As reported in the Washington Post and WTOP

http://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2015/10/report-fairfax-co-drivers-ticketed-for-infractions-while-in-shop-to-repair-them/

There are some auto repair service stations at an industrial park (14240 Sullyfield Circle, Chantilly).
https://goo.gl/maps/bbASo7RBNNG2

Such as:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/chantilly-service-center-chantilly
https://www.facebook.com/A-H-Equipment-Repair-211884698921803/timeline/

Fairfax County Police was given permission by the landlord of the industrial park to come onto the private property to issue tickets in the parking area -- not wanting commuter cars in their lots. But the FCPD has discovered that there are lots of cars getting their inspection stickers there. And they are parked (legally). So FCPD goes there and tickets all the parked cars with expired inspection stickers, even ones that are in the fucking door to the god damned garage! The service station guys say it's tens of thousands of dollars of tickets issued each year to their customers.

FCPD goes out of their way with their public relations officers telling you at any opportunity that they don't have ticket quotas. But I think we all know that's total bullshit, and they operate contrary to that policy with secret quota systems. More corruption from useless FCPD fuckass lying pig fuckers.

What I want to know is: How are these tickets even legal?
Perhaps some lawyer can explain it to us.

The law is § 46.2-1157.
It says that you can only cite people who are "operating" on the public roads ("highway").
The police can't come up your driveway and ticket you for an expired inspection sticker.
I don't see how "operating on the highway" is the same as "allowed to come onto private property".
Can a private person authorize the police to enforce laws in places other than allowed by statute?

IN ANY CASE it is obviously horrible for the police to ticket people for expired inspection,
when they are sitting there lined up for an inspection sticker!

Fairfax County Police Department
To Fuck and Exploit
Fairfax Fucking Department Of Pig Fuckers
Fuck Them

Just the latest in the mass corruption that has generally characterized FCPD for the past 25 years or so.

I used to have respect for the FCPD, back in the 60s.

And they wonder why people these days seem them as The Enemy...

Stupid pig fuckers.

Fairfax County police sucks ass. They serve no purpose other than to generate revenue for the county.

Way to go pigs!!!

At least they didn't call in the SWAT tards and gun down someone...must be the new "humane" revenue enhancement of Fairfax County...

You voted for this when you elected liberal democrats who believe it is their duty to dictate every detail of your life. Nevermind that few of them can manage their own lives; they always know what's best for you.

you really that stupid...

you are not supposed to allow your registration, insurance or inspections EXPIRE. IE it means that you have to take the god damn vehicle to the shop BEFORE it expires. If the decal on the window reads 10 15 that means before the end of the month you take the car to get a new sticker. If you are driving on November 1 and your stickers still read 10 15 then guess what you are breaking the law. And if you happen to be in the shop parking lot that allows police access to write tickets.... you are still breaking the law.

And you can be charged with having your vehicle parked in your driveway with expired tags/inspection. https://www.municode.com/library/va/fairfax_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=THCOCOFAVI1976_CH110INMOVETRSE

Inoperable Vehicles

Cars, trucks or vehicles that do not work may only be kept on a residential lot if they are within a fully enclosed building or structure, or are kept completely screened or shielded from view in accordance with Chapter 110 of the Code. An inoperable vehicle is defined as one that:

Does not start and move under its own power; or
Does not display valid license plates; or
Does not display a valid inspection decal or one that has been expired for more than 60 days.

how fucking hard is it follow simple rules.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/13/2015 08:23AM by mjs.

While I understand the OPs main point of his post, fucking meter maid, his arguments are fucking stupid.

Just one example..46.2-1157 is the state code section for operating a motor vehicle with expired or no state inspection sticker on a road. This was not the code section the tickets were written under. The meter maid would have written the tickets under the county parking code section for having no/invalid inspection sticker. Totally different code sections.

Another example of the OPs lack of intelligence. The article states the property owner provided authority to the police to come onto the property to enforce parking/traffic violations which means under Virginia law....yes the police can give you a ticket on private property.

Bruce's son has set up a GoFundMe Page to help cover some of the legal cost the family has spent, this is a very small shop and it has hit them hard having to pay for the original case and then the appeal process.

