I got home from the bar and fell into bed soon after Saturday night bled into Sunday morning. I didn’t wake up until three police officers barged into my apartment, barking their presence at my door. They sped down the hallway to my bedroom, their service pistols drawn and leveled at me.

It was just past 9 a.m., and I was still under the covers. The only visible target was my head.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-iraq-i-raided-insurgents-in-virginia-the-police-raided-me/2015/07/24/2e114e54-2b02-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

Welcome to Fairfax County, Iraq.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

If you had Sub*Zero dishwasher none of this would have happened.

Hmmmm.......... Wrote:
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> If you had Sub*Zero dishwasher none of this would
> have happened.

You just won the interwebz for today.

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

Thanks for sharing...

Best thing I have seen in a long time...

Dang, WAPO is really down on the Fairfax Storm Troopers this week.

“Real change is needed — now,” the report says, criticizing the police for their “lip service to the idea of transparency” on both breaking incidents and routine information requests.

“It is well past time for the Fairfax County Police Department to start providing timely, honest and effective communications with everything it does,” the new report declares. “We deserve nothing less.”


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/07/24/report-fairfax-police-need-real-change-now-in-public-communications/

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“We don’t have any rude, unpleasant people here. We’re different!”

My neighbors had to call the FCPD when one of their kids got out of control on drugs.

Sure, FCPD took the kid away but they also referred the neighbors for hoarding to the code enforcement office.

The so called hoarding was nothing more than the mess in the kid's room. Code enforcement also "decided" that their side door was hard to open.

These poor people ended up spending a chunk of money on a new side door.

We have violent crime on the metro, increased crime in Tysons, several bad neighborhoods in Fairfax. And, the FCPD has time to do hoarding referrals? Code enforcement should be limited to the complaint they get, not given free rain to cover a whole house. Hard to open indeed.

My mom is a teacher and she even hates cops. What goes around comes around, pig should stick to fucking with blacks before they get themselves hurt.

All that because of a suspected squatter? Really? Too bad they can't do that with deadbeats who were former tenants, who are *also* squatters.

You all have a criminal rap sheet longer than your arm and you are whining because the cops did their job.

Waste of life.

America sick of the way cops are doing their job. Cops should work on policing themselves, then maybe people will respect cops like the old days

Posted Today in the FCPD Blotter https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com
Dear Fairfax Community Members:

Recently, an opinion article in a local newspaper submitted by a Fairfax County citizen alleges that on June 14, 2015, patrol officers conducted a “raid” on an apartment in the Alexandria section of the county, in response to a call for service for an unlawful entry – subject inside of a model apartment. Preliminarily, I can assure you no SWAT response was utilized in the response to this call for service. However, the Fairfax County Police Department takes seriously the writer’s remarks and as such, an inquiry by the Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau is being conducted at my direction.

The Fairfax County Police Department places the sanctity of life as a priority in all of our operations and we must assure our community that all efforts to safely resolve calls for service are conducted in a fashion which is consistent with preserving the safety of all involved. The inquiry into this matter will review all the facts and circumstances to determine if the conduct by the officers involved was in compliance with our policies related to all operational conduct in this matter. I will provide an update on our findings at the conclusion of the inquiry.

Sincerely,

Colonel Edwin C. Roessler Jr.

Chief of Police
https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com

Not holding my breath for anything honest or transparent from FCPD

But, but, they're all HEROES! Isn't that what the recent Fairfax games taught us?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-iraq-i-raided-insurgents-in-virginia-the-police-raided-me/2015/07/24/2e114e54-2b02-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html


This is only getting traction because the victim of this police overreaction is a white military veteran that can express himself well.

The cops' response is way too extreme even if the suspected crime was completely true. Their excuses for not contacting management or the site's security guard are laughable. "Suspect could get away" is bullshit.

They could have posted one cop outside the apartment with a bazooka aimed at the door while the other two fired warning shots at the manager and security guard to get their attention.

And what if the suspect got away? It was a motherfucking nonviolent crime. "He could go be a nonviolent criminal somewhere else!!!!" Do they really need to risk the suspect's life and their own lives here? Why don't they stop and fucking think?

If the guy had a dog it would be dead.

What if it was a squatter and he was a war veteran with PTSD? What if it was a crazy homeless guy? Waking up to yelling and guns could make a twitchy hobo blow the fuck up.

the article Wrote:
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> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-iraq-i-
> raided-insurgents-in-virginia-the-police-raided-me
> /2015/07/24/2e114e54-2b02-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_s
> tory.html
>
>
> This is only getting traction because the victim
> of this police overreaction is a white military
> veteran that can express himself well.
>

exactly; and that’s a good thing.



