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What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 13, 2006 06:08PM

The entire complex was vacated a few weeks ago, and has since been boarded up and fenced in.

Has anyone heard anything about the future plans for the site? It's eerie to see an entire development vacant and fenced in like that; not to mention, it's a crack den waiting to happen. (Not that it wasn't a crack den before, mind you...)

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:08PM

Maybe they just locked all the residents in there.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:18PM

> ghetto apts... in C'ville

Man that place must have changed, I lived with some friends out there for 10 months in 96 and back then it was pretty far from being "ghetto". I recognize those street names you mention but can't really remember what they were like. It definitely wasn't even close to ghetto, makes me wonder what the fuck's going on out there, haven't been there in a decade, pretty sad if that's what Cville has turned into.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:21PM

people are referring to it as ghetto because most of the people that lived there are minorities who are not of means.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:38PM

Coming out of the Nats game today I accidentally got onto Benning Rd., and took a few "shortcuts" on the side streets of NE, that's some real ghetto they got going on over there. Cville probably looks like Beverly Hills compared to some of those neighborhoods I drove through.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:46PM

I referred to it as ghetto because it had become a crime-infested, vandalized, seedy stretch of neighborhood that has now apparently been slated for demolition. A stark contrast to the pricey single family homes less than a quarter mile around the corner.

The neighboring residents in the vicinity now seem to be hell bent on breaking all the remaining windows in these buildings. Because that's not ghetto at all, you know.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 13, 2006 09:57PM

I used to really like this little Chinese take-out place on the north side of 29, just east of the 28/29 intersection, sorta catty-cornered to that McD's. Is that place still there? This thread really has me reminicsing about Cville, I really liked it when I lived there.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2006 09:58PM by TheMeeper.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 13, 2006 10:37PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> I used to really like this little Chinese take-out
> place on the north side of 29, just east of the
> 28/29 intersection, sorta catty-cornered to that
> McD's. Is that place still there? This thread
> really has me reminicsing about Cville, I really
> liked it when I lived there.


The McD's is still there, of course (along with a notorious speed trap along 28 just in front of it), but I'm not sure which Chinese take-out joint you're thinking of...
Was it a stand-alone shop, or part of shopping center? For the past couple of years, there's been a competing Burger King directly across McD's on the other side of 28, but I can't recall anything being in that space before The King showed up.

I should also point out that Centreville as a whole hasn't exactly gone downhill--that small section along St. Germain/Machen is really the exception.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 13, 2006 10:46PM

or part of shopping center?

It was part of a small shopping center, I guess it ain't around anymore. There was no Burger King in Cville when I lived there.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:35PM

I lived there until end of March! There was not any drugs problem,just too much drinking by a few bad people.The whole place is being ripped down to build $650,000 townhomes.You assholes are racist pigs! I work in a large restaurant and sometimes I put piss and shit in your food because of the way you treat spanish people.Anita may love you.I i sure as hell don't


FUCK ALL RACIST white PEOPLE

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:40PM

Well, that was very enlightening.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: from the 757 ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:42PM

Well that's a good way to improve the situation.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:44PM

I must admit I was less in favor of 650,000 dollar townhomes BEFORE Jose posted.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:45PM

(repost)



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/13/2006 11:46PM by RESton Peace.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:53PM

$650,000 townhomes? Simply split the rent/mortgage 25 ways and you'll be able to afford it, no problem.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:57PM

jose Wrote:
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> I lived there until end of March! There was not
> any drugs problem,just too much drinking by a few
> bad people.The whole place is being ripped down to
> build $650,000 townhomes.You assholes are racist
> pigs! I work in a large restaurant and sometimes I
> put piss and shit in your food because of the way
> you treat spanish people.Anita may love you.I i
> sure as hell don't
>
>
> FUCK ALL RACIST white PEOPLE


Oh, that's right. Once again, it's the racist white people who ruined that community. Silly me.

You mentioned there having been "too much drinking by a few bad people." Obviously, those were the racist white people you were referring to. That 'splains everything.

