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Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: August 26, 2015 09:50PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/reporters-killed-on-air-alison-parker-adam-ward-terry-mcauliffe-response-121760.html

http://fusion.net/story/189168/virginia-shooting-governor-gun-control/


Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe called for tighter gun laws in response to the deadly shooting of two Roanoke, Virginia-based TV journalists during a live broadcast this morning in his state.

“There are too many guns in the hands of people that shouldn’t have guns,” McAuliffe said during an interview with WTOP. “There is too much gun violence in America,” he said, adding that he has long advocated for strengthening gun background checks and that it should be made a priority.


“I’ve proposed this now twice to the General Assembly,” McAuliffe said in response to a listener question on local radio station WTOP’s monthly “Ask the Governor” segment, which aired live shortly after the shootings ran on the topic. “It was part of my platform that we need tougher gun laws in the Commonwealth, I have advocated for background checks. Everyone who purchases a firearm in the commonwealth of Virginia should have to go through a background check.”

“I will continue to push [gun control] as I have in two legislative sessions so far,” McAuliffe added. “I put it up again last year. It never sees the light of day.”

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Reality of the situation ()
Date: August 26, 2015 09:53PM

The reality of the situation is that the shooter probably underwent and passed a background check as there is nothing in his past that would have precluded him from purchasing a firearm.

The governor is just trying to blow smoke

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: VA Gun Laws Suck ()
Date: August 26, 2015 09:55PM

It's about time. How many of these mentally ill people are we going to let purchase guns.

Didn't we learn anything from the VA Tech shooting?

Fucking McAuliffe is such a puss as a Gov. He needs to grow some balls and get stricter gun laws passed.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Constitution! ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:02PM

Don't judge all gun owners until the facts are out. Standing your ground and owning guns is not illegal! I disagree with this shooting but will defend our 2nd Amendment to it's core!!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Realityisabitch ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:05PM

The sad fact of the matter is the mental hygiene laws in the commonwealth are sorely lacking. Even after Creigh Deeds got stabbed by his nutbag kid, only a paltry few reforms were enacted. No one wants to pay for it. So we have "out patient" treatment which just shifts the costs of mental illness onto Social Security, Medicaid, Welfare and of course the criminal justice system.

Think about it, 90% of shootings involve people that showed clear signs that they were nuttier than squirrel turds but no one acted.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Hokie ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:08PM

The dude had mental issues.
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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Reality of the situation ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:08PM

VA Gun Laws Suck Wrote:
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> It's about time. How many of these mentally ill
> people are we going to let purchase guns.
>
> Didn't we learn anything from the VA Tech
> shooting?
>
> Fucking McAuliffe is such a puss as a Gov. He
> needs to grow some balls and get stricter gun laws
> passed.


The thing is, the guy passed a federal and Virginia state background check before buying the gun. What the governor is proposing would not have stopped this guy from buying a gun.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: #BanAngryNegroesNow ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:11PM

Unfortunately being an angry gay black libtard who buys into the race-baiting persecution propaganda doesn't disqualify you from buying a gun.

#thinkofthechildren

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Date: August 26, 2015 10:23PM

Piss on him, What the hell was in his head when he vetoed the CCW bill that would have withheld Md Cops from Va CCW Info to keep Virginias from being harassed even though they have no guns in Maryland? Passed by a huge majority in the Va General Assembly.. STFU McAuliffe on any gun issues. You have no credibility at all on that issue, and your just a lousy Democrat party parrot.

He's been on WTOP a lot lately , exclusive interviews huh, Like Today .. something stinks.. How much stake or stock has he got in there???

Shitty DAJ "Pissed Off Commit" LOL.

Gov.McAuliffe pay attention to what Virginians need with education, jobs, roads and transportation. I will admit you have been doing some good work in some of those areas. Better then I expected .And the next time round sign that CCW Md Cop bill. And lay off the parrot gun grabber party line game, Hillarys already toast by her own hand. You cant help her.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/26/2015 10:36PM by Double Action Jackson.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: CvUmD ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:40PM

On August 26 Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) spokesman Thomas Faison confirmed that Virginia gunman Vester Lee Flanagan bought his gun “weeks ago” and that “he apparently passed a background check” to get the gun.

The gun was a Glock 19 9mm.

According to ABC News, Faison said Flanagan bough the gun “legally.” And BuzzFeed reports that Faison said the ATF had recovered the weapon today...

Confirmation that Flanagan passed a background check means he joins numerous other attackers and alleged attackers who have passed background checks for their guns. These include John Russell Houser (Lafayette), Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez (Chattanooga), Dylann Roof (Charleston), Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi (Garland), Jared and Amanda Miller (Las Vegas), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barabara), Ivan Lopez (Fort Hood 2014), Darion Marcus Aguilar (Maryland mall), Karl Halverson Pierson (Arapahoe High School), Paul Ciancia (LAX), Andrew John Engeldinger (Minneapolis), Aaron Alexis (DC Navy Yard), Tennis Melvin Maynard (West Virginia), Wade Michael Page (Sikh Temple), James Holmes (Aurora theater), Jared Loughner (Tucson), Nidal Hasan (Fort Hood 2009), Jiverly Wong (Binghamton), Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Tech), Naveed Haq (Seattle), and Mark Barton (Atlanta).

