Just watching Fox and applying what they say about supporting police to the facts of the Fairfax County Torres murder case.


In a nutshell, Fox is saying that 99.5% of police have good intentions. (I'm willing to believe it is at least 99%.) Therefore we should always support the police.

I argue that ALL police have a long history of looking the other way when "brother policemen" are committing crimes. Case in point is police involved drug dealing in all the major cities. Many police didn't like it, but they failed to "didn't like it" enough to do anything about it.

Setting aside the details of the Torres murder, I observe that Fairfax County Police executives obstructed any investigation into this murder for over a year.

The police are their own worst enemies by CONDONING POLICE CRIME. This is a problem of their own making.

The police must take the lead in policing their own ranks or citizens will never trust them.

Fairfax County's practice of obstruction is not helping people trust police. Police who are convicted of crime should get an extra 20 years for betrayal of public trust.

Get your asshole out of here and take it to Niagara falls and go for a swim. Sometimes humans make mistakes, Somethimes the humans are police. That does not mean they woke up or went to work ever hoping to have to shoot or kill someone. But 1 they want to and should come home every day to their family. Nobody should threaten their saftey. 2) Sometimes they are put in a tough decision and when they take action they go to far. Many times its justified but people are like its 1 guy with a knife or a gun and there are 20 cops. You can only arrest someone if htey are willing to be arrested and obey police commands and cooperate. Otherwise they are putting their lives and the officers lives in jeapordy and police are going to choose their life and the innocent bystanders around them before a suspected criminals.

GOOD FOR THEM

#BACKTHEBLUE

attitudes like these are why fairfax deserves what it gets

You are the ass here. The Po Po are like the good ole boyz. Whoever tries to hide and obstruct justice should get 20yrs you mfer

Right on!

Too much SWAT-team training. Non-lethal weapons -- look it up. While you're at it, check out entrapment, planting evidence, and withholding evidence. Just because people still call the police doesn't mean the police are doing a good job. Police today just want to arrest you. They don't care if you did anything at all. "Serve and Protect" has become "Harass and Detain". You should never talk to a police officer about anything. If you get pulled over on the road, open the window only enough to pass papers back and forth. Anything more is an open invitation for the cop to claim that he smelled drugs or alcohol in the car.

Police today just want to arrest you.



Unless you're a brother cop. Then you get a free pass to do anything in Fairfax County. Otherwise Torres wouldn't have been protected by other fairfax county police executives for more than a year.

Police aren't smart enough to see that by not stopping the crimes of other police officers, they become participants. I think they call it being an accessory after the fact. And certainly obstruction of justice is a separate offense.

i get it but you don't Wrote:
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> Just watching Fox and applying what they say about
> supporting police to the facts of the Fairfax
> County Torres murder case.
>
>
> In a nutshell, Fox is saying that 99.5% of police
> have good intentions. (I'm willing to believe it
> is at least 99%.) Therefore we should always
> support the police.
>
> I argue that ALL police have a long history of
> looking the other way when "brother policemen" are
> committing crimes. Case in point is police
> involved drug dealing in all the major cities.
> Many police didn't like it, but they failed to
> "didn't like it" enough to do anything about it.
>
> Setting aside the details of the Torres murder, I
> observe that Fairfax County Police executives
> obstructed any investigation into this murder for
> over a year.
>
> The police are their own worst enemies by
> CONDONING POLICE CRIME. This is a problem of their
> own making.
>
> The police must take the lead in policing their
> own ranks or citizens will never trust them.
>
> Fairfax County's practice of obstruction is not
> helping people trust police. Police who are
> convicted of crime should get an extra 20 years
> for betrayal of public trust.

Fox News Wrote:
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Cops are basically pricks. All of 'em. But I view them as a necessary evil.

Fortunately they are easy to avoid. All you have to do is not drive or act like an asshole. I've been living in Fairfax County for 65 years and I have never talked to a cop, local or state. Never, not once.

Officials of Fairfax County Police should be indicted for obstruction of justice. They'd do the same to you.

I heard it was Halloween in the FCPD today. Command Staff dressed up in their white shirts pretending to be "competent and knowledgeable". Happy early Halloween.

ryan lee looney Wrote:
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> I heard it was Halloween in the FCPD today.
> Command Staff dressed up in their white shirts
> pretending to be "competent and knowledgeable".
> Happy early Halloween.

How cute! Did they parade around, smiling their fake smiles, and pat the minions on they head head while saying, "You are doing a great job!"?

Heck the cops are human too...so what if they bagged some chump and tried to cover it up...you would too if you smoked some crazy loser on accident....it happens when you fuck with people caring guns.

As long as they keep the niggers, spicks and white trash in check, I'm good with that.

Jonh boi The Tax Payer Wrote:
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> Heck the cops are human too...so what if they
> bagged some chump and tried to cover it up...you
> would too if you smoked some crazy loser on
> accident....it happens when you fuck with people
> caring guns.
>
> As long as they keep the niggers, spicks and white
> trash in check, I'm good with that.