Best wishes to you and Anita; and my compliments to the chef.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 13, 2006 11:58PM

fuck you Gravis and reston penis

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: August 14, 2006 12:50AM

brianl703 Wrote:
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> $650,000 townhomes? Simply split the rent/mortgage
> 25 ways and you'll be able to afford it, no
> problem.


lol!



jose Wrote:
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> fuck you Gravis and reston penis


i didnt even post in this thread until now. i have nothing against any specific race of people. i do however hold a grudge against people who get away with breaking the law with everyone watching which is illegal aliens and the police. if you arent breaking laws, being hypocritical, acting like an asshole, breeding like crazy, abusing "the system" or a zealot of anykind (note: all of these things have exceptions), i have no qualms with you. so... what did i do wrong?


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:17AM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I must admit I was less in favor of 650,000 dollar
> townhomes BEFORE Jose posted.

Good one. And I agree.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: 345 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:22AM

Jose will be deported by the end of the month

Sincelely,
INS

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 12:05PM

Well, I hope that makes Jose happy..after all he won't have to deal with all of those racist white people back home...

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 12:08PM

Hey, speaking of Spanish places getting trashed and shut down... What's going on with the former Tia's Tex Mex restaurant in Fairfax/Fair Lakes? (Behind Macaroni Grill and next to Barnes & Noble/CompUSA).

A friend who works in that shopping center had heard that a former Tia's employee gained access to the building one night and threw the party to end all parties--and literally trashed place. It closed the next morning and hasn't opened since--and it's been a long time now. Hard to believe that it has sat dormant all this time... Has anyone heard any plans for what's in its future (or a different reason for its demise?)

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C\'ville?
Posted by: chrisj ()
Date: August 14, 2006 12:21PM

I heard the same thing about Tia\'s, that someone snuck in there and fucked up a whole bunch of stuff. They clogged up all of the toilets and took a jackhammer to one of the walls and supposedly squirted corn everywhere. I heard they didn\'t catch who did it though.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C\'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 12:39PM

chrisj Wrote:
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> I heard the same thing about Tia\'s, that someone
> snuck in there and fucked up a whole bunch of
> stuff. They clogged up all of the toilets and
> took a jackhammer to one of the walls and
> supposedly squirted corn everywhere. I heard they
> didn\'t catch who did it though.


Hmmm... Still hard to fathom that the owners couldn't either A: decontaminate the hell out of it and use the insurance money to renovate; or B: sell the property to another willing restauranteur. It seems like it's been sitting there empty now for over a year--and not many commercial spaces in Fairfax do that.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 14, 2006 01:47PM

Lots of commercial spaces in this county do that. Attempts to make a direct parallel between the business and household real estate are somewhat pointless.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: August 14, 2006 02:12PM

jose Wrote:
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> FUCK ALL RACIST white PEOPLE

Thats a Racist Comment in itself.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 02:16PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Lots of commercial spaces in this county do that.
> Attempts to make a direct parallel between the
> business and household real estate are somewhat
> pointless.


It wasn't a direct parallel. The common thread was simply "Spanish", "Closed down", and "Why?"
Comprende? ;)

Tia's seemed to be a popular restaurant in a thriving shopping center directly adjacent to the Government Center, and within walking distance of the booming new Fairfax Corner. That a restaurant would sit vacant for over a year in that location is unusual.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 14, 2006 02:21PM

And I wasn't saying you were drawing the parallel directly between the place on St Germain and the commercial real estate market, I was saying you were making that statement based on the entire real estate market in this area.

Comprende?

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 02:30PM

Gracias, amigo, but I was simply switching gears to inquire about the bizarre closing of a popular TexMex restaurant; the property of which has now sat vacant for an unusually long time, considering the location.

Who knows... perhaps Jose shat in the food there as well. (*shrugs shoulders*)

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 02:54PM

If the idea is that a commercial property shouldn't sit vacant because of how well the residental real estake market is doing, let me point out that the residental real estate market in this area seems to be pretty screwed.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 03:10PM

brianl703 Wrote:
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> If the idea is that a commercial property
> shouldn't sit vacant because of how well the
> residental real estake market is doing, let me
> point out that the residental real estate market
> in this area seems to be pretty screwed.


Again, I'm not trying to relate commercial and residential real estate markets at all. Neither are particularly encouraging at the moment, I'm sure.

Someone suggested that "lots of commercial spaces in this county do that", which I took to mean sit vacant for the amount of time that Tia's has--in what is an active and growing location. I'm not aware of such properties, which made the Tia's situation all the more unique.