The fact that Flanagan passed a background also calls into question Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe’s (D) call for background check legislation earlier today. He called for that legislation while the police pursuit of Flanagan was still underway.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: saiga-12 30 round drum ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:49PM

Guess people will just buy them illegally better to get caught with than without

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Reality of the situation ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:53PM

saiga-12 30 round drum Wrote:
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> Guess people will just buy them illegally better
> to get caught with than without


What?

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: MpGFh ()
Date: August 26, 2015 10:54PM

Duh!!! It means McAuliffe is correct. The system is broken is all these nutty people can get guns and kill people.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: saiga-12 30 round drum ()
Date: August 26, 2015 11:00PM

MpGFh Wrote:
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> Duh!!! It means McAuliffe is correct. The system
> is broken is all these nutty people can get guns
> and kill people.


You're right DING DING DING DING winner winner chicken dinner

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Reality of the situation ()
Date: August 26, 2015 11:04PM

saiga-12 30 round drum Wrote:
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> MpGFh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Duh!!! It means McAuliffe is correct. The
> system
> > is broken is all these nutty people can get
> guns
> > and kill people.
>
>
> You're right DING DING DING DING winner winner
> chicken dinner


What is a practical way the system can be fixed?

What the governor was proposing would not have stopped this guy.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Date: August 26, 2015 11:08PM

>The system is broken is all these nutty people can get a _____ and kill people

The "cat" who did it today was a big guy, you don't think he could not have used a blade?? A ball bat? A car? Gasoline and a match? IED ? Sawed off single shot shotgun? or a Double barrel borrowed from Joe..Wink. How about a WOW!Homemade "ZIP GUN" taken from a 1950's NY City PUNK! ! Fill in the blank stupid cupid! ..If your a girl, Stupid Cutie!!

You have a case of "Stupid Cupid Ideology" !! He ended up killing himself.. You think he cared! Be safe out there take care.. No Hard feelings,.. your sad, sickened and confused as many are tonight. So am I.
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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: WHY!!!??? ()
Date: August 26, 2015 11:24PM

saiga-12 30 round drum Wrote:
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> MpGFh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Duh!!! It means McAuliffe is correct. The
> system
> > is broken is all these nutty people can get
> guns
> > and kill people.
>
>
> You're right DING DING DING DING winner winner
> chicken dinner


Why won't Obama wave his magic negro wand and make all of the bad people and guns go away?

WHY!!!???

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: VxcD3 ()
Date: August 26, 2015 11:26PM

Between HIPAA and the fact that most of the nutbags have no real record of being diagnosed as mentally ill or admitted to some form of treatment program, what are you going to do?

Same holds true for sexual devients that have never been convicted of a sex related crime, they do not show up on any sort of registry or database.

What are you going to do?

Might as well vacation in Syria.

The guns are not the problem, as someone stated this wacko could have just used his rental car.

Where is the dudes family in this situaiton? They are likely the only ones that may have known there was a problem and could have possibly done something to help??

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: wow!!!! ()
Date: August 26, 2015 11:34PM

Can you buy a Saiga-12 with 30 rounds in Virginia?

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: tMk4M ()
Date: August 27, 2015 06:03AM

The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment. No one things there is a chance of repealing the 14th, but it would be so much easier to repeal the 2nd.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: nope nope nope ()
Date: August 27, 2015 06:31AM

tMk4M Wrote:
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> The answer is simple.

No, it isn't.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: ikbswisi ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:05AM

tMk4M Wrote:
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> The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
> No one things there is a chance of repealing the
> 14th, but it would be so much easier to repeal the
> 2nd.

Bullshit.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Gun Control ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:25AM

After Chicago banned guns, it became the safest and most peaceful city in the country. NOT! You fucking gun grabbers are the biggest liars on the planet!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: GUNS = DEATH & MAYHEM ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:32AM

tMk4M Wrote:
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> The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
> No one things there is a chance of repealing the
> 14th, but it would be so much easier to repeal the
> 2nd.

Exactly. If the gun nuts and stooges will not submit to reasonable controls and regulations, then the Second Amendment needs to be taken out of the equation. There is no reason at all for society to continue tolerating this sort of carnage.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: problem solved ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:24AM

GUNS = DEATH & MAYHEM Wrote:
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> tMk4M Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
>
> > No one things there is a chance of repealing
> the
> > 14th, but it would be so much easier to repeal
> the
> > 2nd.
>
> Exactly. If the gun nuts and stooges will not
> submit to reasonable controls and regulations,
> then the Second Amendment needs to be taken out of
> the equation. There is no reason at all for
> society to continue tolerating this sort of
> carnage.

Drugs are illegal and theirs no drugs in America now. Make guns illegal they will all disappear just like illegal drugs.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: McAuliffeIsACockSucker ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:49AM

I support some kind of change, but that ends as soon as I realize a liberal piece of shit like McAuliffe is pushing it.

