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Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Fire Hazard? ()
Date: July 14, 2015 02:40PM

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The illegals on my street who rent rooms/basement to other illegals were unloading kitchen appliances this past weekend.
Instead of carrying the appliances through the front door they carried the appliances around the house, down the back steps and entered through the basement door.

I thought one had to ask permission from the county before installing kitchen appliances inside a bedroom or a basement?
Aren't there voltage requirements for large refrigerators, ovens, stoves and shit like that?

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: you could call the County ()
Date: July 14, 2015 02:43PM

They have a code complaint office. But that office also positioned itself to take calls on all county matters, such as trash collection and signs in foreign languages. So you might not get attention but you could try. They are also very busy making sure everyone cuts their grass.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Nice Guy Eddie ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:17PM

There are also laws about how many non-related people can live in a house and not using living rooms for bedrooms. Contact Supervisor John Cook's office. He was big in getting those laws enforced during his days as president of the Kings Park Civic Association.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: some people are fools ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:22PM

Cook can't do crap outside of his own district. You just have to hope the code office isn't buried under calls about broken sewer pipes or something.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: NotIllegal ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:24PM

Their are also a decent amount of laws against the Illegals kidnapping and raping other people, but you don't see them following those laws do you?

We should probably give them free college tuition.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Asshole Detector ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:43PM

How do you know that the appliance(s) have been installed? Perhaps they are just storing it for future use. Why don't you mind your own fucking business, and look after the things that should be important to you - Like the black men your wife is fucking.

People like you make me sick. If you have a concern about something going on in your neighborhood, why are you too much of a pussy to go and see for yourself.

Grow a pair you asshole, and be a man for once in your life.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Libs gonna lib. ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:46PM

Asshole Detector Wrote:
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> How do you know that the appliance(s) have been
> installed? Perhaps they are just storing it for
> future use. Why don't you mind your own fucking
> business, and look after the things that should be
> important to you - Like the black men your wife is
> fucking.
>
> People like you make me sick. If you have a
> concern about something going on in your
> neighborhood, why are you too much of a pussy to
> go and see for yourself.
>
> Grow a pair you asshole, and be a man for once in
> your life.

Libs gonna lib.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: whiteoppressor ()
Date: July 14, 2015 03:50PM

Like most minor laws in America - they only apply to US citizens. Immigrants and especially illegal immigrants are not expected to comply with such civil codes. Please go away - no one cares...

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Oh Boy... ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:21PM

There are several zoning/code compliance issues going on here...

1. You are not allowed to have more than four unrelated adults in a residential property in fairfax County. Of course, they will all claim that they're related. I don't know how closely the county checks this out.

2. There are lots of regulations about egress, window size, etc. in a basement rental unit in Fairfax county. This is to protect the tenant in the event of an emergency, like a fire.

3. You are not allowed to have a second cooktop (e.g., stove) in Fairfax County - unless you get a special permit - which you won't be able to get in a rental property.

4. Any electrical and plumbing work done to accommodate this stuff needs a permit.

This property probably has tons of violations going on. Call the county - now.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Sad Little Loser ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:24PM

Asshole Detector Wrote:
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> How do you know that the appliance(s) have been
> installed? Perhaps they are just storing it for
> future use. Why don't you mind your own fucking
> business, and look after the things that should be
> important to you - Like the black men your wife is
> fucking.
>
> People like you make me sick. If you have a
> concern about something going on in your
> neighborhood, why are you too much of a pussy to
> go and see for yourself.
>
> Grow a pair you asshole, and be a man for once in
> your life.

There are zoning rules for a reason - mostly to keep out fucking assholes like you.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: dumbass libturdz. ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:44PM

Wait until Obama busses ghetto thugs into your uppity, lib neighborhood to live in a subsidised home. You libs are fucking idiots.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Toothless Tiger ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:49PM

Oh Boy... Wrote:
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> There are several zoning/code compliance issues
> going on here...
>
> 1. You are not allowed to have more than four
> unrelated adults in a residential property in
> fairfax County. Of course, they will all claim
> that they're related. I don't know how closely the
> county checks this out.

The County used to ask people to draw family trees. This got challenged in court. The person charged brought a social anthropologist as expert witness, the County inspector got shredded on cross examination; he could not draw his OWN family tree, let alone answer questions about Spanish family names.

So they have backed off on this one.

