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Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Fred C. ()
Date: January 22, 2016 01:23PM

In these blizzard conditions today will the Arlington National "Tomb of the Unknown" Honor Guard be required to march and stand out in formation? I would think there are exceptions.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: It is an honor ()
Date: January 22, 2016 01:26PM

24 -7 no matter the of the weather.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: January 22, 2016 01:29PM

It is an honor Wrote:
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> 24 -7 no matter the of the weather.

+1!

Hey OP, were there exceptions when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? No? Well then there sure as fuck ain't gonna' be no exceptions in honoring the men and women who gave their lives to keep us free.

"I would think there are exceptions..." holy fuck, who raised you?!?!?

Here's where else there's no exceptions...My foot in your ass when you act like a dumbass, Dumbass.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: The Old Guard ()
Date: January 22, 2016 01:29PM

So would they.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Fred C. ()
Date: January 22, 2016 02:10PM

Huh??? Wrote:
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> It is an honor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 24 -7 no matter the of the weather.
>
> +1!
>
> Hey OP, were there exceptions when the Germans
> bombed Pearl Harbor? No? Well then there sure as
> fuck ain't gonna' be no exceptions in honoring the
> men and women who gave their lives to keep us
> free.
>
> "I would think there are exceptions..." holy fuck,
> who raised you?!?!?
>
> Here's where else there's no exceptions...My foot
> in your ass when you act like a dumbass, Dumbass.

You dumb FUCK.....You probably never served a day in your life so don't quote military BS to me. You probably are also an antiwar draft dodger.

Now the answer I was looking for is they usually march for 1 hour in winter months, but with these blizzard conditions will cut back to every 20 minutes or so. I answered the question for the rest here and you dick breath.

Again, you are just a mindless PUKE....I served proudly before you were born you POS.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: P-38 Lightning Pilot ()
Date: January 22, 2016 02:26PM

I'm going to steal this content from a previous poster but, it's very applicable to Fred so, whomever posted it first...thanks...

We know, Fred. We alllllllllllllll know. You're just so damn butt-hurt...aren't you?

Why don't you go back down to your room...errrr, I mean your parents' basement? Don't worry, Mommy will be down soon to smother your genitals with marshmallow fluff while Daddy plays hide-the-nine-iron in your ass and then watches you lick your own shit off the end of it. Then you can all watch "Black Sheep Squadron" together...

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: imbiker ()
Date: January 22, 2016 02:33PM

24 x 7
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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ex-Old Guard ()
Date: January 22, 2016 05:43PM

I was in the Old Guard from 1995-99. Yes 24-7. When the cemetery is closed there is a guard shack next to the tomb. The soldiers can go in there. Also, after hours, uniform is BDU's. Dress uniform 1 hour prior to opening and 1 hour after closing. Most after hours is dedicated to practicing the routine.

Hope that cleared up any questions.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: local... ()
Date: January 22, 2016 05:55PM

11B
24/7.
Hooah!

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: January 22, 2016 05:58PM

Lots of juice going around there.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ..... ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:00PM

local... Wrote:
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> 11B
> 24/7.
> Hooah!


Yeah, right. Not a CIB worn in the whole place. Except for recent transfers.


You're pogues. Get over it.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Fred C. ()
Date: January 22, 2016 06:16PM

ex-Old Guard Wrote:
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> I was in the Old Guard from 1995-99. Yes 24-7.
> When the cemetery is closed there is a guard shack
> next to the tomb. The soldiers can go in there.
> Also, after hours, uniform is BDU's. Dress uniform
> 1 hour prior to opening and 1 hour after closing.
> Most after hours is dedicated to practicing the
> routine.
>
> Hope that cleared up any questions.

Thank you. With this weather I wouldn't think the guards could stand out there the full 1 hour designated for winter time. What about there safety?

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ex-Old Guard ()
Date: January 22, 2016 09:06PM

There is a small barracks under the amphitheater. it has bunks, dayroom kitchen, lockers, press machines, etc. They'll be fine.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Local Mann ()
Date: January 22, 2016 09:37PM

So, just to be clear (because I've lived here forever, but always wondered):

#1 Guards are dressed in blues one hour before opening and one hour after closing, and in BDUs after-hours.
#2 There is a guard shack that Guards can duck into, if need be, during after-hours, but is manned 24/7 so a sentry will always on post at the Tomb (?)
#3 The "steps and turn" routine is done only during hours the cemetery is open, while the routine is practiced after-hours (?)

True-or-false?

And will the ANC be open on Sunday?

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: When I Visit The Tomb ()
Date: January 22, 2016 10:11PM

I am reverent and respectful and silent.. A couple years back the guard ducked into the little shelter on the left as you face the Tomb and picked up the phone.. An Obama Voter in the crowd piped up.. "Hello Dominos Pizza" We all gave the ass the evil eye. What a jerk.

