How tight would that be :)


I don't see why they still have prohibition around... IT FAILS. Political leaders need to stop being the baby boomers bitches and look at the real posistives to legalization. $$$




Honestly, how many people in this forum have smoked marijuana... A LOT? Don't lie. It's far safer than alcohol and cigarettes. Psychological impairment is nowhere close to that of alcohol and health problems nowhere near as bad a cigarettes.


Open you eyes peopleeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Just had your first toke recently?

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Of course he just started smoking , the dumb little shit. This is one fucking retarded thread.

What if all the air in the earth's atmosphere was made of wood? What would that be like?

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> What if all the air in the earth's atmosphere was
> made of wood? What would that be like?




,
Attachments:

We might as well shoot ourselves first?

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> What if all the air in the earth's atmosphere was
> made of wood? What would that be like?

We would have to be Fire Monsters or else we simply couldn't breathe the stuff!

nahh ive been smoking for 2+ years, and they put me on probation and in drug treatment because im "an addict".

its ridiculous how much marijuana has been slandered by the government, nobody even really knows why its outlawed.

whoaa, whadda douchebag.

There would be a lot less trolling and we'd never hear from inkaho...wait dude what..........cough cough,

whoaa Wrote:
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> nahh ive been smoking for 2+ years, and they put
> me on probation and in drug treatment because im
> "an addict".
>
> its ridiculous how much marijuana has been
> slandered by the government, nobody even really
> knows why its outlawed.

Let me know when you turn 18 and can actually do something about it.

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MrMephisto Wrote:

>
> Let me know when you turn 18 and can actually do
> something about it.


what if they lowered the voting age to 16 like regular tobac...wait dude what were we talking nahahahahaha cough

What if the weed was really like, smoking YOU, man?

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> What if the weed was really like, smoking YOU,
> man?


Nahahahahaha Nahahahaha what if like what if wait what if like you werent like getting HIGH off the weed like what if the WEED was like nehehahahehah like the weed was totally smoking ME neheheheheheh wait what?

Fuckin' stoners...

Stoner Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What if the weed was really like, smoking YOU,
> > man?
>
>
> Nahahahahaha Nahahahaha what if like what if wait
> what if like you werent like getting HIGH off the
> weed like what if the WEED was like nehehahahehah
> like the weed was totally smoking ME neheheheheheh
> wait what?

Who the fuck are you!?

More to the point:

Who the fuck are YOU??

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All I'm trying to say, so it's about time the government stops punishing citizens for smoking a plant.

It's all because of the old ass christian-farts that do most of the voting for the bitch ass politicians. Unfortunately, they hold most of the power over this "free" country...

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http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=2544


Our smoking tolerance level is 2. In some parts of the u.s it is pretty legal. Some college town i forget the name its $25 fine for possesion of mj. Just be thankful we don't live in any of the following.


Death penalty
Turkey, Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Iran and Algeria
Heavy prison sentences
Cyprus: zero tolerance policy towards drugs and possession will usually lead to a hefty fine or even life imprisonment
Greece: possession of even small quantities of drugs can lead to lengthy and even life imprisonment
South East Asia: sentences of 40 to 50 years are not uncommon
Harsh sentences
India: 10 years for smoking cannabis
Italy: Up to 20 years imprisonment
Jamaica: Drug offences result in mandatory prison sentences and large fines. Possession of even small quantities can lead to imprisonment
Morocco: Maximum of 10 years imprisonment plus a fine.
Spain: Sentences for carrying can be up to 12 years
Tunisia: Possession of even a small amount of drugs including marijuana could cost you a term in prison, while more serious charges may even result in 20 years imprisonment plus a fine
Turkey: Up to 20 years imprisonment
Venezuela: Drug carriers face minimum 10-year prison sentences in harsh conditions



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WingNut Wrote:
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> whoaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All I'm trying to say, so it's about time the
> > government stops punishing citizens for smoking
> a
> > plant.
> >
> > It's all because of the old ass christian-farts
> > that do most of the voting for the bitch ass
> > politicians. Unfortunately, they hold most of
> the
> > power over this "free" country...
>
> Oh, read your other post. Why were you dumb or
> sloppy enough to get caught?

