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Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: transplant 2 fairfax ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:16PM

My SO and I are moving down to NoVA in about 2 months. I have a 12 year old boy, I want him going to a good school. Which of those two areas have the better schools?

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: SchoolAdvice ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:26PM

transplant 2 fairfax Wrote:
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> My SO and I are moving down to NoVA in about 2
> months. I have a 12 year old boy, I want him going
> to a good school. Which of those two areas have
> the better schools?

Viennia is a safe bet since any school covering that area is going to be excellent.

City of Falls Church schools are very good as well. Just avoid any area serving the Fairfax or Arlington areas of Falls Church. Ex. Any Fairfax School District that is served by Falls Church High School or Marshall High School.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: mustangs ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:55PM

I would suggest city of falls Church schools, George Mason high school is a great school. Mary Ellen Henderson middle school is the middle school for the city of falls Church. It used to be George Mason junior & senior high back in the days. Great schools system.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: FFXUREALTOR ()
Date: February 02, 2016 12:59PM

Not enough info. Need budget figures.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: FCC 4 the win ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:02PM

Housing prices in Falls Church city are higher than their neighbors' who live on the same block but are in Fairfax County for the simple reasons of the schools. Small system with an excellent reputation. In Vienna, you are at the whim of Fairfax's school board. They can redistrict you at the drop of the hat. Plus, Fairfax Schools have been on a steady decline since the 90s.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: transplant 2 fairfax ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:06PM

I am looking at the City of Falls Church not Falls Church in Fairfax County. Budget is $950,000 looking for a SFH at least 2,500 sqft.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: 2 rich for Vienna ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:07PM

Vienna is for peasants, FCC for the win!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Major Barbara. ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:08PM

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Major Barbara. ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:09PM

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: $$$$ ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:12PM

transplant 2 fairfax Wrote:
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> I am looking at the City of Falls Church not Falls
> Church in Fairfax County. Budget is $950,000
> looking for a SFH at least 2,500 sqft.


Good luck with that!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: slim pickins ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:25PM

$$$$ Wrote:
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> transplant 2 fairfax Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am looking at the City of Falls Church not
> Falls
> > Church in Fairfax County. Budget is $950,000
> > looking for a SFH at least 2,500 sqft.
>
>
> Good luck with that!


+1 last checked, there was only one house currently on the market for less than $1M in Falls Church.

Vienna has more than that. But, you'd have to live in Vienna. Bleh!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: *** WARNING *** ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:29PM

Thread infested with DUMBSHIT LYING FALLS CHURCH ASSHOLES. Quarantine expected shortly!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: FCC doge ()
Date: February 02, 2016 01:34PM

Wow much wealth in FCC, how amazing, much success

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Proud Parent ()
Date: February 02, 2016 02:10PM

Your "SO"?

You're trying to find a school for your child conceived in sin?

Begone!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: John J. ()
Date: February 02, 2016 02:56PM

The City of Falls Church has excellent schools, but the school system is very small. If you want your kid to play in the marching band and and/or have a lot of clubs to choose from, send him/her to a larger school such as Oakton or Madison.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: one comes out on top ()
Date: February 02, 2016 03:15PM


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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: HET ()
Date: February 02, 2016 03:23PM

John J. Wrote:
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> The City of Falls Church has excellent schools,
> but the school system is very small. If you want
> your kid to play in the marching band and and/or
> have a lot of clubs to choose from, send him/her
> to a larger school such as Oakton or Madison.


Yes, this is really an issue if your kid is in many activities. While area schools are traveling a whopping 5-10 miles for an event, while George Mason kids are travelling 50-100 miles on a school night.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Let's see... ()
Date: February 02, 2016 04:54PM

one comes out on top Wrote:
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> Because your kid is 12, he's headed to HS soon.
> All reputable rankings place GMHS in Falls Church
> ahead of JMHS.

