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Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Pissed off
()
Date: June 03, 2009 08:03AM
Is the county run "Board of Governors" the best stewards for the fifth tax district when in the last election only 200 people voted in the rigged elections? The county board has made it illegal for a mail out vote which wouod give a fairer representation of the people, most of whom never know when there is a "preferance pol." There are over 60,000 people here in Reston few if any have ever seen thier memebers of their "Governing Board." Now they want to build a 65-100 million dollar complex on one of the few parks that has a baseball diamond where kids can play.They have too much of our money! Reston already pays 5 cents on the dollar for it's Community Center when other places pay 2 cents in effect subsidizing other places. We can't be a town but can we have a little fairness in our governance? Isn't time we ditched this antiquated and unfair system hastily put in by Martha Peneno? It came from the sewer district and was hastily thrown together. Fair play for Reston!
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Bonfire
()
Date: June 03, 2009 08:07AM
YOU SHALL CONFORM!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
496
()
Date: June 03, 2009 08:52AM
Leaving Reston, best move I ever made. Fucking Nazis.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: June 03, 2009 09:00AM
If only 200 voted in the RCC Board preference poll and if 1,100 people have already signed the petition against the 170,000 sq ft Brown's Chapel Rec Center, then those 1,100 ought to be able to put up a slate to replace the RCC Board with folks who oppose the Browns Chapel proposal. Just sayin'
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
formerhick76
()
Date: June 03, 2009 10:10AM
Thomas More Wrote:
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> If only 200 voted in the RCC Board preference poll
> and if 1,100 people have already signed the
> petition against the 170,000 sq ft Brown's Chapel
> Rec Center, then those 1,100 ought to be able to
> put up a slate to replace the RCC Board with folks
> who oppose the Browns Chapel proposal. Just sayin'
Does the RCC Board have a recall mechanism?
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> If only 200 voted in the RCC Board preference poll
> and if 1,100 people have already signed the
> petition against the 170,000 sq ft Brown's Chapel
> Rec Center, then those 1,100 ought to be able to
> put up a slate to replace the RCC Board with folks
> who oppose the Browns Chapel proposal. Just sayin'
Does the RCC Board have a recall mechanism?
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
RHOA
()
Date: June 03, 2009 10:29AM
Ok so you're bitching about the RA(Reston Association) board and in the same sentence you practically say anybody can get elected?
Just do what other board members do. Smooze the local business and show up at all the Reston social events. You'll be a shoe in to win.
Yes, it is an elite group, but not stuck up. The goal is to maintain the original vision of Robert E, Simmon and not let the county ruin the wooded areas or crazy buildings to trash the area.
Just do what other board members do. Smooze the local business and show up at all the Reston social events. You'll be a shoe in to win.
Yes, it is an elite group, but not stuck up. The goal is to maintain the original vision of Robert E, Simmon and not let the county ruin the wooded areas or crazy buildings to trash the area.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
RHOA
()
Date: June 03, 2009 10:33AM
Here's one example before you start bitching:
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=321757&paper=71&cat=104
http://www.connectionnewspapers.com/article.asp?article=321757&paper=71&cat=104
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 03, 2009 12:34PM
Pissed off Wrote:
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> Is the county run "Board of Governors" the best
> stewards for the fifth tax district when in the
> last election only 200 people voted in the rigged
> elections? The county board has made it illegal
> for a mail out vote which wouod give a fairer
> representation of the people, most of whom never
> know when there is a "preferance pol." There are
> over 60,000 people here in Reston few if any have
> ever seen thier memebers of their "Governing
> Board." Now they want to build a 65-100 million
> dollar complex on one of the few parks that has a
> baseball diamond where kids can play.They have too
> much of our money! Reston already pays 5 cents on
> the dollar for it's Community Center when other
> places pay 2 cents in effect subsidizing other
> places. We can't be a town but can we have a
> little fairness in our governance? Isn't time we
> ditched this antiquated and unfair system hastily
> put in by Martha Peneno? It came from the sewer
> district and was hastily thrown together. Fair
> play for Reston!
See below from June 01 Meeting
The deeper the consultants got into the their presentation, the less receptive the crowd became. The crowd was sizeable, filling up the large hall at the Hunters Woods RCC.
