WTF is up with this? I was at the checkout this evening and a guy in front of me had a dog with him. Then this couple walks down the plumbing aisle towards the checkout with TWO DOGS and all of the dogs started barking at each other. Did I miss something? Was it take-your-dog-to-home-depot-day?

Entitled asshole millenials, nothing surprising.

It was Pups-in-the Park Day at the Nats on Saturday. Dogs sit with their owners at many restaurants in Europe. Maybe you should re-examine the basis of some of your fears and expectations.

Big Deal -- I agree with M67HU, and I am a HUGE dog-lover. Not everyone loves dogs, some people have had a dog bite them, attack them, etc.

I never take my dog to PetsMart -- I know my dog, I don't know yours or how you control it. They're dogs and anything could happen.

Nats Park probably advertises Dog Day and non dog lovers can stay away, not so much with people trying to fix up their homes and encountering pets. That being said these places are probably one incident from a huge lawsuit and banning this practice.


Also, Europeans are entitled shits...

Big deal Wrote:
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> It was Pups-in-the Park Day at the Nats on
> Saturday. Dogs sit with their owners at many
> restaurants in Europe. Maybe you should
> re-examine the basis of some of your fears and
> expectations.

^
Another American leftist who likes to act European because it makes you think you're better. You're wrong. We laugh at you too.


And you're wrong about the dogs.

I have seen this before at Home Depot.

I can top this. I had somebody bring their dog into a hospital (and Emergency Room) where I worked. No, they were NOT a service animal. They could not understand why they could not do this. "It is too hot to leave them in the car. What do you expect me to do?" "Leave."

Not our problem. I guess we could have called Animal Control since they obviously did not know how to care for an animal.

They left. With the dog. Presumably to take them home, where they belonged.

Now we will start finding dog poop and pee in the aisles at Home Depot.

Most Home Depot's allow dogs in. I take mine all the time, but I also know how to control him. While my dog is friendly and would never bite anyone, I cannot stand when someone just walks up and starts petting them.

Always ask and take it slow. My dog is trained and certified to go into hospitals and is used as a therapy dog, but most ar not.

Service dogs are allowed in hospitals.

Pets are not.

It depends. Pets are allowed in the hospital when doctors believe the visit will help boost a patient's mental state. They are usually brought in caged and then united with the patient-owner in an office or meeting space. It can be a very positive thing.

A.European Wrote:
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> Another American leftist who likes to act European
> because it makes you think you're better. You're
> wrong. We laugh at you too.

I'm a German who laughs at stupid American Euro-wannabes. It's like you are all straight out of the swamps and bayous.

> And you're wrong about the dogs.

You've plainly never even been to Europe.

Big deal Wrote:
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> It was Pups-in-the Park Day at the Nats on
> Saturday. Dogs sit with their owners at many
> restaurants in Europe. Maybe you should
> re-examine the basis of some of your fears and
> expectations.

They do that about once a month throughout the season. It's been going on for some years now and seems to be very popular with both dogs and owners.

Jayman Wrote:
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> Most Home Depot's allow dogs in. I take mine all
> the time, but I also know how to control him.
> While my dog is friendly and would never bite
> anyone,

I can't tell you how many times I hear people say this. And yet both times I was bitten by a dog it was by a "friendly" dog that would "never bite."

The store is such a messed up dump, it doesnt matter. It reminds me of a roadside flea market

As a mom who has small children terrified of dogs, it pisses me off. It's Home Depot, I shouldn't have to be concerned about this issue before going into the store.

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> The store is such a messed up dump, it doesnt
> matter. It reminds me of a roadside flea market

Very true. I wouldnt be surprised to see a heard of fucking cows in there.

Big deal Wrote:
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>
> I'm a German who laughs at stupid American
> Euro-wannabes. It's like you are all straight out
> of the swamps and bayous.
>
> > And you're wrong about the dogs.
>
> You've plainly never even been to Europe.

Half my family is German, living in Germany. They have dogs. They never take them to the restaurant/grocery store/subway....

They take them hunting and to the lake and to the park....you know, places where dogs belong.

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> Big deal Wrote:
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> >
> > I'm a German who laughs at stupid American
> > Euro-wannabes. It's like you are all straight
> out
> > of the swamps and bayous.
> >
> > > And you're wrong about the dogs.
> >
> > You've plainly never even been to Europe.
>
> Half my family is German, living in Germany. They
> have dogs. They never take them to the
> restaurant/grocery store/subway....
>
> They take them hunting and to the lake and to the
> park....you know, places where dogs belong.

I lived in Germany for a while with the Army and not once can I remember seeing a dog inside a business.

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> > Big deal Wrote:
> >
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> > -----
> > >
> > > I'm a German who laughs at stupid American
> > > Euro-wannabes. It's like you are all
> straight
> > out
> > > of the swamps and bayous.
> > >
> > > > And you're wrong about the dogs.
> > >
> > > You've plainly never even been to Europe.
> >
> > Half my family is German, living in Germany.
> They
> > have dogs. They never take them to the
> > restaurant/grocery store/subway....
> >
> > They take them hunting and to the lake and to
> the
> > park....you know, places where dogs belong.
>
> I lived in Germany for a while with the Army and
> not once can I remember seeing a dog inside a
> business.



Deactivated in 71.