https://www.gofundme.com/e86a93j9

hbWpG Wrote:
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> As reported in the Washington Post and WTOP
>
> http://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2015/10/report-fair
> fax-co-drivers-ticketed-for-infractions-while-in-s
> hop-to-repair-them/
>
> There are some auto repair service stations at an
> industrial park (14240 Sullyfield Circle,
> Chantilly).
> https://goo.gl/maps/bbASo7RBNNG2
>
> Such as:
>
> http://www.yelp.com/biz/chantilly-service-center-c
> hantilly
>
> https://www.facebook.com/A-H-Equipment-Repair-2118
> 84698921803/timeline/
>
> Fairfax County Police was given permission by the
> landlord of the industrial park to come onto the
> private property to issue tickets in the parking
> area -- not wanting commuter cars in their lots.
> But the FCPD has discovered that there are lots of
> cars getting their inspection stickers there. And
> they are parked (legally). So FCPD goes there and
> tickets all the parked cars with expired
> inspection stickers, even ones that are in the
> fucking door to the god damned garage! The service
> station guys say it's tens of thousands of dollars
> of tickets issued each year to their customers.
>
> FCPD goes out of their way with their public
> relations officers telling you at any opportunity
> that they don't have ticket quotas. But I think we
> all know that's total bullshit, and they operate
> contrary to that policy with secret quota systems.
> More corruption from useless FCPD fuckass lying
> pig fuckers.
>
> What I want to know is: How are these tickets even
> legal?
> Perhaps some lawyer can explain it to us.
>
> The law is § 46.2-1157.
> It says that you can only cite people who are
> "operating" on the public roads ("highway").
> The police can't come up your driveway and ticket
> you for an expired inspection sticker.
> I don't see how "operating on the highway" is the
> same as "allowed to come onto private property".
> Can a private person authorize the police to
> enforce laws in places other than allowed by
> statute?
>
> IN ANY CASE it is obviously horrible for the
> police to ticket people for expired inspection,
> when they are sitting there lined up for an
> inspection sticker!
>
> Fairfax County Police Department
> To Fuck and Exploit
> Fairfax Fucking Department Of Pig Fuckers
> Fuck Them
>
> Just the latest in the mass corruption that has
> generally characterized FCPD for the past 25 years
> or so.


Sullyfield Circle is a private road as well...not maintained by the state and owned by the collective in that business park. That is fucked up.

I agree if your sticker is expired it's no one's fault but your own.

However, I think it violates common decency to issue a ticket for an expired sticker when they are actually on the property of the garage doing the inspection. It's just wrong and I would expect more of our public servants.

unethical Wrote:
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>
> However, I think it violates common decency to
> issue a ticket for an expired sticker when they
> are actually on the property of the garage doing
> the inspection. It's just wrong and I would
> expect more of our public servants.

The county government views citizens as sheep to be fleeced. There is no public safety interest in ticketing cars waiting to be inspected. The sad part is there are plenty of code and parking violations to be found out in the neighborhoods - those go unaddressed when the lazy enforcement officer just hangs around inspection stations to make her quota.

ticket quota Wrote:
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> The sad part is there are plenty of code and parking
> violations to be found out in the neighborhoods -
> those go unaddressed

True true. I see cars parking illegally (in clearly marked no parking zones) in our neighborhood (public streets) and they are never ticketed.

These people are trying to get away with the 13 month year where they wait until the first weekend of the month after their inspection expires to get a free month. On my Neighborhood Watch rounds I check for cars within a month of expiring and check them again during the first few days of the next month. I then report any violators I can spot, sometimes getting them two days in a row. Just follow the law and you won't have this problem.

About Time Wrote:
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> These people are trying to get away with the 13
> month year where they wait until the first weekend
> of the month after their inspection expires to get
> a free month. On my Neighborhood Watch rounds I
> check for cars within a month of expiring and
> check them again during the first few days of the
> next month. I then report any violators I can
> spot, sometimes getting them two days in a row.
> Just follow the law and you won't have this
> problem.

Let me guess, you're also on the HOA board?

Hopefully the officer pulls over the wrong one, and gets his.

Anyways, I just put a couple large leaves tucked under my wipers to cover up the sticker if I'm late to get my car inspected.

mjs Wrote:
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> you really that stupid...
>
> And you can be charged with having your vehicle parked in your driveway with expired tags/inspection.
> https://www.municode.com/library/va/fairfax_county
> /codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=THCOCOFAVI1976_CH110INMOVETRSE
>
> Inoperable Vehicles
>
> Cars, trucks or vehicles that do not work may only
> be kept on a residential lot if they are within a
> fully enclosed building or structure, or are kept
> completely screened or shielded from view in
> accordance with Chapter 110 of the Code. An
> inoperable vehicle is defined as one that:
>
> Does not start and move under its own power;
> or
> Does not display valid license plates; or
> Does not display a valid inspection decal or
> one that has been expired for more than 60 days.
>
> how fucking hard is it follow simple rules.

Sorry, retard, but thanks for playing.

The next paragraph of that ordinance that you don't understand says:

Section 110-3-1 shall not preclude the placement or storage of any inoperative motor vehicle ...on any property containing a heavy equipment and SPECIALIZED VEHICLE sale, rental and SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT, a junkyard, a motor vehicle storage and impoundment yard, a SERVICE STATION, a vehicle light service establishment, a VEHICLE MAJOR SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT or a vehicle sale, ...

