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here is the ultimate plan - to make Braddock/Wakefield Chappel a 4-way intersection. You can see the whole multi-modal plan slideshow here http://www.slideshare.net/fairfaxcounty/braddock-road-multimodal-study-guinea-road-to-i495
I have no idea where the brilliant plan to extend the left hand turn for Danbury came from I didnt see it in this study
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Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Danbury Forest Drive
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Date: April 19, 2016 12:26PM
Get ready to be ass-raped if you use Braddock between the beltway and Burke Lake Road. They are lengthening the lanes into Danbury Forest Drive on the West bound side and Wakefield Chapel on the East bound side. Yesterday the beltway was backed up from Braddock to 395 on the inner loop due to this construction.
Enjoy
"Braddock Road Construction
As you may have noticed, traffic signs along Braddock Road have begun alerting motorists to forthcoming changing traffic patterns. It is important to note that this work has nothing to do with the ongoing Braddock Road study, but rather is a separate project altering turn lanes.
The project is extending the turn lanes from eastbound Braddock Road to northbound Wakefield Chapel Road as well as the left turns from westbound Braddock Road to southbound Danbury Forest Drive.Beginning Thursday, March 17th, the striping company will begin to eradicate existing pavement markings and set temporary markings. The project will be done no later than May 31st, but is expected sooner. Mostly, the work will consist of paving and laying new lane markings as well as removing and rebuilding the concrete median strip that sits between Danbury and Wakefield to allow longer turning queues. It will not touch the grassy median strips either to the east or west of the project area. Following this work, the “Don’t Block the Box” markings will be reapplied. There will be no lane closures during rush hour, but work will occur between 9:30 am and 3 pm."
Enjoy
"Braddock Road Construction
As you may have noticed, traffic signs along Braddock Road have begun alerting motorists to forthcoming changing traffic patterns. It is important to note that this work has nothing to do with the ongoing Braddock Road study, but rather is a separate project altering turn lanes.
The project is extending the turn lanes from eastbound Braddock Road to northbound Wakefield Chapel Road as well as the left turns from westbound Braddock Road to southbound Danbury Forest Drive.Beginning Thursday, March 17th, the striping company will begin to eradicate existing pavement markings and set temporary markings. The project will be done no later than May 31st, but is expected sooner. Mostly, the work will consist of paving and laying new lane markings as well as removing and rebuilding the concrete median strip that sits between Danbury and Wakefield to allow longer turning queues. It will not touch the grassy median strips either to the east or west of the project area. Following this work, the “Don’t Block the Box” markings will be reapplied. There will be no lane closures during rush hour, but work will occur between 9:30 am and 3 pm."
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Toby R
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Date: April 19, 2016 03:03PM
only chumps live in that area
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
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Date: April 19, 2016 04:51PM
It isn't who lives in that area. It is who commutes through that area.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Braddock Road
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Date: April 19, 2016 10:10PM
Braddock Road needs to be four lanes in each direction, beltway to 123, with full interchanges at Rolling, Burke Lake, and Guinea.
Will never happen.
Will never happen.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
geniussteve
()
Date: April 19, 2016 10:12PM
Braddock Road Wrote:
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> Braddock Road needs to be four lanes in each
> direction, beltway to 123, with full interchanges
> at Rolling, Burke Lake, and Guinea.
>
> Will never happen.
The only thing that will fix the traffic in this area is more homes!
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> Braddock Road needs to be four lanes in each
> direction, beltway to 123, with full interchanges
> at Rolling, Burke Lake, and Guinea.
>
> Will never happen.
The only thing that will fix the traffic in this area is more homes!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
norm
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Date: April 20, 2016 06:13AM
fucked up traffic last night - backed up to 395 on the inner loop again because no left turn at Danbury forest. Looks like this will be the norm for a long time.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
lik
()
Date: April 20, 2016 09:00AM
norm Wrote:
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> fucked up traffic last night - backed up to 395 on
> the inner loop again because no left turn at
> Danbury forest. Looks like this will be the norm
> for a long time.
I imagine the Danbury Forest denizens will soon start using the other routes into the hood. Probably a lot do now given that the morons on Braddock east don't know what Don't Block The Box means.
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> fucked up traffic last night - backed up to 395 on
> the inner loop again because no left turn at
> Danbury forest. Looks like this will be the norm
> for a long time.
I imagine the Danbury Forest denizens will soon start using the other routes into the hood. Probably a lot do now given that the morons on Braddock east don't know what Don't Block The Box means.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
3MeGX
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Date: April 20, 2016 09:25AM
Back in the '90s, westbound Braddock traffic could make a left turn into the shopping center where Kilroy's is before they closed that median. Problem was that the left lanes on the eastbound side were backed up at the Port Royal Road light in the morning with traffic trying to get on the inner loop while the right lanes for getting onto the outer loop or turning onto Port Royal were free.
In six years of commuting from West Springfield to Rockville, I saw four collisions with my own eyes involving people making a blind left turn through the jammed up first couple of left lanes only to be slammed by somebody headed east in the mostly empty right lanes.
I didn't bother to count the post-accident messes for which I did not see the collision. There must have been at least a couple dozen of those.
