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Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Donna ()
Date: July 24, 2006 10:52PM

I was sued by my lawyer, Phillip Leiser, for breach of contract. Of course, I did not breach the contract and probably neither did the other 57 people he sued making the same claim. In my case, he lied about the representation he would provide. I am not a person who doesn't pay my bills and I certainly did not owe him any more than the amount I paid. THe legal system, however, is not geared for the pro se litigant and he won -- with the exception that the judge ordered that $1K be returned to me for errors made on his part and for which I was billed. In any case, he has verbally assaulted calling me a number of not so nice names -- this assault was so bad that I had to ask a sherrif's deputy to accompany me on the elevator -- from where Phillip escaped on the very next floor. He was intimated by the presence of the deputy -- Now, I am suing his law firm for violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act. I filed, pro se, in general district court but he had it removed to circuit court. What a mess -- I'll probably lose but I certainly am giving it a fighting chance.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Adam ()
Date: July 24, 2006 10:57PM

Good Luck!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 24, 2006 11:01PM

>..but I certainly am giving it a fighting chance.

Posting on an internet forum is always a solid first step in 'giving it a fighting chance', good luck dude you're on your way to victory!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Donna ()
Date: July 24, 2006 11:02PM

I'm certain I will need luck...the good news is that I have a letter from the Commonwealth Office of the Atty Gen that states that law firms are not exempt from the consumer law -- the judges and lawyers seem to believe that law firms are, in fact exempt. I think the judge will tell me to go home and with that, I have the ear of a powerful consumer group who will take it up on appeal. While I would like to win on the merits of my complaint, it is more important that the right to bring the action is successful for that will set precedence in the Commonwealth.....

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Hehe ()
Date: July 25, 2006 08:01AM

next she is gonna get taken to court for posting about it on this forum

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Lurker ()
Date: July 25, 2006 10:18AM

Report it to the Virginia Bar Assc. They will take all of your information and decide if there needs to be action taken against the lawyer.

http://www.vsb.org/

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 25, 2006 11:05AM

Donna Wrote:
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> I was sued by my lawyer, Phillip Leiser, for
> breach of contract. Of course, I did not breach
> the contract and probably neither did the other 57
> people he sued making the same claim. In my case,
> he lied about the representation he would provide.
> I am not a person who doesn't pay my bills and I
> certainly did not owe him any more than the amount
> I paid. THe legal system, however, is not geared
> for the pro se litigant and he won -- with the
> exception that the judge ordered that $1K be
> returned to me for errors made on his part and for
> which I was billed. In any case, he has verbally
> assaulted calling me a number of not so nice names
> -- this assault was so bad that I had to ask a
> sherrif's deputy to accompany me on the elevator
> -- from where Phillip escaped on the very next
> floor. He was intimated by the presence of the
> deputy -- Now, I am suing his law firm for
> violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act.
> I filed, pro se, in general district court but he
> had it removed to circuit court. What a mess --
> I'll probably lose but I certainly am giving it a
> fighting chance.


Ever hear of slander? Or libel? Frankly, you could win your case and still get your ass sued over posting this. If I were Cary, I would pull this off the board now, since he could be dragged into the impending suit this guy is going to file against you.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: § ()
Date: July 25, 2006 11:24AM

This would be classified as libel by posting here, but he'd have to prove his reputation was damaged (you've already satisfied the first criteria of public dissemination via blog). It's impossible for any damages expert to assess. And yes, Cary you could be subpoenaed.

I agree that you should consider filing a complaint with the bar association. If his actions are egregious, then they have the power to suspend or fine him regardless of the outcome of your case. Good luck. -§

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 25, 2006 11:32AM

§ Wrote:
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> This would be classified as libel by posting here,
> but he'd have to prove his reputation was damaged
> (you've already satisfied the first criteria of
> public dissemination via blog). It's impossible
> for any damages expert to assess. And yes, Cary
> you could be subpoenaed.
>
> I agree that you should consider filing a
> complaint with the bar association. If his
> actions are egregious, then they have the power to
> suspend or fine him regardless of the outcome of
> your case. Good luck. -§


The guy doesn't have to have a case to f-k with people. He can still file a suit and make this gal spend dough she probably doesn't have trying to defend herself.

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Donna Question
Posted by: ? ()
Date: July 25, 2006 12:02PM

You never mentioned what this was about. What was the case about?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: In Need of a Lawyer ()
Date: July 25, 2006 01:36PM

I for one, will not be contacting this law firm now. Whether this is true or not, why take a chance with contacting this lawyer when there are hundreds of others that can take my case??

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: July 25, 2006 01:42PM

it's not libel if it's the truth.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: jake ()
Date: July 25, 2006 01:45PM

If you would of called him names back then you would both be even and you wouldn't have to worry about filing all these new cases. Kids these days...

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Fairfax MF-er ()
Date: July 25, 2006 02:25PM

Gravis Wrote:
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> it's not libel if it's the truth.


No. It's not libel if you can prove it's the truth. You have to go through an expensive trial to do that, and you still might lose.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Dude ()
Date: July 25, 2006 03:05PM

I see we got big law terms flying around.

NICE

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: § ()
Date: July 25, 2006 03:08PM

WashingToneLocian Wrote:
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> § Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This would be classified as libel by posting
> here,
> > but he'd have to prove his reputation was
> damaged
> > (you've already satisfied the first criteria of
> > public dissemination via blog). It's
> impossible
> > for any damages expert to assess. And yes,
> Cary
> > you could be subpoenaed.
> >
> > I agree that you should consider filing a
> > complaint with the bar association. If his
> > actions are egregious, then they have the power
> to
> > suspend or fine him regardless of the outcome
> of
> > your case. Good luck. -§
>
>
> The guy doesn't have to have a case to f-k with
> people. He can still file a suit and make this gal
> spend dough she probably doesn't have trying to
> defend herself.


That's true. Besides income potential, it's the main reason why people decide to be lawyers. Revenge. -§

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: July 25, 2006 05:43PM

When the latin starts flying free on an FFX Underground legal thread, you should strongly consider ending your affiliation with the thread and actually hiring a lawyer.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: mad max, JD ()
Date: July 25, 2006 09:46PM

res ipsa loquitur

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: The Economist22 ()
Date: July 25, 2006 11:18PM

hahahaha suing fairfaxunderground.com ? that'll be the day... hahahaha. seems like just about everyone who doesn't like what gets said on here threatens to sue. NEWSFLASH: The suing fad went out about 5 years ago!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: § ()
Date: July 26, 2006 11:00AM

The Economist22 Wrote:
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> hahahaha suing fairfaxunderground.com ? that'll be
> the day... hahahaha. seems like just about
> everyone who doesn't like what gets said on here
> threatens to sue. NEWSFLASH: The suing fad went
> out about 5 years ago!

You missed the point. FFX UG is only likely to be subpoenaed in this matter, not sued. I hardly believe anything will come of it anyway. -§

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Law Firm Issues
Posted by: oriondlf ()
Date: July 27, 2006 12:40PM

Me again. Well, I certainly didn't intend to be libelous so I re-read what I wrote. I honestly don't see anything that can be constued as libel. For the record --- he both wrote and yelled at me the following: You are stupid, you are so ugly no man would marry you, you are so ugly no man would ever have children with you, you have a fat ass, you are a liar, you are a deadbeat, you should sue your plastic surgeon, I'm going to ruin your credit --- my response to him -- everything probably looks big from down there and, when he approached me in the hallway adjacent to the courtroom and was taunting me with his venom I said to him, "Shoo, you gnat". I reported this to the Bar and they said that this behavior was not unethical. In my line of work -- I would be in all sorts of trouble for talking like this -- but --- it is not unethical for lawyers according to the Virginia Bar. BTW -- I would not be considered overweight or ugly by any standards.....and I can prove that!!!!

Back to libel....It would be a very sad day when we are silenced as to expressing our opinions and points of view in any venue. My experience with this lawyer is as was stated by me and I would never do anything to jeopardize my livelihood or my reputation as a respectable member of society nor would I want to drag anyone else into that quagmire. That being said, if whomever runs this site feels it is in his/her best interest to pull this thread, please feel free to do so --- I won't take it personally and, having been dragged through the legal system, I would completely understand.



Someone asked what the case was about.....please.....it is lengthy and detailed so, those who aren't interested...stop reading here - cause it is lengthy and possibly boring....

