Closing on Church Street just off Lawyers on December 20th. Their Facebook page claims they're looking for another location.

Is a mattress store going to replace it?

B. Robbins Wrote:
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> Closing on Church Street just off Lawyers on
> December 20th. Their Facebook page claims they're
> looking for another location.

It'll be difficult to find a location that's as good, but with the upscale development along Church Street, rents are getting to be pretty substantial. There would be some potential for better deals along Mill Street and Dominion Road along the bike path, so we'll see. They have a quality product going for them.

Nmm9F Wrote:
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> Is a mattress store going to replace it?

No, and probably not a bank either.

If not a mattress store or bank, then probably a 7-11, Subway, or another goddamn pharmacy. That seems to be the only things opening anywhere these days

Step by step, piece by piece, we lose another fragment of the old Fairfax County. One day we will read the story about the Vienna Inn being closed to build another Walgreens or Chick-fil-a.

Peter Pan Variety Store Wrote:
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> Step by step, piece by piece, we lose another
> fragment of the old Fairfax County. One day we
> will read the story about the Vienna Inn being
> closed to build another Walgreens or Chick-fil-a.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYP1OBZfFK0

I always wondered how they stayed open in the winter selling custard.

that sucks Wrote:
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> If not a mattress store or bank, then probably a 7-11, Subway, or
> another goddamn pharmacy. That seems to be the only things opening
> anywhere these days

Certainly you've been to Clarity and Zoe's Kitchen, but Have you tried Basillini yet? How about Chase the Submarine? Chop't and MOD Pizza are on their way into the old Magruders space as well.

Peter Pan Variety Store Wrote:
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One day we will read the story about the Vienna Inn being closed

And why would that bother anyone? Vienna Inn is a fucking dump that should be shut down by Code Enforcement. If you can see through the floor of the mens' room into the basement, there might be a structural issue.

F' Vienna Wrote:
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> Peter Pan Variety Store Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> One day we will read the story about the Vienna
> Inn being closed
>
> And why would that bother anyone? Vienna Inn is a
> fucking dump that should be shut down by Code
> Enforcement. If you can see through the floor of
> the mens' room into the basement, there might be a
> structural issue.

Is that the nasty place that serves hot dogs from the bar counter without performing any sort of sanitary measurements. Fucking nasty.

also sold food, but...I'm guessing the rent is pretty high for that location. My wife and I used to stop by there on occasion 6-7 years ago, as the custard was pretty good. But the fucking prices started skyrocketing through the roof, for what are pretty small portions. A little over two weeks ago, I said..what the fuck, lets go to Nielsen's, we hadn't been there for a good three years. Both got the medium sized portion of custard, over $14 dollars, and the portion was pathetic, and we aren't fat pigs. We were reminded of why we stopped going, ripoff prices. When Coldstone is the bargain alternative, you know you have issues. A couple of days later I saw the Closing on Dec. 20 sign painted on the window. It was an institution, but my guess it was probably a confluence of the rent and sagging sales.

You can't charge high prices in Vienna and hope to survive as a business. It's not where the high-rollers live and many Vienna residents can barely afford the mortgages on their cookie-cutter McMansions.

THat place was famous for supplying the custard for 2 Girls One Cup right?

Nielsen's Frozen Libtards Wrote:
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> You can't charge high prices in Vienna and hope to survive as
> a business. It's not where the high-rollers live and many
> Vienna residents can barely afford the mortgages on their
> cookie-cutter McMansions.

That's funny. Pricey Whole Foods and Fresh Market seem to do well enough in Vienna, right along with Bonaroti's, Maple Avenue Restaurant, Cafe Renaissance, Clarity, Pazzo Pomodoro and so on. And if you needed to drop a couple of grand on getting a CT scan for your cat or dog, guess where you'd go.

B. Robbins Wrote:
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> Closing on Church Street just off Lawyers on
> December 20th. Their Facebook page claims they're
> looking for another location.


Yes, it is closing "just off Lawyers" because that is where it is located.

that sucks Wrote:
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> If not a mattress store or bank, then probably a
> 7-11, Subway, or another goddamn pharmacy. That
> seems to be the only things opening anywhere these
> days

As long as they pay their taxes, unlike a certain custard store and a certain hardware store.

The Inn is one of the best places in Vienna.

Sorry to hear Nielsen's is closed.

vienna accountant Wrote:
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> that sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If not a mattress store or bank, then probably
> a
> > 7-11, Subway, or another goddamn pharmacy.
> That
> > seems to be the only things opening anywhere
> these
> > days
>
> As long as they pay their taxes, unlike a certain
> custard store and a certain hardware store.


^^^ Good one...pay your damn taxes and get the tractor off the road.

Maple Avenue loves you Wrote:
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> That's funny. Pricey Whole Foods and Fresh Market seem to do
> well enough in Vienna, right along with Bonaroti's, Maple Avenue
> Restaurant, Cafe Renaissance, Clarity, Pazzo Pomodoro and so on.
> And if you needed to drop a couple of grand on getting a CT scan
> for your cat or dog, guess where you'd go.

Wow! You left out Bazin's, Maplewood Grill, Plaka Grill, Skorpios, Sweet Ginger, and Yama. One of the great things about Vienna is the array of excellent dining options that it offers.

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> Maple Avenue loves you Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > That's funny. Pricey Whole Foods and Fresh
> Market seem to do
> > well enough in Vienna, right along with
> Bonaroti's, Maple Avenue
> > Restaurant, Cafe Renaissance, Clarity, Pazzo
> Pomodoro and so on.
> > And if you needed to drop a couple of grand on
> getting a CT scan
> > for your cat or dog, guess where you'd go.
>
> Wow! You left out Bazin's, Maplewood Grill, Plaka
> Grill, Skorpios, Sweet Ginger, and Yama. One of
> the great things about Vienna is the array of
> excellent dining options that it offers.

