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DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
DeCelles I'm not
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Date: October 29, 2015 09:15AM
He complains about the media and politicians for interfering with his hateful and discriminatory agenda, then with a sleight of hand "endorses" a slate of candidates in Tuesday's election. Just read his November 1 bulletin. Hopefully our new Bishop will send this ham-fisted bigot packing soon - back to Texas where he belongs.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
cry me a river
()
Date: October 29, 2015 09:41AM
New bishop? We've had the same bishop for 16 years. Your butt must be so hurt from the pounding your boyfriend gives it.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
dejesus
()
Date: October 29, 2015 10:38AM
cry me a river Wrote:
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> New bishop? We've had the same bishop for 16
> years. Your butt must be so hurt from the
> pounding your boyfriend gives it.
Bishop Loverde turned 75 in September, the retirement age for bishops.
His replacement will be named in the next few months.
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> New bishop? We've had the same bishop for 16
> years. Your butt must be so hurt from the
> pounding your boyfriend gives it.
Bishop Loverde turned 75 in September, the retirement age for bishops.
His replacement will be named in the next few months.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
ho hum
()
Date: October 29, 2015 10:42AM
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
6513occ
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Date: October 29, 2015 11:13AM
We need more Fr. DeCelles and less Ryan McElveen.
Sorry he hurt your feelings =(
Sorry he hurt your feelings =(
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Bill.N.
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Date: October 29, 2015 12:11PM
Is that guy still around? I used to hear horror stories about him from friends about 10-15 years ago.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: October 29, 2015 03:19PM
He's still here, until his seven year term at St. Raymond's expires in 4 years. I'm buying my celebratory balloons early.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Absolutely
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Date: October 29, 2015 03:25PM
Fr. DeCelles tries to help people; Ryan McElveen helps himself and does not care about others.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
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Date: October 29, 2015 05:09PM
Hundreds of former St. Raymond's parishioners have moved to Nativity in recent years since he arrived. It's a much more welcoming and uplifting place that is open to all. You walk out feeling uplifted and happy each week not like a piece of crap which is how Deceles makes you feel.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
duTxw
()
Date: October 29, 2015 06:22PM
DeCelles is a cancer.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Mark j
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Date: October 29, 2015 08:46PM
Are you at this again????
"Not decelle". ..get a life! You are beyond stupid to go to mass at this parish...you are obviously a f'N lib...you better fit at Nativity...go there and good riddance...
"Not decelle". ..get a life! You are beyond stupid to go to mass at this parish...you are obviously a f'N lib...you better fit at Nativity...go there and good riddance...
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Steve b
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Date: October 29, 2015 09:18PM
It is time for the bishop to act.
Whether you agree with the priest's far right leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the Church.
He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by training, then a priest by his version of a calling. I applaud him for finding God.
But Father Gould had a way of having you think without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist advisers he uses to justify the positions he creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
Whether you agree with the priest's far right leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the Church.
He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by training, then a priest by his version of a calling. I applaud him for finding God.
But Father Gould had a way of having you think without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist advisers he uses to justify the positions he creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: October 29, 2015 09:55PM
Steve b Wrote:
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> It is time for the bishop to act.
> Whether you agree with the priest's far right
> leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well
> as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the
> Church.
> He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by
> training, then a priest by his version of a
> calling. I applaud him for finding God.
> But Father Gould had a way of having you think
> without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
> Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist
> advisers he uses to justify the positions he
> creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
I'd love to know how he is "violating the Constitution." Please enlighten us.
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> It is time for the bishop to act.
> Whether you agree with the priest's far right
> leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well
> as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the
> Church.
> He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by
> training, then a priest by his version of a
> calling. I applaud him for finding God.
> But Father Gould had a way of having you think
> without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
> Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist
> advisers he uses to justify the positions he
> creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
I'd love to know how he is "violating the Constitution." Please enlighten us.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Steve b
()
Date: October 29, 2015 10:09PM
QW...you are correct, I misspoke.
Meant seperation of church and state..
Not really Constitutional, is it.
Just one of those inviolate principles of our country....unless you think that the clergy should be deeply involved in elections. That has worked out really well in the Middle East with their clergy directing the populace via religious guilt and directed voting.
Meant seperation of church and state..
Not really Constitutional, is it.
Just one of those inviolate principles of our country....unless you think that the clergy should be deeply involved in elections. That has worked out really well in the Middle East with their clergy directing the populace via religious guilt and directed voting.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: October 30, 2015 08:06AM
Steve b Wrote:
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> QW...you are correct, I misspoke.
>
> Meant seperation of church and state..
>
> Not really Constitutional, is it.
>
> Just one of those inviolate principles of our
> country....unless you think that the clergy should
> be deeply involved in elections. That has worked
> out really well in the Middle East with their
> clergy directing the populace via religious guilt
> and directed voting.
The First Amendment's Establishment clause is a restriction on the Government, not the people. Religious organizations are free to speak (freedom of speech and religious expression). Urging church members to vote in accordance with their religious and moral principles (which is all DeCelles is doing) is perfectly fine.
You really should learn a little more about the Constitution and why your analogy to the Middle East is deeply flawed.
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> QW...you are correct, I misspoke.
>
> Meant seperation of church and state..
>
> Not really Constitutional, is it.
>
> Just one of those inviolate principles of our
> country....unless you think that the clergy should
> be deeply involved in elections. That has worked
> out really well in the Middle East with their
> clergy directing the populace via religious guilt
> and directed voting.
The First Amendment's Establishment clause is a restriction on the Government, not the people. Religious organizations are free to speak (freedom of speech and religious expression). Urging church members to vote in accordance with their religious and moral principles (which is all DeCelles is doing) is perfectly fine.
You really should learn a little more about the Constitution and why your analogy to the Middle East is deeply flawed.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
questionablechange
()
Date: October 30, 2015 01:48PM
For the most part, we avoid his masses. He can give a great homily, but you never know what you will get and when you have little kids, it was getting old to hear homilies every week about homosexuality and gay marriage. We have no issues with the teaching or hearing about it, but it was endless for awhile.
I'm sure it's ramping up again being election day soon. Not to mention, the drama with FCPS school board. That was the other frustrating thing, in the spring when he basically told parents they should take their kids out of FCPS and homeschool or do Catholic school (which he would help pay for?!). Nevermind that he has parishioners that are FCPS employees and he doesn't seem to mind getting their weekly contribution.
I feel he's a bit nervous about what will happen when a new bishop comes aboard and if he will finish off his time at st rays.
I'm sure it's ramping up again being election day soon. Not to mention, the drama with FCPS school board. That was the other frustrating thing, in the spring when he basically told parents they should take their kids out of FCPS and homeschool or do Catholic school (which he would help pay for?!). Nevermind that he has parishioners that are FCPS employees and he doesn't seem to mind getting their weekly contribution.
I feel he's a bit nervous about what will happen when a new bishop comes aboard and if he will finish off his time at st rays.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Steve b
()
Date: October 30, 2015 05:13PM
Again, thanks to QW for a focused civics lesson.
In this area, churches have historically not directly involved themselves in political endorsement of specific candidates. They have usually restricted themselves to generalized statements exhorting the masses to vote according to religious principles. The problem is the definition of those principles. Our current pope must be confusing to Decelles. Charity, love, acts of kindness....the removal of or lack of direction toward those tenets is why we ceased attending there. His pulpit lashings about the public schools showed his ignorance of what they did or were doing. He wasn't interested, it was opposite of his upbringing in Texas. Boy Scouts thrown out, money they raised seized by him, parents told to keep crying small children home...
Now this. Jeopardize the tax exempt status of the church by openly and firmly demanding parishioners vote according to his political leanings.
Yes, the Middle East analogy is extreme, would have been worse if it wasn't stated to me by a clergyman.
In this area, churches have historically not directly involved themselves in political endorsement of specific candidates. They have usually restricted themselves to generalized statements exhorting the masses to vote according to religious principles. The problem is the definition of those principles. Our current pope must be confusing to Decelles. Charity, love, acts of kindness....the removal of or lack of direction toward those tenets is why we ceased attending there. His pulpit lashings about the public schools showed his ignorance of what they did or were doing. He wasn't interested, it was opposite of his upbringing in Texas. Boy Scouts thrown out, money they raised seized by him, parents told to keep crying small children home...
Now this. Jeopardize the tax exempt status of the church by openly and firmly demanding parishioners vote according to his political leanings.
Yes, the Middle East analogy is extreme, would have been worse if it wasn't stated to me by a clergyman.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Amen
()
Date: November 01, 2015 09:35PM
Amen brother. Go elsewhere if you seek love, compassion, understanding or forgiveness. However, if ye seek Salem re the 1690's, this place is for you.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Amen, amen, dico vobis
()
Date: November 02, 2015 07:43AM
Amen Wrote:
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> Amen brother. Go elsewhere if you seek love,
> compassion, understanding or forgiveness. However,
> if ye seek Salem re the 1690's, this place is for
> you.