Since April 2002, I have been dragged through the legal system mill when, on that fateful day, while driving to work, I was covertly followed into the Metro Parking garage at Springfield station and was assaulted by a screaming woman. She was yelling and flailing about screaming that I had cut her off on Beulah -- I told her that I hadn't any idea what she was talking about and I continued to walk away. She followed me, continuing to scream at me and calling me names. She was a step or two behind me and off to my right. She ultimately called me a horrible name and I turned to her and asked exactly how old she was, being surprised to hear that talk from an adult, seeingly professional woman. At that, she had a bag filled with books and shoes and swung it from behind her and hit me in the face. The impact threw me back and my front tooth was dislodged. I screamed and she attacked me again. I had recently had surgery and the assault tore some incisions. She left the area in her car but several people came to my aid. Someone wrote her tag number down and others called 911. Her name was Nadine Huff and she ultimately went to jail on criminal charges. I had to wear braces for a year, I had to have a root canal and, ultimately, lost that front tooth. I had to have surgery on my lip and physical therapy for the whip lash caused by the blow. I sued her in civil court and my lawyer made errors. I did win but a much lesser amount ($18K, of which I had to pay my lawyer and other fees so I was left with $10K which was some $11K shy of my medical expenses). I went after that lawyer for mishandling my suit and, specifically, for failing to include the medical bills that were provided to him by various surgeons and dental professionals. His failure to include these items resulted in us not being able to prove the damages which resulted in me getting a much reduced amount. Leiser was working my case against this lawyer, but, due to a disagreement with his contract and billing practices, I asked that Leiser and Associates remove themselves from representing me. They did so and I continued, pro se ---there were filings and motions and then the depositions --- the defendant deposed the woman who assaulted me --- and --- she backed up my story. That put an end to this legal battle and I was satisfied!!!!

Then, Leiser and Associates came after me saying I owed them more money and I disagreed. Thus my continuing saga.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Chris ()
Date: July 27, 2006 01:04PM

Wow... People are fucking nuts over traffic... I mean I would be pissed if someone cut me off (not saying you did) but I certainly wouldn't follow and confront the bozo.

Glad to hear she did some time on criminal charges.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: brian703 ()
Date: July 27, 2006 01:23PM

Looks like she drives like an idiot, too:

"HUFF ","NADINE ","F","051"," 4600","TARPON ","LA","ALEXANDRIA ","VA","01/14/2004","IMPROPER LANE CHANGE "

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Re: Law Firm Issues
Posted by: Cary ()
Date: July 27, 2006 03:44PM

oriondlf Wrote:
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> That being said, if whomever runs this
> site feels it is in his/her best interest to pull
> this thread, please feel free to do so --- I won't
> take it personally and, having been dragged
> through the legal system, I would completely
> understand.

Hi oriondlf, I run this site. Here is an excerpt from the "Welcome" thread which defines my philosophy:

No legitimate post will ever be altered or deleted, regardless of how controversial, without a court order. Free, open, and anonymous means that you can express any thought, idea or opinion without fear of censorship.

Good luck in your fight!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: July 27, 2006 05:48PM

Note: Meaning of "legitimate" subject to change without notice.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: July 27, 2006 06:26PM

Fairfax County General District (Inactive Case Details)

Case Number     Defendant       Charge                   Case Type       Date  	         Disposition  	Paid
GT04009449-00 	HUFF, NADINE F 	FAIL OBEY HIGHWAY LA 	 Infraction 	 02/17/04 	 Prepaid 	 Yes


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: The Economist22 ()
Date: July 28, 2006 06:34PM

§ Wrote:
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> The Economist22 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > hahahaha suing fairfaxunderground.com ? that'll
> be
> > the day... hahahaha. seems like just about
> > everyone who doesn't like what gets said on
> here
> > threatens to sue. NEWSFLASH: The suing fad went
> > out about 5 years ago!
>
> You missed the point. FFX UG is only likely to be
> subpoenaed in this matter, not sued. I hardly
> believe anything will come of it anyway. -§



How do you subpeoana a website? It's not a physical thing

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: um ()
Date: July 28, 2006 06:58PM

take the whole server box.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: brianl703 ()
Date: July 29, 2006 07:38AM

Only the cops are allowed to do that.

For civil suits, I think maybe they'll have to be OK with a CD-R or DVD copy of the site.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: § ()
Date: July 31, 2006 11:18AM

Yes @ DVD as discovery. Also, any metadata would likely be useful. -§

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: July 31, 2006 02:12PM

>How do you subpeoana a website? It's not a physical thing

computer.jpg

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: dirtyharry ()
Date: August 01, 2006 05:22PM

This "attorney" has many happy customers at lawyerratingz.com
Perhaps he needs to check out
help for wacked out lawyers .com
or i need GOD.com

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: oriondlf ()
Date: August 05, 2006 12:57AM

Thanks Cary and all. I feel up for this fight and will keep you posted. Leisers Answer in Grounds of Defense is due to me by 15 August.....I'm waiting for the Motion to Dismiss which I believe will be coming soon.

THe responses I've gotten on this site have inspired me....

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: DIRTYHARRY ()
Date: August 05, 2006 01:26AM

HEY I HOPE YOU GET THIS IDIOT,BEFORE HE SCREWS ANYMORE PEOPLE.HE GIVES ALL ASSHOLES A BAD NAME.PLEASE POST THE TRAIL DATE.A FEW UNDER GROUNDERS SITTING ON THE FRONT ROW WOULD BE COOL.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: oriondlf ()
Date: August 05, 2006 03:09PM

Thanks for the continued support...I'll keep you posted...v/r

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: granny ()
Date: May 04, 2009 08:27PM

you probably deserved it you kook.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Yoohoo ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:46PM

granny Wrote:
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> you probably deserved it you kook.


Hi Nadine!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Phillip Leiser ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:58PM

To Donna:

With all the problems you have caused me, now you are spreading defamatory statements.

Why don't you tell this website about the death threats you have made against me and my family? Why don't you tell them about the bad checks you wrote my law firm for the services I provided you?

The statements you made will now be used in a civil court in the case I am building against you.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
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Date: May 04, 2009 10:00PM

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: haha donna ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:58PM

Phillip Leiser Wrote:
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> The statements you made will now be used in a
> civil court in the case I am building against you.


sick burn phillip

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: dont mess with a lawyer haha ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:04PM

update on this fiasco

http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/leiser-v-fell#description

Donna Fell is being sued for posting a rating on LawyerRatingz.com and also for posting a thread on Fairfax Underground about her experience with a law firm and lawyer. Three lawsuits are still pending in Fairfax Circuit Court in Virginia.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: William W. Van Alstyne ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:08PM

Although the details available online are scant, one Leiser case against Fell was dismissed from the Virginia Beach Circuit Court (#CL07000455-00) (no direct link; search here (in Civil): http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/MainMenu.do), and the VA Supreme Court refused both his appeal (#070154), and his petition for rehearing (search here: http://208.210.219.132/scolar/select.jsp).

A defamation suit brought by Leiser is still pending in the Fairfax County Circuit Court, according to this site: http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/leiser-v-fell#description. Unfortunately, cases in the Fairfax Circuit are not readily searchable online.

The good news is, when you Google "Phillip Leiser" the second listing is this page: "Beware of this law firm". lol-026.gif

Perhaps Donna Fell will post an update.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: May 04, 2009 11:11PM

and thats probably why he brought the defamation lawsuit as he can show that it could be causing him unwarranted trouble. she seems to be the only one with a problem with this guys work.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 05, 2009 01:26AM

i find this thread disturbing, not because of the original claim but because Phillip Leiser is suing one of his clients. defamatory or not, it's just poor form to go after someone who has paid you money and is unhappy with your services. you dont see companies going after their unhappy customers because they stand by their work. if everyone sued for defamation, high schools would be filling the court systems from gossip between classes and shit posted on myspace/facebook/blogs.

i find it highly disturbing that in a situation (not this particular one) where someone actually does the alleged acts of insulting their client, you have to fear getting sued for defamation because you cant prove an argument if it's not recorded.

besides, what's going to look worse, random allegations on the internet or suing your own client for posting such.


I would not use Phillip Leiser's lawfirm because he has shown that he will sue unhappy clients that express themselves.


go ahead and sue me Leiser, you will only prove you will sue anyone who doesnt like you and will drag your name through the mud again. everything in this post is true.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Right On ()
Date: May 05, 2009 01:47AM

Well said, Gravis !!

+5....to you.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: harry ()
Date: May 05, 2009 02:31AM

This "case" will get dropped by the plaintiff, or dismissed by the court. A consumer can say just about anything about a business or professional practitioner as long as it's true. A defamation claim over quality of work or professional conduct is virtually unwinnable. This attorney is doing his firm great damage by even bringing such foolishness to the court. I would ask the court to sanction him. Since he originally filed in Virginia Beach even when his firm & the defendant are Fairfax county residents, the judge just might slam him with sanctions. It will be obvious that it was done to harass the defendant, and make it more difficult for her to defend herself.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Junes ()
Date: May 05, 2009 05:25AM

I don't think leiser will be slammed by the judicial system. He knows his way around the law and how to make it work for him. This is another example of how this man sues "on principle," digging up old statutes to support his case against average people with little or no legal training and probably less financial resources (after going up against him, or using him to represent them).


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4181/is_20060704/ai_n16511005/

McCarthy's comment (in a moment of anger) was uncalled for. Still,something in my gut tells me Leiser didn't feel intimidated or harrassed by McCarthy's statement, but he did see McCarthy's comment as an easy way to make a little extra pocket change.

If Google is to be believed, Leiser takes the difficult cases. If so many of his clients are going against him for alleged "questionable billing practices," he might want to set his sights on some easier cases where he can meet the expectation of his clients.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: more info ()
Date: May 05, 2009 06:42AM

http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/leiser-v-fell

FFXU is specifically listed in the case! Cool!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: jimmy jingles ()
Date: May 05, 2009 12:23PM

If that was really him posting up there, I find it really unprofessional that he's attacking her reputation (true or not about the bad checks, death threats, etc) here.

