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Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Jizzy Jam ()
Date: July 19, 2016 11:11PM

If you care about the future of our county and the quality of life to which we have grown accustomed, vote Yes for the Meal Tax. It's only a couple of cents extra but collectively it will go a long way.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, fag ()
Date: July 19, 2016 11:20PM

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: No way, dude ()
Date: July 19, 2016 11:32PM

Vote HELL NO!!!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: how much more ()
Date: July 20, 2016 06:44AM

Do you really think it will stop here? Fairfax from what I understand has a 4 billion dollar budget. Can this be true? So you have at minimum a 15% tip and a 10% tax. That is 1/4 of the food bill that you are paying above the menu prices. What other business could get away with this? I for one am going to eat out a lot less. And maybe my 20% that I normally leave will drop to 10% as the Restaraunt owners, who make big money as a whole, should start paying their own fucking employees and stop making their customers do it on top of the prices advertised on the menu.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 20, 2016 07:36AM

Simple solution. Just give a 15% tip and pocket 1% for good measure. Make sure that you leave a note on the tab telling the server that the greedy assed teachers could not live with their current salary and needed a raise!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Queen Sharon ()
Date: July 20, 2016 07:56AM

That 20% increase you just paid on your property taxes isn't going to provide enough free luxury housing for my beloved illegals. So STFU and vote YES for ever-more taxes increases! How else will we attract enough of the freeloader vote to keep me in office forever?

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 20, 2016 12:15PM

Once again another anti-tax zealot is helping to insure that the Meals Tax passes.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: tmjwh ()
Date: July 20, 2016 12:26PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Once again another anti-tax zealot is helping to
> insure that the Meals Tax passes.


Once again someone confuses insure and ensure.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: a simple truth ()
Date: July 20, 2016 12:33PM

The meals tax will not generate enough revenue to solve the County's financial problems. All it will do is hurt businesses and deter people from eating out.

Mark your calendars: vote NO on the meals tax on November 8.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Lazy Politicos ()
Date: July 20, 2016 12:43PM

Creating a new tax merely makes it easy for the politicians to not prioritize spending. There's a billion dollar budget for one county. That's plenty of money for what's important. Instead of bleating for more money, the politicos should do their job and prioritize.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Rick sicko ()
Date: July 20, 2016 01:12PM

Are the only available voting options yes or no? Can we vote maybe, or medium or something? What about a write-in campaign?

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Survey says ()
Date: July 21, 2016 05:45PM

Rick sicko Wrote:
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> Are the only available voting options yes or no?
> Can we vote maybe, or medium or something? What
> about a write-in campaign?


Yes

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Mark j ()
Date: July 21, 2016 08:43PM

Vote no..once the county gets you,they won't let go.
I do not care about the county or the shit hole schools...only my enjoyment

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Meelz tax ()
Date: July 21, 2016 09:46PM

Mark j Wrote:
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> Vote no..once the county gets you,they won't let
> go.
> I do not care about the county or the shit hole
> schools...only my enjoyment


FAIL

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: transgender FAIL ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:51AM

The fact of the matter is that the schools don't have the millions of dollars they need to put in the transgender bathrooms and showers. So, they propose the meals tax.

If the meals tax passes, your DAUGHTERS will be showering with boys with erect penises and they same boys will be parading their penises in the girls' bathrooms.

The transgender bathrooms will just sit and gather dust and the odd freak may show up and use them.

If this tax is defeated the transgender plans will die with it due to the antideficiency law. In other words the schools can't spend money they don't have and they would have to make drastic budget reductions to finance the construction of the bathrooms.

without these bathrooms they cannot get the transgender certificate of approval and without that boys cannot use the girls facilities. So plain and simple, just vote against the meals tax. Voting for it will encourage sexual abuse and unjust enrichment of plumbers.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Get a grip... ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:31AM

These LGBT-basher people are among the dumbest on the planet. What a bunch of trash-brained sickos! Go back to your caves, losers!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Tranny-tards! ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:35AM

Get a grip... Wrote:
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> These LGBT-basher people are among the dumbest on
> the planet. What a bunch of trash-brained sickos!
> Go back to your caves, losers!