You're old.

I have noticed a trend of some dog owners becoming so obsessed with their dogs that they feel the need to"include" their dog as an equal member of the family in everything. Thus Rover needs to come along to pick out new cabinet knobs or a screen door. There is really no good reason to bring your dog to home depot.

I would rather have a encounter with a controlled, properly tethered dog.

Instead of on those un-restrained, out of control, vicious monsters that these modern parents have spawned.

Mama Wrote:
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> As a mom who has small children terrified of dogs,
> it pisses me off. It's Home Depot, I shouldn't
> have to be concerned about this issue before going
> into the store.


I totally agree.

There is no reason for a (non-service) dog to be in Home Depot or any other store. Except for maybe a pet store, but they have to have special materials to clean up the accidents that happen all over the store.

Gross.

A lot of people are scared of dogs. And they have every right to be. Many people have been bitten and mauled by the family pet or somebody else's dog. People get totally engrossed in shopping and the dog is lunging at other shoppers.

Keep them home.

http://wtop.com/national/2016/04/pet-dog-fatally-mauls-3-day-old-baby-in-san-diego/

Just stay out of Home Depot and you will be happier in many ways.

Dogs are not the issue Wrote:
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> I would rather have a encounter with a controlled,
> properly tethered dog.
>
> Instead of on those un-restrained, out of control,
> vicious monsters that these modern parents have
> spawned.


Yeah, I'll take dogs over two-legged kid animals any day.

Lowes Shopper Wrote:
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> Just stay out of Home Depot and you will be
> happier in many ways.


I agree. HD is closer to me so I go there every now and then but Lowes is by far the better retailer and I drive out of my way to shop there.

Home depot is better if you're a real DIYer, if you're just a SAHM shopping for appliances and light bulbs Lowes is probably better.

The new Lowes is awful. The one in Chantilly is pretty good.

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> > >
> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > I'm a German who laughs at stupid American
> > > > Euro-wannabes. It's like you are all
> > straight
> > > out
> > > > of the swamps and bayous.
> > > >
> > > > > And you're wrong about the dogs.
> > > >
> > > > You've plainly never even been to Europe.
> > >
> > > Half my family is German, living in Germany.
> > They
> > > have dogs. They never take them to the
> > > restaurant/grocery store/subway....
> > >
> > > They take them hunting and to the lake and to
> > the
> > > park....you know, places where dogs belong.
> >
> > I lived in Germany for a while with the Army
> and
> > not once can I remember seeing a dog inside a
> > business.
>
>
>
> Deactivated in 71.
>
>
> You're old.

I resemble that statement.

Love dogs. Like dog people in general. But I do not understand this business of taking the family pet into Home Depot. Why?

The last few times I went to Tysons Galleria I've seen people with dogs there. I've also seen them in MOM's Organic Market in Herndon - a woman walking her dog in the store once and I believe the same woman with the dog in the shopping cart! I couldn't believe it. Jeez, if you can't leave your treasured little idol at home for a couple of hours maybe you should just stay in the house and get everything delivered so you can stay right with poochie and worship it.

true enough Wrote:
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> Love dogs. Like dog people in general. But I do
> not understand this business of taking the family
> pet into Home Depot. Why?


Because there lots of hungry Koreans lurking in the parking lot since the Lotte closed.

Only a total fucking loser would bring their dog shopping with them. Get a grip.

So what? Canines are part of the family, too. If birds can live in the home depots, surely members of the family are welcome to visit too!

https://www.google.com/search?q=www&oq=www&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i65l2.1291j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=german+shephard+eating+at+table

Just the same morons who take their dogs to restaurants and their kids into bars.


Socially aware, progressive, special little snowflakes.

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> Just the same morons who take their dogs to
> restaurants and their kids into bars.
>
>
> Socially aware, progressive, special little
> snowflakes.

Kids should never be brought in to a restaurant, anyone that does this is mentally stunted. Have you ever heard of take out?! Do you think everyone else wants to hear a crying baby or a whiny kid?! NO! Do the world a favor and take your "experience" home!

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> > Just the same morons who take their dogs to
> > restaurants and their kids into bars.
> >
> >
> > Socially aware, progressive, special little
> > snowflakes.
>
> Kids should never be brought in to a restaurant,
> anyone that does this is mentally stunted. Have
> you ever heard of take out?! Do you think everyone
> else wants to hear a crying baby or a whiny kid?!
> NO! Do the world a favor and take your
> "experience" home!

I've seen this from DC to Old Town. Parents bringing kids into bars. Some, young enough to be strapped to daddy's cuckold chest while he sips a local sourced, progressive microbrew, and mommy is talking about how backwards Southerners are with her entitled friends.

Those dogs in HD are cleaner than many of the cab driving ragheads in there.

My 7lb dog loves shopping centers. He is beautiful and people love looking at him more than the human babies. I just got him a stroller. Don't have kids, having not contributed to over-population, I feel entitled to treat my dog like somebody else would treat a baby. Shut up about it or I will get pregnant, refuse to work and go on welfare.

Those are Mexicans and the can be useful when they are not drunk and raping women.