Its one thing if some kooky lady says angry things about a lawyer, but when a lawyer comes and says kooky things about the kooky lady, I get a little suspect about that lawyer's professionalism.

Oh well, its not like this board has really high google trust metrics or anything, I'm sure this thread won't be very high in google searches for "Phillip Leiser's Law Firm" or leiserlaw or "The Law Offices of Phillip B. Leiser" when people search for "lawyer reviews" or "leiser lawyer review" or "lawyer ratings" anything..


oh wait


Gravis Wrote:
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> I would not use Phillip Leiser's lawfirm because
> he has shown that he will sue unhappy clients that
> express themselves.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/05/2009 12:24PM by jimmy jingles.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: jimmy jingles ()
Date: May 05, 2009 12:40PM

Also:

"A Jewish lawyer from Vienna, Va., won a $1,500 verdict against a man who told him he was sorry his family had not been exterminated in the concentration camps."

I didn't know you could sue someone (and win) for saying something like that.. That is a really fucked up thing to say to someone though, but I always figured you could say just about anything opinion-y like that and be protected by 1st amendment rights.

"A little-used Virginia statute allows a person to sue when subjected to acts of intimidation or harassment that are motivated by racial, religious or ethnic animosity."

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4181/is_20060704/ai_n16511005/

How hilarious would it be if a bunch of illegals started suing the racists on this board...

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: May 05, 2009 12:58PM

Phillip Leiser eats dicks for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 05, 2009 02:19PM

I've actually used his law firm (Leiser, Leiser, and Hennessy) for some civil stuff over the past year. I retained one of the associate attorneys, not Phillip himself, and I thought they were a very professional and responsive group of people to deal with. They were recommended to me by someone who also had a good experience with them.

Just thought I'd point that out- it's not like these people are crooked, I think whoever is writing that is just some bitter person who probably deserves the way she's been treated.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 05, 2009 02:21PM

http://www.leiserlaw.com/attorney.htm

$175 to $350 an hour. LOL, thats pretty cheap.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 05, 2009 02:45PM

lol, I thought it was expensive actually, especially to solve a problem I shouldn't even have to hire a lawyer to do!

Also, I doubt anyone there is charging 175 an hour, I sorta remember during consultation that 300 seemed to be the going rate for everyone there.



ITRADE Wrote:
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> http://www.leiserlaw.com/attorney.htm
>
> $175 to $350 an hour. LOL, thats pretty cheap.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: May 05, 2009 03:31PM

im giving leiser the benefit of the doubt here. this did not start as a defamation case but as a breach of contract because she did not pay. that sounds legit enough for me and then for her to try to ruin his reputation is just a childish attack. take her for all shes got! however if that was the real leiser posting im not sure it would help your case to defame her back on the same forum. that doesnt seem like a lawyer move to me though so im calling a fraud leiser post

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Economic Analysis = No Damages ()
Date: May 05, 2009 03:55PM

I still don't understand how this third-tier lawyer can assess damages in a case like this? It's certainly unquantifiable to make an assertion that a simple negative post on a message board cost him business. To make a punative claim, it would have to not only be widely disseminated, but would also have to be for something egregious and not a consumer's opinion, which this clearly doesn't pass the smell test (but for the fact that the complaint stinks).

It's no wonder he's working at a strip mall operation and not a blue chip firm. The Williams and Connolly's of the world wouldn't put up with this non-sense. He should be disbarred.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: jimmy jingles ()
Date: May 05, 2009 04:05PM

You tried really hard to make your post look all lawyerly, yet you misspelled punitive.... not to mention you were clearly stretching your own vocabulary to hack that abomination of a post together.

The court finds you guilty of fail of the 1st degree and fines you one (1) internet.

Economic Analysis = No Damages Wrote:
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> a punative claim

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 05, 2009 05:22PM

How about a term of no less than four years in a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Eight Men and a Neckbeard ()
Date: May 05, 2009 06:34PM

Donna Fell told a rather elaborate story in her couple of posts, beginning with the fact that a lawyer screwed up her personal injury case by failing to submit medical bills as evidence of damages. Her lawyer screwed up so badly the damages didn't even cover her medical costs, which is simply an egregious result on the facts presented.

She then took a legal malpractice case to Leiser, whom you think is a good attorney -- or at least, you think that the firm with his name on it is very professional and responsive, and a third-party you trust also believes his firm is good.

Leiser took her case. Presumably, therefore, he thought she had a reasonably good case, or, being a good attorney, he wouldn't have taken it.

Therefore, she's not a nut, according to your terms, at least at this stage of the game.

Act II. Fell gets into a fee dispute with Leiser, and describes in some detail - persuasive detail to my ear - Leiser's abusive response.

Now all of a sudden, by your lights, Fell is "just some bitter person who probably deserves the way she's been treated."

Uh huh. That makes complete sense. From good client to looney tunes in 60 seconds (you'd have to be looney tunes to write what she wrote if it's not true -- to have made up that detailed of a story out of whole cloth).

I don't know what really happened in this case, but I do know there are some very smart, good attorneys who can act like complete assholes.

I'm thinking, based on what I've read here, that Leiser is probably one of them. And I'm really enjoying the fact that his hotheaded defamation claim is exposing that assholishness to an extent that never would have occurred if he had simply resolved his dispute with Fell reasonably and professionally.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 05, 2009 06:50PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> http://www.leiserlaw.com/attorney.htm
>
> $175 to $350 an hour. LOL, thats pretty cheap.


sure... until he sues you.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Mamoose is Loose ()
Date: May 05, 2009 06:54PM

jimmy jingles Wrote:
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> You tried really hard to make your post look all
> lawyerly, yet you misspelled punitive.... not to
> mention you were clearly stretching your own
> vocabulary to hack that abomination of a post
> together.
>
> The court finds you guilty of fail of the 1st
> degree and fines you one (1) internet.
>
> Economic Analysis = No Damages Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > a punative claim

Indeed; you are correct.

Let's chalk that up to a speed-typing accident with -4 points on my keyboard license.

No thanks on the prison stay. I'd much rather run backward through a corn field.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 06, 2009 06:10AM

Eight Men and a Neckbeard Wrote:
>>>(you'd have to be looney tunes to write what she wrote if it's not true -- to have made up that detailed of a story out of whole cloth).


A random unregistered person comes on FU to write a goofy inaccurate story?

NOW WAI!!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: May 27, 2009 11:51AM

This is just a brief message to readers of Fairfax Underground website readers--
A recently-posted item was called to my attention this morning, by telephone, referring to a posted item on this website. The "Posted by" box identified the writer as me, i.e., "William Van Alstyne." This entry is a fraud. I frankly did not know of "Fairfax Underground" until this morning when some regular reader saw what appeared to be my name and telephoned to ask whether it was correct. It is not correct and whoever posted it was not merely misleading readers to have used it but may well have violated federal laws in falsely representing themself in just this way.
William Van Alstyne

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Lifer ()
Date: May 27, 2009 12:31PM

Economic Analysis = No Damages Wrote:
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> I still don't understand how this third-tier
> lawyer can assess damages in a case like this?
> It's certainly unquantifiable to make an assertion
> that a simple negative post on a message board
> cost him business. To make a punative claim, it
> would have to not only be widely disseminated, but
> would also have to be for something egregious and
> not a consumer's opinion, which this clearly
> doesn't pass the smell test (but for the fact that
> the complaint stinks).
>
> It's no wonder he's working at a strip mall
> operation and not a blue chip firm. The Williams
> and Connolly's of the world wouldn't put up with
> this non-sense. He should be disbarred.



Unquanti whatable?? please speak english - if we were dicKtionary toting geniuses we wouldn't be on this site - yo

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: May 27, 2009 05:01PM

william van alstylne Wrote:
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> The "Posted by" box identified the writer as me, i.e.,
> "William Van Alstyne."

WRONG! the poster identified themselves only as William W. Van Alstyne, not you specifically. you act like you are the only William W. Van Alstyne. talk about arrogant.


> it but may well have violated federal laws in
> falsely representing themself in just this way.


FUD++

file.php?2,file=7069> William Van Alstyne

file.php?2,file=5058
"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/27/2009 05:03PM by Gravis.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: § ()
Date: May 27, 2009 05:02PM

Well, there's Google.

Or, if you are lazy, unquantifiable means "not able to be quantified." LOL.

For additional help, please type the word "quantify" into the box on http://www.merriam-webster.com/, click "Thesaurus", press "Search", then add your result to the end of "not able to be [result]."

Then afterward, take two of these and post your results in the morning.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Straight Portland kirb, twelve inches by ten inches, with rail holes, plugs and lead, including the stone for the brace bar ()
Date: May 30, 2009 01:25AM

Haha.

Put Phillip Leiser into Google and the FIRST post that comes up is this thread:

Beware of this law firm

His foolhardy defamation claim has thus served not only to PUBLICIZE the alleged defamation, and thereby increase the harm to his reputation, but also, as it were, highlight for the public his strategic and tactical STUPIDITY as a lawyer.

