So Fairfax County has decided to throw civil libertarians a bone by indicting Garcia or whatever the sob's name is. Convicting him will be another issue.

But when are the obstruction of justice indictments against all the county officials who assisted with the attempted coverup? Huh?

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Obstruction in the Commonwealth is only a Class 1 misdemeanor unless it includes the element of threatening the investigating party, which means it's on a par with traffic tickets.

At least part of the reason Morrogh turned over the Geer case to the Feds was because obstruction at the Federal level is a felony punishable by 5 years in prison, and he was probably hoping they could force more cooperation out of the recalcitrant FCPD because they had a bigger stick.(Of course, what actually happened was the Feds sat with their thumbs up their asses and the case just sat in the office for several months.)

Another part is that Morrogh has no investigators of his own; he's wholly reliant on the FCPD to do his legwork, and if he pisses them off they might be a little less cooperative with his office, which means fewer convictions.

>Another part is that Morrogh has no investigators of his own; he's wholly reliant on the FCPD to do his legwork, and if he pisses them off they might be a little less cooperative with his office, which means fewer convictions.

Understand that but how does that serve the police, who make the arrests, why would they arrest some one then not cooperate with the Commonwealth?

The main problem is that Fairfax Is a County with 1.1 million people and has a out dated BOS form of useless government with NO ONE in charge

City of Fairfax County with a elected Mayor who can Fire a Police Chief .. You've heard it before ..A Mayor Dem or GOP, for better or worse someone the people can fire every 4 years.

The way Fx co has been going, If a Mayor did the same job that the "toothless dog" the BOS has been doing , they will be fired every 4 years!

And the biggest bitch Keeping it from happening . A name for a new City..

Which would be the Largest in Va and about the 10th largest in the USA and would keep more tax revenue instead of sending it down to Richmond for the state to spend.

"DAJAX" Double Action Jackson

So why haven't the feds indicted anyone? Why are you Mr. Attorney General. I guess you are too busy covering up Hillary's emails.

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Double Action Jackson Wrote:
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> >Another part is that Morrogh has no investigators
> of his own; he's wholly reliant on the FCPD to do
> his legwork, and if he pisses them off they might
> be a little less cooperative with his office,
> which means fewer convictions.
>
> Understand that but how does that serve the
> police, who make the arrests, why would they
> arrest some one then not cooperate with the
> Commonwealth?
>
> The main problem is that Fairfax Is a County with
> 1.1 million people and has a out dated BOS form of
> useless government with NO ONE in charge
>
> City of Fairfax County with a elected Mayor who
> can Fire a Police Chief .. You've heard it before
> ..A Mayor Dem or GOP, for better or worse someone
> the people can fire every 4 years.
>
> The way Fx co has been going, If a Mayor did the
> same job that the "toothless dog" the BOS has been
> doing , they will be fired every 4 years!
>
> And the biggest bitch Keeping it from happening .
> A name for a new City..
>
> Which would be the Largest in Va and about the
> 10th largest in the USA and would keep more tax
> revenue instead of sending it down to Richmond for
> the state to spend.
>
> "DAJAX" Double Action Jackson


For crying outload! Here's the name: "City of the County Fairfax". It's free. to use. All copy rights waived.

http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/will-northern-virginia-become-the-51st-state/

>"City of the County Fairfax" And Not any 51st State with 2 Democrat Senators.

But Dem s on the BOS wont go along as they don't want to chance loosing there seats. So keep on sending hotel taxes and more down Richmond's way. And all suckers keep on paying more for less.

DAJAX

Just one little question....who the fuck is Garcia and why is he being charged with something?

Basically, what are you talking about?????

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repeat after me - world class services, world class schools.

Repeat after me - world class services, world class schools doesn't justify murder.

ANd things aren't as good as you think.

Torres, Garcia, Morales? They're all the same.

Maybe somebody can explain this to me. I have followed this case off and on and even read some of the documents released/posted to the internet by the cops after they were ordered released by the judge.

I can not figure out what was in the IA file that was so important that Morrogh had to have before deciding if the shooting was bad or not. If you look at the shooting alone, it looked bad and should have been enough evidence to take to a grand jury.

