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a right of way question
Posted by: inquiring driver ()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:29PM

Ok i have a driving question, I am pulling out of my road onto a main road with a speed limit of 35, I can see a car about 150/200 yards away so i pull out into the opposite lane, as i am pulling out the other car is doing about 65mph and does not slow down (maryland plates). I had to pull into the incoming lane as the driver speed past, not slowing down, or there would have been a crash.

should i have waited for a completely clear road? and also, did the other driver have the right of way regardless of the speed they were driving at.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:39PM

Road is not clear, and you cannot accurately gauge how fast he was going.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: mj91 ()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:42PM

i dont think it matters how fast he's going, he still has the right of way. figures for some one from maryland though.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: Not from MD ()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:46PM

I doubt the driver was actually a Maryland resident, the person was cheating on taxes..

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: observer ()
Date: May 28, 2009 09:00PM

Technically, the speeding vehicle would forfeit the right of way. However, since the police officer typically wouldn't witness the crash, there has to be some way of proving the speed was unlawful. Also, despite what the law says, some courts tend to believe that a reasonable and prudent person does not pull out in front of a speeding freight train, either. Your best bet here, as always, is to wait until the roadway is clear.


§ 46.2-823. Unlawful speed forfeits right-of-way.

The driver of any vehicle traveling at an unlawful speed shall forfeit any right-of-way which he might otherwise have under this article.

(Code 1950, § 46-238; 1952, c. 666; 1956, c. 533; 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-221; 1985, c. 218; 1989, c. 727.)

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: Lawman ()
Date: May 28, 2009 09:09PM

observer Wrote:
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> Technically, the speeding vehicle would forfeit
> the right of way. However, since the police
> officer typically wouldn't witness the crash,
> there has to be some way of proving the speed was
> unlawful. Also, despite what the law says, some
> courts tend to believe that a reasonable and
> prudent person does not pull out in front of a
> speeding freight train, either. Your best bet
> here, as always, is to wait until the roadway is
> clear.
>
>
> § 46.2-823. Unlawful speed forfeits right-of-way.
>
>
> The driver of any vehicle traveling at an unlawful
> speed shall forfeit any right-of-way which he
> might otherwise have under this article.
>
> (Code 1950, § 46-238; 1952, c. 666; 1956, c. 533;
> 1958, c. 541, § 46.1-221; 1985, c. 218; 1989, c.
> 727.)

Damn I was just typing that up too! But yes, this is correct.


Also, on a personal note regarding this..it is REALLY irritating when someone just pulls out in front of you and takes forever to speed up causing you to have to slow down. Not to mention it is also pretty inconsiderate, yet fairly common around here.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: graymoose1 ()
Date: May 28, 2009 09:54PM

Maybe he had tinted windows and did'nt see you

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: BagODonuts ()
Date: May 28, 2009 10:06PM

observer Wrote:
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However, since the police officer typically wouldn't witness the crash, there has to be some way of proving the speed was unlawful.

There are ways for the cops to tell by how much your car has been destroyed and can calculate the approximate speed of the car that hit you.

BUT...Its a freaking headache to deal with an accident. Just wait to pull out next time. Who knows, guy could be packin some heat and decide that it was just your time to go because you cut him off.

Rules don't work to well on our roads..use your common sense.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: May 28, 2009 10:23PM

The rules not working well has nothing to with the roads and everything to do with the drivers.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: BagODonuts ()
Date: May 28, 2009 10:29PM

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> The rules not working well has nothing to with the
> roads and everything to do with the drivers.

Golly gee beav...I thought it was the roads that had the problem. Never thought it was all of us idiots behind the wheel.

Oh and for you Capt. Obvious:

in⋅fer
  /ɪnˈfɜr/ Show Spelled [in-fur] Show IPA verb, -ferred, -fer⋅ring.
–verb (used with object)

1.to derive by reasoning;

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: May 28, 2009 10:41PM

That was one of the more bitter and unprovoked things I've read in a while, it's nice to see you don't bother to hide that you dislike being alive so much. I have little doubt the people you think are your friends despise you secretly.

Keep in mind pretty much any negative response is going to better prove my point, but hey, go for it. If this is the only way you have to feel better about yourself, I'm not going to take it away. This is the power zone for the hopeless.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: BagODonuts ()
Date: May 28, 2009 10:50PM

I'm not sure I dislike being alive. The Guinness sitting next to me is tasting pretty good.

Eh, maybe my friends do despise me, could be right on that one.