Typical middle-brow, coronary-inducing suburban slop. An array of mediocrity for people who wear North Face to buy groceries and live in tacky McMansions.

Steve Fuckont Wrote:
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> Typical middle-brow, coronary-inducing suburban slop. An array
> of mediocrity for people who wear North Face to buy groceries
> and live in tacky McMansions.

You might be happier eating at my bird feeder. No cover. No minimum. High quality. Open 24/7 while supplies last.

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> Steve Fuckont Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Typical middle-brow, coronary-inducing suburban
> slop. An array
> > of mediocrity for people who wear North Face to
> buy groceries
> > and live in tacky McMansions.
>
> You might be happier eating at my bird feeder. No
> cover. No minimum. High quality. Open 24/7 while
> supplies last.

The supplies will last about two minutes before the fucking deer eat all of it. And then five minutes later they'll be road kill on Lawyers Road.

Deer don't like birdseed. They eat it only as a last resort. Three feet of snow. Population above sustainable levels. That sort of thing. Those who come from far and wide to dine at Vienna's many fine restaurants are in a much different situation. Too bad you can't afford to be among them.

Deer don't like birdseed Wrote:
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> Deer don't like birdseed. They eat it only as a
> last resort. Three feet of snow. Population
> above sustainable levels. That sort of thing.
> Those who come from far and wide to dine at
> Vienna's many fine restaurants are in a much
> different situation. Too bad you can't afford to
> be among them.

The people who eat in Vienna's crap restaurants usually are fat and wide, but they don't come from much further away than Oakton.

Sigsltistislutd Wrote:
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> The people who eat in Vienna's crap restaurants usually are fat and
> wide, but they don't come from much further away than Oakton.

Actually, they look very much like folks anywhere else would. Except of course that anywhere else is not going to have the broad upscale dining appeal that Vienna has. Which is why people flock to Vienna from all over when they want a top-notch meal.

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> Sigsltistislutd Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The people who eat in Vienna's crap restaurants
> usually are fat and
> > wide, but they don't come from much further away
> than Oakton.
>
> Actually, they look very much like folks anywhere
> else would. Except of course that anywhere else
> is not going to have the broad upscale dining
> appeal that Vienna has. Which is why people flock
> to Vienna from all over when they want a top-notch
> meal.

People do not flock to Vienna for anything. They just suffer through the mind-numbing traffic and the endless parade of butt-ugly strip malls, drive-throughs and mattress stores.

vienna accountant Wrote:
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> that sucks Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If not a mattress store or bank, then probably
> a
> > 7-11, Subway, or another goddamn pharmacy.
> That
> > seems to be the only things opening anywhere
> these
> > days
>
> As long as they pay their taxes, unlike a certain
> custard store and a certain hardware store.

I had heard a while back that they were a little lax about paying their rent on time. If they are delinquent in paying taxes, can whoever is owed put conditions on any possible reopening?

I thought it was a bunch of Mormons running the store. Maybe they should have tithed their landlord first.

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> the broad upscale dining

Just curious. What do you consider in the town of Vienna to be upscale dining? I am not doubting there are some decent restaurants in Vienna, but not anything that I would call truly upscale.

Ox Roadie Wrote:
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> People do not flock to Vienna for anything.

Wrong. So very, very wrong. The range and quality of the Vienna dining scene packs them into town on a regular basis. Compare and contrast the dozen or so palate-pleasers already noted above to the likes of Famous Dave's, Honey Pig, or Meat in a Box. LOL! Then there is the array of holiday festivals that regularly bring tens of thousands to town.

> They just suffer through the mind-numbing traffic and the
> endless parade of butt-ugly strip malls, drive-throughs
> and mattress stores.

Oh my! Only low-grade West County losers manage to get themselves bogged down on 123 during rush hour. This of course is exactly what the town has planned for them. Sorry to hear so much evidence that you've not managed to become anything more than another pitiful victim.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Just curious. What do you consider in the town of
> Vienna to be upscale dining? I am not doubting
> there are some decent restaurants in Vienna, but
> not anything that I would call truly upscale.

There are two categories of upscale -- fine dining, and upscale-casual. Vienna
has examples of both -- Bonaroti's vs Bazin's, for instance. What you or I might call things is not actually relevant, as restaurants define themselves by what they deliver and how they deliver it.

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> Ox Roadie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People do not flock to Vienna for anything.
>
> Wrong. So very, very wrong. The range and
> quality of the Vienna dining scene packs them into
> town on a regular basis. Compare and contrast the
> dozen or so palate-pleasers already noted above to
> the likes of Famous Dave's, Honey Pig, or Meat in
> a Box. LOL! Then there is the array of holiday
> festivals that regularly bring tens of thousands
> to town.
>
> > They just suffer through the mind-numbing
> traffic and the
> > endless parade of butt-ugly strip malls,
> drive-throughs
> > and mattress stores.
>
> Oh my! Only low-grade West County losers manage
> to get themselves bogged down on 123 during rush
> hour. This of course is exactly what the town has
> planned for them. Sorry to hear so much evidence
> that you've not managed to become anything more
> than another pitiful victim.



Oh great, just like the plague, the smarmy asshole returns....

