These are all horrible events. I can add to your narrative about the 70s murders at the Arby's or Roy Rogers in Alexandria. One of the victims was (Gildea), who was the son of our high school football coach in Everett, Massachusetts in the 50s. I used to see the little guy run up and down the sidelines with his Dad (Denny Gildea) during the games.

I live in Alexandria and yesterday finished a book by a retired FBI agent Robert Ressler, called "Whoever Fights Monsters". He mentioned Monte Rissell, who I'd never heard of (I didn't grow up around here). In my research I ran across this http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94169 I know that tunnel well. People, especially hispanics, use it all the time, since the Giant is the only place on Beuregard that sells beer.

Interesting... I just happened upon this thread while bored and browsing the forum tonight. I'm sure that I know some of the people posting here. Alexandria was a much smaller place at the time and the kids at John Adams/Hammond/TC all pretty much knew one another.

Haven't thought about Montie for a long time. I also knew him very well. He was a pretty good friend back in our teenage years. Spent the night at his house quite a few times and often used to just ride around doing nothing with his sister Michelle and her boyfriend (don't recall his name) when we were younger. Later skipping school and smoking and drinking and generally getting into trouble. The whole group of us were kind of juvenile delinquents at the time. We used to mess around in that same tunnel where they later found one of his victims as it was on the way to/from his apartment. Also used to walk to Hammond along the same path mentioned earlier in the thread near Polk school where they found another.

Note that the yearbook scan posted earlier has the last column cut off so that the pictures don't match the name. Montie is to the far right in that row as you can recognize from the later picture from the time of his arrest.

To the person who said that nobody ever suspected Montie before his arrest, I know for sure that some did because I heard them myself. Wasn't based on anything other than just a feeling combined with the locations of some of the victims and knowing about the assault incident as a juvenile, but they guessed right.

That said, I understand why you might say that. I wouldn't have pointed to him first myself either. Even among the kids in the area there were many others who were way ahead of him as far as showing potential to be violent psychotics. In fact, it's always been a little disturbing to me how relatively normal Montie was. I'm sure there were signs as mentioned by some earlier in the thread but overall he was a fairly "normal" kid. Home life wasn't great, disfunctional single-parent family, drug use, etc., but that all applied to many of the rest of us as well.

Also interestingly, as I recall Breeden (the Roy Rogers killer) was in some way related to him although I don't remember exactly how now or whether it was by blood or marriage. I also kind of remember that both were in the same prison at one time.

Montee was not related to James Breeden in any form -they did live in the Southport Apts off of Beauergard Avenue but there wasnt any other connection. I knew the Breeden family well [ his son Kenny Langley [also known as Q-ball] was a close friend of mine] I also went to school with Montee and played baseball with him and as i said earlier people for the most part were surprised that anyone we knew was capable of serial killings ? -people always thought he was a little out there but nobody had him pegged as a mass murderer. On the other hand people were not surprised when Breeden was arrested for the Ropy Rogers killings as he had a long arrest history and had a hair trigger temper

Alexandria Guy.I'm SURE we know each other as everything you've mentioned is exactly what happened, we know the same people and I played baseball with him as well.Mean curve ball!!.He's where he needs to be. Any word on the book?

I knew Monti Rissell as a young kid. I was two or three years older than he was. He was small for his age, left-handed I believe, and had a slight lisp at the time. We lived only a few houses apart, he on Pinewood Terrace, one house away from Lakewood Drive, and I on Lakewood. There were a lot of kids around that block in the 1960s and we played together. Street football, "Spud", war games in the woods, a lot of outdoor stuff. We went to Belvedere Elementary on Columbia Pike. Monti and I did spend some time together, but mostly I was afraid of him as a kid. He was foul-mouthed and bad-tempered. He would sometimes go off on unpredictable and violent outbursts even when he was only 8 years old or so. He would tell distgusting and impossible stories about sex even at that age. He was the one kid in the neighborhood that my mother used to discourage me from playing with.

Monti and I got a little closer as we got older. He could be friendly and even vulnerable when he trusted you. For example, one time we were playing football at the school on a cold weekend and we were walking home afterwards. My hands were so cold I was starting to cry. Monti started crying too and begged me to wear his gloves so I would stop.

I spent the night at his house the weekend before he and his mom moved away from Falls Church. His sister had some company over as well. I remember watching his mother sitting in the living room that night, talking on the telephone, narrating with gusto an altercation with her husband about her leaving town with the kids. She said they were going to California. I don't know if they ever made it there. Monti was not happy about leaving. I don't remember him being angry about it, just sad. I learned later they came back to NoVa but I don't remember seeing Monti again after that night. He must have been about 10 or 11 years old, give or take a year or two, I don't remember exactly.

My family moved to a different house a couple years later. When Monti got arrested his name and picture were on the front page of the Washington Post. I'll always remember my mother handing the paper to me and saying, "There's a friend of yours in the paper today." I was shocked but I can't say I was surprised. It occurred to me at the time, and still today that that is what kids like Monti become when they grow up.

There's one in the making.


His name is eesh.

DC Gal Wrote:
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> the old yearbook pic doesnt look like a black kid,
> he looks phillipino or something.
> can someone confirm?

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FJ Wrote:
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> Note that the yearbook scan posted earlier has the
> last column cut off so that the pictures don't
> match the name.


I wasn't going to say anything, but then there was a 2nd person...


5th name down, 5th picture from the left. what is so confusing?!