The presentation was comprised of "fuzzy" numbers, and theoretical demographics and projections. More questions were left unanswered than answered.
At no time was there ever mention of a need, other than for the growth outside the STD5
We learned that a Reston Resident (who pays Reston rates at the facility) does not need a Reston mailing address. Reston business employees, regardless of where they live, are entitled to the same rights and rates s Reston residents, yet contribute nothing to the STD to fund the construction, operations and maintenance of the facility. Yes, commercial property is also taxed, but business can pass through and write off as an expense this tax, while residential property owners must eat it.
No one was really sure how many non-resident business employees would be using the facility as a “Reston resident,” but it was guesstimated the numbers would represent about 40% to 50% of the users. Even the consultants who worked tirelessly on this project for nearly 8 months, didn’t have a clue how many non-resident employees would be using the facility.
On the upside, the land swap will go to referendum for a vote in September. If it passes, it is estimated the studies and final planning will take upwards to 3-4 years.
Most important – it was decided by RA and the RCC that the project and STD funding will go to the voters on referendum. This can add another 1 – 2 years to the completion date, making the facility shovel ready sometime in 2014 or 2015 - if the voters approve it.
The consultants left and the RCC and RA Boards met and later opened the floor to comments and questions. I didn’t stay as the questions I had only the consultants could answer.
Others who attended the meeting are encouraged to add their input.
The next meeting with be June 15.
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http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/191760.html
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2009 12:37PM by Junes.
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> Is the county run "Board of Governors" the best
> stewards for the fifth tax district when in the
> last election only 200 people voted in the rigged
> elections? The county board has made it illegal
> for a mail out vote which wouod give a fairer
> representation of the people, most of whom never
> know when there is a "preferance pol." There are
> over 60,000 people here in Reston few if any have
> ever seen thier memebers of their "Governing
> Board." Now they want to build a 65-100 million
> dollar complex on one of the few parks that has a
> baseball diamond where kids can play.They have too
> much of our money! Reston already pays 5 cents on
> the dollar for it's Community Center when other
> places pay 2 cents in effect subsidizing other
> places. We can't be a town but can we have a
> little fairness in our governance? Isn't time we
> ditched this antiquated and unfair system hastily
> put in by Martha Peneno? It came from the sewer
> district and was hastily thrown together. Fair
> play for Reston!
See below from June 01 Meeting
The deeper the consultants got into the their presentation, the less receptive the crowd became. The crowd was sizeable, filling up the large hall at the Hunters Woods RCC.
The presentation was comprised of "fuzzy" numbers, and theoretical demographics and projections. More questions were left unanswered than answered.
At no time was there ever mention of a need, other than for the growth outside the STD5
We learned that a Reston Resident (who pays Reston rates at the facility) does not need a Reston mailing address. Reston business employees, regardless of where they live, are entitled to the same rights and rates s Reston residents, yet contribute nothing to the STD to fund the construction, operations and maintenance of the facility. Yes, commercial property is also taxed, but business can pass through and write off as an expense this tax, while residential property owners must eat it.
No one was really sure how many non-resident business employees would be using the facility as a “Reston resident,” but it was guesstimated the numbers would represent about 40% to 50% of the users. Even the consultants who worked tirelessly on this project for nearly 8 months, didn’t have a clue how many non-resident employees would be using the facility.
On the upside, the land swap will go to referendum for a vote in September. If it passes, it is estimated the studies and final planning will take upwards to 3-4 years.
Most important – it was decided by RA and the RCC that the project and STD funding will go to the voters on referendum. This can add another 1 – 2 years to the completion date, making the facility shovel ready sometime in 2014 or 2015 - if the voters approve it.
The consultants left and the RCC and RA Boards met and later opened the floor to comments and questions. I didn’t stay as the questions I had only the consultants could answer.
Others who attended the meeting are encouraged to add their input.
The next meeting with be June 15.