If it's on a leash, not bothering you and the store managers clearly don't mind, what do you care? I take my German shepherd to home depot most of the times I go. Not for any particular reason, why the hell not? Whine and bitch and about "My liberty done been infringed" and then bitch when people do what they want. Fuck off

I take my lab to HD, everyone loves her except dirty muslims who are afraid of my sweet girl. OP you must be a filthy camel fucker.

That's why I only go to Lowes. They allow cougars but no dogs. I love watching them prowl the garden center.

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> http://wtop.com/national/2016/04/pet-dog-fatally-m
> auls-3-day-old-baby-in-san-diego/


That’s sad. When people think their dogs are people too, things like this happen - the dog behaves like an animal. Don’t be stupid people.

Home Depot and Lowes are both dog friendly stores. Imagine that simple answer. All the opinions and debates from most of the rejects above are absolutely irrelevant. The store allows dogs. End of story basement dwellers.

Where are you from? The fact that Home Depot permits dogs in its stores was not in question. It was understood. And, it doesn’t change anything! Ha! Ha! Drink your coffee.

Now that I know it pisses people off my dog will be with me on every trip to HD.

6NJEv Wrote:
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> Half my family is German, living in Germany. They have dogs.
> They never take them to the restaurant/grocery store/subway....
>
> They take them hunting and to the lake and to the
> park....you know, places where dogs belong.

It's not a law, dummy. The simple fact is that German dogs are frequent sights in German restaurants, and none of the German people think a thing of it. It's normal. Whole different attitude there that you have plainly never managed to pick up on.

+1000 Wrote:
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> Dogs are not the issue Wrote:
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> > I would rather have a encounter with a
> controlled,
> > properly tethered dog.
> >
> > Instead of on those un-restrained, out of
> control,
> > vicious monsters that these modern parents have
> > spawned.
>
>
> Yeah, I'll take dogs over two-legged kid animals
> any day.


+1,000!

Big deal Wrote:
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> > Half my family is German, living in Germany.
> They have dogs.
> > They never take them to the restaurant/grocery
> store/subway....
> >
> > They take them hunting and to the lake and to
> the
> > park....you know, places where dogs belong.
>
> It's not a law, dummy. The simple fact is that
> German dogs are frequent sights in German
> restaurants, and none of the German people think a
> thing of it. It's normal. Whole different
> attitude there that you have plainly never managed
> to pick up on.


You could say the same about killing Jews...

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> > 6NJEv Wrote:
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> > > Half my family is German, living in Germany.
> > They have dogs.
> > > They never take them to the
> restaurant/grocery
> > store/subway....
> > >
> > > They take them hunting and to the lake and to
> > the
> > > park....you know, places where dogs belong.
> >
> > It's not a law, dummy. The simple fact is that
> > German dogs are frequent sights in German
> > restaurants, and none of the German people think
> a
> > thing of it. It's normal. Whole different
> > attitude there that you have plainly never
> managed
> > to pick up on.
>
>
> You could say the same about killing Jews...


Only, there's more factual proof that we can take our dogs into restaurants in Germany than the supposed systematic killing of jews.

Ignorant

Isn't this a health issue?

Fairfax Home Depot actually has a sign that states no pets are allowed in the store. Some managers don't care and probably don't want to piss off paying customers, but it is at their discretion whether dogs are allowed.

I have seen people with dogs at both Home Depot and Lowe's being told that their dog cannot be in the store.

White people treat dogs like people. They go to doggie daycare, attend school, have appointments at groomers, and eat overpriced food. It's great to be a dog in FFXCO.

The reston Home depot is no better.

Was picking up a dozen 1x6x8's 1x4's and 4x4's for some fence work. all the shit on a a lumber cart

self entitle whore with a freeking big ass St Bernard on one of the retractiable leashes.

get mad at me when Her dog ends up on one side of the aisle while she's on the other with the leash streched across and the lumber cart tangles with the leash.

Honey the pooch doesn't care about you picking out some t-11 siding for little johnny's playhouse built by day laborers.

leave the fucking pets at home while you run your errands.

yes The same thin hold true for kids under 10 as well. Since kids under ten are just about as well behaved as most pets.

I don't want to hear you telling suzie that she cannot have gum and she goes into all out tantrum that you won't control.

I'm allergic to dogs. Bring your mutt into HD and I will sue the fuck out of you amd HD.

Woof Wrote:
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> Fairfax Home Depot actually has a sign that states
> no pets are allowed in the store. Some managers
> don't care and probably don't want to piss off
> paying customers, but it is at their discretion
> whether dogs are allowed.
>
> I have seen people with dogs at both Home Depot
> and Lowe's being told that their dog cannot be in
> the store.


Good, they should feel ashamed.

Health Issue Wrote:
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> Isn't this a health issue?

Good point. They do serve food at Home Depot - the checkout has lots of candy and drinks. I don't want some dog slobbering all over that.

Actually I do not believe the Fairfax Home Depot allows pet dogs in the store. Some Home Depots do, but it is usually up to the manager. The Leesburg HD does allow them, so I brought my dog with me to the Fairfax one, but if you look outside at the entrance door, the sign says no pets allowed. So back on the car my dog went and I cut my shopping time short.

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> Actually I do not believe the Fairfax Home Depot
> allows pet dogs in the store. Some Home Depots do,
> but it is usually up to the manager. The Leesburg
> HD does allow them, so I brought my dog with me to
> the Fairfax one, but if you look outside at the
> entrance door, the sign says no pets allowed. So
> back on the car my dog went and I cut my shopping
> time short.