In six years of commuting from West Springfield to Rockville, I saw four collisions with my own eyes involving people making a blind left turn through the jammed up first couple of left lanes only to be slammed by somebody headed east in the mostly empty right lanes.
I didn't bother to count the post-accident messes for which I did not see the collision. There must have been at least a couple dozen of those.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
VDOTisISIS
()
Date: April 20, 2016 01:04PM
Leave to VDOT to make a bad situation worse. The solution is to make every SOB who works in Richmond move to Little Rocky Run and commute to Seminary Road every day.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
b9EmP
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Date: April 20, 2016 02:43PM
lik Wrote:
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> norm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fucked up traffic last night - backed up to 395
> on
> > the inner loop again because no left turn at
> > Danbury forest. Looks like this will be the
> norm
> > for a long time.
>
> I imagine the Danbury Forest denizens will soon
> start using the other routes into the hood.
> Probably a lot do now given that the morons on
> Braddock east don't know what Don't Block The Box
> means.
Danbury forest is a cut through to Rolling Road. Lots of commuters use it
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> norm Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fucked up traffic last night - backed up to 395
> on
> > the inner loop again because no left turn at
> > Danbury forest. Looks like this will be the
> norm
> > for a long time.
>
> I imagine the Danbury Forest denizens will soon
> start using the other routes into the hood.
> Probably a lot do now given that the morons on
> Braddock east don't know what Don't Block The Box
> means.
Danbury forest is a cut through to Rolling Road. Lots of commuters use it
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
17Kchump
()
Date: April 20, 2016 05:41PM
I called VDOT today, and for what it's worth, they said that this turn lane project is Fairfax County Department of Transportation.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
vbGe3
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Date: April 20, 2016 06:15PM
When it's really backed up -- use 236 West -- turn left on Guinea and take that down to Braddock.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
local...
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Date: April 20, 2016 07:17PM
3MeGX Wrote:
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> Back in the '90s, westbound Braddock traffic could
> make a left turn into the shopping center where
> Kilroy's is before they closed that median.
> Problem was that the left lanes on the eastbound
> side were backed up at the Port Royal Road light
> in the morning with traffic trying to get on the
> inner loop while the right lanes for getting onto
> the outer loop or turning onto Port Royal were
> free.
>
> In six years of commuting from West Springfield to
> Rockville, I saw four collisions with my own eyes
> involving people making a blind left turn through
> the jammed up first couple of left lanes only to
> be slammed by somebody headed east in the mostly
> empty right lanes.
>
> I didn't bother to count the post-accident messes
> for which I did not see the collision. There must
> have been at least a couple dozen of those.
Up until '82 or so you could come out of Ravensworth Shopping Cntr and make a left onto westbound Braddock Rd at the turn lane through the median you mention. More development, more cars, more crashes. Exit closed to West bound Braddock traffic from the plaza.
You also used to be able to go left on green at Queensberry Ave. Not any more! Knew a dude who's car got flipped there...
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> Back in the '90s, westbound Braddock traffic could
> make a left turn into the shopping center where
> Kilroy's is before they closed that median.
> Problem was that the left lanes on the eastbound
> side were backed up at the Port Royal Road light
> in the morning with traffic trying to get on the
> inner loop while the right lanes for getting onto
> the outer loop or turning onto Port Royal were
> free.
>
> In six years of commuting from West Springfield to
> Rockville, I saw four collisions with my own eyes
> involving people making a blind left turn through
> the jammed up first couple of left lanes only to
> be slammed by somebody headed east in the mostly
> empty right lanes.
>
> I didn't bother to count the post-accident messes
> for which I did not see the collision. There must
> have been at least a couple dozen of those.
Up until '82 or so you could come out of Ravensworth Shopping Cntr and make a left onto westbound Braddock Rd at the turn lane through the median you mention. More development, more cars, more crashes. Exit closed to West bound Braddock traffic from the plaza.
You also used to be able to go left on green at Queensberry Ave. Not any more! Knew a dude who's car got flipped there...
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
farmer
()
Date: April 20, 2016 09:17PM
local... Wrote:
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> ....You also used to be able to go left on green at
> Queensberry Ave. Not any more! Knew a dude who's
> car got flipped there...
That was really dangerous. With that rise, just before the Queensberry light, on eastbound Braddock, the sightlines were terrible. And with more and more gross speeding and "devise" play, the more dangerous it got.
It took a few fatals at that intersection before they finally added the turn on green arrow only....
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> ....You also used to be able to go left on green at
> Queensberry Ave. Not any more! Knew a dude who's
> car got flipped there...
That was really dangerous. With that rise, just before the Queensberry light, on eastbound Braddock, the sightlines were terrible. And with more and more gross speeding and "devise" play, the more dangerous it got.
It took a few fatals at that intersection before they finally added the turn on green arrow only....
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Onlyidiots reply with a ass answ
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Date: April 20, 2016 10:24PM
It is unbelievable... and i pay almost 30 dollars a week to use the express lane unfucking real.... refund yes
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Nightmare Commute
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Date: April 21, 2016 03:02PM
My husband got caught in that mess. Can anyone recommend workarounds from Western Fairfax to the Beltway?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
BillyBob1
()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:28PM
RE: "When it's really backed up -- use 236 West -- turn left on Guinea and take that down to Braddock."