I'm just curious to know what happened to the restaurant, and what's going to happen to it--just as I was curious to know what happened to the apartments on St. Germain, and what's going to happen to them. Any further connection between the two topics was unintentional--I just didn't see the point of starting a new thread.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 14, 2006 04:03PM

they should also level Shenandoah Crossing.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: stinkypoon ()
Date: August 14, 2006 04:09PM

Jose,

You are an example of why people don't want illegals in this country. I'm not saying you are one, but you can bet your ass that there are a lot of people in this country that will be voting for candidates running hard on border security. Of course in your little racist mind, you see it as a gringo/hombre issue. Dickhead.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 14, 2006 04:28PM

"Jose" is probably just some white teenager being a trouble-jester, trolling around looking to get people to respond to him.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: come on folks ()
Date: August 14, 2006 04:51PM

brianl703 Wrote:
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> If the idea is that a commercial property
> shouldn't sit vacant because of how well the
> residental real estake market is doing, let me
> point out that the residental real estate market
> in this area seems to be pretty screwed.

You can say that again!

Example: My brother has been trying to sell a 8 year old townhouse near Fairfax Corner. April 2006...3 neighboring units sold for $489-495K. Longest one took 14 days to sell. My brother's unit was listed early May.....and just this week, he FINALLY got the FIRST offer...for $412K....that's a price reduction of over $70,000! He took it.

I feel sorry for the saps that bought in April....it will be many years before they can sell (and break even).

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 14, 2006 06:56PM

Now you Fuckers are criticizing spanish food shops ? Fuck you !
I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper,reston penis and gravis the buttfucker.You 3 basdards are at fault for many white men eatting shit.Next I will put bloody tampon (from the white box in womens bathhouse) in the soup.All whites must eat shit,as they have shit for brains and are racist and are mean and are just fucked up.


Fuck you all,
Jose The shitmaker

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 14, 2006 07:25PM

"I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"...."I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper"....

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Henry agrees Gravis deserves Sh!t pie ()
Date: August 14, 2006 07:36PM

I used to almost hit like 2 latinos a week driving to LT GYM by that apartment complex.

Those people were like deer. No sense of oncoming traffic, no considerations for using crosswalks...They would just shoot across the road right in front of you, as they make their 11am trips to the IN & OUT conveniance store.

I guess that IN & OUT is suffering the worst because of the complex shutdown.

But at least I don't have to slam on my breaks at 40 mph anymore.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 07:38PM

"I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper..."

If you try hard enough, that can probably be sung to the tune of Paul Simon's "Me and Julio Down By the School Yard."

Hey, what a coincidence--Julio's Spanish, too!

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 14, 2006 07:42PM

Henry agrees Gravis deserves Sh!t pie Wrote:
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> I used to almost hit like 2 latinos a week driving
> to LT GYM by that apartment complex.
>
> Those people were like deer. No sense of oncoming
> traffic, no considerations for using
> crosswalks...They would just shoot across the road
> right in front of you, as they make their 11am
> trips to the IN & OUT conveniance store.
>
> I guess that IN & OUT is suffering the worst
> because of the complex shutdown.
>
> But at least I don't have to slam on my breaks at
> 40 mph anymore.


What's ironic is that the crosswalks were actually a shorter distance from the apartments to the shopping center, yet very few people ever used them. They'd take the longer diagonal route and choose the strangest spots between vehicles to cross Machen.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 08:27PM

There is a joke among fire and police workers that the area of Rt 50 near Falls Church was called the bowling alley. It was because of the mexicans who kept getting knocked down like pins while crossing in the middle of the street when cars are going 50 plus mph.
There is a light in the middle of the road now at Lohmanns Plaza but it does no good the mexicans still dash right into the traffic.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: HAHAH ()
Date: August 14, 2006 08:36PM

hahaha

bowling alley

thats too funny, sad and true

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 14, 2006 08:51PM

getting knocked down like pins while crossing in the middle of the street

Boy what a hilarious "joke".