So what was in the IA file? Nobody has ever said publicly.

I think it was all smoke and mirrors by Morrogh's office. I do not think they wanted to do anything about and punted it to the feds using the whole IA case file as an excuse. Morrogh probably thought he had washed his hands until public outrage did not go away.

You people of Fairfax County are really idiots.

Who do you think stands between you and the drug selling, child moesting, store robbing, grandparent murdering scum of the earth.

Officer Torres deserves a medal. I wish we had ten more like him. We'd clean up the county in no time.

police man Wrote:
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> Who do you think stands between you and the drug
> selling, child moesting, store robbing,
> grandparent murdering scum of the earth.

Don't call us. We'll call you.

So.. Wrote:
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> Maybe somebody can explain this to me. I have
> followed this case off and on and even read some
> of the documents released/posted to the internet
> by the cops after they were ordered released by
> the judge.
>
> I can not figure out what was in the IA file that
> was so important that Morrogh had to have before
> deciding if the shooting was bad or not. If you
> look at the shooting alone, it looked bad and
> should have been enough evidence to take to a
> grand jury.
>
> So what was in the IA file? Nobody has ever said
> publicly.
>

It was made public.

What I can't figure out is why FCPD wanted to get a search warrant after they shot Greer. His cause of death was bleeding to death. He might have been saved if they went in and got him after he was shot.

They needed it so they could get inside to find the evidence they planted

yourname Wrote:
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> So.. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Maybe somebody can explain this to me. I have
> > followed this case off and on and even read
> some
> > of the documents released/posted to the
> internet
> > by the cops after they were ordered released by
> > the judge.
> >
> > I can not figure out what was in the IA file
> that
> > was so important that Morrogh had to have
> before
> > deciding if the shooting was bad or not. If you
> > look at the shooting alone, it looked bad and
> > should have been enough evidence to take to a
> > grand jury.
> >
> > So what was in the IA file? Nobody has ever
> said
> > publicly.
> >
>
> It was made public.
>
> What I can't figure out is why FCPD wanted to get
> a search warrant after they shot Greer. His cause
> of death was bleeding to death. He might have been
> saved if they went in and got him after he was
> shot.

I have never read anything in the paper of what was in the IA file that was keeping the commonwealth attorney from doing his job. I also did not find it yet in the 10,000 plus pages released. Since you know why don't you explain it here. The IA file had nothing to do with the shooting and was just an excuse.

why has no one been indicted for obstruction of justice? the chief's guilt is obvious.

where's WUSA on this?

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I'm John Q. Publilc and I demand an answer.

So.. Wrote:
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> yourname Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So.. Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Maybe somebody can explain this to me. I have
> > > followed this case off and on and even read
> > some
> > > of the documents released/posted to the
> > internet
> > > by the cops after they were ordered released
> by
> > > the judge.
> > >
> > > I can not figure out what was in the IA file
> > that
> > > was so important that Morrogh had to have
> > before
> > > deciding if the shooting was bad or not. If
> you
> > > look at the shooting alone, it looked bad and
> > > should have been enough evidence to take to a
> > > grand jury.
> > >
> > > So what was in the IA file? Nobody has ever
> > said
> > > publicly.
> > >
> >
> > It was made public.
> >
> > What I can't figure out is why FCPD wanted to
> get
> > a search warrant after they shot Greer. His
> cause
> > of death was bleeding to death. He might have
> been
> > saved if they went in and got him after he was
> > shot.
>
> I have never read anything in the paper of what
> was in the IA file that was keeping the
> commonwealth attorney from doing his job. I also
> did not find it yet in the 10,000 plus pages
> released. Since you know why don't you explain it
> here. The IA file had nothing to do with the
> shooting and was just an excuse.


I was talking about the documents that were released to the public....talks about how the swat team wanted to go in and get Greer and some major said no. Meanwhile, he bled to death...

Here's father was also on scene and demanded to go in to shove gauze into his son's wound.
Denied! If that's not accessory to manslaughter, the we must be speaking Chinese

I'm John Q. Public and I demand an answer Mr. US Attorney.