Tranny-tards!

Lolz!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Pass the tax ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:45AM

a simple truth Wrote:
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> The meals tax will not generate enough revenue to
> solve the County's financial problems.

And if you were 10% smarter, you'd still be really stupid. But a 10% gain would still be a step in the right direction.

> All it will do is hurt businesses and deter people
> from eating out.

That's really stupid alright. The actual facts are that restaurants flourish in nearby jurisdictions that have a meal tax, and people flock on over to go eat there. Your posts is just plain really stupid.

> Mark your calendars: vote NO on the meals tax on November 8.

The County will need to augment revenue somehow in coming years. The question is whether it would be better to dump all that coming burden onto local property owners or instead implement a plan that lets people from outside the County help us out with local costs. Only real stooges manage to get this question wrong.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: let's inject some common sense ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:22PM

Pass the tax Wrote:
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> a simple truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The meals tax will not generate enough revenue
> to
> > solve the County's financial problems.
>
> And if you were 10% smarter, you'd still be really
> stupid. But a 10% gain would still be a step in
> the right direction.

So would cuutting expenses by 30% and reducing property taxes by 10%.

>
> > All it will do is hurt businesses and deter
> people
> > from eating out.
>
> That's really stupid alright. The actual facts
> are that restaurants flourish in nearby
> jurisdictions that have a meal tax, and people
> flock on over to go eat there. Your posts is just
> plain really stupid.

Proof? The neighboring jurisdictions have had these taxes for years, so, without some empirical data, this is apples/oranges.

>
> > Mark your calendars: vote NO on the meals tax on
> November 8.
>
> The County will need to augment revenue somehow in
> coming years. The question is whether it would be
> better to dump all that coming burden onto local
> property owners or instead implement a plan that
> lets people from outside the County help us out
> with local costs. Only real stooges manage to get
> this question wrong.

Yes, stooges support any expenditure, no matter how wasteful or foolish. Prudent people see much that could be cut.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 12:44PM

let's inject some common sense Wrote:
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> Yes, stooges support any expenditure, no matter
> how wasteful or foolish. Prudent people see much
> that could be cut.

You've got no sense at all, asshole. All you do is rant and rail about turf fields and invited speakers. You are no more than an illiterate cretin scumbag. Costs to run the county continue to increase. All you want to do is cut spending. What sort of asshole thinks like that? A REAaLLY BIG asshole, that's what sort. You are degraded dumbshit trash and among the worst of the worst on this board.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 22, 2016 02:43PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> let's inject some common sense Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, stooges support any expenditure, no matter
> > how wasteful or foolish. Prudent people see
> much
> > that could be cut.
>
> You've got no sense at all, asshole. All you do
> is rant and rail about turf fields and invited
> speakers. You are no more than an illiterate
> cretin scumbag. Costs to run the county continue
> to increase. All you want to do is cut spending.
> What sort of asshole thinks like that? A REAaLLY
> BIG asshole, that's what sort. You are degraded
> dumbshit trash and among the worst of the worst on
> this board.

Prior to calling you some really foul and disgusting names like you tend to do I would love to hear your version of what the School Board's intention of taking the time, money and public's effort to put together the budget task force, budget app and asking for the public's input just before totally ignoring it and implementing a budget that was opposed by just about everyone in the County with the exception of 8 Board members, Teachers Union and a brainwashed component of the PTA.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:00PM

Your assessment of the Board, of the budget process, and of support for the budget itself is -- like everything else you have ever posted -- an example of worthless ignorant babble-trash. Go blow it out your ass, dumbfuck.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: kill yourself, tax fag ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:06PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> Your assessment of the Board, of the budget
> process, and of support for the budget itself is
> -- like everything else you have ever posted -- an
> example of worthless ignorant babble-trash. Go
> blow it out your ass, dumbfuck.
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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:44PM

Wow! Picture drawing. Just like back in caveman days. Fucking idiot!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Donkey Dong ()
Date: July 22, 2016 03:48PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> Wow! Picture drawing. Just like back in caveman
> days. Fucking idiot!