Fuck liberals.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Nooo ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:23PM

wow!!!! Wrote:
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> Can you buy a Saiga-12 with 30 rounds in Virginia?


No

High capacity shotguns are prohibited in the commonwealth

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: ExcuseMeBut... ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:32PM

Nooo Wrote:
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> wow!!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can you buy a Saiga-12 with 30 rounds in
> Virginia?
>
>
> No
>
> High capacity shotguns are prohibited in the
> commonwealth

Have you read the law much or do you think everybody lives in Fairfax?

§ 18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty.

It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a loaded (a) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (b) shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, sidewalk, public right-of-way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public in the Cities of Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach or in the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William.

The provisions of this section shall not apply to law-enforcement officers, licensed security guards, military personnel in the performance of their lawful duties, or any person having a valid concealed handgun permit or to any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or lawful recreational shooting activities at an established shooting range or shooting contest. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.

The exemptions set forth in § 18.2-308 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the provisions of this section.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: yes we can ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:36PM

Nooo Wrote:
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> wow!!!! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Can you buy a Saiga-12 with 30 rounds in
> Virginia?
>
>
> No
>
> High capacity shotguns are prohibited in the
> commonwealth

You're wrong just can't hunt with one ask Obama

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: And ()
Date: August 27, 2015 07:42PM

AR-15 has a nice 60 round mag my favorite

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: I am right ()
Date: August 27, 2015 08:51PM

NO, I am correct, a "Saiga-12 with a 30 round magazine" would be prohibited in Virginia.


§ 18.2-308.8
Importation, sale, possession or transfer of Striker 12's prohibited; penalty.
It shall be unlawful for any person to import, sell, possess or transfer the following firearms: the Striker 12, commonly called a "streetsweeper," or any semi-automatic folding stock shotgun of like kind with a spring tension drum magazine capable of holding twelve shotgun shells. A violation of this section shall be punishable as a Class 6 felony.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: I am right ()
Date: August 27, 2015 08:52PM

You tards are humerous

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Date: August 27, 2015 08:57PM

Father of the woman killed has been on TV blaming the gun . She had said he was in a "Broadway Play", he's a distraught basket case cant blame him, other then who he's blaming, The NRA. Hey the killer passed the background check, there's no test for being pissed off and vowing revenge. And No that's not crazy, just really pissed off and some people are like that. The "Cat" has probably been living on "Cat Food" without a pot to piss in after he lost his last high paying TV gig and was livin in a Apartment in Roanoke. Filled with __________ fill in blank. Begin with letter G then the next word the letter P

Then the boyfriend of the woman who looked all day like he was trying to suppress a "Jap Smile" telling everyone tonight about "Its time for the tide to turn??" He's right! Time to get a CCW and a Gun to be ready for the next pissed off "creep".

Bad news for Libs is that there has already been a huge spike in gun sales as a result of this crime. people are not stupid. They are scared more of the "creeps" then they want gun controls. And the "creeps" are on the rise.

Shit?? Did I leave myself open on that one!! With the Libs?? I'll hear all about it!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: I am right ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:03PM

The dad of he dead reporter said that he wanted to become the "John Walsh of gun control" and would stop at nothing to make sure there was stricter gun control.

I feel sorry for his loss, but that's a bit over the top.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Chrissy Hazelbarker ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:14PM

I am right Wrote:
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> NO, I am correct, a "Saiga-12 with a 30 round
> magazine" would be prohibited in Virginia.
>
>
> § 18.2-308.8
> Importation, sale, possession or transfer of
> Striker 12's prohibited; penalty.
> It shall be unlawful for any person to import,
> sell, possess or transfer the following firearms:
> the Striker 12, commonly called a "streetsweeper,"
> or any semi-automatic folding stock shotgun of
> like kind with a spring tension drum magazine
> capable of holding twelve shotgun shells. A
> violation of this section shall be punishable as a
> Class 6 felony.

The Saiga-12 must be legal in DC the Barry Farms crew had at least five of them.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Spelling! ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:17PM

Constitution! Wrote:
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> Don't judge all gun owners until the facts are
> out. Standing your ground and owning guns is not
> illegal! I disagree with this shooting but will
> defend our 2nd Amendment to it's core!!


Will you defend grammar to "it's" core?

It's is short for "it is".

Not that hard.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Chrissy Hazelbarker ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:28PM

Spelling! Wrote:
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> Constitution! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Don't judge all gun owners until the facts are
> > out. Standing your ground and owning guns is
> not
> > illegal! I disagree with this shooting but
> will
> > defend our 2nd Amendment to it's core!!
>
>
> Will you defend grammar to "it's" core?
>
> It's is short for "it is".
>
> Not that hard.

This shit ain't bout spelling it's bout taking away GUNS

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Repeal It ()
Date: August 27, 2015 09:49PM

GUNS = DEATH & MAYHEM Wrote:
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> tMk4M Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
>
> > No one things there is a chance of repealing
> the
> > 14th, but it would be so much easier to repeal
> the
> > 2nd.
>
> Exactly. If the gun nuts and stooges will not
> submit to reasonable controls and regulations,
> then the Second Amendment needs to be taken out of
> the equation. There is no reason at all for
> society to continue tolerating this sort of
> carnage.