Two Words: Bunny Man

Keith Gardnder was a mass murderer that killed his parents and 90 year old grandfather. I had the misfortune to know him. He was a spoiled, self-indulgent sociopath. Not clear why his brother would claim "he was a good kid" or why he didn't receive the death penalty. He blamed drug abuse. Most addicts don't murder their parents.

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Have you all heard of the killing of Donna Sue Oglesby? She was an FBI clerk from Oklahoma killed in her apartment at Skyhill Towers in Alexandria -- now called Carydale East.

Then there were similar killings in Alexandria, Potomac, and Bethesda. They are all unsolved.

http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=16918

i remember all those kids-- including the one in question-- i always hated the bastard

southport was off edsal rd-- i think-- the hamlets were off beauregard-- but i thought they lived in duchess gardens-- but that was a long time ago

How about this one...

Charles Francis "Charlie" Holober (June 5, 1908 - January 9, 2003) murdered his pregnant 37-year-old wife Frances Holober and June Holober, their 8-month old child, at the Green Forest Nudist Camp near Pender, Virginia on February 24, 1949.

Holober, the son of Isador Holober and Bertha Holober, was a 40-year-old Washington DC jewelry store clerk who had married Frances on December 22, 1947 when she told him she was pregnant by him.

In February of 1949, Frances told Holober that she was again pregnant and threatened to move in with Holober's parents. Holober devised a plan to kill her, and borrowed his sister's car. He put a shovel and a mattock in the trunk. The next day, he picked up his wife to take her out to the Green Forest nudist club he was a member of. There he shot his wife twice, but when his Luger pistol jammed, he chose to bury his daughter alive.

However, the car Holober had borrowed became enmired when Holober tried to leave, and Holober was forced to spend the night at the site. The next day he hitched a ride to Falls Church and from there took a bus into Washington, where he arranged to have his sister's car towed. He also informed the police of his wife's disappearance, saying she had walked off following an argument.

After the bodies of his wife and child were found, Detectives arrested Holober at his house in Washington. He was indicted, and was sent to the Southwestern State Mental Hospital at Marion, Virginia for observation. Found sane, he was returned for trial to Fairfax County. He was convicted and sentenced to death on January 13, 1950. This conviction was overturned in February, 1951.

Holober was instead committed to the Southwestern State Mental Hospital. Following a bench trial conducted in 1966, again before Judge Paul E. Brown, Holober was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

Following further treatment, Charles F. Holober was released in August, 1968.

Open

I have you now.

open sesame

I have you now.

I grew up around the Monte Rissell killing area. Lived in the Hamlets and remember those days well. Monte used to say hi to me by name when he saw me, and I always remember wondering who he was. I used to hang out at the gas station on Licolnia with others. Monte dropped his car off their, and after he left the cops showed up and wanted the keys to look in his trunk. Any of you remember John Black, Jeff Packard, Ralph Yost, Casey O'neil, John Kearney, Jack Coogan, and dozens more? Alexandria was a great place back then

I killed a whole box of Captin Crunch when I was 17.

OMG...it has been well over a year since I came on this site and in reading Jack Preble's post I am freaking out. :-) Not in a bad way at all. I remember a few of the guys you listed. I was really good friends with John Kearney's sister, Eileen. I know this isn't about people coming on here talking about their past, their friends and the old "neighborhood", but how the hell can we not do so when that area is a part of our roots. :-) And unfortunately knowing Montie is a part of my past also. I need to keep reading as there was a few others who asked me to respond to them and I need to get their info and do so. Needless to say Montie is right where he needs to be. I feel really bad for his sister Michelle. I just don't think her mom treated very well.

Nothing like a good Christmas story.

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> Have you all heard of the killing of Donna Sue
> Oglesby? She was an FBI clerk from Oklahoma killed
> in her apartment at Skyhill Towers in Alexandria
> -- now called Carydale East.
>
> Then there were similar killings in Alexandria,
> Potomac, and Bethesda. They are all unsolved.
>
> http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php
> ?t=16918


The Oglesby case is NOT related to the Bethesda cases. The Bethesda cases were closed in 2009 with a DNA match. Ogelsby was killed by someone else.

Steve M Wrote:
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> I knew Monti Rissell as a young kid. I was two or
> three years older than he was. He was small for
> his age, left-handed I believe, and had a slight
> lisp at the time. We lived only a few houses
> apart, he on Pinewood Terrace, one house away from
> Lakewood Drive, and I on Lakewood. There were a
> lot of kids around that block in the 1960s and we
> played together. Street football, "Spud", war
> games in the woods, a lot of outdoor stuff. We
> went to Belvedere Elementary on Columbia Pike.
> Monti and I did spend some time together, but
> mostly I was afraid of him as a kid. He was
> foul-mouthed and bad-tempered. He would sometimes
> go off on unpredictable and violent outbursts even
> when he was only 8 years old or so. He would tell
> distgusting and impossible stories about sex even
> at that age. He was the one kid in the
> neighborhood that my mother used to discourage me
> from playing with.
>
> Monti and I got a little closer as we got older.
> He could be friendly and even vulnerable when he
> trusted you. For example, one time we were
> playing football at the school on a cold weekend
> and we were walking home afterwards. My hands
> were so cold I was starting to cry. Monti started
> crying too and begged me to wear his gloves so I
> would stop.
>
> I spent the night at his house the weekend before
> he and his mom moved away from Falls Church. His
> sister had some company over as well. I remember
> watching his mother sitting in the living room
> that night, talking on the telephone, narrating
> with gusto an altercation with her husband about
> her leaving town with the kids. She said they
> were going to California. I don't know if they
> ever made it there. Monti was not happy about
> leaving. I don't remember him being angry about
> it, just sad. I learned later they came back to
> NoVa but I don't remember seeing Monti again after
> that night. He must have been about 10 or 11
> years old, give or take a year or two, I don't
> remember exactly.
>
> My family moved to a different house a couple
> years later. When Monti got arrested his name and
> picture were on the front page of the Washington
> Post. I'll always remember my mother handing the
> paper to me and saying, "There's a friend of yours
> in the paper today." I was shocked but I can't
> say I was surprised. It occurred to me at the
> time, and still today that that is what kids like
> Monti become when they grow up.