Nothing says 'idiot' like the guy that REALLY wants to pay more taxes.

Lol!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Oh please ()
Date: July 22, 2016 04:00PM

How will a new tax save the county? It will merely fuel the spending binge, which will continue, begetting the need for more taxes. What we need to save the county is spending restraint. There's over a billion to spend in this little county, simply prioritize spending and go from there.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Predictable Asshole... ()
Date: July 22, 2016 04:47PM

Donkey Dong Wrote:
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> Fuck off, derp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Wow! Picture drawing. Just like back in
> caveman
> > days. Fucking idiot!
>
> Nothing says 'idiot' like the guy that REALLY
> wants to pay more taxes.
>
> Lol!


Whenever the question of taxes comes up, his answer always will be "More."

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 08:36PM

Donkey Dong Wrote:
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> Nothing says 'idiot' like the guy that REALLY
> wants to pay more taxes.

The wisdom and hence the desirability of paying more or different taxes is dependent upon existing circumstances and conditions. You are apparently just too fucking asshole stupid to understand that. Typical light-weight right-wing dumbfuck!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 08:44PM

Predictable Asshole... Wrote:
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> Whenever the question of taxes comes up, his
> answer always will be "More."

No, you pathetic pre-programmed piece of shit. It will be "More", "Less", or "Leave them where they are" -- the choice being based on the sort of rational analysis and assessment of the situation that fucktarded shit-for-brains derps like you cannot even begin to fathom.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Dgfsgchcjfjh ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:23PM

The county does not need to augment revenue, they need to stop pissing money away on illegals! Drive them out and save $$$.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: FIFAsshole ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:32PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> Predictable Asshole... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whenever the question of taxes comes up, his
> > answer always will be "More."
>
> I'm a pathetic pre-programmed piece of shit. It always
> will be "More"


^ FIFAsshole...

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 10:53PM

Dgfsgchcjfjh Wrote:
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> The county does not need to augment revenue, they
> need to stop pissing money away on illegals!
> Drive them out and save $$$.

An inconvenient truth -- the Constitution provides rights to all persons living under US jurisdiction. Yes, even worthless dipshit assholes like you.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: bF9VY ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:00PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> Dgfsgchcjfjh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The county does not need to augment revenue,
> they
> > need to stop pissing money away on illegals!
> > Drive them out and save $$$.
>
> An inconvenient truth -- the Constitution provides
> rights to all persons living under US
> jurisdiction. Yes, even worthless dipshit
> assholes like you.


What it says is "...nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction equal protection under the law."

Legal protection =/= benefits, education, free lunches, the right to be here, etc.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Dgdgdg ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:02PM

F U you libtard assholes. The Constitution is silent on me having to pay for illegal. BTW, what part of ILLEGAL do you dumb asses struggle with?

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:10PM

bF9VY Wrote:
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> What it says is "...nor deny to any person within
> its jurisdiction equal protection under the law."

LOL! Plainly enough, you have no fucking clue as to what that actually means, Go read some court cases on the matter, asshole.

> Legal protection =/= benefits, education, free
> lunches, the right to be here, etc.

LOL! Rights under the Constitution are equal for all. You don't get to pick and choose who enjoys them. How fucking stupid are you anyway?

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:13PM

Dgdgdg Wrote:
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> F U you libtard assholes. The Constitution is
> silent on me having to pay for illegal. BTW, what
> part of ILLEGAL do you dumb asses struggle with?

Jerk. It is NOT silent on the power of the government to make and enforce laws requiring you to pay taxes that will be used for programs that aid everyone. Your whole theory of life in America is just one great big fuck-up.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Dgdgdg ()
Date: July 22, 2016 11:17PM

Please, allow me to correct my grammar.

With what part of ILLEGAL do you dumb asses struggle?

Thank you.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Anti City Zealot Bill N ()
Date: July 23, 2016 12:06AM

>Once again another anti-tax zealot is helping to insure that the Meals Tax passes.