====
http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/191760.html
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/03/2009 12:37PM by Junes.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 04, 2009 11:36AM
Thomas More Wrote:
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> If only 200 voted in the RCC Board preference poll
> and if 1,100 people have already signed the
> petition against the 170,000 sq ft Brown's Chapel
> Rec Center, then those 1,100 ought to be able to
> put up a slate to replace the RCC Board with folks
> who oppose the Browns Chapel proposal. Just sayin'
We previously did have the outlying members of the fifth tax district who for years and years had to pay the tax but did not use the center because they lived too far. Finally through a clever electioneering they did capture the board. It didn't take much since numbers at the "preference pols"have for years been low relying on four prominent groups to vote in people for the board. No one else pays much attention to the board. They hoped to institute some reforms for example why dose Restons pay 5 cents while other districts pay 2? What do Restons get for it.They were hamstrung by Cathy Hudgens who prevented any reforms and initiated legislation which forbade mail out voting which might of gotten a fairer representation. Cathy won overwhelmingly in the last election despite both newspapers admited a reluctance to listen to her constituents. Finally not wanting to be put up with it any more they all resigned and simultaneously got taken off the tax of the fifth district. Possibly a inside agreement?
People who are for Browns mill can back a canidate but the whole structure of the "Board of Governors" precludes much reform.
Will Restons be able to raise enough funds to support a suit to oppose it's own Reston Association and save Browns Mill for future generations? Or is the forces of Reston already drawn up to support a new expensive sports complex that will complement the dazzling new Lake Ann Center? Can a few rag tag citizens rally together and save a place for their children to play outdoors? Or will the county which has always fought against Reston becoming a viable alternative to Fairfax prevail and take over land that was once a part of Reston?
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> If only 200 voted in the RCC Board preference poll
> and if 1,100 people have already signed the
> petition against the 170,000 sq ft Brown's Chapel
> Rec Center, then those 1,100 ought to be able to
> put up a slate to replace the RCC Board with folks
> who oppose the Browns Chapel proposal. Just sayin'
We previously did have the outlying members of the fifth tax district who for years and years had to pay the tax but did not use the center because they lived too far. Finally through a clever electioneering they did capture the board. It didn't take much since numbers at the "preference pols"have for years been low relying on four prominent groups to vote in people for the board. No one else pays much attention to the board. They hoped to institute some reforms for example why dose Restons pay 5 cents while other districts pay 2? What do Restons get for it.They were hamstrung by Cathy Hudgens who prevented any reforms and initiated legislation which forbade mail out voting which might of gotten a fairer representation. Cathy won overwhelmingly in the last election despite both newspapers admited a reluctance to listen to her constituents. Finally not wanting to be put up with it any more they all resigned and simultaneously got taken off the tax of the fifth district. Possibly a inside agreement?
People who are for Browns mill can back a canidate but the whole structure of the "Board of Governors" precludes much reform.
Will Restons be able to raise enough funds to support a suit to oppose it's own Reston Association and save Browns Mill for future generations? Or is the forces of Reston already drawn up to support a new expensive sports complex that will complement the dazzling new Lake Ann Center? Can a few rag tag citizens rally together and save a place for their children to play outdoors? Or will the county which has always fought against Reston becoming a viable alternative to Fairfax prevail and take over land that was once a part of Reston?
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 04, 2009 12:23PM
Rod Wrote:
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> Will Restons be able to raise enough funds to
> support a suit to oppose it's own Reston
> Association and save Browns Mill for future
> generations? Or is the forces of Reston already
> drawn up to support a new expensive sports complex
> that will complement the dazzling new Lake Ann
> Center? Can a few rag tag citizens rally together
> and save a place for their children to play
> outdoors? Or will the county which has always
> fought against Reston becoming a viable
> alternative to Fairfax prevail and take over land
> that was once a part of Reston?
Those "few rag tag" citizens have proven to be far more effective than even Princess Catherine would have hoped.
Because of their efforts, the "land swap," which the trio (RA/RCC/BOS) hoped would slide through as a meeting agenda item with little fan fare, will now be put to a referendum to be voted by all residents of STD5.
Because of their efforts, the STD5 funding, which was orignally planned to be added to the existing district tax without a vote using an obscure technicality, will now be put to a referendum. The trio are very disturbed by this as it will push back the project by at least a year.