>
> 2. There are lots of regulations about egress,
> window size, etc. in a basement rental unit in
> Fairfax county. This is to protect the tenant in
> the event of an emergency, like a fire.
>

Yeah but the fly by night guys at HD will install a window for cheap.

> 3. You are not allowed to have a second cooktop
> (e.g., stove) in Fairfax County - unless you get a
> special permit - which you won't be able to get in
> a rental property.

Get an electric stove, disconnect it when not in use, say it is being stored down there.

>
> 4. Any electrical and plumbing work done to
> accommodate this stuff needs a permit.

Easily arranged through the HD parking lot.

>
> This property probably has tons of violations
> going on. Call the county - now.

When they show up, ask them if they have a warrant. That takes them a lot of work to get, and they don't always get it.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: dumbass libturdz. ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:54PM

Um, the supreme Court recently ruled that zoning and occupancy laws are discriminatory. Where have you libs been. You're going to celebrate the diversity all right, watching your daughter get raped by your MS13 neighbor.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Bring it down ()
Date: July 14, 2015 04:57PM

MS-13 members have rights - That is a racist statement.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: hugo black ()
Date: July 14, 2015 05:19PM

dumbass libturdz. Wrote:
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> Um, the supreme Court recently ruled that zoning
> and occupancy laws are discriminatory. Where have
> you libs been. You're going to celebrate the
> diversity all right, watching your daughter get
> raped by your MS13 neighbor.

Would you care to provide more details? The Court simply decided not to gut the 1968 Fair Housing Act.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: dumbass libturdz. ()
Date: July 14, 2015 05:39PM

hugo black Wrote:
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> dumbass libturdz. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Um, the supreme Court recently ruled that
> zoning
> > and occupancy laws are discriminatory. Where
> have
> > you libs been. You're going to celebrate the
> > diversity all right, watching your daughter get
> > raped by your MS13 neighbor.
>
> Would you care to provide more details? The Court
> simply decided not to gut the 1968 Fair Housing
> Act.

Oh, I forgot. Lib media does not report news.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: So Much Stupid ()
Date: July 14, 2015 07:14PM

dumbass libturdz. Wrote:
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> Um, the supreme Court recently ruled that zoning
> and occupancy laws are discriminatory. Where have
> you libs been. You're going to celebrate the
> diversity all right, watching your daughter get
> raped by your MS13 neighbor.

No it didn't, you moron. Is that what Rush told you?

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Idiots ()
Date: July 14, 2015 08:06PM

Why does everyone spend so much time name-calling and stereotyping? You're just showing your ignorance. We are all getting ass-raped by the elites. Why don't you crack open a book sometime and learn about how institutionalized racism is a ploy to keep us 'middling' classes fighting and unfocused. Ugh!

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Hc6GK ()
Date: July 15, 2015 01:23PM

> 3. You are not allowed to have a second cooktop
> (e.g., stove) in Fairfax County - unless you get a
> special permit - which you won't be able to get in
> a rental property.

absolutely untrue. "need county permission to finish basement"

absolutely full of crap dont listen to this persons lies

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: PLxvj ()
Date: July 15, 2015 01:27PM

sure there are some things that generally should be left to proffessionals

however that has zero to do with whether or not "its' allowed"

before certain work is done perhaps a permit is gotten: HOWEVER, unlike in a facist europe country, in the USA they have no special power to "deny a permit"

the county is not a top down ruler who has a right permit any and all work they please and deny permits, no

they can ask plans be filed, and certain plans they might demand an engineer glance at for a reasonable fee, yes

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Nice Guy Eddie ()
Date: July 15, 2015 01:42PM

some people are fools Wrote:
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> Cook can't do crap outside of his own district.
> You just have to hope the code office isn't buried
> under calls about broken sewer pipes or something.

No but he can advise you on the law and what you can do about it.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: illegals gonna illegal ()
Date: July 15, 2015 01:53PM

illegals gonna illegal

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Date: July 15, 2015 02:05PM

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: iLester ()
Date: July 15, 2015 02:06PM

Second kitchens - call Code Compliance or ask homeowner to see a permit

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/askfairfax/archive/ArchiveDiscussion.aspx?roomid=85

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Oh Yeah? ()
Date: July 15, 2015 02:25PM

Hc6GK Wrote:
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> > 3. You are not allowed to have a second cooktop
> > (e.g., stove) in Fairfax County - unless you get
> a
> > special permit - which you won't be able to get
> in
> > a rental property.
>
> absolutely untrue. "need county permission to
> finish basement"
>
> absolutely full of crap dont listen to this
> persons lies

fairfax county.gov - when a permit is required...