So tell us again Anti City Zealot Bill why you hate the idea of a City of Fairfax County, that can tax meals, hotel rooms, other things, will get the VDOT money from Richmond to fix roads they wont and have a Mayor who's elected.. Someone in Charge instead of No One In charge with the Current Lame BOS form of Govt. better suited for a county of 50 thousand. Some one who can fire a errant police Chief or other Co official that's Out Of line.. Tell us Bill. Why you enjoy sending money from FXCO to Richmond to Spend..Afraid the Dems will not do so well as A City Council or Mayor..?? What was that about Zealots Bill??

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Ryan mcelvelveeta ()
Date: July 23, 2016 12:16AM

Yummy yummy meals... My meal is your tax dollars I gobble up like a pig to build my tranny funhouse.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Jewboi ()
Date: July 23, 2016 12:27AM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> Predictable Asshole... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Whenever the question of taxes comes up, his
> > answer always will be "More."
>
> No, you pathetic pre-programmed piece of shit. It
> will be "More", "Less", or "Leave them where they
> are" -- the choice being based on the sort of
> rational analysis and assessment of the situation
> that fucktarded shit-for-brains derps like you
> cannot even begin to fathom.
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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: yFuNw ()
Date: July 23, 2016 01:15AM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> bF9VY Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What it says is "...nor deny to any person
> within
> > its jurisdiction equal protection under the
> law."
>
> LOL! Plainly enough, you have no fucking clue as
> to what that actually means, Go read some court
> cases on the matter, asshole.

I have and I do. Obviously better than you do since you're completely misrepresenting what it says.


> > Legal protection =/= benefits, education, free
> > lunches, the right to be here, etc.
>
> LOL! Rights under the Constitution are equal for
> all. You don't get to pick and choose who enjoys
> them. How fucking stupid are you anyway?


Wrong. Equal protection under the law, not equal rights to those of citizens. As a simple, obvious example of your own stupidity, illegals can't legally vote. You fail.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: July 23, 2016 01:26AM

The smart ass answer ATZ is that if I wanted to live in a City I would already live in either Alexandria or Fairfax. You act like incorporating the County is some brilliant new solution when it is actually something that has been under discussions since at least the 1970s, and possibly the 1960s.

As things stand now Fairfax County has the authority to enact a meals tax. It just has to do so by public referendum rather than by a vote of the governing board. The reason you don't like this is because it allows the issue to be decided by a group that might not vote the way you want. I believe Fairfax County already has the authority to impose a hotel tax under Virginia Code §58.1-3819.

If Fairfax were to incorporate it would be required to take over maintenance of roads in the County. Are you that convinced that Fairfax County's system would be more efficient than Virginia's? Also do you really think that Virginia is going to dramatically up the amount of money going to Fairfax if it were to incorporate? Our income taxes will still go to Richmond whether we are a city or not.

I haven't been losing sleep over the need to revamp our form of governance, so I am not sure why you think I am anti- or pro-city. Let me ask you a couple of questions. First you disparage the existing form as suitable for a county of 50,000. Do you understand the current system with a professional County Executive was designed for larger political entities. Also why would you trust the electorate to vote for a mayor who would possess greater power over day to day government operations when you don't trust that same electorate to vote on a meals tax? And do you really think a County that voted Democratic is suddenly going to go Republican if it were to incorporate? When was the last Republican mayor of Alexandria?

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Posted by: bean counter ()
Date: July 23, 2016 07:44AM

I work for the county. We are going to get the money one way or the other, that is a fact. At least with the meals tax non-county residents will pay nearly half of it. If you ignorant citizens vote it down we will get the money another way and you guys can pay all of it. So remember to vote yes on the meals tax to save yourselves a shit-load of money!

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 23, 2016 02:42PM

yFuNw Wrote:
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> I have and I do.

That's a lie.

> Obviously better than you do since you're completely
> misrepresenting what it says.

You don't and apparently can't read. Constitutional rights adhere to all who are under US jurisdiction. Stupid-ass fucktards cannot decide to separate out subgroups that they don't like and then force them out of some local county or other.