-You and everyone else....
-Way backed up this week.
-You and everyone else....
-Way backed up this week.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: April 21, 2016 03:50PM
Braddock Road Wrote:
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> Braddock Road needs to be four lanes in each
> direction, beltway to 123, with full interchanges
> at Rolling, Burke Lake, and Guinea.
Never say never. I have been hearing something about this for a couple of years.
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> Braddock Road needs to be four lanes in each
> direction, beltway to 123, with full interchanges
> at Rolling, Burke Lake, and Guinea.
Never say never. I have been hearing something about this for a couple of years.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
books on tape
()
Date: April 21, 2016 04:56PM
Nightmare Commute Wrote:
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> My husband got caught in that mess. Can anyone
> recommend workarounds from Western Fairfax to the
> Beltway?
From West to East you have Rt. 236 but that is really bad in the morning. Braddock is the reasonable route most of the time but for the next month it will just suck. I suggest books on tape.
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> My husband got caught in that mess. Can anyone
> recommend workarounds from Western Fairfax to the
> Beltway?
From West to East you have Rt. 236 but that is really bad in the morning. Braddock is the reasonable route most of the time but for the next month it will just suck. I suggest books on tape.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Granny
()
Date: April 28, 2016 07:44PM
Are we getting the lost westbound lane on Braddock back when construction is over?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Zak1
()
Date: April 29, 2016 12:32PM
This is the bane of my existence when traveling eastbound on Braddock, at any fucking time of the day!
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Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
driverofcars
()
Date: April 29, 2016 01:01PM
Zak1 Wrote:
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> This is the bane of my existence when traveling
> eastbound on Braddock, at any fucking time of the
> day!
Well, they gotta move over at some point... you want people to just not use that lane at all?
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> This is the bane of my existence when traveling
> eastbound on Braddock, at any fucking time of the
> day!
Well, they gotta move over at some point... you want people to just not use that lane at all?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Zak1
()
Date: April 29, 2016 01:08PM
Of course, cars need to merge. However, since this lane continuously causes a bottleneck, I'm going to blame the road design. I think their is too little warning for people to get over. They implemented this configuration during the 495 ExpressLanes construction. I guess they ran out of space, given the need for the northbound 495 on-ramp just yards away...
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
ybxFd
()
Date: April 29, 2016 01:36PM
Zak1 Wrote:
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> Of course, cars need to merge. However, since
> this lane continuously causes a bottleneck, I'm
> going to blame the road design. I think their is
> too little warning for people to get over. They
> implemented this configuration during the 495
> ExpressLanes construction. I guess they ran out of
> space, given the need for the northbound 495
> on-ramp just yards away...
That is a mess. Always somebody stuck in that lane trying to get over. Then you have the traffic making a right from the light also trying to get across both of those lanes. Plus now the people trying to get from right to left to get over to the express lanes. Then on the other side trying to get from 495 all the way across traffic to turn on Ravensworth. It's a clusterfuck all around.
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> Of course, cars need to merge. However, since
> this lane continuously causes a bottleneck, I'm
> going to blame the road design. I think their is
> too little warning for people to get over. They
> implemented this configuration during the 495
> ExpressLanes construction. I guess they ran out of
> space, given the need for the northbound 495
> on-ramp just yards away...
That is a mess. Always somebody stuck in that lane trying to get over. Then you have the traffic making a right from the light also trying to get across both of those lanes. Plus now the people trying to get from right to left to get over to the express lanes. Then on the other side trying to get from 495 all the way across traffic to turn on Ravensworth. It's a clusterfuck all around.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
()
Date: July 08, 2016 04:01PM
Zak1 Wrote:
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> This is the bane of my existence when traveling
> eastbound on Braddock, at any fucking time of the
> day!
Then report it to VDOT, ya twat!
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> This is the bane of my existence when traveling
> eastbound on Braddock, at any fucking time of the
> day!
Then report it to VDOT, ya twat!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: July 08, 2016 04:18PM
It won't do any good.
VDoT deliberately accepted a fucked up interchange at Braddock and the Beltway as part of the cost of having the HOT lanes done. Before the HOT lanes you had the classic cloverleaf which didn't require that anyone stop at a light. Accessing the HOT lanes required that they do away with the forner leaf going from westbound Braddock to 495 south. It also required a light so that people going eastbound on Braddock could access the HOT lanes, people going westbound on Braddock could access the new route to 495 south and those coming from the HOT lanes could more easily get on Braddock east or west. If this wasn't bad enough, the new light was not synchronized with the light at Port Royal, creating new potential for traffic backups on Braddock. As I said all of this was a deliberate choice by VDoT.
Ironically VDoT is considering doing away with the light at Braddock and Queensbury which is synchronized with the light at Port Royal, and thus has little impact on Braddock traffic.
VDoT deliberately accepted a fucked up interchange at Braddock and the Beltway as part of the cost of having the HOT lanes done. Before the HOT lanes you had the classic cloverleaf which didn't require that anyone stop at a light. Accessing the HOT lanes required that they do away with the forner leaf going from westbound Braddock to 495 south. It also required a light so that people going eastbound on Braddock could access the HOT lanes, people going westbound on Braddock could access the new route to 495 south and those coming from the HOT lanes could more easily get on Braddock east or west. If this wasn't bad enough, the new light was not synchronized with the light at Port Royal, creating new potential for traffic backups on Braddock. As I said all of this was a deliberate choice by VDoT.