It would appear that some people from Falls Church are simply too stupid to understand that an overall rating of any school says nothing at all about how an individual child will fit in or perform there. GMHS in Falls Church is most definitely tiny in comparison to the high schools in Vienna Or Oakton. A single grade level at those schools might well include more students than all of GMHS taken together. Otherwise, the question is one of the individual interests and aptitudes of your child.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: are you serious ()
Date: February 02, 2016 05:14PM

Let's see... Wrote:
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> one comes out on top Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Because your kid is 12, he's headed to HS soon.
>
> > All reputable rankings place GMHS in Falls
> Church
> > ahead of JMHS.
>
> It would appear that some people from Falls Church
> are simply too stupid to understand that an
> overall rating of any school says nothing at all
> about how an individual child will fit in or
> perform there. GMHS in Falls Church is most
> definitely tiny in comparison to the high schools
> in Vienna Or Oakton. A single grade level at
> those schools might well include more students
> than all of GMHS taken together. Otherwise, the
> question is one of the individual interests and
> aptitudes of your child.

The motto of JMHS is: "Garbage in, garbage out." If that is the environment you want for your kid, so be it.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Go fuck yourself ()
Date: February 02, 2016 05:18PM

are you serious Wrote:
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> The motto of JMHS is: "Garbage in, garbage out." If that is the
> environment you want for your kid, so be it.

Cool, dude. That' was so awesome of a post!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Redtg ()
Date: February 02, 2016 05:32PM

TJ Thomas Jefferson is the best. After that you want to go around Great Falls(Richies). (Not Sterling or Springfield)

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: School Watcher ()
Date: February 02, 2016 07:52PM

In 2015, City of Falls Church schools are better for almost all kids, except perhaps a few who really need a large high school for some reason.

If your children attend Vienna public schools, they will get shafted by the Fairfax County School Board's predilection for redistributing resources away from schools located in areas like Vienna and into schools located in areas that have a higher percentage of low-income kids. In contrast, the City of Falls Church has only one high school, so all of your property taxes will go to your own children's school.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: It's the same all over ()
Date: February 03, 2016 09:32AM

Redtg Wrote:
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> TJ Thomas Jefferson is the best. After that you want to go around
> Great Falls (Richies). (Not Sterling or Springfield)

TJ is of course a selective (you have to apply and be admitted) regional high school for outstanding STEM students that is operated by Fairfax County Public Schools. They do I think allow three students from Falls Church City Public Schools to enter each year. FairFax County Public Schools meanwhile operates a couple of dozen high schools and secondary schools. The same curricula, the same administrators, and the same pool of teachers support them all.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Class of 1998 ()
Date: February 03, 2016 09:45AM

I went to GMHS and it was okay, but once I got to college and talked to other kids that went to large high schools, I felt like I missed out on a lot. Mason is tiny, very tiny. Everybody knows everything about your life and that gets old quickly.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Some Ideas ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:12AM

If your son is involved in sports, George Mason HS is a small school (~750) and offers fewer different sports each season compared to larger FCPS schools. Also, because of its small size it has the worst travel schedule of ANY NoVa high school in team sports currently and going into the next conference realignment. Bull Run District includes Strasburg, Clarke County, Madison County, etc., so a lot of time on the bus to events.

Sports travel would be a lot less crazy with a larger FCPS school like Madison ~2,050), Marshall (~1,900), Oakton (~2,250), or McLean (~2,025).

Thoreau/Madison parent and really like the schools, but also know a lot of Marshall families too. Marshall was just completely rebuilt and reopened this past fall. In Vienna 22181/22182/22180 be careful about split feeders to Thoreau (also rebuilt opening this coming fall) and Kilmer then to Madison/Marshall -- they don't all line up...maps on FCPS website.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: you can't make this shit up ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:16AM

LOL! Yeah, parents are ALWAYS looking for larger schools with higher student to teacher ratios!

Stay stupid, Vienna!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Dickie the Stick ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:19AM

School Watcher Wrote:
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> In 2015, City of Falls Church schools are better
> for almost all kids, except perhaps a few who
> really need a large high school for some reason.

We should all try to remember that the next time 2015 rolls around. In the meantime, there are no bromides about either FCPS or FCCPS that are going to make any sense at all except to mindless hometown partisans. The one thing that can be fairly said is that FCPS is a very large system (187,000 or so students in nearly 200 schools and centers), and FCCPS is a very small system (fewer than 2,500 students in 5 schools and centers.) The annual budget of FCPS is around $2.6 billion, while that of FCCPS is less than $45 million.

> If your children attend Vienna public schools,
> they will get shafted by the Fairfax County School
> Board's predilection for redistributing resources
> away from schools located in areas like Vienna and
> into schools located in areas that have a higher
> percentage of low-income kids.