You can read and also believe that rules apply to you. A lot of folks don't think that rules apply to them (and also can't read.

Perhaps HD thinks it is safeguarding itself by posting this sign and not enforcing the rules, and thereby, avoiding a potential lawsuit if there is a problem with the dogs. Its not.

Big deal Wrote:
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> > Half my family is German, living in Germany.
> They have dogs.
> > They never take them to the restaurant/grocery
> store/subway....
> >
> > They take them hunting and to the lake and to
> the
> > park....you know, places where dogs belong.
>
> It's not a law, dummy. The simple fact is that
> German dogs are frequent sights in German
> restaurants, and none of the German people think a
> thing of it. It's normal. Whole different
> attitude there that you have plainly never managed
> to pick up on.

Huh, I don't see where I said it was a law? Can you point out that part to me?
Here's the point, my illiterate friend, while people in Germany may take their dogs to dinner, that doesn't make it right nor do all German dog owners feel that way....only the ones who don't have any respect for other people in society.

I have a dog, wonderful old lab. She doesn't go inside stores, restaurants, grocery stores....because I am not so self important to think just because she's MY dog (therefore special) she belongs there.

Hador aitler Wrote:
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> You could say the same about killing Jews...

You could if you were a idiot. Meanwhile, dogs are a common sight in German restaurants. Simple fact.

Health Issue Wrote:
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> Isn't this a health issue?

Sure, Doc...the very same "health issue" as having a dog in your kitchen or bedroom at home. Get a grip.

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> I'm allergic to dogs. Bring your mutt into HD and I will
> sue the fuck out of you amd HD.

LOL! You'll have to pay your legal team by the hour. No lawyer in the world would take that case on a contingency fee basis.

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> Huh, I don't see where I said it was a law? Can
> you point out that part to me?

Boy, you're dumb. The law does not require German people to take dogs out shopping and dining. And the fact that some folks you might know in Germany choose NOT to take their dogs out shopping and dining does counter the plain and simple fact that many thousands of other Germans do. Dogs out and about are a common sight there. Deal with it.

> Here's the point, my illiterate friend, while
> people in Germany may take their dogs to dinner,
> that doesn't make it right nor do all German dog
> owners feel that way....only the ones who don't
> have any respect for other people in society.

Here's the point, dull-brain -- YOU don't make that call. Germans do. And they plainly don't care what your stupid mores and pointless values about the matter are.

> I have a dog, wonderful old lab. She doesn't go
> inside stores, restaurants, grocery stores....
> because I am not so self important to think just
> because she's MY dog (therefore special) she
> belongs there.

Good for you. There's not a law here against being stupid either. What a country!

Big Deal, you argue like the typical dolt you are. Can't seem to keep your brain concentrated? Do the letters and numbers get all jumbled up look like sguiggly lines and stuff? You get confused easily?

You included in your discussion:

> It's not a law, dummy.

I never said it was. Never even mentioned the word law.

That said, my point is that if everyone had a little concern for other people rather than thinking they and their stupid fucking dog need to be in the restaurant, grocery store, Home Depot...things might just be a little better. But no, you and your kind just feel the need to do whatever you want whenever you want with no regard for anyone else. This applies to many areas; while driving, at work..... Too much to ask from the "do what I want crowd' I suppose.

Do what I want or, I'm going to call you a P.O.S doing what you want.
Maybe we should put it up for a vote. If we did, the dogs would win. People love dogs! Dog's aren't dirty like people think. People who own dogs are healthier than those who don't. Stress causes health problems. People who hate dogs tend to be uptight. We don't catch illnesses from dogs, they don't catch them from us. Now, children pass around a lot of sickness to adults. I worked at a daycare once and got sick 4 times in 2 months and quit. So, maybe its those filthy things that should be kept at home.

To the allergic people, maybe pop a Benadryl, it'll relax you a bit too.

I bring my dog to the gym all the time, the ladies love him and guys get off machines quicker.

My dog needs to get out after what he did to my daughter
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Dog the bounty Hunter Wrote:
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> I have noticed a trend of some dog owners becoming
> so obsessed with their dogs that they feel the
> need to"include" their dog as an equal member of
> the family in everything. Thus Rover needs to come
> along to pick out new cabinet knobs or a screen
> door. There is really no good reason to bring your
> dog to home depot.

A few years back, a neighbor woman let her big dogs into her unfenced front yard (they would have been lonely in her fenced back yard) so the dogs could be with her and kids as they put up holiday lights in the front. I guess she wanted the dogs to get in on the holiday spirit. (Makes as much sense as the dogs helping to pick new cabinet knobs.)

Of course, it's her own front yard. If the dogs were trained to stay there, no problem, but she couldn't be bothered to train them. If she staked/tied the dogs in the front, no problem, but she couldn't be bothered to do that.

Her dogs had menaced my leashed dog and me about a week earlier, but turned away at about 20 feet. A few days after that encounter, I asked the woman as politely as possible to please keep the dogs on leashes when off her property. She was evasive and dismissive. I explained that my dog had been mugged previously by off-leash dogs and I didn't want it to happen again.