Dinnertime Wrote:
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> Ox Roadie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > People do not flock to Vienna for anything.
>
> Wrong. So very, very wrong. The range and
> quality of the Vienna dining scene packs them into
> town on a regular basis. Compare and contrast the
> dozen or so palate-pleasers already noted above to
> the likes of Famous Dave's, Honey Pig, or Meat in
> a Box. LOL! Then there is the array of holiday
> festivals that regularly bring tens of thousands
> to town.
>
> > They just suffer through the mind-numbing
> traffic and the
> > endless parade of butt-ugly strip malls,
> drive-throughs
> > and mattress stores.
>
> Oh my! Only low-grade West County losers manage
> to get themselves bogged down on 123 during rush
> hour. This of course is exactly what the town has
> planned for them. Sorry to hear so much evidence
> that you've not managed to become anything more
> than another pitiful victim.


The likelihood of being bogged down on 123 and having to pay too much to eat at a mediocre place located in a strip mall is why nobody flocks to Vienna.

Ox Roadie Wrote:
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> Dinnertime Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sigsltistislutd Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The people who eat in Vienna's crap
> restaurants
> > usually are fat and
> > > wide, but they don't come from much further
> away
> > than Oakton.
> >
> > Actually, they look very much like folks
> anywhere
> > else would. Except of course that anywhere
> else
> > is not going to have the broad upscale dining
> > appeal that Vienna has. Which is why people
> flock
> > to Vienna from all over when they want a
> top-notch
> > meal.
>
> People do not flock to Vienna for anything. They
> just suffer through the mind-numbing traffic and
> the endless parade of butt-ugly strip malls,
> drive-throughs and mattress stores.

There are plenty of alternate ways to avoid Maple.

You can drive endlessly around the block and never have to go on 123 at all. If however you wish to get from one side of Vienna to the other, your choices will be creeping along on 123 or using the alternate routes to bypass the town that have been thoughtfully provided for you. These have names like Nutley, Lee Highway, Cedar Lane, and Gallows on the south side of town, but pretty much just 267 on the north side.

LOL... Wrote:
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> You can drive endlessly around the block and never
> have to go on 123 at all. If however you wish to
> get from one side of Vienna to the other, your
> choices will be creeping along on 123 or using the
> alternate routes to bypass the town that have been
> thoughtfully provided for you. These have names
> like Nutley, Lee Highway, Cedar Lane, and Gallows
> on the south side of town, but pretty much just
> 267 on the north side.


You might want to get put and about more. There are numerous arteries through Vienna that allow for a bypass of Vienna within the town limits.

side street driver Wrote:
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> You might want to get put and about more. There
> are numerous arteries through Vienna that allow
> for a bypass of Vienna within the town limits.

None have been built since the last time your sorry ass was slashed over this ridiculous claim. Idiotic resort to town snow-plow priorities did not serve you well then, and it won't now. There are further no diagonal cut-throughs on town streets that lead from southbound Gallows to Park. And of course, streets that are two stinking blocks long with a STOP sign in the middle are NOT arteries, you permanently hapless stupid shit.

Your actual options here are...

1. Sit and stew in traffic on 123.

2. Use established bypass routes to go around the town.

3. Waste time and gas trying to navigate the morass of cul-de-sacs, T-intersections, 4-way stops, dips, speed bumps, and chicanes that will very slowly lead you either to one of the bypass routes that you should have taken to begin with (Option-2), or back to 123 (Option-1).

LOL... Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You might want to get put and about more.
> There
> > are numerous arteries through Vienna that allow
> > for a bypass of Vienna within the town limits.
>
> None have been built since the last time your
> sorry ass was slashed over this ridiculous claim.
> Idiotic resort to town snow-plow priorities did
> not serve you well then, and it won't now. There
> are further no diagonal cut-throughs on town
> streets that lead from southbound Gallows to Park.
> And of course, streets that are two stinking
> blocks long with a STOP sign in the middle are NOT
> arteries, you permanently hapless stupid shit.
>
> Your actual options here are...
>
> 1. Sit and stew in traffic on 123.
>
> 2. Use established bypass routes to go around the
> town.
>
> 3. Waste time and gas trying to navigate the
> morass of cul-de-sacs, T-intersections, 4-way
> stops, dips, speed bumps, and chicanes that will
> very slowly lead you either to one of the bypass
> routes that you should have taken to begin with
> (Option-2), or back to 123 (Option-1).


Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday afternoon/evening:

Chain Bridge Rd. to Courthouse to Ware to Kingsley to Park to Cedar to Gallows over the Gallows Branch bridge and in the garage 7 minutes before the predicted time had I used Maple.

Eat it, asshole.

LOL... Wrote:
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>
> Your actual options here are...
>
> 1. Sit and stew in traffic on 123.
>
> 2. Use established bypass routes to go around the
> town.
>
> 3. Waste time and gas trying to navigate the
> morass of cul-de-sacs, T-intersections, 4-way
> stops, dips, speed bumps, and chicanes that will
> very slowly lead you either to one of the bypass
> routes that you should have taken to begin with
> (Option-2), or back to 123 (Option-1).


^ That's why nobody does or should bother going into Vienna.

Nothing there worth dealing with that crap.

side street driver Wrote:
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> LOL... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > side street driver Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You might want to get put and about more.
> > There
> > > are numerous arteries through Vienna that
> allow
> > > for a bypass of Vienna within the town
> limits.
> >
> > None have been built since the last time your
> > sorry ass was slashed over this ridiculous
> claim.
> > Idiotic resort to town snow-plow priorities did
> > not serve you well then, and it won't now.
> There
> > are further no diagonal cut-throughs on town
> > streets that lead from southbound Gallows to
> Park.
> > And of course, streets that are two stinking
> > blocks long with a STOP sign in the middle are
> NOT
> > arteries, you permanently hapless stupid shit.
> >
> > Your actual options here are...
> >
> > 1. Sit and stew in traffic on 123.
> >
> > 2. Use established bypass routes to go around
> the
> > town.
> >
> > 3. Waste time and gas trying to navigate the
> > morass of cul-de-sacs, T-intersections, 4-way
> > stops, dips, speed bumps, and chicanes that
> will
> > very slowly lead you either to one of the
> bypass
> > routes that you should have taken to begin with
> > (Option-2), or back to 123 (Option-1).
>
>
> Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday afternoon/evening:
>
> Chain Bridge Rd. to Courthouse to Ware to Kingsley
> to Park to Cedar to Gallows over the Gallows
> Branch bridge and in the garage 7 minutes before
> the predicted time had I used Maple.
>
> Eat it, asshole.