LOL! FCPS does not pretend that one-size-fits-all funding formulas will work well across a county of 400 square miles, more than 1.1 million residents, those nearly 200 schools, and 187,000 public school students. All FCCPS has to worry about is 2 square miles, 13,500 resident, 5 schools, and 2,400 students. By comparison, they amount to a one-room schoolhouse.

> In contrast, the City of Falls Church has only one high
> school, so all of your property taxes will go to your own
> children's school.

Not all Falls Church City taxes go to fund its city's school system, and of the dollars that do go to FCCPS, not all go to its single, small high school. The Falls Church City Council and its school board determine school funding allocations there, just as the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors and its school board do in Fairfax County. In both cases, you pay your taxes, and your elected reps decide what they want to do with the money.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: row row row your boat ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:22AM

Some Ideas Wrote:
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> If your son is involved in sports, George Mason HS
> is a small school (~750) and offers fewer
> different sports each season compared to larger
> FCPS schools.

As far as I can tell the only thing lacking from GMHS that JMHS has is crew. On the flip side, GMHS has hockey.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: The future looks bleak ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:31AM

you can't make this shit up Wrote:
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> LOL! Yeah, parents are ALWAYS looking for larger
> schools with higher student to teacher ratios!
> Stay stupid, Vienna!

Falls Church is a crowded and fast-fading dump. It's future is as an imitation high-rise Rosslyn across the way from big-time Tysons. Those entering the market with eyes for a durable SFH-based suburban community with green spaces and upscale amenities will need to look someplace else.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:47AM

The future looks bleak Wrote:
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> you can't make this shit up Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL! Yeah, parents are ALWAYS looking for
> larger
> > schools with higher student to teacher ratios!
>
> > Stay stupid, Vienna!
>
> Falls Church is a crowded and fast-fading dump.
> It's future is as an imitation high-rise Rosslyn
> across the way from big-time Tysons. Those
> entering the market with eyes for a durable
> SFH-based suburban community with green spaces and
> upscale amenities will need to look someplace
> else.

Which is why Falls Church is one of the hottest real estate markets for SFHs in the region, dumbass.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Floor exercises ()
Date: February 03, 2016 10:53AM

row row row your boat Wrote:
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> As far as I can tell the only thing lacking from GMHS that
> JMHS has is crew. On the flip side, GMHS has hockey.

Not sure about gymnastics at GMHS either. And as noted, the larger part of the downside of sports at such a small school may come in lower quality of the coaching and medical staffs, lower overall skill levels in both teammates and opponents, and of course those difficult travel schedules.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 03, 2016 11:18AM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> Which is why Falls Church is one of the hottest real
> estate markets for SFHs in the region, dumbass.

It's not of course. Bozos who don't understand simple statistics are the only ones doltish enough to make such claims, thoroughly misunderstanding the quirky classification by some sources of Virginia's independent cities as if they were counties. Go down to the turnip-truck unloading dock if you want to sell slop like that. Elsewhere, the fact that little tiny itty-bitty Falls Church City is an orange misplaced into a bushel of apples such as Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William, and Loudoun COUNTIES will cause people to laugh at you. Just as I'm doing.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Kane ()
Date: February 03, 2016 11:20AM

Floor exercises Wrote:
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> row row row your boat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As far as I can tell the only thing lacking from
> GMHS that
> > JMHS has is crew. On the flip side, GMHS has
> hockey.
>
> Not sure about gymnastics at GMHS either.

OP has a boy. There is no boys gymnastics team.

> And as noted, the larger part of the downside of sports
> at such a small school may come in lower quality
> of the coaching and medical staffs, lower overall
> skill levels in both teammates and opponents, and
> of course those difficult travel schedules.

GMHS boys basketball is on the cusp of being a top 25 WaPo team. Where is JMHS ranked?

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 03, 2016 11:28AM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fox has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Which is why Falls Church is one of the hottest
> real
> > estate markets for SFHs in the region, dumbass.
>
> It's not of course.