I had been carrying a walking stick after the previous mugging. After the woman make it clear that she didn't care about the safety of my dog or me, I dug-out the pepper spray that I had bought for my wife years earlier (she didn't want to carry it).

One day, the woman, her kids, and dogs (?) worked on the holiday lights, unbeknownst to me. I was minding my own business as I walked my leashed dog on a sidewalk 5 houses from my house, 3 houses from the woman's house.

The woman's dogs were more interested in angrily charging 200 feet towards my leashed dog and me, instead of continuing to help with the holiday lights. The larger of the two dogs closed to about 8 feet and changed from barking and snarling to deep growling and baring his teeth. I pepper sprayed that dog before he could move in to bite me or my dog.

The dog owner actually explained to the Animal Control Officer that she brought the dogs into the unfenced front yard for the set up of the holiday lights.

The few times that I moved my dog from our fenced back yard to our unfenced front yard to be with me as I worked in the front, I put the dog on line that kept her in our front yard. Really kind of easy to do.

A week or so after that first pepper spray incident, the woman's husband came after my wife, my dog, and me as we walked on a dead end street. Brandishing his big dog like a weapon and as the dog strained on his leash (so they did own leashes) to pull menacingly towards my little dog, the husband shouted insults and threats.

He yelled, "stay away from my dogs, stay away from my family!" [I thought about that later, his dogs were both healthy and young. Bigger dog was about 85 lbs and his smaller dog was about 65 lbs. Unless you're Usain Bolt, I don't think that you can stay away from the dogs when they run towards you.]

My reply was "keep your dogs on leashes when off your property!" He declared "B___s___, they're the neighborhood dogs, a__wipe."

I never knew when there was an election for neighborhood dogs.

The guy was especially mad b/c I had made videos of the loose dogs in the earlier incident. I guessed that his wife and he would otherwise be lying to the police/animal control about what had happened.

I love dogs, big dogs, little dogs, medium dogs, but my responsibility was to keep my dog safe from dogs that were illegally off leash when they presented an immediate danger. Since I started carrying pepper spray, I encountered dozens of loose dogs without the need to use pepper spray or call Animal Control. They were all either friendly (in which case I petted them if owner was around & gave permission) or the dogs were indifferent, no threat to me or mine.

Almost two years after the 1st pepper spray incident, the neighbors' two big dogs again charged my dog and me. My wife was with me this time. The dogs charged side-by-side at top speed. I instinctively grabbed the MACE brand pepper gel that I now carried (longer range and less blowback into your own face than with pepper spray) and sprayed the dogs. Soon, the dogs had done a 180 and were running back to their yard as fast as they had charged in the aborted attack.

Again, the woman had intentionally let her dogs into the front yard with no plan to keep them from running loose. Husband and wife dog owners then shouted threats, vulgarities, and insults as my wife, my dog, and me hurried home. Husband shouted "F---ing a--hole, why don't you try and spray me!"

Guy was standing in his yard as he issued that challenge to mutual combat. I wasn't interested in fighting and sure as hell wasn't going to go into his yard. Police (called by me) later told me that the husband and wife let their two dogs into their house without ever washing off the pepper gel and petted the dogs covered with pepper gel. So their whole house and husband and wife were pepper sprayed (indirectly).

The irony of his challenge to me to spray him was that he sprayed himself, indirectly. If your dog was covered with bad stuff whether it's mud, manure, chemical, whatever, you would keep the dog outside until you had washed the stuff off the dog. You wouldn't bring the dog inside and you would not pet the dog if he's covered with bad stuff. I thought that was elementary.

Again, I had video and audio of most of the event and used that to explain the circumstances to the officers.

Officers spent 45 minutes or so at the dog owners' house. When the lead female officer returned to my house, she told me that the guy tried to argue with her as she told him repeatedly that I had a right to do everything that I had done (i.e., spray his charging illegally off-leash dogs) to defend my wife, myself, and my dog.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/28/2016 11:56AM by Dog Walker1.

^Love this story.

846358 Wrote:
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> ^Love this story.

Thanks. I will never understand how my neighbors thought that they had a right to let their untrained, poorly socialized dogs loose to charge other people and leashed dogs in the neighborhood.

The dog owners committed a series of epic failures as pet owners, then tried to blame me for the logical consequences of their irresponsibility. The most astounding failure of those pet owners was not immediately washing the dogs, outside, and getting the pepper off the dogs. I sure didn't want to hurt their dogs, just wanted to make sure that they didn't hurt my wife, my dog, or me.

In both of the pepper incidents, the officers assured me that the sprayed dogs would be fine, that the pepper spray/gel would not cause permanent damage to the dogs. That was what my prior research indicated.

My back-up to the pepper spray/gel was my walking stick, but I definitely did not want to hit any dogs with it (unless absolutely necessary) as it could really injure the dogs. The problem wasn't so much with the dogs, as with their irresponsible owners.

I just wanted to walk my dog in peace and dared to defend my 27 lb dog, photo below, from their loose and charging, angrily barking, 85 lb and 65 lb dogs.



Our dog was rescued from a high-kill animal shelter to be trained in prison, before we adopted her. (You can see the shadow of the prison concertina wire in the photo.) She was an American Foxhound/Beagle mix and, sadly, died about 3 months after the pepper gel incident, almost 13 years after we got her. She was well worth defending.

