Who is to blame?

Is it the transplants who relocate here thinking this area is the promised land?
Is it the illegals who pack 50 non related people into single family homes?
Is it the house flippers who buy houses for the sole purpose of making a fast buck?

The house flippers are the dirtiest scum on earth. The transplants and the illegals are not far behind. FU-K THE FLIPPERS.

Housewives with average appearances but who demand way too much cant be too far behind the house flippers.

Bitch you replaceable. So know your place and just shut the fuck up.

How about the crushing taxes, with proposals for many more? Billions for the schools to hire educational coaches, administrators and unqualified consultants, to say nothing of conferences and nice meals for the school board members.

What i want to know is- why are there NO apartments in Fairfax county for < $1,000 a month ANYWHERE in the county????

With the "rentx36= income required" rule- one has to make 36 grand a year (or ~$17.30 an hour FT 40 hours weekly) just to QUALIFY. (Source- various apartment applications I have filled out and was denied due to low income....)

Sucks for those of us only making $11-17 per hour- that's all most companies want to pay now for help. I am currently making $15 an hour (started @12 per last year so I did get raises/promoted) and work for a fortune 100 company WITH A DEGREE so I am stuck living with family until I get another raise.

It woud help if Fairfax County had more studio apartments, but those go for $1100 plus as is!!!

I guess my only way in is to do what my ""illegal" friend did- fake a company/paystubs to make up the difference.

I have NO DEBT (no student loans, no car loans, nothing but a small credit card with <500 balance thats IT!!!) so could easily afford the say $1,200/month rent....but get denied due to my low income. FICO is 710 so it's NOT my credit!!!

I even tried the "low income" apartments- and got waitlisted while I watched my illegal friend get in on her first try (we BOTH applied on a monday, she was told she could sign a lease for a 2 bedroom that friday...where I was told there were "none available right now".....helps she is hispanic and I'm not!!!)

This county caters to the illegals now. You can expect to see more and more arrivals in the near future.

Who is to blame? Wrote:
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> Who is to blame for ruining the cost of living
> in this area?
>
> Who is to blame?

Ronald Wilson Reagan.

He created "government contracting" (the outsourcing of work done by governmental agencies to the private sector).

Government contracting has created vast wealth in the DC Metro area.

Vast wealth in the DC Metro area has driven up the cost of living.

Who is to blame? Wrote:
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> Who is to blame?
>
> Is it the transplants who relocate here thinking
> this area is the promised land?
> Is it the illegals who pack 50 non related people
> into single family homes?
> Is it the house flippers who buy houses for the
> sole purpose of making a fast buck?


Flipping has made me a very rich man. The cost of living here is dirt fucking cheap as far as I am concerned. I was a county firefighter 15 years ago, fuck that low paying, thankless job!

Vast wealth in the DC Metro area Wrote:
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> Who is to blame? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is to blame for ruining the cost of living
> > in this area?
> >
> > Who is to blame?
>
> Ronald Wilson Reagan.
>
> He created "government contracting" (the
> outsourcing of work done by governmental agencies
> to the private sector).
>
> Government contracting has created vast wealth in
> the DC Metro area.
>
> Vast wealth in the DC Metro area has driven up the
> cost of living.

Government leeching. I forgot to mention that one. Thanks for the reminder.

Flipper McGee Wrote:
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> Who is to blame? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Who is to blame?
> >
> > Is it the transplants who relocate here
> thinking
> > this area is the promised land?
> > Is it the illegals who pack 50 non related
> people
> > into single family homes?
> > Is it the house flippers who buy houses for the
> > sole purpose of making a fast buck?
>
>
> Flipping has made me a very rich man. The cost of
> living here is dirt fucking cheap as far as I am
> concerned. I was a county firefighter 15 years
> ago, fuck that low paying, thankless job!

I knew it. It was only a matter of time until you would chime in on this topic.

Sounds like some of you assume that the problem started at some point after 2000, but I think you can trace it back to the 1970s.

Who is to blame? Wrote:
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> Who is to blame?
>
> Is it the transplants who relocate here thinking
> this area is the promised land?
> Is it the illegals who pack 50 non related people
> into single family homes?
> Is it the house flippers who buy houses for the
> sole purpose of making a fast buck?


All of the above.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Sounds like some of you assume that the problem
> started at some point after 2000, but I think you
> can trace it back to the 1970s.

The problem got worse after the year 2000.

After 9/11, federal government and contractor spending went through the roof, creating a consistent strong local economy. Contrast that with the economies in other cities, and you can see why housing is at a premium.

Job availability raises housing prices. Toss in a decent school system, and yeah, prices are pretty dang high.

Flipper McSH-T:

You are lowest of the scum in this area. Hope a bus hits you tomorrow and you go into a comma.

>Is it the house flippers who buy houses for the sole purpose of making a fast buck?

Mostly Arabs, when the market dived you should have seen how many of em were holding the bag on their last deals.

They like easy work and EZ money, Ever seen a Arab working construction??

FDR is to blame. Women stayed home.

Rosie the riveter came into the workforce.

Because of that:

You need 2 incomes to afford a house.

You need 2 incomes to afford child care.