Of course it is and it is commonly known among those who know about such matters.

http://www.insidenova.com/news/arlington/data-d-c-falls-church-homes-sold-fastest-in/article_4ee02f2a-c066-11e5-a518-ebe7498920d2.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/2013/02/11/local-hot-housing-market-falls-church.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/breaking_ground/2014/07/falls-church-housing-hot-rest-of-washington-not-so.html

http://patch.com/virginia/fallschurch/falls-church-real-estate-market-hotter-than-arlington6044f3358c

So, we can take the word of people who report on these things for a living or some brainless asshole munching on sour grapes while nursing his butthurt envy.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Floor exercises ()
Date: February 03, 2016 12:04PM

Kane Wrote:
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> GMHS boys basketball is on the cusp of being a top 25 WaPo team.
> Where is JMHS ranked?

Relevance? And I suspect they'd both get their asses kicked by PVI.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 03, 2016 12:23PM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> Of course it is and it is commonly known among
> those who know about such matters.

That would certainly not include you or any of the dull-brained media peewees who get assigned to updating such lowly and miscast data to begin with. Any sensible analysis would roll the independent cities into the counties they are mosr closely associated with. Many do that, some do not.

> So, we can take the word of people who report on
> these things for a living or some brainless
> asshole munching on sour grapes while nursing his
> butthurt envy.

LOL! I'd be qualified at levels that soar above those of the low-grade media lackeys and gophers that you are citing here. Obviously, you are part of the reason why the media can get away with assigning dolts to these menial tasks. You're right off the back of that famous turnip truck and will fall for any old sort of slop at all.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Kane ()
Date: February 03, 2016 12:31PM

Floor exercises Wrote:
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> Kane Wrote:
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> > GMHS boys basketball is on the cusp of being a
> top 25 WaPo team.
> > Where is JMHS ranked?
>
> Relevance? And I suspect they'd both get their
> asses kicked by PVI.

"lower overall skill levels in both teammates and opponents."

A team with overall lower skill levels would not be on the cusp of breaking into WaPo's top 20. Relevant enough for you?

As for PVI, they and GMHS are "bubble" top 20 teams according to WaPo. PVI just fell out of the rankings.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 03, 2016 12:32PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fox has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Of course it is and it is commonly known among
> > those who know about such matters.
>
> That would certainly not include you or any of the
> dull-brained media peewees who get assigned to
> updating such lowly and miscast data to begin
> with. Any sensible analysis would roll the
> independent cities into the counties they are mosr
> closely associated with. Many do that, some do
> not.
>
> > So, we can take the word of people who report
> on
> > these things for a living or some brainless
> > asshole munching on sour grapes while nursing
> his
> > butthurt envy.
>
> LOL! I'd be qualified at levels that soar above
> those of the low-grade media lackeys and gophers
> that you are citing here. Obviously, you are part
> of the reason why the media can get away with
> assigning dolts to these menial tasks. You're
> right off the back of that famous turnip truck and
> will fall for any old sort of slop at all.

TRANSLATION: You kicked my ass with supporting documentation. All I have is my unfounded and butthurt bluster.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: transplant 2 fairfax ()
Date: February 03, 2016 01:48PM

After viewing the responses here, I have made up my mind. It looks like FCC is the clear winner, thanks all!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: SE Vienna resident ()
Date: February 03, 2016 02:04PM

transplant 2 fairfax Wrote:
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> After viewing the responses here, I have made up
> my mind. It looks like FCC is the clear winner,
> thanks all!

That is a sound conclusion.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 04, 2016 07:28PM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> TRANSLATION: You kicked my ass with supporting
> documentation. All I have is my unfounded and
> butthurt bluster.

If you aren't sophisticated enough to understand that comparing a tiny city to a giant county is apples-and-oranges nonsense, then you are going to finish at embarrassingly low levels in all sorts of discussions.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Bigger is better!!! ()
Date: February 04, 2016 07:31PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fox has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TRANSLATION: You kicked my ass with supporting
> > documentation. All I have is my unfounded and
> > butthurt bluster.
>
> If you aren't sophisticated enough to understand
> that comparing a tiny city to a giant county is
> apples-and-oranges nonsense, then you are going to
> finish at embarrassingly low levels in all sorts
> of discussions.

You must have a great deal of experience. Arizona State is the greatest university in the U.S. Harvard be damned.

Loser.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 04, 2016 09:17PM

Bigger is better!!! Wrote:
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> You must have a great deal of experience.

Yes, decades more than you and at MUCH higher levels. You are just an embarrassment to yourself when it comes to statistics.