Ironically VDoT is considering doing away with the light at Braddock and Queensbury which is synchronized with the light at Port Royal, and thus has little impact on Braddock traffic.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
()
Date: September 08, 2016 11:19AM
I got this email from VDOT, explaining the situation at that juncture on Braddock:
"Thank you for contacting VDOT with concerns with in the Northern Virginia area roadways.
In reviewing the concern about the forth lane, there are 3 signs to help indicate which lane the driver should be in to continue.
The first sign that is ground mounted indicates (from left to right), to east 620, to north 495 keep left, to south 495 keep right, the second set of signs overhead states 495 north Tysons Corner ¼ mile, the other sign beside that says, 495 south Richmond, Alexandria with 2 down arrows pointed to the 2 lanes. The third set of signs indicates 495 north Tysons Corner with a down arrow pointing to the 3rd lane from the left and right and the other sign indicates 495 south Richmond, Alexandria with exit only and 2 arrows pointing to the right, the arrows are above the far right 2 lanes.
It’s a matter of the driver paying attention to the signage.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any question or other concerns."
"Thank you for contacting VDOT with concerns with in the Northern Virginia area roadways.
In reviewing the concern about the forth lane, there are 3 signs to help indicate which lane the driver should be in to continue.
The first sign that is ground mounted indicates (from left to right), to east 620, to north 495 keep left, to south 495 keep right, the second set of signs overhead states 495 north Tysons Corner ¼ mile, the other sign beside that says, 495 south Richmond, Alexandria with 2 down arrows pointed to the 2 lanes. The third set of signs indicates 495 north Tysons Corner with a down arrow pointing to the 3rd lane from the left and right and the other sign indicates 495 south Richmond, Alexandria with exit only and 2 arrows pointing to the right, the arrows are above the far right 2 lanes.
It’s a matter of the driver paying attention to the signage.
Please feel free to contact me if you have any question or other concerns."
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
pretty much dissed you
()
Date: September 08, 2016 02:25PM
"It’s a matter of the driver paying attention to the signage." pretty much dissed you there. the signs are not obvious or easily visable imho
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
kulo
()
Date: September 08, 2016 03:55PM
Motherfuckers around here are looking at phones, not signs!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: September 08, 2016 04:19PM
Having driven through the intersection a few times recently, I have to agree with VDOT. IF you are paying attention to the signs and trying to be in the correct lane, you should have no problem. It isn't that people are not paying attention to the signs. It is that people are trying to get ahead.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
F3Kvn
()
Date: September 08, 2016 04:25PM
Whats with the new flashing warning sign westbound " new traffic pattern 9/19"? are they going to get rid of the extended turning lane and put everything back the way it was?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
DD
()
Date: September 11, 2016 09:51PM
That would make sense, so that's probably not what they'll be doing. I can't wait to see the big surprise on the 19th. I'm sure whatever it is, it will add another 15 minutes to my commute.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
VDOT vs FCDOT
()
Date: September 11, 2016 11:51PM
Fairfax County DOT wanted to fix Braddok Road at Wakefield Chapel and west.
VDOT said no.
FC DOT did what they could, with county money.
Result was even more fucked up than before.
VDOT said Told-ya-so.
FCDOT said their hands were tied by VDOT.
In steps John Cook.
Forces VDOT and FCDOT into a meeting and won't let them leave until they agreed on a solution.
That's the solution being built later this month.
VDOT said no.
FC DOT did what they could, with county money.
Result was even more fucked up than before.
VDOT said Told-ya-so.
FCDOT said their hands were tied by VDOT.
In steps John Cook.
Forces VDOT and FCDOT into a meeting and won't let them leave until they agreed on a solution.
That's the solution being built later this month.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
VtkUG
()
Date: September 12, 2016 12:35AM
Oh I hope the solution is good and that an elected official worked to get it done!
My niece recently moved to that area and, traffic or not, it is not clear. I agree you shouldn't be a distracted driver but you shouldn't have to study the road signs like they're Thoreau to safely be on your way.
My niece recently moved to that area and, traffic or not, it is not clear. I agree you shouldn't be a distracted driver but you shouldn't have to study the road signs like they're Thoreau to safely be on your way.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
bumper to bumper
()
Date: September 12, 2016 11:14AM
Traffic backs up the beltway after the Danbury Forest change. Now traffic backs all the way to 495 off ramp. Starting as early as 350pm traffic is bumper to bumper from Port Royal to Burke Lake Rd. Never happened before the change.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
DD
()
Date: September 12, 2016 11:22AM
I wish they would just get rid of that left turn onto Danbury Forest. If they changed that left turn lane from West bound Braddock rd into a straight lane, it would take care of the stupid problems they made in April.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Cut Through
()
Date: September 13, 2016 07:48AM
DD Wrote:
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> I wish they would just get rid of that left turn
> onto Danbury Forest. If they changed that left
> turn lane from West bound Braddock rd into a
> straight lane, it would take care of the stupid
> problems they made in April.
That's the obvious answer, especially since there is a fully signalled intersection at Southampton Drive just 300 yards up the road.