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It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. - John Cassis on manners

Ignoring juvenile attacks and remarks on the internet for over two decades.

Arguing by deflection or name-calling is an admission that you don't have a rational argument.

Dear Dog Walker1-

Your dog is adorable.

I was also charged from the rear by a strange dog while walking in the neighborhood. Scared the crap out of me. I thought I was going to have to grab a branch or throw rocks at the beast.

Blaming others for personal irresponsibility is the way of the world any more.

It is all your fault.

Who do these people think they are?

DogWalker1 - nice story.

Would you have ever taken your dog into a store like Home Depot though?

Home Depot

the best place to buy Halloween Candy !!

FrankR. Wrote:
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> DogWalker1 - nice story.
>
> Would you have ever taken your dog into a store
> like Home Depot though?

Thanks.

I never took my dog in any store other than pet stores with signs indicating that leashed pets were allowed. I always assumed that pets were not allowed in stores unless a sign indicated otherwise. At the same time, I guess it's up to the store owner or manager to set the policy, unless health regulations forbid dogs in a particular venue such as a food store or restaurant.

Responsible dog owners do not take their dogs to inappropriate places.

Bad dog owners often do things that give all dog owners a bad reputation.

Years ago I was in a pool store when a customer walked in with a huge, mean, leashed German shepherd. There were no signs about dogs in the store.

[Don't think that I'm hating on German shepherds b/c I've known and met many that were as sweet as a dog could be, but there are mean dogs within almost any breed.]

My first reaction was that the odor of the noxious pool chemicals, annoying to my nose, would be especially irritating to a dog's sensitive nose.

Employee walked slowly over to offer help to the dog owning customer, whereupon the unmuzzled dog let out a loud angry bark that shook the store and caused alarm to everyone in the store.

Another customer, who was a lot braver than I was, turned to the dog owner and calmly said: "I have a dog like that at home. I would never take him out in public without a muzzle on and would never take him in a store like this."

Either the irresponsible dog owner ignored the reprimand or replied too softly for me to hear.

846358 Wrote:
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> Dear Dog Walker1-
>
> Your dog is adorable.
>
> I was also charged from the rear by a strange dog
> while walking in the neighborhood. Scared the crap
> out of me. I thought I was going to have to grab a
> branch or throw rocks at the beast.
>
> Blaming others for personal irresponsibility is
> the way of the world any more.
>
> It is all your fault.
>
> Who do these people think they are?

Thanks. Below are a couple more photos of my dog. When she was young she loved to get on the rail of the deck (like a cat) and walk along the top of the rail looking down for squirrels, chipmunks, or similar critters that would dare invade her back yard. Other photo shows her being chased by a buddy at a dog park, again one of her favorite activities as a young dog.

The strange dog that charged you from behind probably caused you to have a primal fear response.

My first run-in with one of the neighbors’ dogs was likewise terrifying.

Walking my dog on a leash as always, I was using a headlamp to see through the dark as it was about 8 at night. I heard the sound of a large animal running at a high rate of speed. Turning my head to the source of the sound, I initially saw a large black animal with large teeth. For a second or two, I thought it was a wild animal, maybe a bear. As I got my light on the animal, I saw that it was a black dog running at me from the neighbors’ yard.

As the dog ran into the street, I was yelling, “no, no, no!” I could hear a woman calling the dog back and the voice seemed to be coming from the neighbors’ yard. The dog turned back towards the neighbors’ yard when he had reached about 20 feet from me.

[It was reminiscent of an event when I was a kid in rural coastal California. Friend and I were hiking in a field when a wild boar started chasing us. We ducked through a barbed wire fence, and also climbed a small tree in case the boar, at least 200 lbs of mean, crashed through the fence. That type of event creates a primal fear response.]

Would you believe that the woman is a federal administrative official? I don’t want to specify which dept/agency and I can’t really determine how high up she is, probably moderately high up. I will say that the dept/agency is sufficiently important that you would wonder how someone like her could pass vetting and work there. I’m pretty sure that she worked for TSA at the time of the various incidents that I described, but she has apparently moved up into a new bureaucracy since then.

Husband apparently was a big man on campus, 30 years ago. In what is likely (IMHO) a textbook case of overcompensation, he now has “BIG” along with some initials on his license plate.

Conversations with the couple were hilarious (in retrospect, after danger from husband and dogs had passed) and often surreal. The woman evades responsibility like a 13 year old teenager.

As my wife, dog, and I hurried home after the pepper gel incident, the wife sobbed like a teenager "you sprayed our family pets, you're a bully." [I wanted to say "your dogs menaced my family pet," but it's hard to argue with a delusional person. I just keep saying "keep your dogs on leashes when off your property" and "I have a right to defend my wife, myself, and my dog."]

She also said, "just you wait, [my first & last names] 'til your dog gets loose."

(This was absurd b/c her dogs did not get loose. She set them loose.)

Husband chimed in, his voice dripping with hate, "I can't wait! I can't wait 'til your dog gets loose." (So, what? They would torture my dog if she had gotten loose, even though she would have posed no threat to them or their big dogs? That seemed to be the implication.)

Woman, federal official, shouts at me "You better watch yourself [my first & last names] when you're around our property!"

Since my house is on a cul-de-sac and the dog owners' house is where my street joins the only exit street, I have to drive or walk past the dog owners' house whenever I leave my home.