Further, an effort is underway to bring commercial property owners into the effort (not to be confused with developers). With the high vacancy rates, even with low assessments, they know that extending the STD5 tax for another 30 years is not a plus for sales or leases.
RA/RCC and the BOS had hoped they could slide this through quietly and present the tax payers with the "good" news that:
Reston would be home to a state-of-the art community sports facility
The cost would be funded by the STD5 Tax, to be extended another 30 years
Every effort would be made to keep the tax rate the same - but no guarantee
60% of the users would be non-reston residents, but 100% of the funding would fall on the backs of STD5 tax payers
A state-of-the-art facility and at least on Metro stop (possibly two) - as community focal points - would be a huge draw to new business and residents, which would justify increasing density guidelines.
====
Those few rag tag citizens have put a considerable burr under Princess Catherine's saddle as well as the RA and RCC. What they hoped would be a "quick and dirty" to put it too the complacent STD5 tax payers, back fired on them.
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> Will Restons be able to raise enough funds to
> support a suit to oppose it's own Reston
> Association and save Browns Mill for future
> generations? Or is the forces of Reston already
> drawn up to support a new expensive sports complex
> that will complement the dazzling new Lake Ann
> Center? Can a few rag tag citizens rally together
> and save a place for their children to play
> outdoors? Or will the county which has always
> fought against Reston becoming a viable
> alternative to Fairfax prevail and take over land
> that was once a part of Reston?
Those "few rag tag" citizens have proven to be far more effective than even Princess Catherine would have hoped.
Because of their efforts, the "land swap," which the trio (RA/RCC/BOS) hoped would slide through as a meeting agenda item with little fan fare, will now be put to a referendum to be voted by all residents of STD5.
Because of their efforts, the STD5 funding, which was orignally planned to be added to the existing district tax without a vote using an obscure technicality, will now be put to a referendum. The trio are very disturbed by this as it will push back the project by at least a year.
Further, an effort is underway to bring commercial property owners into the effort (not to be confused with developers). With the high vacancy rates, even with low assessments, they know that extending the STD5 tax for another 30 years is not a plus for sales or leases.
RA/RCC and the BOS had hoped they could slide this through quietly and present the tax payers with the "good" news that:
Reston would be home to a state-of-the art community sports facility
The cost would be funded by the STD5 Tax, to be extended another 30 years
Every effort would be made to keep the tax rate the same - but no guarantee
60% of the users would be non-reston residents, but 100% of the funding would fall on the backs of STD5 tax payers
A state-of-the-art facility and at least on Metro stop (possibly two) - as community focal points - would be a huge draw to new business and residents, which would justify increasing density guidelines.
====
Those few rag tag citizens have put a considerable burr under Princess Catherine's saddle as well as the RA and RCC. What they hoped would be a "quick and dirty" to put it too the complacent STD5 tax payers, back fired on them.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 04, 2009 02:33PM
Princess Caroline has on only once relented when some of the rebellious subjects rose up against her Fox Mill housing explosion and her very throne was in peril
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 04, 2009 03:18PM
I don't know who Princess Caroline is, but the last I heard Hudgins plans to retire and support her "zoning czar" to fill her shoes
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 04, 2009 03:47PM
They are a very close knit Democrat originazation, not social Democrats like in Europe but business Democrats, but they often like to think of themselves as if in those terms. But they do fear a uprising of the people. Last time the independents, which consisted of Democrats wanting relief and unendorsed Republicans were divided in opposing her.The Republicans don't seem to really try, so maybe her kingdom will be re instated in this new guy and we'll have more of the same?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2009 04:51PM by Rod.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2009 04:51PM by Rod.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Furfur
()
Date: June 04, 2009 04:01PM
Rod = Spunky
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: June 04, 2009 10:10PM
Junes Wrote:
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> > I don't know who Princess Caroline is, but the last I heard Hudgins plans to retire and support her "zoning czar" to fill her shoes< <
Hudgins intends to run for re-elecion. She's fundraising already. De La Fe will have to wait.