The Danbury Forest left turn exists mostly to support the people who want to cut through Kings Park and avoid the lights at Burke Lake and Rolling Roads. Close it off and solve multiple problems.
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> I wish they would just get rid of that left turn
> onto Danbury Forest. If they changed that left
> turn lane from West bound Braddock rd into a
> straight lane, it would take care of the stupid
> problems they made in April.
That's the obvious answer, especially since there is a fully signalled intersection at Southampton Drive just 300 yards up the road.
The Danbury Forest left turn exists mostly to support the people who want to cut through Kings Park and avoid the lights at Burke Lake and Rolling Roads. Close it off and solve multiple problems.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
non-problem cause
()
Date: September 13, 2016 08:06AM
Cut Through Wrote:
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> DD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wish they would just get rid of that left
> turn
> > onto Danbury Forest. If they changed that left
> > turn lane from West bound Braddock rd into a
> > straight lane, it would take care of the stupid
> > problems they made in April.
>
>
> That's the obvious answer, especially since there
> is a fully signalled intersection at Southampton
> Drive just 300 yards up the road.
>
> The Danbury Forest left turn exists mostly to
> support the people who want to cut through Kings
> Park and avoid the lights at Burke Lake and
> Rolling Roads. Close it off and solve multiple
> problems.
agreed. Ive never seen a solution to a non-problem cause more problems. That turn never caused backups beyond Wakefield chapel. Now the backup goes to the off ramp of the beltway by 4pm most days.
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> DD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wish they would just get rid of that left
> turn
> > onto Danbury Forest. If they changed that left
> > turn lane from West bound Braddock rd into a
> > straight lane, it would take care of the stupid
> > problems they made in April.
>
>
> That's the obvious answer, especially since there
> is a fully signalled intersection at Southampton
> Drive just 300 yards up the road.
>
> The Danbury Forest left turn exists mostly to
> support the people who want to cut through Kings
> Park and avoid the lights at Burke Lake and
> Rolling Roads. Close it off and solve multiple
> problems.
agreed. Ive never seen a solution to a non-problem cause more problems. That turn never caused backups beyond Wakefield chapel. Now the backup goes to the off ramp of the beltway by 4pm most days.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
jPxnP
()
Date: September 14, 2016 07:00PM
VDOT vs FCDOT Wrote:
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> Fairfax County DOT wanted to fix Braddok Road at
> Wakefield Chapel and west.
> VDOT said no.
> FC DOT did what they could, with county money.
> Result was even more fucked up than before.
> VDOT said Told-ya-so.
> FCDOT said their hands were tied by VDOT.
> In steps John Cook.
> Forces VDOT and FCDOT into a meeting and won't let
> them leave until they agreed on a solution.
> That's the solution being built later this month.
where is the link to these facts? I dont doubt them but would love to see the exchange between the authorities.
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> Fairfax County DOT wanted to fix Braddok Road at
> Wakefield Chapel and west.
> VDOT said no.
> FC DOT did what they could, with county money.
> Result was even more fucked up than before.
> VDOT said Told-ya-so.
> FCDOT said their hands were tied by VDOT.
> In steps John Cook.
> Forces VDOT and FCDOT into a meeting and won't let
> them leave until they agreed on a solution.
> That's the solution being built later this month.
where is the link to these facts? I dont doubt them but would love to see the exchange between the authorities.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Johnny Boy
()
Date: September 14, 2016 07:08PM
Was someone bored and decided let's fuck up a major road. This made no sense from the beginning and they need to move it back. As drivers we're conditioned to merge left but that's the last thing you wanna do with this clusterfuck.
As far as heading to 495 from Braddock the signs are pretty damn clear. Just look up and read them. If you can't then stop at the Shell and walk to it and read it until you understand it.
As far as heading to 495 from Braddock the signs are pretty damn clear. Just look up and read them. If you can't then stop at the Shell and walk to it and read it until you understand it.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
local douchebags in the media
()
Date: September 14, 2016 07:14PM
Its time to get this screw-up in front of the media. If someone can get me some info on Cook vs. VDOT vs. Fairfax dot Ill contact one of the local douchebags in the media
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
McDonnell ex lawyer
()
Date: September 14, 2016 07:17PM
We could call the News 4 I-Team. Is Pat Collins a FFX underground member??
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
blanche
()
Date: September 15, 2016 06:22AM
There is some sign on Braddock West bound after going over the Beltway that says "New Traffic Pattern on or about 9/19/16" so perhaps VDOT is changing things back? OR making it worse?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Paving?
()
Date: September 15, 2016 09:33PM
They've been repaving a lot of the side streets in the area this summer. Maybe braddock road is next? It is in pretty rough shape.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
jcfj8
()
Date: September 15, 2016 09:48PM
What the hell is FC DOT?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Survey sez
()
Date: September 15, 2016 10:46PM
jcfj8 Wrote:
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> What the hell is FC DOT?
Flaming cunt department of transportation.
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> What the hell is FC DOT?
Flaming cunt department of transportation.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Commuter
()
Date: September 16, 2016 09:36AM
"What the hell is FC DOT?"
Fairfax County Dept. Of Transportation.
I noticed yesterday that they have pushed back the new traffic pattern by a week. The sign now says 9/26/16.