Indeed, I daresay calling a LAWYER "stupid" might itself fairly be reckoned defamation PER SE.

Thus supposing myself next in his ever-litigious sights - and since I don't doubt that's he's drafting a subpoena EVEN NOW - let me add that not only is Leiser STUPID, but he ALSO has a LOATHSOME DISEASE.

I refer not to syphilis, HIV, or even the dreaded herp ("what's so bad about herp?" thinks Meep as he darts his tongue compulsively at a peculiarly flavorsome canker - strange barren blastocyst where late the cockbirds sang).

Oh no, I am thinking rather of something far, far more insidious and deadly.

To wit: Hubris.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: ThePackLeader ()
Date: May 30, 2009 04:04AM

jimmy jingles Wrote:
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> Also:
>
> "A Jewish lawyer from Vienna, Va., won a $1,500
> verdict against a man who told him he was sorry
> his family had not been exterminated in the
> concentration camps."
>
> I didn't know you could sue someone (and win) for
> saying something like that.. That is a really
> fucked up thing to say to someone though, but I
> always figured you could say just about anything
> opinion-y like that and be protected by 1st
> amendment rights.
>
> "A little-used Virginia statute allows a person to
> sue when subjected to acts of intimidation or
> harassment that are motivated by racial, religious
> or ethnic animosity."
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4181/is_20
> 060704/ai_n16511005/
>
> How hilarious would it be if a bunch of illegals
> started suing the racists on this board...


"Illegals" is a term referring to ones Status, NOT their Race, Ethnicity, Religion, Nationality, or so on. Therefore, how do you deem someone a "Racist" for voicing their displeasure with a law breaker?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Straight Portland kirb, twelve inches by ten inches, with rail holes, plugs and lead, including the stone for the brace bar ()
Date: May 30, 2009 03:17PM

Actually, if that is the real Professor Van Alstyne in the above post - which I rather doubt, but it's not impossible - I would be interested in his view of the Virginia statute Phillip Leiser used to sue someone (discussed in the last post on the first page of this thread, including a link to this article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4181/is_20060704/ai_n16511005/); specifically, whether it passes muster under the First Amendment, about which Professor VA is of course an expert.

I understand that prosecution for threatening language is not necessarily repugnant to the First Amendment, but at least according to the paraphrase in the article, it doesn't sound like Leiser was actually threatened (or could reasonably understand the comment as a threat), but rather merely insulted, albeit in quite nasty terms. It is unfortunate the defendant chose not to appeal the verdict, which would have brought the dubious statute under the scrutiny of a higher court.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: The Congressman ()
Date: May 30, 2009 05:08PM

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: YaaHoo ()
Date: August 17, 2009 01:00PM

Has Leiser seen the error of his ways....looks like he has stopped suing vast numbers of people....

Fell did good.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: I can't believe this ()
Date: September 15, 2009 06:46PM

The Economist22 Wrote:
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> § Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The Economist22 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > hahahaha suing fairfaxunderground.com ?
> that'll
> > be
> > > the day... hahahaha. seems like just about
> > > everyone who doesn't like what gets said on
> > here
> > > threatens to sue. NEWSFLASH: The suing fad
> went
> > > out about 5 years ago!
> >
> > You missed the point. FFX UG is only likely to
> be
> > subpoenaed in this matter, not sued. I hardly
> > believe anything will come of it anyway. -§
>
>
>
> How do you subpeoana a website? It's not a
> physical thing

For the longest time I have been wondering how to go about making a complaint against this firm. I will say this and leave it there, how do you pay $4,000.00 and only have a agreement order typed. How does the lawyer that took your case not know that she was suppose to file a petition to the courts before she requested something from the judge, well today I paid $4,000.00 and when I called the firm to make a formal complaint I was told that I would be charged to talk to the lawyer about the problem.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: GMU Hokie ()
Date: September 15, 2009 07:19PM