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> > I don't know who Princess Caroline is, but the last I heard Hudgins plans to retire and support her "zoning czar" to fill her shoes< <
Hudgins intends to run for re-elecion. She's fundraising already. De La Fe will have to wait.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Poor thang
()
Date: June 05, 2009 03:21AM
King Obama hasn't appointed her Princess Cathy of something-or-other? She was counting on that crown.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 05, 2009 06:43AM
Thomas More Wrote:
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> Junes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > I don't know who Princess Caroline is, but the
> last I heard Hudgins plans to retire and support
> her "zoning czar" to fill her shoes< <
>
> Hudgins intends to run for re-elecion. She's
> fundraising already. De La Fe will have to wait.
Thanks for the heads up.
She's a piece of work - her agenda is to increase density in Reston until the area looks like Balston, creating a new skyline by "building to the sky" and defining "green space" as a tree planted in a concrete cutout.
The woman has never met a tax or developer she didn't like - a true Connollite. She was practically orgasmic when plans were approved to tear down The Spectrum and replace it with a towering center similar to the Town Center across the street. I'm sure she had to resort to anti-anxiety meds when the market headed south and the plans were set aside indefinitely.
The 2nd RCC project shove may be the project that takes her crown. It will cetainly be fodder for an interesting campaign - should she be foolish enough to run.
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> Junes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > I don't know who Princess Caroline is, but the
> last I heard Hudgins plans to retire and support
> her "zoning czar" to fill her shoes< <
>
> Hudgins intends to run for re-elecion. She's
> fundraising already. De La Fe will have to wait.
Thanks for the heads up.
She's a piece of work - her agenda is to increase density in Reston until the area looks like Balston, creating a new skyline by "building to the sky" and defining "green space" as a tree planted in a concrete cutout.
The woman has never met a tax or developer she didn't like - a true Connollite. She was practically orgasmic when plans were approved to tear down The Spectrum and replace it with a towering center similar to the Town Center across the street. I'm sure she had to resort to anti-anxiety meds when the market headed south and the plans were set aside indefinitely.
The 2nd RCC project shove may be the project that takes her crown. It will cetainly be fodder for an interesting campaign - should she be foolish enough to run.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 05, 2009 07:59AM
"RA/RCC and the BOS had hoped they could slide this through quietly and present the tax payers with the "good" news that:
Reston would be home to a state-of-the art community sports facility
The cost would be funded by the STD5 Tax, to be extended another 30 years"
We will after this all passes see these people on the front pages of local papers smiling and giving each other an award for being "the best of Reston" or "citizen of the year" or some such thing. The RCC board looked very unhappy at the June 1 meeting. Usually ther are in there secure catered "board meetings"where they don't have to enconter any citizens where the look like a scene out of George Orwell's "Animal Farm." The citizens rarely see them and they rarely see the citizens.
But the great democratic movements of the last hundred years have triumphed because of their basic goodness. You can't fool all of the people all of the time.So let's hope.
Reston would be home to a state-of-the art community sports facility
The cost would be funded by the STD5 Tax, to be extended another 30 years"
We will after this all passes see these people on the front pages of local papers smiling and giving each other an award for being "the best of Reston" or "citizen of the year" or some such thing. The RCC board looked very unhappy at the June 1 meeting. Usually ther are in there secure catered "board meetings"where they don't have to enconter any citizens where the look like a scene out of George Orwell's "Animal Farm." The citizens rarely see them and they rarely see the citizens.
But the great democratic movements of the last hundred years have triumphed because of their basic goodness. You can't fool all of the people all of the time.So let's hope.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
formerhick76
()
Date: June 05, 2009 11:50AM
Junes Wrote:
> She's a piece of work - her agenda is to increase
> density in Reston until the area looks like
> Balston, creating a new skyline by "building to
> the sky" and defining "green space" as a tree
> planted in a concrete cutout.
Yes, because we want to maintain our low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or Woodstock?
> She's a piece of work - her agenda is to increase
> density in Reston until the area looks like
> Balston, creating a new skyline by "building to
> the sky" and defining "green space" as a tree
> planted in a concrete cutout.
Yes, because we want to maintain our low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or Woodstock?
