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TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER ()
Date: June 03, 2015 11:50AM

The other day I was out where TRW used to be. What a horrible place it was to work. I worked there in the late 80s/early 90s. I remember Jack Dreyfus, Mike Hollowich, John Stenbit, what assholes they were. Stenbit's wife had some kind of deal to do all of the artwork in the buildings. It was horrible.

When TRW got bought out, Stenbit became some kind of bigshot in the Bush administration. Now he's at Mitre. Don't know about Dreyfus and Hollowich.

I went to SRA. It was a great company when Volgenau and Legasy ran it. Now it is just another faceless body shop. At least some of Volgenau's values are in place. TRW, on the other hand, never had any to begin with.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: jobzz ()
Date: June 03, 2015 12:06PM

I heard Mitre was a crappy place to work.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: No fan of SAIC ()
Date: June 03, 2015 12:16PM

I never worked at SAIC (now called Leidos) but I know people who did. It seems one of their managers, Sherry Girton set up a blacklist of people who should not be hired due to their medical conditions. This is illegal. They thought it was a good idea and did it anyway.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Contractor X ()
Date: June 03, 2015 12:23PM

Actually Leidos spun off of SAIC. Both currently exist and should be avoiding going after the same contracts....but they don't, and now that SAIC bought SCCITOR they will begin to compete against each other for work which will create legal issues/battles.... should be fun to watch.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Mike O'Meara Show Fan ()
Date: June 03, 2015 01:43PM

Aren't all food service and janitorial jobs pretty much the same?

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: peekza ()
Date: June 03, 2015 01:47PM

At least TRW paid their employees what they owed them...O'Meara's closed without paying dozens of people the thousands they were owed

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: good ole daze ()
Date: June 03, 2015 01:59PM

Remember working on a SAIC contract. No oversight. Stupid subs billing the fuck out of the project. 100-hour weeks. 80 hours was common. Contractors parking RVs on the lot so they could keep billing. At night, they were humping some 18 year old secretaries in the RV.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Contractor X ()
Date: June 03, 2015 02:11PM

jobzz Wrote:
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> I heard Mitre was a crappy place to work.


Mitre was a great place when I was there. Very interesting work, lots of different directions that you could go, great pay, and a good working environment. Yeah, some clients were a pain in the ass and there were a few people who were miserable fuckers to work with but most everyone I knew working there were relatively happy campers as far as Mitre itself was concerned.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: fast forward ()
Date: June 03, 2015 02:21PM

I wonder how many of them are now consultants to FCPS? Or, is there the same amount of work in the "war on terror" as there was getting ready to fight communists?

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: 46KJy ()
Date: June 03, 2015 02:25PM

I remember working for SAIC before they spun off Leidos. They actually weren't too bad to work for. It seemed like we were paid more than the average SRA employees.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: SAIC = Fail ()
Date: June 03, 2015 03:01PM

Isn't SAIC the outfit that built the multi billion FBI case management system, you know, the one that didn't work?

It seems these companies built a lot of things that didn't work. If the big war had happened, it might have turned out most of them didn't work.

Now, we just waste money on transgender bathrooms and trolley cars.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: trw ()
Date: June 03, 2015 03:14PM

Simon Ramo (the R in TRW) is 102 and still alive.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Imagery analyst ()
Date: June 03, 2015 03:47PM

SAIC was my favorite place to work. People worked long hours though. Felt like a sitting contest of who wanted to keep their job.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Imagery analyst ()
Date: June 03, 2015 03:47PM

SAIC was my favorite place to work. People worked long hours though. Felt like a sitting contest of who wanted to keep their job.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Mike O'Meara Show Fan ()
Date: June 03, 2015 04:51PM

I worked on a SPAWAR contract for the Navy at Booz-Allen and they had a strict ''no fucking weepy pussies'' policy. Good thing for some of you guys that your companies didn't.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Back in the Day ()
Date: June 03, 2015 05:53PM

I was a CO-OP student at TRW when I was going to Virginia Tech. Worked there Winter and Summer Quarters. I kind of liked it there. That was 74-76.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: happy hours ()
Date: June 03, 2015 06:25PM

Back in the day it was common to keep bottles of booze in your bottom desk drawer. Then about noon on Fridays (and other days) impromptu happy hours would begin. There was several hours of heavy social drinking literally every Friday. Good times, and we still got work done.