I can't believe this Wrote:
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> The Economist22 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > § Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The Economist22 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > hahahaha suing fairfaxunderground.com ?
> > that'll
> > > be
> > > > the day... hahahaha. seems like just about
> > > > everyone who doesn't like what gets said on
> > > here
> > > > threatens to sue. NEWSFLASH: The suing fad
> > went
> > > > out about 5 years ago!
> > >
> > > You missed the point. FFX UG is only likely
> to
> > be
> > > subpoenaed in this matter, not sued. I hardly
> > > believe anything will come of it anyway. -§
> >
> >
> >
> > How do you subpeoana a website? It's not a
> > physical thing
>
> For the longest time I have been wondering how to
> go about making a complaint against this firm. I
> will say this and leave it there, how do you pay
> $4,000.00 and only have a agreement order typed.
> How does the lawyer that took your case not know
> that she was suppose to file a petition to the
> courts before she requested something from the
> judge, well today I paid $4,000.00 and when I
> called the firm to make a formal complaint I was
> told that I would be charged to talk to the lawyer
> about the problem.


``````Go to this site: http://www.vsb.org/site/regulation/inquiry/
Follow the directions.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: UnBittered ()
Date: September 18, 2009 11:34AM

Not a bitter person and not deserving of all that happened.

Just read "Leiser v. Fell". Whoever posted it took the time to research the story.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: SlappHappy ()
Date: November 24, 2009 09:17AM

Here tell that a VSB complaint is coming Leiser's way. Hennessy and MCarthy, too.

Yes, Virginia, we need to join the ranks of the other 28 states -- we need anti SLAPP regulations to stop the kind of craziness that prevents FREE SPEECH!!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 09:38AM

dont mess with a lawyer haha Wrote:
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> update on this fiasco
>
> http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/leiser-v-fell#d
> escription
>
> Donna Fell is being sued for posting a rating on
> LawyerRatingz.com and also for posting a thread on
> Fairfax Underground about her experience with a
> law firm and lawyer. Three lawsuits are still
> pending in Fairfax Circuit Court in Virginia.


Like some of us didn't see that one coming.

Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
Date: July 25, 2006 11:05AM

Ever hear of slander? Or libel? Frankly, you could win your case and still get your ass sued over posting this. If I were Cary, I would pull this off the board now, since he could be dragged into the impending suit this guy is going to file against you.


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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 09:55AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Like some of us didn't see that one coming...


Fail.

Per Scooper's detailed report, http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read.php?2,227950,241095,quote=1, the Leiser v. Fell matter has been resolved.

If Leiser prevailed in his libel claim, Cary would have been forced to take this thread down.

The thread's still up.

Ergo, your warning was ill-placed, and certainly not something to crow about.

It's *very* hard to sue an internet discussion board or its proprietors for defamation; plaintiffs can and do go after the individuals who post allegedly libelous comments, however.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: StandUp ()
Date: November 24, 2009 10:08AM

No one should be sued for posting an opinion, making a bar complaint or complaining to the proper consumer offices -- period. It took Leiser a lot of time, money, energy to hunt after this woman for years and years. She paid nothing to him -- didn't cost her a dime.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 10:13AM

Grotius Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Like some of us didn't see that one coming...
>
>
> Fail.
>

Really? Apparently you can't read...

Frankly, you could win your case and still get your ass sued over posting this.

I never said that the lawsuit would prevail. I warned that it would be a hassle that would eat up money that this person probably didn't have, which I'm sure it did.

This idea from "StandUp" that it "didn't cost her a dime" is misplaced. Did the woman have to file legal fees? Did she have to hire lawyers? Did she miss time from work?

Then there are the other costs....stress, aggravation, fear.

Was it worth it for the supposed satisfaction of bitching about this guy on a forum? I doubt it.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 10:21AM

Apparently you can't read.

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Like some of us didn't see that one coming.
>
> Re: Beware of this law firm
> Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
> Date: July 25, 2006 11:05AM
>
> Ever hear of slander? Or libel? Frankly, you could
> win your case and still get your ass sued over
> posting this. If I were Cary, I would pull this
> off the board now, since he could be dragged into
> the impending suit this guy is going to file
> against you.



For some stupid reason, you decided to crow about the unnecessary warning you gave Cary.

Crow fail.

Tone fail.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: StandUp ()
Date: November 24, 2009 10:23AM

Some of us believe in our rights to free speech so I, for one, would have to say it was worth it for this woman to stand tall and try and make a difference. I agree with Anti-SLAPP -- we need that type of legislation in this Commonwealth to prevent abuses.
BTW, the lawsuits were broader than posting on this site. She was sued for making a bar complaint, as well. Can you imagine not having the freedom to voice a complaint for fear of being sued -- and sued -- and sued -- and sued?

What price is freedom and kudos to those who do stand tall to protect those freedoms.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 10:28AM

Grotius Wrote:
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> Apparently you can't read.
>
> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Like some of us didn't see that one coming.
> >
> > Re: Beware of this law firm
> > Posted by: WashingToneLocian ()
> > Date: July 25, 2006 11:05AM
> >
> > Ever hear of slander? Or libel? Frankly, you
> could
> > win your case and still get your ass sued over
> > posting this. If I were Cary, I would pull this
> > off the board now, since he could be dragged
> into
> > the impending suit this guy is going to file
> > against you.
>
>
> For some stupid reason, you decided to crow about
> the unnecessary warning you gave Cary.
>
> Crow fail.
>
> Tone fail.

My understanding is that the guy did try to drag Cary into the suit. How did I fail again?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 10:40AM

StandUp Wrote:
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> Some of us believe in our rights to free speech so
> I, for one, would have to say it was worth it for
> this woman to stand tall and try and make a
> difference. I agree with Anti-SLAPP -- we need
> that type of legislation in this Commonwealth to
> prevent abuses.
> BTW, the lawsuits were broader than posting on
> this site. She was sued for making a bar
> complaint, as well. Can you imagine not having
> the freedom to voice a complaint for fear of being
> sued -- and sued -- and sued -- and sued?
>
> What price is freedom and kudos to those who do
> stand tall to protect those freedoms.

Finally, seems that an agreement was signed and a few dollars was trown at Leiser to get rid of him and free Fell from continued legal harassment.

So Fell won by paying this guy even more money?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 10:48AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> My understanding is that the guy did try to drag
> Cary into the suit. How did I fail again?


Because Donna Fell was sued, not Cary or FU.

It would have been very easy enough for a lawyer like Leiser to sue Cary if there were any legal grounds, which there were not.

Cary was not sued, and did not have to take steps to avoid being "dragged into" the Fell suit.

I don't fault you for your July post - you were just trying to give Cary a heads-up. Which is fine, particularly given Leiser's litigiousness.

But crowing about it at this late date, after the matter has been settled, and your warning shown to have been pointless, is ridiculous.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 10:59AM

Grotius Wrote:
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> WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > My understanding is that the guy did try to
> drag
> > Cary into the suit. How did I fail again?
>
>
> Because Donna Fell was sued, not Cary or FU.
>
> It would have been very easy enough for a lawyer
> like Leiser to sue Cary if there were any legal
> grounds, which there were not.
>
> Cary was not sued, and did not have to take steps
> to avoid being "dragged into" the Fell suit.
>
> I don't fault you for your July post - you were
> just trying to give Cary a heads-up. Which is
> fine, particularly given Leiser's litigiousness.
>
> But crowing about it at this late date, after the
> matter has been settled, and your warning shown to
> have been pointless, is ridiculous.


I was crowing about a suit coming out of this, even a failed one. I provided a warning to Cary who, I understand, was approached by the lawyer when he was preparing his case. By "pointless" if you mean "dead on," then you would be correct.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 11:10AM

You warned Cary about being dragged into the suit.

It was a pointless warning. There was no such threat.

Cary has averred that he's received *many* take-down notices, and I don't doubt that Leiser tried to get him to take down this thread.

But that's far different than actually being dragged into a lawsuit, or Leiser even *attempting* to drag him into a lawsuit.

Again, Leiser made no such attempt.

Indeed, he could have simply done so if he wished to.

It's very easy for a lawyer to file a lawsuit. Leiser could have dictated a complaint in 10 minutes, and had the suit typed up and filed the same day.

Or he could have amended one of the Fell complaints to include Cary/FU.

But he didn't.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Woodland St Res ()
Date: November 24, 2009 11:27AM

Leiser has done a lottttt more harm to his reputation since the post of this then he could have. I know that I will never be using this crook and I know I will make sure that no one I know uses him either. Thats the beauty of word of mouth.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 11:28AM

There are countless ways to be "dragged into a suit" that don't involve being sued. Cary could have been subpoenaed and/or deposed, which would have involved his needing to hire a lawyer.

The fact is you have an issue with me being right. Sorry, but that's your issue, not mine.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 11:34AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> The fact is you have an issue with me being right.
> Sorry, but that's your issue, not mine.


I have an issue with you idiotically bragging about a pointless and incorrect warning.

Cary was never at risk of being "dragged into the impending suit" Leiser was supposedly "going to file against" him.

Under § 230, the host of an online message board is not legally responsible for defamatory posts made by someone else. Period.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/47/230.html#230.c_1

http://www.chillingeffects.org/defamation/faq.cgi#QID708

Your original warning was ill-conceived, but well-intended. You get a pass on that; you were trying to do the right thing.

Crowing about it now, however = FAIL.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 11:41AM

I just wrote: "Cary was never at risk of being "dragged into the impending suit" Leiser was supposedly "going to file against" him."

The last part of that sentence was incorrect.

In your July remark, the "going to file" part was directed to the OP, not Cary.

Nonetheless, you warned Cary about being "dragged into the impending suit," and he wasn't.

So you were wrong, and you fail.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 11:42AM

Grotius Wrote:
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>
> Cary was never at risk of being "dragged into the
> impending suit" Leiser was supposedly "going to
> file against" him.
>
>

Hey, fucktard! I never said a suit was going to be filed against Cary. Learn how to READ!

If I were Cary, I would pull this off the board now, since he(meaning Cary) could be dragged into the impending suit this guy is going to file against you. (meaning the OP)

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 11:44AM

Grotius Wrote:
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> I just wrote: "Cary was never at risk of being
> "dragged into the impending suit" Leiser was
> supposedly "going to file against" him."
>
> The last part of that sentence was incorrect.
>