> Wrong. Equal protection under the law, not equal
> rights to those of citizens. As a simple, obvious
> example of your own stupidity, illegals can't
> legally vote. You fail.

You're an asshole. Illegals in fact can and do vote in elections where the franchise has been extended to them. See Takoma Park, MD, for the past 20 years or so. Meanwhile, voting itself is not a right established under the Constitution. You cannot however be denied an otherwise existing right to vote becuase of discrimination, which is the whole point at issue here. You may need to read quite a bit more than what you have so far.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: PeY3G ()
Date: July 23, 2016 02:53PM

bean counter Wrote:
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> I work for the county. We are going to get the
> money one way or the other, that is a fact. At
> least with the meals tax non-county residents will
> pay nearly half of it. If you ignorant citizens
> vote it down we will get the money another way and
> you guys can pay all of it. So remember to vote
> yes on the meals tax to save yourselves a
> shit-load of money!

It's more the case that the County will continue to procure and provide needed services to and for those residing here, then figuring out how to fund the costs of those services. The meals tax essentially pours more water into the pool, thereby making it easier to make withdrawals that do not ALL have to be piled on top of County property owners. It's amazing to me that all these right-wing types are essentially arguing to DENY themselves a tax break.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: L4NDy ()
Date: July 23, 2016 03:20PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> yFuNw Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have and I do.
>
> That's a lie.
>
> > Obviously better than you do since you're
> completely
> > misrepresenting what it says.
>
> You don't and apparently can't read.
> Constitutional rights adhere to all who are under
> US jurisdiction. Stupid-ass fucktards cannot
> decide to separate out subgroups that they don't
> like and then force them out of some local county
> or other.

That's exactly wrong. If you'd actually read Plyer v Doe instead of just talking out of your Asshole..., then you'd understand that the Court specifically said that there are clear distinctions between "rights" and equal application of the law. More specifically, they noted that education and similar benefits granted to citizens are not rights and need not be extended to illegals. Equal rights for illegals was not the basis for the decision. It was the manner in which the proposed restrictions were structured. In fact, the Court directly described a number of alternative approaches which could be taken legislatively to make limiting access to such things perfectly fine under the law.

>
> > Wrong. Equal protection under the law, not
> equal
> > rights to those of citizens. As a simple,
> obvious
> > example of your own stupidity, illegals can't
> > legally vote. You fail.
>
> You're an asshole. Illegals in fact can and do
> vote in elections where the franchise has been
> extended to them. See Takoma Park, MD, for the
> past 20 years or so. Meanwhile, voting itself is
> not a right established under the Constitution.
> You cannot however be denied an otherwise existing
> right to vote becuase of discrimination, which is
> the whole point at issue here. You may need to
> read quite a bit more than what you have so far.

And you're wrong again. More permissible *local* election rules in one specific *local* jurisdiction (and basically the only one and which has not been seriously challenged) are not equivalent. Voting rights are as or more established as is the 14th on which you rely on above. Limiting benefits of citizenship on the basis of someone not being a citizen is not discrimination. It is by definition.

You may need to stop talking out of your Asshole... and you wouldn't be shown to be wrong so often.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: yank and rank ()
Date: July 23, 2016 04:08PM

It worked for General Electric.

Every year, the bottom performing 10% of employees are let go. Do this until it becomes a problem. FCPS could go for many years before it would be a problem and a lot of money would be saved. Plus, the workers would have an incentive not to waste money and spend so much time at Uno.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:21PM

yank and rank Wrote:
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> It worked for General Electric.
>
> Every year, the bottom performing 10% of employees
> are let go. Do this until it becomes a problem.
> FCPS could go for many years before it would be a
> problem and a lot of money would be saved. Plus,
> the workers would have an incentive not to waste
> money and spend so much time at Uno.