+ 1,000,000

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Date: August 27, 2015 09:51PM

>Liberalism is a serious mental disorder

True! So a new box to check needs to be on Federal 4473 forms to buy a gun

Are you a Liberal, Socialist, Communist or member of the Democrat Party Or ISIS ? YES NO

If Yes no sale!

Damn fixed all that gun crime trouble in 25 seconds flat!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Yd7wb ()
Date: August 28, 2015 08:53PM

he's also pushing for a repeal of private automobile ownership, says only government should be in charge

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: N4Uy3 ()
Date: August 28, 2015 09:20PM

Lets also highly restrict and ban prescription drugs from a doctors and illegal drugs from dealers. It kills more people per year than homicide related deaths by firearms. Never hear liberals fighting for the lives of junkies, first timers and your once in a while doper. They only combat only gun related deaths that are mostly inner city gang related. #blacklivesmatter. The correlation between drugs and firearms is simply amazing. Narcotics are the single largest factor regarding homicides in the USA. A big old wall sure does not sound like a bad idea to me.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: EwpMD ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:13AM

How many more mass shootings are going to happen before we learn that the mentally ill shouldn't be sold guns?

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Blame HIPAA ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:23AM

EwpMD Wrote:
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> How many more mass shootings are going to happen
> before we learn that the mentally ill shouldn't be
> sold guns?


Blame HIPAA and the family members that realize these whacko's are out of their mind and choose to ignore or do nothing about the problem.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: There They Go Again ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:30AM

Liberals disarm the law-abiding and then are surprised when one of theit own comes unhinged and kills all these defenseless people? So typical of moronic libs.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Mentally Ill Guns ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:33AM

Blame HIPAA Wrote:
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> EwpMD Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How many more mass shootings are going to
> happen
> > before we learn that the mentally ill shouldn't
> be
> > sold guns?
>
>
> Blame HIPAA and the family members that realize
> these whacko's are out of their mind and choose to
> ignore or do nothing about the problem.

100% blame them. Christ in the Sandy Hook shooting the mother even bought the gun for the guntard.

It's always the same story. Withdrawn mentally ill shooters who like to play gun shooting video games and live in chat rooms.

Yet we just sit back and continue to let the mentally ill buy guns.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: 2A no longer makes sense ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:37AM

EwpMD Wrote:
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> How many more mass shootings are going to happen
> before we learn that the mentally ill shouldn't be
> sold guns?


Probably a few a year and there is little we can do to stop it. Gun ownership costs the American taxpayers over 12 million dollars a day and is one of the most anti American things one could imagine.

http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-violence-costs-america-more-than-229-billion-every-year-2015-4

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:50AM

It's so funny that Terry McDumbass doesn't even know the gun laws in his own state. Oh wait, that's because he's from New York.

What kind of retards voted for this carpetbagging fraud?

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: here's a thought ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:57AM

Before we go passing more laws about gun control, how about getting the illegal guns off the street? They kill far more people than those mass shootings. After we've done that, then let's talk about other regulations.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: kywDN ()
Date: October 03, 2015 09:58AM

Ralph Pootawn Wrote:
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> It's so funny that Terry McDumbass doesn't even
> know the gun laws in his own state. Oh wait,
> that's because he's from New York.
>
> What kind of retards voted for this carpetbagging
> fraud?

Says another guntard.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: try try again ()
Date: October 03, 2015 10:26AM

here's a thought Wrote:
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> Before we go passing more laws about gun control,
> how about getting the illegal guns off the street?
> They kill far more people than those mass
> shootings. After we've done that, then let's talk
> about other regulations.

Illegal guns started life as legal guns. The biggest problem we have is that black market guns are so cheap. Make black market guns substantially more expensive and crime will fall. How you do that? Ask Australia. They have diminshed the black market and curtailed mass shootings.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: cUGcp ()
Date: October 03, 2015 10:33AM

Mentally Ill Guns Wrote:
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> Blame HIPAA Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > EwpMD Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > How many more mass shootings are going to
> > happen
> > > before we learn that the mentally ill
> shouldn't
> > be
> > > sold guns?
> >
> >
> > Blame HIPAA and the family members that realize
> > these whacko's are out of their mind and choose
> to
> > ignore or do nothing about the problem.
>
> 100% blame them. Christ in the Sandy Hook
> shooting the mother even bought the gun for the
> guntard.
>
> It's always the same story. Withdrawn mentally
> ill shooters who like to play gun shooting video
> games and live in chat rooms.
>
> Yet we just sit back and continue to let the
> mentally ill buy guns.


I wonder if it has ever occurred to these parents that their teenage/young adults kids that NEVER leave their room or basement are "socially" adjusted or if there may be a problem?

Parents and family members need to pull the heads out of their ass.

When these kids withdraw and start to worship strange groups, video games, weapons and so forth, this SHOULD BE A RED FLAG, A BIG RED FLAG.

No direction in life, no friends, not involved in scouts, sports, church or any social organization, substance abuse, this is not rocket science. The problem is OBVIOUS.