So you're the cretin who cuts through my SW Vienna neighborhood on your way to Tysons all the time?

Stay on 123, you piece of shit. I didn't buy my "custom" McMansion so I could look at your headlights every weekend!

Frozzen Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL... Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > side street driver Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You might want to get put and about more.
> > > There
> > > > are numerous arteries through Vienna that
> > allow
> > > > for a bypass of Vienna within the town
> > limits.
> > >
> > > None have been built since the last time your
> > > sorry ass was slashed over this ridiculous
> > claim.
> > > Idiotic resort to town snow-plow priorities
> did
> > > not serve you well then, and it won't now.
> > There
> > > are further no diagonal cut-throughs on town
> > > streets that lead from southbound Gallows to
> > Park.
> > > And of course, streets that are two stinking
> > > blocks long with a STOP sign in the middle
> are
> > NOT
> > > arteries, you permanently hapless stupid
> shit.
> > >
> > > Your actual options here are...
> > >
> > > 1. Sit and stew in traffic on 123.
> > >
> > > 2. Use established bypass routes to go around
> > the
> > > town.
> > >
> > > 3. Waste time and gas trying to navigate the
> > > morass of cul-de-sacs, T-intersections, 4-way
> > > stops, dips, speed bumps, and chicanes that
> > will
> > > very slowly lead you either to one of the
> > bypass
> > > routes that you should have taken to begin
> with
> > > (Option-2), or back to 123 (Option-1).
> >
> >
> > Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday
> afternoon/evening:
> >
> > Chain Bridge Rd. to Courthouse to Ware to
> Kingsley
> > to Park to Cedar to Gallows over the Gallows
> > Branch bridge and in the garage 7 minutes
> before
> > the predicted time had I used Maple.
> >
> > Eat it, asshole.
>
> So you're the cretin who cuts through my SW Vienna
> neighborhood on your way to Tysons all the time?
>
>
> Stay on 123, you piece of shit. I didn't buy my
> "custom" McMansion so I could look at your
> headlights every weekend!


You should be thanking me. I actually class up your neighborhood when I cut through it. Not that it is that difficult as Goober Pyle would class up most of Vienna!

Peter Pan ????? You went all the way back and then some. Stop by the Rolling road and give me a ride to CL Barnes. I want to get something to eat at BurgerChef or maybe Conrads. Go to A&P FOr a 6 pack.

side street driver Wrote:
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> Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday afternoon/evening:

No offense, dude, but traffic issues on northbound 123 occur during the MORNING rush hour. On a typical afternoon or evening, it would be a simple matter to drive from Fairfax to Tysons just by sticking to 123.

Merry Christmas, by the way.

Frozzen Wrote:
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> Stay on 123, you piece of shit. I didn't buy my
> "custom" McMansion so I could look at your
> headlights every weekend!

How about Laurie DiRocco's headlights?

Traffic reporter Wrote:
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> > side street driver Wrote:
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday afternoon/evening:
>
> No offense, dude, but traffic issues on northbound 123 occur
> during the MORNING rush hour. On a typical afternoon or evening,
> it would be a simple matter to drive from Fairfax to Tysons just
> by sticking to 123.

What a hoot! The moron bobbles the ball on the difference between morning and afternoon/evening! Head Start kids have that shit down, but not this asshole!

And of course, even though it wasn't needed, the route that the asshole claims to have driven is simply the "drive around" route (Option #2 above) amended by a needless and time-wasting detour onto town streets that no sane person would actually want to use. It would have been quicker and easier simply to main-drag it down Nutley to a left on Lee Highway. This of course would have been even more the case during the AM rush, but the dumbfuck doesn't apparently know when that is. He just hasn't been able to grasp anything here. What a total loser!

LOL... Wrote:
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> What a hoot! The moron bobbles the ball on the difference
> between morning and afternoon/evening! Head Start kids have
> that shit down, but not this asshole!

Asshole is right! That's incredibly weak. Even if we went easy on the dude and measured by Falls Church standards.

> And of course, even though it wasn't needed, the route that
> the asshole claims to have driven is simply the "drive around"
> route (Option #2 above) amended by a needless and time-wasting
> detour onto town streets that no sane person would actually
> want to use. It would have been quicker and easier simply to
> main-drag it down Nutley to a left on Lee Highway. This of
> course would have been even more the case during the AM rush,
> but the dumbfuck doesn't apparently know when that is. He just
> hasn't been able to grasp anything here. What a total loser!

Correct again. There would have been no reason at all to have left the main drags. No time would have been saved. Even in the morning. those "drive around" routes have flow priority, whereas side streets would become a stop-and-slow morass in very short order. This guy can't tell time at all and he can't drive around very well either. What a dope!

B. Robbins Wrote:
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> Closing on Church Street just off Lawyers on
> December 20th. Their Facebook page claims they're
> looking for another location.

Headed westbound through Vienna this afternoon, and it sure did look like Mattress Discounters or whatever it was across the street from Sleepy's has plumb cleared out and given up the ghost. All I could make out through the front window driving by was an expanse of floor tile. Might need to do a double-check, but what's the world coming to if mattress stores can't stay open in Vienna anymore?