Very close to being precisely correct. The 80/20 rule applies to government work and in Fairfax county that certainly applies. Eighty percent of the work is done by 20 percent of the employees.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 23, 2016 05:34PM

bean counter Wrote:
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> I work for the county. We are going to get the
> money one way or the other, that is a fact. At
> least with the meals tax non-county residents will
> pay nearly half of it. If you ignorant citizens
> vote it down we will get the money another way and
> you guys can pay all of it. So remember to vote
> yes on the meals tax to save yourselves a
> shit-load of money!


The Board of Supervisors are a bunch of spend thrifts, however, they know that there are limits to their ability to raise property taxes. Their spend thrift ways is making it difficult for retired residents to stay in the county and Loudoun County is becoming extremely inviting to many Fairfax residents for many reasons. The meal tax will not produce enough revenue to solve a single problem. Just like giving an alcoholic that first drink the meal tax revenue will only encourage a Board that is addicted to spending.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Fuck off, derp ()
Date: July 24, 2016 01:09PM

L4NDy Wrote:
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> That's exactly wrong. If you'd actually read Plyer v Doe instead of
> just talking out of your Asshole..., then you'd understand that the
> Court specifically said that there are clear distinctions between
> "rights" and equal application of the law.

Yo, dumbass. What the Rutherford Institute apparently failed to explain to your sorry ass is that the liberal majority in Plyer specifically forbade attempts to encumber of eliminate educational rights in the very sort of manner that worthless dipshits here propose to use in their ugly efforts to rid Fairfax County of Hispanics. The law of the land does not permit this at all. All persons in the County have rights under the Constitution that must be respected equally. Your dumbfuck, off-road analyses do not change these essential facts in any way at all.

> And you're wrong again. More permissible *local* election rules in one
> specific *local* jurisdiction (and basically the only one and which has
> not been seriously challenged) are not equivalent.

Well, they 100% falsify your earlier douchebag contentions. There's always that fact for your derpness to go suck on. Since 1996, federal law has prohibited non-citizens from voting in federal elections. No state has permitted it since 1926, but more localities that just Takoma Park do permit it, and the tiny burg of New York City has lately been considering it also. The points here are that contrary to your pathetic babble, it is local laws that apply here, along with the plain fact that all residents have a stake in government. Why -- aside from simple and outrageous bigotry -- would anyone want to deny non-citizens a voice in selecting that government?

> You may need to stop talking out of your Asshole...
> and you wouldn't be shown to be wrong so often.

You're on a run of really bad luck here, shit-for-brains. None of your claims has held any water at all. You're spouting nothing but discredited right-wing rot.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Hello??? ()
Date: July 24, 2016 01:21PM

yank and rank Wrote:
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> It worked for General Electric. Every year, the bottom performing
> 10% of employees are let go. Do this until it becomes a problem.
> FCPS could go for many years before it would be a problem and a lot
> of money would be saved. Plus, the workers would have an incentive
> not to waste money and spend so much time at Uno.

Employee turnover is very expensive. We would like to reduce the problem, not expand it.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: dpdHU ()
Date: July 24, 2016 01:44PM

Inquisitive One Wrote:
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> The Board of Supervisors are a bunch of spend
> thrifts, however, they know that there are limits
> to their ability to raise property taxes. Their
> spend thrift ways is making it difficult for
> retired residents to stay in the county and
> Loudoun County is becoming extremely inviting to
> many Fairfax residents for many reasons.

You mean difficult for low-brow retirees who did not manage to save amounts adequate to fund retirement in this area. Meanwhile, Fairfax County along with NoVa in general is increasingly becoming a relocation target for retirees who did manage to set aside enough to afford the many pleasures of a non-boondocks lifestyle.

> The meal tax will not produce enough revenue to solve a single problem.

What a laughable bunch of bunk! The tax will provide between $90 and $100 million in revenue to the County each year. That's enough to solve many little problems, or to contribute to the solution of some larger ones. Coincidentally, it is enough to allow the Board of Supervisors to enact moderate rather than extreme increases in property tax rates going forward.

> Just like giving an alcoholic that first drink the meal tax revenue
> will only encourage a Board that is addicted to spending.