A few days after the dog charged me in that very first incident with no pepper used, and after she and her husband had ignored polite emails asking about the dog, I first asked her in person if it was her dog that charged me, she said that she didn’t know, while displaying various obvious mannerisms of deception.

“Well, do your dogs spend a lot of time out and about in the neighborhood?” I asked.

“Yes.” She said. “Well, why is that? I mean what do they do, open the doors?” I asked.

“Yes, they can open the doors,” she said, laughing. She might as well have said, “I can’t be responsible to control my dogs b/c they can open doors.” After that conversation, I retrieved the pepper spray that my wife refused to carry after I bought it for her years earlier.

I get it, I really do. In the minds of this couple, they and their dogs can do no wrong.

There was an incident a few years where a woman was angrily denouncing the guy who shot her brother to death. It seemed that her brother was with 2 other armed men who went into a bar at night. The 3 armed robbers pointed guns at the patrons and employees and demanded that the people get on the ground. One patron, who had a concealed carry permit and a hidden gun, did not get on the ground. Instead, he waited for the robbers to walk past him, whereupon that patron pulled out his gun and shot the woman’s brother to death. The other two robbers fled in fear.

She said, “He was a good brother and a good person. He just wanted money. He wouldn’t have shot anybody. He never hurt anybody in his life. That man should have warned my brother first. He had no right to shoot him.” [I’m paraphrasing all that. Police investigation cleared the shooter as justifiably shooting in defense of self and others.]

In the mind of that woman, her brother could do no wrong. The justifiably- killed armed robber and his family are the victims, to this woman.
I am not making that up.

Whether it’s on the news, Cops TV show with real criminals, or crime TV shows or movies, criminals or their relatives will often find a way to justify illegal actions. “I had to kill him b/c he humiliated me about my bad picks in the NCAA brackets” or similar nonsense, says the criminal. "I had no choice, don't you see?"

Now, I’m not saying that setting big, poorly-socialized, menacing dogs loose is on a par with armed robbery. I’m just saying that the dog owner couple love their dogs like the woman loved her brother. They can’t imagine a scenario where they or their dogs are responsible for unfortunate results of their actions. And the woman can’t accept that her armed robber-brother threw his life away and caused his own death by pointing guns to rob people.

Clearly the dog owners were the authors of their own misfortune. Yet, in their minds, they and their dogs are the victims of a mean neighbor, that would be me.

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puppy lover Wrote:
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> Those dogs in HD are cleaner than many of the Trump supporting inbreds in there.

fixed that for you.

Dog Walker1 you get better and better.
Let me explain some things-

Many of us love dogs. I in particular am in absolute awe of service dogs. Those are very well trained dogs and are never a problem.

However, that does mean that I like a huge (or little) dog jumping all over me, drooling all over my clothes, dodging one at a grocery store or other store, lunging at me and/or charging at me while I am taking a nice stroll around the neighborhood, etc. I do not like dodging manure and puddles of pee that they leave all over public places.

Your pets will be just fine at home. If they are not, then maybe you need to re-think why you have an animal living with you.

846358 Wrote:
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> Dog Walker1 you get better and better.
> Let me explain some things-
>
> Many of us love dogs. I in particular am in
> absolute awe of service dogs. Those are very well
> trained dogs and are never a problem.
>
> However, that does mean that I like a huge (or
> little) dog jumping all over me, drooling all over
> my clothes, dodging one at a grocery store or
> other store, lunging at me and/or charging at me
> while I am taking a nice stroll around the
> neighborhood, etc. I do not like dodging manure
> and puddles of pee that they leave all over public
> places.
>
> Your pets will be just fine at home. If they are
> not, then maybe you need to re-think why you have
> an animal living with you.

That does NOT mean that I like........
Contacts aren't in yet.

And there it is. The consensus says KEEP YOUR FUCKING DOGS OUT OF STORES LIKE HOME DEPOT.

And I also don't see the need to take them to restaurants, even with an outdoor seating area. Particularly when the servers are treating them better than they treat me, and the owners expect this. Doggie treats, special water bowls, etc. Been to Clarendon and Shirlington lately? I struggle to get a glass of water or a clean fork and see the dogs getting treating like royalty.

Looks like a lot of whining losers in here. People that apparently have an inferiority complex toward dogs.

No one is asking for a consensus as to whether or not you can or should bring a dog into HD or anywhere else. The fact is if the store allows it, the it is perfectly acceptable. It doesn't matter what you think. If what you thought mattered the HD policies or local ordinances would adjusted. As a result, your opinion and views are unobjectively irrelevant. You can respond to that but can't argue with it. Hopefully HD starts throwing dog days soon.

WhiningLosers Wrote:
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>As a result, your opinion and views are unobjectively
> irrelevant. You can respond to that but can't
> argue with it.

Right, but someone could start punching rude fuckers in the nose. That tends to take the fun part out of being rude for most people. That would be a good response if you ask me.

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> WhiningLosers Wrote:
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> >As a result, your opinion and views are
> unobjectively
> > irrelevant. You can respond to that but can't
> > argue with it.
>
> Right, but someone could start punching rude
> fuckers in the nose. That tends to take the fun
> part out of being rude for most people. That would
> be a good response if you ask me.


