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you don't build somethign that and "hope someone likes it"
something that size you have an architect design what the buyers ask for and they put money down before building
the idea of paying upkeep on large grounds built by unskilled workers until "it suits someone's fancy" is total bullshit
i smell bullshit from foundation to weather cock
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Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Hummm???
()
Date: November 16, 2015 10:19AM
A 10,000-square-foot house was destroyed by fire early Monday morning in Great Falls, Fairfax County Fire and Rescue investigators said.
Units responded to the fire 151 River Park Lane about 1 a.m.
When they arrived, firefighters encountered a large one-story home fully involved with fire. The home is located in a non-hydrant area of Great Falls, and fireighters called for additional tankers and resources. It took units several hours to bring the fire under control, fire officials said.
The home was for sale and not occupied. One firefighter was transported for a non-life threatening injury.
The home is a complete loss and the fire is under investigation.
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Units responded to the fire 151 River Park Lane about 1 a.m.
When they arrived, firefighters encountered a large one-story home fully involved with fire. The home is located in a non-hydrant area of Great Falls, and fireighters called for additional tankers and resources. It took units several hours to bring the fire under control, fire officials said.
The home was for sale and not occupied. One firefighter was transported for a non-life threatening injury.
The home is a complete loss and the fire is under investigation.
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Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Jewish Lightning
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Date: November 16, 2015 10:26AM
Jewish Lightning.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Gift?
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Date: November 16, 2015 10:29AM
Property tax info on it- Looks like it was given to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/datalet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent=138
http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/datalet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent=138
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Inside Pics
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Date: November 16, 2015 10:40AM
The Wall Street Journal did an article on the place complete with pictures of the rooms.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324549004579069130473473784
The pool and tennis court are pictured. Now that her children are grown, Ms. Rattner says she is selling because she'd like to spend more time in New York's Long Island, where she grew up. 'It's a big house and I'm a city girl at heart,' she says about her decision.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324549004579069130473473784
The pool and tennis court are pictured. Now that her children are grown, Ms. Rattner says she is selling because she'd like to spend more time in New York's Long Island, where she grew up. 'It's a big house and I'm a city girl at heart,' she says about her decision.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Garth
()
Date: November 16, 2015 10:50AM
And she's buying the stairway to heaven.. Da da da ... da da da da.....
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
ZIllow Pics
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Date: November 16, 2015 11:00AM
More pics from Zillow - Asking Price was $3,250,000
It was just renovated in 2011 for $3,000,000 with $500,000 going into HVAC and tech systems.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Great-Falls-VA/pmf,pf_pt/51698352_zpid/18373_rid/39.034969,-77.275086,39.0195,-77.303367_rect/14_zm/
It was just renovated in 2011 for $3,000,000 with $500,000 going into HVAC and tech systems.
http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Great-Falls-VA/pmf,pf_pt/51698352_zpid/18373_rid/39.034969,-77.275086,39.0195,-77.303367_rect/14_zm/
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Simple Crime To Solve
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Date: November 16, 2015 11:48AM
Another case of arson for the insurance -
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
yepperss
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Date: November 16, 2015 12:04PM
She's been trying to sell the place since 2011 and has never dropped the price. Get real.
It was a nice house though, I would take it over many of those other brick colonial style mansions out there.
It was a nice house though, I would take it over many of those other brick colonial style mansions out there.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Almost a Bargain
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Date: November 16, 2015 12:26PM
Damn... Keller Williams site says that place was ready to be auctions off next weekend.
I was hoping to pick it up cheap.
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I was hoping to pick it up cheap.
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Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
yepperss
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Date: November 16, 2015 12:28PM
Civil court records are showing she did not pay one of the contractors either.
Probably got a huge line of credit on the place and started spending like a nigga. In addition with the property taxes it was too much.
Just a guess..
Probably got a huge line of credit on the place and started spending like a nigga. In addition with the property taxes it was too much.
Just a guess..
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Ugh!!!
()
Date: November 16, 2015 12:40PM
Ugh the http://decaroauctions.com/portfolio-view/absolute-auction-great-falls-virginia-estate-saturday-november-21-2015/
Paints a different picture of the $3,250,000 house. I see why it wasn't selling in Great Falls.
Maybe one of the neighbors burned it down to get rid of it.
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Paints a different picture of the $3,250,000 house. I see why it wasn't selling in Great Falls.
Maybe one of the neighbors burned it down to get rid of it.
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Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
mjs
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Date: November 16, 2015 12:45PM
Contractor was too lazy to bury the mexican labor used to built it. and since it wasn't selling he's killing two birds withone stone. hide the bodies and get insurance money...
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Way long
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Date: November 16, 2015 02:38PM
The house is to individual taste for a $3,250,000 sale. I would rather have a stone house with a modern feel than a mock Frank Lloyd Wright house.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
xFXW9
()
Date: November 16, 2015 03:57PM
lender to contractor could not afford upkeep before sale and found out mexicans took a bunch of shortcuts that caused expensive problems to fix
or contractor knew the build was bogus and wouldn't last worth shit and planned to burn it anyway
lender / contractor goes to jail for insurance fraud
if not: government workers go to jail for aiding and abedding insurance fraud
or contractor knew the build was bogus and wouldn't last worth shit and planned to burn it anyway
lender / contractor goes to jail for insurance fraud
if not: government workers go to jail for aiding and abedding insurance fraud
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
LcVYW
()
Date: November 16, 2015 03:58PM
realator was drunk had frends over making porn films in unfurnished home
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
dW4Ht
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Date: November 16, 2015 04:00PM
Gift? Wrote:
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> Property tax info on it- Looks like it was given
> to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
>
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
> =138
That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance -- that's all.