My family lived on Pinewood terrace from 1978-80 - was Monti there then?

Reader Girl -he was in prison at that point -i went to school with Monte and graduated in 1977 -shortly before graduation he was cahrged with the murders - at the time of his arrest Montee lived in some Garden Style apartments of of Bueregard Street in Alexandria

That's right, Montie would have been gone by then. I have been thinking about this since I posted my message. I believe he moved out in early 1971, and if he was in the HS class of 1977, that means he was probably 12 the last time I saw him.

Checking google maps, their house number was 3806 Pinewood, one house away from the corner at Lakewood Dr.

I did not follow all of the details of the case when it was current news even though I grew up with Montie, but I have been reading about it lately, and about him after I knew him. His teenage behavior was consistent with character I saw from him when he was younger, just older and therfore more able to do damage. Whatever was wrong with him was wrong even as early as second grade, which is when he moved into my neighborhood. It wasn't just me, all the kids in our neighborhood knew he was dangerous.

Wouldn't that be the guy who keeps hiring illegals for construction work and then murdering them after the job? The cops are always congregating somewhere lights running and stopping traffic to investigate them.

I was a friend of Monte's; in '76 I lived one building away from him on Beauregard. We couldn't believe that he was guilty. He'd call and say he was coming over and then when we opened the door without checking who it was, he'd chide us about not being more careful "with all the murders taking place". There is some question about Jim Breeden's guilt; there was an article in Washingtonian magazine several years ago, maybe 10 or more which cast a good bit of doubt on it.

moonshine Wrote:
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> Have you all heard of the killing of Donna Sue
> Oglesby? She was an FBI clerk from Oklahoma killed
> in her apartment at Skyhill Towers in Alexandria
> -- now called Carydale East.
>
> Then there were similar killings in Alexandria,
> Potomac, and Bethesda. They are all unsolved.
>
> http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php
> ?t=16918


Cold case - FBI clerk’s 1970 murder by scissors remains unsolved
http://washingtonexaminer.com/cold-case-fbi-clerks-1970-murder-by-scissors-remains-unsolved/article/22865

Nearly 40 years have passed since authorities found the naked body of a young woman who’d been killed with a pair of scissors in her high-rise Alexandria apartment.

The body found in early 1970 was that of Donna Sue Oglesby, an 18-year-old from the town of Poteau, Okla. She had been stabbed and slashed across the throat and chest.

With no witnesses and few leads for investigators to follow, Oglesby’s case remains unsolved.

At the time, the slaying was thought to be linked with two others that occurred in the Washington area within 16 days of Oglesby’s death.

On Jan. 18, 1970, 14-year-old Sherry Bristol Kennedy was found dead near a ditch under a bridge in Montgomery County, with an ice pick through her head. She, too, had been stabbed and cut. Ten days later, 33-year-old high school teacher Catharine Kalberer was found dead in a neighbor’s car outside of her Bethesda apartment, stabbed with a kitchen knife more than 100 times. Five days after that, Oglesby was slain.

All three victims were found within a mile of the Beltway; and all three were blond.

Oglesby had come to the Washington area to work as an FBI clerk after recruiters visited her high school searching for young women to do office work near the bureau’s headquarters. A co-worker once described Oglesby as outgoing, vivacious and a partygoer.

After her death, FBI agents took up the hunt for her killer.
Oglesby was one of two girls from her 96-member 1969 graduating class to make the more than 1,000-mile trek to the nation’s capital.

“It was the first time they were ever away from home,” the father of the Poteau girl who accompanied Oglesby to D.C. told the Washington Post News Service. “A fella can’t keep from worrying when you read about things happening in Washington.”

Oglesby was an active member of the Poteau Assembly of God Church, where her grandfather was a minister. A member of the congregation told the news service: “We used to pray for her there in Washington.”

Her case — and the two others — remain open. Anyone with information is asked to call the FBI at 703-686-6000.

Are you talking about Monty Rissell? I went to school with him and he was caught in Alexandria

Monte Rissell, a serial killer whose committed his first murder on the day he saw his ex-girlfriend with another man. A young man with several convictions for aggressive crimes, including burglary, on his record, Rissell was nineteen at the time. The girlfriend had just broken up with him via letter, and the reality of the break-up hit Rissell when he drove up to her college and spotted her with her new boyfriend. But instead of taking his anger out on her, he drove back home to Alexandria, VA. There, sitting in his car in the parking lot of his apartment complex, he steamed, drinking and getting high.

When he saw an unaccompanied woman pull into the lot, the fantasy kicked in-and he was just emboldened enough by his anger and inebriation to act on it. What he didn't know at first was that she was a prostitute, a sick coincidence given that prostitutes are victims of choice for many serial killers.

Rissell told us he was shocked when the woman tried to defuse the situation by making the sex act seem enjoyable, by trying to make him feel good. It just made him madder, and he ultimately killed her. He chased her, and they fell down a ravine, where he bashed her head against a rock and held her head under water until she drowned.

