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Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 30, 2015 03:38PM
I'm enjoying the single life in Fairfax county. I go to sporting events, concerts, hiking, dating and happy hours at fine restaurants. I have a jet ski, boat and a nice car. If I want to go away for a weekend in the Bahamas a I go.
Why is it every mini-van soccer mom and little league dad in Fairfax county tells me I need to join in their pathetic life?
I don't want to spend my "great years" running around at little kids sports games and finger paints finals. I also don't want to be tied down to sleeping with the same woman the rest of my life.
Why is it every mini-van soccer mom and little league dad in Fairfax county tells me I need to join in their pathetic life?
I don't want to spend my "great years" running around at little kids sports games and finger paints finals. I also don't want to be tied down to sleeping with the same woman the rest of my life.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 30, 2015 04:39PM
Because misery loves company. Same reason people locked into a religious/moral viewpoint that denies them premarital sex want to ban abortions and contraception. Because they can't have fun, they think nobody should have fun.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 30, 2015 04:46PM
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/jul/25/marriage-young-europeans-austerity
Marriage rates have fallen dramatically in most major European countries over the past decade, as austerity, generational crisis and apathy towards the institution deter record numbers of young people from tying the knot.
The number of weddings has fallen to historical lows in France and Spain and has tumbled in other Catholic countries such as Italy, Ireland, Poland and Portugal, according to national and European data. But people have also fallen out of love with marriage in countries as varied as Greece, Denmark, Hungary, the Netherlands and Britain. Only in parts of Scandinavia, the Baltic republics and Germany is the institution retaining its allure.
In Italy there were fewer than 200,000 marriages last year, the lowest number since the first world war. Numbers have fallen by 24% in the past decade and halved since 1965. Preliminary data indicated that the rate of marriages in Italy last year was 3.3 per 1,000 citizens, said Istat (Italy's National Institute of Statistics), compared with 4.6 in 2003. It was, it said, "the lowest in modern history".
"The fall has been very significant and beyond all expectation," said the institute's chairman, Antonio Golini. "There are cultural and economic causes for this phenomenon," he said. "The cultural causes are that marriage has become less important from a religious and civil point of view, because many young people live together without marrying.
"But there are also economic causes because marriage means having a celebration and often this celebration is big and costs a lot. So in a time of crisis like this, people live together in an [unmarried] cohabitation."
Economic crisis not only means people wanting to save money on a party. A study this year found that almost half of people aged 18-30 in Europe still live with their parents, prevented from flying the nest by a lack of jobs, large debts and rising property costs. Experts say this perfect storm of factors is also hitting birth rates.
"The lack of stable jobs and absence of credit have become disincentives to forming a family," said Teresa Castro-Martin, professor of research in the department of population studies at the CSIC, a government research institute in Spain. The average age of newlyweds in Spain is now 37.2 years for men – almost 10 years higher than it was in the 1980s. "Marriage has traditionally been a rite of passage to adulthood but it has lost its centrality," said Castro-Martin.
In France the downward trend in marriages has been partly affected by the rise of civil partnership contracts. In 2013 for every three marriages there were two civil partnerships, known as PACS (pacte civil de solidarité), which were introduced in 1999.
Magali Mazuy, a demographer at the French National Institute of Demographic Studies, said the dip in the number of marriages could in part be attributed to the popularity of the PACS, but also noted that "only a fraction of pacsés [people with PACS] subsequently get married". She saw marriage as "a hard core of people attached to traditional values, or who choose it for what it symbolises: the notion of couplehood, commitment and faithfulness." But she also said that marriage was seen as "protecting" the spouse or children in case of death, whereas the PACS provided less protection.
Declining marriage rates in Greece – though exacerbated by the country's debt crisis – have been a fact of life for the past decade, sociologists say. Changing lifestyles and behavioural patterns as much as economic pressures have been at the root of the fall. More than 60% of Greek youth are unemployed – the highest in the EU.
"The tendency started way before the crisis struck and is as much about changing values as the financial difficulties that young people now face," said Aliki Mouriki, at the National Centre for Social Research. "As so many have difficult access to a decently paid job without long hours of unpaid overtime, they're not keen to commit themselves to the obligations of wedlock and do so, if and when, pregnancy occurs."
The realisation that they won't be able to provide – combined with a reluctance to give up what Mouriki calls "their bohemian, uncommitted way of life" – has meant that many young Greeks are simply postponing exchanging vows.
The decline is not limited to "old Europe". Last year the number of weddings in Poland fell to its lowest since 1945 – the flip side of a society in which 43% of 25-34-year-olds still live with their parents. Witold Wrzesien, a sociologist, said young Poles today wanted "independence without responsibility. They want to be treated with the respect accorded to adults while staying under the safety of their parents' wings and not taking any risks. "
"In short, they want to eat their cake and have it."
However, the reasons for the drop in Polish marriages are not just economic. The number of children now born out of wedlock in Poland is at its highest level of 21%, suggesting significant shifts in social attitudes in a country which is 95% Roman Catholic and has up until now been considered one of Europe's most traditional societies.
Wedding refusers
Italy
Germana Chemi, 30, and Carmelo Cardea, 38, from the southern city of Reggio di Calabria, have been together for six years and living together for four. In the Italy of 40 years ago they would probably have been married with a brood of children.
"To a certain extent it's because of economic problems. Never having that economic solidity which enables you to pursue long-term projects, we've slightly been taking each day as it comes," said Chemi, who completed a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Pisa this year and is now back in Reggio di Calabria trying to qualify as a secondary school teacher.
The shop into which Cardea poured his time and energy was forced to close this month due to the harsh economic climate.
Despite the difficulties, the couple have managed to create a life together outside their family homes – which, especially in southern Italy, is not a given. "In the past, in order to leave home, you had to get married. Now that's no longer the case," said Chemi.
And, perhaps chiefly because neither is a practising Catholic, they do not feel particularly bothered about tying the knot. "We don't think about it much. It has never been a life goal," said Chemi. "We have focused on our own things, at the same time as being together, without having to spend a year planning a wedding."
France
Mélanie Henry, a 30-year-old tax adviser, met Pierre-Antoine Gendreau, 31, a maths teacher, 12 years ago and they have a one-year-old child, Gaspard. They live together in the eastern Paris suburb of Le Perreux-sur-Marne.