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> Property tax info on it- Looks like it was given
> to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
>
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
> =138
That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance -- that's all.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Mn6Tu
()
Date: November 16, 2015 04:00PM
absolute bullshit and fraud
you don't build somethign that and "hope someone likes it"
something that size you have an architect design what the buyers ask for and they put money down before building
the idea of paying upkeep on large grounds built by unskilled workers until "it suits someone's fancy" is total bullshit
i smell bullshit from foundation to weather cock
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
$0 Sale
()
Date: November 16, 2015 04:47PM
dW4Ht Wrote:
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> Gift? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> given
> > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> > =138
>
>
> That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance --
> that's all.
There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the husband name to the wife.
Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
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> Gift? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> given
> > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> > =138
>
>
> That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance --
> that's all.
There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the husband name to the wife.
Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
G. Virginia
()
Date: November 16, 2015 04:56PM
These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not only are some of you out and out bigots but also plane stupid...but then is there anything but a stupid bigot. Your information is completely inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you are going to search, on the internet, someone's real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The owner of this property is independently wealthy, could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple houses in this price range and not put a dent into her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better to do but make hateful comments regarding something you know nothing about. Get a life... and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and filled with anger.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
TitlesAndOwnership
()
Date: November 16, 2015 05:02PM
$0 Sale Wrote:
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> dW4Ht Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gift? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > given
> > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > > =138
> >
> >
> > That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance
> --
> > that's all.
>
> There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area
> of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the
> husband name to the wife.
>
> Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
Maybe they didn't have the title under "Tenants by the entirety" which means the husband and wife both own 100% of the property -- with survival rights.
If they didn't file their deed like this, then there is a whole probate issue in the courts for the surviving spouse to have free and clear title (or a title in which they can actually sell the home) ... Perhaps, the husband was terminally ill and they wanted to make things easy for the wife, once he was gone.
theory only -- not judgemental or angry.
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> dW4Ht Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gift? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > given
> > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > > =138
> >
> >
> > That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance
> --
> > that's all.
>
> There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area
> of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the
> husband name to the wife.
>
> Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
Maybe they didn't have the title under "Tenants by the entirety" which means the husband and wife both own 100% of the property -- with survival rights.
If they didn't file their deed like this, then there is a whole probate issue in the courts for the surviving spouse to have free and clear title (or a title in which they can actually sell the home) ... Perhaps, the husband was terminally ill and they wanted to make things easy for the wife, once he was gone.
theory only -- not judgemental or angry.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
L. Young
()
Date: November 16, 2015 05:33PM
A house burned down! Why do you care if it was a divorce settlement, ownership,refinancing, property tax, title, etc.?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
d4LGP
()
Date: November 16, 2015 05:42PM
Gift? Wrote:
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> Property tax info on it- Looks like it was given
> to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
>
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
> =138
Inherited.
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> Property tax info on it- Looks like it was given
> to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
>
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
> =138
Inherited.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
house rich cash poor
()
Date: November 16, 2015 06:03PM
G. Virginia Wrote:
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> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
Case Number : GV07004369-00
Case Type : Warrant In Debt
Defendant Information
Name DBA/TA Address Judgment Attorney
RATTNER, SUSAN L GREAT FALLS VA 22066 Plaintiff
Judgment : Plaintiff Costs : $48.00 Attorney Fees : NONE
Principal Amount : $1,404.25 Other Amount : Interest Award : 6%
Doesn't sound that rich to me. A rich person would have,
- Paid their dues
- If they feel they did not owe the fees, they would hire a lawyer
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> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
Case Number : GV07004369-00
Case Type : Warrant In Debt
Defendant Information
Name DBA/TA Address Judgment Attorney
RATTNER, SUSAN L GREAT FALLS VA 22066 Plaintiff
Judgment : Plaintiff Costs : $48.00 Attorney Fees : NONE
Principal Amount : $1,404.25 Other Amount : Interest Award : 6%
Doesn't sound that rich to me. A rich person would have,
- Paid their dues
- If they feel they did not owe the fees, they would hire a lawyer
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Nbn64
()
Date: November 16, 2015 08:22PM
One story with a spiral staircase?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
I think you're wrong
()
Date: November 16, 2015 09:23PM
I think you're all wrong about her finances. She owns another house on the same street. 147 River Lane
I don't think she's living above her means
I don't think she's living above her means
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Columbo
()
Date: November 16, 2015 09:31PM
Definition of Arson- A fire caused by the friction between a mortgage and an insurance policy.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Admiral Obvious
()
Date: November 16, 2015 11:06PM
Insurance fraud.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Same Property
()
Date: November 16, 2015 11:47PM
I think you're wrong Wrote:
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> I think you're all wrong about her finances. She
> owns another house on the same street. 147 River
> Lane
>
> I don't think she's living above her means
That's the same property. 151 and 147 lots are side by side. They are just defined as separate lots on the county map. 147 is also the land behind the house.
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> I think you're all wrong about her finances. She
> owns another house on the same street. 147 River
> Lane
>
> I don't think she's living above her means
That's the same property. 151 and 147 lots are side by side. They are just defined as separate lots on the county map. 147 is also the land behind the house.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Hhhy
()
Date: November 17, 2015 06:48AM
That is one ugly house. The Decour is tacky .
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Gr00vy.Ghoul
()
Date: November 17, 2015 07:44AM
L. Young Wrote:
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> A house burned down! Why do you care if it was a
> divorce settlement, ownership,refinancing,
> property tax, title, etc.?
Welcome to Fairfax Underground. We love nothing. We respect nothing.
"Their job is to die and our job is to flame them for it."
(Although in this case it seems it was their job to flame their own home and our job to flame THEM for it...)
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> A house burned down! Why do you care if it was a
> divorce settlement, ownership,refinancing,
> property tax, title, etc.?
Welcome to Fairfax Underground. We love nothing. We respect nothing.
"Their job is to die and our job is to flame them for it."