Take action, because inaction breads problems.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: DAJAX ()
Date: October 03, 2015 11:39AM

>
I wonder if it has ever occurred to these parents that their teenage/young adults kids that NEVER leave their room or basement are "socially" adjusted or if there may be a problem?

Parents and family members need to pull the heads out of their ass.

When these kids withdraw and start to worship strange groups, video games, weapons and so forth, this SHOULD BE A RED FLAG, A BIG RED FLAG.

No direction in life, no friends, not involved in scouts, sports, church or any social organization, substance abuse, this is not rocket science. The problem is OBVIOUS.

Take action, because inaction breads problems.

All very true. So many give a kid a computer and forget them. Parents don't want to be bothered with them.

No one in my school generation ever though about doing any of the crap gong on today, I myself have had a 22 rifle since I was 11. Something is truly wrong and its Not the NRA that has caused this breakdown in values. I blame the liberal society.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: aussie oy ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:04PM

DAJAX Wrote:
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>
> No one in my school generation ever though about
> doing any of the crap gong on today, I myself have
> had a 22 rifle since I was 11. Something is truly
> wrong and its Not the NRA that has caused this
> breakdown in values. I blame the liberal society.

So explain how Australia brought down its gun crime rate. Here's a hint: It was not by outlawing liberals. Their answer involved gun regulation. Gun proliferation facilitates gun crimes. I know that John Lott will immediately jump up and say that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, but the more insightful people want to stop the (potential) bad guy from getting the gun.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Liberal Myths ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:24PM

aussie oy Wrote:
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> DAJAX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > No one in my school generation ever though
> about
> > doing any of the crap gong on today, I myself
> have
> > had a 22 rifle since I was 11. Something is
> truly
> > wrong and its Not the NRA that has caused this
> > breakdown in values. I blame the liberal
> society.
>
> So explain how Australia brought down its gun
> crime rate. Here's a hint: It was not by
> outlawing liberals. Their answer involved gun
> regulation. Gun proliferation facilitates gun
> crimes. I know that John Lott will immediately
> jump up and say that the only thing that stops a
> bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, but
> the more insightful people want to stop the
> (potential) bad guy from getting the gun.

Australian murder rate was already declining. Try again.


http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425021/australia-gun-control-obama-america

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: thaal ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:27PM

Governor McMouth finds it easier to blame the gun than admit we have a negro problem.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Crazy People with Guns ()
Date: October 03, 2015 12:40PM

We have a guntard problem. It's about that we stop giving guns to crazy people.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: gun control my ass ()
Date: October 03, 2015 01:31PM

Gun control and confiscation has killed over 53 million people:



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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: wmwmN ()
Date: October 03, 2015 01:36PM

aussie oy Wrote:
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> DAJAX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > No one in my school generation ever though
> about
> > doing any of the crap gong on today, I myself
> have
> > had a 22 rifle since I was 11. Something is
> truly
> > wrong and its Not the NRA that has caused this
> > breakdown in values. I blame the liberal
> society.
>
> So explain how Australia brought down its gun
> crime rate. Here's a hint: It was not by
> outlawing liberals. Their answer involved gun
> regulation. Gun proliferation facilitates gun
> crimes. I know that John Lott will immediately
> jump up and say that the only thing that stops a
> bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun, but
> the more insightful people want to stop the
> (potential) bad guy from getting the gun.

Move to Australia. They don't have a 2nd Amendment. We do. Get over it.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: FPS ()
Date: October 03, 2015 02:03PM

And while the kid is hiding out in the basement or bedroom.

Take the First Person Shooter games away and curtail the First Person Shooter online games.

People that have mental problems or are on the edge do not need to spend hours a day playing FPS games.

Go outside and play, play a sport, become a sports fan, interact with family and friends, get a job or go to counseling. Solitary confinement is not a way to grow up.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: DAJAX ()
Date: October 03, 2015 02:06PM

>Move to Australia. They don't have a 2nd Amendment. We do. Get over it.

Exactly, Get TFO Haters MOVE
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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Move please ()
Date: October 03, 2015 02:45PM

DAJAX Wrote:
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> >Move to Australia. They don't have a 2nd
> Amendment. We do. Get over it.
>
> Exactly, Get TFO Haters MOVE

Sounds like this person is talking about you. Move please.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Sensible Gun Control ()
Date: October 03, 2015 02:55PM

No guns for blacks or libs, and crime drops by 90%.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: hith ()
Date: October 03, 2015 03:01PM

Sensible Gun Control Wrote:
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> No guns for blacks or libs, and crime drops by
> 90%.

You forgot the illegal aliens scum.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: USMC ()
Date: October 03, 2015 05:04PM

Obama said he leads the the worlds strongest military and just killed 9 doctors and scores more wounded by bombing a civilian hospital in Afganistan. Is he now tied with the Oregon shooter or does he get credit for the other 100's of thousands he's killed too.... Nobel for him and Kerry, really

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: NRA Supporting Mentally Ill ()
Date: October 03, 2015 05:18PM

While the NRA continues to support guns to the mentally ill people, we will always have mass shootings.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: DAJAX ()
Date: October 03, 2015 05:34PM

>The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

"Simple" that's you "Simple Shit"! LOL! Parachute out over North Korea Please.