Fairfax County Dept. Of Transportation.
I noticed yesterday that they have pushed back the new traffic pattern by a week. The sign now says 9/26/16.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
DFHuT
()
Date: September 16, 2016 09:53AM
is the construction being done by %99 illegals using asian imported tractors.
is it benefitting those luxury houses and condos newly built during the reign of falls church democrats ?
FUCK OFF FAIRFAX
only a fool would put trust in any word you people say
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
blanche
()
Date: September 16, 2016 11:12AM
Paving? Wrote:
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> They've been repaving a lot of the side streets in
> the area this summer. Maybe braddock road is next?
> It is in pretty rough shape.
I love how whoever is doing the side street repaving work puts signs on the main travel road that "Road Work" is going on, right lane closed, etc. Drivers merge into the left lane.
It ends up that the "Road Work" is on a side street that few people will be turning on to. Seems to be a new thing that is being done this year WTF? Couldn't the signs be clearer?
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> They've been repaving a lot of the side streets in
> the area this summer. Maybe braddock road is next?
> It is in pretty rough shape.
I love how whoever is doing the side street repaving work puts signs on the main travel road that "Road Work" is going on, right lane closed, etc. Drivers merge into the left lane.
It ends up that the "Road Work" is on a side street that few people will be turning on to. Seems to be a new thing that is being done this year WTF? Couldn't the signs be clearer?
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
CookistheCulprit
()
Date: September 26, 2016 05:51PM
John Cook is the one who had all this done. It was put in motion about 5 yrs ago. He lives back there in the Danbury Forest area, so he made it easy for him and his neighbors to get back there.
They need to cut off the west bound turn on Braddock to Danbury, extend the Southhampton turn lane (can be done without taking a lane, cut into the median), and let everyone use the light.
They need to cut off the west bound turn on Braddock to Danbury, extend the Southhampton turn lane (can be done without taking a lane, cut into the median), and let everyone use the light.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
vernonbuttsmeller
()
Date: September 27, 2016 02:23PM
After all the complaints, they are putting the road almost back to where it was before VDOY fucked with it in the first place. See John Cooks web site
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Wrong Again Idiot
()
Date: September 28, 2016 08:46AM
CookistheCulprit Wrote:
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> John Cook is the one who had all this done. It
> was put in motion about 5 yrs ago. He lives back
> there in the Danbury Forest area, so he made it
> easy for him and his neighbors to get back there.
>
Wrong. John Cook lives in Kings Park. Two lights down from there.
Nice try.
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> John Cook is the one who had all this done. It
> was put in motion about 5 yrs ago. He lives back
> there in the Danbury Forest area, so he made it
> easy for him and his neighbors to get back there.
>
Wrong. John Cook lives in Kings Park. Two lights down from there.
Nice try.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Median taken.
()
Date: September 28, 2016 11:33AM
Median taken. They dug up the median to the west at the Wakefield Chapel/Braddock intersection yesterday.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
I saw nothing
()
Date: September 28, 2016 11:50AM
vernonbuttsmeller Wrote:
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> After all the complaints, they are putting the
> road almost back to where it was before VDOY
> fucked with it in the first place. See John Cooks
> web site
I saw nothing about this on cook's website nor on his facebook page.
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> After all the complaints, they are putting the
> road almost back to where it was before VDOY
> fucked with it in the first place. See John Cooks
> web site
I saw nothing about this on cook's website nor on his facebook page.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Wagon
()
Date: September 28, 2016 08:23PM
Supervisor John Cook supports the meals tax.
He will take this NEEDED money to fix Braddock Rd.
If you believe this I have a used Tuba I can sell you....cheap.
He will take this NEEDED money to fix Braddock Rd.
If you believe this I have a used Tuba I can sell you....cheap.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: September 28, 2016 08:49PM
Cook said he was OK with the meals tax if the money was used for teacher pay increases, but not for "an elite, special program". Unfortunately once the tax is imposed the School Board can use its 70% for whatever it wants. Herrity and Smith voted against the proposal.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
The Music Died
()
Date: September 28, 2016 11:36PM
Wagon Wrote:
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> If you believe this I have a used Tuba I can sell
> you....cheap.
Give it back. I miss seeing Tuba Guy walking the Braddock Road.
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> If you believe this I have a used Tuba I can sell
> you....cheap.
Give it back. I miss seeing Tuba Guy walking the Braddock Road.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
pwU4j
()
Date: September 29, 2016 08:16AM
Median taken. Wrote:
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> Median taken. They dug up the median to the west
> at the Wakefield Chapel/Braddock intersection
> yesterday.
Yea they removed the cement median and replaced it with pavement stripes and orange barrels. WTF? I doubt they gained two feet of road total. All they need to do is UN-DO the dedicated left lane turn before the light. Go back to a 8-10 car long turn lane for Danbury Forest like they used to have so peps can use the left lane as a thru lane like before.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Danbury+Forest+Community+Pool/@38.8111093,-77.2270601,221m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xef38937ea89c08ac!8m2!3d38.802781!4d-77.235888
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> Median taken. They dug up the median to the west
> at the Wakefield Chapel/Braddock intersection
> yesterday.