(Although in this case it seems it was their job to flame their own home and our job to flame THEM for it...)
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Large Fire Hose
()
Date: November 17, 2015 12:33PM
Reminds me of the WACO compound.
(The ladies call me large fire hose)
(The ladies call me large fire hose)
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
sdfsdfsdf
()
Date: November 17, 2015 01:23PM
G. Virginia Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
I love these out of touch posts from rich assholes like this poster. "she could buy me out". Fuck off faggot.
And this person says "anything but a stupid bigot". This sounds like Hillary and Bernie, who claim we can't succumb to Islamophobia and we must let in 10's of 1000's, millions perhaps of Syrian refugees. Of course when you get down to the details, how many of these migrants are you going to let live next door to you or in your guest house? Poster above? Hillary? Bernie? Oh that's right, the migrants can live in the ghetto or section 8 houses far away removed from your gated estates.
Diversity is for you the little people.
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> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
I love these out of touch posts from rich assholes like this poster. "she could buy me out". Fuck off faggot.
And this person says "anything but a stupid bigot". This sounds like Hillary and Bernie, who claim we can't succumb to Islamophobia and we must let in 10's of 1000's, millions perhaps of Syrian refugees. Of course when you get down to the details, how many of these migrants are you going to let live next door to you or in your guest house? Poster above? Hillary? Bernie? Oh that's right, the migrants can live in the ghetto or section 8 houses far away removed from your gated estates.
Diversity is for you the little people.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
U-Haul Trailers For Hearses
()
Date: November 17, 2015 01:36PM
Yes, their identity is completely wrapped up in their Wealth and their deifinition of a "successful life" is how much "net worth" they can add to their porfolio ..
when they die, they will be known as a greedy bitch or bastard who only cared about themselves ...
At least the poster above seems like this ... I know there are some wealthy people who actually help others and are God- Fearing folks ... but the poster above stinks to high heaven ...
We all meet the same fate -- death -- and i have never seen a hearse pulling U-Haul Truck --
You can't take it with you!
when they die, they will be known as a greedy bitch or bastard who only cared about themselves ...
At least the poster above seems like this ... I know there are some wealthy people who actually help others and are God- Fearing folks ... but the poster above stinks to high heaven ...
We all meet the same fate -- death -- and i have never seen a hearse pulling U-Haul Truck --
You can't take it with you!
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
U-Haul Trailers For Hearses
()
Date: November 17, 2015 01:38PM
"G. Virginia" -- poster is who I am referring to
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Poor House
()
Date: November 17, 2015 02:47PM
If you look at the zillow map of Great Falls you'll see a ton of those mansion for sale. People buy them to impress others and go bankrupt in two or three years paying the bills on the places.
In many case living in those McMansions is a step towards the poor house.
In many case living in those McMansions is a step towards the poor house.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
HmYN7
()
Date: November 17, 2015 03:55PM
Often the guy on the corner with the biggest house and the most toys in the neighborhood ends up being foreclosed on ... because of the enormous debt he incurred while trying to live the American Dream solely on credit.
True,
Meanwhile, if you penny pinch enough you can attain wealth little by little and have a rather comfortable retirement ..
In this area however, the cost of living is enormous compared to most of the rest of the country.
Those on the Section and simliar programs, wick, ETB, etc. live better day to day than some who work their tails off trying to provide for their families.
What a damn shame.
True,
Meanwhile, if you penny pinch enough you can attain wealth little by little and have a rather comfortable retirement ..
In this area however, the cost of living is enormous compared to most of the rest of the country.
Those on the Section and simliar programs, wick, ETB, etc. live better day to day than some who work their tails off trying to provide for their families.
What a damn shame.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Off Subject but..
()
Date: November 17, 2015 04:07PM
HmYN7 Wrote:
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> Those on the Section and simliar programs, wick,
> ETB, etc. live better day to day than some who
> work their tails off trying to provide for their
> families.
>
> What a damn shame.
$3.67 a day to eat is "living better off." These the are people that you see at McDonald's once month ordering like they are in a fine restaurant because it's the "big night out on the town."
In contrast I am jetting to Bahamas and Cancun on the weekends with different dates and enjoy lobsters and crab cattered to me on the beach at sunset. Hell I may go have lobster and a fine wine tonight.
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> Those on the Section and simliar programs, wick,
> ETB, etc. live better day to day than some who
> work their tails off trying to provide for their
> families.
>
> What a damn shame.
$3.67 a day to eat is "living better off." These the are people that you see at McDonald's once month ordering like they are in a fine restaurant because it's the "big night out on the town."
In contrast I am jetting to Bahamas and Cancun on the weekends with different dates and enjoy lobsters and crab cattered to me on the beach at sunset. Hell I may go have lobster and a fine wine tonight.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Off Subjects Father...
()
Date: November 17, 2015 04:10PM
Timmy, it's time to get out of the basement and off Fairfaxunderground and rake some leaves! Your internet privileges will be suspended for 30 days if those leaves aren't bagged up by sun down.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Been There deja vu
()
Date: November 17, 2015 05:50PM
$0 Sale Wrote:
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> dW4Ht Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gift? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > given
> > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > > =138
> >
> >
> > That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance
> --
> > that's all.
>
> There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area
> of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the
> husband name to the wife.
>
> Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
When you refinance and get the divorced spouse off the deed then it is recorded as 0. That's what happened with me. The difference is I kept the house and the ex-wife got bought out.
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> dW4Ht Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Gift? Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > given
> > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > > =138
> >
> >
> > That 0 dollar figure usually means a refinance
> --
> > that's all.
>
> There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls area
> of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from the
> husband name to the wife.