Rissell had gotten the first one out of the way, and his inhibitions were gone. He killed five women before he was caught.

I'm glad that piece of shit Rissell remains exactly where he belongs - locked away from civilized society. Hopefully he has been repaid for his deeds numerous times. Incarcerated rapists are pussy on the hoof in the prison system.

Anyone remember the freeway phantom killer?

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> Anyone remember the freeway phantom killer?

Wow, never heard of that one until you posted it. I found it pretty easily on Wikipedia...

"Freeway Phantom"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeway_Phantom

"Freeway Phantom" was the name given to an unidentified serial killer known to have abducted, raped and strangled six female youths in Washington, D.C. from April 1971 through September 1972. The victims were all African-American girls between the ages of 10 and 18.

Murders [edit]On the evening of April 25, 1971, 13-year old Carol Spinks was sent by an older sister to buy groceries at a 7-Eleven located a half-mile away from her home, just across the border in Maryland. On her way home from the store, Carol was abducted; her body was found six days later on a grassy embankment next to the northbound lanes of I-295, about 1,500 feet south of Suitland Parkway.

Over a month later, on July 8, 1971, Darlenia Johnson, 16, was abducted while en route to her summer job at a recreation center. Eleven days later, her body was discovered a mere 15 feet from where Spinks was found.

On July 27, 1971, 10-year old Brenda Crockett failed to return home after having been sent to the store by her mother. Three hours after Brenda was last seen, the phone rang and was answered by her 7-year old sister, who had waited at home while her family searched the neighborhood. Brenda was on the other line, crying.

"A white man picked me up, and I'm heading home in a cab," Brenda told her sister, adding that she believed she was in Virginia before abruptly saying "Bye" and hanging up.

A short time later, the phone rang again and was this time answered by the boyfriend of Brenda's mother. It was Brenda again, and she merely repeated what she'd said in the last telephone call, indicating she was alone in a house with a white male. The boyfriend asked Brenda to have the man come to the phone. Heavy footsteps were heard in the background. Brenda said "I'll see you" and hung up. A few hours later, a hitchhiker discovered Brenda's body in a conspicuous location on Route 50, near I-295 in Prince George's County, Maryland. She had been raped and strangled, and a scarf was knotted around her neck.

Authorities quickly concluded that Brenda likely called her home at the behest of the killer, who fed her inaccurate information in order to buy the necessary time to perpetrate the crime, and to hamper investigation. Furthermore, one witness reported having seen one of the victims, Ms. Johnson, in an old black car, driven by an African-American male, shortly after her abduction.

12-year old Nenomoshia Yates was walking home from a Safeway store in Northeast Washington, D.C. on October 1, 1971, when she was kidnapped, raped, and strangled. Her body was found within a few hours of her abduction, just off the shoulder of Pennsylvania Avenue in Prince George's County, Maryland. It is after this murder that the "Freeway Phantom" moniker was first used in city tabloid article describing the murders.

After having dinner with a high school classmate on November 15, 1971, Brenda Woodward, 18, boarded a city bus to return to her Maryland Avenue home. Approximately six hours later, a police officer discovered her body, stabbed and strangled, in a grassy area near an access ramp to Route 202 from the Baltimore–Washington Parkway. A coat had been placed over her chest, and one of its pockets contained a note from the killer:

This is tantamount to my insensititivity [sic] to people especially women.
I will admit the others when you catch me if you can!

Free-way Phantom

Authorities surmised that the note, written on paper cut from the victim's school notebook, was dictated to and handwritten by her.

The Phantom's final victim was claimed almost a year later, on September 5, 1972. 17-year old Ballou High School senior Diane Williams cooked dinner for her family and then visited her boyfriend's house. She was last seen alive boarding a bus. A short time later, her strangled body was discovered dumped alongside I-295, just south of the District line.

Investigation and Evidence [edit]The Freeway Phantom case has seen numerous investigators and interest over the years. Numerous investigative tips came from the general public by a telephone hot line operated by the Metropolitan Police Department, and the U.S. Mail, and all leads were investigated to their logical conclusion. Some leads were easily proven not to be viable, and others required substantial investigation. The investigation was conducted by a law enforcement task force that included Detectives from the Metropolitan Police Department Homicide and Sex Squads, investigators from Prince Georges County and Montgomery County, MD, Maryland State Police, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

Among those individuals investigated, members of a gang known as the Green Vega Rapists were considered. Those gang members were collectively responsible for numerous Washington D.C. and surrounding Maryland vicinity rapes and abductions that occurred near the Washington Beltway. Logical investigation and intimate knowledge of the modus operandi of the Green Vega Gang brought them forefront. The Green Vega Gang members were individually interviewed by M.P.D.C. Homicide Detectives Fickling, Irving, and Richardson, at Lorton Prison, Lorton, VA, where the gang members were serving sentences in conjunction with successful prosecutions of those crimes in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. During the interviews of the Green Vega Gang members, one gang member initially implicated another gang member, who he said told him he was involved and gave information as to a beltway homicide. The implicated inmate was also serving a sentence at Lorton for the Green Vega convictions. The inmate stipulated that he would provide the information only if he could remain unidentified, which was agreed. He identified the inmate who gave him the information, the date and location of the crime, and signature detail which was not provided to the public, but which was known to the perpetrator, and to detectives. That signature information was correct. The inmate who provided the information said he was not involved in the Homicide, and provided an alibi which was found to be true. During this period, an election was being held in Maryland, and one of the candidates publicly announced to the press, that a break had occurred in the Freeway Phantom investigation, and provided that an inmate at Lorton Prison had given the information. After that announcement, the inmate who provided the information declined any further interviews, and denied that he had ever provided any information.