There were big changes after the Christopher Boyce (Falcon and the Snowman) incident.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Interesting ()
Date: June 03, 2015 06:32PM

I used to be a defense contractor in DC for the Navy for 10 years, best job ever except for working for knuckle draggers. Some employees spending more time sleeping at their desks, wandering the internet or socializing than actually doing anything productive. Working for the Feds was 50/50, most were very nice. There were those who acted like their shit didn't stink, they had a bad day and they would get in your face and yell at you. There was nothing you could do about it, boss would tell you to suck it up. I miss not working for the Navy but not the 3 hour commute going to work and 3 hours to get home.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Big Fish Little Fish ()
Date: June 03, 2015 09:39PM

TRW bought the company I worked for in Tysons, BDM, then got bought by Northrop Grumman. I've had good jobs and bad jobs over the years, but on paper I've worked for the same place for 25. My 401k is huge and I'll be enjoying a nice pension. Enjoy your ramen noodles in your retirement. Oh that's right, you'll be working at your shit jobs until you die, probably while whining at your desk about your 1% raise.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: juuVC ()
Date: June 03, 2015 11:12PM


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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: DmkNw ()
Date: June 03, 2015 11:14PM

^^ whichever CEO fired that guy i bet didn't have as much time in the company or really - as much right to say he owned the place - and especially the retirement moment he chose

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Home D Dick ()
Date: June 03, 2015 11:40PM

Maybe when u realize ur huge 401k isn't worth dick in this century, and ur skills r worthless, u wouldn't be such a prick. Just saying'

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: They Ended My Contract? ()
Date: June 04, 2015 12:08PM

SAIC = Fail Wrote:
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>
> It seems these companies built a lot of things
> that didn't work. If the big war had happened, it
> might have turned out most of them didn't work.
>

In the early 2000's the IRS was flush with $1 billion+ for the "IRS Modernization" project. NG, CSC, IBM, everyone got a piece of the pie, and I doubt much, if any of the money spent created any useable systems. But that wasn't the point - all the contractors got a ton of money.

At a little office building in Merrifield, a TRW, then NG effort called the "Custodial Accounting Project (CAP)" lurched along for ten years, and didn't produce one piece of production software. But that wasn't the point.

Contractors were literally living in the building, billing 80-100+ hours a week (several at well over $100/hour as 1099s), and as an obvious byproduct, building new houses, buying new cars and enjoying life.

Sadly in 2006, someone at the IRS woke up and pulled the plug on CAP. It was a tragedy.

Another fine example of your tax dollars at work.

The people who worked on that boondoggle should hang their heads in shame as they sip this afternoon's first glass of Johnny Walker Blue Label, and ponder the view of the Shenandoah Valley from the living room of their custom-built, 4,000 sf bungalo, paid with those hard-earned CAP dollars.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Back 2 da Fyucha ()
Date: June 04, 2015 12:15PM

In the 90s TRW had a contract with the IRS called CHEXS. Check Processing Expert System or something like that.

The idea was to tell if a piece of mail had a check in it or not.

TRW spent a fortune of the IRS' money with no results.

Then it turned out some little company already had it solved with some kind of infrared scanner. TRW tried to buy them. They did not want to be bought.

The little company told the IRS they had the solution. The IRS yanked TRW's contract. Oops, the little company folded.

Why couldn't TRW, which SUPPOSEDLY built ballistic missiles and spy satellites solve such a simple problem? You have to wonder about these companies.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: I Cane Kode Java ()
Date: June 04, 2015 03:07PM

Back 2 da Fyucha Wrote:
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>
> Why couldn't TRW, which SUPPOSEDLY built ballistic
> missiles and spy satellites solve such a simple
> problem? You have to wonder about these companies.

That's a good question. If NG, IBM, CSC and their hoards of sub contractors can't "modernize" any of the IRS's antiquated IT systems with a multi-billion dollar budget - what can they be trusted to do?

Well, it's simple, the government trusts them to spend YOUR tax dollars.

It's not hard to dig into the GSA's website and find contract terms and hourly rates paid for all labor categories. You would think there'd be a revolution if it was common knowledge that big company "A" gets a $500/hour rate for a Java programmer; then sub-contracts the work to company "B" for $145/hour and the Java programmer turns out to be some H1B visa drone making $28/hour.

But the system is intact, Company A and B make money, and that's the important point.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Waterborne ()
Date: June 04, 2015 03:43PM

Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
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> I worked on a SPAWAR contract for the Navy at
> Booz-Allen and they had a strict ''no fucking
> weepy pussies'' policy. Good thing for some of
> you guys that your companies didn't.