Dog My Cats! Wrote:
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> B. Robbins Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Closing on Church Street just off Lawyers on
> > December 20th. Their Facebook page claims
> they're
> > looking for another location.
>
> Headed westbound through Vienna this afternoon,
> and it sure did look like Mattress Discounters or
> whatever it was across the street from Sleepy's
> has plumb cleared out and given up the ghost. All
> I could make out through the front window driving
> by was an expanse of floor tile. Might need to
> do a double-check, but what's the world coming to
> if mattress stores can't stay open in Vienna
> anymore?

That was inevitable. The traffic on 123 is so bad that no one drives through Vienna if they can avoid it. Soon there will only be banks and gas stations in Vienna.

Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
--Yogi Berra

See if it sinks in Wrote:
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> Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
> --Yogi Berra

Apparently, it did not sink in with you. The assertion was not that no one drives through Vienna; rather, it was that no one drives through Vienna if they can avoid it. See the difference? I didn't think so.

As long as we're talking about Vienna, is the Thai place in the bank building any good? I keep meaning to check it out..

FamicomVR Wrote:
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> As long as we're talking about Vienna, is the Thai
> place in the bank building any good? I keep
> meaning to check it out..

Tara Thai? Too late. Nobody goes there anymore.

Tom Yam Goong Wrote:
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> FamicomVR Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As long as we're talking about Vienna, is the
> Thai
> > place in the bank building any good? I keep
> > meaning to check it out..
>
> Tara Thai? Too late. Nobody goes there anymore.


Replaced by...not another mattress store...but a replacement Thai restaurant...Toy Tom Yam, or something like that...

Pud Thigh Wrote:
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> Tom Yam Goong Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FamicomVR Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > As long as we're talking about Vienna, is the
> > Thai
> > > place in the bank building any good? I keep
> > > meaning to check it out..
> >
> > Tara Thai? Too late. Nobody goes there
> anymore.
>
>
> Replaced by...not another mattress store...but a
> replacement Thai restaurant...Toy Tom Yam, or
> something like that...

Tom Yum Thai: http://www.yelp.com/biz/tom-yum-thai-vienna

Lincoln Navigator Wrote:
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> LOL... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What a hoot! The moron bobbles the ball on the
> difference
> > between morning and afternoon/evening! Head
> Start kids have
> > that shit down, but not this asshole!
>
> Asshole is right! That's incredibly weak. Even
> if we went easy on the dude and measured by Falls
> Church standards.
>
> > And of course, even though it wasn't needed, the
> route that
> > the asshole claims to have driven is simply the
> "drive around"
> > route (Option #2 above) amended by a needless
> and time-wasting
> > detour onto town streets that no sane person
> would actually
> > want to use. It would have been quicker and
> easier simply to
> > main-drag it down Nutley to a left on Lee
> Highway. This of
> > course would have been even more the case during
> the AM rush,
> > but the dumbfuck doesn't apparently know when
> that is. He just
> > hasn't been able to grasp anything here. What a
> total loser!
>
> Correct again. There would have been no reason at
> all to have left the main drags. No time would
> have been saved. Even in the morning. those
> "drive around" routes have flow priority, whereas
> side streets would become a stop-and-slow morass
> in very short order. This guy can't tell time at
> all and he can't drive around very well either.
> What a dope!

Wow, so butthurt you had to post and then respond to yourself two more times.

Well, you seem to think that traffic can exist in only one direction during certain times of the day. Anyone who finds himself out at any time of day in this area can incur oppressive traffic due to an accident, construction, special event, or any other reason. There is not much of a consistent reverse commute going on these days. Ask anyone sitting westbound on 66 every morning between Glebe and the Toll Road or those sitting eastbound between 123 on the Toll Road and Glebe on 66 during the evenings.

On the particular evening in question, it was the last Friday before Christmas so there were a ton if shoppers heading up 123 to Tyson's. It was also opening weekend for the Star Wars movie. In case you hadn't heard, it did quite well at the box office drawing thousands more each day to Tyson's that weekend. 123 northbound was running quite slow. Onboard GPS, Waze, and Scout all confirmed it. Bottom line, I saved time cutting through Vienna and I will continue to do it anytime it will save me time.

As for your proposal to head down Nutley to Lee, if I were an idiot like you, it might seem like a logical alternative. It is further out of the way, has many more traffic lights and far more vehicles. Hell, I was well onto Park heading to Cedar in the time it would have taken me to get to Lee via your idiotic route.

Look, I get it, you don't like people cutting through your rundown south Vienna neighborhoods. Three words: deal with it.

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> Well, you seem to think that traffic can exist in only one direction
> during certain times of the day.

Dude, you went from making an ass of yourself to making a GIGANTIC ass of yourself. The universe is not expanding quickly enough to accommodate anything much larger.

Just two words are needed here to sum up your situation:

GAME OVER!

LOL.... Wrote:
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> Just two words are needed here to sum up your
> situation:
>
> GAME OVER!


It was over when you decided to respond under three different names. Your butthurtedness was in full display for all to see. It was over when you demonstrated your complete lack of understanding about local traffic and local traffic patterns. You just proved it with your last post. No substance, all ad hominem.

Get out of your mom's Vienna basement sometime. Until then, expect to have your worthless, pathetic, lying ass handed to you on a regular basis. Meanwhile, I'll be slicing and dicing my way through Vienna the same way I sliced and diced my way through your butthurt bullshit! You simply wish you could navigate your way around 123 and 29. You're just too damn stupid to do so!

Dog My Cats! Wrote:
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> Headed westbound through Vienna this afternoon,
> and it sure did look like Mattress Discounters or
> whatever it was across the street from Sleepy's
> has plumb cleared out and given up the ghost. All
> I could make out through the front window driving
> by was an expanse of floor tile. Might need to
> do a double-check, but what's the world coming to
> if mattress stores can't stay open in Vienna
> anymore?