They have not married because "we never really felt like it", although the couple have "got nothing against marriage as an institution", said Henry.
She said they had seen married couples around them break up. Gendreau said "the real commitment for us was to have children".
Four years ago they signed a PACS (pacte civil de solidarité) contract, or civil partnership. "I know it doesn't sound very romantic but we did it for tax reasons," said Mélanie.Henry. "Pierre was working as a chiropractor and I was earning more at the time, so it made sense to pool our resources rather than be taxed as single people, which was costing us more."
Spain
Xavi Piera, 38, & and Judit Paje, 40, have two-year-old twins. "We are opposed on principle to the establishment and patriarchal values that marriage symbolises," said Paje. They also have seen friends marry young and almost all of them are divorced.
"I'm aware that by not being married, although I'm registered as the children's father, if we separated I would have no rights regarding them," said Piera. "Fathers don't count for anything in this country."
He would have rights if they registered as a pareja de hecho (de facto couple), which confers more or less the same economic and parental rights as marriage, but "we reject the state having any role in our relationship. A lot of our friends feel the same way," he said.
Poland
Szymon Krawczyk, 27, and Alicja Pawlicka, 26, have been a couple for three years. Krawczyk is a sales specialist, while Alicja edits books. They say they are "very much in love".
Both of them still live with their parents, as do 43% of Poles aged 25-34. They cannot afford to get married as they are both on small salaries and are on temporary work contracts, which give them no chance of getting a mortgage.
Pawlicka said if they got married and moved into a rented flat and then one of them was to lose their job, they would look pretty silly going back to knock on their parents' door. "Better to play it safe for now," said Krawczyk.
Greece
Thodoros Karkas and Katerina Kontodimos are typical of Greece's 20-something generation. In an ideal world, where money was no obstacle they might have considered marriage, but hooking up under circumstances of near penury is simply not an option. "We could have thought about it more but it's not in our near future plans," said Karkas of the four-year relationship. And as for children, "the money we earn is not enough even for us," he said. "How on earth could we do that?"
A qualified sound engineer and music technology specialist, the 26-year-old met Kontodimos in 2010 when she was a student of interior architecture. Eighteen months later – at the height of Greece's economic crisis – they moved in together, sharing a flat in central Athens. In that respect they were different to most of their friends who were forced to live with their parents to survive.
"Flat-sharing makes the relationship more serious," said Kontodimos, who turned 21 recently. "Some day I would love to have children. When you have children it must feel like you're being reborn in some way."
But it's been an uphill struggle, eking out a living in part-time jobs, waiting on tables and working in bars.
"Our rent is €250 a month [£200] and, all told, we earn about €800 a month when we need about €1,000 to get by," said Karkas, admitting that they often had to seek help from their families to make ends meet.
"It's hard and it's not what we wanted but we live in hope that the future will give us more opportunities to make our dreams come true."
Marriage rates have fallen dramatically in most major European countries over the past decade, as austerity, generational crisis and apathy towards the institution deter record numbers of young people from tying the knot.
The number of weddings has fallen to historical lows in France and Spain and has tumbled in other Catholic countries such as Italy, Ireland, Poland and Portugal, according to national and European data. But people have also fallen out of love with marriage in countries as varied as Greece, Denmark, Hungary, the Netherlands and Britain. Only in parts of Scandinavia, the Baltic republics and Germany is the institution retaining its allure.
In Italy there were fewer than 200,000 marriages last year, the lowest number since the first world war. Numbers have fallen by 24% in the past decade and halved since 1965. Preliminary data indicated that the rate of marriages in Italy last year was 3.3 per 1,000 citizens, said Istat (Italy's National Institute of Statistics), compared with 4.6 in 2003. It was, it said, "the lowest in modern history".
"The fall has been very significant and beyond all expectation," said the institute's chairman, Antonio Golini. "There are cultural and economic causes for this phenomenon," he said. "The cultural causes are that marriage has become less important from a religious and civil point of view, because many young people live together without marrying.
"But there are also economic causes because marriage means having a celebration and often this celebration is big and costs a lot. So in a time of crisis like this, people live together in an [unmarried] cohabitation."
Economic crisis not only means people wanting to save money on a party. A study this year found that almost half of people aged 18-30 in Europe still live with their parents, prevented from flying the nest by a lack of jobs, large debts and rising property costs. Experts say this perfect storm of factors is also hitting birth rates.
"The lack of stable jobs and absence of credit have become disincentives to forming a family," said Teresa Castro-Martin, professor of research in the department of population studies at the CSIC, a government research institute in Spain. The average age of newlyweds in Spain is now 37.2 years for men – almost 10 years higher than it was in the 1980s. "Marriage has traditionally been a rite of passage to adulthood but it has lost its centrality," said Castro-Martin.
In France the downward trend in marriages has been partly affected by the rise of civil partnership contracts. In 2013 for every three marriages there were two civil partnerships, known as PACS (pacte civil de solidarité), which were introduced in 1999.
Magali Mazuy, a demographer at the French National Institute of Demographic Studies, said the dip in the number of marriages could in part be attributed to the popularity of the PACS, but also noted that "only a fraction of pacsés [people with PACS] subsequently get married". She saw marriage as "a hard core of people attached to traditional values, or who choose it for what it symbolises: the notion of couplehood, commitment and faithfulness." But she also said that marriage was seen as "protecting" the spouse or children in case of death, whereas the PACS provided less protection.
Declining marriage rates in Greece – though exacerbated by the country's debt crisis – have been a fact of life for the past decade, sociologists say. Changing lifestyles and behavioural patterns as much as economic pressures have been at the root of the fall. More than 60% of Greek youth are unemployed – the highest in the EU.
"The tendency started way before the crisis struck and is as much about changing values as the financial difficulties that young people now face," said Aliki Mouriki, at the National Centre for Social Research. "As so many have difficult access to a decently paid job without long hours of unpaid overtime, they're not keen to commit themselves to the obligations of wedlock and do so, if and when, pregnancy occurs."
The realisation that they won't be able to provide – combined with a reluctance to give up what Mouriki calls "their bohemian, uncommitted way of life" – has meant that many young Greeks are simply postponing exchanging vows.