Surely you mean Salem ca. the 1690s.
Also, the Puritans, not the Catholics, burned the witches.
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> Amen brother. Go elsewhere if you seek love,
> compassion, understanding or forgiveness. However,
> if ye seek Salem re the 1690's, this place is for
> you.
Surely you mean Salem ca. the 1690s.
Also, the Puritans, not the Catholics, burned the witches.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: November 04, 2015 01:31PM
Well now, how did those endorsements work for you?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: November 04, 2015 06:30PM
Stevie B...Nativity welcomes you with open arms...now get going!!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Going, going, gone
()
Date: November 05, 2015 10:52AM
Yes, I do think it is time to move on to Nativity. When even apparent parishioners are not open to a meaningful dialogue, my parish has lost its way. I will always remember walking through the woods with Fr. Gould before the first bulldozers commenced their work, looking for the crucifix that we had attached to a tree the year before. That was real Catholicism - inviting one and all to participate as a community of faith without questioning their attire, their noisy children, or their voting record. I miss those days at West Springfield HS when the very idea of building a new parish was sometimes in doubt...but our evenings together in the basement of the Hooes Road rectory bound us to work for the ultimate goal regardless of our personal differences. Perhaps we'll return in a few years, perhaps not. Until then, . . .
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: November 05, 2015 11:15AM
Amen, amen, dico vobis Wrote:
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> Surely you mean Salem ca. the 1690s.
>
> Also, the Puritans, not the Catholics, burned the
> witches.
The Salem witch scare was the Puritans. However no witches were burned. The executions were by hanging. I believe one man was crushed to death, but he had not been condemned. I am not aware of any witch burnings by English colonists in the new world. I believe the Spanish did.
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> Surely you mean Salem ca. the 1690s.
>
> Also, the Puritans, not the Catholics, burned the
> witches.
The Salem witch scare was the Puritans. However no witches were burned. The executions were by hanging. I believe one man was crushed to death, but he had not been condemned. I am not aware of any witch burnings by English colonists in the new world. I believe the Spanish did.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Question2
()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:50AM
What makes Nativity so much better?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
()
Date: November 06, 2015 10:44AM
I'd say the homilies are much more positive and uplifting. Nativity priests focus on positive themes while St. Ray's focuses on negative ones.
You leave St. Ray's feeling guilty and mad as you are told that you are a no good sinner, that the word is full of homosexuals that will ruin society and that you are a piece of shit if you don't hate them and march against abortion every weekend, etc.
Nativity preaches about accepting everybody, forgiveness and hope. You walk out feeling uplifted and hopeful rather that bad about your self and the world.
You leave St. Ray's feeling guilty and mad as you are told that you are a no good sinner, that the word is full of homosexuals that will ruin society and that you are a piece of shit if you don't hate them and march against abortion every weekend, etc.
Nativity preaches about accepting everybody, forgiveness and hope. You walk out feeling uplifted and hopeful rather that bad about your self and the world.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Question2
()
Date: November 06, 2015 11:52AM
Thanks. I believe that I fall into the forgiveness and understanding camp.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hangup
()
Date: November 06, 2015 03:50PM
Decelles definitely has a Hangup on gay marriage. He once mentioned it about 5 weeks straight in homilies.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Tourney
()
Date: November 06, 2015 06:46PM
Decelles is a fascist bigot.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Papa Frank
()
Date: November 06, 2015 07:28PM
The fact the Decelles is a parish priest speaks to the serious shortage of priests in the Church. No way should he have a parish. He needs to be squirreled away in a monastery somewhere, where he can do no further damage to the faith.
This guy is so obsessed with gays it's troubling. He needs help. Indeed, Fr. DeCelles has become confused about the teachings of the Church. I expect the new bishop will lay down the law with him.
This guy is so obsessed with gays it's troubling. He needs help. Indeed, Fr. DeCelles has become confused about the teachings of the Church. I expect the new bishop will lay down the law with him.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
StealingfromCubScouts
()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:11PM
DeCelles may be a homophobic bigot but we shouldn't forget that he also steals from Cub Scouts. Any idea how his Trail Life group did after he plundered and kicked out the Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hangup
()
Date: November 06, 2015 08:27PM
I'm not sure if it's still active. It was a shame since several Catholic Churches across the country sponsor troops. I can understand the Girl Scouts since they straight up donate to planned parenthood. But there was likely no gay leaders interested in joining the pack there.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:17AM
You are correct about stealing money from the Boy Scouts. How anyone could do that after those kids worked their butts off to raise that money is beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact that a priest did it, really shows his true colors. Not a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of himself.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Pot calling kettle!
()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:53AM
A lot of research in recent years revealing that homophonic people are gay.
Maybe Fr. DeCelles is projecting his own self hate on the congregation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html?_r=0
Maybe Fr. DeCelles is projecting his own self hate on the congregation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/homophobic-maybe-youre-gay.html?_r=0
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: November 08, 2015 12:59PM
Nativity Wrote:
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> You are correct about stealing money from the Boy
> Scouts. How anyone could do that after those kids
> worked their butts off to raise that money is
> beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact that a
> priest did it, really shows his true colors. Not
> a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> himself.
It's not stealing when it always belonged to you in the first place.
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> You are correct about stealing money from the Boy
> Scouts. How anyone could do that after those kids
> worked their butts off to raise that money is
> beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact that a
> priest did it, really shows his true colors. Not
> a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> himself.
It's not stealing when it always belonged to you in the first place.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hangup
()
Date: November 08, 2015 07:52PM
Yes, technically it was the troops money and he transferred it to the new life trail troop. The issue was with kids who didn't want to do trail life and had to find a new troop and lose what they had done.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Shutup
()
Date: November 08, 2015 08:34PM
Hey hang up...did not know Girl Scouts contributed to planned parenthood..now I will not by anymore cookies...I do not support murderers
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: November 09, 2015 08:59AM
Oh my goodness. Just think what DeCelles will write next week about the Starbucks red cup controversy. The End of Days is upon us.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
()
Date: November 09, 2015 10:11AM
Quality Watcher Wrote:
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> Nativity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are correct about stealing money from the
> Boy
> > Scouts. How anyone could do that after those
> kids
> > worked their butts off to raise that money is
> > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact that
> a
> > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
> Not
> > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > himself.
>
>
> It's not stealing when it always belonged to you
> in the first place.
Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts. It would be like joining a kids soccer club and having the coach give all the player's money given to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to be Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn Scouting related benefits. He took their money to fund another unrelated group.
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> Nativity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You are correct about stealing money from the
> Boy
> > Scouts. How anyone could do that after those
> kids
> > worked their butts off to raise that money is
> > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact that
> a
> > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
> Not
> > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > himself.
>
>
> It's not stealing when it always belonged to you
> in the first place.
Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts. It would be like joining a kids soccer club and having the coach give all the player's money given to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to be Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn Scouting related benefits. He took their money to fund another unrelated group.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hoompa Papa
()
Date: November 09, 2015 11:28AM
I would expect better from a former CPA. Now - On to the War Against Christmas.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
cnDvX
()
Date: November 09, 2015 05:51PM
As far as getting a new bishop, Arlington is about 8th on the list of Dioceses whose bishop has aged out, so it may be another six months if we're lucky. We are behind Rockville Center NY, Lafayette LA, Memphis TN, and Anchorage AK among others. They don't necessarily do them in order by any means, but they may not see Arlington as anything to hurry about.
Also, pastors in Arlington do not have fixed terms. Someone mentioned 7 years above, but there is no official term. They do try not to let it go into double digits, especially with an older man because it can be really hard to get them to move on, but if the situation demands it, such as an ongoing capital campaign, they'll let it happen.
DeCelles has been in his current spot for 5 years as of last July. He was named administrator for the first year, then that was extended for a second year, and finally made pastor at the beginning of his third year.
Also, pastors in Arlington do not have fixed terms. Someone mentioned 7 years above, but there is no official term. They do try not to let it go into double digits, especially with an older man because it can be really hard to get them to move on, but if the situation demands it, such as an ongoing capital campaign, they'll let it happen.
DeCelles has been in his current spot for 5 years as of last July. He was named administrator for the first year, then that was extended for a second year, and finally made pastor at the beginning of his third year.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: November 09, 2015 06:19PM
Nativity Wrote:
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> Quality Watcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nativity Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You are correct about stealing money from the
> > Boy
> > > Scouts. How anyone could do that after those
> > kids
> > > worked their butts off to raise that money is
> > > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact
> that
> > a
> > > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
> > Not
> > > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> > > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > > himself.
> >
> >
> > It's not stealing when it always belonged to
> you
> > in the first place.
>
>
> Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts.