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 05, 2009 12:08PM
Fortunately, most people who live in Reston and drive to work on the Reston Parkway parking lot don't agree with you.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
formerhick76
()
Date: June 05, 2009 01:14PM
Junes Wrote:
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> Fortunately, most people who live in Reston and
> drive to work on the Reston Parkway parking lot
> don't agree with you.
Yes, we can keep everything exactly like it was in 1985. I wonder if the people driving on I-66 or Route 7 think we should keep density low in Fairfax.
Where do you envision people living, Junes?
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> Fortunately, most people who live in Reston and
> drive to work on the Reston Parkway parking lot
> don't agree with you.
Yes, we can keep everything exactly like it was in 1985. I wonder if the people driving on I-66 or Route 7 think we should keep density low in Fairfax.
Where do you envision people living, Junes?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/05/2009 01:23PM by formerhick76.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
WFB
()
Date: June 05, 2009 01:18PM
What the fuck do you idiots keep electing liberals for then?
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
formerhick76
()
Date: June 05, 2009 01:24PM
WFB Wrote:
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> What the fuck do you idiots keep electing liberals
> for then?
Tell us again what wonders Republicans and 'troo conservatives' did for the country.
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> What the fuck do you idiots keep electing liberals
> for then?
Tell us again what wonders Republicans and 'troo conservatives' did for the country.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 05, 2009 01:32PM
formerhick76 Wrote:
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> Junes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fortunately, most people who live in Reston and
> > drive to work on the Reston Parkway parking lot
> > don't agree with you.
>
> Yes, we can keep everything exactly like it was in
> 1985. I wonder if the people driving on I-66 or
> Route 7 think we should keep density low in
> Fairfax.
>
> Where do you envision people living, Junes
This thread is about RESTON. What happens in Reston has nothing to do with VDOT projects. And it has nothing to do with building out or up the rest of the county - and there are areas that NEED to be redesigned to make better use of space.
BUT ... before they do that the BOS needs to look around at all the vacant houses and condos and office space, before it starts amending the density. Unless the BOS plans to bulldoze under all the foreclosed properties and start over.
Reston however is a very small part of Fairfax County. It is near build-out according to the Master Plan. Princess Catherine wants to amend the Master Plan to increase density and build more condos on top of shops, and pave over green space for facilities we don't need or want.
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> Junes Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fortunately, most people who live in Reston and
> > drive to work on the Reston Parkway parking lot
> > don't agree with you.
>
> Yes, we can keep everything exactly like it was in
> 1985. I wonder if the people driving on I-66 or
> Route 7 think we should keep density low in
> Fairfax.
>
> Where do you envision people living, Junes
This thread is about RESTON. What happens in Reston has nothing to do with VDOT projects. And it has nothing to do with building out or up the rest of the county - and there are areas that NEED to be redesigned to make better use of space.
BUT ... before they do that the BOS needs to look around at all the vacant houses and condos and office space, before it starts amending the density. Unless the BOS plans to bulldoze under all the foreclosed properties and start over.
Reston however is a very small part of Fairfax County. It is near build-out according to the Master Plan. Princess Catherine wants to amend the Master Plan to increase density and build more condos on top of shops, and pave over green space for facilities we don't need or want.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Junes
()
Date: June 05, 2009 01:36PM
formerhick76 Wrote:
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> WFB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What the fuck do you idiots keep electing
> liberals
> > for then?
>
> Tell us again what wonders Republicans and 'troo
> conservatives' did for the country.
Republicans like to use STD funding for roads and transportation projects that benefit the county as a whole.
Liberal Democrats like to use STD funding for projects that no one wants or needs.
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> WFB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What the fuck do you idiots keep electing
> liberals
> > for then?
>
> Tell us again what wonders Republicans and 'troo
> conservatives' did for the country.
Republicans like to use STD funding for roads and transportation projects that benefit the county as a whole.