>
> Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
When you refinance and get the divorced spouse off the deed then it is recorded as 0. That's what happened with me. The difference is I kept the house and the ex-wife got bought out.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Thanks
()
Date: November 18, 2015 10:07PM
Been There deja vu Wrote:
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> $0 Sale Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dW4Ht Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gift? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > > given
> > > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > >
> > > > =138
> > >
> > >
> > > That 0 dollar figure usually means a
> refinance
> > --
> > > that's all.
> >
> > There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls
> area
> > of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from
> the
> > husband name to the wife.
> >
> > Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
>
> When you refinance and get the divorced spouse off
> the deed then it is recorded as 0. That's what
> happened with me. The difference is I kept the
> house and the ex-wife got bought out.
That's what I thought. Thanks
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> $0 Sale Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dW4Ht Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Gift? Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Property tax info on it- Looks like it was
> > > given
> > > > to some lady in 2002 for the price of $0.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://icare.fairfaxcounty.gov/ffxcare/datalets/da
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> talet.aspx?mode=profileall&sIndex=1&idx=1&LMparent
>
> >
> > >
> > > > =138
> > >
> > >
> > > That 0 dollar figure usually means a
> refinance
> > --
> > > that's all.
> >
> > There seems to be a trend in the Great Falls
> area
> > of the house "sold" for $0 and then goes from
> the
> > husband name to the wife.
> >
> > Does this mean it was a divorce settlement?
>
> When you refinance and get the divorced spouse off
> the deed then it is recorded as 0. That's what
> happened with me. The difference is I kept the
> house and the ex-wife got bought out.
That's what I thought. Thanks
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Video of Fire
()
Date: November 24, 2015 03:22PM
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
N6n77
()
Date: November 24, 2015 03:56PM
G. Virginia Wrote:
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> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
I'll try not to be so "plane stupid" and "judge mental" - can you work on your spelling and usage?
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> These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> only are some of you out and out bigots but also
> plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If you
> are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
> owner of this property is independently wealthy,
> could not only buy you out, but purchase multiple
> houses in this price range and not put a dent into
> her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing better
> to do but make hateful comments regarding
> something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental and
> filled with anger.
I'll try not to be so "plane stupid" and "judge mental" - can you work on your spelling and usage?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
LuEpd
()
Date: November 27, 2015 07:05PM
Not all of the mansion has burned to the ground. The main house is gone but the garage and side bedroom part is still standing.
It looks like the fire was started in the exact center of the main house. I would call that suspicious along with the estimated 1:30am Sunday night start time. A 1am fire would the perfect time for an arsonist. Smoke would be hard to see and hardly anybody awake at that time.
Sign out front says "Deliver all packages to 209 River Park Rd." Humm?
It looks like the fire was started in the exact center of the main house. I would call that suspicious along with the estimated 1:30am Sunday night start time. A 1am fire would the perfect time for an arsonist. Smoke would be hard to see and hardly anybody awake at that time.
Sign out front says "Deliver all packages to 209 River Park Rd." Humm?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Arson?
()
Date: January 04, 2016 02:24PM
Any news on the investigation? How can I find out if this was ruled an arson?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Any News?
()
Date: February 14, 2016 05:35PM
Arson? Wrote:
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> Any news on the investigation? How can I find out
> if this was ruled an arson?
?? Did they finish the investigation?
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> Any news on the investigation? How can I find out
> if this was ruled an arson?
?? Did they finish the investigation?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
who knew the Jew
()
Date: October 27, 2017 04:54PM
Looks like a jury finally got the Rat! No insurance money for The Rat. So sad - the jury saw right through the arson and ruled for the insurance company (Chubb). Chubb had counter-sued Rattner and they won. Even made the Washington Post!
Finally, someone has put this bitch in her place. She has sued all sorts of people around Fairfax and Loudoun Counties - now she gets a piece of what she has long deserved.
Finally, someone has put this bitch in her place. She has sued all sorts of people around Fairfax and Loudoun Counties - now she gets a piece of what she has long deserved.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Shakes
()
Date: October 27, 2017 05:51PM
N6n77 Wrote:
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> G. Virginia Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> > only are some of you out and out bigots but
> also
> > plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> > stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> > inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> > blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If
> you
> > are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> > real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
>
> > owner of this property is independently
> wealthy,
> > could not only buy you out, but purchase
> multiple
> > houses in this price range and not put a dent
> into
> > her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing
> better
> > to do but make hateful comments regarding
> > something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> > and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental
> and
> > filled with anger.
>
> I'll try not to be so "plane stupid" and "judge
> mental" - can you work on your spelling and usage?
Can I add "blatently?
-------------------------------------------------------
> G. Virginia Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > These comments are absolutely outrageous! Not
> > only are some of you out and out bigots but
> also
> > plane stupid...but then is there anything but a
> > stupid bigot. Your information is completely
> > inaccurate, based on pure speculation, which
> > blatently shows your lack of intelligence. If
> you
> > are going to search, on the internet, someone's
> > real estate history, etc. get all the facts. The
>
> > owner of this property is independently
> wealthy,
> > could not only buy you out, but purchase
> multiple
> > houses in this price range and not put a dent
> into
> > her wealth. Apparently, you have nothing
> better
> > to do but make hateful comments regarding
> > something you know nothing about. Get a life...
> > and hopefully one that isn't so judge mental
> and
> > filled with anger.
>
> I'll try not to be so "plane stupid" and "judge
> mental" - can you work on your spelling and usage?
Can I add "blatently?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
()
Date: October 27, 2017 11:24PM
Here's an article about the case:
Did a Terrific Falls doctor established her mansion on fireplace?
By Good Assurance
October 19, 2017
https://good-assurance.com/did-a-terrific-falls-doctor-established-her-mansion-on-fireplace/
Two yrs back, Susan Rattner’s 11,000-sq.-foot multimillion-greenback mansion in Terrific Falls, Va. burned down in the center of the night time.