> It would be like joining a kids soccer club and
> having the coach give all the player's money given
> to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to be
> Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn
> Scouting related benefits. He took their money to
> fund another unrelated group.
Sorry, you are incorrect. The money belongs to the charter organization (the Church), not the Scouts. I'm not necessarily agreeing with the move, but it wasn't theft.
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> Quality Watcher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nativity Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You are correct about stealing money from the
> > Boy
> > > Scouts. How anyone could do that after those
> > kids
> > > worked their butts off to raise that money is
> > > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact
> that
> > a
> > > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
> > Not
> > > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit to
> > > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > > himself.
> >
> >
> > It's not stealing when it always belonged to
> you
> > in the first place.
>
>
> Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts.
> It would be like joining a kids soccer club and
> having the coach give all the player's money given
> to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to be
> Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn
> Scouting related benefits. He took their money to
> fund another unrelated group.
Sorry, you are incorrect. The money belongs to the charter organization (the Church), not the Scouts. I'm not necessarily agreeing with the move, but it wasn't theft.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
cnDvX
()
Date: November 09, 2015 06:57PM
The real problem with the Scouts & the money is that DeCelles lacks the insight to understand that the perception of his action is more important that the "rule." However, that lack of insight has marked his tenure at St. Raymonds and, as a result, he is proud of some of his poorest decisions.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
()
Date: November 10, 2015 09:15AM
Quality Watcher Wrote:
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> Nativity Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Quality Watcher Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nativity Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You are correct about stealing money from
> the
> > > Boy
> > > > Scouts. How anyone could do that after
> those
> > > kids
> > > > worked their butts off to raise that money
> is
> > > > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact
> > that
> > > a
> > > > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
>
> > > Not
> > > > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit
> to
> > > > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > > > himself.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not stealing when it always belonged to
> > you
> > > in the first place.
> >
> >
> > Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts.
>
> > It would be like joining a kids soccer club and
> > having the coach give all the player's money
> given
> > to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to
> be
> > Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn
> > Scouting related benefits. He took their money
> to
> > fund another unrelated group.
>
> Sorry, you are incorrect. The money belongs to
> the charter organization (the Church), not the
> Scouts. I'm not necessarily agreeing with the
> move, but it wasn't theft.
Fair enough if that's what he charter says. However, given the circumstances and the children involved it was their money and in my opinion he stole it. He's not a nice person and it's a shame that the lesson he chose to teach those kids is that life isn't fair and you cannot trust people ...even clergy. He's a sad and petty man who has no perspective. Spirituality and religion are about having a relationship with God and being better people. Kindness, forgiveness and doing the right thing should be paramount. I hope one day he realizes that.
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> Nativity Wrote:
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> > Quality Watcher Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Nativity Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You are correct about stealing money from
> the
> > > Boy
> > > > Scouts. How anyone could do that after
> those
> > > kids
> > > > worked their butts off to raise that money
> is
> > > > beyond me. It's unconscionable. The fact
> > that
> > > a
> > > > priest did it, really shows his true colors.
>
> > > Not
> > > > a nice man, not a good role model, not fit
> to
> > > > counsel others. He ought to be ashamed of
> > > > himself.
> > >
> > >
> > > It's not stealing when it always belonged to
> > you
> > > in the first place.
> >
> >
> > Not true, the money belonged to the Boy Scouts.
>
> > It would be like joining a kids soccer club and
> > having the coach give all the player's money
> given
> > to an ice hockey team instead. They wanted to
> be
> > Scouts, they raised money as Scouts to earn
> > Scouting related benefits. He took their money
> to
> > fund another unrelated group.
>
> Sorry, you are incorrect. The money belongs to
> the charter organization (the Church), not the
> Scouts. I'm not necessarily agreeing with the
> move, but it wasn't theft.
Fair enough if that's what he charter says. However, given the circumstances and the children involved it was their money and in my opinion he stole it. He's not a nice person and it's a shame that the lesson he chose to teach those kids is that life isn't fair and you cannot trust people ...even clergy. He's a sad and petty man who has no perspective. Spirituality and religion are about having a relationship with God and being better people. Kindness, forgiveness and doing the right thing should be paramount. I hope one day he realizes that.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hoopa papa
()
Date: November 10, 2015 12:17PM
How true. The $3,500 and change "owed" the scouts would not have bankrupt St. Rays. I believe that it was more of the opportunity to stick it to the scouts.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Tyrone2
()
Date: November 10, 2015 02:10PM
Damn it. Is DeCelles the only priest that hasn't abused children? Are we sure?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
N76nW
()
Date: November 10, 2015 03:03PM
DeCelles is a thief and a cancer. There is no God in that man.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PumpedUp
()
Date: November 13, 2015 09:46AM
This week its a diatribe against "leftists." My goodness, this priest is the gift that keeps on giving. Better than HBO.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
FaithFamilyFriends
()
Date: November 21, 2015 12:55AM
Sad to see by these posts how ignorant people are about Catholic teaching. Father DeCelles may not be warm & fuzzy like Fr. Gould, but both are holy priests and we are blessed in this diocese to have so many of them -- thanks to Bishop Keating, then Loverde. Many many folks are at St Raymond's precisely because of Fr DeCelles and we are so grateful to hear the truth, no matter how "uncool" in today's PC culture!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
FriendofAggie
()
Date: November 23, 2015 12:38PM
Yup, it's uncool to single out crying children, single Mothers, and the Boy Scouts. Oh wait, that's DeCelles in a nutshell.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
HoopaLoopa
()
Date: November 24, 2015 08:54AM
Let us not forget the homophobia and gender bias. Uncool, DeCelles, uncool.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: November 25, 2015 12:57PM
. . .where is Fr. Gould?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Anyman
()
Date: November 25, 2015 09:47PM
Just go to another church already if you are not unhappy. I'm grateful for anyone who is a priest and it's a tough job to toe the line between doctrine and delivery. Lord knows I couldn't do it. DeCelles is correct on doctrine - the church opposes both gay marriage and planned parethood because it is a huge abortion provider. I understand the delivery part...but move on!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Topsy Turvy
()
Date: January 14, 2016 10:15AM
Yup, its a new year and this week our angst in directed at Donald Trump (a threat to DeCelles' infatuation with Ted Cruz perhaps).
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: January 14, 2016 07:20PM
Fr. Gould is in Warrenton.
okay, time to move on people! If you are not happy at St Ray's, go somewhere else. Doctrine is doctrine and will not change bc YOU and the libs/commies are unhappy or don't believe the same.
find a church (Catholic or non Cath) and get moving! run along now and play nice
okay, time to move on people! If you are not happy at St Ray's, go somewhere else. Doctrine is doctrine and will not change bc YOU and the libs/commies are unhappy or don't believe the same.
find a church (Catholic or non Cath) and get moving! run along now and play nice
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nativity
()
Date: January 14, 2016 09:52PM
Move on? No thanks. Some of us fight for what we believe in... but we appreciate your advice.
It's not about doctrine it's about being a nice person or not. He is not a nice person, he's mean spirited and close minded.
By the way, Church doctrine (in fact the very basis of much of the Catholic faith) is about forgiveness, helping those in need and being kind to the poor and needy. When is the last time he preached about these issues?? Instead he chooses to focus on gay rights, abortion and politics. And his homilies are designed to make you feel bad about yourself instead of uplifting. He focuses on the negative not the positive.
And, oh yeah.. he effectively stole money from kids who worked their butts off to earn it.
Move on? I have moved on from his mean spirited masses by moving to another parish like hundreds of others have done. But I am not letting it go.
It's not about doctrine it's about being a nice person or not. He is not a nice person, he's mean spirited and close minded.
By the way, Church doctrine (in fact the very basis of much of the Catholic faith) is about forgiveness, helping those in need and being kind to the poor and needy. When is the last time he preached about these issues?? Instead he chooses to focus on gay rights, abortion and politics. And his homilies are designed to make you feel bad about yourself instead of uplifting. He focuses on the negative not the positive.
And, oh yeah.. he effectively stole money from kids who worked their butts off to earn it.
Move on? I have moved on from his mean spirited masses by moving to another parish like hundreds of others have done. But I am not letting it go.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
yopsy turvy
()
Date: January 15, 2016 08:23AM
Amen to the comments from Nativity. Mercy is an unknown concept at St. Rays. We'll see you at Nativity this weekend.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
expat st rays
()
Date: January 15, 2016 01:15PM
Intolerance and injustice will never be thwarted by silence.
Shame on all of you who resort to name calling and "be quiet and go elsewhere" retorts. It was a failure to bring perceived wrongdoing to light years ago which placed our Church in the reviled moral position that it is in today.
Rejoice in dissent...consider it...for it may hold a kernel of truth.
Shame on all of you who resort to name calling and "be quiet and go elsewhere" retorts. It was a failure to bring perceived wrongdoing to light years ago which placed our Church in the reviled moral position that it is in today.
