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FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: what the actual fuck ()
Date: January 08, 2016 05:04PM

Message from the superintendent:

"Last night, I presented the FY 2017 Proposed Budget of $2.7 billion to the School Board. This year, I am asking our employees, students and families to stand with me to reverse the trend of nearly a decade of underfunding our school system. This is the year we must begin the restoration and rebuilding process. We have heard loud and clear from our community they do not want additional cuts to the programs and services that make FCPS great."

What the fucking fuck? BILLION?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: it adds up ()
Date: January 08, 2016 05:39PM

Menville "Flip" Flippen charged $10,000 for a commencement speech. Nardos King hired him at MVHS and we see how that turned out.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: HET ()
Date: January 08, 2016 06:14PM

Everybody point and laugh at the OP's nonexistent math skills. That's $14300 per student, which is an average amount.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Spread da wealth ()
Date: January 08, 2016 06:46PM

Ha ha, that is more than a few dozen countries yearly budget.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Bill Nyee ()
Date: January 08, 2016 07:11PM

Spread da wealth Wrote:
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> Ha ha, that is more than a few dozen countries
> yearly budget.


Yes but look at all the geniuses they produce, must be those free lunches...

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: What was it? ()
Date: January 08, 2016 07:15PM

Anybody have a chart of budget/actuals for FCPS for the past ten years or so? Dollars would be a good start, but number of teachers/staff/students would also be interesting.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: 8765 ()
Date: January 08, 2016 07:18PM

what the actual fuck Wrote:
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> Message from the superintendent:
>
> "Last night, I presented the FY 2017 Proposed
> Budget of $2.7 billion to the School Board. This
> year, I am asking our employees, students and
> families to stand with me to reverse the trend of
> nearly a decade of underfunding our school system.
> This is the year we must begin the restoration and
> rebuilding process. We have heard loud and clear
> from our community they do not want additional
> cuts to the programs and services that make FCPS
> great."
>
> What the fucking fuck? BILLION?


There will be a working lunch at M and S Tyson's on Tuesday the 12th to discuss this. 11-1pm. RSVP 571-423-1010.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Low morale ()
Date: January 08, 2016 09:26PM

If you want an honest answer...

Teachers are expected to not only baby-sit peoples' kids for most of the day, but instill in those children the values and morals that their parents deem "proper" even when those values are in direct opposition to values that other parents want THEIR children to learn.

Teacher are also not permitted to effectively discipline their pupils these days and are under daily scrutiny for even the smallest things, regardless of whether their actions are reasonable and necessary.
Teachers are asked to handle more and more students with fewer and fewer resources.

Teachers only work part of the year and are not paid for those months that they are off in the summer. FCPS got rid of that....

Many parents neglect to teach their children proper manners and respect, and then demand that their offspring be treated with respect and manners, although the children do not exhibit the same. Not having a good principal. I was in a school outside of Fairfax City and I had the worst principal in my career and I decided to give up on teaching at the end of this school year.

I could go on, but those reasons are the first ones that come to mind...

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: fed up teacher ()
Date: January 09, 2016 04:55AM

Yes the schools need the full budget this year but we also have to face the reality that the county is changing from suburban to urban. Prince William and Loudoun county schools are on the way up and Fairfax is on the way down. No amount of money is going to change this.
The language barrier situation is getting worse every year. Throw all the money you want at trying to educate kids that you cannot communicate with, the results will change very little. I retire in a few years and I have watched the steady decline of FCPS for about 15 years now. Thankfully I live in Prince William county and my kids were educated by PWCS.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Billions Served ()
Date: January 09, 2016 05:10AM

If FCPS spent the amount per student that Arlington County did per student the you would be looking at a $4 Billion annual budget.

But Fairfax does have a big fixed operating cost with the crazy large bus fleet, the sheer number of school facilities, the enormous staff size and perpetual care for the employees.

Effectively every resident of Fairfax County contributes over $3000 annually for toward the County budget.