Unfortunately, common practice at the time was that case files at Metropolitan Police Department Detective Divisions were retained in files maintained by the Detectives assigned to the case. As a result, the Freeway Phantom case files have been lost, along with the associated notes, and all investigators assigned as primary or task force have either long retired, or are deceased.

Ultimately, no investigative lead produced sufficient evidence for prosecution. However, interest in these serial killings has never faded, and this case is open as a cold case in the Metropolitan Police Department Homicide Division.

Suspect [edit]In March, 1977, a 58-year old computer technician, Robert Elwood Askins, was charged with abducting and raping a 24-year old woman inside his Washington, D.C. home. Homicide detective Lloyd Davis proceeded to question Askins and learned that he had been charged with murder on several previous occasions.

On December 28, 1938, Askins—then a 19-year old student and member of the science club at Miner Teachers College—served cyanide-laced whiskey to five prostitutes at a brothel, resulting in the death of 31-year old Ruth McDonald. On December 30, only two days later, he stabbed to death another prostitute, 26-year old Elizabeth Johnson, at the same location. Upon his arrest, Askins declared to police that he was a "woman hater" and was placed under mental observation at Washington, D.C.'s Gallinger Hospital. While there, he broke free of his restraints and assaulted three orderlies with a chair before being subdued. During his trial, it was revealed that he'd been a police informant, aiding law enforcement in the arrests of prostitutes. In April 1939, Askins was found criminally insane and committed to St. Elizabeths Hospital.

Five months after being released in April, 1952, Askins strangled 42-year old Laura Cook to death. He was indicted for this murder in 1954, accused of several other assaults of similar circumstance, and re-tried for the 1938 murder, it having been determined that he was indeed sane upon committing the act. Despite claiming he intended the cyanide for himself, planning suicide, he was convicted of second-degree murder and sentenced to twenty years to life. This conviction was overturned in 1958.

After the 1978 rape charge, Askins' home was searched by police in connection with the Freeway Phantom murders. Court documents were found in a desk drawer in which a judge had used the word "tantamount," an uncommon word that had appeared in the note dictated by the killer of Brenda Woodward. Furthermore, colleagues at the National Science Foundation where Askins was employed reported that "tantamount" was a word that frequently cropped up in his speech.

A search warrant was eventually obtained, and investigators dug through Askins' backyard. No physical evidence was obtained and Askins was not charged in connection with the Freeway Phantom killings.

Askins, who died at the Federal Correctional Institution in Cumberland, Maryland at the age of 91, remained in prison for two D.C.-area abductions and rapes in the mid-70s, and had been contacted by both Davis and press regarding the Freeway Phantom slayings. He denied any role in them, adding that he did not have "the depravity of mind required to commit any of the crimes."

Does anyone know where the rissel murders happend or where like the bodies were discovered. i have recently learned about this and just want more overall details of where all this took place

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Does anyone else remember Montie from his Falls Church days? Would have been when he lived on Pinewood Terrace from 1967-1972 or thereabout. He attended Belvedere Elementary School from 2nd through 6th grade or so.

In Fairfax their not called serial killers, their called repeat Drunk Drivers.

Steve,

Was Montie close to his brother or sister back then?

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> In Fairfax their not called serial killers, their
> called repeat Drunk Drivers.

"Their" also called repeat Bad Spellers.

Try "they're", contraction of They are.

Arthur Goode approached me late one afternoon in the parking lot of the Montgomery Wards that used to be located on Arlington Blvd. in Falls Church. I was buying stamps at the post office kiosk that used to be there and he came up to me and asked how to get to Route 7. I noticed he had a young boy with him and I thought that was kind of strange, but the boy acted normal. Anyway, I gave him directions and that was that.

The next day I saw his picture in the paper and was stunned to discover who he was. I still feel guilty I didn't ask the boy if he was all right (I'm female) but I was very young and inexperienced and totally nonconfrontational in those days.

Bump :)

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Re: Montie being close to his brother and sister, I don't recall his brother much except he stole my football and wrote his name all over it in magic marker. Ticked me off and I stole it back, but he came to my house when I was not home and my mother gave it back to him.

Michelle was closer in age and she was more involved with Montie as I recall. Anyway she and I knew each other but I did not know the brother well and in fact I am drawing a blank on his name now. Harold? Michelle was always around and was closer to Montie I'm sure.

Last photo is jim carrey.

Fixing my "posted by" name...darn tablet.

In virginia their not called serial Killers, their called Drunk Drivers and they murder about 400 people a year here.

Yes...ME...MIKE O'MEARA

I been killing the airwaves for 25+ years...
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Mike O Meara Wrote:
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> I been killing the airwaves for 25+ years...

...And the chairs he sits in.

Mike O Meara fan Wrote:
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> > Yes...ME...MIKE O'MEARA
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> > I been killing the airwaves for 25+ years...
>
> ...And the chairs he sits in.


I've been killing this hot young thing for 5 years...

BOO YEAH
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Well, Hussein Obama is close to NOVA, I think DC counts. Hussein Obama is a serial killer.