Duh. It was a Hispanic cop who wasted a stand up white dude.

The blue line of silence rules

Ever see the movie Serpico? True story of a cop who gets set up and shot because he can't be trusted ( won't take bribes, might snitch). And before he got shot, he tried to inform his superiors of the problems and got the run around

Nonetheless, they clearly obstructed justice for more than a year and should be held accountable, just they insist on for everyone else.

No one (except maybe Torres) will be held accountable.
The FCPD gave the middle finger to the Federal attorney, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the family of a man they helped murder for 18 months.
They stonewalled, lied, covered up evidence, all with arrogance and not much has changed honestly.
Trust them at your own risk.

They won't be Wrote:
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> No one (except maybe Torres) will be held
> accountable.
> The FCPD gave the middle finger to the Federal
> attorney, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary
> Committee, and the family of a man they helped
> murder for 18 months.
> They stonewalled, lied, covered up evidence, all
> with arrogance and not much has changed honestly.
>
> Trust them at your own risk.


And then the po-lice turned their back on Torres. They left him out to dry when he went to his preliminary hearing and got no bond. This is after over year from the shooting. The judge said he was a flight risk and held him.

I'm not justifying what Torres did, but its fucked he got held when he had still been working for the po-lice since the shooting.

Tried covering shit up, hoped it would go away and threw him to the wolves. All while the white shirts skip up and down the halls cashing their $125K checks.

Greatful Citizen Wrote:
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> Get your asshole out of here and take it to
> Niagara falls and go for a swim. Sometimes humans
> make mistakes, Somethimes the humans are police.
> That does not mean they woke up or went to work
> ever hoping to have to shoot or kill someone. But
> 1 they want to and should come home every day to
> their family. Nobody should threaten their saftey.
> 2) Sometimes they are put in a tough decision and
> when they take action they go to far. Many times
> its justified but people are like its 1 guy with a
> knife or a gun and there are 20 cops. You can only
> arrest someone if htey are willing to be arrested
> and obey police commands and cooperate. Otherwise
> they are putting their lives and the officers
> lives in jeapordy and police are going to choose
> their life and the innocent bystanders around them
> before a suspected criminals.
>
> GOOD FOR THEM
>
> #BACKTHEBLUE


Your mentality is how corrupt mexico city police became what they are. All american citizens should be held to the same set of laws. It doesn't matter if you have a badge, if you commit a crime or are suspected, the same jury of fellow citizens should decide whether you are guilty or not.

You do no service to all the great cops out there who where the shield honorably by defending those who are corrupt or inept. We shouldn't look the other way, we should protect other police by prosecuting the bad eggs.

This is how mexico city happens Wrote:
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> Greatful Citizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Get your asshole out of here and take it to
> > Niagara falls and go for a swim. Sometimes
> humans
> > make mistakes, Somethimes the humans are
> police.
> > That does not mean they woke up or went to work
> > ever hoping to have to shoot or kill someone.
> But
> > 1 they want to and should come home every day
> to
> > their family. Nobody should threaten their
> saftey.
> > 2) Sometimes they are put in a tough decision
> and
> > when they take action they go to far. Many
> times
> > its justified but people are like its 1 guy with
> a
> > knife or a gun and there are 20 cops. You can
> only
> > arrest someone if htey are willing to be
> arrested
> > and obey police commands and cooperate.
> Otherwise
> > they are putting their lives and the officers
> > lives in jeapordy and police are going to
> choose
> > their life and the innocent bystanders around
> them
> > before a suspected criminals.
> >
> > GOOD FOR THEM
> >
> > #BACKTHEBLUE
>
>
> Your mentality is how corrupt mexico city police
> became what they are. All american citizens should
> be held to the same set of laws. It doesn't matter
> if you have a badge, if you commit a crime or are
> suspected, the same jury of fellow citizens should
> decide whether you are guilty or not.
>
Which is exactly the point what have been mentioned in many forums on this website. The jury of fellow citizens should decide whether an officer is guilty or not. But that is not what happens within the FCPD. IA does what Command Staff tells them to do. Many of unfortunate good cops have been railroaded out of the FCPD because of the hidden agendas, cover ups, and corruption of the Command Staff. IA attacks the reputations of the officers and the officers can not protect themselves from the slander. It is a broken system. Never believe that an officer did anything wrong if they get terminated or run out by IA. But you can believe it if the officer was convicted in a court of law because the courts have a fair process. It is called due process and rules of evidence. FCPD does not follow the rules of evidence and they actually make up shit, cover it up, or not even address it. 2 of the current Deputy Chiefs and one major are the most incompetent, corrupt, backstabbing, and don't-do-as-I-do examples of the failure within FCPD. FCPD needs an outside Chief to clean house.

ghia must live in a van down by the river if he has never spoken to a police in 65 years. Amazing that he has never spoken to an officer but claims to know that all of em are pricks. Too much time on the library computer.