Rejoice in dissent...consider it...for it may hold a kernel of truth.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Query???
()
Date: January 20, 2016 09:22AM
What are the chances of Fr. Gould returning?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Expat StRays2
()
Date: January 20, 2016 11:00PM
Indeed there are many who built the church only to leave in search of the word of God, not the word of a right wingnut.
Be positive, uplifting? Not able to pull that off. And his cabal of advisors don't like that kind of Catholic Church. They like narrow and right wing, because they are as well.
It is time for a change in leadership back to the warmth and Gospels that brought St. Raymond's together, held it together through the Holy Fire Hall, the Father Cuillo debacle. Father Gould stood up and forgave Father Cuillo in front of everyone, the living Gospel for all to see.
Decelles just doesn't have it in him to act in that manner.
It's time.
Be positive, uplifting? Not able to pull that off. And his cabal of advisors don't like that kind of Catholic Church. They like narrow and right wing, because they are as well.
It is time for a change in leadership back to the warmth and Gospels that brought St. Raymond's together, held it together through the Holy Fire Hall, the Father Cuillo debacle. Father Gould stood up and forgave Father Cuillo in front of everyone, the living Gospel for all to see.
Decelles just doesn't have it in him to act in that manner.
It's time.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
yopsy turvy
()
Date: January 21, 2016 09:15AM
Amen to the last post. We wept over Fr. Cuillo's betrayal of our trust - and money - yet the ability of our parish, led by Fr. Gould, to forgive was a lesson to all who believe in the goodness of mankind and our Church.
Nothing like it has been seen on Pohick Road since that time. We pray that one day the cloud of intolerance that has descended upon us will be removed, hopefully to an administrative position where no further harm can be done.
Ours is a loving and tolerant Church. The present occupant of our rectory will never understand that.
Nothing like it has been seen on Pohick Road since that time. We pray that one day the cloud of intolerance that has descended upon us will be removed, hopefully to an administrative position where no further harm can be done.
Ours is a loving and tolerant Church. The present occupant of our rectory will never understand that.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
herewego
()
Date: February 19, 2016 08:22AM
Cannot wait to see DeCelles twist himself into knots defending the GOP this weekend.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
xGHW9
()
Date: February 19, 2016 08:34AM
Personally, I am very happy to see the Pope pitch into politics and call those who disagree with his political views “un-Christian.” This is going to smoke out a ton of hypocrisy on the part of those who normally would go nuts if anyone else said that about them. And nothing like seeing hypocrisy.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
expat st rays
()
Date: February 19, 2016 03:13PM
Hard to explain away torture, the ordered killing of parents and children, and multiple marriages/affairs. But do not fear, he'll find a way to do it.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Fuck you, Oborona
()
Date: February 19, 2016 06:33PM
nDbLD
Decelles disses women again
Posted by:
Decelles disses women again
()
Date: March 12, 2016 03:54PM
Now he declines Pope Francis' invitation to wash women's feet on Holy Thursday, essentially saying that he would be distracted.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Mark j
()
Date: March 12, 2016 10:36PM
Who cares...I would not want to wash your f'N feet either! Re-read the bulletin again moron, he included everyone...all races, young, old ,etc .you need to be in the confession line!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
uwb4V
()
Date: March 13, 2016 09:41AM
Many are hundreds of years behind the Holy Father.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AgainAgain
()
Date: March 14, 2016 11:13AM
Yeah, he tried to include "everyone" in his denial, then he makes specific references to men being distracted by women. His history speaks for itself, so you cannot interpret this as an all encompassing decision. Listening to the murmurs after Mass this weekend, many would agree. It won't change a thing though; he's infallible in his own eyes.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: March 14, 2016 02:31PM
I chuckled at the bulletin post because it's exactly what we would expect from him. I don't understand why he couldn't have just kept it being the altar servers, saying he wanted to keep with parish tradition. The pope and bishop allows girl alter servers, yet St. Raymonds doesn't and it doesn't seem to be a big deal to anyone. I think it's too bad to remove it completely from Holy Thursday mass.
I find it interesting that two employees left in such a short time (plant manager and RE director). One by choice and one pushed out, but still?!
I find it interesting that two employees left in such a short time (plant manager and RE director). One by choice and one pushed out, but still?!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
herewego
()
Date: March 14, 2016 03:19PM
Those who remain will support him no matter what he says or does. The rest await his transfer to another unsuspecting parish.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
tax lawyer
()
Date: March 14, 2016 03:31PM
>"endorses" a slate of candidates in Tuesday's election
I don't have a dog in this race, but here's a little something to think about.
Most, but not all, churches enjoy the benefits of tax exempt status under the IRS tax code. Churches are generally free to express whatever beliefs they have about issues; but endorsing specific candidates for public office is believed by many who know to violate the tax law, and can lead to revocation of tax exempt status.
I'm surprised the Archdiocese of Arlington doesn't give local churches better guidance. Or maybe they have a different opinion?
I don't have a dog in this race, but here's a little something to think about.
Most, but not all, churches enjoy the benefits of tax exempt status under the IRS tax code. Churches are generally free to express whatever beliefs they have about issues; but endorsing specific candidates for public office is believed by many who know to violate the tax law, and can lead to revocation of tax exempt status.
I'm surprised the Archdiocese of Arlington doesn't give local churches better guidance. Or maybe they have a different opinion?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: March 14, 2016 04:42PM
I don't think the diocese can control every homily given by every priest in the diocese. Most know not to get into politics but some don't care.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
JphtD
()
Date: March 14, 2016 05:07PM
>I don't think the diocese can control every homily given by every priest in the diocese. Most know not to get into politics but some don't care.
They have certainly failed to control the priest's other interests over the years. Or did they share them?
They have certainly failed to control the priest's other interests over the years. Or did they share them?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: March 14, 2016 05:18PM
Decelle's interests or in general?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
No DeCelles Fan
()
Date: March 15, 2016 06:05PM
I'm not sure why this troubles anyone. After all, he only wanted to fondle the feet of alter boys. Now that he can't do just young boys he doesn't want to do it at all.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: April 12, 2016 03:54PM
He's at it again a little after the popes new document. He is NOT a fan of pope Francis.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
DkDuW
()
Date: April 12, 2016 09:35PM
DeCelles is a cancer.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: May 09, 2016 03:49PM
this week's homily was a fun one. ugh
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Mark j
()
Date: May 09, 2016 09:47PM
Ditto jgo..you others, move along now
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
herewego
()
Date: May 12, 2016 09:48AM
I cannot wait for his reaction to Pope Francis's comments regarding the possibility of women becoming Deacons. His head will probably explode.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
topsytwo
()
Date: May 12, 2016 03:43PM
I thought I heard a scream on Pohick Road this afternoon.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: June 13, 2016 02:03PM
Rats - he avoided a transfer yet again. Another year of angst.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
mark j
()
Date: June 13, 2016 08:07PM
Well, to eliminate "angst", try going to another church or get some Xanax
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hmmmm
()
Date: June 14, 2016 08:49PM
> Indeed there are many who built the church only to leave in search of the word of God, not the word of a right wingnut
doing good in a world of debt and lying is not easy as deciding to do it. there are limitations even if one knows how (what to do) such as MONEY which people are very quick to hide no matter what deed is being done, unless it serves their cadre. you would quickly hear cackles over a phone and accusations you need their "mental care" if you asked for aid doing something "right".
also the Church does not have a policy of "once your in your mine and must slave in boring prayer". they have study and building (sects). but also it's not required to stay. infact to gain more in their ranks they may wish to loosen the "impending nature of committing to it" (though still being non-competing for local wealth or women, therefore being trusted by others, while serving). i'm sure they are in the public more and probably have phones (not all, depends upon the "order"). unfortuntely in the past things like poverty where great attractors and there must be a wave of something differnt without that to keep community services active. communities are not together and dont plan the community as they once had - and it shows. what that would be that is not such a shock to those considering (study ability (offtime planning), years expected of service, etc), i have no comment i dont know. i would be the wrong person to ask due to my quests, age, other status.
> Be positive, uplifting?
i might visit their home and demand compliance. "sure you say halleluia when your here. what did you do after you left this week. huh?? pay up!!"
there is prayer then there is proving time to pray by production without theft (noting - without being stopped by those wishing to keep control amongst themselves). nothing is easy. keeping in the order not easy. leaving after a stay and expecting to provide great things and have others follow in the same way - and dimish those who were not doing so in comparison, would not be easy when attempted.
doing good in a world of debt and lying is not easy as deciding to do it. there are limitations even if one knows how (what to do) such as MONEY which people are very quick to hide no matter what deed is being done, unless it serves their cadre. you would quickly hear cackles over a phone and accusations you need their "mental care" if you asked for aid doing something "right".
also the Church does not have a policy of "once your in your mine and must slave in boring prayer". they have study and building (sects). but also it's not required to stay. infact to gain more in their ranks they may wish to loosen the "impending nature of committing to it" (though still being non-competing for local wealth or women, therefore being trusted by others, while serving). i'm sure they are in the public more and probably have phones (not all, depends upon the "order"). unfortuntely in the past things like poverty where great attractors and there must be a wave of something differnt without that to keep community services active. communities are not together and dont plan the community as they once had - and it shows. what that would be that is not such a shock to those considering (study ability (offtime planning), years expected of service, etc), i have no comment i dont know. i would be the wrong person to ask due to my quests, age, other status.