Minnie, Loretta and Catherine Ridgeway: March 1927
http://virginiaghosts.com/bunnyman.php

The available newspapers record many murders, but few shocked Fairfax like the ferocious and senseless attack on Mrs. Minnie Ridgeway and her two young daughters. Mrs. Ridgeway lived with her husband and three children on Telegraph Road in Alexandria. Sometime on the morning of March 4, 1927, a man later identified as Louis Boersig called at the home on the pretext of seeing Mr. Ridgeway. Upon finding that he was not at home, Boersig attacked and beat Minnie Ridgeway into unconsciousness and then likewise bludgeoned her daughters Loretta, 7, and Catherine, 5. He then stole money from the home and fled.

The crime was discovered by a neighbor who heard moans coming from inside the house. All three victims were taken to Alexandria Hospital, where Loretta later died. Catherine Ridgeway lived another eight days before succumbing to her injuries. Minnie recovered and was able to identify the assailant, who was known to the Ridgeways. Boersig was arrested at his home and transferred to the jail in Winchester for his safety.

Louis Boersig was executed for the murders of Loretta and Catherine Ridgeway on July 7, 1927, just three months after his horrific crime.

Well, there have been stories of a local contractor....

Bumping this message up. No one on this thread remembers Montie Rissell when he lived on Pinewood Terrace?

there have been plenty of black serial killers in the area - who killed, robbed, raped, and held up banks. and it is still happening. and not less - more

and you know it

article obviously written by a nigga

hoping to find any dirt on white people he can

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planned poverty (from top down) which causes marriages to break apart (and wars) can be thought of as a serial murder

this is why i don't move to detroit city, or atlanta, or any of the growing number of cities controlled by NAACP. once they sue and get in, it's a turf war of firings, and they control the city, corruptly. no surpluses: billions in debt

yes and why is fairfax subsidizing that? for mcmansions in MD and casinos maybe?

you keep your ways. i'll keep my ways

they don't mix

who are the women missing now, and where are they from/vanished from?

Police think they have the guy that shot three people in the Alexandria area at random....Charles Severence. He would knock on a door, fire, and then flee. He was tied up in Wheeling, WV for months on an extradition matter and is also wanted in Loudoun County on gun charges.

Take this as you wish, 8 years ago I took to Guatemalan trip of a lifetime and was having intense psychic visions for months. The worst was that of a black male, thin/medium build, late 20's to mid-thirties, who appeared to be from the islands. He was terrifying, stalking, veering and preying. This image did not leave my mind for years.
I don't expect anybody to believe me on this but, he looked exactly like the police composite of the Morgan Harrington suspected killer.

Does anyone know if any of the Montie Rissells victims had children? I feel like some of these women were old enough to have had children. If so, how they must be today. I feel for the familes left behind. Would love to know more.

Please, anyone who has posted here about Montie Rissell who lived near him and the his victims, please private message me. Very important. I will explain if and when you message me.

Thanks

the legal people in fx co (fx co gov and courts and lawyers and police)

they stalk people to death, giving them as long false legal histories as possible, trying to intract illegal reaction by them, offer frustrating family services that wreck families: they then steal their cars and or auction their home when everyone is dead or in prison or dumb enough not to realize fx co owes them allot of money

yes. niggers and spics too many to name.

continual armed robberies and break-ins in the area since they arrives

also continual murders

That link says he is in the Pocahontas Correctional Facility.

To DBMG - I knew Montee from 9TH grade until he was sentenced -played baseball with him and lived a couple miles away - we had several mutual friends but I was never a real close friend -the night they found one of the bodies we were playing basketball about 200 yards from grave -if I remember correctly none of his victims had children but not totally sure about that -he was jailed about 30 days before we graduated from TC Williams in 1977

Alex resident Wrote:
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> To DBMG - I knew Montee from 9TH grade until he
> was sentenced -played baseball with him and lived
> a couple miles away - we had several mutual
> friends but I was never a real close friend -the
> night they found one of the bodies we were playing
> basketball about 200 yards from grave -if I
> remember correctly none of his victims had
> children but not totally sure about that -he was
> jailed about 30 days before we graduated from TC
> Williams in 1977


Wow, he was just acting normally, not nervous at all?!

As I said before we were not extremely close so I don't know if he was nervous or not - he was a bit strange to begin with but nobody in the group I hung out with pegged him as a serial killer - he actually dated a girl that I knew well and she looks back on these whole situation and didn't think he was capable of murder either - I guess you never know ?

does the current president count?

I used to babysit for Rosie Gordon. There was speculation that she was killed by Otis Toole, the guy who killed Adam Walsh. It is still an unsolved case. She was a sweet kid and that area of Lake Braddock was just devastated. RIP Rosie.

I was good friends with Monte for several years. He lived in Saxony Square with his mom and sister. Nobody could have pegged him as a killer at least when I knew him.

Thankfully, Mr. Prieto is awaiting his turn in the fryer...

Alexandria Va "Front Door Serial Shooter"

http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/2014/03/12/dna-kirby-case-alexandria-serial-killer/6343415/

the idea behind bringing him to va was justice for Rachel and Warren's families...this was Bob Horan's last case, and, in capital cases, he operated on the slogan, "5 years trial to tomb"...I was a juror in his first trial...quite the ordeal

I think the answer is yes. The guys name is Torres. He used to be a cop in Fairfax County until he got too hot. His bosses like him killing people until he attracted too much attention.

I just watched the film "The Butterfly Effect" from 2004. In the movie, the brother of the lead female character is a sadistic sociopath. He reminds me of Montie Rissell when I knew Montie as a kid.