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 14, 2006 09:01PM

I drive through there some mornings. I haven't had any close calls yet but there are lots of them in the median waiting to spring.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Tim45 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 09:04PM

Meeper, yeah I would say anyone who runs in front of a car doing 50 mph is a joke. Guess the cops and fireman had to keep a sense of humor when they kept having to go back time and again to pick up the road kill.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 14, 2006 09:24PM

Tim45, yeah, it's very reckless, irresponsible behavior, and I'm sure cops and EMT's need to cope with it in some way. But I've seen car v. pedestrian accidents and it isn't funny, regardless of what language they spoke or how they earned their living or whose fault it was. Somebody is dead and their family & kids & freinds have to deal with that forever. It's a pretty fucking disturbing experience, actually.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 14, 2006 09:30PM

the meeper sucks doggy dicks

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 14, 2006 09:37PM

People who get run over due to a lack of common sense are funny.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Jose ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:00PM

Reston penis - fuck you asswipe

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brian703 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:05PM

If anyone wants to see something interesting, google "greta" and "azarcon", find out what it contains, who uses it, and what they use it for.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:09PM

brian703 Wrote:
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> If anyone wants to see something interesting,
> google "greta" and "azarcon", find out what it
> contains, who uses it, and what they use it for.

A mexican folk remedy that contains lead. How is this interesting?

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:16PM

Consider the effects of lead poisoning on neurological development.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:33PM

Azarcon is a bright orange powder also known as Maria Luisa, Rueda, Alarcon, and Coral. Greta is a yellow powder. Azarcon and Greta are used to treat an upset stomach. Pay-loo-ah also has lead in it.

This is funny. It's like that Santeria shit.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 14, 2006 10:39PM

Yea. There's even a customs alert out on this stuff because it's being imported into this country.

Builds strong minds 10 ways, I guess.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: August 14, 2006 11:59PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> People who get run over due to a lack of common
> sense are funny.


i agree. it's comparable to the darwin awards.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: M ()
Date: August 15, 2006 01:24AM

Is this the complex
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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:31AM

It's all abandoned and stuff, like Chernobyl.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 08:03AM

That's the place. Now you can't even get into the parking lot, as the entire complex has been fenced in.

What's most disturbing is that I never noticed any mass exodus from the place, and I drive through this area every day. It just seemed like one day the ground floors were all boarded up, as though they'd been vandalized; soon thereafter, you started to realize that the places were empty... all of them. It's like a Twilight Zone community now. Or Chernobyl, as pgens stated.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 15, 2006 09:53AM

pgens Wrote:
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> It's all abandoned and stuff, like Chernobyl.


Chernobyl was never abondoned.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: 345 ()
Date: August 15, 2006 10:23AM

I enjoy my beaners with tire tread marks on their foreheads

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: hmmm... ()
Date: August 15, 2006 11:24AM

...I bet the crime rate in that area went down.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 15, 2006 11:45AM

Dude Wrote:
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> pgens Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's all abandoned and stuff, like Chernobyl.
>
>
> Chernobyl was never abondoned.

The city of Chernobyl has a quarter of the population it did before the disaster. As for the reactor complex itself, read up on the Zone of Alienation.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 15, 2006 12:27PM

"Now you Fuckers are criticizing spanish food shops ? Fuck you !
I put shit in white mans burro this afternoon cause of the Meeper,reston penis and gravis the buttfucker.You 3 basdards are at fault for many white men eatting shit.Next I will put bloody tampon (from the white box in womens bathhouse) in the soup.All whites must eat shit,as they have shit for brains and are racist and are mean and are just fucked up. "

posted by: Jose the beaner
--------------------------------------------
wow for someone who is trying to call gringos rascists your doing one hell of a great job

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 15, 2006 01:17PM

pgens Wrote:
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> Dude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > pgens Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > It's all abandoned and stuff, like Chernobyl.
> >
> >
> > Chernobyl was never abondoned.
>
> The city of Chernobyl has a quarter of the
> population it did before the disaster. As for the
> reactor complex itself, read up on the Zone of
> Alienation.


ah, the 30km radiation zone.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: jose ()
Date: August 15, 2006 01:46PM

No way Jose!

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 04:31PM

Ahh, finally found an answer. This one is a little more definitive (and less offensive) than Jose's was.

Sun Sets on Sunset Knolls

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Immigrant ()
Date: August 15, 2006 05:27PM

"About five years ago, Frey said, Sully District Police started occupying one of the apartments as a “community resource center,” though it never developed to the extent he had hoped."

you know you got a problem, when cops have to move in with you.