Better about myself...hmmm, I do feel pretty good right now.

Hopeless powerzone...I don't know what it is, but I'm interested in hearing more about it.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: May 29, 2009 08:37AM



@ 1:05

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: pgens ()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:05AM

Lawman Wrote:
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> Also, on a personal note regarding this..it is
> REALLY irritating when someone just pulls out in
> front of you and takes forever to speed up causing
> you to have to slow down. Not to mention it is
> also pretty inconsiderate, yet fairly common
> around here.

True that. I think the term is getting "cut off."

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: inquiring driver ()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:08AM

pgens Wrote:
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> Lawman Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Also, on a personal note regarding this..it is
> > REALLY irritating when someone just pulls out
> in
> > front of you and takes forever to speed up
> causing
> > you to have to slow down. Not to mention it is
> > also pretty inconsiderate, yet fairly common
> > around here.
>
> True that. I think the term is getting "cut off."



piss off, you own the road do you, so on a busy road you wait until there is no traffic before pulling out

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:29AM

inquiring driver Wrote:
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> Ok i have a driving question, I am pulling out of
> my road onto a main road with a speed limit of 35,
> I can see a car about 150/200 yards away so i pull
> out into the opposite lane, as i am pulling out
> the other car is doing about 65mph and does not
> slow down (maryland plates). I had to pull into
> the incoming lane as the driver speed past, not
> slowing down, or there would have been a crash.
>
> should i have waited for a completely clear road?
> and also, did the other driver have the right of
> way regardless of the speed they were driving at.

You wait until the road is clear. You cannot guarantee that the other driver is paying attention or even knows what the fuck they're doing.

I apparently drive like an old man, but I've also avoided quite a few accidents by doing so.

#1 rule of driving: pay more attention to what everyone else is doing.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: Sculler ()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:30AM

Depth perception.

Try it.

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Re: a right of way question
Date: May 29, 2009 10:35AM

He has the right of way, regardless of what reckless asshole thing he might be doing.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:57AM

inquiring driver Wrote:
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> piss off, you own the road do you, so on a busy
> road you wait until there is no traffic before
> pulling out


that is what you are supposed to do...

although i think americans should drive like they do down in mexico... it's insane, but somehow it's so insane that it flows very well.

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Re: a right of way question
Date: May 29, 2009 10:58AM

Actually, this is the kind of question that comes up in the driver's test. Shouldn't everyone who has a license know this?

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: May 29, 2009 11:00AM

just like people are supposed to know solid lines are not to be crossed

there was some stat i heard on the radio yesterday i think about what % of people would pass the test if they were given it now... it was bad whatever the number was.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: scottydfl422 ()
Date: May 29, 2009 11:23AM

bdimag Wrote:
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> >
> there was some stat i heard on the radio yesterday
> i think about what % of people would pass the test
> if they were given it now... it was bad whatever
> the number was.


I heard that too--way less than 50%

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: tinfoil ()
Date: May 29, 2009 11:47AM

are you saying 50% of people would fail the US drivers test. I do not believe it. my test involved driving for 10 (ten) (TEN) minutes. the problem is wankers driving to fast pure and simple

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Re: a right of way question
Date: May 29, 2009 11:52AM

tinfoil Wrote:
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> are you saying 50% of people would fail the US
> drivers test. I do not believe it. my test
> involved driving for 10 (ten) (TEN) minutes. the
> problem is wankers driving to fast pure and simple


I think it is the written test, right?

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: tinfoil ()
Date: May 29, 2009 11:56AM

I did the test on the computer - example question, which arm do you raise to indicate if needed in addition to blinkers (or something) errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

IF I AM SITTING ON THE LEFT THEN............

the question are unbelievably amazingly stupid

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: yep ()
Date: May 29, 2009 12:02PM

tinfoil Wrote:
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> I did the test on the computer - example question,
> which arm do you raise to indicate if needed in
> addition to blinkers (or something)
> errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
> IF I AM SITTING ON THE LEFT THEN............
>
> the question are unbelievably amazingly stupid


Precisely. They need to be dumbed down so that all of our "new neighbors" from Central America can answer the questions through their translators. We wouldn't want to deny them the privilege to drive or anything like that.

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: tinfoil ()
Date: May 29, 2009 12:08PM

yeah or deny them the ability to crash into my car. when are they banning mobile phones in cars here

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: May 29, 2009 01:18PM

stat was definately about written test only

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Re: a right of way question
Posted by: bdimag ()
Date: May 29, 2009 01:23PM


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