Ate at Rose Kabob last night, and I thought the same thing. Didn't have time to check in detail, but it sure looked from across the street like the place had been cleared out. Wow and double-wow!

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> Well, you seem to think that traffic can exist in
> only one direction during certain times of the
> day.

There's morning, there's noon, and there's night. Most people know the difference. You seem to be an exception to the rule. But I'm sure this is not the first time you've flat out peed all over yourself. Be a man. Just own it and move on.

Trip Advisor Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
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> > Well, you seem to think that traffic can exist
> in
> > only one direction during certain times of the
> > day.
>
> There's morning, there's noon, and there's night.
> Most people know the difference. You seem to be
> an exception to the rule. But I'm sure this is
> not the first time you've flat out peed all over
> yourself. Be a man. Just own it and move on.

How many sock puppet names are you going to post under in attempt to prop up your ever so feeble claim? Anyone who drives in this area knows that traffic can occur at any time of day in any direction for a myriad of reasons. Every time you a attempt to deny it, you make yourself look like even more of an idiot and I have no problem pointing it out.

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> The Inn is one of the best places in Vienna.

It's certainly one of the most beloved places in Vienna. It's the great equalizer -- where PhD government workers and GED highway workers sit down and rub elbows over drafts and dogs while talking sports, politics, music, or whatever else is on their minds. Nobody's special at The Inn -- yet everybody's special at The Inn. Kids of course absolutely love the place, so it's great for families too.

> Sorry to hear Nielsen's is closed.

Don't give up hope. They may well be back somewhere at some point.

Vienna = comfort food Wrote:
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> Tom Yum Thai:
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/tom-yum-thai-vienna

http://www.tomyumthaivienna.com

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> How many sock puppet names are you going to post
> under in attempt to prop up your ever so feeble
> claim?

How many people are going to come by and laugh at your stupid mistake before you decide to own up to it? What a douche!

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> You simply wish you could navigate your way around 123 and 29.
> You're just too damn stupid to do so!

The options were laid out for you above. You can stick it out on 123 through town or follow the bypass routes that have been provided for you. In trying to cut through town streets in the morning, you will only be abandoning the priority 35 mph bypass flow in favor of a stop-and-go, max 25 mph battle through interminable 4-way stops, t-intersections, dips, speed bumps, and snarls of school-related traffic, only to be dumped right back onto 123 or a bypass route that you could have taken to begin with.

Of course, none of that shows up on a google map, so you're entirely unaware of any of it. Dumbass.

Trip Advisor Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How many sock puppet names are you going to post
>
> > under in attempt to prop up your ever so feeble
> > claim?
>
> How many people are going to come by and laugh at
> your stupid mistake before you decide to own up to
> it? What a douche!

Including you? Just one. Exactly one. No more, no less. You're wrong of course. You're just too stupid and too stubborn to admit it.

LOL.... Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
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> -----
> > You simply wish you could navigate your way
> around 123 and 29.
> > You're just too damn stupid to do so!
>
> The options were laid out for you above. You can
> stick it out on 123 through town or follow the
> bypass routes that have been provided for you. In
> trying to cut through town streets in the morning,
> you will only be abandoning the priority 35 mph
> bypass flow in favor of a stop-and-go, max 25 mph
> battle through interminable 4-way stops,
> t-intersections, dips, speed bumps, and snarls of
> school-related traffic, only to be dumped right
> back onto 123 or a bypass route that you could
> have taken to begin with.
>
> Of course, none of that shows up on a google map,
> so you're entirely unaware of any of it. Dumbass.


I have my cut through and it blows your options out of the water. Now blow it out your retarded ass!

GAME STILL OVER!

Stupid little whiny-baby loser!
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> Including you? Just one. Exactly one. No more,
> no less. You're wrong of course. You're just too
> stupid and too stubborn to admit it.

You count even worse than you tell time. You've made yourself nothing but an object of ridicule here. Like a boy who keeps falling off his bike.

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> side street driver Wrote:
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> > Including you? Just one. Exactly one. No
> more,
> > no less. You're wrong of course. You're just
> too
> > stupid and too stubborn to admit it.
>
> You count even worse than you tell time. You've
> made yourself nothing but an object of ridicule
> here. Like a boy who keeps falling off his bike.

Nope. Not that hard to count above one. You haven't fooled anyone. You couldnt even wait an hour between multiple posts. I bet you won't be able to wait an hour between your next two posts either!

You're just a butthurt little bitch. You're angry stupidity I'd quite entertaining to many though!

Come on let's see how many sock puppets you can play with at once!

Aaaaaaaaah!
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side street driver Wrote:
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> You're angry stupidity I'd quite entertaining to many though!

Dude, you aren't helping yourself. Not that such a thing was possible to begin with.

side street driver Wrote:
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>
> Nope. Not that hard to count above one. You
> haven't fooled anyone. You couldnt even wait an
> hour between multiple posts. I bet you won't be
> able to wait an hour between your next two posts
> either!
>
> You're just a butthurt little bitch. You're angry
> stupidity I'd quite entertaining to many though!
>
> Come on let's see how many sock puppets you can
> play with at once!


He always does that when he knows that he's lost.

LOL.... Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
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> > You're angry stupidity I'd quite entertaining to
> many though!
>
> Dude, you aren't helping yourself. Not that such a
> thing was possible to begin with.


I really don't need any help to beat the shit out of a simpleton like you. Your road kill that has been flattened after holiday traffic at this point.

Oh, are you referring to an autocorrect typo? You do know that "d" is right next to "s" don't you? LOL, you think you actually had a point.

Change the sheets, son, you've really shit the bed.