> Be positive, uplifting?
i might visit their home and demand compliance. "sure you say halleluia when your here. what did you do after you left this week. huh?? pay up!!"
there is prayer then there is proving time to pray by production without theft (noting - without being stopped by those wishing to keep control amongst themselves). nothing is easy. keeping in the order not easy. leaving after a stay and expecting to provide great things and have others follow in the same way - and dimish those who were not doing so in comparison, would not be easy when attempted.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Judas
()
Date: June 14, 2016 11:19PM
Huh??
You have some good weed hmmmmm...
You have some good weed hmmmmm...
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
herewego
()
Date: June 15, 2016 09:49AM
DeCelles and the High Sparrow.....perfect together.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
6513occ
()
Date: June 15, 2016 02:07PM
hangup2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rats - he avoided a transfer yet again. Another
> year of angst.
Unsurprising. He is extremely well-liked by parishoners. As documented by this thread, those who don't like him have plenty of other options. For those of us that do actually like being challenged by the Catholic faith instead of being coddled and told how much Jesus loves us despite our terribly sinful lives, we'll stay.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rats - he avoided a transfer yet again. Another
> year of angst.
Unsurprising. He is extremely well-liked by parishoners. As documented by this thread, those who don't like him have plenty of other options. For those of us that do actually like being challenged by the Catholic faith instead of being coddled and told how much Jesus loves us despite our terribly sinful lives, we'll stay.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: June 15, 2016 02:18PM
hangup2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rats - he avoided a transfer yet again. Another
> year of angst.
Or you could remember that courtesy of the Great Schism, the Reformation and the First Amendment, YOU HAVE CHOICES. Your parish priest no longer holds the only key to your salvation.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Rats - he avoided a transfer yet again. Another
> year of angst.
Or you could remember that courtesy of the Great Schism, the Reformation and the First Amendment, YOU HAVE CHOICES. Your parish priest no longer holds the only key to your salvation.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: June 15, 2016 02:29PM
With all due respect to the last poster, the current resident of the St. Raymond's rectory would disagree.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
bangup2
()
Date: June 15, 2016 02:55PM
hangup2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> With all due respect to the last poster, the
> current resident of the St. Raymond's rectory
> would disagree.
Bill.N. is a prototypical beta male so he can be ignored.
That being said, move on from St. Raymond's. There are a dozen other options in Fairfax. If you don't like the tenor and tone of the parish, leave. Please.
-------------------------------------------------------
> With all due respect to the last poster, the
> current resident of the St. Raymond's rectory
> would disagree.
Bill.N. is a prototypical beta male so he can be ignored.
That being said, move on from St. Raymond's. There are a dozen other options in Fairfax. If you don't like the tenor and tone of the parish, leave. Please.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: June 15, 2016 04:01PM
We've discussed moving on for a year or so and yes I guess it's time. Sorry to leave, of course, but our Catholic upbringing stressed love and compassion...how we long for the days of Fr. Gould.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: June 15, 2016 05:14PM
hangup2 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> With all due respect to the last poster, the
> current resident of the St. Raymond's rectory
> would disagree.
Perhaps, but he only has that power if you give it to him. If God is as all knowing and all powerful as we believe, he won't lose track of you simply because you decide to worship at another address. Even the guy who thinks I am a beta male agrees.
-------------------------------------------------------
> With all due respect to the last poster, the
> current resident of the St. Raymond's rectory
> would disagree.
Perhaps, but he only has that power if you give it to him. If God is as all knowing and all powerful as we believe, he won't lose track of you simply because you decide to worship at another address. Even the guy who thinks I am a beta male agrees.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 22, 2016 03:23PM
Not a surprise that he's not being transferred....don't pastors stay at least 7 years? I think he has one year left until that point but could stay longer.
I wonder how this new priest will be?
I wonder how this new priest will be?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: June 23, 2016 02:17PM
After this weeks attack on the FCPS Board, he had better be a strong home-school proponent. One has to wonder what's in the water on Pohick Road?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 24, 2016 10:59AM
I wish he would stay out of the public school discussion. Last year he straight up told families to take their kids out of the public schools. I know FCPS school board isn't making the best choices but he is really out of line in these situations.
His preference is Catholic school and he was very disappointed that he was put at a parish with no school. So, he promotes Angelus or homeschooling. A homeschooling group was not allowed as "official" under Gould but is now an official group he works closely with. He is very wrong if he thinks there aren't issues in these school options, too, and it's a huge assumption that they are the best for every family.
His preference is Catholic school and he was very disappointed that he was put at a parish with no school. So, he promotes Angelus or homeschooling. A homeschooling group was not allowed as "official" under Gould but is now an official group he works closely with. He is very wrong if he thinks there aren't issues in these school options, too, and it's a huge assumption that they are the best for every family.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
m73LJ
()
Date: June 25, 2016 06:15PM
whatever happened to monestaries starting agricultural communities and discovering capicino? how many communities start groundlessly with nothing to do?
were overdo for another capacino class discovery!
were overdo for another capacino class discovery!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
twpcC
()
Date: June 25, 2016 06:16PM
(nothing to do but justify their debt of gov spending == nothing in my book)
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
JustAxing
()
Date: June 26, 2016 10:32AM
Steve b Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It is time for the bishop to act.
> Whether you agree with the priest's far right
> leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well
> as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the
> Church.
> He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by
> training, then a priest by his version of a
> calling. I applaud him for finding God.
> But Father Gould had a way of having you think
> without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
> Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist
> advisers he uses to justify the positions he
> creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
Steve b, you're right that the bishop should act, but I can assure you he won't. This bishop has one interest - money. Go ahead and send letters, request meetings but The only way you can get action is to hit him in the wallet. But be prepared for a fight back.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It is time for the bishop to act.
> Whether you agree with the priest's far right
> leanings, he is violating the Constitution as well
> as jeopardizing the tax exempt status of the
> Church.
> He is a west Texas conservative, an accountant by
> training, then a priest by his version of a
> calling. I applaud him for finding God.
> But Father Gould had a way of having you think
> without demeaning you. He was a real priest.
> Time for him to go and the cabal of extremist
> advisers he uses to justify the positions he
> creates, all in the name of God. Time for change.
Steve b, you're right that the bishop should act, but I can assure you he won't. This bishop has one interest - money. Go ahead and send letters, request meetings but The only way you can get action is to hit him in the wallet. But be prepared for a fight back.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 26, 2016 10:41AM
Ahhh. Really bad homily, telling girls they will soon have to shower with boys.
Maybe his public school employee parishioners should stop giving money if he hates the public schools so bad.
Maybe his public school employee parishioners should stop giving money if he hates the public schools so bad.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: June 27, 2016 08:12AM
Your right about the homily. Pathetic.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 27, 2016 02:43PM
Compare this to the lovely send-off for Fr. Larsen at Saint Bernadette's on Saturday night.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Pathetic
()
Date: June 27, 2016 06:34PM
No matter where you are on the religious spectrum, you must agree the guy is a tool. A self centered, self righteous ass of the highest caliber. He doesn't have a single shred of Jesus's teachings in his heart. He's mean and vindictive and has the audacity to question the Pope and anyone else who he personally disagrees with.
My advice is move on to anther parish ASAP and leave this jerk behind. Sooner or later the bishop will have to replace him or fire him.
My advice is move on to anther parish ASAP and leave this jerk behind. Sooner or later the bishop will have to replace him or fire him.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: June 27, 2016 07:09PM
hangup Wrote:
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> Ahhh. Really bad homily, telling girls they will
> soon have to shower with boys.
> Maybe his public school employee parishioners
> should stop giving money if he hates the public
> schools so bad.
I'm glad someone is speaking out against this transanity.
Treating the mentally ill as normal is truly insane.
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> Ahhh. Really bad homily, telling girls they will
> soon have to shower with boys.
> Maybe his public school employee parishioners
> should stop giving money if he hates the public
> schools so bad.
I'm glad someone is speaking out against this transanity.
Treating the mentally ill as normal is truly insane.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 27, 2016 10:13PM
I had to chuckle at the new article about the pope saying we need to apologize to gays. Bet decelles loved that.
I will say again, it's his delivery. He can have a good homily speaking out against it (like scalia) without telling our daughters they will have to start showering naked With boys. Uncalled for.