>While the NRA continues to support guns to the mentally ill people,

A laughably try you asshole! Its Liberals that support the mental folk as Liberals are "Mental" themselves.

How else can they explain there Insane support for millions of Illegal's entering the USA . LOL.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: marcus welby ()
Date: October 03, 2015 05:45PM

DAJAX Wrote:
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> >The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
>
> "Simple" that's you "Simple Shit"! LOL! Parachute
> out over North Korea Please.
>
> >While the NRA continues to support guns to the
> mentally ill people,
>
> A laughably try you asshole! Its Liberals that
> support the mental folk as Liberals are "Mental"
> themselves.
>
> How else can they explain there Insane support for
> millions of Illegal's entering the USA . LOL.

Grandpa, please take your meds (and brush up on your grammar).

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: WTFers?? ()
Date: October 03, 2015 05:50PM

DAJAX Wrote:
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> >The answer is simple. Repeal the 2nd Amendment.
>
> "Simple" that's you "Simple Shit"! LOL! Parachute
> out over North Korea Please.
>
> >While the NRA continues to support guns to the
> mentally ill people,
>
> A laughably try you asshole! Its Liberals that
> support the mental folk as Liberals are "Mental"
> themselves.
>
> How else can they explain there Insane support for
> millions of Illegal's entering the USA . LOL.

Whoa! Somebody got into the alcohol early today.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Common Sense Gun Control ()
Date: October 03, 2015 06:31PM

Americans, including Virginians, are too stupid to own guns. Studies show that having a gun in your house increases your chances of dying.

We have the police to handle our problems. We need to make sure that a Democrat wins in 2016, and finally we can pass some sensible gun laws.

In fact, the most dangerous person in the USA is a white male.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: DAJAX ()
Date: October 03, 2015 06:55PM

>Grandpa, please take your meds (and brush up on your grammar).

>Whoa! Somebody got into the alcohol early today.

Sorry no dopes or booze.. but its always nice to have friends who care..LOL

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: yn76Y ()
Date: October 03, 2015 07:03PM

NRA Supporting Mentally Ill Wrote:
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> While the NRA continues to support guns to the
> mentally ill people, we will always have mass
> shootings.


Actually they don't. That would be more the ACLU and mental health advocates who oppose inclusion of mental health records in background checks on the basis of patient privacy and fear of causing people not to seek treatment.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: DAJAX ()
Date: October 03, 2015 08:49PM

>Actually they don't. That would be more the ACLU and mental health advocates who oppose inclusion of mental health records in background checks on the basis of patient privacy and fear of causing people not to seek treatment.
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True True..Very sadly so True !

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Parrie ()
Date: October 04, 2015 10:17AM

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: fxytfndr ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:02AM

Parrie Wrote:
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Not true. Link or stop posting bullshit.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: a vet ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:25AM

Wayne LaPierre received a draft deferment, but I suspect it was not due to mental illness. He was born in 1948. When he was an undergrad at Siena in NY in the late '60s, there was a student deferment option for those who were enrolled full time in college. Although I haven't seen the actual documents, it appears it would be easier and more logical if LaPierre applied for a student deferment rather than jump through the hoops required for a medical (mental illness) deferment. The student deferment option was eliminated in 1971.
Wayne LaPierre adjudicates himself as mentally defective person pretty much every time he opens his mouth though.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: FoF ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:29AM

a vet Wrote:
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> Wayne LaPierre received a draft deferment, but I
> suspect it was not due to mental illness. He was
> born in 1948. When he was an undergrad at Siena in
> NY in the late '60s, there was a student deferment
> option for those who were enrolled full time in
> college. Although I haven't seen the actual
> documents, it appears it would be easier and more
> logical if LaPierre applied for a student
> deferment rather than jump through the hoops
> required for a medical (mental illness) deferment.
> The student deferment option was eliminated in
> 1971.
> Wayne LaPierre adjudicates himself as mentally
> defective person pretty much every time he opens
> his mouth though.

You're stupid.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: FoF ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:29AM

a vet Wrote:
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> Wayne LaPierre received a draft deferment, but I
> suspect it was not due to mental illness. He was
> born in 1948. When he was an undergrad at Siena in
> NY in the late '60s, there was a student deferment
> option for those who were enrolled full time in
> college. Although I haven't seen the actual
> documents, it appears it would be easier and more
> logical if LaPierre applied for a student
> deferment rather than jump through the hoops
> required for a medical (mental illness) deferment.
> The student deferment option was eliminated in
> 1971.
> Wayne LaPierre adjudicates himself as mentally
> defective person pretty much every time he opens
> his mouth though.