About 2/3's is for FCPS.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: mjmhG ()
Date: January 09, 2016 06:30AM

HET Wrote:
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> Everybody point and laugh at the OP's nonexistent
> math skills. That's $14300 per student, which is
> an average amount.


So, 40% higher than the national average?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Derppp ()
Date: January 09, 2016 06:58AM

If you read your own quote, the requested budget is 2.7B. That does not mean it is 2.7B. Simple concept I think. However, simply typing FCPS 2016 Budget into Google will yield you the current budget in < 1 second. You'll see for 2016 the approved budget was 2.6B. This is a little bit of an increase.

Do you think schools pay for themselves and be teachers are volunteers? Sounds like this might be one of your first introductions to the real world. Amazing to see you blossom.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: $100,000,000.00 ()
Date: January 09, 2016 07:14AM

Derppp Wrote:
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> You'll see for 2016 the
> approved budget was 2.6B. This is a little bit of
> an increase.
>

$100,000,000.00 is not a little bit of anything.

The school board would be better investing in Power Ball tickets. They certainly have no insight on how to fund schools.

The budget office at Gatehouse was shocked by Garza's demands. They know where money can be cut but would have their tongues cut out if they said anything.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Cadillac or Yugo ()
Date: January 09, 2016 07:18AM

The national average includes backwater outposts where nothing but useless drones and clods are produced. We cannot afford to run a school system like that. The strength of our schools is one of the central pillars of our social and economic well-being here. We prosper because intelligent and creative people and the companies that employ them want to come to this area. This is in significant part because we can offer quality schools. Unless and until cost-cutting buttheads have their way and budgets, programs, and facilities are slashed to the point where providing a quality education is no longer possible.

FCPS budgets have been battered by both the county and the state for a decade. The Great Recession was a big and understandable factor in that, but that disaster is now in the rear-view mirror. Cuts need to be restored. Catch-up funds need to be provided. If necessary, tax rates now need to be raised simply to put schools back on a solid foundation. Much in our future will depend on how well we handle our current situation.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Derrrp ()
Date: January 09, 2016 07:27AM

$100,000,000.00 Wrote:
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> Derppp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You'll see for 2016 the
> > approved budget was 2.6B. This is a little bit
> of
> > an increase.
> >
>
> $100,000,000.00 is not a little bit of anything.
>
> The school board would be better investing in
> Power Ball tickets. They certainly have no
> insight on how to fund schools.
>
> The budget office at Gatehouse was shocked by
> Garza's demands. They know where money can be cut
> but would have their tongues cut out if they said
> anything.

It's actually more than $100,000,000.00 if you look at the budget proposal. These are just rounded numbers. The budget increase request from 2016 to 2017 is 4.8%. If money should be cut somewhere, people should man up and not be pussies about it. FCPS is not s profit center, so I am not sure I follow the lottery comment.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: No mustard cut ()
Date: January 09, 2016 07:34AM

$100,000,000.00 Wrote:
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> $100,000,000.00 is not a little bit of anything.

Fear of large numbers -- a sure sign that we are dealing here with a stupid person.

> The school board would be better investing in
> Power Ball tickets. They certainly have no
> insight on how to fund schools.

Yup, there's the useless stupid-shit babbling starting to pour out already. Like this dork has any sort of idea at all of how to run or fund a school system.

> The budget office at Gatehouse was shocked by Garza's
> demands. They know where money can be cut but would
> have their tongues cut out if they said anything.

And there's the predictable pile of made-up stupid-ass horseshit starting to build up again. Totally worthless is what these incredible muttering dumbfucks are. You'd be more likely to get rocket-science out of the mouth of some drunk-ass homeless person than to get a relevant point about schools from any of these total losers.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: just another waste ()
Date: January 09, 2016 12:25PM

WHY did they go through all of that having people suggest areas to cut? That was just more waste. Face it, they don't want to cut overpaid, incompetent administrators, unqualified consultants, and all of the fancy travel and dining out. Education for the kids is just not a priority when you can go to a conference in New Orleans and have a nice meal in the French Quarter on the County's credit card.