Not a place to disrespect those who served. And that's the point of the Tomb. By the Grace of God it could be anyone who serves in the uniform of the Armed Forces. I worked with a guy who was in the Old Guard. And basically what he told me is what others have stated above. The nights and off hours are training, but there are there 24/7 and when their ready, then they go before the public. The Tomb Badge they wear is a honor that is highly respected and must be earned after several months of duty.

DAJAX

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Fred C. ()
Date: January 22, 2016 10:48PM

When I Visit The Tomb Wrote:
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> I am reverent and respectful and silent.. A couple
> years back the guard ducked into the little
> shelter on the left as you face the Tomb and
> picked up the phone.. An Obama Voter in the crowd
> piped up.. "Hello Dominos Pizza" We all gave the
> ass the evil eye. What a jerk.
>
> Not a place to disrespect those who served. And
> that's the point of the Tomb. By the Grace of God
> it could be anyone who serves in the uniform of
> the Armed Forces. I worked with a guy who was in
> the Old Guard. And basically what he told me is
> what others have stated above. The nights and off
> hours are training, but there are there 24/7 and
> when their ready, then they go before the public.
> The Tomb Badge they wear is a honor that is highly
> respected and must be earned after several months
> of duty.
>
> DAJAX

OP here: Finally some credible answers from honorable citizens and hopefully the other rift-raft here can respect some valid answers. These are the responses I was looking for. Thank You.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Local Mann ()
Date: January 22, 2016 11:25PM

The post will be manned, but I doubt there'll be much marching going on this weekend at the Tomb.

I'd have to imagine that any funeral taking place tomorrow or Sunday would be a quite memorable scene for all those involved.
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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: mjs ()
Date: January 22, 2016 11:30PM

https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonNationalCemetery/

Even though Arlington National Cemetery is closed due to the blizzard, the Sentinels continue to guard the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.Photos by the 3d Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/theoldguard/sets/72157661492204694/

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Dane Bramage ()
Date: January 22, 2016 11:39PM

mjs Wrote:
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> https://www.facebook.com/ArlingtonNationalCemetery
> /
>
> Even though Arlington National Cemetery is closed
> due to the blizzard, the Sentinels continue to
> guard the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.Photos by
> the 3d Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard).
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/theoldguard/sets/721
> 57661492204694/

^^ This.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: January 23, 2016 12:16AM

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: local... ()
Date: January 23, 2016 08:14AM

Got my CIB in Ghazni Afghanistan homie. As for the Ft. Meyers grunts, I guess the EIB is it for most of them though they have caught some smaller deployments to the Sinai and stuff... Dunno.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Human ()
Date: January 23, 2016 09:11AM

Of course they are out there. As you can see from this thread, the government and most of this country care more about the dead than they do the living.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ex-Old Guard ()
Date: January 23, 2016 09:36AM

Local Mann Wrote:
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> So, just to be clear (because I've lived here
> forever, but always wondered):
>
> #1 Guards are dressed in blues one hour before
> opening and one hour after closing, and in BDUs
> after-hours.
> #2 There is a guard shack that Guards can duck
> into, if need be, during after-hours, but is
> manned 24/7 so a sentry will always on post at the
> Tomb (?)
> #3 The "steps and turn" routine is done only
> during hours the cemetery is open, while the
> routine is practiced after-hours (?)
>
> True-or-false?
>
> And will the ANC be open on Sunday?

______________________________________________________________________________

I don't think it will be open Sunday. Depends on what the Federal Government does. ANC's schedule follows any federal property's schedule for emergencies, etc. There are civilian grounds keepers doing snow removal at the tomb so the guards can work.

To answer your other three question, that about sums it up. When I was assigned there, there were 3 shifts or "reliefs". First, Second, and Third. 8 hours on, 8 hours off and 8(ish) hours training. I was third relief. Basically night shift. No crowds, all practice. I never made past that. I didn't move up to the higher reliefs, and didn't earn the Tomb badge.

They were a dedicated group of men. I couldn't hang, basically. It consumes your life. I didn't have the constant dedication that was required. Very difficult when you're early 20's and have a young family at home.

So I went back to a regular line company. The 3rd US INF,(the Old Guard) was my third duty station. I'd been in field units for 5 years prior. I wasn't used to the ceremonial aspect of a soldier.


Anyway, enough reminiscing, lol. I hoped I answered some of your questions.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: January 23, 2016 10:18AM

local... Wrote:
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> Got my CIB in Ghazni Afghanistan homie. As for the
> Ft. Meyers grunts, I guess the EIB is it for most
> of them though they have caught some smaller
> deployments to the Sinai and stuff... Dunno.