The decline is not limited to "old Europe". Last year the number of weddings in Poland fell to its lowest since 1945 – the flip side of a society in which 43% of 25-34-year-olds still live with their parents. Witold Wrzesien, a sociologist, said young Poles today wanted "independence without responsibility. They want to be treated with the respect accorded to adults while staying under the safety of their parents' wings and not taking any risks. "
"In short, they want to eat their cake and have it."
However, the reasons for the drop in Polish marriages are not just economic. The number of children now born out of wedlock in Poland is at its highest level of 21%, suggesting significant shifts in social attitudes in a country which is 95% Roman Catholic and has up until now been considered one of Europe's most traditional societies.
Wedding refusers
Italy
Germana Chemi, 30, and Carmelo Cardea, 38, from the southern city of Reggio di Calabria, have been together for six years and living together for four. In the Italy of 40 years ago they would probably have been married with a brood of children.
"To a certain extent it's because of economic problems. Never having that economic solidity which enables you to pursue long-term projects, we've slightly been taking each day as it comes," said Chemi, who completed a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Pisa this year and is now back in Reggio di Calabria trying to qualify as a secondary school teacher.
The shop into which Cardea poured his time and energy was forced to close this month due to the harsh economic climate.
Despite the difficulties, the couple have managed to create a life together outside their family homes – which, especially in southern Italy, is not a given. "In the past, in order to leave home, you had to get married. Now that's no longer the case," said Chemi.
And, perhaps chiefly because neither is a practising Catholic, they do not feel particularly bothered about tying the knot. "We don't think about it much. It has never been a life goal," said Chemi. "We have focused on our own things, at the same time as being together, without having to spend a year planning a wedding."
France
Mélanie Henry, a 30-year-old tax adviser, met Pierre-Antoine Gendreau, 31, a maths teacher, 12 years ago and they have a one-year-old child, Gaspard. They live together in the eastern Paris suburb of Le Perreux-sur-Marne.
They have not married because "we never really felt like it", although the couple have "got nothing against marriage as an institution", said Henry.
She said they had seen married couples around them break up. Gendreau said "the real commitment for us was to have children".
Four years ago they signed a PACS (pacte civil de solidarité) contract, or civil partnership. "I know it doesn't sound very romantic but we did it for tax reasons," said Mélanie.Henry. "Pierre was working as a chiropractor and I was earning more at the time, so it made sense to pool our resources rather than be taxed as single people, which was costing us more."
Spain
Xavi Piera, 38, & and Judit Paje, 40, have two-year-old twins. "We are opposed on principle to the establishment and patriarchal values that marriage symbolises," said Paje. They also have seen friends marry young and almost all of them are divorced.
"I'm aware that by not being married, although I'm registered as the children's father, if we separated I would have no rights regarding them," said Piera. "Fathers don't count for anything in this country."
He would have rights if they registered as a pareja de hecho (de facto couple), which confers more or less the same economic and parental rights as marriage, but "we reject the state having any role in our relationship. A lot of our friends feel the same way," he said.
Poland
Szymon Krawczyk, 27, and Alicja Pawlicka, 26, have been a couple for three years. Krawczyk is a sales specialist, while Alicja edits books. They say they are "very much in love".
Both of them still live with their parents, as do 43% of Poles aged 25-34. They cannot afford to get married as they are both on small salaries and are on temporary work contracts, which give them no chance of getting a mortgage.
Pawlicka said if they got married and moved into a rented flat and then one of them was to lose their job, they would look pretty silly going back to knock on their parents' door. "Better to play it safe for now," said Krawczyk.
Greece
Thodoros Karkas and Katerina Kontodimos are typical of Greece's 20-something generation. In an ideal world, where money was no obstacle they might have considered marriage, but hooking up under circumstances of near penury is simply not an option. "We could have thought about it more but it's not in our near future plans," said Karkas of the four-year relationship. And as for children, "the money we earn is not enough even for us," he said. "How on earth could we do that?"
A qualified sound engineer and music technology specialist, the 26-year-old met Kontodimos in 2010 when she was a student of interior architecture. Eighteen months later – at the height of Greece's economic crisis – they moved in together, sharing a flat in central Athens. In that respect they were different to most of their friends who were forced to live with their parents to survive.
"Flat-sharing makes the relationship more serious," said Kontodimos, who turned 21 recently. "Some day I would love to have children. When you have children it must feel like you're being reborn in some way."
But it's been an uphill struggle, eking out a living in part-time jobs, waiting on tables and working in bars.
"Our rent is €250 a month [£200] and, all told, we earn about €800 a month when we need about €1,000 to get by," said Karkas, admitting that they often had to seek help from their families to make ends meet.
"It's hard and it's not what we wanted but we live in hope that the future will give us more opportunities to make our dreams come true."
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 30, 2015 05:36PM
TL;DR
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 30, 2015 06:31PM
...then don't. You articulate your feelings on the subject well. You don't want to and are happy with the alternative.
so...don't
what's the point of posting it here? No one is going to say you should or shouldn't.
"hey everyone, I'm really happy doing this thing over here... hey everyone... HEY! look at me over here doing the thing that I'm happy about..."
"cool dude, go ahead"
so...don't
what's the point of posting it here? No one is going to say you should or shouldn't.
"hey everyone, I'm really happy doing this thing over here... hey everyone... HEY! look at me over here doing the thing that I'm happy about..."
"cool dude, go ahead"
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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It's an unmeasurable trade
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Date: August 30, 2015 10:52PM
I remember taking Caribbean vacations regularly, playing video games on my xBox, going to sporting events, and all the fun stuff a single person can do when they aren't supporting family. Sometimes, I miss that.
That said, watching a football game with my two-year old on my lap is priceless. And I wouldn't trade his existence for an alternate time stream where I stayed single. Frankly, even the idea of him never being born saddens and terrifies me.
Some people don't want kids or can't have them. I can respect that. But don't be too mad at people who think you'd be happier settled down. They simply have experienced happiness on their terms, and feel that for some reason, their terms equals your terms.
That said, watching a football game with my two-year old on my lap is priceless. And I wouldn't trade his existence for an alternate time stream where I stayed single. Frankly, even the idea of him never being born saddens and terrifies me.