And, we won't even start on Karen Garza's $2,000 a month housing allowance.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: just another dope ()
Date: January 09, 2016 12:36PM

You may not have learned anything new since you were 8 years old, but teachers are required to. Courses and seminars are one way in which they do that, and like everyone else on business travel, they get reimbursed for certain out-of-pocket costs. It's like this all over. Apparently, you are just too fucking dumb to have noticed.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: LkbG3 ()
Date: January 10, 2016 08:04PM

here's the math on that

per family (ave 4.5 per, but not assuming all are counted as being in a household, far less, maybe 1/10 are in a "family" household)


- $100,000 PER FAMILY, per 1 year



if only 1/10 family are NOT paid directly or mostly indirectly by being a business who survives on gov workers


- $1,000,000,000 PER PRIVATE ENTERPRISE FAMILY, PER 1 year



THAT'S THE BULK OF SPENDINGS NOTE GOV WORKERS DO NOT PAY IT

instead, "school tax" is taxed on everyone "evenly" (noting gov workers just raise their own pay to deflect it off of their paychecks to push it towards private workers, the many of who eary minimum wage as a result !)

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: be4bK ()
Date: January 10, 2016 08:05PM


liberals and sharon bulova

billing you Harvard liberal cash for romper room


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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Soñador ()
Date: January 10, 2016 09:12PM

Somebody's gotta pay for their education. Now bend over.

illegals-kids.jpg

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Jabricksdis Shameekwa ()
Date: January 11, 2016 02:07AM

I would honestly rather that 2.7 billion went to bombing sand nigger families in the Stan countries than a bunch of illegals, niggers, and wiggers. Spend that money on some better bombs to demolish all of the middle east, including Israel. That would be a much better use of that money. Thank you for reading. Faggots.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Deep! ()
Date: January 11, 2016 09:04AM

just another waste Wrote:
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> WHY did they go through all of that having people
> suggest areas to cut?

because you people don't have a clue on what to cut, most of the "community" suggested cuts either would have had no effect or was based on biased ideas of how things were structured when in reality their biased ideas were completely off base.
Most of you just like to spout out hatred rather than valid helpful critiques

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Sharoom Bullover ()
Date: January 11, 2016 09:18AM

what the actual fuck Wrote:
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> Message from the superintendent:
>
> "Last night, I presented the FY 2017 Proposed
> Budget of $2.7 billion to the School Board. This
> year, I am asking our employees, students and
> families to stand with me to reverse the trend of
> nearly a decade of underfunding our school system.
> This is the year we must begin the restoration and
> rebuilding process. We have heard loud and clear
> from our community they do not want additional
> cuts to the programs and services that make FCPS
> great."
>
> What the fucking fuck? BILLION?

Shut up and pay your taxes you fucking peasant. Do you realize how many Syrian refugees we have on the way?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: therealproblem ()
Date: January 11, 2016 09:24AM

Fire the useless admins who were moved out of teaching positions due to incompetence and are now making six figure salaries. That is the real problem.

what the actual fuck Wrote:
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> Message from the superintendent:
>
> "Last night, I presented the FY 2017 Proposed
> Budget of $2.7 billion to the School Board. This
> year, I am asking our employees, students and
> families to stand with me to reverse the trend of
> nearly a decade of underfunding our school system.
> This is the year we must begin the restoration and
> rebuilding process. We have heard loud and clear
> from our community they do not want additional
> cuts to the programs and services that make FCPS
> great."
>
> What the fucking fuck? BILLION?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Deep! ()
Date: January 11, 2016 12:05PM

therealproblem Wrote:
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> Fire the useless admins who were moved out of
> teaching positions due to incompetence and are now
> making six figure salaries. That is the real
> problem.
>

i see this statement alot, but yet seen no proof that the admin staff is full of ex teachers/principals that were incompetent? Once again probably pure BS from someone that has no real clue but to spout hatred and anger over some hear say statement.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: heymack ()
Date: January 11, 2016 12:07PM