Rattner’s insurance policies enterprise accused her of both starting the fireplace or figuring out who did. On Wednesday, a jury sided with Chubb Countrywide Insurance plan Co., issuing a ruling that will expense Rattner hundreds of 1000’s of pounds.
“She advised people today she loved her home,” Jeffrey O’Hara, an lawyer for Chubb, advised jurors. “She couldn’t stand this home.”
It was Rattner who in the beginning sued Chubb Insurance plan for far more than $10 million, the full protection obtainable underneath her plan. Chubb countersued for $945,000, a determine that involved the insurance policies payment to Rattner as properly as the expense of the company’s investigation. The jury this 7 days awarded the enterprise that total volume.
The fireplace started just following midnight on Nov. 15, 2015. It took a number of several hours to get it underneath regulate, officers from the Fairfax County Fire Department said at the time, and one firefighter was briefly hospitalized with injuries.
Investigators dominated the blaze intentional, whilst it was unclear how it was started out.
Rattner had tried out to promote the home for a number of yrs just before it burned down, frequently decreasing the price but preserving it over $3 million. Days following the fireplace, she was scheduled to promote the residence at an “unreserved” auction, where there is no bare minimum price and a residence goes to the greatest bidder.
Patricia Murphy, a serious estate agent who worked with Rattner, testified that the house owner said she would rather burn off the home down than promote it for only $1 million.
After the fireplace, Rattner questioned Murphy to delete an e-mail in which she wrote that the home would promote for $1 million “over my lifeless human body,” contacting it “pretty damaging,” in accordance to courtroom filings.
Rattner moved a lot of of her possessions into storage just before the fireplace. She testified that she was basically decluttering her property for the sale and her prepared transfer to a rental the insurance policies enterprise argued that she was preserving her valuables from likely up in flames.
Though Chubb pointed to cellphone documents suggesting that Rattner had traveled from her Delaware seashore property back to Terrific Falls the night time of the fireplace, an professional for her legal crew testified that these facts is unreliable.
A refined property safety system had a wire removed, in accordance to testimony, that prevented it from working.
After the fireplace, Rattner questioned her workers not to explain to insurance policies brokers about the storage units stuffed with merchandise she had removed from the home, in accordance to testimony.
Rattner was not in dire economic straits, her attorneys said. A retired obstetrician and gynecologist, she had a internet worth of about $4.6 million at the time of the fireplace and was receiving $468,000 a calendar year in disability payments. Her brother also provided her with cash to deal with her a number of sclerosis.
She had been in Terrific Falls for a quarter century, she advised fireplace investigators. Now that her two young children have been developed, she wanted to transfer to a more compact spot in a far more walkable region, but she said she had no will need to promote a home she had spent significantly of her daily life customizing.
Rattner’s lawyer, Mark Wasserman, recommended that Chubb was relying significantly too significantly on facts, which he said may well not have been correct, from Rattner’s property safety and fireplace units.
“Chubb is just browsing for some justification to stay away from paying out,” he advised the jury in closing arguments.
There had been recurring gasoline leaks at the home in the times top up to the fireplace.
Rattner walked in courtroom shakily, leaning on a cane. Attorneys for Chubb accused of her of grossly exaggerating her physical complications, noting that she went on a 7-hour bicycle ride 4 times just before the trial and traveled to a number of nations around the world past calendar year.
“There’s no issue she had the physical capacity to transfer through that home,” O’Hara said in his closing argument. He pointed out that at one place in the course of the trial, she dropped her cane and “lurched forward” to decide on it up, implying that she did not certainly will need it.
Rattner shook her head vigorously as O’Hara spoke and remaining the courtroom in tears.
The vacant land where her home at the time stood bought for $700,000 in March, in accordance to serious estate documents.
Justin Jouvenal contributed to this report.
"Only good things can come of more communication." - Cary Wiedemann, March 3, 2005
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Translation
()
Date: October 28, 2017 07:25AM
Translation:
Two years ago, Susan Rattner's 11,000 sq. foot, multi-million dollar mansion in Great Falls, VA burned down in the middle of the night.
Rattner's insurance company accused her of either starting the fire, or knowing who did. On Wednesday, a jury sided with Chubb Countrywide Insurance Co., issuing a ruling that will cost Rattner hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Jeff O'Hara, an attorney for Chubb told jurors that while Ms. Rattner claim to love the house, the truth is that she disliked the house.
Following the fire, Rattner sued Chubb for $10,000,000, the maximum allowed under her policy. Chubb countersued for $945,000, the cost the company spent on investigating the suspicious fire. After deliberating for seven days, the jury awarded Chubb the total amount of their claim.
The fire started just after midnight on Nov. 15, 2015. It took several hours to contain, according to officials of the Fairfax County Fire Department. One firefighter was briefly hospitalized with minor injuries.
While it was never determined how the fire started, investigators declared the fire to have been intentionally set.
Rattner had been trying to sell the house for years before it burned down, frequently reducing the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be sold at an unreserved auction, with the house being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum price.
Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner said that she would sooner burn the house down than sell it for only $1,000,000.
After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging', according to court filings.
Rattner moved many possessions into storage right before the fire. She claimed that she was 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its sale and preparing to move into a rental. The insurance company argued that she was protecting her valuables from the fire.
Chubb produced cell phone records that suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her defense countered that this remained unproven.
According to testimony, a sophisticated home-security system had a wire removed that rendered it inoperable.
Workers at the home testified that Rattner instructed them not to tell insurance investigators about items removed from the home and taken to storage.
Rattner was not in dire economic straights, her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6 million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
Rattner told fire investigators that she had lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but stated that with her children raised, she wanted to downsize and move to an area where she would be less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having spent a significant part of her life customizing.
(confusing paragraph!) Rattner's attorney said that Chubb was building a significant part of their case on evidence that might be inaccurate.