> Arizona State is the greatest university in the U.S.
> Harvard be damned.

LOL! See what I mean?

> Loser.

Tell us again how un-stupid you are.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Simple question ()
Date: February 04, 2016 10:49PM

Well, to properly answer the question we need some more information. Would you prefer your kid learn a second language, or become a hell of a mattress salesperson?

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 05, 2016 03:44PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fox has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TRANSLATION: You kicked my ass with supporting
> > documentation. All I have is my unfounded and
> > butthurt bluster.
>
> If you aren't sophisticated enough to understand
> that comparing a tiny city to a giant county is
> apples-and-oranges nonsense, then you are going to
> finish at embarrassingly low levels in all sorts
> of discussions.

You don't need to compare to see the upward trends in Falls Church. Falls Church has very few days on the market, an upward trend in prices, etc.

All of that dismisses your butthurt envious statements of it being a decaying city. It is actually quite the opposite. Its commercial corridor is being revitalized with commercial property. While Vienna got a Fresh Market in a decrepit old strip center, Falls Church will get a brand new Fresh Market.

Older homes in the residential neighborhoods are being replaced with newer and better housing stock.

Contrary to your bluster, you cannot place a multistory commercial property on a residential lot. It just doesn't work that way and you are too stupid to understand it or a liar.

Simply put, you are full of shit and once again, you've had your ass handed to you on a silver platter.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 05, 2016 05:02PM

The 2 square miles and 13,500 people of Falls Church City are in no way even remotely comparable to the 400 square miles and 1.13 million people of Fairfax County. It's all apples-and-oranges from the get-go. The two cannot properly be compared on any scale at all. If you knew two shits about statistics, that much would be blindingly obvious to you. But you don't know jack-squat about statistics (or much of anything else), so you babble on with your nonsense like some low-grade wind-up toy.

Nota bene: Your city is literally being left in the dust at this point. For many years, you stood still, pretending that you could hold out as an SFH and green-space family-oriented suburb while subdividing every quarter-acre lot or larger in town. Fail, fail, fail. Meanwhile, you've simply been beaten out in the TOD, high-density game by Ballston, Tysons, and now Merrifield. That's where all the buzz has gone. Now you want to try to catch up? It's too late. Unless you seize the whole place under eminent domain and sell it all off to Abu Dhabi. Maybe they could do something with it. Otherwise, you've done a nice job of painting yourselves into a corner.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: keep on trucking ()
Date: February 05, 2016 07:29PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> Bigger is better!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You must have a great deal of experience.
>
> Yes, decades more than you and at MUCH higher
> levels. You are just an embarrassment to yourself
> when it comes to statistics.
>
> > Arizona State is the greatest university in the
> U.S.
> > Harvard be damned.
>
> LOL! See what I mean?
>
> > Loser.
>
> Tell us again how un-stupid you are.

Again, you embarrass yourself (or at least you would if you had any self-awareness). Many, many people are more educated and more intelligent than you. (I interact with lots of them on a daily basis.) The bigger difference, though, is that they are not so insecure.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 06, 2016 12:57PM

keep on trucking Wrote:
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> Again, you embarrass yourself (or at least you
> would if you had any self-awareness).

I'm sure the thought comforts you. Meanwhile, tiny little Falls Church City is not now and never will be rationally comparable to large and sprawling Fairfax County. While apples-and-oranges is the generic term, this would be more like a case of apples-and-oil-derricks. There is simply no excuse for it.

> Many, many people are more educated and more
> intelligent than you.

No, not that many actually, which is why I was paid the big bucks over all those years. Then there were the books and the seminars. Lots of fun at the time, but exhausting after a while. Glad to have all that behind me now.

> (I interact with lots of them on a daily basis.)

Yes, I can imagine how many that must actually be.

> The bigger difference, though, is that they are not
> so insecure.

Insecurity is not really among my personal worries. Raccoons stealing the suet was once a worry, but it looks like I've now outsmarted them as well. I'm sure you'll find them pleasant company.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 07, 2016 12:13PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> The 2 square miles and 13,500 people of Falls
> Church City are in no way even remotely comparable
> to the 400 square miles and 1.13 million people of
> Fairfax County. It's all apples-and-oranges from
> the get-go. The two cannot properly be compared
> on any scale at all. If you knew two shits about
> statistics, that much would be blindingly obvious
> to you. But you don't know jack-squat about
> statistics (or much of anything else), so you
> babble on with your nonsense like some low-grade
> wind-up toy.