Charged with truancy with 11 unexcused absences
[which brings me to another point...
i had a 98% in geometry and nothing lower than a C in all my other classes and because i had "unexcused" absences, my sub school principal emailed all my teacher and told them to give me F's for the quarter
fairfax is fucking stupid...]

i was court ordered to start alcohol and drug services(ADS) because they were under the "pretenses" that i use drugs. They piss tested me and i came up positive for thc :/

whoaa Wrote:
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> Charged with truancy with 11 unexcused absences
>
>
> i was court ordered to start alcohol and drug
> services(ADS) because they were under the
> "pretenses" that i use drugs. They piss tested me
> and i came up positive for thc :/

So you knew the rules, chose not to follow them, and now you're upset about the consequences?

Was your mother neglectful or something?

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"Jamaica: Drug offences result in mandatory prison sentences and large fines. Possession of even small quantities can lead to imprisonment"

What a fucking joke.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> whoaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Charged with truancy with 11 unexcused absences
> >
> >
> > i was court ordered to start alcohol and drug
> > services(ADS) because they were under the
> > "pretenses" that i use drugs. They piss tested
> me
> > and i came up positive for thc :/
>
> So you knew the rules, chose not to follow them,
> and now you're upset about the consequences?
>
> Was your mother neglectful or something?


Let me guess MrMephisto, you were a total nerd in school with no friends that loved being the teachers pet...? Am I close?
Skipping school does not mean my mother was neglectful. Nowadays you can't even correlate the two because of the amount of teenagers cutting class. Instead being an obnoxious little piece of shit smartalec, who gets off on knocking people down online, get a life dude. It's hard to get chicks if you're still 40 and you live in your mothers basement...

Yea, I know the rules, but I just believe that they are unjust. I'm not one to follow things that I believe aren't actually right/justifiable.

whoaa Wrote:
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> Let me guess MrMephisto, you were a total nerd in
> school with no friends that loved being the
> teachers pet...? Am I close?
> Skipping school does not mean my mother was
> neglectful. Nowadays you can't even correlate the
> two because of the amount of teenagers cutting
> class. Instead being an obnoxious little piece of
> shit smartalec, who gets off on knocking people
> down online, get a life dude. It's hard to get
> chicks if you're still 40 and you live in your
> mothers basement...
>
> Yea, I know the rules, but I just believe that
> they are unjust. I'm not one to follow things that
> I believe aren't actually right/justifiable.

Say what you want, but between you and I, only one of us skipped school enough to get put into drug rehab. People and kids like you are the main reason why these drugs are outlawed; you successfully played into every stereotype that surrounds The Young Stoner.

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whoaa Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > whoaa Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Charged with truancy with 11 unexcused
> absences
> > >
> > >
> > > i was court ordered to start alcohol and drug
> > > services(ADS) because they were under the
> > > "pretenses" that i use drugs. They piss
> tested
> > me
> > > and i came up positive for thc :/
> >
> > So you knew the rules, chose not to follow
> them,
> > and now you're upset about the consequences?
> >
> > Was your mother neglectful or something?
>
>
> Let me guess MrMephisto, you were a total nerd in
> school with no friends that loved being the
> teachers pet...? Am I close?
> Skipping school does not mean my mother was
> neglectful. Nowadays you can't even correlate the
> two because of the amount of teenagers cutting
> class. Instead being an obnoxious little piece of
> shit smartalec, who gets off on knocking people
> down online, get a life dude. It's hard to get
> chicks if you're still 40 and you live in your
> mothers basement...
>
> Yea, I know the rules, but I just believe that
> they are unjust. I'm not one to follow things that
> I believe aren't actually right/justifiable.

This is one of the more clueless things I've read this year, and I deal with people from Mississippi every day...

whoaa Wrote:
> Yea, I know the rules, but I just believe that
> they are unjust. I'm not one to follow things that
> I believe aren't actually right/justifiable.

If you believe the rules are unjust, you work to change them. You can't just decide not to follow rules you don't like, and then cry like a bitch when you get caught.

FoolSmacker Wrote:
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> If you believe the rules are unjust, you work to
> change them. You can't just decide not to follow
> rules you don't like, and then cry like a bitch
> when you get caught.


I'm just protesting...


MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Say what you want, but between you and I, only one of us skipped school enough > to get put into drug rehab. People and kids like you are the main reason why
> these drugs are outlawed; you successfully played into every stereotype that
> surrounds The Young Stoner.


and MrMephisto, that's not why marijuana outlawed dumbass... They can't outlaw a drug because of someone choices to participate in other activities other than those expected of them... They can't positively correlate the the two anyway. It's supposedly outlawed because of the psychological impairment issues and impairment of locomotive skills, which is nowhere close to that of alcohol.

no it was outlawed because of the dirty mexicans, and industrial companies that would be put out of business because of hemp.

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Dupont is the reason the hemp plant's illegal. The hemp plant would've killed nylon sales back in the 1930's, so they made it illegal to hold marijuana without stamps. Funny thing is, stamp were never printed... It was either the owner of executive or something that happened to also be the drug czar back around the decade weed was outlawed.

The story is somewhat along those lines...

Wingnut- i like you. even though i disagree with you.

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History channel right now is talking about hemp, tobacco, etc. lOL they just said the founding fathers were probably high!!!!! hahaha who whoulda thought

They may be putting up for a vote to legalize medicinal pot in the District. Yeah so you COULD get your smoke on in DC should you get a doctors...uuuuh thingy...that paper....that uuuuh wait dude what?

WingNut Wrote:
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> Some fat smelly hippie wrote about that in "The
> Emperor Has No Clothes", its bullshit, the guy is
> a conspiracy nut who is in denial about anything.
> I think he actually says somewhere that weed smoke
> is GOOD for your lungs.
>
> If you like to smoke, fine. Argue the merits of
> that. The pipe dreamers who talk about hemp fuel
> and the medical miracles of marijuana are full of
> shit with their
> talk.


Funny thing is... the dude's right
check it outtt

http://www.examiner.com/x-3795-NY-Healthcare-Examiner~y2009m6d21-Marijuana-and-cancer--Yes--No

http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2009/jun/03/top_anti_drug_researcher_changes


Crazy isn't it. Funny how this is the complete OPPOSITE of what I learned in school about the horrible effect of marijuana.

whoaa Wrote:
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> Crazy isn't it. Funny how this is the complete
> OPPOSITE of what I learned in school about the
> horrible effect of marijuana.

They're probably also teaching about 9/11 by this point, but won't stop some dumbass kids from believing some conspiracy theory bullshit about how it was a plot by Government Jews With Missiles.

Disregarding the facts that do not back up your belief is NOT thinking for yourself and DOES NOT make you a free, enlightened thinker. It makes you another clueless retard, and please, we already have enough of those in the country.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> Disregarding the facts that do not back up your
> belief is NOT thinking for yourself and DOES NOT
> make you a free, enlightened thinker.

I'm disregarding them because they're not TRUE. I'm not into that conspiracy bullshit. Marijuana is outlawed under false pretenses, and the government is taking tiny, baby steps forward to bringing the issue into full light.

I do believe marijuana will one day become legal with the new generation slowly gaining power... More and more people are leaning towards legalization with the economic struggle, and I guarantee, legalization is bound to happened. Maybe not next year, or the year after that. But it's coming...

All I'm trying to say is prohibition is a waste of time and money... I don't know why you're getting mad and acting like there's a stick up your ass... shit

whoaa Wrote:
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> All I'm trying to say is prohibition is a waste of
> time and money... I don't know why you're getting
> mad and acting like there's a stick up your ass...
> shit

Because you're right, there's a lot of uneducated, preconceived notions about marijuana that are rooted in outdated stereotypes, such as THE KID WHO SMOKES A LOT OF WEED AND SKIPS SCHOOL TO SMOKE MORE WEED.

It will never be legal as long as there are fucktards running around proving that some people are incapable of smoking marijuana and functioning in society. You are a detriment to your own cause.

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Mephisto and I have smoked together lots of times, and I have to say, we could never smoke enough weed to get stupid enough to be at whoaa's level. Mephisto, give it up.. you're not dumb enough to win this.

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If it was legal and his parents were doing it, Whoaaa would be on here talking about how stupid marijuana is and why it should be outlawed.

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Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: June 30, 2009 07:04PM

If it was legal and his parents were doing it, Whoaaa would be on here talking about how stupid marijuana is and why it should be outlawed.

That is not true.

I have a friend and he smokes with his pops, sister, friends all together and he loves weed, so does his pops, and his ma is okay with it. Opposite to what you suggest.