Some people don't want kids or can't have them. I can respect that. But don't be too mad at people who think you'd be happier settled down. They simply have experienced happiness on their terms, and feel that for some reason, their terms equals your terms.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 31, 2015 01:26AM
It's an unmeasurable trade Wrote:
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> I remember taking Caribbean vacations regularly,
> playing video games on my xBox, going to sporting
> events, and all the fun stuff a single person can
> do when they aren't supporting family. Sometimes,
> I miss that.
>
> That said, watching a football game with my
> two-year old on my lap is priceless. And I
> wouldn't trade his existence for an alternate time
> stream where I stayed single. Frankly, even the
> idea of him never being born saddens and terrifies
> me.
>
> Some people don't want kids or can't have them. I
> can respect that. But don't be too mad at people
> who think you'd be happier settled down. They
> simply have experienced happiness on their terms,
> and feel that for some reason, their terms equals
> your terms.
This guy has it about right. I had many trips, sporting events, and was out drinking with friends at least once a week if not more. None of it even comes close to how much I love playing legos or reading on the floor with my 2 year old. He is the best thing I have ever done and I would rather spend a night at home holding him then any trip to the beach.
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> I remember taking Caribbean vacations regularly,
> playing video games on my xBox, going to sporting
> events, and all the fun stuff a single person can
> do when they aren't supporting family. Sometimes,
> I miss that.
>
> That said, watching a football game with my
> two-year old on my lap is priceless. And I
> wouldn't trade his existence for an alternate time
> stream where I stayed single. Frankly, even the
> idea of him never being born saddens and terrifies
> me.
>
> Some people don't want kids or can't have them. I
> can respect that. But don't be too mad at people
> who think you'd be happier settled down. They
> simply have experienced happiness on their terms,
> and feel that for some reason, their terms equals
> your terms.
This guy has it about right. I had many trips, sporting events, and was out drinking with friends at least once a week if not more. None of it even comes close to how much I love playing legos or reading on the floor with my 2 year old. He is the best thing I have ever done and I would rather spend a night at home holding him then any trip to the beach.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 31, 2015 01:52AM
Thanks for the view points. Makes a little more sense to me now.
Valid points about watching a kid grow up. Not my idea of fun however. A royal pain in the ass to me. Sorry, sounds cold, but kids just a ball and chain to me.
I've had girlfriends with kids and done the "instant dad" thing. In one case I actually enjoyed hanging out the girls kid more then her but overall no thank you. I swear these girls coach their kids one what to say or ask me. I once had this 5 year sneak away from his mom, find in me the corner of a BBQ and grab me saying "Come hang out with my mom please." That was cute.
Hanging out with my nieces and nephews every now and then is good enough for me. I can be the cool uncle then the kids can then go back to my brothers and they can run them around all day, clean up after them and deal with all their headaches.
Mean while I'll be in the Bahamas or cruise on the beach with a hot bikini girl I just met watching the sun go down deciding if I want to go partying or ditch the girl and find something else new.
Valid points about watching a kid grow up. Not my idea of fun however. A royal pain in the ass to me. Sorry, sounds cold, but kids just a ball and chain to me.
I've had girlfriends with kids and done the "instant dad" thing. In one case I actually enjoyed hanging out the girls kid more then her but overall no thank you. I swear these girls coach their kids one what to say or ask me. I once had this 5 year sneak away from his mom, find in me the corner of a BBQ and grab me saying "Come hang out with my mom please." That was cute.
Hanging out with my nieces and nephews every now and then is good enough for me. I can be the cool uncle then the kids can then go back to my brothers and they can run them around all day, clean up after them and deal with all their headaches.
Mean while I'll be in the Bahamas or cruise on the beach with a hot bikini girl I just met watching the sun go down deciding if I want to go partying or ditch the girl and find something else new.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Date: August 31, 2015 02:11AM
I'm young, married, have a nice house, fun car, lots of sex, no kids yet but not too far away. I'm enjoying my life quite a bit, but I have always wanted this. Some people just don't want it. It's not some sort of defect if someone likes the single life and what it offers. Not everyone is meant to be the same way.
I've seen the pressure people put on single men and women. Why aren't you in a "meaningful relationship"? When are you "settling down"? When are you going to get married and father some kids to justify your existence? It's stupid. If someone wants to live the bachelor or bachelorette life forever, then I'm happy for them as long as they're happy, and extra happy that they aren't skewing marriage and raising children by forced participation.
50% of marriages end in divorce. What percentage of marriages involve people who, without external pressure from friends and family would never have wanted to get married in the first place? How many kids are born to parents who aren't really into having them, but feel that they should because its the thing that's expected of them?
Soccer moms and dads shouldn't be preaching or recruiting. If you want to be married and have kids, you won't need anybody to push you into it. If you don't want to be married and have kids, I imagine that it is just as obnoxious to hear people wondering why you aren't enjoying the fulfilling life of having kids and a spouse, as it is to hear single people pretend that you must be secretly unhappy and wish you were single again.
I've seen the pressure people put on single men and women. Why aren't you in a "meaningful relationship"? When are you "settling down"? When are you going to get married and father some kids to justify your existence? It's stupid. If someone wants to live the bachelor or bachelorette life forever, then I'm happy for them as long as they're happy, and extra happy that they aren't skewing marriage and raising children by forced participation.
50% of marriages end in divorce. What percentage of marriages involve people who, without external pressure from friends and family would never have wanted to get married in the first place? How many kids are born to parents who aren't really into having them, but feel that they should because its the thing that's expected of them?
Soccer moms and dads shouldn't be preaching or recruiting. If you want to be married and have kids, you won't need anybody to push you into it. If you don't want to be married and have kids, I imagine that it is just as obnoxious to hear people wondering why you aren't enjoying the fulfilling life of having kids and a spouse, as it is to hear single people pretend that you must be secretly unhappy and wish you were single again.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Yup..
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Date: August 31, 2015 09:00AM
Both of the last posters have valid points.
If you do not want kids then please do not have them. Most people who do not want kids but have them anyways end up being shit parents. They end up screwing up the kid and then the rest of us have to deal with it.
However, before I had my kid, did not care for kids. I did not want to play with my friends kids while at BBQs, would not date women if they had a kid, found them a pain when I was out and the some kid was screaming.