You didn't get that with the 3rd.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ------ ()
Date: January 23, 2016 10:34AM

...... Wrote:
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> local... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Got my CIB in Ghazni Afghanistan homie. As for
> the
> > Ft. Meyers grunts, I guess the EIB is it for
> most
> > of them though they have caught some smaller
> > deployments to the Sinai and stuff... Dunno.
>
>
> You didn't get that with the 3rd.

When did he say he was ever in the 3rd?

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Hallowed Ground ()
Date: January 23, 2016 10:52AM

Soldiers stood guard over cemeteries on foreign soil to prevent grave robbers.
Unless US military cemeteries have the same problem then why do they still continue this ceremony? The dead ain't going nowhere anytime soon.
There are millions of unknown soldiers thru-out history. Fifteen hundred still missing in Southeasr Asia.
Honor the soldiers who are still above ground.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: ....... ()
Date: January 23, 2016 12:13PM

------ Wrote:
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> ...... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > local... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Got my CIB in Ghazni Afghanistan homie. As
> for
> > the
> > > Ft. Meyers grunts, I guess the EIB is it for
> > most
> > > of them though they have caught some smaller
> > > deployments to the Sinai and stuff... Dunno.
> >
> >
> > You didn't get that with the 3rd.
>
> When did he say he was ever in the 3rd?


My original post was that the Guards aren't actively deployed combat infantryman.

He responded that he has a CIB. Implying that he is.

I, again, pointed out that he didn't earn it with the 3rd.

Moron.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: local... ()
Date: January 24, 2016 11:04AM

....... Wrote:
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> ------ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > local... Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Got my CIB in Ghazni Afghanistan homie. As
> > for
> > > the
> > > > Ft. Meyers grunts, I guess the EIB is it
> for
> > > most
> > > > of them though they have caught some
> smaller
> > > > deployments to the Sinai and stuff...
> Dunno.
> > >
> > >
> > > You didn't get that with the 3rd.
> >
> > When did he say he was ever in the 3rd?
>
>
> My original post was that the Guards aren't
> actively deployed combat infantryman.
>
> He responded that he has a CIB. Implying that he
> is.
>
> I, again, pointed out that he didn't earn it with
> the 3rd.
>
> Moron.


Nope, not with the third fellows.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Nodda ()
Date: January 24, 2016 01:34PM

Local Mann Wrote:
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> So, just to be clear (because I've lived here
> forever, but always wondered):
>
> #1 Guards are dressed in blues one hour before
> opening and one hour after closing, and in BDUs
> after-hours.
> #2 There is a guard shack that Guards can duck
> into, if need be, during after-hours, but is
> manned 24/7 so a sentry will always on post at the
> Tomb (?)
> #3 The "steps and turn" routine is done only
> during hours the cemetery is open, while the
> routine is practiced after-hours (?)
>
> True-or-false?
>
> And will the ANC be open on Sunday?

AAAAND . . . the question everyone wants to know - does the Guard actually walk during horribly bad weather conditions? Well, yes and no. First, during the recent snow, they likely were trading shifts every 30 or so minutes. Also, if bad weather is present, Guard will be offered the choice of seeking shelter. Would he/she? I don't know that one ever has. It's not viewed as "I'm a badass and can handle this", but more of a "I will not leave this tomb because the fallen deserve it and that's the least I can do." However, I am aware that there have been VERY rare cases in which a Guard was ORDERED to take shelter. (Tornado very close, hurricane, etc.)

These soldiers are provided with the training and "gear" to physically and mentally be prepared to survive deplorable conditions. They honor their brothers and sisters well, and take it very seriously, as they should.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: Kardinal ()
Date: January 24, 2016 04:12PM

Hallowed Ground Wrote:
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> Soldiers stood guard over cemeteries on foreign
> soil to prevent grave robbers.
> Unless US military cemeteries have the same
> problem then why do they still continue this
> ceremony? The dead ain't going nowhere anytime
> soon.
> There are millions of unknown soldiers thru-out
> history. Fifteen hundred still missing in
> Southeasr Asia.
> Honor the soldiers who are still above ground.

Men who are called on to be willing to die for one another (which is who they are really willing to die for: their brothers in their unit) form a very tight connection. The traditions of honoring the dead are really for the living. It shows a soldier that if he fell, he will be remembered, his death will matter, and that he matters. It helps build that connection and motivates them to give their all in combat.

Guarding the Tomb of the Unknowns is our ultimate symbol that the sacrifice is appreciated. And it is a symbol; we don't do it for every unknown. But by guarding those three men who fell, we symbolize that we honor all of them.

No, the dead do not care that their sacrifice is appreciated, but it reminds the living to appreciate those who do serve, and to encourage those who serve that we honor them and will remember them if they do fall.

I hope that helps.

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Re: Serious question about Arlington National Honor Guard
Posted by: humble thanks ()
Date: January 25, 2016 05:53PM

Thank you all for your service, said with sincere appreciation.

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