Booz-Allen sucked at submmarines, though. As a contractor to the same program office, we had to watermark any .pdf files we sent BAH since they were famous for intellectual property theft.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Pot, Kettle, Black ()
Date: June 04, 2015 04:14PM

They make fun of the new Russian fighter planes. But what have our planes ever fought, ancient Russian planes from the 1960s. Don't forget the SERBIANS managed to shoot down a so-called stealth plane.

I'll bet none of this stuff works worth a damn.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: TRW Teddie ()
Date: June 04, 2015 04:45PM

Pot, Kettle, Black Wrote:
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> They make fun of the new Russian fighter planes.
> But what have our planes ever fought, ancient
> Russian planes from the 1960s. Don't forget the
> SERBIANS managed to shoot down a so-called stealth
> plane.
>
> I'll bet none of this stuff works worth a damn.

Well said. If TRW/NG can't create a taxpayer database identifying who paid what when (which would have replaced the ancient, tape-based IRS master file that's been running since the 60's at least) given more or less a blank check and ten years, are they really capable of building?

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Nice Guy Eddie ()
Date: June 04, 2015 09:45PM

Contractor X Wrote:
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> Actually Leidos spun off of SAIC. Both currently
> exist and should be avoiding going after the same
> contracts....but they don't, and now that SAIC
> bought SCCITOR they will begin to compete against
> each other for work which will create legal
> issues/battles.... should be fun to watch.

Always thought the OCI excuse was crap. They really wanted to separate the high end work from the low end work.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Nice Guy Eddie ()
Date: June 04, 2015 09:49PM

They Ended My Contract? Wrote:
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> SAIC = Fail Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > It seems these companies built a lot of things
> > that didn't work. If the big war had happened,
> it
> > might have turned out most of them didn't work.
>
> >
>
> In the early 2000's the IRS was flush with $1
> billion+ for the "IRS Modernization" project. NG,
> CSC, IBM, everyone got a piece of the pie, and I
> doubt much, if any of the money spent created any
> useable systems. But that wasn't the point - all
> the contractors got a ton of money.
>
> At a little office building in Merrifield, a TRW,
> then NG effort called the "Custodial Accounting
> Project (CAP)" lurched along for ten years, and
> didn't produce one piece of production software.
> But that wasn't the point.
>
> Contractors were literally living in the building,
> billing 80-100+ hours a week (several at well over
> $100/hour as 1099s), and as an obvious byproduct,
> building new houses, buying new cars and enjoying
> life.
>
> Sadly in 2006, someone at the IRS woke up and
> pulled the plug on CAP. It was a tragedy.
>
> Another fine example of your tax dollars at work.
>
>
> The people who worked on that boondoggle should
> hang their heads in shame as they sip this
> afternoon's first glass of Johnny Walker Blue
> Label, and ponder the view of the Shenandoah
> Valley from the living room of their custom-built,
> 4,000 sf bungalo, paid with those hard-earned CAP
> dollars.

You'd be hard pressed to find any large company that didn't have a scandal at some point. Comes with the territory. When they keep occurring is when you know you've got an institutional problem.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: EDS ate too ()
Date: June 04, 2015 10:06PM

They Ended My Contract? Wrote:
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> SAIC = Fail Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > It seems these companies built a lot of things
> > that didn't work. If the big war had happened,
> it
> > might have turned out most of them didn't work.
>
> >
>
> In the early 2000's the IRS was flush with $1
> billion+ for the "IRS Modernization" project. NG,
> CSC, IBM, everyone got a piece of the pie, and I
> doubt much, if any of the money spent created any
> useable systems. But that wasn't the point - all
> the contractors got a ton of money.
>

I know someone who worked at EDS during that period on an IRS contract. The IRS wasted lots of money and had a lot of not-so-bright employees, some of them managing programs IT projects when they could barely turn on a computer.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: MartinsburgDC ()
Date: June 05, 2015 10:50AM

EDS ate too Wrote:
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>
> I know someone who worked at EDS during that
> period on an IRS contract. The IRS wasted lots of
> money and had a lot of not-so-bright employees,
> some of them managing programs IT projects when
> they could barely turn on a computer.