Liberal Democrats like to use STD funding for projects that no one wants or needs.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 05, 2009 02:26PM
Here can be our anthum we can sing as the buldozers mow over or as we send the Board members to another junket to New York city to select acts to perform in our theater
YouTube - Joan Baez - We shall overcome
4 min 24 sec - Dec 29, 2007 -
"We Shall Overcome," originally derived its lyrics from Charles Tindley's gospel song "I'll Overcome Some Day" (1900), and was the opening and ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNsEH1GD7Q
YouTube - Joan Baez - We shall overcome
4 min 24 sec - Dec 29, 2007 -
"We Shall Overcome," originally derived its lyrics from Charles Tindley's gospel song "I'll Overcome Some Day" (1900), and was the opening and ...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNsEH1GD7Q
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: June 06, 2009 01:19AM
formerhick76 Wrote:
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> > Yes, because we want to maintain our low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or Woodstock?< <
Too late. Employees in the Dulles corridor are already having to live and commute from Martinsburg, WV, Hagerstown, MD and Chambersburg, PA to find a house they can afford on their paycheck.
The exclusionary housing policies of Faifax, Loudoun & PWC force the average family out of those localities by creating artificial scarcity for housing forcing prices to climb to unaffordable levels for the average household.
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> > Yes, because we want to maintain our low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or Woodstock?< <
Too late. Employees in the Dulles corridor are already having to live and commute from Martinsburg, WV, Hagerstown, MD and Chambersburg, PA to find a house they can afford on their paycheck.
The exclusionary housing policies of Faifax, Loudoun & PWC force the average family out of those localities by creating artificial scarcity for housing forcing prices to climb to unaffordable levels for the average household.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
BDC
()
Date: June 06, 2009 02:10PM
You fucking morons vote one party complete power and then are surprised when they use it against you. Ever hear of checks and balances and the loyal opposition? Of course you haven't because you're typical pious but stupid liberals.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: June 06, 2009 09:50PM
BDC Wrote:
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> > You fucking morons vote one party complete power and then are surprised when they use it against you. Ever hear of checks and balances and the loyal opposition? Of course you haven't because you're typical pious but stupid liberals.< <
The exclusionary zoning policies of FFX, Loudoun & PWC have been voted in by D's & R's.
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> > You fucking morons vote one party complete power and then are surprised when they use it against you. Ever hear of checks and balances and the loyal opposition? Of course you haven't because you're typical pious but stupid liberals.< <
The exclusionary zoning policies of FFX, Loudoun & PWC have been voted in by D's & R's.
Re: Is the Reston Community Center governing board very democratic?
Posted by:
Rod
()
Date: June 07, 2009 12:23AM
Thomas More Wrote:
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> formerhick76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Yes, because we want to maintain our
> low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who
> cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or
> Woodstock?< <
>
> Too late. Employees in the Dulles corridor are
> already having to live and commute from
The people of Reston do not have democratic representation. Some here have tried to get incorperation or taxation with representation but we have been defeated by the forces in Fairfax who want to make us a tax golden goose. Reston has twice as many Jobs as dwelings but get no tax advantage making us a kind of colony of Fairfax. I have a dream that some day the people of Reston will have representives that will ....... represent Reston. We will overcome some day!
> Martinsburg, WV, Hagerstown, MD and Chambersburg,
> PA to find a house they can afford on their
> paycheck.
>
> The exclusionary housing policies of Faifax,
> Loudoun & PWC force the average family out of
> those localities by creating artificial scarcity
> for housing forcing prices to climb to
> unaffordable levels for the average household.
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> formerhick76 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Yes, because we want to maintain our
> low-density housing patterns indefinitely. Who
> cares if we have to build out to Martinsburg WV or
> Woodstock?< <
>
> Too late. Employees in the Dulles corridor are
> already having to live and commute from
The people of Reston do not have democratic representation. Some here have tried to get incorperation or taxation with representation but we have been defeated by the forces in Fairfax who want to make us a tax golden goose. Reston has twice as many Jobs as dwelings but get no tax advantage making us a kind of colony of Fairfax. I have a dream that some day the people of Reston will have representives that will ....... represent Reston. We will overcome some day!
> Martinsburg, WV, Hagerstown, MD and Chambersburg,
> PA to find a house they can afford on their
> paycheck.
>
> The exclusionary housing policies of Faifax,
> Loudoun & PWC force the average family out of
> those localities by creating artificial scarcity
> for housing forcing prices to climb to
> unaffordable levels for the average household.