In closing arguments, he said that Chubb is fishing for any excuse to justify denying Ms. Rattner's claim.
There had been recurring (natural gas?) leaks at the time leading up to the fire.
Rattner walked shakily and used a cane during her appearances in court. The Chubb legal team accused her of grossly exaggerating her physical condition in an attempt to garner juror sympathy, stating that she had ridden a bicycle for seven hours on four different occasions in the weeks before the trial, and that she had traveled extensively in the preceding year.
The Chubb attorney stated that there was no doubt that she was physically capable of moving about the Great Falls property. He pointed out that at one point during the trial, she dropped her cane and had no problem leaning forward to retrieve it, seeming to imply that she did not require its use.
Rattner shook her head vigorously as O'Hara spoke and broke into tears in the courtroom.
The now-vacant land where the home once stood was sold for $700,000 in March, according to Real Estate documents.
Two years ago, Susan Rattner's 11,000 sq. foot, multi-million dollar mansion in Great Falls, VA burned down in the middle of the night.
Rattner's insurance company accused her of either starting the fire, or knowing who did. On Wednesday, a jury sided with Chubb Countrywide Insurance Co., issuing a ruling that will cost Rattner hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Jeff O'Hara, an attorney for Chubb told jurors that while Ms. Rattner claim to love the house, the truth is that she disliked the house.
Following the fire, Rattner sued Chubb for $10,000,000, the maximum allowed under her policy. Chubb countersued for $945,000, the cost the company spent on investigating the suspicious fire. After deliberating for seven days, the jury awarded Chubb the total amount of their claim.
The fire started just after midnight on Nov. 15, 2015. It took several hours to contain, according to officials of the Fairfax County Fire Department. One firefighter was briefly hospitalized with minor injuries.
While it was never determined how the fire started, investigators declared the fire to have been intentionally set.
Rattner had been trying to sell the house for years before it burned down, frequently reducing the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be sold at an unreserved auction, with the house being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum price.
Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner said that she would sooner burn the house down than sell it for only $1,000,000.
After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging', according to court filings.
Rattner moved many possessions into storage right before the fire. She claimed that she was 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its sale and preparing to move into a rental. The insurance company argued that she was protecting her valuables from the fire.
Chubb produced cell phone records that suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her defense countered that this remained unproven.
According to testimony, a sophisticated home-security system had a wire removed that rendered it inoperable.
Workers at the home testified that Rattner instructed them not to tell insurance investigators about items removed from the home and taken to storage.
Rattner was not in dire economic straights, her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6 million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
Rattner told fire investigators that she had lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but stated that with her children raised, she wanted to downsize and move to an area where she would be less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having spent a significant part of her life customizing.
(confusing paragraph!) Rattner's attorney said that Chubb was building a significant part of their case on evidence that might be inaccurate.
In closing arguments, he said that Chubb is fishing for any excuse to justify denying Ms. Rattner's claim.
There had been recurring (natural gas?) leaks at the time leading up to the fire.
Rattner walked shakily and used a cane during her appearances in court. The Chubb legal team accused her of grossly exaggerating her physical condition in an attempt to garner juror sympathy, stating that she had ridden a bicycle for seven hours on four different occasions in the weeks before the trial, and that she had traveled extensively in the preceding year.
The Chubb attorney stated that there was no doubt that she was physically capable of moving about the Great Falls property. He pointed out that at one point during the trial, she dropped her cane and had no problem leaning forward to retrieve it, seeming to imply that she did not require its use.
Rattner shook her head vigorously as O'Hara spoke and broke into tears in the courtroom.
The now-vacant land where the home once stood was sold for $700,000 in March, according to Real Estate documents.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
just thinking
()
Date: October 28, 2017 08:10AM
Guess she wasn't charged criminally? Should've been.
Posted by:
chuckhoffmann
()
Date: October 28, 2017 11:20AM
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2017 12:48PM by chuckhoffmann.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/01/2017 12:48PM by chuckhoffmann.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
What a dumb bitch
()
Date: October 28, 2017 12:13PM
She could have sold the house and gotten $1-2 million, instead it sold for $700k and she owes the insurance company $1 million LOL
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Goat_Boy
()
Date: October 28, 2017 12:27PM
What a dumb bitch Wrote:
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> She could have sold the house and gotten $1-2
> million, instead it sold for $700k and she owes
> the insurance company $1 million LOL
Back to the old saying - "Crime doesn't pay."
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> She could have sold the house and gotten $1-2
> million, instead it sold for $700k and she owes
> the insurance company $1 million LOL
Back to the old saying - "Crime doesn't pay."
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Dnjdjfjf
()
Date: October 28, 2017 01:19PM
What a dumb bitch Wrote:
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> She could have sold the house and gotten $1-2
> million, instead it sold for $700k and she owes
> the insurance company $1 million LOL
When you’re a member of the tribe, that’s just how you roll.
If her insurance scam had worked (Fire department said it was an accident), then she would be up $10 mil instead of down $2 mil. You win some, you lose some.
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> She could have sold the house and gotten $1-2
> million, instead it sold for $700k and she owes
> the insurance company $1 million LOL
When you’re a member of the tribe, that’s just how you roll.
If her insurance scam had worked (Fire department said it was an accident), then she would be up $10 mil instead of down $2 mil. You win some, you lose some.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
who knew the Jew
()
Date: October 28, 2017 08:27PM
The whole family is rotten. Link to the $10 million dollar settlement her brother made - for trying to bribe his way into controlling the NY State Pension fund -
http://fortune.com/2010/12/30/ex-car-czar-steve-rattner-settles-pay-to-play-scandal/
Crime may not pay, but like Hillary Clinton "The rules don't apply to us...." for the Rattners. I am sure she will have her expensive lawyers appeal - but the jury saw it perfectly clearly!
http://fortune.com/2010/12/30/ex-car-czar-steve-rattner-settles-pay-to-play-scandal/
Crime may not pay, but like Hillary Clinton "The rules don't apply to us...." for the Rattners. I am sure she will have her expensive lawyers appeal - but the jury saw it perfectly clearly!