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the article Wrote:
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> What if it was a squatter and he was a war veteran
> with PTSD? What if it was a crazy homeless guy?
> Waking up to yelling and guns could make a twitchy
> hobo blow the fuck up.


As I understand it, the neighbors reported a possible squatter. Unless there was other information the police were considering, they must have been expecting a homeless person. So, why would they go through all of that for a squatter? Does a homeless person present that much of a threat? I’m not that afraid of a homeless person. Should I be? Seriously doubting any of that, I’m wondering if the police take advantage of these opportunities for practice. Is that possible?

Dane Bramage Wrote:
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> I got home from the bar and fell into bed soon
> after Saturday night bled into Sunday morning. I
> didn’t wake up until three police officers
> barged into my apartment, barking their presence
> at my door. They sped down the hallway to my
> bedroom, their service pistols drawn and leveled
> at me.
>
> It was just past 9 a.m., and I was still under the
> covers. The only visible target was my head.
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-iraq-i-
> raided-insurgents-in-virginia-the-police-raided-me
> /2015/07/24/2e114e54-2b02-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_s
> tory.html
>
> Welcome to Fairfax County, Iraq.


So is the "Squatter" a Spic or a Nog?

causeican Wrote:
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> Posted Today in the FCPD Blotter
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com
> Dear Fairfax Community Members:
>
> Recently, an opinion article in a local newspaper
> submitted by a Fairfax County citizen alleges that
> on June 14, 2015, patrol officers conducted a
> “raid” on an apartment in the Alexandria
> section of the county, in response to a call for
> service for an unlawful entry – subject inside
> of a model apartment. Preliminarily, I can assure
> you no SWAT response was utilized in the response
> to this call for service. However, the Fairfax
> County Police Department takes seriously the
> writer’s remarks and as such, an inquiry by the
> Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau is being
> conducted at my direction.
>
> The Fairfax County Police Department places the
> sanctity of life as a priority in all of our
> operations and we must assure our community that
> all efforts to safely resolve calls for service
> are conducted in a fashion which is consistent
> with preserving the safety of all involved. The
> inquiry into this matter will review all the facts
> and circumstances to determine if the conduct by
> the officers involved was in compliance with our
> policies related to all operational conduct in
> this matter. I will provide an update on our
> findings at the conclusion of the inquiry.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Colonel Edwin C. Roessler Jr.
>
> Chief of Police
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com


The author of the article didn't say it was a SWAT raid. He said a bunch of cops came into his apartment and pointed their guns at him because he might have been squatting in the apartment.

The question is should the cops have drawn their guns and pointed them at a person who might be squatting in an apartment. Any reasonable person would say no.

You bang on the door, announce yourself as police officers, and wait for the door to open and you ask questions.

The article and deaths involving FCPD lead me to the conclusion that the FCPD should only be called when someone is deserving of death. Calling them otherwise may lead to the death of an innocent person.

Hmmmmmm.......... Wrote:
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> Dane Bramage Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I got home from the bar and fell into bed soon
> > after Saturday night bled into Sunday morning.
> I
> > didn’t wake up until three police officers
> > barged into my apartment, barking their
> presence
> > at my door. They sped down the hallway to my
> > bedroom, their service pistols drawn and
> leveled
> > at me.
> >
> > It was just past 9 a.m., and I was still under
> the
> > covers. The only visible target was my head.
> >
> >
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-iraq-i-
>
> >
> raided-insurgents-in-virginia-the-police-raided-me
>
> >
> /2015/07/24/2e114e54-2b02-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_s
>
> > tory.html
> >
> > Welcome to Fairfax County, Iraq.
>
>
> So is the "Squatter" a Spic or a Nog?

Are you a pig or a dick?

Fun fact: You can smoke a pig during a no knock, and walk.

Case law, multiple times, in Texas.

gobsmacked Wrote:
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> The article and deaths involving FCPD lead me to
> the conclusion that the FCPD should only be called
> when someone is deserving of death. Calling them
> otherwise may lead to the death of an innocent
> person.


I know! The neighbors who called the police probably thought “Damn! I didn’t want that to happen...” The police probably terrorized the whole neighborhood.