What's st. Bernadettes like? I know most people go to nativity but we don't really care for that parish.
I will say again, it's his delivery. He can have a good homily speaking out against it (like scalia) without telling our daughters they will have to start showering naked With boys. Uncalled for.
What's st. Bernadettes like? I know most people go to nativity but we don't really care for that parish.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:23AM
We as a family switched to St. Bernadette's a while ago. Fr. Larsen, Vu, Wilson, and Wooten are all exceptional priests. Wooten was given a standing ovation for announcing that ALL would always be welcome at Mass....Larsen was of a similar vein. Unfortunately, Wooten was transferred last year, and today Fr. Larsen leaves for a parish in Leesburg. So we are in a state of transition. The new priest is from Fredericksburg, but no one seems to know much about him.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:28AM
Continued from last post. There is a grand mix of nationalities here, and volunteers number in the hundreds. So it can be said that parish morale is high. I will note that there are quite a few St. Raymond expats.....in the past we nodded to each other not knowing if we/they were visiting or transferring. That is in the past; now we all commiserate about our "lost" parish and pray for the removal of Fr. DeCelles and his hurtful reign.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Rooneyiscool
()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:41AM
The new pastor at St Bernadette is Father Rooney. He's a great guy and a great priest. He's an excellent homilist. Before he became a priest he owned a graphic design agency in Dallas so expect some design changes. He spent time in the missions and suffered a crippling accident but full recovered. He is a terrific teacher. I don't know of anyone who doesn't like Father Rooney. He taught the class that brought my wife into the Catholic Church. We were sad to see him leave the parish. His farewell party was huge.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 28, 2016 08:59AM
Thank you for the Fr. Rooney information. It sounds like he was loved by his parish just as we loved and respected Fr. Larsen (who also had a great send-off event this weekend). We do not miss DeCelles' complaints about our Holy Fathers' interpretations, so Fr. Rooney appears to be a good replacement for us at St. B's. Perhaps we'll send an update in a few months....
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Rooneyiscool
()
Date: June 28, 2016 04:16PM
DeCelles is a disappointment. Usually the priests entering the priesthood at a later age are wonderful. A couple in the diocese were widowers who raised large families before their wives died One of my favorites was a retired military officer Vietnam war hero who had five kids. De Celles has a habit of publicly badmouthing other priests and I'm sure he has strong feelings about the pope. I had a very public conflict with DeCelles over remarks he made about another priest who does more in a day than DeCelles has done in his priesthood. It was probably no way to treat a priest in public but I went a bit ballistic. I believe he teaches truth but it's an abrasive manner that drives people away rather than attracting them. All-in-all this diocese is blessed with some really great priests. DeCelles is the worst example especially for someone as a pastor.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Judas
()
Date: June 28, 2016 11:00PM
hangup Wrote:
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> Ahhh. Really bad homily, telling girls they will
> soon have to shower with boys.
> Maybe his public school employee parishioners
> should stop giving money if he hates the public
> schools so bad.
While his delivery is harsh and not eloquent,his message is spot on..the govt has been taking our liberty and societal perversions are now being nudged to look normal. His message is about our loss of Liberty and how we are being forced into silence. Fr.Gould had the same messages,he just had a slicker way to talk..message was the same.
I agree with DeCelles..you libs are the ones angry..why? Hmmmm?
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> Ahhh. Really bad homily, telling girls they will
> soon have to shower with boys.
> Maybe his public school employee parishioners
> should stop giving money if he hates the public
> schools so bad.
While his delivery is harsh and not eloquent,his message is spot on..the govt has been taking our liberty and societal perversions are now being nudged to look normal. His message is about our loss of Liberty and how we are being forced into silence. Fr.Gould had the same messages,he just had a slicker way to talk..message was the same.
I agree with DeCelles..you libs are the ones angry..why? Hmmmm?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 29, 2016 09:46AM
I am kind of curious to see how this new priest is at St. Raymonds.
What's the CCD like at St. Bernadette? We have that to consider as well as sacrament prep so feel like we need to move quickly on this if we are going to move.
Also, is there a big divide between the school aspect of the parish and those who don't go to the school? That's a big turn off when a parish school gets so much focus and ignores that there are families who choose not to attend the school.
What's the CCD like at St. Bernadette? We have that to consider as well as sacrament prep so feel like we need to move quickly on this if we are going to move.
Also, is there a big divide between the school aspect of the parish and those who don't go to the school? That's a big turn off when a parish school gets so much focus and ignores that there are families who choose not to attend the school.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Rooneyiscool
()
Date: June 29, 2016 11:37AM
Here is a news clip on the new priest for St Raymond...doesn't look too promising
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/father_charles_smith_arrested.php
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/father_charles_smith_arrested.php
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 29, 2016 01:00PM
I would say that there is a nice balance between school and non-school families here. The Scouts are strong, unlike St. Raymonds where they were booted to the curb, and many volunteer groups. The annual volunteer dinner usually is attended by up to 500. That speaks volumes as to the enthusiasm to serve the parish. There's even a new "Greeter" group that meets parishioners at the door before each Mass.
As for the link to the Fr. Smith article, I can only say WOW.
As for the link to the Fr. Smith article, I can only say WOW.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 29, 2016 01:03PM
Interesting. Wonder when he want back to a parish. He's been at st. Ambrose in the last few years.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 29, 2016 01:10PM
Also, if this means he has a short temper and anger issues then he won't get along with decelles very well. And I worry for the homilies.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
.....1....
()
Date: June 29, 2016 11:40PM
Smith is surprisingly mellow. A little dry at times but pretty good. Thought he would be at least a little fiery given his fists o' fury moment...But the old priest he clubbed sounded like he was a little Walder Fray-ish.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: June 30, 2016 11:38AM
We've been 90% successful in avoiding Decelles mass. We can go to other parishes for random Sundays. The problem we have is wanting CCD and the mass attendance cards are stressful to figure out for sacrament year...makes it harder to skip St. Rays for a sunday.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: June 30, 2016 02:06PM
I suggest that you visit the parish office at St. Bernadette's for your CCD questions. We have found the staff there to be extremely helpful over the years. If anything, the CCD program is overcrowded...they always need more volunteers....but it doesn't have the doom and gloom that our children first experienced at St. Raymond's after Fr. DeCelles revamped the staff and program there.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: July 03, 2016 12:24PM
today was a fresh breath of air after last week's homily. Not sure if those two will get along....Decelles had a little dig about us getting to know him in the homily.
I wonder if Scalia is the priest to talk to if there are any more issues with Decelles? He must read the bulletin and know what Decelles is saying.
Working together with Decelles as a parish to fight what FCPS is doing isn't a problem...but him wanting to fight while also alienating the public school families is the issue. he needs to come from an understanding that most of his parish are public school families.
I wonder if Scalia is the priest to talk to if there are any more issues with Decelles? He must read the bulletin and know what Decelles is saying.
Working together with Decelles as a parish to fight what FCPS is doing isn't a problem...but him wanting to fight while also alienating the public school families is the issue. he needs to come from an understanding that most of his parish are public school families.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: July 07, 2016 08:31AM
Well the good vibes lasted until this weekends bulletin. You have to read it to believe it.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Questionablechange
()
Date: July 07, 2016 11:41AM
No surprise. I'm actually surprised he only guilted everyone into catholic school and not homeschooling.
Seriously, does he think his public school teachers and administrators feel welcome? Does he want their tainted government money?
Seriously, does he think his public school teachers and administrators feel welcome? Does he want their tainted government money?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Aggiefan
()
Date: July 14, 2016 08:26AM
Wishful thinking. He waited until this week to push the homeschool button. Next week, I cannot wait to see how he justifies 3-wife-Trump.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Float like a butterfly
()
Date: July 14, 2016 07:49PM
Rooneyiscool Wrote:
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> Here is a news clip on the new priest for St
> Raymond...doesn't look too promising
>
> http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/father_char
> les_smith_arrested.php
So a vicar beats up the pastor and then the bishop transfers that vicar to St. Raymond's? I wonder if DeCelles gets the hint. I'm sure the collections have dropped off big time at St Rays.
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> Here is a news clip on the new priest for St
> Raymond...doesn't look too promising
>
> http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/12/father_char
> les_smith_arrested.php
So a vicar beats up the pastor and then the bishop transfers that vicar to St. Raymond's? I wonder if DeCelles gets the hint. I'm sure the collections have dropped off big time at St Rays.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: July 14, 2016 08:59PM
He was at st. Ambrose for a few years before st. Raymond's. Looks like they have him time to cool off before sending him to st. Ambrose. It was clear in his homily that it was hard to move and he was upset about it. I don't know if he knew what he was getting into with decelles.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
aggiefan
()
Date: July 15, 2016 08:31AM
Fr. Smith will perhaps learn the true meaning of holding ones tongue in the face of misogyny.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: July 15, 2016 09:36AM
After all the preaching, decelles was at the school board meeting!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Aggiefan
()
Date: July 15, 2016 09:50AM
Maybe he'll learn something about our inclusive society and let our young female church members become alter servers. we remain, I believe, only one of two churches in the diocese who prohibit participation by our young girls.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Mark j
()
Date: July 15, 2016 08:00PM
The bishop does not care...he had back surgery and is retiring shortly.