You're stupid.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Gun control my ass ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:40AM

Where's the Obama politicization of gun control when 9 is the average number of Chicagoans gunned down every week. Because Chicago has the toughest gun control law in the country and it doesn't work. It's not about gun control. It's about gun confiscation so the average law abiding citizen can't defend himself from the maniacs and thugs (and the government). Or how about the 3,000 unborn babies murdered in this country every day?? Obama's got no problem with that, either.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: FoF ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:46AM

Gun control my ass Wrote:
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> Where's the Obama politicization of gun control
> when 9 is the average number of Chicagoans gunned
> down every week. Because Chicago has the toughest
> gun control law in the country and it doesn't
> work. It's not about gun control. It's about gun
> confiscation so the average law abiding citizen
> can't defend himself from the maniacs and thugs
> (and the government). Or how about the 3,000
> unborn babies murdered in this country every day??
> Obama's got no problem with that, either.


You are really stupid.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: The Truth Is Told On FFU ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:49AM

>Or how about the 3,000 unborn babies murdered in this country every day?? Obama's got no problem with that, either.

That's THE TRUTH, LIBERALS ARE MASS MURDERERS, BABY KILLERS and there Ok with that!

They are SICK!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Freedom One ()
Date: October 04, 2015 12:01PM


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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Gun control my ass ()
Date: October 04, 2015 12:10PM

You're right. I am stupid for saying there are 9 murders a week in Chicago. Last month there were 60. Their gun control ROCKS!!

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Calling it ()
Date: October 04, 2015 12:16PM

Freedom One Wrote:
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>

Ummm... Hilter lost. But, hey, you are free to tattoo yourself with swastika's and put a confederate flag on the back of your pickup truck.

Just don't demand that every American likes you. We reserve the rights to call you a moron.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Gun control my ass ()
Date: October 04, 2015 12:29PM

Calling it Wrote:
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> Freedom One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >

> > Ummm... Hilter lost. But, hey, you are free to
> tattoo yourself with swastika's and put a
> confederate flag on the back of your pickup truck.
>
>
> Just don't demand that every American likes you.
> We reserve the rights to call you a moron.

You don't get it. Have your dad explain it to you.

And I don't give a shit whether you like me or not. You'd be one of the first taken out anyway.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Tom Jefferson ()
Date: October 04, 2015 02:34PM

One thing about Hillary and McAuliffe, they are always for sale. If gun owners could pay them more than the anti-gun people, they would support giving every new born an AK-47.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: FrankR. ()
Date: October 04, 2015 03:19PM

Dirp.
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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: try try again ()
Date: October 04, 2015 05:19PM

Gun control my ass Wrote:
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> You're right. I am stupid for saying there are 9
> murders a week in Chicago. Last month there were
> 60. Their gun control ROCKS!!

You are implacably dumb. If you had symptoms of a heart attack, you would go to a bar instead of an emergency room because fewer people die in bars than in emergency rooms.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Rahm's Nightmare ()
Date: October 04, 2015 05:28PM

Here's a website that keeps a tally on Chicago shootings. Enjoy libs.

http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: perspicacious one ()
Date: October 04, 2015 05:49PM

Rahm's Nightmare Wrote:
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> Here's a website that keeps a tally on Chicago
> shootings. Enjoy libs.
>
> http://crime.chicagotribune.com/chicago/shootings

You still miss the point, which is not surprisng. Perhaps you need some help from Sean Hannity or John Lott.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: No Its You Who Miss the Point ()
Date: October 04, 2015 06:22PM

The Great Majority of Gun Crimes are Black on Black Crime. Where's Obama with that??

Why is he not talking to the young black youth telling them to cool it and have some respect for one another ? Hell no, He courting Hollywood Liberal$$$
that make the gun violence movie$$$ and Gangster Rapper video$$$$$$.

You need help getting your head out of your ass.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: hans and franz ()
Date: October 04, 2015 07:50PM

No Its You Who Miss the Point Wrote:
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> The Great Majority of Gun Crimes are Black on
> Black Crime. Where's Obama with that??
>
> Why is he not talking to the young black youth
> telling them to cool it and have some respect for
> one another ? Hell no, He courting Hollywood
> Liberal$$$
> that make the gun violence movie$$$ and Gangster
> Rapper video$$$$$$.
>
> You need help getting your head out of your ass.


Do you practice being stupid or does it just come naturally? Australia shows that gun control can work. Alas, we have a nation of girly men suffering from penis envy who need their guns to feel manly.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Asstralia Asstralia Asstralia ()
Date: October 04, 2015 07:58PM

You like that place so well GTFU of here and go there! Piss on Australia their gun laws and every other country except the USA that has a Bill of Rights that actually works better then any other country's idea of Freedom on this Planet.


DAJAX

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: reality checker3 ()
Date: October 04, 2015 08:07PM

Freedom One Wrote:
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>


"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Irrelevant. The vast number of gun owners are not in a militia.


01-20_Cx_Editorial_cartoon_Militia_redef



Need a gun to deter a "tyrannical government"?

The rifles that civilians could get in 1791 were essentially the same as what the military had. Overrun some cannon units before they can be spiked and you've evened the odds.

Today, an AR-15 works well enough to gun down cowering 5 year olds in their classroom, along with the young teachers trying to vainly protect them with their own bodies, but are no match for an Abrams tank, F-16, or Apache helicopter.