What's so surprising about this article is that the Fairfax cops got off their lazy asses and postponed their typical 10 over the speed limit (county revenue generation) on Ffx Co Pkwy. That's all they're good for normally.

I first want to thank Mr Horton for his service. But he did not like what the Fairfax Police did and he also did not like what the Army did when he was serving. He went on to put down the US Park Police. Seems he does not like authority at all.

Yes the Police are a para military organization. Sounded like the Police were acting on information from a resident.

Now let me ask what would everyone say if the Police waited called the management on weekend. Now while they were waiting Mr Horton home had been broken into since he left his front door unlocked. The people who committed the crime then got away. What would everyone be saying?

Now I wonder if Mr Horton ever entered a home of a law abiding citizen while serving overseas? UMM so did they call the White House to complain?

Guess you can not please everyone. I am glad we have our Police department.

causeican Wrote:
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> Posted Today in the FCPD Blotter
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com
> Dear Fairfax Community Members:
>
> Recently, an opinion article in a local newspaper
> submitted by a Fairfax County citizen alleges that
> on June 14, 2015, patrol officers conducted a
> “raid” on an apartment in the Alexandria
> section of the county, in response to a call for
> service for an unlawful entry – subject inside
> of a model apartment. Preliminarily, I can assure
> you no SWAT response was utilized in the response
> to this call for service. However, the Fairfax
> County Police Department takes seriously the
> writer’s remarks and as such, an inquiry by the
> Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau is being
> conducted at my direction.
>
> The Fairfax County Police Department places the
> sanctity of life as a priority in all of our
> operations and we must assure our community that
> all efforts to safely resolve calls for service
> are conducted in a fashion which is consistent
> with preserving the safety of all involved. The
> inquiry into this matter will review all the facts
> and circumstances to determine if the conduct by
> the officers involved was in compliance with our
> policies related to all operational conduct in
> this matter. I will provide an update on our
> findings at the conclusion of the inquiry.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Colonel Edwin C. Roessler Jr.
>
> Chief of Police
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com


Why only "preliminarily" (is that a word?) can he assure us a "SWAT response" was not used?

Why not absolutely, without reservation? Is he awaiting more information to find out if a SWAT response was used?

And who said anything about a SWAT response being used in the first place?

I want to know if the spic who murdered that unarmed guy standing in the door of his house was in on this.

read between the lines Wrote:
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> I first want to thank Mr Horton for his service.
> But he did not like what the Fairfax Police did
> and he also did not like what the Army did when he
> was serving. He went on to put down the US Park
> Police. Seems he does not like authority at all.
>
> Yes the Police are a para military organization.
> Sounded like the Police were acting on information
> from a resident.
>
> Now let me ask what would everyone say if the
> Police waited called the management on weekend.
> Now while they were waiting Mr Horton home had
> been broken into since he left his front door
> unlocked. The people who committed the crime then
> got away. What would everyone be saying?
>
> Now I wonder if Mr Horton ever entered a home of a
> law abiding citizen while serving overseas? UMM so
> did they call the White House to complain?
>
> Guess you can not please everyone. I am glad we
> have our Police department.

My guess is Mr. Horton served in the rear since he has no concept of going into a unknown situation and being prepared for any contingency.

Hey Attention Whore, it sounds like you are in favor of FCPD pointing pistols at a driver when initially approaching a car during traffic stop because they don't know if the driver has a weapon. That's the only way FCPD could be "prepared for any contingency".

Perhaps the situation isn't so simple as putting the officer's safety above all else. Police forces can't do their jobs without the support of the civilians. Tactics like those used on Mr. Horton create distrust and fear, and ultimately lead to a more dangerous society.

Gobsmacked Wrote:
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> Hey Attention Whore, it sounds like you are in
> favor of FCPD pointing pistols at a driver when
> initially approaching a car during traffic stop
> because they don't know if the driver has a
> weapon. That's the only way FCPD could be
> "prepared for any contingency".
>
> Perhaps the situation isn't so simple as putting
> the officer's safety above all else. Police forces
> can't do their jobs without the support of the
> civilians. Tactics like those used on Mr. Horton
> create distrust and fear, and ultimately lead to a
> more dangerous society.

+1

Dear Attention Whore,

What is your badge number?

Thank you,
Law Abiding Citizen

Well written article that happens to 100% wrong.
Military service and tactics can not be compared to police service.
His ending statement that "service" means you should sacrifice your safety for the public is outrageous and completely ridiculous.