I lived in the west end of Alexandria on Beauregard st with my sister. She had Montie as a classmate in the 7th grade and most likely the sixth grade. In 1972 there seemed to be more problems in the neighborhood with theft and even a few car thefts. Montie had a pack of "friends" that seemed to be at the epicenter of trouble.There was a kid named Mark, another Robbie, a girl Andrea and one other kid I did not get the name of.

I came back from a class at the community college and found our apartment had been broken into. I was missing a stereo cassette recorder, some money, and some records. When my sister got home she was missing some items. Later my mom came back from work and she was missing some items from her jewelry box. So I headed out the door and found Robbie. I pinned him down and was going to beat the crap out of him if he did not give me the information. Yup - It was Montie. My mother called Montie's mom and told her to get him down to the apartment with what he had stolen. She did show up with Montie and basically told my mom Montie did not have to return the goods. My Mother was a former Army Officer and she spun up into high gear. So Montie's mom tells him to go back to the car. I went through the patio door and followed him to the car. I saw my recorder on the car seat and pushed Montie away. I yelled to my sister to come to the car. We got everything leaving Montie who was making threats and cursing. Mom was still having words with the Ms. when we told her we had got everything stolen from the car. At that point Ms. Rissell told us she was calling the police, which my mom's reply was fine. The police never showed up. But several months later there was a small gunshot hole in our patio entrance glass. We did not see it happen and by the time we did see it, my mother had run the vacuum a number of times. The police thought it was a fairly high powered BB. Looking back it is too bad my Mom had not called the police when Montie broke in. It would have been one more on his record.

Montie did get the crap kicked out of him not that may months later. We live (my sister and I) in three story garden apartment buildings, with a firs floor or basement passage way with storage units. Montie tried to attack (and most likely rpe) a girl my sister know. She was not attractive, and was quite strong. Montie had followed her into the end of her building. He did not get to far as she kicked and punched the crap of of him and went for a number of groin kicks. She did tell us about it and Montie was walking funny for about a week. That was probably more coal poured on to his hate of women fire.

I have long suspected that Montie raped a couple of girls living over on the other side of Beauregard. That was just across the creek from where he lived, and where he killed on victim. There was one girl who my sister somewhat knew who was a skinny kid, suddenly began to gain weight. We did not hear what happened to her and her sister would only say she was living with someone else.

I will talk with my sister and post again. There is a lot more we both know.

Bill A. that is really fucked up, you must feel lucky as it could have been worst.

Please share more when you can, thanks.

Stones Wrote:
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> Rosie Gordon in 1987? She was a little girl who
> was killed and found dead in Burke. I think she
> was abducted walking to school. They thought that
> Melissa Brannen's killer could be the same guy.
> Also, maybe those sisters in Spotsylvania and m/b
> the Route 29 stalker/killer as some more recent
> attacks. I'm pretty sure he was never caught and
> even if the Rosie Gordon killer was only
> responsible for that death, he for sure would have
> also killed elsewhere. It was a kiddie rape/kill
> so she doesn't tell thing and those guys always
> attack more than once.


Wasn't that the girl who was murdered at the corner of Burke Road and Lake Braddock Drive?

Is it possible that Richard Marc Evonitz was near Lake Braddock Highschool area in 1987? I had an unnerving experience with a man in a foreign made vehicle, he was wearing those opalescent oakley's so I couldn't get a good look at his eyes. It was so long ago I can't remember if it was a "85 honda I am certain it was a Japanese made sports vehicle. It was either white or a metallic blue color. I wasn't paying attention to the vehicle because I didn't take my eyes off that guys face. If he got out of that car I was going to bolt. I saw his picture on the internet and Evonitz looks a lot like the man.

Lock them up.

Bill A Wrote:
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> I have long suspected that Montie raped a couple
> of girls living over on the other side of
> Beauregard. That was just across the creek from
> where he lived, and where he killed on victim.
> There was one girl who my sister somewhat knew who
> was a skinny kid, suddenly began to gain weight.
> We did not hear what happened to her and her
> sister would only say she was living with someone
> else.

I started watching "Mindhunter" over the weekend, a new Netflix show that came out 2 weeks ago. It's about the FBI agents in the 1970s who started the bureau's research into the behavior of serial murderers.

One of the early episodes involves this Monte Rissell guy, there are scenes where they actually go to the prison and interview him. In the show they said he was from Falls Church. They portrayed him as some young, cocky fuck up. It's a fictional 'cop show' but holy shit, I never knew about this.

Bill Tench Wrote:
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> Bill A Wrote:
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> > I have long suspected that Montie raped a
> couple
> > of girls living over on the other side of
> > Beauregard. That was just across the creek from
> > where he lived, and where he killed on victim.
> > There was one girl who my sister somewhat knew
> who
> > was a skinny kid, suddenly began to gain
> weight.
> > We did not hear what happened to her and her
> > sister would only say she was living with
> someone
> > else.
>
> I started watching "Mindhunter" over the weekend,
> a new Netflix show that came out 2 weeks ago.
> It's about the FBI agents in the 1970s who started
> the bureau's research into the behavior of serial
> murderers.
>
> One of the early episodes involves this Monte
> Rissell guy, there are scenes where they actually
> go to the prison and interview him. In the show
> they said he was from Falls Church. They
> portrayed him as some young, cocky fuck up. It's
> a fictional 'cop show' but holy shit, I never knew
> about this.

I'm Ford...he's Tench. Hey Bill, I forgot the projector again. Will you go back in and grab it for me? I'll move your golf clubs and make room in the trunk. We need to hustle back to Charlottesville...Debbie just called and said if I finger her pussy, she'll give me a blow job. It's completely unbelievable that a chick that hot would ever want to bone a Fed.