M1-Tank.jpg

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Leave us alone ()
Date: October 04, 2015 08:43PM

Cuomo wants to shut down the gov't for gun control. Gun control Dems are a bunch of idiots, easiest ay to lose an election is enact some stupid gun law. Instead, put the crazies in mental health lock ups. Then we'd all be safe.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Get Your Facts Stright Pal ()
Date: October 04, 2015 09:07PM

>The rifles that civilians could get in 1791 were essentially the same as what the military had. Overrun some cannon units before they can be spiked and you've evened the odds.
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Stop bullshitting people, The FOUNDERS ALLOWED CANNON the most powerful weapons of war known to man at the time! As ARMS that THE PEOPLE Owned , Not Militias. The Same as a Abrams Tank, Or A Battleship! A B52 bomber! Without Restriction and Smooth Bore CANNON like they had are still lawful to own! So all your Bullshit goes Down The Drain!

I wont even discuss what a "Militia" was back then with you because...

Gun Grabbers are So Stupid they don't even have any Facts or Really know WTF there Even Talking about.. Jees

DAJAX

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: Stretches ()
Date: October 04, 2015 09:26PM

Hey you stupid fuck liberal, get two thirds of the house and senate and three fourths of the states to overturn the second amendment and then come here and spout shit. Until then, shut your fucking piehole and try and pull your worthless fucking head out of your ass.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: kH6Jm ()
Date: October 04, 2015 10:28PM

Oregon shooter Chris Mercer by Keith Ablow, Psychiatrist


Chris Harper Mercer, the man who killed nine people in Oregon yesterday, was almost certainly profoundly mentally ill. According to neighbors, Mercer isolated himself from others, communicated largely through the Internet and lived in the basement of his mother’s house in Torrance, California before moving to Oregon.

He was frequently seen wearing camouflage pants and combat boots. And he reportedly left a note at the scene of his rampage yesterday stating he had no girlfriend and no life and would be welcomed in Hell and embraced by the devil.

I certainly never examined Mr. Mercer, but these details, if true, may point to conditions like schizoid personality disorder, Asperberger’s syndrome or even schizophrenia, any of which can dramatically limit the ability to socialize and empathize with others, contribute to feelings of emptiness and isolation and spawn anything from intense depression to paranoid delusions.

Given the fact that Mercer lived for a time with his mother during his adult years, was noticed to be peculiar by neighbors and had acquaintances online, I would venture that more than one person knew he was not well.

If the president had a son like Chris Mercer, believe me, he would not be content to have his ill son live in a country where he could not procure firearms quite as easily. He would want his son’s disorder definitively diagnosed and definitively treated.

I do not know whether he ever got anything like comprehensive help, but it is hard to believe he could have, given what happened Thursday.

Violence of the kind perpetrated by Chris Mercer is always preventable through a combination of psychotherapy, proper medications and hospitalizations when needed.

Period. There is no exception.

But people like Chris Mercer keep falling through the cracks of our shattered, sorry excuse for a mental health care system. This is tragic and unnecessary, because outreach and screening systems could be put in place that would be neither prohibitively expensive, nor an impingement on anyone’s liberty.

One of the hurdles in the way of building a system to prevent killings like those that occurred in Oregon is that politicians like President Obama turn such tragedies into reprehensible calls for gun control, rather than proper calls to rebuild the mental health care system.

Somehow, the uncontrolled psychiatric symptoms of one man should justify, in the president’s mind, curtailing the liberties of all men.

If the president had a son like Chris Mercer, believe me, he would not be content to have his ill son live in a country where he could not procure firearms quite as easily. He would want his son’s disorder definitively diagnosed and definitively treated. That would be, after all, the humane thing and the right thing to do.

Instead, the president, through his utterly absurd public comments after this tragedy, argues for an America where men like Chris Mercer (of which there are many, many thousands who will never hurt a soul) are free to live lives of terrible desperation and suffering in the shadowy basements of suburban homes, lost in delusions and wandering the streets.

Fixing things, for real, is always harder than burying them, whether for convenience or to achieve political gain.

The president’s proposed solution to the rash of mass shootings plaguing our nation, which have been due almost exclusively to mental illness, would be no solution at all.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: IHY ()
Date: October 04, 2015 11:11PM

Well said. Obama is oblivious to reality.

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: October 05, 2015 12:08AM

The Oregon shooter went to a high school for kids with autism....

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Re: Here We Go: McAuliffe Calls For Stricter VA Gun Control After Today's Shooting
Posted by: None so Blind ()
Date: October 05, 2015 12:30AM

"Chris Harper Mercer, the man who killed nine people in Oregon yesterday, was almost certainly profoundly mentally ill. According to neighbors, Mercer isolated himself from others, communicated largely through the Internet and lived in the basement of his mother’s house in Torrance, California before moving to Oregon.

He was frequently seen wearing camouflage pants and combat boots. And he reportedly left a note at the scene of his rampage yesterday stating he had no girlfriend and no life and would be welcomed in Hell and embraced by the devil."

You people are so goddamned clueless. That profile describes most users of this site! Ergo, you are all "almost certainly profoundly mentally ill".

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