So whhich gas station will he be inheriting?

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he is actually a mechanic. a good one at that.

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mr.no Wrote:
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> he is actually a mechanic. a good one at that.

Well, we can't all be middle managers.

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MrMephisto Wrote:
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> whoaa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > All I'm trying to say is prohibition is a waste
> of
> > time and money... I don't know why you're
> getting
> > mad and acting like there's a stick up your
> ass...
> > shit
>
> Because you're right, there's a lot of uneducated,
> preconceived notions about marijuana that are
> rooted in outdated stereotypes, such as THE KID
> WHO SMOKES A LOT OF WEED AND SKIPS SCHOOL TO SMOKE
> MORE WEED.
>
> It will never be legal as long as there are
> fucktards running around proving that some people
> are incapable of smoking marijuana and functioning
> in society. You are a detriment to your own
> cause.


even if someone is ruining their life with pot, its their life to ruin. If it is legalized the age to smoke should be 21+, after the brain has reached maturity. Its individual choice/responsability

whoaa Wrote:
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> MrMephisto Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Disregarding the facts that do not back up your
> > belief is NOT thinking for yourself and DOES
> NOT
> > make you a free, enlightened thinker.
>
> I'm disregarding them because they're not TRUE.
> I'm not into that conspiracy bullshit. Marijuana
> is outlawed under false pretenses, and the
> government is taking tiny, baby steps forward to
> bringing the issue into full light.
>
> I do believe marijuana will one day become legal
> with the new generation slowly gaining power...
> More and more people are leaning towards
> legalization with the economic struggle, and I
> guarantee, legalization is bound to happened.
> Maybe not next year, or the year after that. But
> it's coming...
>
> All I'm trying to say is prohibition is a waste of
> time and money... I don't know why you're getting
> mad and acting like there's a stick up your ass...
> shit


You are absolutely right that prohibition is a waste of time and money.

What you fail to understand is that the government isn't about efficiency and cost-effectiveness. They live and grow based on TAXATION. It is more cost effective to criminalize marijuana and tax the fuck out of everyone for the ominous "war on drugs" than it is to tax and regulate marijuana.

There are prison guards, private prison corporations, border patrol, coast guard, navy, army, some 30,000 police jurisdictions, courts, lawyers, rehab facilities and so on demanding federal tax dollars, justifying more taxes, and more government authority.

You can't deny that governments never seek to increase freedom, they are in the business of GOVERNING, which means they need dependent, fearful and compliant citizens. Sure, it goes against the constitution, but so does just about everything else. That's the primary reason we have a constitution, to restrict the growth of government. The founding fathers understood that power corrupts and needs restraints. Government will always push against their restraints. The government seeks to grow and become more powerful, while the people either bitch about that or go along with it.



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if they are about controlling every aspect of our lives, why not just switch to a theocracy, adopt christianity like the romans did. Nothing more effective than saying "we may not see you commit the crime, but gOD did! and you're gonna burn in hell for it!". You also forgot to mention how much money the local police get from confiscating cars/houses/boats do to drug trafficing/possesion. Immense amounts of bullshit involved here. I really wish the general public would wake up... its really amazing to me that a majority of the population still thinks marijuana is more harmful than alcohol.

Kenny_Powers Wrote:
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> if they are about controlling every aspect of our
> lives, why not just switch to a theocracy, adopt
> christianity like the romans did. Nothing more
> effective than saying "we may not see you commit
> the crime, but gOD did! and you're gonna burn in
> hell for it!". You also forgot to mention how much
> money the local police get from confiscating
> cars/houses/boats do to drug trafficing/possesion.
> Immense amounts of bullshit involved here. I
> really wish the general public would wake up...
> its really amazing to me that a majority of the
> population still thinks marijuana is more harmful
> than alcohol.


Scarily enough, there are a small but very vocal group of people who actually do wish to make America into a theocracy. They attend super churches and buy all that "religious rock" shit they sell on TV.

Some of them are even trying to mainstream the american nazi party.



You are right, Marijuana is safer than alcohol. It's safer than acetominophen, and all the synthetic opiates you can buy over the counter (Cloricidin, Robotussin, NyQuil, etc.)