LOL

good move Fairfax County!

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 06:24PM

In the immortal words of former Montgomery Co. Police Chief Charles Moose, "We need to think about the childrens." If you noticed, one of the childrens in that article painted this grave portrait of the community:
"Every day, at every house the police are coming around," said Na, who lives with her brother and attends Liberty Middle School.
That's never good.

I'm curious to see who'll actually consider shelling out $600k for a home on the site--which will still be right in the heart of the seediness that is St. Germain Dr. The townhomes just further up the block (consisting of Cool Oak Lane, Golden Oak Rd., Strasburg Dr., Turin Ln.) likely house at least as many felons and miscreants as Sunset Knolls ever did.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: come on folks ()
Date: August 15, 2006 06:35PM

Could London Towne be next?

This Sunset Knolls thing is bad....it could mean more flophouses in currently decent neighborhoods. Those turkeys sure ain't going back to Mexico, unfortunately.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 15, 2006 06:58PM

Trekroner is right, I know a few people who live in the Meadows (cool oak lane and golden oak). While those houses are really condos (even the ones that are more townhouse-like are condos, according to the realtor that showed me ten of them), the people that live in that hood are mostly not well-off and it has just as many crime problems as other blighted neighborhoods in the area..

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:06PM

the seediness that is St. Germain Dr.

Man, that area must have really turned to shit in a hurry, when I lived Cville in 96 I always thought the houses & apartments around St Germain/Machen area were supposed to be pretty nice. When did all the poor people move there? It seemed real yuppy when I was there.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:16PM

It happened sometime in early 1997, apparently

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:20PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> Trekroner is right, I know a few people who live
> in the Meadows (cool oak lane and golden oak).
> While those houses are really condos (even the
> ones that are more townhouse-like are condos,
> according to the realtor that showed me ten of
> them), the people that live in that hood are
> mostly not well-off and it has just as many crime
> problems as other blighted neighborhoods in the
> area..

I have a friend who sold his place on Cool Oak Lane a couple of years ago and moved out of state. At the time he bought that place (and I believe it was a condo, now that you mention it), it was one of the few homes in the area that he could afford, having just come from an apartment. However, while his mortgage was very affordable, I recall him saying that the HOA fees were over $200 a month--which is absurd, especially considering the quality of that neighborhood, or lack thereof, and the understanding that the majority of its residents aren't exactly loaded (with cash, that is).

Of course, the beauty of this site is that anyone can peruse the countless arrests/tickets that those streets have produced over the years, if there's any doubt as to what that neighborhood is up against.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:31PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> the seediness that is St. Germain Dr.
>
> Man, that area must have really turned to shit in
> a hurry, when I lived Cville in 96 I always
> thought the houses & apartments around St
> Germain/Machen area were supposed to be pretty
> nice. When did all the poor people move there?
> It seemed real yuppy when I was there.


Further up St. Germain--where it becomes Field Encampment Dr.--is still a very nice area. The difference is quite amazing, considering how close the communities are. On either side of Field Encampment, the single family homes and townhouses are well-kept and (until earlier this year) continually rising in property value.

It's a classic case of "one of these things is not like the other"--the way Sunset Knolls and the Meadows are the exceptions in an otherwise safe and affluent area of Centreville.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:33PM

The Meadows has a private security "force" that patrols the neighborhood.

One of them shined his flashlight on me once at midnight, and I felt very intimidated...

Anyway, I was told that's the main reason the fees there are so high.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 15, 2006 07:39PM

I moved to Cville from PG county so maybe that's why I didn't notice it as much, everything out in the Cville area seemed vastly improved compared to what I was used to in the Greenbelt/Hyattsville corridor.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 15, 2006 08:05PM

I was kidding, I got no idea when it went to shit.... the property values are certainly still high... I had someone in the meadows turn down a fair offer I made for a fixer-upper... I think I got the last laugh, as the place I ended up getting will never have to worry about those issues.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2006 08:06PM by RESton Peace.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 08:23PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> The Meadows has a private security "force" that
> patrols the neighborhood.
>
> One of them shined his flashlight on me once at
> midnight, and I felt very intimidated...
>
> Anyway, I was told that's the main reason the fees
> there are so high.