That's true of the modernization era, and to compound the issue, the IRS employees absolutely hated the contractors. The IRS staff would jerk the contractors around, e.g., demanding people drive to the Martinsburg, WV computing center on short notice (most contractors worked in God-forsaken New Carrollton, MD), and after a 70-mile trip, the IRS staff would deny access to the facility, saying an access form required 24 hours in advance hadn't been submitted to security. I'm sure the IRS staffers got a good laugh as the contractors stared through the security gates like lost puppies, then truged back to their cars for the long trip back to New Carrollton, but on the plus side all that time was billable!!

There were no good guys in this tale of wasted billion$ - the IRS didn't want the systems being built for them because it would disrupt their comfy lifestyle, and the contractors, deep down, knew they weren't building anything useful other than billable hours.

In the end, the taxpayers wound up footing the bill for for a big pile of nothing.

But the IRS mess is old news and no lessons were learned, I've heard stories of DoD failed programs that make the IRS situation amount to small change.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: The Joke Is On… ()
Date: June 05, 2015 02:39PM

MartinsburgDC Wrote:
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> EDS ate too Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > I know someone who worked at EDS during that
> > period on an IRS contract. The IRS wasted lots
> of
> > money and had a lot of not-so-bright employees,
> > some of them managing programs IT projects when
> > they could barely turn on a computer.
>
> That's true of the modernization era, and to
> compound the issue, the IRS employees absolutely
> hated the contractors. The IRS staff would jerk
> the contractors around, e.g., demanding people
> drive to the Martinsburg, WV computing center on
> short notice (most contractors worked in
> God-forsaken New Carrollton, MD), and after a
> 70-mile trip, the IRS staff would deny access to
> the facility, saying an access form required 24
> hours in advance hadn't been submitted to
> security. I'm sure the IRS staffers got a good
> laugh as the contractors stared through the
> security gates like lost puppies, then truged back
> to their cars for the long trip back to New
> Carrollton, but on the plus side all that time was
> billable!!
>
> There were no good guys in this tale of wasted
> billion$ - the IRS didn't want the systems being
> built for them because it would disrupt their
> comfy lifestyle, and the contractors, deep down,
> knew they weren't building anything useful other
> than billable hours.
>
> In the end, the taxpayers wound up footing the
> bill for for a big pile of nothing.
>
> But the IRS mess is old news and no lessons were
> learned, I've heard stories of DoD failed programs
> that make the IRS situation amount to small
> change.

If some one had called the IRS IG on these meeting call outs someone would have been in deep doodoo.

If they are still doing it, another scandal for Koskinen to try and ignore.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Security Clearance Blues ()
Date: August 26, 2015 01:18PM

If someone can even suggest that Russian/Chinese hackers are behind this Ashley Madison thing, "members" with clearances are probably toast. These people will be designated as potential targets and their clearances will be revoked.

Some right away, but by the time they have their 5 year update, for sure.

DoD was pretty lax about certain clearance issues-Operation Tailhook and so on. DHS, now running the show, sees terrorists everywhere. I'm surprised they don't stake out the local Chinese buffet.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Tony the tiger ()
Date: August 26, 2015 03:16PM

> I know someone who worked at EDS during that
> period on an IRS contract. The IRS wasted lots of
> money and had a lot of not-so-bright employees,
> some of them managing programs IT projects when
> they could barely turn on a computer.


Sounds about right for the federal government

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: OldSkool1099 ()
Date: August 26, 2015 03:38PM

Tony the tiger Wrote:
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> > I know someone who worked at EDS during that
> > period on an IRS contract. The IRS wasted lots
> of
> > money and had a lot of not-so-bright employees,
> > some of them managing programs IT projects when
> > they could barely turn on a computer.
>
>
It's not just EDS, CSC, NG, Lockheed, Booz Allen etc., just move the not so brights from one contract to another, the game is staying billable, not actually doing anything...

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Tired Federal Taxpayer ()
Date: August 26, 2015 08:30PM

You Beltway Bandits are as big a group of scum as the actual government employees downtown.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: FredFromMars ()
Date: August 27, 2015 10:04PM

Contractor X Wrote:
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> Actually Leidos spun off of SAIC. Both currently
> exist and should be avoiding going after the same
> contracts....but they don't, and now that SAIC
> bought SCCITOR they will begin to compete against
> each other for work which will create legal
> issues/battles.... should be fun to watch.