Once I was ready for my own, that was the change. He is mine. He is amazing.
If you do not want kids then please do not have them. Most people who do not want kids but have them anyways end up being shit parents. They end up screwing up the kid and then the rest of us have to deal with it.
However, before I had my kid, did not care for kids. I did not want to play with my friends kids while at BBQs, would not date women if they had a kid, found them a pain when I was out and the some kid was screaming.
Once I was ready for my own, that was the change. He is mine. He is amazing.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
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Kimmy S
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Date: August 31, 2015 09:44AM
FFX county does breed a lot of asshole parents who divorce and use the kids as leverage to screw over an ex. Shameful! We wonder why so many kids end up doing heroin in this county?
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
You're not wrong
()
Date: August 31, 2015 10:18AM
Stop It! Wrote:
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> A royal pain in the ass to me. Sorry, sounds cold, but kids just a ball and chain to me.
I would say there is no need to offer apology for this, nor consider it cold. Kids ARE a royal pain in the ass, and they can completely obliterate you're social life(especially if you're one who tries to maintain social order, I'm generally terrified of restaurants now).
That said, I wouldn't trade it for anything. She's awesome. We'll be walking through a store with her in the cart, and she'll just belt out "HUGS?!?" and stretch her arms out with a big grin. It kills me, instant day improver and karmic balancer.
It's not for everyone of course, and anyone pressuring you into it is probably miserable as fuck and just looking for playmates for play dates. It'll come or it won't. As the old adage goes, you only get so many trips around the sun, try to enjoy it regardless
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> A royal pain in the ass to me. Sorry, sounds cold, but kids just a ball and chain to me.
I would say there is no need to offer apology for this, nor consider it cold. Kids ARE a royal pain in the ass, and they can completely obliterate you're social life(especially if you're one who tries to maintain social order, I'm generally terrified of restaurants now).
That said, I wouldn't trade it for anything. She's awesome. We'll be walking through a store with her in the cart, and she'll just belt out "HUGS?!?" and stretch her arms out with a big grin. It kills me, instant day improver and karmic balancer.
It's not for everyone of course, and anyone pressuring you into it is probably miserable as fuck and just looking for playmates for play dates. It'll come or it won't. As the old adage goes, you only get so many trips around the sun, try to enjoy it regardless
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
domestic vocation
()
Date: August 31, 2015 10:50AM
Your married friends are bores - probably like your single friends.
Im married and have kids and have lots of friends that are single and/or dont have kids. I keep my mouth shut when it comes to their choices. If it comes up Im glad to share the upsides and downsides of my choices but I always offer the fact that I know lots of happy people that made decisions much different than my own.
Truth is being married and especially being a parent is a serious J-O-B. I dont urge people to enter my chosen profession any more than I would urge them to sign up for my domestic vocation(s).
Im married and have kids and have lots of friends that are single and/or dont have kids. I keep my mouth shut when it comes to their choices. If it comes up Im glad to share the upsides and downsides of my choices but I always offer the fact that I know lots of happy people that made decisions much different than my own.
Truth is being married and especially being a parent is a serious J-O-B. I dont urge people to enter my chosen profession any more than I would urge them to sign up for my domestic vocation(s).
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
XyJPL
()
Date: August 31, 2015 11:08AM
You do realize that raising the next generation of children is a duty of any successful society? Although you don't seem to realize it a country such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had kids and raised them well.
If you don’t want to have kids then by all means don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid beyond measure to belittle the folks who are providing the means for a civilized society to continue.
I thought the same as you until I was 30. I was married but didn’t want to have any children. But we decided to give it a go and it has been a wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to adulthood has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
If you don’t want to have kids then by all means don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid beyond measure to belittle the folks who are providing the means for a civilized society to continue.
I thought the same as you until I was 30. I was married but didn’t want to have any children. But we decided to give it a go and it has been a wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to adulthood has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
da_kids
()
Date: August 31, 2015 11:27AM
Who cares what people think, do what you want.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Divorced and Happy Man
()
Date: August 31, 2015 11:29AM
XyJPL Wrote:
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> You do realize that raising the next generation of
> children is a duty of any successful society?
> Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> kids and raised them well.
>
> If you don’t want to have kids then by all means
> don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> providing the means for a civilized society to
> continue.
>
> I thought the same as you until I was 30. I was
> married but didn’t want to have any children.
> But we decided to give it a go and it has been a
> wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to adulthood
> has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a couple of years.
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> You do realize that raising the next generation of
> children is a duty of any successful society?
> Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> kids and raised them well.
>
> If you don’t want to have kids then by all means
> don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> providing the means for a civilized society to
> continue.
>
> I thought the same as you until I was 30. I was
> married but didn’t want to have any children.
> But we decided to give it a go and it has been a
> wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to adulthood
> has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a couple of years.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
XyJPL
()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:32PM
Divorced and Happy Man Wrote:
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> XyJPL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You do realize that raising the next generation
> of
> > children is a duty of any successful society?
> > Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> > kids and raised them well.
> >
> > If you don’t want to have kids then by all
> means
> > don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> > beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> > providing the means for a civilized society to
> > continue.
> >
> > I thought the same as you until I was 30. I
> was
> > married but didn’t want to have any children.
>
> > But we decided to give it a go and it has been
> a
> > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> adulthood
> > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
>
> ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a couple
> of years.
I sort of doubt it. We are considering becoming foster parents.
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> XyJPL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You do realize that raising the next generation
> of
> > children is a duty of any successful society?
> > Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> > kids and raised them well.
> >
> > If you don’t want to have kids then by all
> means
> > don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> > beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> > providing the means for a civilized society to
> > continue.
> >
> > I thought the same as you until I was 30. I
> was
> > married but didn’t want to have any children.
>
> > But we decided to give it a go and it has been
> a
> > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> adulthood
> > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
>
> ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a couple
> of years.
I sort of doubt it. We are considering becoming foster parents.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:41PM
Most who are (or were) married and/or have kids don't give a crap about getting you tied down. If there are people in your life who are trying to get you married and have kids, I can only think of three reasons:
First, they have single or divorced female friends who are looking for mates, and you are the male in their circle who is available and not totally repulsive. This isn't really about what they want for you. Rather it is what they want for their female friends.