> In your July remark, the "going to file" part was
> directed to the OP, not Cary.
>
> Nonetheless, you warned Cary about being "dragged
> into the impending suit," and he wasn't.
>
> So you were wrong, and you fail.

So you are admitting that your entire rationale has been wrong from the beginning, yet I still fail? Fuck you, moron.

You are wrong. You know it. Fuck off.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 11:56AM

WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> So you are admitting that your entire rationale
> has been wrong from the beginning

No, I misphrased a part of one sentence, and when I spotted the mistake, I corrected it.

My "rationale" hasn't changed.

To wit:

You made a prediction. You predicted wrong. Then you bragged about it.

As noted, I don't have a problem with your July post.

But today's posts, bragging about your failed prediction, are just stupid.


WashingTone-Locian Wrote:
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> Cary could have been subpoenaed and/or deposed,
> which would have involved his needing to hire a lawyer.


McCain could have been elected President, but he wasn't.

Your prediction was WRONG. Period.

But for some stupid reason you're now bragging about it.


> Fuck you, moron.
>
> You are wrong. You know it. Fuck off.

Grow up.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 12:44PM

You can paint bullshit gold with a can of Krylon, it doesn't make it a Krugerrand.

Sorry, but you lose. Hope you enjoy eating crow this Thanksgiving.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 12:47PM

You warned Cary about being "dragged into the impending suit."

He wasn't.

You predicted wrong, then bragged about your mistaken prediction.

You fail.

And get bonus fail points for trying to wriggle out of your blunder.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 12:58PM

Grotius Wrote:
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>
> And get bonus fail points for trying to wriggle
> out of your blunder.


My only blunder was not doing this sooner....

fuck-you.jpg

...Enjoy the crow on Thursday, shithead.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Grotius ()
Date: November 24, 2009 01:13PM

StandUp Wrote:
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> She paid nothing to
> him -- didn't cost her a dime.

That's great to hear.


WashingTone-Childish Wrote:
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> If I were Cary, I would pull this
> off the board now, since he could be dragged into
> the impending suit this guy is going to file
> against you.

You made this prediction in July.

Bragging about it today, after the matter has been resolved and your prediction
proved wrong, is as foolish as someone who predicted the Skins would beat Dallas
posting today to brag about the accuracy of their prediction.

The only difference being no Skins fan would be so foolish.

Only you sir could rise to this level of stupidity.

Congratulations.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: advessor ()
Date: November 24, 2009 01:19PM

Psst, WTL, the crow line is a bit beat. Acceptable, albeit lame, the first time, but multiple posts using the same "zinger" is mighty weak. You do fail on that account.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 01:22PM

advessor Wrote:
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> Psst, WTL, the crow line is a bit beat.
> Acceptable, albeit lame, the first time, but
> multiple posts using the same "zinger" is mighty
> weak. You do fail on that account.


Crow = Turkey not comic gold?

Okay. I digress.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: November 24, 2009 01:24PM

Grotius Wrote:
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>
> You made this prediction in July.
>
> Bragging about it today, after the matter has been
> resolved and your prediction
> proved wrong, is as foolish as someone who
> predicted the Skins would beat Dallas
> posting today to brag about the accuracy of their
> prediction.
>
> The only difference being no Skins fan would be so
> foolish.
>
> Only you sir could rise to this level of
> stupidity.
>
> Congratulations.

Let me know when your vagina monologue is over and I might engage again. Otherwise, you know where I stand.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: InTheKnow ()
Date: November 26, 2009 08:47AM

All....we need to protect our first amendment rights. Contact your state legislatures and tell them you want Virginia to be an Anti-SLAPP state.

No one should be fearful of expressing their opinion or posting facts -- even if those facts are uncomfortable or unpleasant.

There is a lot of rhetoric for first amendment protections but any lawyer or company with lawyers on retainer can completely trample your rights.

Anti-SLAPP protects those expressing their rights by allowing the defendant to come before the judge before time and money is spent -- and show the court that you are being sued for merely expressing same and that the plaintiff is simply using big guns to control you.

Anti-SLAPP legislation is a much needed protection.

Thinking of setting up a grass roots effort vis a vis blog to petition for this.

I, for one, have met with my legilstures -- asked that this legislation be put before the general assembly.

....of, by, for -- the people!!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: whome? ()
Date: December 07, 2009 10:48PM

Phillip Leiser -- tsk tsk tsk. Can you believe this guy?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: speakclearly ()
Date: July 15, 2010 10:31AM

Do your homework before you post please

McCarthy WAS LEISER'S ATTORNEY, NOT the person who made the racist comment! McCarthy made no comments "in anger".

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: The Law Offices ()
Date: July 15, 2010 10:48PM

Leiser Leiser & Hennessy Pllc

It doesn't seem very professional to file multiple lawsuits against your clients

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: yokomama ()
Date: July 16, 2010 09:44PM

no coment
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: yokomama ()
Date: July 16, 2010 09:54PM

Karen Leiser
2295 Village Crossing Rd, Apt 302
Falls Church, VA 22043-2393
Age: 35-39
Household: Phillip B Leiser,
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Lawyer ()
Date: July 16, 2010 10:20PM

speakclearly Wrote:
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> Do your homework before you post please
>
> McCarthy WAS LEISER'S ATTORNEY, NOT the person who
> made the racist comment! McCarthy made no comments
> "in anger".


Regardless, it doesn't speak well of McCarthy that he would handle a case that rests on a statute so obviously repugnant to the First Amendment.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: shorty123 ()
Date: September 15, 2010 11:00PM

McCarthy left Leiser's firm. Leiser filed a suit against McCarthy and another defendant who I believe is McCarthy's wife. The suit alleged something about causing a loss of business by getting the other lawyers to leave the firm -- it went on and on so I can't recall all the details. From what I recall, the suit against the female defendant was dismissed and the other was nonsuited but then refiled.

McCarthy has hired a lawyer to represent him in this case.
Phillip Leiser; Leiser, Leiser Hennessey.........

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Juxtaposition ()
Date: September 16, 2010 03:44AM

Urrgghh. Fuck them Lawyers, and this is a really old thread, but a nice conclusion.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: slubdawg ()
Date: September 16, 2010 02:25PM

mad max, JD Wrote:
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> res ipsa loquitur


writ of coram nobis

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: MrMephisto ()
Date: September 16, 2010 02:27PM

Are these Monica Pignotti's lawyers?

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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: sue all ()
Date: September 20, 2010 03:32PM

CANT WIN.gOOD OLD bOYS NETWORK. gOODLUCK tRYING U NEVER KNOW

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: LegaKnot ()
Date: October 05, 2010 05:17PM

Leiser seems to have ceased suing clients except for one upcoming trial scheduled for next week in the GD court. Is this an end to an era???

We can only hope.....

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: R6 ()
Date: October 08, 2010 02:03AM

It is sad that this man is known for his shady practice. He may be a very good lawyer and know the law but to me after looking at the Donna Fell case and seeing that it was originally filed in Virginia Beach simply screams corruption to me. I am from Virginia Beach and I know that the judicial system, law enforcement, and local government are corrupt.

Donna is a victim and Leiser should know better. His suit held no real value and he knew it, the fact that he sued 6 times and got the same verdict each time simply showed that he was going to cost her time and money. I will never use this lawyer or firm and will never recommend them to anyone. In fact I will advise them to stay away....

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: LKnot ()
Date: October 15, 2010 07:10AM

In the trial held this week, Leiser lost against the pro se defendant. The lawsuit brought by Leiser was time barred. This lawsuit was originally filed out of venue (in Arlington) and the pro se defendant had to go to Arlington and have it moved to the correct venue,Fairfax County GD Court, where it was heard and disposed of. BUT....Leiser noted his appeal. Leiser is suing for something like $750.00. If he perfects this appeal, the pro se litigant will need to defend herself in Circuit Court.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Donna ()
Date: November 15, 2010 11:46AM

I want to thank R6 for expressing concern. All is well with me. Fortunately, none of this cost me a penny for I had insurance that covered my defense. I do, however, continue to review case filings to ensure I am not being sued again in some other venue.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: huh?? ()
Date: November 16, 2010 07:15PM

Is that Phillip Leiser???

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: leiserhennessey ()
Date: December 02, 2010 07:46PM

Phillip Leiser -- yup.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Har_Har ()
Date: May 10, 2011 09:13PM

What is Phillip Leiser of Leiser Leiser & Hennessy Pllc up to these days?

Is he still practicing law?

Is he still suing former clients and business partners?

Anyone have any recent dealings with him or his law firm?

Just curious to see how this all played out...

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: WinOne ()
Date: July 17, 2011 07:01PM

Leiser is still practicing law. I went into the various court sites and don't see many cases with his name or his firm identified so don't know how active he is. Would love to know what happened to the Fairfax Circuit suit he filed against his previous partner and/or employee (McCarthy) and McCarthy's wife. Fairfax Circuit cases aren't on line so would have to take a trip to the courthouse to read the file.

Do know that this thread which was started years ago still comes up as number one hit when googling his name.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: May 06, 2012 02:11PM

I am presently in Litigation against Leiser Leiser and Hennessey. I read the Donna Fell Case at the courthouse. It appears that Both Donna and Myself have made the same allegations with regard to his "inclusion clause" of his retainer agreement. My case number is 2011-13795 in the Circuit court

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Date: May 06, 2012 02:41PM

I read through the case no.s 2006-7498 and 2007-1187 when I filed my opposition to Leiser, Leiser and Hennessey's demurrer, scheduled to be heard May 18th 2012. It appeared that the case was decided against her in General District Court and subsequently it was moved to Circuit Court where it was decided against her Res Judicata. In mY case 2011-13795 I filed my Malpractice action against him before he filed his against me, so The GDC court ruled against Leiser until he gets a release from the Circuit Court.

Leiser used the same Retainer agreement with her as he used with me. Donna Fell alleged that he told her one thing, That he would take the case on a contingency basis at her initial consultation and then, as she was crunched on time in the matter she brought to Phillip to help her file on time, he asked her to pay a retainer, the $4,000.00. the Clause Leiser used in that written retainer agreement was ..."this Agreement constitutes the entire Agreement between the parties; there are no additional oral or written agreements contrary to the terms expressly set forth herein. There have been no promises or representations made by the Firm other than those contained in this written agreement. Client understands that the firm cannot guarantee any specific outcome in this case but that the firm will exercise its best efforts to obtain a result that is satisfactory to Client."

In my case He told me he would contact a specific witness and see if a alteration made on a credit application by a car salesman to make sure a fraudulent deal would go through was a crime.