Yep. During the split, they talked it up like the Leidos side of things was going to be awesome and the SAIC side was all the fuck-up programs that the company wanted to get rid of. Funny how SAIC did pretty good right out of the blocks after the split and Leidos tanked hard. Had a lot of layoffs like most of the DoD contractors did. No raises for the past 3 years, maybe 1% if you were lucky. No bonuses unless you were management.

Leidos is outsourcing everything these days. Travel, IT, facilities management. Some of this has been farmed out for a while now, but other stuff is being changed over now. I am pretty sure that they will start outsourcing my job if it is cheaper. In my case, like the work I do, just hate the people I do it for. Pretty incompetent and the buddy system is in full effect. Even hiring buddies of the Gov't personnel to curry favor but sold to the rest as a needed person to straighten things out.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Kb4CN ()
Date: August 27, 2015 11:03PM

I was told competitors used to call them TRWonderful in a mocking way because their managers and BD guys were so full of themselves.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: lwhedd ()
Date: August 28, 2015 10:40PM

Security Clearance Blues Wrote:
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> If someone can even suggest that Russian/Chinese
> hackers are behind this Ashley Madison thing,
> "members" with clearances are probably toast.
> These people will be designated as potential
> targets and their clearances will be revoked.
>
> Some right away, but by the time they have their 5
> year update, for sure.
>
> DoD was pretty lax about certain clearance
> issues-Operation Tailhook and so on. DHS, now
> running the show, sees terrorists everywhere. I'm
> surprised they don't stake out the local Chinese
> buffet.

Sat across from a married contractor who spent all day surfing dating sites. When he wasn't doing that, he was bragging about not filing tax returns and not having any withholding. Now that OPM, IRS, and AM web sites have been hacked, they should cross-reference those sites.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: xYGGP ()
Date: August 29, 2015 07:42AM

As a former SAIC temp (in McLean office), I did a majority of the actual work (producing reports and spreadsheets for the executives in multiple databases) for $11 per hour while the employees who made $70k a year+++ sat back and watched me work.

They thanked me profusely, treated me well, brought me donuts and coffee every morning, I could come and go as I pleased, dressed casual and they still paid me for 40 hours....Then in the meetings, they would discuss all the work THEY did and took all the credit for the ideas/information I had written.

I quit after 6 months of this, they wanted to extend my contract but it got old real quick being paid less than the receptionist and here I was doing top-level work....

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: wnTnL ()
Date: August 29, 2015 08:03AM

xYGGP Wrote:
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> As a former SAIC temp (in McLean office), I did a
> majority of the actual work (producing reports and
> spreadsheets for the executives in multiple
> databases) for $11 per hour while the employees
> who made $70k a year+++ sat back and watched me
> work.
>
> They thanked me profusely, treated me well,
> brought me donuts and coffee every morning, I
> could come and go as I pleased, dressed casual and
> they still paid me for 40 hours....Then in the
> meetings, they would discuss all the work THEY did
> and took all the credit for the ideas/information
> I had written.
>
> I quit after 6 months of this, they wanted to
> extend my contract but it got old real quick being
> paid less than the receptionist and here I was
> doing top-level work....

They still paid you for 40 hours at $11/hr. You make it seem as if you made out like a champ witha whopping $440 per week. What a complete joke, you have no clue how much they're billing and what they're making, it's certainly MUCH more than 70k.

If I was to spend 2 hours producing a report, the cost of that report has far exceeded you entire weeks pay. That's why they sit back and watch you do the mindless work.

Get a clue.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: xYGGP ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:04AM

wnTnL Wrote:
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> xYGGP Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > As a former SAIC temp (in McLean office), I did
> a
> > majority of the actual work (producing reports
> and
> > spreadsheets for the executives in multiple
> > databases) for $11 per hour while the employees
> > who made $70k a year+++ sat back and watched me
> > work.
> >
> > They thanked me profusely, treated me well,
> > brought me donuts and coffee every morning, I
> > could come and go as I pleased, dressed casual
> and
> > they still paid me for 40 hours....Then in the
> > meetings, they would discuss all the work THEY
> did
> > and took all the credit for the
> ideas/information
> > I had written.
> >
> > I quit after 6 months of this, they wanted to
> > extend my contract but it got old real quick
> being
> > paid less than the receptionist and here I was
> > doing top-level work....
>
> They still paid you for 40 hours at $11/hr. You
> make it seem as if you made out like a champ witha
> whopping $440 per week. What a complete joke,
> you have no clue how much they're billing and what
> they're making, it's certainly MUCH more than
> 70k.
>
> If I was to spend 2 hours producing a report, the
> cost of that report has far exceeded you entire
> weeks pay. That's why they sit back and watch you
> do the mindless work.
>
> Get a clue.