Marijuana is benign. But to make that argument is to preach to the choir. We all know that alcohol creates more welfare recipients, more hospital visits, more accidents and more crimes. Marijuana creates people who function and become doctors, lawyers, politicians, computer programmers, inventors, novelists, movie screen writers, and so on and so on.

Thurston Moore Wrote:
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> Kenny_Powers Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > if they are about controlling every aspect of
> our
> > lives, why not just switch to a theocracy,
> adopt
> > christianity like the romans did. Nothing more
> > effective than saying "we may not see you
> commit
> > the crime, but gOD did! and you're gonna burn
> in
> > hell for it!". You also forgot to mention how
> much
> > money the local police get from confiscating
> > cars/houses/boats do to drug
> trafficing/possesion.
> > Immense amounts of bullshit involved here. I
> > really wish the general public would wake up...
> > its really amazing to me that a majority of the
> > population still thinks marijuana is more
> harmful
> > than alcohol.
>
>
> Scarily enough, there are a small but very vocal
> group of people who actually do wish to make
> America into a theocracy. They attend super
> churches and buy all that "religious rock" shit
> they sell on TV.
>
> Some of them are even trying to mainstream the
> american nazi party.
>
>
>
> You are right, Marijuana is safer than alcohol.
> It's safer than acetominophen, and all the
> synthetic opiates you can buy over the counter
> (Cloricidin, Robotussin, NyQuil, etc.)
>
> Marijuana is benign. But to make that argument is
> to preach to the choir. We all know that alcohol
> creates more welfare recipients, more hospital
> visits, more accidents and more crimes. Marijuana
> creates people who function and become doctors,
> lawyers, politicians, computer programmers,
> inventors, novelists, movie screen writers, and so
> on and so on.


+ musicians

My bad.

I was trying to make a point about how many professionals smoke pot, and I forgot about the music professionals. They were probably the pioneers of smoking weed and using it to advance their profession.

lol +1

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whoaa Wrote:
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> I do believe marijuana will one day become legal
> with the new generation slowly gaining power...
> More and more people are leaning towards
> legalization with the economic struggle, and I
> guarantee, legalization is bound to happened.
> Maybe not next year, or the year after that. But
> it's coming...

Back in the 1960s Drug use wasn't simply prevalent, it was commonplace. Literally everyone was doing some form of drug and not just marijuana, but also heavier drugs like Ecstasy, LSD, Barbiturates, Opiates, etc. Now, if THAT generation failed to legalize marijuana, I find it hard pressed to believe that any other generation has much of a chance.

Another aspect working against legalization of marijuana is that most users quit before they hit 30, often even before 25. Generally after quitting, former users are much, much, less interested in marijuana law, simply because it no longer really has an effect on them. Not only does this greatly limit any potential representation in Congress, but younger citizens also tend to have less political influence. Not only are generally portrayed as less credible and have less participation in politics as a whole, but their numbers are also smaller (compare the number of 18-25 year citizens to the number of retirees).

Awesome Wrote:
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> Back in the 1960s Drug use wasn't simply
> prevalent, it was commonplace. Literally everyone
> was doing some form of drug and not just
> marijuana, but also heavier drugs like Ecstasy,
> LSD, Barbiturates, Opiates, etc. Now, if THAT
> generation failed to legalize marijuana, I find it
> hard pressed to believe that any other generation
> has much of a chance.
>
> Another aspect working against legalization of
> marijuana is that most users quit before they hit
> 30, often even before 25. Generally after
> quitting, former users are much, much, less
> interested in marijuana law, simply because it no
> longer really has an effect on them. Not only does
> this greatly limit any potential representation in
> Congress, but younger citizens also tend to have
> less political influence. Not only are generally
> portrayed as less credible and have less
> participation in politics as a whole, but their
> numbers are also smaller (compare the number of
> 18-25 year citizens to the number of retirees).


1. There was NO ecstacy in the 60's and drug use definitely wasn't as common as it is today...
2.We're taking steps to legalizing it, ie. medicinal marijuana, upcoming debates on the issue, cities have decriminalized/legalized it, and the legalization issue is all over the internet. Not to mention new discoveries on the ACTUAL effects of marijuana on health and cancer. It may take a while for the country as a whole to legalize, but on a state level, I think it will happen soon.
3. I didn't skip school to smoke weed... I skipped school to sleep in and not do shit all day. You guys have never done that before...? Weed was wayyyy easier to obtain after school anyway.

i dont think that this country will legalize marijuana until well after many of the worlds most powerful countries legalize it. I still see it villafied on a daily basis by the media, and by many christian conservatives who try and make it an issue of morality... if only jesus smoked blunts, then it would be legal.

by the way... george washington grew and smoked marijuana... just saying.