Yea they removed the cement median and replaced it with pavement stripes and orange barrels. WTF? I doubt they gained two feet of road total. All they need to do is UN-DO the dedicated left lane turn before the light. Go back to a 8-10 car long turn lane for Danbury Forest like they used to have so peps can use the left lane as a thru lane like before.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Danbury+Forest+Community+Pool/@38.8111093,-77.2270601,221m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xef38937ea89c08ac!8m2!3d38.802781!4d-77.235888
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
LXbnU
()
Date: September 29, 2016 08:18AM
^ sorry this is the correct image of the intersection https://www.google.com/maps/place/Danbury+Forest+Community+Pool/@38.8111446,-77.2362432,221m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0xef38937ea89c08ac!8m2!3d38.802781!4d-77.235888
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
info on the newest attempt
()
Date: September 30, 2016 12:48PM
so were is the info on the newest attempt to un-fuck everything on Braddock and Danbury Forest???
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
deja vu
()
Date: September 30, 2016 04:28PM
Ok, so I drive this road everyday. The left lanes still merge together, and aside from the barrels over by Danbury Forest, I see no changes. What are they changing? I thought the "traffic pattern change" whatever it was, was supposed to be done by now.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
$000,000's of our tax dollars.
()
Date: October 04, 2016 12:20PM
Looks like they ground down the pavement East of Wakefield Chappel to the Danbury turn and re-painted the lines to where they used to be. No longer a dedicated turn lane from before the light into Danbury Forest. Essentially undoing everything they had done.
Wonder how much it cost to change the road then change it back to where it was to begin with? $000,000's of our tax dollars. Oh well at least we know Donald Trumps money wasnt wasted on this - his money is never wasted on taxes like the rest of us suckers.
Wonder how much it cost to change the road then change it back to where it was to begin with? $000,000's of our tax dollars. Oh well at least we know Donald Trumps money wasnt wasted on this - his money is never wasted on taxes like the rest of us suckers.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
fu2
()
Date: October 04, 2016 01:45PM
Good job douchebag. The ONE thread that didn't mention Trump or Clinton, and you have to go there. You're right, you are a sucker. And a bitch.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
zimm
()
Date: October 04, 2016 05:45PM
Now the right lane which was changed to go straight through west-bound merges again. Mutherfuckers.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Commuter
()
Date: October 05, 2016 10:59AM
I'm so confused. ..
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
kxndY
()
Date: October 05, 2016 11:35AM
It had the beltway backed up a half mile beyond the exit lane during rush hour -- at a stand still with traffic flowing at highway speeds behind.
There still seems to be huge back ups on 495 from this.
There still seems to be huge back ups on 495 from this.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
MGM backer
()
Date: October 05, 2016 11:50AM
So it is going back to normal now? In all seriousness how did this even come about and why did they think this would be a fix? You don't even have to be an engineer to know this wouldn't have worked out.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Joe l.
()
Date: October 05, 2016 12:08PM
Cooke altered it as an improvement.
Now, he is taking credit for the fix.
BS.
Now, he is taking credit for the fix.
BS.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
CookeistheCulprit
()
Date: October 05, 2016 09:35PM
Today the left turn to Danbury was cut off. Traffic flowed nice, I was on Braddock going Westbound around 5:30pm. Hopefully they keep it this way!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Jerry cringle
()
Date: October 05, 2016 09:53PM
Yes, traffic moved a lot better these last couple days. It should improve as people get used to the old pattern being back. The changes conditioned me to stay right due to the shit show left lane merge.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
cCCK7
()
Date: October 05, 2016 11:13PM
Typical VDOT.
If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming out of your faucets after they were done.
If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming out of your faucets after they were done.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
boondoggle
()
Date: October 07, 2016 02:59PM
They have barrels blocking the Danbury forest turn - hopefully they go back to the short turn land or just block that turn altogether. Its dangerous at most times to turn left across the mad max traffic barreling towards 495 anyway. The expense of all this is a complete waste as it was better before they changed it and now changed it back. You could have run a library budget for five years on this boondoggle
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: October 07, 2016 04:29PM
cCCK7 Wrote:
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> Typical VDOT.
>
> If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming out
> of your faucets after they were done.
I've heard rumors that the lane changes were done in part to get people headed west used to the idea that they should not use the left lane of Braddock Road, making it easier for VDOT to convert it to a HOT lane in a few years.
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> Typical VDOT.
>
> If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming out
> of your faucets after they were done.
I've heard rumors that the lane changes were done in part to get people headed west used to the idea that they should not use the left lane of Braddock Road, making it easier for VDOT to convert it to a HOT lane in a few years.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
CEPwv
()
Date: October 08, 2016 10:47AM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> cCCK7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Typical VDOT.
> >
> > If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming
> out
> > of your faucets after they were done.
>
> I've heard rumors that the lane changes were done
> in part to get people headed west used to the
> idea that they should not use the left lane of
> Braddock Road, making it easier for VDOT to
> convert it to a HOT lane in a few years.
HOt lanes will screw local traffic big time. people looking to get into Kings Park will be totally screwed and even those on the westbound side will be backed up to the beltway.
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> cCCK7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Typical VDOT.
> >
> > If they were a plumber, you'd have shit coming
> out
> > of your faucets after they were done.