If your net worth is north of $500,000 please feel free to punch me

dog guy in homedepot Wrote:

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> If your net worth is north of $500,000 please feel
> free to punch me

Exact mentality that has killed this country, especially this area.

Act like a douche. Get punched. Sue the person who punched you for acting like a douche.

You're a faggot.

I'll intersperse my answer with from indented quotes from you.

846358 Wrote:
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> Dog Walker1 you get better and better.

Thank you.

> Let me explain some things-
>
> Many of us love dogs. I in particular am in
> absolute awe of service dogs. Those are very well
> trained dogs and are never a problem.

I met the nicest German shepherd service dog a few years ago. Old college friend and I met out of town to see the college team play. My friend had a paralyzed friend S who lived near the game site. My friend and I stayed one night at S's house with his wife and service dog Lemon.

Lemon was big and sweet. Well behaved, but she would push her head into your hand, signaling "pet me, pet me." Service dog was trained to pick up and get items for S.

Wife of S had put me in the bedroom upstairs, S & wife, and my college buddy downstairs. Wife of S told me that Lemon sleeps downstairs normally, but might get upstairs to patrol if I got up in the night. Sure enough, when I used the bathroom at 4 am, Lemon came up to my room and was lying down on the throw rug at the end of my bed when I returned to the bed room.

Beautiful, sweet, loving dog, but, if anyone had ever entered that house with evil intent, she would have ripped them apart. You could just tell that.
>
> However, that does mean that I like a huge (or
> little) dog jumping all over me, drooling all over
> my clothes, dodging one at a grocery store or
> other store, lunging at me and/or charging at me
> while I am taking a nice stroll around the
> neighborhood, etc. I do not like dodging manure
> and puddles of pee that they leave all over public
> places.
>
> Your pets will be just fine at home. If they are
> not, then maybe you need to re-think why you have
> an animal living with you.

My dog never wanted to jump on strangers nor would I have let her. She might wag her tail and hope to get petted, but I'd keep her away from people unless they wanted to greet her.

I always carried bags for picking up crap when I took my dog on a walk or to a park, whatever, but was often appalled b/c a significant minority of dog owners don't bother to pick up after their dogs.

I think it was Ocean City, MD where I saw a sign indicating that officers could check anyone walking a dog and the person must by law have a suitable bag or device to pick up dog crap. Otherwise, officer writes a ticket for a $50 fine.

The beauty of the law is that the officer doesn't need to see the dog crap and the owner walk away without picking it up. The burden is on the owner to always have the means to pick it up if he is walking his dog. Pretty simple burden to meet if you're more responsible than a stereotypical 13 year old.

WhiningLosers Wrote:
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> Looks like a lot of whining losers in here. People
> that apparently have an inferiority complex toward
> dogs.
>
> No one is asking for a consensus as to whether or
> not you can or should bring a dog into HD or
> anywhere else. The fact is if the store allows it,
> the it is perfectly acceptable. It doesn't matter
> what you think. If what you thought mattered the
> HD policies or local ordinances would adjusted. As
> a result, your opinion and views are unobjectively
> irrelevant. You can respond to that but can't
> argue with it. Hopefully HD starts throwing dog
> days soon.

I'm stabing the next dog I see in Home Depot. Also, fuck you.

Self-entitled assholes. That is the problem with this area. Everyone thinks because they have some shit job with a government contract they are special. Wake up. You aren't. Leave your pets at home asshole. We both know if your dog shits or pisses in a store you aren't going to clean it up.

FrankR. Wrote:
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> WhiningLosers Wrote:
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> > Looks like a lot of whining losers in here.
> People
> > that apparently have an inferiority complex
> toward
> > dogs.
> >
> > No one is asking for a consensus as to whether
> or
> > not you can or should bring a dog into HD or
> > anywhere else. The fact is if the store allows
> it,
> > the it is perfectly acceptable. It doesn't
> matter
> > what you think. If what you thought mattered
> the
> > HD policies or local ordinances would adjusted.
> As
> > a result, your opinion and views are
> unobjectively
> > irrelevant. You can respond to that but can't
> > argue with it. Hopefully HD starts throwing dog
> > days soon.
>
> I'm stabing the next dog I see in Home Depot.
> Also, fuck you.


No you won't. You probably don't even go to Home Depot. If you do it's probably for a soda or lightbulbs. People like you probably don't even own an establishment to improve. lol. nice try.

also if you did decide to commit a crime of stabbing a dog.. you'll probably mess up and cut yourself. the dog will probably attack you and the owner will probably knock both of your teeth out and hold you down until the police come and arrest you. while that could be mildly funny to watch, i'd advise you just grow up and move on, loser.

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> I'm stabing the next dog I see in Home Depot.
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Nice one!

uwLXk

Any dog who can sit at our dinner table, sleep in our beds, and drive our cars can and will be sent to Home Depot on errands. Case Closed!!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2245771/New-Zealand-dogs-pass-driving-test-really-CAN-drive-car.html

Barometre Wrote:
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> Any dog who can sit at our dinner table, sleep in
> our beds, and drive our cars can and will be sent
> to Home Depot on errands. Case Closed!!
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-224
> 5771/New-Zealand-dogs-pass-driving-test-really-CAN
> -drive-car.html


The case IS closed... no dogs allowed in home depot.