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whoaa Wrote:
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> 1. There was NO ecstacy in the 60's and drug use
> definitely wasn't as common as it is today...
> 2.We're taking steps to legalizing it, ie.
> medicinal marijuana, upcoming debates on the
> issue, cities have decriminalized/legalized it,
> and the legalization issue is all over the
> internet. Not to mention new discoveries on the
> ACTUAL effects of marijuana on health and cancer.
> It may take a while for the country as a whole to
> legalize, but on a state level, I think it will
> happen soon.
> 3. I didn't skip school to smoke weed... I skipped
> school to sleep in and not do shit all day. You
> guys have never done that before...? Weed was
> wayyyy easier to obtain after school anyway.

1. Ecstasy was available by 1970 though, and the drug indulgent culture of the 60s continued to flourish in the decade. Also, drug use was indeed higher in the 60s and 70s, I don't see how you can argue against that. Even in the military (which is essentially the complete opposite of the counterculture traditionally associated with drugs) drug use was prevalent.
"Soldiers in Vietnam smoked marijuana and took other drugs...Marine commander Major Ives W. Neely claimed "at least 70 to 80 percent" use within his company."
"in 1973, 34 percent of American soldiers in Vietnam had commonly used heroin."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/6331/decades-drug-use-data-from-60s-70s.aspx

2. They've had these debates on legalizing marijuana for years. The Netherlands for instance legalized marijuana in the 70s after an extensive debate. Although new information is being discovered, it probably won't sway enough people to even come close to the number of users during the 60s and 70s, and if they couldn't do it with their numbers it's unlikely anyone else can.

Kenny_Powers Wrote:
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> by the way... george washington grew and smoked marijuana... just saying.

You probably shouldn't use this when arguing for marijuana legalization. Not only is it an argumentative fallacy (appeal to authority) but it's also very easy for someone to point out that he also owned slaves, Ben Franklin was an adulterer, etc.

Thats bullshit. There are FAR more people using drugs in this decade than in the 60's. Cocaine didn't even become that big of an issue until the 70's/80's. More people are getting a hold of marijuana at a much younger age nowadays. Just because it was more socially accepted in the 60's, does NOT mean it was more widely used. After prohibition, there was a SPIKE in alcohol use, due probably to the thrill factor of the drink being illegal.

There's a difference between amount social acceptance and amount of drug use.

Awesome Wrote:

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> Back in the 1960s Drug use wasn't simply
> prevalent, it was commonplace. . Now, if THAT
> generation failed to legalize marijuana, I find it
> hard pressed to believe that any other generation
> has much of a chance.
>

stewart Brand author of the whole earth catalog said,

"Most of the Whole Earth audience has accepted computers, more than any other age group. They've been using technology to mess with their consciousness since they were teenagers. I don't see a tremendous difference between the technology of drugs and the technology of computers, except that drugs are self-limiting and computers appear not to be."

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> Kenny_Powers Wrote:
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> > by the way... george washington grew and smoked
> marijuana... just saying.
>
> You probably shouldn't use this when arguing for
> marijuana legalization. Not only is it an
> argumentative fallacy (appeal to authority) but
> it's also very easy for someone to point out that
> he also owned slaves, Ben Franklin was an
> adulterer, etc.

ofcoarse it doesnt appeal to authority figures, but it appeals to common men, who would be greatly surprised to know that one of (if not THE) most important historical figures in our country grew and smoked hemp (his doctors orders actually). Like I said before... if jesus had smoked marijuana people in this country would look at it in a completely different light. Fuck water into wine... water into chronic.



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haha water into chronic
that'd be nice


obama smoked
so did clinton
and bush did cocaine lmao

its funny how much they let old farts boss around into making, for lack of a better word, stupid choices for this country. i'm not just talking about prohibition either.

we just need to outlive the old people in this country, then maybe some changes will happen... we really need to stop making medicines to keep these people alive... its getting annoying (and expensive... RIP Social Security).