Overall, a solid show. It reminds me of "Se7en" mixed with a grittier "Silence of the Lambs". If you want to know about the darkness of the human soul, see some extremely violent crime scene photos and watch 2 G-Men drive around in malaise-era sedans listening to obscure 70's rock...then I highly recommend this show.

Holden.Ford Wrote:
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> Overall, a solid show. It reminds me of "Se7en"
> mixed with a grittier "Silence of the Lambs". If
> you want to know about the darkness of the human
> soul, see some extremely violent crime scene
> photos and watch 2 G-Men drive around in
> malaise-era sedans listening to obscure 70's
> rock...then I highly recommend this show.

I like it. I read a book about the BTK Killer last year and immediately recognized this show’s cold openings with the nerdy ADT security guy. Was shocked to know that a real serial rapist/murder happened here in FFX.

i’m not big classic rock fan either but the show does have a good soundtrack too.

70 yr old women Wrote:
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> There is still the unsolved murders of the three
> (aged 70) women residing near Springfield /
> Annandale. The first two that were murdered in
> their homes months apart had been to different
> Giant Food Stores in the mid morning.
>
> These women lived alone & police assumed that each
> must have known the perp./murderer because there
> wasn't a forced entry.
>
> The 3rd woman that was murdered a year later, had
> a very unique ring stolen.
> If the same person killed all three women, he
> would be a serial killer.
>
> He tended to target women in their seventies.
> Does anyone else recall the details?
>
>
> Fairfax County Police Department
> Public Information Office
> 4100 Chain Bridge Road, Fairfax, Va. 22030
> 703-246-2253. TTY 703-204-2264. Fax 703-246-4253
> FCPD-PIO@fairfaxcounty.gov
> www.fairfaxcounty.gov
> News Release:

I'm like 94% sure I know who did this...the Marion murders. I submitted a tip years ago...even got interviewed about 7 years ago. His name starts with an A and he was found shortly after. Police know who he is. He's in jail for a property crime shortly after and probably still. My guess is they just never had enough evidence but knownhe was in jail and not a threat any longer.

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> Yeah, the Marion Newman and Marion somebody else.
> My wife used to be one of their neighbors. Older
> women who lived alone. The means of death has
> never exactly been released and is just "upper
> body trauma". I guess they are keeping this
> secret and it's something only the killer would
> know. I was actually interviewed by the
> detectives. I work with someone who was a suspect
> at one point but I knew he was not responsible.
> There was another guy who lived in the area and
> was later found squatting in an abandoned house
> less than a mile from where they were both last
> seen (Bradlick shopping center in Annandale).
> This guy had broken into a bunch of houses in the
> area and had Mental Health issues. I reported it
> to the tip line but obviously, if it was him,
> these cases wouldn't still be open. Still though,
> maybe. He's in jail now for the break-ins.

Oh shit, I already replied. 6 years ago :)

Bill Tench Wrote:
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> Holden.Ford Wrote:
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> > Overall, a solid show. It reminds me of "Se7en"
> > mixed with a grittier "Silence of the Lambs".
> If
> > you want to know about the darkness of the
> human
> > soul, see some extremely violent crime scene
> > photos and watch 2 G-Men drive around in
> > malaise-era sedans listening to obscure 70's
> > rock...then I highly recommend this show.
>
> I like it. I read a book about the BTK Killer
> last year and immediately recognized this show’s
> cold openings with the nerdy ADT security guy.
> Was shocked to know that a real serial
> rapist/murder happened here in FFX.
>
> i’m not big classic rock fan either but the show
> does have a good soundtrack too.

I like classic rock...but the deep cuts. 40 fucking years now and the world still thinks "Stairway" is Zeppelin's best work. It's just not. Meanwhile I've been holding "Achilles Last Stand" in one hand and "Ten Years Gone" in the other. Nobody wants to listen to me.

My only complaint of "Mindhunter" is that sometimes they go for the shock value and it just really cheapens things...

Debbie's line which I mentioned above...Oh look! Super hot 70's chick talking filthy while getting fucked!

The very first scene when the dude blows his head off. Important that we see Holden's frustrations in his final days as a negotiator...unnecessary to see the graphicness of the death. It could've happened off-screen and we still would'be been shocked by its abruptness. This is 2017 not 1957 so, we're going to see that and no doubt a lot more worse as we are further desensitized throughout the show.

The revelation that Wendy is a lesbian. Yawn...whatever...not germane...

The way the crime scene photos are just sprung on viewers for maximum effect...Hey, Bill you need a light? So, I'm sitting here in the office last week and I get a call about a mother and her infant son...murdered and bloodily sodomized...BOOM! 8 seconds to the most jarring images I've ever seen. Yes, I am shocked...it's still a cheap parlor trick.

Thoughts?

Monte Rissell ~ We went to T.C. Williams together. He was a senior in early 1976 and I was a junior (graduated in 1978). Then one day in late fall, he wasn't in class any more but on the news.
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11 different girls aged 4-9 have been abducted and missing, throughout Fairfax County, from 1986-2012, with very similar traits. Remember Rosie Gordon?

I was in prison but I remember circa 1990-1992, there was a serial killer that strangled women and he left a credit card receipt in one of the plastic grocery bags.
Was I hallucinating or did something like this happen??

There was a serial killer in ffx county that killed prostitutes in 1990-1992.
Was a guy in his 20’s that would use plastic grocery bags to suffocate the women. He finally got caught bc the credit card receipt was in the bag. Does anyone know what I’m talking about?
Thanks