Again, no comparison is needed to refute your mindless blabbering. You don't need to compare to see the upward trends in Falls Church. Falls Church has very few days on the market, an upward trend in prices, etc.

> Nota bene: Your city is literally being left in
> the dust at this point. For many years, you stood
> still, pretending that you could hold out as an
> SFH and green-space family-oriented suburb while
> subdividing every quarter-acre lot or larger in
> town. Fail, fail, fail. Meanwhile, you've simply
> been beaten out in the TOD, high-density game by
> Ballston, Tysons, and now Merrifield.

Umm, who is the one doing the comparing again. Comparing Falls Church to Ballston, Tysons, and Merrifield is comparing apples and oranges.

All of the facts dismiss your butthurt envious statements of it being a decaying city. It is actually quite the opposite. Its commercial corridor is being revitalized with commercial property. While Vienna got a Fresh Market in a decrepit old strip center, Falls Church will get a brand new Fresh Market.

Older homes in the residential neighborhoods are being replaced with newer and better housing stock.

Contrary to your bluster, you cannot place a multistory commercial property on a residential lot. It just doesn't work that way and you are too stupid to understand it or a liar.

Simply put, you are full of shit and once again, you've had your ass handed to you on a silver platter.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 07, 2016 01:41PM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> Again, no comparison is needed to refute your
> mindless blabbering.

Take a stat course, moron. Learn why your endless claims that RE markets in FCC are hot, hot, hot, are nothing but stupid, stupid, stupid.

> Umm, who is the one doing the comparing again.
> Comparing Falls Church to Ballston, Tysons, and
> Merrifield is comparing apples and oranges.

Not comparing at all. Just stating a plainly evident fact. There is buzz all around FCC, but none in it. It's become a dead zone.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fix has spoken ()
Date: February 07, 2016 01:49PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fox has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Again, no comparison is needed to refute your
> > mindless blabbering.
>
> Take a stat course, moron. Learn why your
> endless claims that RE markets in FCC are hot,
> hot, hot, are nothing but stupid, stupid, stupid.

So, you have no evidence to support your endless bluster. You've got jack shit to support your claims.

Here is a challenge. Post something that supports your claim that Falls Church City is decaying. Post an article, a statistic, ANYTHING that supports your claim.

Post it, or we'll all know your a lying sack of shit. Accept the challenge, you pussy.

Yeah, we get it, you lying twerp, you can't and you won't!

> > Umm, who is the one doing the comparing again.
> > Comparing Falls Church to Ballston, Tysons, and
> > Merrifield is comparing apples and oranges.
>
> Not comparing at all.

Umm, sure you are. Attempting to deny it now just makes you look ridiculously stupid and full of butthurt envy.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 07, 2016 04:31PM

the fix has spoken Wrote:
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> So, you have no evidence to support your endless bluster.
> You've got jack shit to support your claims.

I've taken plenty of stat courses. Statistics was an important part of my profession. You of course don't know your flabby fucking ass from a hole in the ground about the subject, which is why you repeatedly try to cite the same old completely worthless real estate numbers as if they had some actual meaning. Stuck on totally stupid is not a good way to go through life.

> Here is a challenge. Post something that supports your
> claim that Falls Church City is decaying. Post an article,
> a statistic, ANYTHING that supports your claim.

Haven't you seen the population density numbers? The lagging median household income numbers? The numbers of subdivisions of already under-sized lots? Then consider that decay can come from failure to keep up with one's neighbors, not just from events of actual decline. The bloom was already off the FCC rose 40 years ago. It won't be coming back again at this point. Quite the contrary in fact -- you'll just slowly slip into being Arlington Junior. What is Tinner Hill supposed to be? Mason Row? What's replacing the Burger King? What are plans for the Stratford these days? I'll tell you -- it's all more Ballston, but 30 years behind the times.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 08, 2016 12:13PM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> the fix has spoken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So, you have no evidence to support your endless
> bluster.
> > You've got jack shit to support your claims.
>
> I've taken plenty of stat courses. Statistics was
> an important part of my profession.