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
KMYPE
()
Date: April 09, 2018 09:41PM
I have to bump this, it makes me laff.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
UTFPC
()
Date: February 17, 2019 07:11PM
KMYPE Wrote:
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> I have to bump this, it makes me laff.
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> I have to bump this, it makes me laff.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
WOWW!!!
()
Date: February 17, 2019 07:56PM
Wow!!!!
Rattner had been trying to sell the house for years before it burned down, frequently reducing the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be sold at an unreserved auction, with the house being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum price.
Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner said that she would sooner burn the house down than sell it for only $1,000,000.
After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging', according to court filings.
Rattner moved many possessions into storage right before the fire. She claimed that she was 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its sale and preparing to move into a rental. The insurance company argued that she was protecting her valuables from the fire.
Chubb produced cell phone records that suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her defense countered that this remained unproven.
According to testimony, a sophisticated home-security system had a wire removed that rendered it inoperable.
Workers at the home testified that Rattner instructed them not to tell insurance investigators about items removed from the home and taken to storage.
Rattner was not in dire economic straights, her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6 million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
Rattner told fire investigators that she had lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but stated that with her children raised, she wanted to downsize and move to an area where she would be less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having spent a significant part of her life customizing.
Rattner had been trying to sell the house for years before it burned down, frequently reducing the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be sold at an unreserved auction, with the house being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum price.
Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner said that she would sooner burn the house down than sell it for only $1,000,000.
After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging', according to court filings.
Rattner moved many possessions into storage right before the fire. She claimed that she was 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its sale and preparing to move into a rental. The insurance company argued that she was protecting her valuables from the fire.
Chubb produced cell phone records that suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her defense countered that this remained unproven.
According to testimony, a sophisticated home-security system had a wire removed that rendered it inoperable.
Workers at the home testified that Rattner instructed them not to tell insurance investigators about items removed from the home and taken to storage.
Rattner was not in dire economic straights, her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6 million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
Rattner told fire investigators that she had lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but stated that with her children raised, she wanted to downsize and move to an area where she would be less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having spent a significant part of her life customizing.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
McLean Resident
()
Date: February 18, 2019 01:03PM
There is a bigger point being missed here. Why couldn't our taxes dollars put the fire out? Each truck is almost a million dollars, 3/4 of a million riding on it in salaries. Still couldn't save the building....SAD
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Expert Started it?
()
Date: February 18, 2019 01:20PM
McLean Resident Wrote:
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> There is a bigger point being missed here. Why
> couldn't our taxes dollars put the fire out? Each
> truck is almost a million dollars, 3/4 of a
> million riding on it in salaries. Still couldn't
> save the building....SAD
Probably because the fire was perfectly timed and started when everybody was asleep at 1am on Sunday\Monday. It probably burned out of control for an hour before it was reported. If I had to guess, it sounds to me like she hired an expert for the fire.
I'd be checking into other "fires" by that family or group of friends.
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> There is a bigger point being missed here. Why
> couldn't our taxes dollars put the fire out? Each
> truck is almost a million dollars, 3/4 of a
> million riding on it in salaries. Still couldn't
> save the building....SAD
Probably because the fire was perfectly timed and started when everybody was asleep at 1am on Sunday\Monday. It probably burned out of control for an hour before it was reported. If I had to guess, it sounds to me like she hired an expert for the fire.
I'd be checking into other "fires" by that family or group of friends.
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
she burnt down her own house
()
Date: March 17, 2021 05:12PM
Translation Wrote:
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> Translation:
>
> Two years ago, Susan Rattner's 11,000 sq.
> foot, multi-million dollar mansion in Great Falls,
> VA burned down in the middle of the night.
> Rattner's insurance company accused her of
> either starting the fire, or knowing who did. On
> Wednesday, a jury sided with Chubb Countrywide
> Insurance Co., issuing a ruling that will cost
> Rattner hundreds of thousands of dollars.
> Jeff O'Hara, an attorney for Chubb told
> jurors that while Ms. Rattner claim to love the
> house, the truth is that she disliked the house.
> Following the fire, Rattner sued Chubb for
> $10,000,000, the maximum allowed under her policy.
> Chubb countersued for $945,000, the cost the
> company spent on investigating the suspicious
> fire. After deliberating for seven days, the jury
> awarded Chubb the total amount of their claim.
> The fire started just after midnight on Nov.
> 15, 2015. It took several hours to contain,
> according to officials of the Fairfax County Fire
> Department. One firefighter was briefly
> hospitalized with minor injuries.
> While it was never determined how the fire
> started, investigators declared the fire to have
> been intentionally set.
> Rattner had been trying to sell the house for
> years before it burned down, frequently reducing
> the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a
> week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be
> sold at an unreserved auction, with the house
> being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum
> price.
> Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who
> worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner
> said that she would sooner burn the house down
> than sell it for only $1,000,000.
> After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to
> delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the
> house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead
> body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging',
> according to court filings.
> Rattner moved many possessions into storage
> right before the fire. She claimed that she was
> 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its
> sale and preparing to move into a rental. The
> insurance company argued that she was protecting
> her valuables from the fire.
> Chubb produced cell phone records that
> suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from
> her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her
> defense countered that this remained unproven.
> According to testimony, a sophisticated
> home-security system had a wire removed that
> rendered it inoperable.
> Workers at the home testified that Rattner
> instructed them not to tell insurance
> investigators about items removed from the home
> and taken to storage.
> Rattner was not in dire economic straights,
> her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6
> million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per
> year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
> Rattner told fire investigators that she had
> lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but
> stated that with her children raised, she wanted
> to downsize and move to an area where she would be
> less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was
> in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having
> spent a significant part of her life customizing.