Wrong, this is true. I'm not going to out anyone on this pathetic site but I can say I know at least 4 of them.

therealproblem Wrote:
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> Fire the useless admins who were moved out of
> teaching positions due to incompetence and are now
> making six figure salaries. That is the real
> problem.
>
> what the actual fuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Message from the superintendent:
> >
> > "Last night, I presented the FY 2017 Proposed
> > Budget of $2.7 billion to the School Board.
> This
> > year, I am asking our employees, students and
> > families to stand with me to reverse the trend
> of
> > nearly a decade of underfunding our school
> system.
> > This is the year we must begin the restoration
> and
> > rebuilding process. We have heard loud and
> clear
> > from our community they do not want additional
> > cuts to the programs and services that make
> FCPS
> > great."
> >
> > What the fucking fuck? BILLION?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Deep! ()
Date: January 11, 2016 12:16PM

heymack Wrote:
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> Wrong, this is true. I'm not going to out anyone
> on this pathetic site but I can say I know at
> least 4 of them.
>

Just because you may know 4 out of a total fcps staff of near 25000 employees does not mean your knowledge is true. It is simply your opinion of the 4 you know. Opinions does not equal fact.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: dot edu ()
Date: January 11, 2016 12:22PM

Keep in mind that education costs nothing, it pays and pays and pays.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 11, 2016 05:04PM

Soñador Wrote:
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> Somebody's gotta pay for their education.

That is what it comes down to. The law requires that we provide a free education to most of those living here. Some of those you pictured are here legally (even if their parents are not), and the Supreme Court has said we cannot exclude those who are in the U.S. illegally. So we are stuck having to educate them. And that pile of money the Feds give us each year to help pay education costs comes with strings attached.

So it comes down to how much do we spend and how can we get the best bang for our buck within the bounds of the law.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: 09876754 ()
Date: January 11, 2016 05:44PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Soñador Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Somebody's gotta pay for their education.
>
> That is what it comes down to. The law requires
> that we provide a free education to most of those
> living here. Some of those you pictured are here
> legally (even if their parents are not), and the
> Supreme Court has said we cannot exclude those who
> are in the U.S. illegally. So we are stuck having
> to educate them. And that pile of money the Feds
> give us each year to help pay education costs
> comes with strings attached.
>
> So it comes down to how much do we spend and how
> can we get the best bang for our buck within the
> bounds of the law.


Just don't make it TOO pleasant to be educated here. You get the basics and the minimum requirements, and not necessarily the frills.

When they think they can get the whole nine yards, they will suck you dry and flock to this county in droves.

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Donald Trump ()
Date: January 11, 2016 05:49PM

Vote for me and I'll make El Salvador pay that $2.7 billion.

Remember, who's going to pay for the wall? Mexico!

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: January 11, 2016 06:19PM

09876754 Wrote:
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> Just don't make it TOO pleasant to be educated
> here. You get the basics and the minimum
> requirements, and not necessarily the frills.

Do you realize you are condemning every kid in the public school system to the same deal?

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Re: FCPS budget is 2.7 BILLION?!?!!?
Posted by: 9483624 ()
Date: January 11, 2016 07:16PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> 09876754 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just don't make it TOO pleasant to be educated
> > here. You get the basics and the minimum
> > requirements, and not necessarily the frills.
>
> Do you realize you are condemning every kid in the
> public school system to the same deal?

Not necessarily.
There are lots of optional educational frills. Some of these kids and their parents think somebody else is going to pay the whole darn way for them.
All that does is encourage people to come here who really cannot afford this area, and it brings down the quality of life for those who can.
You are fighting a losing battle if you think you can do this in order to preserve your lifestyle and that of your children. They will suck you dry.

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