Yet, you can't understand them and you appear to be a complete idiot!

> Haven't you seen the population density numbers?
> The lagging median household income numbers? The
> numbers of subdivisions of already under-sized
> lots? Then consider that decay can come from
> failure to keep up with one's neighbors, not just
> from events of actual decline. The bloom was
> already off the FCC rose 40 years ago. It won't
> be coming back again at this point. Quite the
> contrary in fact -- you'll just slowly slip into
> being Arlington Junior. What is Tinner Hill
> supposed to be? Mason Row? What's replacing the
> Burger King? What are plans for the Stratford
> these days? I'll tell you -- it's all more
> Ballston, but 30 years behind the times.

Yes, developers ALWAYS invest in decaying cities while paying a premium for the commercial real estate.

In short, you ain't got shit (as usual).

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 08, 2016 03:37PM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> Yet, you can't understand them and you appear to
> be a complete idiot!

Some judge you would make! Dumbass thinks apples and oil-derricks are comparable. Your tiny little dorf gets any notice at all only because some people are not able to grapple successfully with the Commonwealth's quirky legal system. There is otherwise nothing important or distinctive about Falls Church City. Brambleton would be more interesting.

> Yes, developers ALWAYS invest in decaying cities
> while paying a premium for the commercial real estate.

Like house-flippers, they buy crap in the hopes of developing the property and selling for a handsome profit.

> In short, you ain't got shit (as usual).

At least you've got all that envy and butthurt, eh? LOL!

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: TJ dad ()
Date: February 08, 2016 05:09PM

transplant 2 fairfax Wrote:
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> My SO and I are moving down to NoVA in about 2
> months. I have a 12 year old boy, I want him going
> to a good school. Which of those two areas have
> the better schools?


If your son isn't going to attend TJ then all of this debate is just a waste of time. Go ahead and get him a job application for one of the big box stores or Nova.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Niche school ()
Date: February 08, 2016 05:35PM

TJ is for those who have high-level interest and aptitude in STEM subjects. There are many other interests and aptitudes that people may have. TJ is of little use to those folks.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: schooliscool111 ()
Date: February 09, 2016 10:06AM

Any one with less illegals occupying the time and resources of the school.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Not how it works ()
Date: February 09, 2016 10:14AM

Your kids can be in an AP writing class while another kid works in ESOL. Assuming that FCPS itself is properly funded, there is no reason to expect that the two would be in resource competition with each other any more than history and social studies would be.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: how it actually works ()
Date: February 09, 2016 11:36AM

Not how it works Wrote:
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> Your kids can be in an AP writing class while
> another kid works in ESOL. Assuming that FCPS
> itself is properly funded, there is no reason to
> expect that the two would be in resource
> competition with each other any more than history
> and social studies would be.


You should learn how it works. There are certain requirements, some of which are imposed by the federal government, that ESOL needs to meet. There is no requirement to fund AP classes. Oh, and history is a component of social studies.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: the fox has spoken ()
Date: February 09, 2016 11:41AM

Crock of crap alert Wrote:
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> Some judge you would make!

An excellent one. I can spot a liar like you a mile away!

> Dumbass thinks apples
> and oil-derricks are comparable.

Again, you are the only one doing the comparing.

> Your tiny little
> dorf gets any notice at all only because some
> people are not able to grapple successfully with
> the Commonwealth's quirky legal system.

Or, because every single data point refutes your asinine assumption.

> There is
> otherwise nothing important or distinctive about
> Falls Church City.

Just the fact you can't afford it.

> Brambleton would be more
> interesting.

Go live there. Nobody will complain (except maybe the folks in Brambleton).

> Like house-flippers, they buy crap in the hopes of
> developing the property and selling for a handsome
> profit.

Except that's not what is going on.

Still waiting for you to produce the evidence that supports your claim.

What's the matter, too much of a pussy to post it?

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Not how it works ()
Date: February 09, 2016 12:20PM

how it actually works Wrote:
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> You should learn how it works. There are certain
> requirements, some of which are imposed by the
> federal government, that ESOL needs to meet.
> There is no requirement to fund AP classes.

Please post like a grown-up. One class does not compete against another for funding, and the presence of one student does not diminish the opportunities available to a different student. This is not a zero-sum game where one must rob Peter in order to pay Paul. Good teachers and good students will tend to have good outcomes. It doesn't matter what other class is going on down the hall.