In the Donna Fell case, he told her that he would take her case on a contingency basis.

Both Fell, and I pled that he told us one thing and turned around and argued his "Inclusion clause," which is ambiguous to what is its intended meaning, to absolve him of his duty of care as a professional Lawyer which was stated with his spoken word.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: SoShort ()
Date: May 19, 2012 02:08AM

Phillip Leiser -- he's still PRACTICING law???? I can only hope that people are doing their research before hiring him or using his firm.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: FinnDog ()
Date: July 19, 2012 05:54PM

He's still going strong! Lawsuit pending against a former employee, this time.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: What a loser ()
Date: July 19, 2012 08:38PM

Hey Phil, how many checks did you accept? Insanity is doing the same thing overand over and expecting a different result. From your bio, you graduated from a bottom tier law school. Maybe that is why you are doing bottom tier cases. My guess is that you are hoping for that one big payout, at the expense of your clients. YOU SIR ARE THE REASON WHY EVERYONE HATES LAWYERS and i can't say that I blame them.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Karen Hennessey ()
Date: July 19, 2012 10:51PM

Phillip Leiser --- what an embarassment to the legal profession. Donna came out of this entire mess unharmed even after being sued so many times -- there were even lawsuits filed against her in Virginia Beach. I think the total Leiser sued her for was something like 2.6 million.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: PhillipLoser ()
Date: July 19, 2012 10:52PM

Yo....right on target!!!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Courthouse ()
Date: January 07, 2013 01:50PM

This cheesy lawyer is at it again.

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/business/press-releases/article/Fairfax-Criminal-Lawyer-Best-of-the-Best-4166852.php#ixzz2HD5lMGYF

What's really funny is that neither of the Leisers, or Hennessy, practice criminal/traffic defense in Fairfax. Somebody should ask Phillip Leiser when was the last time he even represented a client in Fairfax traffic court.

Yet this cheeseball is proclaimed "Best of the Best" in the category of Fairfax Reckless Driving.

-Courthouse

By the way, this "award" was created by his website developer.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: who dat ()
Date: January 07, 2013 05:51PM

i have it on good authority that robert nealon is the best of the best at criminal law,all his clients give him top marks

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: esquire ()
Date: January 07, 2013 08:39PM

Isn't is a violation of the Virginia Rules of Professional Conduct to call yourself the "best?" And by paying someone to make that statement, isn't the attorney essentially making the statement himself through an agent?

Courthouse Wrote:
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> This cheesy lawyer is at it again.
>
> http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/business/press-r
> eleases/article/Fairfax-Criminal-Lawyer-Best-of-th
> e-Best-4166852.php#ixzz2HD5lMGYF
>
> What's really funny is that neither of the
> Leisers, or Hennessy, practice criminal/traffic
> defense in Fairfax. Somebody should ask Phillip
> Leiser when was the last time he even represented
> a client in Fairfax traffic court.
>
> Yet this cheeseball is proclaimed "Best of the
> Best" in the category of Fairfax Reckless
> Driving.
>
> -Courthouse
>
> By the way, this "award" was created by his
> website developer.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: LoserLawyer ()
Date: March 04, 2013 09:56PM

Phillip Leiser is a poor excuse for a lawyer. Looks like his suing clients came to an end when Donna fought back. Thank goodness consumers can now do research before hiring a professional.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Bottom dollar justice ()
Date: February 11, 2015 03:57PM

LoserLawyer Wrote:
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> Phillip Leiser is a poor excuse for a lawyer.
> Looks like his suing clients came to an end when
> Donna fought back. Thank goodness consumers can
> now do research before hiring a professional.


The Moreno family trusts him to bring justice.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: bump it up ()
Date: February 11, 2015 06:52PM

Bump

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Dv9he ()
Date: February 12, 2015 03:20PM

i can produce evidence your name and addess are on this ! just hard to see ..
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: uJNET ()
Date: February 12, 2015 03:21PM

does he "work over" litigants who are trying to use law to get in on someone else's business ?

if so hes a "good lawyer" !

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: WKWLb ()
Date: February 12, 2015 03:23PM


does he ever take work from fx co gov ? many area lawyers do

and most if not all fail to say so in court (so does the judge - which is also illegal)

all money ties in the past between litigants AND THE GOV have to be plainly expressed AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE SUIT


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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: What's going on? ()
Date: June 22, 2015 07:34AM

Bump

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: t7VGx ()
Date: June 22, 2015 10:45AM

Donna Wrote:
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> I was sued by my lawyer, Phillip Leiser, for
> breach of contract. Of course, I did not breach
> the contract and probably neither did the other 57
> people he sued making the same claim. In my case,
> he lied about the representation he would provide.
> I am not a person who doesn't pay my bills and I
> certainly did not owe him any more than the amount
> I paid. THe legal system, however, is not geared
> for the pro se litigant and he won -- with the
> exception that the judge ordered that $1K be
> returned to me for errors made on his part and for
> which I was billed. In any case, he has verbally
> assaulted calling me a number of not so nice names
> -- this assault was so bad that I had to ask a
> sherrif's deputy to accompany me on the elevator
> -- from where Phillip escaped on the very next
> floor. He was intimated by the presence of the
> deputy -- Now, I am suing his law firm for
> violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act.
> I filed, pro se, in general district court but he
> had it removed to circuit court. What a mess --
> I'll probably lose but I certainly am giving it a
> fighting chance.


it's not pro-se litigation - which technically is NOT allowed

it is A CROSS CHARGE. when charges are brought against you, you have the legal right to cross-charge. every case there are two litigans: in civil court the prosecution/defendant scenario is really rare that the defendant would have no charges against the other LITIGANT

however, fx co gov pretends cross-charges are not allowed (ie, to help their political friends use the court as a monologue to rake in money for political friends)

you were no doubt blocked from cross-charging, or equally the same any complaint you did have prosecution was not made to answer, and so you fairly are allowed to prosecute pro-se

legally, if a party prosecute another in court they also invite all pending cross-charges against themselves



i'm unsure what your trying to achieve if $1,000 that was over-billed was already awarded to you. usually if any compensation is given so is a small ammount for lost time and gas money

if a state or county (not an individual) demands you in court an looses: VA State law says clearly they owe at least gas money

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: September bump ()
Date: September 23, 2015 04:58AM

bump

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: New developments ()
Date: February 28, 2016 02:11AM

David Matthew Trinnes is employed at the Leiser Law Firm. He is representing the Moreno family of Sterling Virginia.

edit by Cary (the admin): Imagery removed pursuant to DMCA copyright complaint by David Trinnes. Read the original complaint here: http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/dmca/DavidTrinnes/complaint.txt

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Fungo Batz ()
Date: March 16, 2016 07:24PM

Leiser at a recent official court hearing in Fauquier County.
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: abovethelaw ()
Date: August 01, 2016 10:04AM

Awful firm.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: CFPB ()
Date: August 01, 2016 10:12AM

file a complaint with the Consumer Financial Protection Board..........they love crushing Lawyers.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Rocco Bomma ()
Date: November 17, 2016 09:09AM

Garden variety lawyer.
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: this needs a bump ()
Date: March 21, 2017 12:33AM

leiser is google-fucked

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: this needs a bump ()
Date: March 21, 2017 12:33AM

leiser is google-fucked

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: CumVm ()
Date: March 21, 2017 11:45AM

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Why is The Leiser Firm So BAD? ()
Date: March 21, 2017 02:06PM

What have they done. Is the gay guy a lawyer?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Disappointed ()
Date: March 21, 2017 02:15PM

Yes I would go with another, based on another lawyer's performance at the same firm.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Fraudulent Bills ()
Date: March 21, 2017 02:31PM

Why is The Leiser Firm So BAD? Wrote:
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> What have they done. Is the gay guy a lawyer?

They conspired with a client to extort money from a third party by sending a bill for legal services that had not been requested and which the law firm knew she was under no obligation to pay.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Is it worth it ()
Date: March 22, 2017 05:50PM

Certain firms engage in the kind of no holds barred-roll in the mud-fight til the bitter end and to hell with the collateral damage litigation that even lawyers believe makes their profession look bad. Those firms are however exactly the kind of law firm that many clients want...until they see the littered landscape their victory has won them. At that point those clients also find out the firm that fought viciously for them is willing to be even more vicious when it comes to collecting their fees.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: So Pay those Fees MF'er ()
Date: March 22, 2017 05:55PM

Pay them now bitches!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Ruthtruths ()
Date: March 23, 2017 06:40AM

A good way to get to a lawyer who is threatening you is to move the discussion to the wall of their Facebook page.

Invade their social media. They find verbal fighting without the protection of the court very distasteful, and the prospect of their friends and family seeing what absolute assholery makes up their lives.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Judge Wapner ()
Date: March 23, 2017 06:54AM

Q: What do you call a smiling, courteous person at a bar association convention?
A: The caterer.

Q: What's the difference between a female lawyer and a pitbull?
A: Lipstick.

Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 100?
A: Your Honor.
Q: What do you call a lawyer with an IQ of 50
A: Senator.

Q: What's the difference between an accountant and a lawyer?
A: Accountants know they're boring.

Q: What's the one thing that never works when it's fixed?
A: A jury.

Q: Why did God invent lawyers?
A: So that real estate agents would have someone to look down on.

Q: What's the difference between a vacuum cleaner and a lawyer on a motorcycle?
A: The vacuum cleaner has the dirt bag on the inside.

Q: What' the difference between a lawyer and a boxing referee?
A: A boxing referee doesn't get paid more for a longer fight.

Q: What's the difference between a good lawyer and a bad lawyer?
A: A bad lawyer makes your case drag on for years. A good lawyer makes it last even longer.

Q: What's the difference between a jellyfish and a lawyer?
A: One's a spineless, poisonous blob. The other is a form of sea life.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a trampoline?
A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a leech?
A: After you die, a leech stops sucking your blood.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and God?
A: God doesn't think he's a lawyer.

Q: How are an apple and a lawyer alike?
A: They both look good hanging from a tree.

Q: How can a pregnant woman tell that she's carrying a future lawyer?
A: She has an uncontrollable craving for bologna.

Q: How does an attorney sleep?
A: First he lies on one side, then he lies on the other.

Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
A: Only three. The rest are true stories.

Q: How many lawyers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Three, One to climb the ladder. One to shake it. And one to sue the ladder company.

Q: What are lawyers good for?
A: They make used car salesmen look good.

Q: What do dinosaurs and decent lawyers have in common?