"A permit is required for...interior alterations (including finished basements)...new plumbing fixtures...new electric appliances..."

fairfaxcounty.gov - faqs - basement...

"There are usually three permits required when finishing a basement: building, plumbing, and electrical."

DROdio real estate...

Can I have two kitchens in my home in Fairfax County? Is it a zoning violation?

The short answer: maybe.

The long answer: You can have two kitchens as long as there is only one burner in the home. Burners can be defined as stoves or cook tops. So if you have an in-law-suite in the basement with a refrigerator, sink, cabinets, etc., you're fine. But if you have a burner in the second kitchen, AND you're making rental income off of the space with the second kitchen, then the property is considered a multi-family dwelling, which is not allowed in a single family zoning, and will require separate certificate of occupation for that space.

So, to recap, the permitting department will frown upon your second burner but it will only become a true violation when you start to make rental income from the space with the second kitchen and burner.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: July 16, 2015 09:28PM

Sad Little Loser Wrote:
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> Asshole Detector Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How do you know that the appliance(s) have been
> > installed? Perhaps they are just storing it for
> > future use. Why don't you mind your own fucking
> > business, and look after the things that should
> be
> > important to you - Like the black men your wife
> is
> > fucking.
> >
> > People like you make me sick. If you have a
> > concern about something going on in your
> > neighborhood, why are you too much of a pussy
> to
> > go and see for yourself.
> >
> > Grow a pair you asshole, and be a man for once
> in
> > your life.
>
> There are zoning rules for a reason - mostly to
> keep out fucking assholes like you.

There are immigration laws too. Mostly to protect our citizens. But....

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: yE9Y7 ()
Date: July 16, 2015 10:17PM

dont customize your panel. buy the right panel. make sure your electric company agrees the extra load is switched, first

BORING

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Jim Jones from Puto ()
Date: July 16, 2015 11:08PM

Call code enforcement if you think there is a problem related to too many people living in a residence. Fairfax County Ordinances are posted on their web site and they are pretty clear.

Our condominium complex had these types of problems and we had code enforcement come by and perform about 15-20 exorcisms. One unit had 15 people in a 1 bedroom. So we humanitarian reasons if no other, make the call.

As far as appliances are concerned, there are rules, laws, etc. Let him burn his house down if chooses to ignore. Then the insurance will not pay because he improperly installed them or did not install per code. If everything is above board (and you don't really that do you), and permits were pulled then the property owner is covered as long as the work was inspected and signed off.

I've been through this before with family. They should have listened.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: problem solver ()
Date: July 18, 2015 03:42PM

OP is a white man trying to live in the Hispanic mans hood. Sell and move to a white hood and I don't mean the one hanging in your closet.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: mvEdK ()
Date: July 19, 2015 10:09PM

^^ he said house not condo. don't change the question.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: VG6mU ()
Date: July 19, 2015 10:13PM

the firedept does have readiness plans for every building

however for a home they just assume you might have a dryer, maybe oil or gas, in a basement


now as far as gas, it collects in the basement. so even if there is no "code" you have to be aware that ventillatio MUST remove both unburned and burned gasses



that follows from the fact you cant have a garage near a basement, since the gases seep through firewalls into basements

i doubt you have a basement you'd put a stove in, which didn't have a hood for the stove and air registers with draft connected to the rest of the house

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: 74FVP ()
Date: July 19, 2015 10:14PM

unlike my furnace - which if the wind flows right puts gases back into the basement ....

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Optional opt out ()
Date: July 20, 2015 05:42AM

We live in Fairfax Station and did a basement with permits. We added an egress window before it was required. I wanted a second kitchen in the basement for holiday cooking.

I could not get a permit --- the county was concerned it could be used a second living unit, even though there was not a separate entrance for the space.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Updates? ()
Date: November 07, 2016 02:19AM

Did something change recently in September regarding this question? Could a family have a really big house with three stoves in Fairfax county?

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: causeican ()
Date: November 07, 2016 05:49AM

whiteoppressor Wrote:
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> Like most minor laws in America - they only apply
> to US citizens. Immigrants and especially illegal
> immigrants are not expected to comply with such
> civil codes.