Spending is the freaking JOB of government, moron. It provides public goods and services that the private sector is unwilling, unable, and unfit to provide. Decisions on what goods and services should be provided will not be affected by a meals tax. All that will happen is that an additional avenue through which to obtain funding will be opened, thus relieving some of the the pressure that has built up on LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS. If you are one of those -- or if you rent rooms from one of them -- you should be all in favor of the meals tax proposal. Then again, many people are just hopelessly dumb.

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: pTe7d ()
Date: July 24, 2016 03:04PM

Fuck off, derp Wrote:
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> L4NDy Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's exactly wrong. If you'd actually read
> Plyer v Doe instead of
> > just talking out of your Asshole..., then you'd
> understand that the
> > Court specifically said that there are clear
> distinctions between
> > "rights" and equal application of the law.
>
> Yo, dumbass. What the Rutherford Institute
> apparently failed to explain to your sorry ass is
> that the liberal majority in Plyer specifically
> forbade attempts to encumber of eliminate
> educational rights in the very sort of manner that
> worthless dipshits here propose to use in their
> ugly efforts to rid Fairfax County of Hispanics.
> The law of the land does not permit this at all.
> All persons in the County have rights under the
> Constitution that must be respected equally. Your
> dumbfuck, off-road analyses do not change these
> essential facts in any way at all.

In other words, no, you haven't actually read the decision. If you had rather than just pulling shit out of your Asshole... then you might understand that the Court specifically said that:

Quote

"Public education is not a "right" granted to individuals by the Constitution. San Antonio Independent School Dist. v. Rodriguez, 411 U.S. 1, 35 (1973)."

It was not a case of fundamental equal rights for illegals nor an extension of the 14th to provide for illegals to receive all benefits provided to citizens as you'd wrongly like to believe. The Court specifically said not:

Quote

Nor is education a fundamental right; a State need not justify by compelling necessity every variation in the manner in which education is provided to its population. But more is involved in these cases than the abstract question whether § 21.031 discriminates against a suspect class, or whether education is a fundamental right...

You also might further understand that it did NOT forbid denying any such benefits. What it found was that the state had not presented a compelling case to do so in this case. That does not preclude other cases where it may.

Quote

"If the State is to deny a discrete group of innocent children the free public education that it offers to other children residing within its borders, that denial must be justified by a showing that it furthers some substantial state interest. No such showing was made here. Accordingly, the judgment of the Court of Appeals in each of these cases is Affirmed."

You can try your usual "read between the lines" nonsense that you always do when your ass-speak bullshit gets shot down now. lol


>
> > And you're wrong again. More permissible
> *local* election rules in one
> > specific *local* jurisdiction (and basically the
> only one and which has
> > not been seriously challenged) are not
> equivalent.
>
> Well, they 100% falsify your earlier douchebag
> contentions. There's always that fact for your
> derpness to go suck on. Since 1996, federal law
> has prohibited non-citizens from voting in federal
> elections. No state has permitted it since 1926,
> but more localities that just Takoma Park do
> permit it, and the tiny burg of New York City has
> lately been considering it also. The points here
> are that contrary to your pathetic babble, it is
> local laws that apply here, along with the plain
> fact that all residents have a stake in
> government. Why -- aside from simple and
> outrageous bigotry -- would anyone want to deny
> non-citizens a voice in selecting that government?


So in other words you're wrong again. You didn't really think that you could slide "considering" by did you? #Fail

Because residents aren't citizens.


>
>
> > You may need to stop talking out of your
> Asshole...
> > and you wouldn't be shown to be wrong so often.
>
> You're on a run of really bad luck here,
> shit-for-brains. None of your claims has held any
> water at all. You're spouting nothing but
> discredited right-wing rot.