Second, and least likely, they see you dropping one good female after another, assume it is because you have commitment issues, and fear that one day you are going to wake up miserable and alone.
Third, because you have chosen to go through life without a partner to assist you and to listen to your boring stories and complaints, you have been relying on them to fill in, and they are getting sick of it.
First, they have single or divorced female friends who are looking for mates, and you are the male in their circle who is available and not totally repulsive. This isn't really about what they want for you. Rather it is what they want for their female friends.
Second, and least likely, they see you dropping one good female after another, assume it is because you have commitment issues, and fear that one day you are going to wake up miserable and alone.
Third, because you have chosen to go through life without a partner to assist you and to listen to your boring stories and complaints, you have been relying on them to fill in, and they are getting sick of it.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
vmb64
()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:42PM
XyJPL Wrote:
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> Divorced and Happy Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > XyJPL Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You do realize that raising the next
> generation
> > of
> > > children is a duty of any successful society?
>
> > > Although you don't seem to realize it a
> country
> > > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE
> had
> > > kids and raised them well.
> > >
> > > If you don’t want to have kids then by all
> > means
> > > don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> > > beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> > > providing the means for a civilized society
> to
> > > continue.
> > >
> > > I thought the same as you until I was 30. I
> > was
> > > married but didn’t want to have any
> children.
> >
> > > But we decided to give it a go and it has
> been
> > a
> > > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> > adulthood
> > > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
> >
> > ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a
> couple
> > of years.
>
> I sort of doubt it. We are considering becoming
> foster parents.
This has all the makings of a good Reality Show. Please tell me you Mormons that home school too!
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> Divorced and Happy Man Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > XyJPL Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > You do realize that raising the next
> generation
> > of
> > > children is a duty of any successful society?
>
> > > Although you don't seem to realize it a
> country
> > > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE
> had
> > > kids and raised them well.
> > >
> > > If you don’t want to have kids then by all
> > means
> > > don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> > > beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> > > providing the means for a civilized society
> to
> > > continue.
> > >
> > > I thought the same as you until I was 30. I
> > was
> > > married but didn’t want to have any
> children.
> >
> > > But we decided to give it a go and it has
> been
> > a
> > > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> > adulthood
> > > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
> >
> > ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a
> couple
> > of years.
>
> I sort of doubt it. We are considering becoming
> foster parents.
This has all the makings of a good Reality Show. Please tell me you Mormons that home school too!
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
XyJPL
()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:54PM
vmb64 Wrote:
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> XyJPL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Divorced and Happy Man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > XyJPL Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You do realize that raising the next
> > generation
> > > of
> > > > children is a duty of any successful
> society?
> >
> > > > Although you don't seem to realize it a
> > country
> > > > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE
> > had
> > > > kids and raised them well.
> > > >
> > > > If you don’t want to have kids then by
> all
> > > means
> > > > don’t. But on the other hand, it is
> stupid
> > > > beyond measure to belittle the folks who
> are
> > > > providing the means for a civilized society
> > to
> > > > continue.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the same as you until I was 30.
> I
> > > was
> > > > married but didn’t want to have any
> > children.
> > >
> > > > But we decided to give it a go and it has
> > been
> > > a
> > > > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> > > adulthood
> > > > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
> > >
> > > ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a
> > couple
> > > of years.
> >
> > I sort of doubt it. We are considering
> becoming
> > foster parents.
>
> This has all the makings of a good Reality Show.
> Please tell me you Mormons that home school too!
WTF!? So anyone that actually raises kids and wants to give back to society is a Mormon!? What kind of an idiot makes such an assumption? But no, we do not home school and we are not Mormons. I doubt any Mormons frequent FFXU. School starts next week so get off FFXU and start those summer assignments.
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> XyJPL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Divorced and Happy Man Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > XyJPL Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > You do realize that raising the next
> > generation
> > > of
> > > > children is a duty of any successful
> society?
> >
> > > > Although you don't seem to realize it a
> > country
> > > > such as ours only functions because SOMEONE
> > had
> > > > kids and raised them well.
> > > >
> > > > If you don’t want to have kids then by
> all
> > > means
> > > > don’t. But on the other hand, it is
> stupid
> > > > beyond measure to belittle the folks who
> are
> > > > providing the means for a civilized society
> > to
> > > > continue.
> > > >
> > > > I thought the same as you until I was 30.
> I
> > > was
> > > > married but didn’t want to have any
> > children.
> > >
> > > > But we decided to give it a go and it has
> > been
> > > a
> > > > wonderful experience. Raising 2 kids to
> > > adulthood
> > > > has been a fascinating and rewarding task.
> > >
> > > ^This is a divorce in the making. Give it a
> > couple
> > > of years.
> >
> > I sort of doubt it. We are considering
> becoming
> > foster parents.
>
> This has all the makings of a good Reality Show.
> Please tell me you Mormons that home school too!
WTF!? So anyone that actually raises kids and wants to give back to society is a Mormon!? What kind of an idiot makes such an assumption? But no, we do not home school and we are not Mormons. I doubt any Mormons frequent FFXU. School starts next week so get off FFXU and start those summer assignments.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Enjoy Your Life
()
Date: August 31, 2015 12:56PM
Stop It! Wrote:
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> I'm enjoying the single life in Fairfax county. I
> go to sporting events, concerts, hiking, dating
> and happy hours at fine restaurants. I have a jet
> ski, boat and a nice car. If I want to go away
> for a weekend in the Bahamas a I go.
>
> Why is it every mini-van soccer mom and little
> league dad in Fairfax county tells me I need to
> join in their pathetic life?
>
> I don't want to spend my "great years" running
> around at little kids sports games and finger
> paints finals. I also don't want to be tied down
> to sleeping with the same woman the rest of my
> life.
Sounds like you don't want kids and that's great. Don't let your peers talk you into doing something you are not comfortable with. Some people are meant to have them and some people aren't' and kudos to you for standing your ground. Enjoy your single life and prosperity. Hats off to you sir.
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> I'm enjoying the single life in Fairfax county. I
> go to sporting events, concerts, hiking, dating
> and happy hours at fine restaurants. I have a jet
> ski, boat and a nice car. If I want to go away
> for a weekend in the Bahamas a I go.