The end justifies the means, brought to us by our own POTUS. If he can do it, we can too! Thanks Obama. The NEW America!!

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Colin-Cap-A-Nigga ()
Date: November 07, 2016 07:45AM

Any laws that would negatively impact illegals are ignored in Fairfax county.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Mind your own! ()
Date: November 07, 2016 10:07AM

Mind your own fucking business!

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Unaccompanied Alien Children ()
Date: November 07, 2016 11:46AM

Colin-Cap-A-Nigga Wrote:
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> Any laws that would negatively impact illegals are
> ignored in Fairfax county.


^^^^
THIS

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 07, 2016 12:55PM

I have a friend who lives in the basement of a house. The owner has 4 tenants living in the basement, and set up a kitchen there - a refrigerator, freezer sink, a hot plate and a microwave. There isn't even a range/stove/oven and the cop, who had to go there because of a fight between two of the tenants, said it was illegal, the way she had set it up.

So, yes, I think it is illegal to install kitchen appliances in a basement.

But, yeah, like others have said, will cops actually enforce such a law.



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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:28PM

dumbass libturdz. Wrote:
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> Wait until Obama busses ghetto thugs into your
> uppity, lib neighborhood to live in a subsidised
> home. You libs are fucking idiots.

Actually, Fairfax County already places some Section 8 'families' in single family houses in middle class neighborhoods.

In the neighborhood I grew up in, a single mother (black American) was placed in a rental house.

The owner was either a lib. or had problems finding renters.

The house was not in great shape, but the neighborhood, although 'older', is still solidly middle class.

The lady seemed nice, but many members of her extended family often showed up and stayed there for extended periods of time.

She had a few kids, but at times there were as many as 10 kids running around the neighborhood. She was obviously watching friends and/or relatives kids and letting them stay overnight.

One time, a bunch of them ran around and rode bikes in my dad's yard after a rainstorm. They left tracks all over the yard.

My brother, another time, who was living with my dad, caught a couple of black teenagers trying to look in my dad's glove compartment. Obviously, they came from the Section 8 house.

Another time, a guy parked an 18 wheeler outside the house for the WHOLE Thanksgiving weekend. He blocked one side of an already narrow road.

I saw cop cars outside the house at least four or five times in a span of a couple of years. Onetime, I saw 5 or 6 cop cars outside at one time.

Another time, A neighbor had to call the cops after one of the kids came over into his yard and cussed and yelled at his little girl.

Finally, the owner decided to sell the house to a Realor, who planned to fix it up and resell it for a profit.

When the Section 8 housing family found out, they trashed the place.

Section 8 housing leads to higher crime rates, a drain on the tax base, and declining schools.

if it must exist, at least relegate it to apartments along major highways.

To put Section 8 people into otherwise nice middle class neighborhoods is just dumb policy.



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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: johnson ()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:43PM

It's my understanding that more than one cooking device (stove/range/oven) indicates that there is more than one "family" occupying a property zoned as single-family occupancy so it is a zoning violation.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: November 07, 2016 01:58PM

phelpsmarc Wrote:
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> Actually, Fairfax County already places some
> Section 8 'families' in single family houses in
> middle class neighborhoods.
>

Actually they don't. Fairfax County administers the program, but it is the property owners who decides whether to place their properties in the program. Also technically it is no longer Section 8. It is the housing choice voucher program.

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Re: Is it legal for people to install kitchen appliances in their basements? Doesnt one have to ask a permit from the county before they do something like that?
Posted by: phelpsmarc ()
Date: November 07, 2016 04:02PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> phelpsmarc Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Actually, Fairfax County already places some
> > Section 8 'families' in single family houses in
> > middle class neighborhoods.
> >
>
> Actually they don't. Fairfax County administers
> the program, but it is the property owners who
> decides whether to place their properties in the
> program. Also technically it is no longer Section
> 8. It is the housing choice voucher program.

Semantics

I indicated the property owner may be allowed to choose, but Fairfax County makes it an option. Without the existence of the program and the county's okay, a homeowner couldn't do it.

I don't care what the official name of the program is. Changing the name doesn't change the concept and the negative effects of the program on a given community - some of which I detailed in my example.

Typical Lib nitpicking, without invalidating the core of my argument.



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