Who said I was "balling" or "raking it in" LOL the temp agency was for billing 4x that and paying me peanuts and so was SAIC off my hard work!!! I KNOW the SAIC person made 70k because THEY TOLD ME SO AND SHOWED ME A PAYSTUB, trying to convince ME to get a job there.

I was complaining I was sorely underpaid for the work that I did! I literally did their work for them!!!

Blue's clues! You just got a letter! Written by me! Haha I am already well aware of how the game works, that is why I got OUT.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: tFW7H ()
Date: August 29, 2015 09:46AM

xYGGP Wrote:
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> wnTnL Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > xYGGP Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > As a former SAIC temp (in McLean office), I
> did
> > a
> > > majority of the actual work (producing
> reports
> > and
> > > spreadsheets for the executives in multiple
> > > databases) for $11 per hour while the
> employees
> > > who made $70k a year+++ sat back and watched
> me
> > > work.
> > >
> > > They thanked me profusely, treated me well,
> > > brought me donuts and coffee every morning, I
> > > could come and go as I pleased, dressed
> casual
> > and
> > > they still paid me for 40 hours....Then in
> the
> > > meetings, they would discuss all the work
> THEY
> > did
> > > and took all the credit for the
> > ideas/information
> > > I had written.
> > >
> > > I quit after 6 months of this, they wanted to
> > > extend my contract but it got old real quick
> > being
> > > paid less than the receptionist and here I
> was
> > > doing top-level work....
> >
> > They still paid you for 40 hours at $11/hr.
> You
> > make it seem as if you made out like a champ
> witha
> > whopping $440 per week. What a complete joke,
> > you have no clue how much they're billing and
> what
> > they're making, it's certainly MUCH more than
> > 70k.
> >
> > If I was to spend 2 hours producing a report,
> the
> > cost of that report has far exceeded you entire
> > weeks pay. That's why they sit back and watch
> you
> > do the mindless work.
> >
> > Get a clue.
>
> Who said I was "balling" or "raking it in" LOL the
> temp agency was for billing 4x that and paying me
> peanuts and so was SAIC off my hard work!!! I KNOW
> the SAIC person made 70k because THEY TOLD ME SO
> AND SHOWED ME A PAYSTUB, trying to convince ME to
> get a job there.
>
> I was complaining I was sorely underpaid for the
> work that I did! I literally did their work for
> them!!!
>
> Blue's clues! You just got a letter! Written by
> me! Haha I am already well aware of how the game
> works, that is why I got OUT.

I hope you understand that 70k is still peanuts.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: BW Bandit ()
Date: August 29, 2015 02:13PM

Today, They are all crap employers I cry about it sitting in my sauna before I hop in my indoor pool.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: CSC Is the Next in Line ()
Date: August 29, 2015 04:34PM

CSC appears to be very similar. Also, they are laying off thousands and replacing them with H-1B and L-1 visa holders from India.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: onlookers ()
Date: August 31, 2015 09:38PM

TRW was a credit reporting agency, right? A bunch of vultures.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: Mickey Mouse Show Fan ()
Date: August 31, 2015 10:18PM

Mike O'Meara Show Fan Wrote:
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> Aren't all food service and janitorial jobs pretty
> much the same?


Personal experience?

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: iLester ()
Date: August 31, 2015 11:14PM

Security Clearance Blues Wrote:
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> If someone can even suggest that Russian/Chinese
> hackers are behind this Ashley Madison thing,
> "members" with clearances are probably toast.
> These people will be designated as potential
> targets and their clearances will be revoked.
>
> Some right away, but by the time they have their 5
> year update, for sure.
>
> DoD was pretty lax about certain clearance
> issues-Operation Tailhook and so on. DHS, now
> running the show, sees terrorists everywhere. I'm
> surprised they don't stake out the local Chinese
> buffet.

Hunter Biden.

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Re: TRW was a CRAP EMPLOYER
Posted by: GhKGN ()
Date: September 01, 2015 08:48PM

tFW7H Wrote:
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>
> I hope you understand that 70k is still peanuts.

For the printing-press class, yes. Those of us in business with real paying customers (Americans) who are not in law or medicine... 70k is decent. Doesn't mean you can live well on it here though.

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