>
> Why is it every mini-van soccer mom and little
> league dad in Fairfax county tells me I need to
> join in their pathetic life?
>
> I don't want to spend my "great years" running
> around at little kids sports games and finger
> paints finals. I also don't want to be tied down
> to sleeping with the same woman the rest of my
> life.
Sounds like you don't want kids and that's great. Don't let your peers talk you into doing something you are not comfortable with. Some people are meant to have them and some people aren't' and kudos to you for standing your ground. Enjoy your single life and prosperity. Hats off to you sir.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Mm4YU
()
Date: August 31, 2015 01:02PM
I'm married 30 something. Don't have kids yet. Will want some soon but gotttt dayuum my life is great right now. Loving wife, good job, healthy bank accounts yada yada yada... I'm gonna miss these days for sure.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Stop It!
()
Date: August 31, 2015 01:06PM
Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Most who are (or were) married and/or have kids
> don't give a crap about getting you tied down. If
> there are people in your life who are trying to
> get you married and have kids, I can only think of
> three reasons:
>
> First, they have single or divorced female friends
> who are looking for mates, and you are the male in
> their circle who is available and not totally
> repulsive. This isn't really about what they want
> for you. Rather it is what they want for their
> female friends.
>
> Second, and least likely, they see you dropping
> one good female after another, assume it is
> because you have commitment issues, and fear that
> one day you are going to wake up miserable and
> alone.
>
> Third, because you have chosen to go through life
> without a partner to assist you and to listen to
> your boring stories and complaints, you have been
> relying on them to fill in, and they are getting
> sick of it.
Response:
First- I've dated a couple of female friends of married couples friends. It was more of having horny sex than a good relationship. The women were crazy in bed and also had all sorts of qirks. I reasoned they were protecting themselves from a real relationship because of past bad relationships feelings.
Second - I do drop one female after another. Definitely have commitment issues. The grass is always greener type thing. lol Growing old alone sounds like heaven to me. Nothing better to me than to be free to do whatever I want with having to conference and compromise on everything.
Third - I don't have any complaints. Fill me in on what? I'm the person with the interesting travel, adventure and dating stories. Excitement for them is a kid scraping a bike on their minivan or the wrong pizza topping on pizza night.
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> Most who are (or were) married and/or have kids
> don't give a crap about getting you tied down. If
> there are people in your life who are trying to
> get you married and have kids, I can only think of
> three reasons:
>
> First, they have single or divorced female friends
> who are looking for mates, and you are the male in
> their circle who is available and not totally
> repulsive. This isn't really about what they want
> for you. Rather it is what they want for their
> female friends.
>
> Second, and least likely, they see you dropping
> one good female after another, assume it is
> because you have commitment issues, and fear that
> one day you are going to wake up miserable and
> alone.
>
> Third, because you have chosen to go through life
> without a partner to assist you and to listen to
> your boring stories and complaints, you have been
> relying on them to fill in, and they are getting
> sick of it.
Response:
First- I've dated a couple of female friends of married couples friends. It was more of having horny sex than a good relationship. The women were crazy in bed and also had all sorts of qirks. I reasoned they were protecting themselves from a real relationship because of past bad relationships feelings.
Second - I do drop one female after another. Definitely have commitment issues. The grass is always greener type thing. lol Growing old alone sounds like heaven to me. Nothing better to me than to be free to do whatever I want with having to conference and compromise on everything.
Third - I don't have any complaints. Fill me in on what? I'm the person with the interesting travel, adventure and dating stories. Excitement for them is a kid scraping a bike on their minivan or the wrong pizza topping on pizza night.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: August 31, 2015 01:28PM
You are the person with interesting travel, adventure and dating stories...TO YOU. Has it occurred to you that others feel the same way about your lifestyle as you feel about theirs? To some your fabulous lifestyle is the life they chose to leave, and have no regrets leaving.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
hearingitalldaylong
()
Date: August 31, 2015 01:56PM
Bill N. you are so right. I have a co-worker that is a life-long bachelor and bores me endlessly to tears for over 12 years with his dreadfully boring re-telling of his overseas trips-travel-conquest's (thinks he's the most interesting man in the world). I politely listen but did not give a damn after the first story. I humor him because he's getting old and appears to not have anyone to talk to. Funny about that - most of the co-workers that like to talk are the loners that have no one to talk to in the evenings. Thank goodness the other yakker finally got another girlfriend. The only people I ever hear putting pressure to settle down is the parents.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
horse races
()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:03PM
The flip side is that we married parental types have to put up with the single friends begging us to drop everything and join them on their meaningless trips they take with their oceans of time and money. Love and family are my wealth not time and money. I feel sorry for them sometimes as they think Im deprived because I cannot travel or buy $5,000 bicycles like they can. The older they get the more desperate for company they become.
Ive set my life up to be surrounded by love they have chosen time and $$$. That is what makes horse races I guess.
Ive set my life up to be surrounded by love they have chosen time and $$$. That is what makes horse races I guess.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
xkwEe
()
Date: August 31, 2015 02:19PM
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Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Stop It!
()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:00PM
horse races Wrote:
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> The flip side is that we married parental types
> have to put up with the single friends begging us
> to drop everything and join them on their
> meaningless trips they take with their oceans of
> time and money. Love and family are my wealth not
> time and money. I feel sorry for them sometimes
> as they think Im deprived because I cannot travel
> or buy $5,000 bicycles like they can. The older
> they get the more desperate for company they
> become.
>
> Ive set my life up to be surrounded by love they
> have chosen time and $$$.
I do often invite my friends to join me in the Bahamas, Cabo or on other adventures. Many cannot go because they can't get somebody to watch their kids. I have no problem with that. Many married couples do go and their a blast.
I'm not desperate for company. Perhaps the opposite. This is 2015, I can simple text other single friends to join me. At times I avoid texts to do stuff.
I know plenty of people who live the same single lifestyle, love to travel and hangout. They have always been single. I'm also constantly invited to joined friends on boats and weekend trips. Labor Day weekend I've already had offers to join people in OC, Outer Banks, South Beach and Cabo. Another offer to go jet skiing, a couple of beer and bourbon BBQ's. One even with some hot fitness models.
I will spend some time with my brother and his kids at a quick stop for a BBQ then off to funville.