>
> I've heard rumors that the lane changes were done
> in part to get people headed west used to the
> idea that they should not use the left lane of
> Braddock Road, making it easier for VDOT to
> convert it to a HOT lane in a few years.
HOt lanes will screw local traffic big time. people looking to get into Kings Park will be totally screwed and even those on the westbound side will be backed up to the beltway.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
brilliant plan
()
Date: October 10, 2016 11:46AM
here is the ultimate plan - to make Braddock/Wakefield Chappel a 4-way intersection. You can see the whole multi-modal plan slideshow here http://www.slideshare.net/fairfaxcounty/braddock-road-multimodal-study-guinea-road-to-i495I have no idea where the brilliant plan to extend the left hand turn for Danbury came from I didnt see it in this study
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
noone kares
()
Date: October 12, 2016 09:03AM
noone kares
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
why?
()
Date: October 12, 2016 03:12PM
Why are they kissing these Danbury Forest motherfuckers' asses?
Braddock has been a mess for decades, They should have researched the situation before they bought their dreary rowhouse. When I was looking for a house, I ruled out many that had intolerable traffic situations. Why is this such a difficult concept?
Fuck 'em, they made their bed and now they've got to lay in it, or sell the dump to another sucker.
Braddock has been a mess for decades, They should have researched the situation before they bought their dreary rowhouse. When I was looking for a house, I ruled out many that had intolerable traffic situations. Why is this such a difficult concept?
Fuck 'em, they made their bed and now they've got to lay in it, or sell the dump to another sucker.
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
DanburriedForestgump
()
Date: October 12, 2016 04:15PM
why? Wrote:
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> Why are they kissing these Danbury Forest
> motherfuckers' asses?
>
> Braddock has been a mess for decades, They should
> have researched the situation before they bought
> their dreary rowhouse. When I was looking for a
> house, I ruled out many that had intolerable
> traffic situations. Why is this such a difficult
> concept?
>
> Fuck 'em, they made their bed and now they've got
> to lay in it, or sell the dump to another sucker.
its a legit question. Danbury Forest is dumpy as is Kings Park. Why should the beltway and everyone else going West have to suffer so the residents and cut-through artists can take a left into the Danbury subdivision???
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> Why are they kissing these Danbury Forest
> motherfuckers' asses?
>
> Braddock has been a mess for decades, They should
> have researched the situation before they bought
> their dreary rowhouse. When I was looking for a
> house, I ruled out many that had intolerable
> traffic situations. Why is this such a difficult
> concept?
>
> Fuck 'em, they made their bed and now they've got
> to lay in it, or sell the dump to another sucker.
its a legit question. Danbury Forest is dumpy as is Kings Park. Why should the beltway and everyone else going West have to suffer so the residents and cut-through artists can take a left into the Danbury subdivision???
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
jack h
()
Date: October 12, 2016 05:49PM
Danbury Forest Drive Wrote:
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> Get ready to be ass-raped if you use Braddock
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> Get ready to be ass-raped if you use Braddock
fairfax county has been illegally hiring an "out of state" company to do road work who only hires illegas - it's called a shell game and is not only illegal it's an interstate law breach
they've done it 30 years now
i'm now seeing road work on a SMALL AREA take endless ammounts of time
NOT ONLY THAT, THEY NEVER FUCKING FINISH THE WORK
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
CookistheCulprit
()
Date: October 12, 2016 07:38PM
Looks like they are sticking with the left turn into Danbury Forest. They are going to split the difference with the left turn onto WF Chapel. There will be only a double yellow line to separate the two lanes. What a disaster this will turn in to!!
They need to do away with the let turn into DB Forest. It is too dangerous to cross, why do you think they put the big white box there!!
They need to do away with the let turn into DB Forest. It is too dangerous to cross, why do you think they put the big white box there!!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
traffic has been great
()
Date: October 13, 2016 09:09AM
traffic has been great since they closed the left turn to Danbury, sure hope they keep it closed because it was backed up to the exit ramp of 495 before
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
CookistheCulprit
()
Date: October 16, 2016 10:06AM
So they opened up the road. Squeezed a turn lane into DF. The lanes are so close that the people turning are nosing their cars into oncoming Braddock traffic going eastbound, causing drivers to either stop or swerve into the other lane. Big white caution box is back, so be careful out there.
CLOSE THE TURN TO DF!!! NO NEED TO WASTE THIS MUCH TIME AND MONEY FOR THE 200 RESIDENTS WHO LIVE BACK THERE!!!!
CLOSE THE TURN TO DF!!! NO NEED TO WASTE THIS MUCH TIME AND MONEY FOR THE 200 RESIDENTS WHO LIVE BACK THERE!!!!
Re: Braddock Road Construction
Posted by:
Joke Insurance
()
Date: February 11, 2017 08:52PM
There was a community meeting at Lake Braddock Seconday School on Feb 6 regarding which plans will be chosen. Here is what they selected:
http://www.slideshare.net/fairfaxcounty/braddock-road-multimodal-studyguinea-road-to-i495-community-meeting-no-3-feb-6-2017
http://www.slideshare.net/fairfaxcounty/braddock-road-multimodal-studyguinea-road-to-i495-community-meeting-no-3-feb-6-2017