> Oh, and history is a component of social studies.

Like Language Arts (e.g., AP Writing), Math, or Science, Social Studies is not a class at all, but a category of classes. It includes Anthropology, Current Affairs, Economics, History, Law, Philosophy, Political Science, Psychology, Sociology, and Religion, among other things. By definition, history and social studies cannot be in resource competition with each other any more than ESOL and AP Writing are.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: how it actually works ()
Date: February 09, 2016 12:54PM

Not how it works Wrote:
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> how it actually works Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You should learn how it works. There are
> certain
> > requirements, some of which are imposed by the
> > federal government, that ESOL needs to meet.
> > There is no requirement to fund AP classes.
>
> Please post like a grown-up.

If I thought I was communicating with one, I would. You come across as some sort of Pollyanish infant.

> One class does not
> compete against another for funding, and the
> presence of one student does not diminish the
> opportunities available to a different student.
> This is not a zero-sum game where one must rob
> Peter in order to pay Paul. Good teachers and
> good students will tend to have good outcomes. It
> doesn't matter what other class is going on down
> the hall.

There is a pot of money. Once you dig out the mandatory spending that is required by various programs such as ESOL, you are left with the rest. That leftover amount gets smaller and smaller as the mandatory spending increases.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Not how it works ()
Date: February 09, 2016 01:49PM

how it actually works Wrote:
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> If I thought I was communicating with one, I would. You
> come across as some sort of Pollyanish infant.

So pretend that I'm not.

> There is a pot of money. Once you dig out the
> mandatory spending that is required by various
> programs such as ESOL, you are left with the rest.
> That leftover amount gets smaller and smaller as
> the mandatory spending increases.

This is an example of a fourth-grade level of understanding. The fact that an ESOL class is going on in Room 126 does not diminish the quality of the AP Writing class going on in Room 104. There are and always have been schools within schools. Physics and metal shop students have each done well in the same building for a very long time. None of this is anything new. You don't like one of the schools today because there are foreigners in it, and everyone knows that foreigners have cooties.

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Re: Which areas have better schools? City of Falls Church or Vienna?
Posted by: Crock of crap alert ()
Date: February 09, 2016 07:49PM

the fox has spoken Wrote:
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> Again, you are the only one doing the comparing.

No, you worthless asshole. All of your pointless real estate data are comparisons of tiny little insignificant Falls Church City to great big important places such as Fairfax County. And as anyone with even a whiff of familiarity with statistics would know, such comparisons are entirely invalid. But out of simple desperation, you keep making them anyway.

> Or, because every single data point refutes your
> asinine assumption.

No, dipshit. It's is ONLY because some sources choose to classify Virginia's independent citties as if they were counties. It is a legal anomaly. 38 of the nation's 41 independent cities are in Virginia. The others are Baltimore, St. Louis, and Carson City. Falls Church is not comparable to any of those either. It is far more comparable to places like Poquoson or Martinsville. LOL!

> Go live there. Nobody will complain (except maybe
> the folks in Brambleton).

Well, I can afford to live anywhere I want but have long ago made, upgraded, and beautified my choice. Meanwhile, up-and-coming Brambleton -- with its lower population density, newer housing stock, and higher median household income -- would indeed be a much more interesting place than the dump you so lamely defend. But I've gone well beyond both of them, thank you very much.

> Except that's not what is going on.

Yes, it is. As you refuse to understand, Falls Chuech stood on a bad hand back in the day and now has to roll some very uncertain dice in desperate hopes of getting back in the game. Likely good money after bad, but either way, any notion of Falls Church ever re-emerging as some grassy SFH-driven suburban community is now long gone. 6,200 people per square mile and climbing tells the tale on that.

> Still waiting for you to produce the evidence that
> supports your claim.

I'll ask again: What is Tinner Hill supposed to be? Mason Row? What's replacing the Burger King? What are plans for the Stratford these days? I can answer that since you won't -- it's all more Ballston-wannabe citification, but 30 years behind the times. And a good bet to be much less successful as the result. The bottom line here is that your sorry little hamlet has been outdone and hemmed in by Ballston, Tysons, and now the Mosaic District and other Dunn Loring/Merrifield development. The present for FCC is bleak, and the future looks even darker.

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