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> The flip side is that we married parental types
> have to put up with the single friends begging us
> to drop everything and join them on their
> meaningless trips they take with their oceans of
> time and money. Love and family are my wealth not
> time and money. I feel sorry for them sometimes
> as they think Im deprived because I cannot travel
> or buy $5,000 bicycles like they can. The older
> they get the more desperate for company they
> become.
>
> Ive set my life up to be surrounded by love they
> have chosen time and $$$.
I do often invite my friends to join me in the Bahamas, Cabo or on other adventures. Many cannot go because they can't get somebody to watch their kids. I have no problem with that. Many married couples do go and their a blast.
I'm not desperate for company. Perhaps the opposite. This is 2015, I can simple text other single friends to join me. At times I avoid texts to do stuff.
I know plenty of people who live the same single lifestyle, love to travel and hangout. They have always been single. I'm also constantly invited to joined friends on boats and weekend trips. Labor Day weekend I've already had offers to join people in OC, Outer Banks, South Beach and Cabo. Another offer to go jet skiing, a couple of beer and bourbon BBQ's. One even with some hot fitness models.
I will spend some time with my brother and his kids at a quick stop for a BBQ then off to funville.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Participation Trophy Department
()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:00PM
How many Soccer Moms and Lax Dad's have their children's "Participation" trophy on the mantle at home?
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Divorced Dad has it both ways
()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:02PM
I lived that life of following my kids and their sports and been divorced for 5 years. It's the best of both worlds - weekend getaways with my hot European girlfriend one weekend and Dad time the other.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Stop It!
()
Date: August 31, 2015 03:14PM
Divorced Dad has it both ways Wrote:
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> I lived that life of following my kids and their
> sports and been divorced for 5 years. It's the
> best of both worlds - weekend getaways with my hot
> European girlfriend one weekend and Dad time the
> other.
One of the guys we party and travel with is that way. Great pilot, has place in Cabo. His wife has the kids during the school year and most weekends. Only problem is she's constantly trying to screw the guy over with all sorts of dirty tricks. She constantly has some lawsuit going on against him. Tries to control when he can talk or see a kid.
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> I lived that life of following my kids and their
> sports and been divorced for 5 years. It's the
> best of both worlds - weekend getaways with my hot
> European girlfriend one weekend and Dad time the
> other.
One of the guys we party and travel with is that way. Great pilot, has place in Cabo. His wife has the kids during the school year and most weekends. Only problem is she's constantly trying to screw the guy over with all sorts of dirty tricks. She constantly has some lawsuit going on against him. Tries to control when he can talk or see a kid.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Mike O'Meara Show Fan
()
Date: August 31, 2015 05:54PM
If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a douche. That test is 100% reliable.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Life's Ironies
()
Date: August 31, 2015 07:06PM
Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
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> If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a douche.
> That test is 100% reliable.
Only a douche would know this.
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> If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a douche.
> That test is 100% reliable.
Only a douche would know this.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Mike O'Meara Show
()
Date: August 31, 2015 07:35PM
Life's Ironies Wrote:
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> Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a
> douche.
> > That test is 100% reliable.
>
> Only a douche would know this.
Actually not true, only a douche wouldn't know it. But if we stick to your logic, it means you're a douche.
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> Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a
> douche.
> > That test is 100% reliable.
>
> Only a douche would know this.
Actually not true, only a douche wouldn't know it. But if we stick to your logic, it means you're a douche.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
4th Graders
()
Date: August 31, 2015 08:00PM
People still say "You're a douche?" I thought that went out of style about 10 years ago.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
fleabag
()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:39PM
Parenting is a long drag, but at least someone will look after you when you're an invalid. If you have a daughter, that is.
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
NoCrumbsnatchers
()
Date: September 01, 2015 09:54PM
XyJPL Wrote:
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> You do realize that raising the next generation of
> children is a duty of any successful society?
> Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> kids and raised them well.
>
> If you don’t want to have kids then by all means
> don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> providing the means for a civilized society to
> continue.
You do realize that that the OP isn't advoating zero population growth? Everyone doesn't need to reproduce for this country to survive. People without children also pay taxes that support schools, roads, etc. So get off your high horse thinking you are the savior of mankind because you squeezed out a pup or knocked someone up.
People with children belittle people without all the time. They say things like people who don't have children are selfish. Really? When I hear people say stuff like that, it seems to me that they are trying to convince themselves that they made the right choice having children.
And all those little fuckers aren't civilized!
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> You do realize that raising the next generation of
> children is a duty of any successful society?
> Although you don't seem to realize it a country
> such as ours only functions because SOMEONE had
> kids and raised them well.
>
> If you don’t want to have kids then by all means
> don’t. But on the other hand, it is stupid
> beyond measure to belittle the folks who are
> providing the means for a civilized society to
> continue.
You do realize that that the OP isn't advoating zero population growth? Everyone doesn't need to reproduce for this country to survive. People without children also pay taxes that support schools, roads, etc. So get off your high horse thinking you are the savior of mankind because you squeezed out a pup or knocked someone up.
People with children belittle people without all the time. They say things like people who don't have children are selfish. Really? When I hear people say stuff like that, it seems to me that they are trying to convince themselves that they made the right choice having children.
And all those little fuckers aren't civilized!
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
NotAFan
()
Date: September 01, 2015 09:58PM
Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
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> If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a douche.
> That test is 100% reliable.
LOL!
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> If you say "lol!" as the OP did, you are a douche.
> That test is 100% reliable.
LOL!
Re: Sick Of the Soccer Moms and Bitching Dads Telling Me I need to Join Their Miserable Life
Posted by:
Nah
()
Date: September 01, 2015 10:00PM
fleabag Wrote:
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> Parenting is a long drag, but at least someone
> will look after you when you're an invalid. If you
> have a daughter, that is.
I guess you haven't visited a nursing home in a while. Full of people who have children that never visit. They are just waiting for the old bag of bones to kick off.
Children aren't legally obligated to take care of parents.
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> Parenting is a long drag, but at least someone
> will look after you when you're an invalid. If you
> have a daughter, that is.
I guess you haven't visited a nursing home in a while. Full of people who have children that never visit. They are just waiting for the old bag of bones to kick off.
Children aren't legally obligated to take care of parents.