Which sock puppet do you want to respond with?

I can deliver fresh warm custard. Nobody gets mad about my custard.

side street driver Wrote:
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> LOL.... Wrote:
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> > side street driver Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You're angry stupidity I'd quite entertaining
> to
> > many though!
> >
> > Dude, you aren't helping yourself. Not that such
> a
> > thing was possible to begin with.
>
>
> I really don't need any help to beat the shit out
> of a simpleton like you. Your road kill that has
> been flattened after holiday traffic at this
> point.
>
> Oh, are you referring to an autocorrect typo? You
> do know that "d" is right next to "s" don't you?
> LOL, you think you actually had a point.
>
> Change the sheets, son, you've really shit the
> bed.
>
> Which sock puppet do you want to respond with?

"You're" should be "your."

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> "You're" should be "your."

Yeah, it's not like he got ANY part of it right. The entire thread has been sort of like that for him. No better luck elsewhere either. Imagine that...

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> sidecar driver Wrote:
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> > "You're" should be "your."
>
> Yeah, it's not like he got ANY part of it right.
> The entire thread has been sort of like that for
> him. No better luck elsewhere either. Imagine
> that...


LOL! As predicted. Two posts within an hour. You've got the sock puppets working overtime. I guess when you run out of substantive points, point out typos. I've got a hankering for some Anita's today. I think I'll cut down Park from Cedar, then onto Locust and Branch. Echols then Berry and only have to endure Maple for a few dozen feet. Works for me! You'll just have to suck it up!

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> LOL! As predicted. Two posts within an hour.

Again, with the counting failures.

> You've got the sock puppets working overtime.

So, here's the deal. FucKING EVERYBODY who passes by sees you as a COMPLETE MORON. That's just how it's going for you here.

> I've got a hankering for some Anita's today. I think I'll
> cut down Park from Cedar, then onto Locust and Branch.
> Echols then Berry and only have to endure Maple for a few
> dozen feet. Works for me! You'll just have to suck it up!

That would make some sense if you lived in the Cedar Park apartments. If you were coming from someplace like Oakton for example, it would be just as mind-numbingly stupid as all your other traffic ideas have been.

LOL.... Wrote:
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> Again, with the counting failures.

Hey, it was just the one Indian who wiped out Custer at the Little Big Horn, you know. The rest were just sock-puppet Indians.

LOL.... Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
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> -----
> > LOL! As predicted. Two posts within an hour.
>
> Again, with the counting failures.
>
> > You've got the sock puppets working overtime.
>
> So, here's the deal. FucKING EVERYBODY who passes
> by sees you as a COMPLETE MORON. That's just how
> it's going for you here.

It's just you. You're the only one that can't figure out how to circumnavigate Maple through the town and you've got your shit stained panties in a bunch over it.

> > I've got a hankering for some Anita's today. I
> think I'll
> > cut down Park from Cedar, then onto Locust and
> Branch.
> > Echols then Berry and only have to endure Maple
> for a few
> > dozen feet. Works for me! You'll just have to
> suck it up!
>
> That would make some sense if you lived in the
> Cedar Park apartments.

Those are in Vienna. There's a world outside of Vienna. Go discover it (if mommy will let you).

>If you were coming from
> someplace like Oakton for example, it would be
> just as mind-numbingly stupid as all your other
> traffic ideas have been.

You have no idea where I am coming from. Besides, at this point, I might be willing to sacrifice a minute or two to drive the side streets of Vienna just to piss you off. Your butthurtedness is worth a few seconds here or there. Real with it my little bitch. Sock puppet countdown.....

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> It's just you.

Hardly the case, dumbass. This is just your desperate attempt to salvage some last shred of credibility in your own mind after the lopsided beating you've taken here.

> You're the only one that can't figure out how to circumnavigate
> Maple through the town and you've got your shit stained panties
> in a bunch over it.

The point with town streets is that it is stupid and often (such as in the afternoon -- look it up) quite unnecessary -- to try to use them in order to reach Tysons. If you don't want to do 123 in the morning of course, there are routes to bypass the town that I've previously pointed out. These of course are longer in terms of mileage than 123, but they do provide at least the illusion of making some actual progress.

> Those are in Vienna. There's a world outside of
> Vienna. Go discover it (if mommy will let you).

Cedar Park apartments are at the intersection of Park Street and Cedar Lane -- exactly the point where you decided to start your trip to Anita's. Which unit is yours, muchacho? I'm sure all of them are really nice.

> You have no idea where I am coming from.

Neither do you, apparently.

> Besides,at this point, I might be willing to sacrifice a
> minute or two to drive the side streets of Vienna just to
> piss you off.

What a dumb idea. I don't live in Vienna. It wouldn't bother me at all.

> Your butthurtedness is worth a few seconds here or there.
> Real with it my little bitch. Sock puppet countdown.....

I know, I know...the "R" is tight bext yo ghe "S".

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> You have no idea where I am coming from. Besides,
> at this point, I might be willing to sacrifice a
> minute or two to drive the side streets of Vienna
> just to piss you off. Your butthurtedness is
> worth a few seconds here or there. Real with it my
> little bitch. Sock puppet countdown.....


I like to hit the horn regularly as I cut through.

LOL.... Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
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> -----
> > It's just you.
>
> Hardly the case, dumbass. This is just your
> desperate attempt to salvage some last shred of
> credibility in your own mind after the lopsided
> beating you've taken here.

You think you and your sock puppets have accomplisjphed anything? LOL! Anyone who drives in this area knows that traffic can occur at any time of day in any direction for a myriad of reasons. Every time you a attempt to deny it, you make yourself look like even more of an idiot and I have no problem pointing it out.

> Cedar Park apartments are at the intersection of
> Park Street and Cedar Lane -- exactly the point
> where you decided to start your trip to Anita's.