Bitch+slap+bitch+slap_dafdc3_5132311.gif

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Re: Meal Tax - Vote Yes! Save our County!
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: July 25, 2016 04:25AM

dpdHU Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Inquisitive One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Board of Supervisors are a bunch of spend
> > thrifts, however, they know that there are
> limits
> > to their ability to raise property taxes.
> Their
> > spend thrift ways is making it difficult for
> > retired residents to stay in the county and
> > Loudoun County is becoming extremely inviting
> to
> > many Fairfax residents for many reasons.
>
> You mean difficult for low-brow retirees who did
> not manage to save amounts adequate to fund
> retirement in this area. Meanwhile, Fairfax
> County along with NoVa in general is increasingly
> becoming a relocation target for retirees who did
> manage to set aside enough to afford the many
> pleasures of a non-boondocks lifestyle.
>
> > The meal tax will not produce enough revenue to
> solve a single problem.
>
> What a laughable bunch of bunk! The tax will
> provide between $90 and $100 million in revenue to
> the County each year. That's enough to solve many
> little problems, or to contribute to the solution
> of some larger ones. Coincidentally, it is enough
> to allow the Board of Supervisors to enact
> moderate rather than extreme increases in property
> tax rates going forward.
>
> > Just like giving an alcoholic that first drink
> the meal tax revenue
> > will only encourage a Board that is addicted to
> spending.
>
> Spending is the freaking JOB of government, moron.
> It provides public goods and services that the
> private sector is unwilling, unable, and unfit to
> provide. Decisions on what goods and services
> should be provided will not be affected by a meals
> tax. All that will happen is that an additional
> avenue through which to obtain funding will be
> opened, thus relieving some of the the pressure
> that has built up on LOCAL PROPERTY OWNERS. If
> you are one of those -- or if you rent rooms from
> one of them -- you should be all in favor of the
> meals tax proposal. Then again, many people are
> just hopelessly dumb.


Stop embarrassing yourself with opinions that are totally unsupported by facts. First, will the meal tax solve any problems. HERE ARE THE FACTS.

The 2017 school board budget request was for an increase of $125 million with a dream budget that would fulfill all of Garza's "perceived" needs to be $305 million. The approved school budget gave the FCPS an increase of $104 million but that included an increase of state funds which may be one time funding. The actual increase in the General Fund transfer was $88.4 million leaving a $36.6 million funds residual 2017 "needs" that you can be assured that Garza will request in the 2018 budget. On the meals tax revenue side, the schools will receive 2/3 of the proceeds from the referendum or somewhere in the area of $66 million resulting in about $29 million remaining to satisfy the never ending quest for funds from the school board. Bottom line is that based on the anticipated Garza transfer request of at least an additional $100 million based upon historical trends and you will have the School Board starting their budget request somewhere in the area of $70 million in the hole even if they receive funds from the meals tax.

On the General Funds side the Board of Supervisors currently have identified about $14 million in new spending to cover fire, police, mental health and early diversion spending. This will result in about $15 remaining from the proceeds of the meals tax and does not include a single penny for inflation during the year.

Issue 2

If you honestly believe that there will be a single penny of tax relief you should check yourself into the nearest mental health facility because you are delusional. Just look at the above calculations. As I indicated in the original post the meals tax will not solve the County's fiscal problems when you have a School Board with an insatiable appetite for funds and the BOS has had their spending urges curtailed because of the bad economy. See above for supporting FACTS.

Issue 3

If you have followed local issues at all one of the problems that Fairfax County has is that the only new residents has gotten since the beginning of the sequester period do not speak English, have emotional and other special educational needs and for the most part pay little local taxes. It creates dramatic funding problems when the balance sheet is hit with less revenue and dramatic increases in expenses.

Issue 4

First, we elect our local officials to MANAGE our tax revenues, not to indiscriminately SPEND those funds for whatever whimsical social experiment or perceived personal need of the Members. The School Board has a 10 year history of wasteful spending (I could personally care less about their follies at retreats and international conventions because it is minimal spending), however, their management skills are dreadful and their collective judgment is even worse. The School Board has proven that it is not a responsible agent of the community and should not be trusted with anything more than a child's allowance and the Board of Supervisors is only marginally better than the FCPS.

While I'm sure there will be some inaccuracies due to the duplication of expenses from some of the documents that the information was extracted, the summary does give a fairly good idea of how the meals tax fits in the Fairfax County fiscal picture.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/25/2016 04:30AM by Inquisitive One.

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