Otherwise, what DeCelles says...I'm ok with it
Otherwise, what DeCelles says...I'm ok with it
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PokieHokie
()
Date: July 26, 2016 10:05AM
There's a Pokeman gym in the St. Raymonds parking lot. The good news: attendance is through the roof. The bad news: DeCelles will blast the immoral liberal media in his next letter. Go Yellow Team!!!!!!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: July 26, 2016 03:29PM
Pokémon and St. Raymonds. Now that's funny.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: July 27, 2016 08:53AM
That will be the next announcement, no playing on church property.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PokemonRocks
()
Date: July 27, 2016 09:12PM
Looks like I'll be going to church this week.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: July 28, 2016 03:34PM
Looks like DeCelles is heading out on vacation. Let the Pokémon invasion begin.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: August 18, 2016 01:31PM
Vacation must have done Fr. DeCelles a world of good.....this week he only states that FCPSs "brainwash" children.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: August 28, 2016 01:40PM
One good homily from Smith has been better than 6 years of lecturing from decelles. And another helpful bulletin letter alllll about the transgender issue again and his "Helpful" advice to take your kids out of the public schools!!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
()
Date: September 28, 2016 01:59PM
What are the chances that he implicitly "endorses" adultery and torture in tomorrow's released bulletin?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Ice cream
()
Date: September 28, 2016 04:06PM
Hang ups, you are idiots
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: September 29, 2016 08:38AM
Call the Pope "disgraceful" - earn the endorsement of Decelles. Enough said.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: October 13, 2016 08:38AM
We knew it was coming. This morning the DeCelles' non-endorsement/endorsement came out. Not surprising, but we still weep for the future of our Church.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Aggiefan
()
Date: October 13, 2016 03:30PM
Attempting to explain away a physical assault, i.e., groping, may be his last straw. I hope someone reports him to the Chancery in Arlington.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
YKLck
()
Date: October 13, 2016 06:25PM
Aggiefan Wrote:
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> Attempting to explain away a physical assault,
> i.e., groping, may be his last straw. I hope
> someone reports him to the Chancery in Arlington.
He probably thinks he can get away with anything before the new Bishop is installed. He probably also thinks that saying that he's not endorsing makes his letter ok. Then too, you can call a pig a cow, but that won't make it moo.
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> Attempting to explain away a physical assault,
> i.e., groping, may be his last straw. I hope
> someone reports him to the Chancery in Arlington.
He probably thinks he can get away with anything before the new Bishop is installed. He probably also thinks that saying that he's not endorsing makes his letter ok. Then too, you can call a pig a cow, but that won't make it moo.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Ice cream
()
Date: October 13, 2016 07:16PM
Glad he is speaking up...he is correct...one candidate abhors the constitution and dont start with your bullsh?t HC is innocent...
And the Pope is pushing a Communism and he is a disgrace...satan has taken over the Church that is for sure...
God bless Trump!
Go Trump!
And the Pope is pushing a Communism and he is a disgrace...satan has taken over the Church that is for sure...
God bless Trump!
Go Trump!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Joepa
()
Date: October 16, 2016 04:49PM
Please compare Fr, DeCelles' Sunday message, where he ignores the directives of his Pope and bishop AND tries to explain away sexual assault, with the message written by Fr, Rooney at St, Bernadette's.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Awesome
()
Date: October 16, 2016 11:26PM
joepa, stupid question...hope you are not a penn stater
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: October 17, 2016 08:34PM
not surprising at all. Did you see last week's bulletin about how supported loverde was of him through all of the personal criticism he's been through?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
joepa
()
Date: October 20, 2016 12:52PM
But wait...there's more. In a great attempt at revisionist history, he misstates the history behind the parish mass schedule. Now he's blaming cancelling the 7pm Saturday Mass on the GreenSpring folks, and the fact that its attended by non-St. Raymond folks. So much for our Church being for all of the people. of course, we still remember when be curtailed Saturday evening confessions because they interfered with his dinner plans. Maybe he can become Trump's personal confessor.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
VW
()
Date: October 20, 2016 02:54PM
DeCelles is a jackass. There's no other way to phrase it.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
ywkcn
()
Date: October 20, 2016 04:33PM
joepa Wrote:
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> But wait...there's more. In a great attempt at
> revisionist history, he misstates the history
> behind the parish mass schedule. Now he's blaming
> cancelling the 7pm Saturday Mass on the
> GreenSpring folks, and the fact that its attended
> by non-St. Raymond folks. So much for our Church
> being for all of the people. of course, we still
> remember when be curtailed Saturday evening
> confessions because they interfered with his
> dinner plans. Maybe he can become Trump's
> personal confessor.
There are six Sunday Masses without the 7 p.m. vigil. There are two priests assigned. What do you expect him to do? He's very clear about the reasons. Are you saying the retirement community isn't actually in St. Bernadette's parish?
The parish offers confession twice on Wednesdays, twice on Saturdays, and, remarkably, three times on Sundays. That's about as convenient as you can ask for.
Pray for your priests.
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> But wait...there's more. In a great attempt at
> revisionist history, he misstates the history
> behind the parish mass schedule. Now he's blaming
> cancelling the 7pm Saturday Mass on the
> GreenSpring folks, and the fact that its attended
> by non-St. Raymond folks. So much for our Church
> being for all of the people. of course, we still
> remember when be curtailed Saturday evening
> confessions because they interfered with his
> dinner plans. Maybe he can become Trump's
> personal confessor.
There are six Sunday Masses without the 7 p.m. vigil. There are two priests assigned. What do you expect him to do? He's very clear about the reasons. Are you saying the retirement community isn't actually in St. Bernadette's parish?
The parish offers confession twice on Wednesdays, twice on Saturdays, and, remarkably, three times on Sundays. That's about as convenient as you can ask for.
Pray for your priests.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
()
Date: October 22, 2016 04:27PM
I can understand why he did this. Although, there has been some confusion with regards to Greespring. Apparently, several residents went to St. Raymonds from the beginning and he told them that they actually belong to St. Bernadette's parish and need to move. Not sure if that's true, but there was a decline in residents attending mass a year or two after he arrived as Pastor.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Nyet to DeCelles
()
Date: October 22, 2016 06:39PM
We stopped going to St. Raymonds when we learned that De Celles stole money from Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts. Can't believe De Celles would discourage anyone from coming to replace the many, many parishioners who abandoned that church when we learned he was a thief. Perhaps he thought they were gay or maybe he didn't think retired folk would contribute to the collection plate.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Quality Watcher
()
Date: October 22, 2016 08:19PM
Nyet to DeCelles Wrote:
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> We stopped going to St. Raymonds when we learned
> that De Celles stole money from Cub Scouts and Boy
> Scouts. Can't believe De Celles would discourage
> anyone from coming to replace the many, many
> parishioners who abandoned that church when we
> learned he was a thief. Perhaps he thought they
> were gay or maybe he didn't think retired folk
> would contribute to the collection plate.
You can't "steal" what always belonged to you.
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> We stopped going to St. Raymonds when we learned
> that De Celles stole money from Cub Scouts and Boy
> Scouts. Can't believe De Celles would discourage
> anyone from coming to replace the many, many
> parishioners who abandoned that church when we
> learned he was a thief. Perhaps he thought they
> were gay or maybe he didn't think retired folk
> would contribute to the collection plate.
You can't "steal" what always belonged to you.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PAPAJOHN
()
Date: October 27, 2016 04:19PM
No female alter servers - check. Divorce and mistresses - check. Women responsible for single parent families - check. Rightly or wrongly, let's keep the Scouts popcorn money to fund our own group. - check. Texas deserves this fraud..
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
street thug
()
Date: October 27, 2016 08:24PM
Papajohn,
don't want female servers...check
what do you mean..divorce and mistresses? don't start romours, pal.
Fr Gould said the 7pm Mass was a "designer" Mass made just for Greenspring people. If I remember correctly, he had a tussle with the pastor at St B over this and the St B pastor would not talk to him for awhile.
The underlying anger is about not being asked as a parish...only committee members were polled...well, that is about 10% of the parish..what about others? I do NOT believe he said if you were NOT a parishioner , you are NOT welcome...Actually, YOU LIE about about that remark...
I will miss the 7pm...
don't want female servers...check
what do you mean..divorce and mistresses? don't start romours, pal.