Given the choice, I think it's safe to say that I'd rather just pay the extra cash to live in a place that doesn't need the "private security force." But that's just me.

The real security force seemed to be that fucking police helicopter that would circle endlessly at all hours of the night. Nothing says "dangerous criminal at large" like a good ol' helicopter search.

Anyone who has lived in Centreville in recent years should be familiar with the helicopter--and 9 out of 10 times, the incidents would involve a resident "of no fixed address" who naturally happened to be staying with someone in that neighborhood.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 15, 2006 08:31PM

I started a long thread on the infamous police helicopter last year sometime, let me recap:

Ken Cuccinelli. our fearless local rep to the statehouse, says that the he checked the helicopter logs, and the cops claim they were looking for children nearly every time they took it up at night.

I say that Centreville, therefore, has a lost child EPIDEMIC going on. That damn thing is up there seemingly night even now...

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: scott ()
Date: August 15, 2006 09:52PM

I lived at Sunset Knolls for three years.The place went to hell when too many wetbacks like Jose moved in.They throw their trash in hallway(causeing a roach epidemic),toss beer bottles on the walks,and have the cops there every night.I started carrying a gun the last 6 months I lived there.Rents were cheap,$750 for one bedroom and $900 for a two bedroom(small rooms).What you saw happen at Sunset knolls is the future of America if we continue to allow pricks like JOSE to steal th American dream from Americans.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: I wonder ()
Date: August 15, 2006 09:58PM

I'd just like to know where people like Jose are going to go when they realize they've turned the place they moved to into the same shit they left?

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 10:42PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I started a long thread on the infamous police
> helicopter last year sometime, let me recap:
>
> Ken Cuccinelli. our fearless local rep to the
> statehouse, says that the he checked the
> helicopter logs, and the cops claim they were
> looking for children nearly every time they took
> it up at night.
>
> I say that Centreville, therefore, has a lost
> child EPIDEMIC going on. That damn thing is up
> there seemingly night even now...

Hmm... I got that message myself once, after dialing the police non-emergency number to find out WTF was going on. "They're looking for some children." Oooookay... Did these children run away? Were they abducted? Or are they from the Meadows community and fleeing after having robbed someone at gunpoint?

Another time, they told me it was "providing medical support." Imagine my surprise moments later, when I spot three hispanic guys sneaking through the common ground directly behind my house--hiding under the deck of a neighbor who didn't have a fenced yard, as they avoided the chopper's searchlight. (This was about 3 years ago, but still--shouldn't that thing have had thermal vision already, btw?)

So, this time I call 911 and report what I've just seen. As the operator tries to tell me that the helicopter is a medivac, I explain to her that there are three suspicious men obviously trying to hide from their "medivac" helicopter; it's 1AM, and these guys are clearly not my neighbors. I asked her if she wanted to dispatch units immediately to check them out, or if I should just go out with my dogs. She said an officer was on his way.

To their credit, in what seemed like less than a minute, two FFX cruisers were discreetly on the scene, and had rounded up the three men on the curb. Fortunately, I found out that they weren't looking to break into houses (or worse); they had been involved in a serious hit and run just off of Field Encampment Dr. All were drunk off their asses, and simply bailed out on foot, leaving the driver of the other vehicle for dead. (He was the one being medivac'd, as it turned out.) The Three Amigos were trying to make their way back to--you guessed it--the Meadows.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 15, 2006 11:05PM

Dude Wrote:
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> > pgens Wrote:
> > The city of Chernobyl has a quarter of the
> > population it did before the disaster. As for
> the
> > reactor complex itself, read up on the Zone of
> > Alienation.
>
>
> ah, the 30km radiation zone.

If you haven't checked out the page where some chick does a bike tour through the zone and photographs things, interviews residents outside the zone, etc you should check it out. Very interesting and totally fucked.

http://www.kiddofspeed.com/

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 15, 2006 11:22PM

I also saw that kiddofspeed link a while back, and found the images of the empty Chernobyl fascinating. Although, I can't help but wonder how many years of her life that girl smoked by absorbing that kind of radiation. Two words, sweets: "lead vest."