I see your reading comprehension skills are as piss poor as your navigational skills. I indicated I'd cut down Park from Cedar. My point of origin along Cedar was never indicated, idiot. I could be coming from 29 or Gallows or anywhere in between. Another shit your panties moment for you. Shocking!

> What a dumb idea. I don't live in Vienna. It
> wouldn't bother me at all.

The responses from you and your sock puppets would indicate otherwise. In fact, it bothers you so much, you'll post more responses!

me so horny Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > You have no idea where I am coming from.
> Besides,
> > at this point, I might be willing to sacrifice
> a
> > minute or two to drive the side streets of
> Vienna
> > just to piss you off. Your butthurtedness is
> > worth a few seconds here or there. Real with it
> my
> > little bitch. Sock puppet countdown.....
>
>
> I like to hit the horn regularly as I cut through.


Not a bad idea!

side street driver Wrote:
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>
> The responses from you and your sock puppets would
> indicate otherwise. In fact, it bothers you so
> much, you'll post more responses!


He has to. His egomania forces it. He MUST respond. He can't just let it go. It eats away at him. You can play this idiot for days. lol

Thukn Wrote:
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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > The responses from you and your sock puppets
> would
> > indicate otherwise. In fact, it bothers you so
> > much, you'll post more responses!
>
>
> He has to. His egomania forces it. He MUST
> respond. He can't just let it go. It eats away
> at him. You can play this idiot for days. lol


Good to know. What bothers him more though - when I respond or when I don't respond?

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> In fact, it bothers you so much, you'll post more responses!

Your worst nightmare. More responses from me mean more humiliation for you. You and your google maps have never actually seen the streets of Vienna. Such a stumbling, fumbling, bumbling, worthless ignorant asshole.

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> side street driver Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > In fact, it bothers you so much, you'll post
> more responses!
>
> Your worst nightmare. More responses from me mean
> more humiliation for you. You and your google
> maps have never actually seen the streets of
> Vienna. Such a stumbling, fumbling, bumbling,
> worthless ignorant asshole.


Right on cue. I don't laugh (and I'm laughing at you) at nightmares and I don't need maps to navigate through a small enclave. It's very intuitive to those of us with a modicum of sense. It's easy to see why that excludes you.

Those aren't late Christmas bells ringing, that is Pavlov ringing his bells. Now respond with an ad hominem my well trained pup!

Look at him go! It's like when you blow up an balloon real big and then let it go. P-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-t!!! All because he didn't know the difference between morning and afternoon. What a colossal dumbfuck!

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> Look at him go! It's like when you blow up an
> balloon real big and then let it go.
> P-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-t!!! All
> because he didn't know the difference between
> morning and afternoon. What a colossal dumbfuck!


Oh, the guy above was right. You ARE that obsessed! Anyone who drives in this area knows that traffic can occur at any time of day in any direction for a myriad of reasons. You said there were no options. I gave but one and you've been shitting in your panties ever since. You can't stand being proven wrong. You'll resort to any form of nonsense to deflect from that fact! It's fucking hilarious how pathetic you are!

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> Look at him go! It's like when you blow up an balloon real big
> and then let it go. > P-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-t!!!
> All because he didn't know the difference between morning and
> afternoon. What a colossal dumbfuck!

Really! I think he's going into v-fib. Somebody get a crash-cart in here. Charge to 360 joules...

Here's how I cut through Vienna....

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> LOL.... Wrote:
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> > Look at him go! It's like when you blow up an
> balloon real big
> > and then let it go. >
> P-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-t!!!
> > All because he didn't know the difference
> between morning and
> > afternoon. What a colossal dumbfuck!
>
> Really! I think he's going into v-fib. Somebody
> get a crash-cart in here. Charge to 360 joules...


Right on cue. Another sock puppet! Oh, you're sprawling down the toilet at an epic pace!

Woof woof, Pavlov's puppy!

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> Oh great, just like the plague, the smarmy asshole returns....

And it looks like whoever he is just kicked the living shit out of you once again. Why do you think it's ever going to turn out any differently? The dude simply OWNS your ass! Just agree to buy him a drunken ribeye sometime and be done with it.

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> Fairfax to Tyson's last Friday afternoon/evening:

Hahahahaha!!! That was your FIRST big mistake. The second was in not running away immwediately after it.

Trip Advisor Wrote:
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> Polyglot Wrote:
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> > Oh great, just like the plague, the smarmy
> asshole returns....
>
> And it looks like whoever he is just kicked the
> living shit out of you once again. Why do you
> think it's ever going to turn out any differently?
> The dude simply OWNS your ass! Just agree to buy
> him a drunken ribeye sometime and be done with it.

1. Posting under multiple sock puppet names? Check

2. Feebly attempting some sort of victory after getting thoroughly stomped? Check

3. Compulsive need to respond no matter what? Check

He's achieved the trifecta of butthurtedness!

Congrats!

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> No offense, dude, but traffic issues on northbound
> 123 occur during the MORNING rush hour. On a
> typical afternoon or evening, it would be a simple
> matter to drive from Fairfax to Tysons just by
> sticking to 123.

We all knew that. Well, except for one of us.
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> Headed westbound through Vienna this afternoon,
> and it sure did look like Mattress Discounters or
> whatever it was across the street from Sleepy's
> has plumb cleared out and given up the ghost. All
> I could make out through the front window driving
> by was an expanse of floor tile. Might need to
> do a double-check, but what's the world coming to
> if mattress stores can't stay open in Vienna
> anymore?

Wow! Devastating news for the Vienna-haters if true!

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> We all knew that. Well, except for one of us.

THAT ONE's so dumb, he doesn't count.