Fr Gould said the 7pm Mass was a "designer" Mass made just for Greenspring people. If I remember correctly, he had a tussle with the pastor at St B over this and the St B pastor would not talk to him for awhile.
The underlying anger is about not being asked as a parish...only committee members were polled...well, that is about 10% of the parish..what about others? I do NOT believe he said if you were NOT a parishioner , you are NOT welcome...Actually, YOU LIE about about that remark...
I will miss the 7pm...
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PAPAJOHN
()
Date: October 27, 2016 11:13PM
Sorry that you misunderstood my shorthand.
Female alter servers are banned since they would "distract my boys". (to heck with the Church opening it's arms to everyone)
He will conveniently ignore Trump's multiple wives and extra-marital affairs. (to heck with morality)
The Scout saga has been well documented both here and in the printed press....so much so that both the Boston and Washington dioceses sent donations to the troop.
Female alter servers are banned since they would "distract my boys". (to heck with the Church opening it's arms to everyone)
He will conveniently ignore Trump's multiple wives and extra-marital affairs. (to heck with morality)
The Scout saga has been well documented both here and in the printed press....so much so that both the Boston and Washington dioceses sent donations to the troop.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
PAPAJOHN
()
Date: November 03, 2016 09:06AM
Holy smokes....what a misogynistic diatribe in todays letter. Morality means nothing to this man. Commit adultery, assault women, mock the poor and disabled among us - all is forgiven. So much for the separation of Church and State. If women have any say in our entry into Heaven, I know of one person who's in deep trouble. It's time for the authorities in Arlington to put a stop to this Texas fiasco.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
()
Date: November 03, 2016 09:22AM
Let's not forget torture. He's apparently cool with that too.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
6513occ
()
Date: November 03, 2016 04:10PM
PAPAJOHN Wrote:
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> Holy smokes....what a misogynistic diatribe in
> todays letter. Morality means nothing to this
> man. Commit adultery, assault women, mock the
> poor and disabled among us - all is forgiven. So
> much for the separation of Church and State. If
> women have any say in our entry into Heaven, I
> know of one person who's in deep trouble. It's
> time for the authorities in Arlington to put a
> stop to this Texas fiasco.
Pales in comparison to Hillary's support of abortion on-demand, for any reason, up to the moment of birth, paid for by the taxpayer. Abortion is an intrinsic evil and it is a non-negotiable for Catholics. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Catechism, or join the many other cafeteria Catholics out there who think being Catholic is just too hard :*(
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> Holy smokes....what a misogynistic diatribe in
> todays letter. Morality means nothing to this
> man. Commit adultery, assault women, mock the
> poor and disabled among us - all is forgiven. So
> much for the separation of Church and State. If
> women have any say in our entry into Heaven, I
> know of one person who's in deep trouble. It's
> time for the authorities in Arlington to put a
> stop to this Texas fiasco.
Pales in comparison to Hillary's support of abortion on-demand, for any reason, up to the moment of birth, paid for by the taxpayer. Abortion is an intrinsic evil and it is a non-negotiable for Catholics. If you have a problem with it, take it up with the Catechism, or join the many other cafeteria Catholics out there who think being Catholic is just too hard :*(
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Ice scream
()
Date: November 03, 2016 09:56PM
Spot on 6513...papajohn, do u think clinton is a saint??? I will gladly overlook Trumps past and current antics rather than vote on a globalist Communist puppet of George Soros...I will not vote for Satan..aka Clinton
The diatribe in the bulletin shows Fr DeCelles does not really like either, but if Trump is prolife...well,there ya go..
The diatribe in the bulletin shows Fr DeCelles does not really like either, but if Trump is prolife...well,there ya go..
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
C9ecN
()
Date: November 03, 2016 10:22PM
Ice scream Wrote:
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> Spot on 6513...papajohn, do u think clinton is a
> saint??? I will gladly overlook Trumps past and
> current antics rather than vote on a globalist
> Communist puppet of George Soros...I will not vote
> for Satan..aka Clinton
>
> The diatribe in the bulletin shows Fr DeCelles
> does not really like either, but if Trump is
> prolife...well,there ya go..
I really don't believe that Trump's current prolife position is at all reliable - as with many other issues, he'll swear he never said it if it suits his future convenience.
Aside from that, is there really any evidence that the position of any of the sitting Presidents since Roe v. Wade has made a bit of difference in the abortion situation in this country? I sure can't see it. As for the Supreme Court, we had how many years of a Catholic majority on the court and we STILL have Roe v. Wade.
I think that measuring presidential candidates by this issue as a deal-breaker for Catholics no longer makes much sense given the lack of change over the 40+ years we've been at this.
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> Spot on 6513...papajohn, do u think clinton is a
> saint??? I will gladly overlook Trumps past and
> current antics rather than vote on a globalist
> Communist puppet of George Soros...I will not vote
> for Satan..aka Clinton
>
> The diatribe in the bulletin shows Fr DeCelles
> does not really like either, but if Trump is
> prolife...well,there ya go..
I really don't believe that Trump's current prolife position is at all reliable - as with many other issues, he'll swear he never said it if it suits his future convenience.
Aside from that, is there really any evidence that the position of any of the sitting Presidents since Roe v. Wade has made a bit of difference in the abortion situation in this country? I sure can't see it. As for the Supreme Court, we had how many years of a Catholic majority on the court and we STILL have Roe v. Wade.
I think that measuring presidential candidates by this issue as a deal-breaker for Catholics no longer makes much sense given the lack of change over the 40+ years we've been at this.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup
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Date: December 08, 2016 09:40AM
I like the new Bishop but I don't suppose he will make any big changes to Pastors in 6 months. of course, Decelles gave the Mass tickets to one of his favorite families and didn't do a lottery or something similar for the whole parish.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
hangup2
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Date: December 21, 2016 03:52PM
Been traveling.....missed the lack of a lottery re tickets....not surprising....probably had to do with the money he needs for the rectory "renovations"....did not that he's already crying over one collection this Sunday....
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
ZeePia
()
Date: October 06, 2017 07:57AM
He's back to the FCPS brainwashing homily.....and a weird attempt to link the Las Vegas shooter with abortion.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Dr. Memory
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Date: October 06, 2017 08:23AM
I'm not acquainted with any of the parties to this discussion, nor do I know the subject or his parish. In my experience, though, obsessing about another person's sexual orientation is inevitably projection. Compassion is never out of style.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
quote unattributed
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Date: October 06, 2017 08:53AM
Dr. Memory Wrote:
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> I'm not acquainted with any of the parties to this
> discussion, nor do I know the subject or his
> parish. In my experience, though, obsessing about
> another person's sexual orientation is inevitably
> projection. Compassion is never out of style.
"How can compassion be at odds with the will of a benevolent God?" Just ask the D-Man, who will condemn the FCPS system whenever he needs to massage his ego.
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> I'm not acquainted with any of the parties to this
> discussion, nor do I know the subject or his
> parish. In my experience, though, obsessing about
> another person's sexual orientation is inevitably
> projection. Compassion is never out of style.
"How can compassion be at odds with the will of a benevolent God?" Just ask the D-Man, who will condemn the FCPS system whenever he needs to massage his ego.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Boo hoo to you too
()
Date: October 06, 2017 10:36PM
That is pretty creative to connect LV shooting and abortion. I will attend this weekend just to hear this cool dude
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
AggieFan
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Date: November 08, 2017 08:21AM
Despite strident sermons, another epic failure regarding DeCelles' implicit endorsements. Maybe there is something to his FCPS "brainwashing" theories, or maybe it's time for hearts to be open to all who live among us.
And by the way, does he really want to spend $400,000 on lighting and new murals to glorify his legacy when that sum of money could be spent on truly beneficent purposes within our community?
And by the way, does he really want to spend $400,000 on lighting and new murals to glorify his legacy when that sum of money could be spent on truly beneficent purposes within our community?
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hangup
()
Date: January 07, 2018 08:49PM
Wow. Glad we missed those. We haven’t been going and haven’t missed the homilies or the anxiety over what my kids will hear. I really wish he didn’t have to hate on the schools so much. No they aren’t perfect but there is a place in the system for good practicing Catholics. Employees and kids. Not everyone can homeschool or afford catholic school.
I read he wanted every family to donate $500 to project!
I read he wanted every family to donate $500 to project!
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
Hangup
()
Date: January 11, 2018 04:12PM
So I was just reading the bulletin online and he talked about a speaker that came to George Mason high school to talk about her book about a family with a transgender child. I'm sure he doesn't even realize that George Mason is not a FCPS school. But, he also says the students were "apparently forced" to listen to this talk. I did a little digging and parents were notified about the talk and given the option to opt their children out. It's annoying how he doesn't always tell the whole story about things.
Re: DeCelles is at it again
Posted by:
LBJ
()
Date: January 12, 2018 08:38AM
I should be fun this Sunday to see how he spins Trump's comments with the concept that we are all God's children.