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 16, 2006 12:07AM

pgens Wrote:
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> Dude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > pgens Wrote:
> > > The city of Chernobyl has a quarter of the
> > > population it did before the disaster. As
> for
> > the
> > > reactor complex itself, read up on the Zone
> of
> > > Alienation.
> >
> >
> > ah, the 30km radiation zone.
>
> If you haven't checked out the page where some
> chick does a bike tour through the zone and
> photographs things, interviews residents outside
> the zone, etc you should check it out. Very
> interesting and totally fucked.
>
> http://www.kiddofspeed.com/



That story turned out to be fake I belive.
She did manage to keep it going for a while.

Anyone can visit the zone.
$400 gets you all day tour.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 16, 2006 12:08AM

There are a lot of tour photos and videos on the Internet from Chernobyl.

Pripyat is the ghost city.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Jose ()
Date: August 16, 2006 12:28AM

I never messed up anything while living at Sunset Knolls,I now live at the Meadows for a short time before Im buy a house in Reston.My house in the Reston will be the best an biggest in all of the Northern Va. area.


White people suck !

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: trekroner ()
Date: August 16, 2006 12:54AM

Jose Wrote:
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> I never messed up anything while living at Sunset
> Knolls,I now live at the Meadows for a short time
> before Im buy a house in Reston.My house in the
> Reston will be the best an biggest in all of the
> Northern Va. area.
>
>
> White people suck !

Jose, I think it's high time someone asked you:
are you a Mexican, or a Mexican't?

Nevermind. I already know.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: 345 ()
Date: August 16, 2006 08:31AM

Sorry Jose, beaners are not allowed to buy homes in Reston. Unless you mean Southgate.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: August 16, 2006 08:40AM

Southgate is pretty bad, but stonegate is the one that has 24X7 foot patrols...

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 16, 2006 09:16AM

Chantilly Crossing has going downhill too.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 16, 2006 10:18AM

Dude Wrote:
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> That story turned out to be fake I belive.
> She did manage to keep it going for a while.
>
> Anyone can visit the zone.
> $400 gets you all day tour.

Bummer. But yeah if I'm ever in eastern Europe or Russia I should make the trip for the tour.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/16/2006 09:43PM by pgens.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Nacho ()
Date: August 16, 2006 10:52AM

As for living in "the Restons"; Reston rules do not prohibit anyone from living in the area. They simply say you can't park junk cars in your front yard and you have to get changes to landscape etc... approved.

Now if people have a problem with that, they should live else where.

PS- I suggest those who a problem with Reston take the Chernobyl tour, as discussed earlier, in person.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: August 16, 2006 11:05AM

People work in Chernobyl
Longterm effects are unknow, but I would not take the tour.
Not worth the risk, IMHO.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: August 16, 2006 11:12AM

Not worth the risk, IMHO.

I'd sooner go scuba diving in the Anacostia than take a bus tour of Chernobyl.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: August 16, 2006 01:16PM

Nacho Wrote:
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> PS- I suggest those who a problem with Reston take
> the Chernobyl tour, as discussed earlier, in
> person.

Yes, because removing homeowner policies in places like Reston inevitably leads to nuclear disasters. I wasn't even aware there was a nuclear reactor in Reston... learn something every day.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: August 16, 2006 08:11PM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> Not worth the risk, IMHO.
>
> I'd sooner go scuba diving in the Anacostia than
> take a bus tour of Chernobyl.



I'd rather be at risk of radiation than take a chance in the Anacostia. All of the crap (literally) that's in there... As a certified diver, I can tell you that if you drop your regulator (happens) you will be eating literal shit.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: August 16, 2006 09:53PM

I think it's amusing that the shit of EPA beauracrats that forced the outer suburbs to spend millions on UOSA floats in the Anacostia everytime they flush a toilet at work.

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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
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Date: August 16, 2006 09:55PM


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Re: What happened to the ghetto apts on St. Germain + Machen in C'ville?
Posted by: The Economist22 ()
Date: August 16, 2006 11:04PM

trekroner Wrote:
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>
>
> The real security force seemed to be that fucking
> police helicopter that would circle endlessly at
> all hours of the night. Nothing says "dangerous
> criminal at large" like a good ol' helicopter
> search.
>
>

Eh, dangerous criminal.. Nothing says "double kegger with possible underage drinking" more than the helicopter. Or "college kids stealing beer from 7-11 to go to said place".

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