> (confusing paragraph!) Rattner's attorney
> said that Chubb was building a significant part of
> their case on evidence that might be inaccurate.
> In closing arguments, he said that Chubb is
> fishing for any excuse to justify denying Ms.
> Rattner's claim.
> There had been recurring (natural gas?) leaks
> at the time leading up to the fire.
> Rattner walked shakily and used a cane during
> her appearances in court. The Chubb legal team
> accused her of grossly exaggerating her physical
> condition in an attempt to garner juror sympathy,
> stating that she had ridden a bicycle for seven
> hours on four different occasions in the weeks
> before the trial, and that she had traveled
> extensively in the preceding year.
> The Chubb attorney stated that there was no
> doubt that she was physically capable of moving
> about the Great Falls property. He pointed out
> that at one point during the trial, she dropped
> her cane and had no problem leaning forward to
> retrieve it, seeming to imply that she did not
> require its use.
> Rattner shook her head vigorously as O'Hara
> spoke and broke into tears in the courtroom.
> The now-vacant land where the home once stood
> was sold for $700,000 in March, according to Real
> Estate documents.
Remember this wacky C U Next Tuedsay?
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> Translation:
>
> Two years ago, Susan Rattner's 11,000 sq.
> foot, multi-million dollar mansion in Great Falls,
> VA burned down in the middle of the night.
> Rattner's insurance company accused her of
> either starting the fire, or knowing who did. On
> Wednesday, a jury sided with Chubb Countrywide
> Insurance Co., issuing a ruling that will cost
> Rattner hundreds of thousands of dollars.
> Jeff O'Hara, an attorney for Chubb told
> jurors that while Ms. Rattner claim to love the
> house, the truth is that she disliked the house.
> Following the fire, Rattner sued Chubb for
> $10,000,000, the maximum allowed under her policy.
> Chubb countersued for $945,000, the cost the
> company spent on investigating the suspicious
> fire. After deliberating for seven days, the jury
> awarded Chubb the total amount of their claim.
> The fire started just after midnight on Nov.
> 15, 2015. It took several hours to contain,
> according to officials of the Fairfax County Fire
> Department. One firefighter was briefly
> hospitalized with minor injuries.
> While it was never determined how the fire
> started, investigators declared the fire to have
> been intentionally set.
> Rattner had been trying to sell the house for
> years before it burned down, frequently reducing
> the price but never below $3,000,000. Less than a
> week after the fire, the house was scheduled to be
> sold at an unreserved auction, with the house
> being sold to the highest bidder with no minimum
> price.
> Patricia Murphy, a Real Estate agent who
> worked with Rattner, testified that the homeowner
> said that she would sooner burn the house down
> than sell it for only $1,000,000.
> After the fire, Rattner asked Murphy to
> delete an e-mail in which Rattner wrote that the
> house would sell for $1,000,000 "over my dead
> body,"* calling the e-mail 'pretty damaging',
> according to court filings.
> Rattner moved many possessions into storage
> right before the fire. She claimed that she was
> 'decluttering' the house in preparation for its
> sale and preparing to move into a rental. The
> insurance company argued that she was protecting
> her valuables from the fire.
> Chubb produced cell phone records that
> suggest that Rattner traveled to Great Falls from
> her Delaware home on the night of the fire. Her
> defense countered that this remained unproven.
> According to testimony, a sophisticated
> home-security system had a wire removed that
> rendered it inoperable.
> Workers at the home testified that Rattner
> instructed them not to tell insurance
> investigators about items removed from the home
> and taken to storage.
> Rattner was not in dire economic straights,
> her attorneys said, detailing an estate worth $4.6
> million dollars, a separate income of $468,000 per
> year and additional cash gifts from a brother.
> Rattner told fire investigators that she had
> lived in Great Falls for a quarter century, but
> stated that with her children raised, she wanted
> to downsize and move to an area where she would be
> less reliant on driving. But, she said, she was
> in no hurry to sell the Great Falls house, having
> spent a significant part of her life customizing.
> (confusing paragraph!) Rattner's attorney
> said that Chubb was building a significant part of
> their case on evidence that might be inaccurate.
> In closing arguments, he said that Chubb is
> fishing for any excuse to justify denying Ms.
> Rattner's claim.
> There had been recurring (natural gas?) leaks
> at the time leading up to the fire.
> Rattner walked shakily and used a cane during
> her appearances in court. The Chubb legal team
> accused her of grossly exaggerating her physical
> condition in an attempt to garner juror sympathy,
> stating that she had ridden a bicycle for seven
> hours on four different occasions in the weeks
> before the trial, and that she had traveled
> extensively in the preceding year.
> The Chubb attorney stated that there was no
> doubt that she was physically capable of moving
> about the Great Falls property. He pointed out
> that at one point during the trial, she dropped
> her cane and had no problem leaning forward to
> retrieve it, seeming to imply that she did not
> require its use.
> Rattner shook her head vigorously as O'Hara
> spoke and broke into tears in the courtroom.
> The now-vacant land where the home once stood
> was sold for $700,000 in March, according to Real
> Estate documents.
Remember this wacky C U Next Tuedsay?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Fire in the hole!
()
Date: May 02, 2022 11:35PM
Did that wacky old broad pay up?
Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Folliar
()
Date: September 02, 2022 10:30AM
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Re: Million Dollar Mansion in Great Falls\Reston Burns to Ground
Posted by:
Jfjfjfgb
()
Date: September 03, 2022 07:34PM
This is a classic example of a great old thread
Yes, I’m pretty sure I participated in it.
High quality content. Compared to all the worthless spam shit now
Yes, I’m pretty sure I participated in it.
High quality content. Compared to all the worthless spam shit now