Are you one of those stupid pig fuckers writing the tickets?
Or is that your husband?

hbWpG Wrote:
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> mjs Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > you really that stupid...
> >
> > And you can be charged with having your vehicle
> parked in your driveway with expired
> tags/inspection.
> >
> https://www.municode.com/library/va/fairfax_county
>
> >
> /codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=THCOCOFAVI1976_CH
> 110INMOVETRSE
> >
> > Inoperable Vehicles
> >
> > Cars, trucks or vehicles that do not work may
> only
> > be kept on a residential lot if they are within
> a
> > fully enclosed building or structure, or are
> kept
> > completely screened or shielded from view in
> > accordance with Chapter 110 of the Code. An
> > inoperable vehicle is defined as one that:
> >
> > Does not start and move under its own
> power;
> > or
> > Does not display valid license plates; or
> > Does not display a valid inspection decal
> or
> > one that has been expired for more than 60
> days.
> >
> > how fucking hard is it follow simple rules.
>
> Sorry, retard, but thanks for playing.
>
> The next paragraph of that ordinance that you
> don't understand says:
>
> Section 110-3-1 shall not preclude the placement
> or storage of any inoperative motor vehicle ...on
> any property containing a heavy equipment and
> SPECIALIZED VEHICLE sale, rental and SERVICE
> ESTABLISHMENT, a junkyard, a motor vehicle storage
> and impoundment yard, a SERVICE STATION, a vehicle
> light service establishment, a VEHICLE MAJOR
> SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT or a vehicle sale, ...
>
> Are you one of those stupid pig fuckers writing
> the tickets?
> Or is that your husband?

You both are trying to argue over a code section that is moot in these cases and that is not the one being used.

About Time Wrote:
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> These people are trying to get away with the 13
> month year where they wait until the first weekend
> of the month after their inspection expires to get
> a free month. On my Neighborhood Watch rounds I
> check for cars within a month of expiring and
> check them again during the first few days of the
> next month. I then report any violators I can
> spot, sometimes getting them two days in a row.
> Just follow the law and you won't have this
> problem.


you need a life and to get laid

OP is a dumb ASS Wrote:

> You both are trying to argue over a code section
> that is moot in these cases and that is not the
> one being used.

According to the FCPD statement in the newspaper,
the code being used is § 46.2-1157.
That's what my original post talked about.

What code section do you think is being used, and why?

I think it's funny that you should use this incident as an example of "stupid liberals" when to me this smacks of authoritarian Republican tactics. This is exactly the kind of thing that the 1% use to keep the poor oppressed. Other examples include but are not limited to: bullshit fees, regressive taxes, excessively high fines for minor infractions, and extremely rigorous enforcement of relatively unimportant codes. I think it's pretty sad that this type of enforcement has been happening anywhere in Fairfax County.

I'm not sure why the owner of the industrial park would open up the property to this kind of police exploitation. For a moment I entertained the idea that perhaps they were getting a kickback, a portion of ticket revenues, for allowing this extra territory in which to write tickets. But I think it's most likely this is one wayward enforcer doing far too much and probably actually doing it out of laziness. The county itself may appear to be somewhat moneygrubbing at times but I still have some confidence in the professionalism of the Fairfax County police. I can think of a few much less pleasant jurisdictions to be arrested in.

hbWpG Wrote:
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> OP is a dumb ASS Wrote:
>
> > You both are trying to argue over a code
> section
> > that is moot in these cases and that is not the
> > one being used.
>
> According to the FCPD statement in the newspaper,
> the code being used is § 46.2-1157.
> That's what my original post talked about.
>
> What code section do you think is being used, and
> why?

Because I have gotten such tickets while parked in my apartment complex. And yes my complex has given the cops the OK to come on the property to write the tickets. 46.2-1157 is not listed on the county parking tickets and its not a county parking law. So the meter maid can not enforce 1157. Go google Fairfax county parking codes or such and read. Or go to the county web page and read. I researched all this when trying to fight the tickets I got.

The tickets we are talking about are not on Residential zoned property; this is the parking lot of some service stations in an industrial park.

hbWpG Wrote:
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> The tickets we are talking about are not on
> Residential zoned property; this is the parking
> lot of some service stations in an industrial
> park.

Uh...huh...AND IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE it says that the owner of that business park has given the police authorization to patrol and enforce the laws of the Commonwealth.

Without that authorization? Then yes, the police would not be permitted to patrol and enforce the laws of the Commonwealth. I mean...outside of investigating a local contractor hiring illegals and then murdering them at the end of the job to avoid paying them and hiding the bodies on private property and junk...