Estimated population of Fairfax County VA in 2014 was 1,081,726.

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The people of Fairfax County truly don't care if their police commit murder and their local government officials obstruct justice to cover it up. Robert E. Lee is surely rolling over in his grave. I guess the county has been completely taken over by yankee carpetbaggers brought here by a monsterous federal government. Damn you Abe Lincoln.

Oh well. I guess the citizens of Fairfax County are all part of the obstruction and deserve whatever consequences result.

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Never gonna let this go!

that's easy:

for you (non-gov citizen) NONE

for them (gov.) an edict is made from the bench immediately (judge jury and executioner) without a trial

that's Fairfax, hispanic/foreigner influenced court law (supposedly illegal in the US)

there, wasn't that easy?

Back to the top!

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Haven't seen this in a while..............

From the relative lack of public interest in the case, it's pretty clear there won't be any consequences for the officers present and in-the-know who aided in the obstruction of the federal attorney or Senator Grassely.

Gov't drones care a lot more about their smug sense of superiority and cushy jobs than truth and the law.

What is the status of any of this? Where is it? On whose desk? What is the next step we're waiting for? Who are the culprits needing to be prosecuted?

We're waiting for Fairfax residents to give a shit. They don't.
Status: The cops could kill your brother or uncle and you'll just have to take it.
Culprits: every cop on scene, lawyer on retainer, and government employee with knowledge of the incident for the first 18 months withheld evidence from the Commonwealth Attorney and the Feds. That's serious prison time for me and you.
Nothing will happen. Get over it and move on with your life, ... just don't trust the government, certainly not this one.

The major who wouldn't let swat go in needs to be fired. Greer might have lived if they went in after he was shot.

County officials should be indicted immediately.

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UCkhY

I guess the US Attorney needs all available resources to get Hillary?

Well Mr. US Attorney??

Voters want to know the answer to this question.

So what was in the IA file? Nobody has ever said publicly.

Haven't heard from this nice fella in a while:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/meet-us-attorney

Maybe he should be asked about this situation.

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Keep bumping.
As long as FFX residents keep their inflated salaries, the government can do as it pleases. No one is asking too many questions. No elected official lost a seat.
Expect no justice.

Where are the indictments for the Fairfax County Police Department officials who obstructed justice for over a year in this case?

Can we name who should be indicted?

Please explain how they obstructed justice?

Please give specific examples.

Lets have some fun.

pEkWw

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Just to let you know, citizen watchdogs haven't forgotten.

Citizen watchdogs ain't gonna do shit!
FCPD told Chuck Grassley and the US Attorney to go pound sand with zero consequences.
The cops who allowed Geer to bleed out stayed out of the papers. They drove a damn tank through Geer's front door in the middle of the day. No one knows their names.
Fairfax County taxpayers paid off the family, with no pain. It was all swept under the rug nicely. The County board all won their elections. Torres got a sweet-heart deal.
What the hell are you going to do? Do yourself a favor and don't mess with the police in this county.

garcia da murderer Wrote:
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> So Fairfax County has decided to throw civil
> libertarians a bone by indicting Garcia or
> whatever the sob's name is. Convicting him will be
> another issue.
>
> But when are the obstruction of justice
> indictments against all the county officials who
> assisted with the attempted coverup? Huh?

they're under your obstruction manual. dig deeper. lift your arm off it an look under it.

thanks for reminding me.

did you know the State of VA law library has a manual to train gov employees to obstruct justice upon anyone bringing a suit against the $$$$ of the gov ? obstructing, tampering, and skippign court - anything trick possible to fuck over a citizen who probably deserves a relief of some kind.

the manual clearly says many time "protecting the purse of employee pensions"

they're evil mother fuckers aren't they?

the book? forget the title have it written somewhere. IT WAS WRITTEN IN cALIFORNIA BY GOV WORKERS - and purchased by VA for their law library

I didn't know this, but I'm not surprised.

I used to work in a government research library. One of the very popular titles was "How To Lie With Statistics."

I think everyone in government has to know how to lie as a condition of employment, but that doesn't mean they can't learn to lie better!