A: They're both extinct.

Q: What do you call 25 attorneys buried up to their chins in cement?
A: Not enough cement.

Q: What do you call 25 skydiving lawyers?
A: Skeet.

Q: What do you call a lawyer gone bad.
A: Senator.

Q: What do you throw to a drowning lawyer?
A: His partners.

Q: What does a lawyer get when you give him Viagra?
A: Taller

Q: What's brown and looks really good on a lawyer?
A: A Doberman.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a liar?
A: The pronunciation.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a prostitute?
A: A prostitute will stop screwing you when you're dead.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a vulture?
A: The lawyer gets frequent flyer miles.

Q: What's the difference between a mosquito and a lawyer?
A: One is a blood-sucking parasite, the other is an insect.

Q: Why did God make snakes just before lawyers?
A: To practice.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a herd of buffalo?
A: The lawyer charges more.

Q: What's the difference between a tick and a lawyer?
A: The tick falls off when you are dead.

Q: What do you get when you cross a blonde and a lawyer?
A: I don't know. There are some things even a blonde won't do.

Q: Know how copper wire was invented?
A: Two lawyers were fighting over a penny.

Q: Why does the law society prohibit sex between lawyers and their clients?
A: To prevent clients from being billed twice for essentially the same service.

Q: What can a goose do, a duck can't, and a lawyer should?
A: Stick his bill up his ass.

Q: How can you tell when a lawyer is lying?
A: Their lips are moving.

Q: Why did New Jersey get all the toxic waste and California all the lawyers?
A: New Jersey got to pick first.

Q: Why don't lawyers go to the beach?
A: Cats keep trying to bury them.

Q: What do you call 5000 dead lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A: A good start!

Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead lawyer in the road?
A: There are skid marks in front of the skunk.

Q: Why won't sharks attack lawyers?
A: Professional courtesy.

Q: What do have when a lawyer is buried up to his neck in sand?
A: Not enough sand.

Q: How do you get a lawyer out of a tree?
A: Cut the rope.

Q: Do you know how to save a drowning lawyer?
A: Take your foot off his head.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a bucket of manure?
A: The bucket.

Q: What is the definition of a shame (as in "that's a shame")?
A: When a busload of lawyers goes off a cliff.

Q: What is the definition of a "crying shame"?
A: There was an empty seat.

Q: What do you get when you cross the Godfather with a lawyer?
A: An offer you can't understand

Q: Why is it that many lawyers have broken noses?
A: From chasing parked ambulances.

Q: Where can you find a good lawyer?
A: In the cemetery

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a gigolo?
A: A gigolo only screws one person at a time.

Q: What's the difference between a lawyer and a vampire?
A: A vampire only sucks blood at night.

Q: Why to lawyers wear neckties?
A: To keep the foreskin from crawling up their chins.

Q: What is the difference between a lawyer and a rooster?
A: When a rooster wakes up in the morning, its primal urge is to cluck defiance.

Q: How many law professors does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Hell, you need 250 just to lobby for the research grant.

Q: If you see a lawyer on a bicycle, why don't you swerve to hit him?
A: It might be your bicycle.

Q: What do you call a smiling, sober, courteous person at a bar association convention?
A: The caterer.

Q: Why do they bury lawyers under 20 feet of dirt?
A: Because deep down, they're really good people.

Q: Why are lawyers like nuclear weapons?
A: If one side has one, the other side has to get one. Once launched, they cannot be recalled. When they land, they screw up everything forever.

Q: What do lawyers and sperm have in common?
A: One in 3,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being.


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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: 67UWF ()
Date: August 02, 2017 07:23PM

bump

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: this guy is famous on FFU ()
Date: August 07, 2017 11:42PM

Donna Wrote:
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> I was sued by my lawyer, Phillip Leiser, for
> breach of contract. Of course, I did not breach
> the contract and probably neither did the other 57
> people he sued making the same claim. In my case,
> he lied about the representation he would provide.
> ...In any case, he has verbally
> assaulted calling me a number of not so nice names
> -- this assault was so bad that I had to ask a
> sherrif's deputy to accompany me on the elevator
> -- from where Phillip escaped on the very next
> floor. He was intimated by the presence of the
> deputy --


My, what a dreadful person!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: 7phmw ()
Date: August 08, 2017 07:56AM

Is it worth it Wrote:
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> Certain firms engage in the kind of no holds
> barred-roll in the mud-fight til the bitter end
> and to hell with the collateral damage litigation
> that even lawyers believe makes their profession
> look bad. Those firms are however exactly the
> kind of law firm that many clients want...until
> they see the littered landscape their victory has
> won them. At that point those clients also find
> out the firm that fought viciously for them is
> willing to be even more vicious when it comes to
> collecting their fees.

Why does this sound familiar.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Phillip Leiser the Cuckold ()
Date: August 13, 2017 09:28PM

Phillip Leiser doesn't like this site because it exposed him for being a cuckold when someone found and reposted his wife Karen Leiser's Craigslist ads seeking casual sex partners. Phillip Leiser was also in the Ashley Madison membership list that was posted here.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: ExperienceIsthe Greatest Teacher ()
Date: August 15, 2017 07:35PM

THAT Law firm.

Billing practices, record keeping, honesty and communication -- they need to work on these IMO.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: are they still in business? ()
Date: August 15, 2017 10:17PM

Because, they don't sound very professional!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Sleazer Law ()
Date: October 02, 2017 09:21AM

are they still in business? Wrote:
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> Because, they don't sound very professional!




Barely. The law firm recently moved into shared office space and the owner of the firm Phillip Leiser, is losing his house to foreclosure.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: He is an upstanding attorney ()
Date: November 11, 2017 07:03PM

Donna Wrote:
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> I was sued by my lawyer, Phillip Leiser, for
> breach of contract. Of course, I did not breach
> the contract and probably neither did the other 57
> people he sued making the same claim. In my case,
> he lied about the representation he would provide.
> I am not a person who doesn't pay my bills and I
> certainly did not owe him any more than the amount
> I paid. THe legal system, however, is not geared
> for the pro se litigant and he won -- with the
> exception that the judge ordered that $1K be
> returned to me for errors made on his part and for
> which I was billed. In any case, he has verbally
> assaulted calling me a number of not so nice names
> -- this assault was so bad that I had to ask a
> sherrif's deputy to accompany me on the elevator
> -- from where Phillip escaped on the very next
> floor. He was intimated by the presence of the
> deputy -- Now, I am suing his law firm for
> violation of the Virginia Consumer Protection Act.
> I filed, pro se, in general district court but he
> had it removed to circuit court. What a mess --
> I'll probably lose but I certainly am giving it a
> fighting chance.


His firm recently won a landmark claim against a cyber bully, setting new legal precedent! I expect to see him serving on the US Supreme Court within the next decade.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Mommy sucks other men's pee pees ()
Date: November 11, 2017 08:04PM

Sad
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Sexual assault ()
Date: November 11, 2017 08:07PM

Look on his face
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: what about his face? ()
Date: January 04, 2018 03:05AM

He's just enjoying Meade Skelton's latest performance.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: stop this shit! ()
Date: April 18, 2018 11:59PM

Phil doesn't like when we discuss him here.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: STEWMAC ()
Date: April 19, 2018 12:25PM

HA HA HA HAH HOLY SHIT DUDE THAT IS FUNNY!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: poor guy must hate this site. ()
Date: April 25, 2018 01:37AM

never good to incur the wrath of Fairfax Underground

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: my! what a dreadful person! ()
Date: May 13, 2018 07:32PM

But I hear he wins huge settlements.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Philandering Phil is homeless ()
Date: June 07, 2018 07:41PM

His home was foreclosed and sold.
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Phil is an upstanding man ()
Date: June 09, 2018 05:14AM

He represented that poor helpless fat autistic pedophile artist who was being teased by some psycho fat guy from Richmond. Now the autistic is a millionaire. Or almost was, anyway.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: regrets ()
Date: June 10, 2018 08:50PM

I'm sure phillip regrets taking the Moreno case every day of his life.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: are the still in business? ()
Date: July 04, 2018 01:32AM

Because, they haven't updated their web site in about two years

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: only a crazy person ()
Date: July 04, 2018 01:53AM

Would hire that money grubbing Jew

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: We all know that ()
Date: July 04, 2018 03:05AM

only a crazy person Wrote:
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> Would hire that money grubbing Jew

One already did and blew over $100k just to have the entire lawsuit thrown out when the defendant filed bankruptcy. It’s a really funny epic fail if you haven’t already heard.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: lizzie hired him too ()
Date: July 18, 2018 01:23AM

We all know that Wrote:
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> only a crazy person Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Would hire that money grubbing Jew
>
> One already did and blew over $100k just to have
> the entire lawsuit thrown out when the defendant
> filed bankruptcy. It’s a really funny epic fail
> if you haven’t already heard.


amd then ducked the bill! LOL!

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Being sued by debt collector ()
Date: March 17, 2019 12:16AM

=-=
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: his wife is cute ()
Date: March 25, 2019 07:59PM

in sort of a chubby way,,,,

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Fhhx ()
Date: March 25, 2019 09:01PM

One thing I’m not clear on: Did Leiser ever try to discuss these issues with you? It’s really bad form to sue a client, at a minimum.

He’s also stupid for representing himself.

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: kh6nv ()
Date: March 27, 2019 11:20AM

CSX trains carrying massive goods enter east DC (mostly supplying area, not incl. balto a corrupt port)

according to a 60 min. report, that depot is where nigs begin stealing goods - they (had) broken the CSX security system and were walking off with cargo before it even got to stores - raising the price on consumers, LOWERING what ever got to the fairfax area

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what does the lawyer say about goods steering (besides picked winners in gov) ?

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: kh6nv ()
Date: March 27, 2019 11:31AM

why would manufacturers allow their goods to be steered to an area totally in debt?

please explain the accounting principles where day books balance in this "situation"

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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ()
Date: April 13, 2019 05:14PM

He is an upstanding attorney Wrote:

> His firm recently won a landmark claim against a
> cyber bully, setting new legal precedent! I expect
> to see him serving on the US Supreme Court within
> the next decade.
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Re: Beware of this law firm
Posted by: Leiser Law LOLs ()
Date: April 13, 2019 06:48PM

There's an entire thread about the Lieser Law firm and David Trinnes here:

http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/40/2649927/page-1.html

Phil Leiser, Karen Leiser, and David Trinnes are all on the run from creditors or in bankruptcy.

Last year Phillip Leiser lost the biggest case of his career in federal court to an unemployed community college student.
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