Re: TJHSST Myths
Posted by:
refreshingly honest.
()
Date: January 20, 2016 04:56PM
TJ Alum Wrote:
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> tj myths Wrote:
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> > The dearth of Hispanics and Blacks is caused by
> > the failure of these students to apply? Talk
> > about confusing correlation with causation,
> > because that is what the original poster is
> doing.
> > So much for TJ and the application of logic.
> >
> > Minority students don't apply because only a
> > fraction score high enough without racial
> > preferences to be considered for admission,
> even
> > in the first round. And they don't apply
> because
> > so few can meet the minimum standards. And
> this
> > is not surprising. Fairfax's achievement gap
> is
> > the same as it is everywhere else in the
> country.
> > The problem is the cognitive/IQ gap, as the
> book
> > the Bell Curve reflected years ago. Remember,
> Evan
> > Glazer (who I admire) instituted years ago a
> > minimum GPA to stay at TJ. TJ can't easily
> > practice heavy affirmative action even though
> > there are many effete, progressive apparatchiks
> in
> > the county who want TJ to do so - the failure
> rate
> > would be too noticeable.
> >
> > The school averages near 1500 on the SAT for
> math
> > and critical reading. The number of black
> students
> > who score 750 on each part of the SAT is likely
> no
> > more than 300-400 (if that) nationwide. Sure,
> a
> > handful who can approach these scores live in
> > Northern Virginia, and that handful likely
> attends
> > TJ. But the number of 130 IQ black kids (and
> bear
> > in mind to succeed at TJ you likely need far
> more
> > octane than 130) is really, really small, with
> the
> > distributions at the right edge of the curve
> being
> > so tiny it is shocking. (Conversely, not talked
> > about in the media, one sixth of blacks have an
> IQ
> > of 70 or less - again not talked about publicly
> > and beyond the ken of the average white or
> Asian
> > person in terms of understanding - one reason
> the
> > Supreme Court held that the death penalty
> cannot
> > apply to those with an IQ under 70 is that in
> > their polite, elitist world, they don't know
> > anyone with an IQ below 70 who is not disabled
> -
> > such as with a Downs syndrome person. Think
> > instead of illiterate Rachel Jeantel, the
> witness
> > in the Zimmerman case, and well, that is a
> common
> > occurrence in that population, and something
> upper
> > middle class people rarely experience). The
> IQ
> > problem is not discussed in education circles,
> > because, well, doing so publicly can get you
> > fired. But IQ is the elephant in the room. And
> it
> > is distressing that after spending trillions on
> > social programs after the civil rights era the
> > inter-generational IQ gap remains high and has
> > grown in recent years.
> >
> > TJ isn't all it is cracked up to be. For the
> > right student - particularly a very bright
> student
> > not hectored or tested up by their parents -
> and
> > that means a number of Asians there are not
> really
> > well placed at all - it makes sense. But one
> can
> > do very well at the base schools, too.
> >
> > The problem is not the number of Asians at TJ.
> > The problem is what parents - and particularly
> > Asian parents do to get there. Parents should
> not
> > push their kids into TJ. It is akin to pushing
> a
> > kid with Division III athletic talent to top
> level
> > Division I so they can say they did it - it
> > doesn't make for success. Tell that to many
> Asian
> > parents and they will not get it. But those of
> us
> > who have sent successful and happy students to
> TJ
> > know the score.
>
> This is absolutely correct. I score 138 to 142 IQ
> my entire life, since the third grade. I estimate
> I was in the top 35th percentile performance wise
> at TJ. My ex probably has an IQ of 150 to 160,
> and she was in the top 2% academically at TJ.
>
> Our kids are basically morons (it's mean
> regression), I'm hoping to spend $200,000 so that
> my daughter can get into Medira and to at least
> have a chance at our backup school, UVa.
refreshingly honest. My wife son and daughter are like you and your wife. Son will probably go to TJ and he has never done more than 3 hrs of homework per week ever in his life. His work has been magically done on the bus most years of his life. For me school was climbing mountains for him its a walk in the park.
I can only imagine the stress of someone with an average IQ entering TJ. Possible, sure. Healthy for a young person - I doubt it. We have amazing schools like Woodson where the normal people can practically finish Freshman year of College by graduation. Why kill them in TJ?