You have to work harder to pay others to do things you are now too tired to do.

You pay someone to mow your lawn. It's usually Pedro fresh from Mexico.

You eat at restaurants because your wife can't cook.

She's been sold a bill of goods, that she can have it all.

Scumbags

rent too damn high Wrote:
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> What i want to know is- why are there NO
> apartments in Fairfax county for < $1,000 a month
> ANYWHERE in the county????
>
> With the "rentx36= income required" rule- one has
> to make 36 grand a year (or ~$17.30 an hour FT 40
> hours weekly) just to QUALIFY. (Source- various
> apartment applications I have filled out and was
> denied due to low income....)
>
> Sucks for those of us only making $11-17 per hour-
> that's all most companies want to pay now for
> help. I am currently making $15 an hour (started
> @12 per last year so I did get raises/promoted)
> and work for a fortune 100 company WITH A DEGREE
> so I am stuck living with family until I get
> another raise.
>
> It woud help if Fairfax County had more studio
> apartments, but those go for $1100 plus as is!!!
>
> I guess my only way in is to do what my ""illegal"
> friend did- fake a company/paystubs to make up the
> difference.
>
> I have NO DEBT (no student loans, no car loans,
> nothing but a small credit card with <500 balance
> thats IT!!!) so could easily afford the say
> $1,200/month rent....but get denied due to my low
> income. FICO is 710 so it's NOT my credit!!!
>
> I even tried the "low income" apartments- and got
> waitlisted while I watched my illegal friend get
> in on her first try (we BOTH applied on a monday,
> she was told she could sign a lease for a 2
> bedroom that friday...where I was told there were
> "none available right now".....helps she is
> hispanic and I'm not!!!)


I lived in a two bedroom years back and when my roommate moved out, I hadn't found a new one yet by the time the lease renewed. I technically didn't make enough on my own to qualify but they let me show them a bank statement showing them I had the difference between my salary and the required salary in the bank and that was enough to let me qualify. That may work for you.

So, for example (I can't remember the numbers so I'm guesstimating here) - I needed to make $36000 to qualify but I only made $34000. I showed them I had the extra 2 grand in a savings account at my bank and that was enough to help me qualify.

You know the bubble is bursting when people are flipping homes. Too bad DC never really experienced a recession - its coming...

Don't hate the house flippers, we fix up homes and improve neighborhoods. Hate on the slumlords who buy rental properties and rent out all the rooms for max NOI.

My neighbors all thanked me when I bought a home on my street, with all cash that no one could have been able to finance. I fixed it up, rented it for 1 year and sold it. Took a decrepit house and made it one of the nicest on my street. I did it just to improve my street, the money made really wasn't much especially considering the effort and all the money it ties up.

You can thank all the irresponsible fuckers who bought homes they couldn't afford, or those who stopped paying their mortgage and declared bankruptcy just because they were underwater regardless of them actually being able to pay the mortgage if they really wanted to. The responsible ones either held on or brought a big check when it came time to sell.

Worse post 2000 Wrote:
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> Bill.N. Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > can trace it back to the 1970s.
>
> The problem got worse after the year 2000.

I agree. However they were on the downhill slide before that. I remember in 2002 a number of us were at a meeting and the question was asked "Who here could afford to buy his or her house today?" Only me and one other person said we could. Even renting was becoming a problem.

serious question Wrote:
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> FDR is to blame. Women stayed home.
>
> Rosie the riveter came into the workforce.

In the early 1940s...

> You need 2 incomes to afford a house, etc.

...didn't happen until the late 1970s.

So I wouldn't blame FDR or WWII.

Look @ this NPR study on how living in Fairfax County, VA adds another $3,749 to annual incomes of poor kids that grew up in this area (dated May 4th of this year, see the graph in the story):


http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/04/403575638/where-poor-kids-grow-up-makes-a-huge-difference

Anyone and everyone on section 8 is trying to move to Fairfax for the better lifestyle- and since a vast majority of section 8 are immigrants....there it is.
They simply want a better lifestyle for their kids and are willing to live 10 to a $1,700 a month 2 bedroom apartment to have their kids go to school here....

And of course since the immigrannts are now a majority of the county workers- guess what, the hispanic or indian (dot) are going to get picked for the public housing FIRST.

The high cost of living in Northern Virginia is a reflection of the very strong economy and the desire of people to live here. There are plenty of cities with low housing prices but there are also fewer jobs in these areas.

republicans are suffering from $8T of democrats printing their way into power. which used to come with a death penalty mind you. (8 10^12)/((256 10^6)/4

($125,000) per citizen owed by "our dear gov family yr 2000's"

Owed. is it any wonder law suits are demanding it ? not a single. (per citizen that isn't a gov worker or is in a family of abusive non-sharing gov workers or profiting largely off insider gov) (legal citizens). a conservative est. of disparity yet appauling before a real count.

busch and clinton began with debt and spent allot too: yes. to the tune of $8 trillion more, 8x more, than than their predecessor ? NO

i highly doubt ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD isn't composed of rich political families / mobs who's first priority isn't controlling the printing of fake money: inflationary debt (in all economic cycles), criminal

facist central, the UN, is based NY,NY i hear. they help to legitimize each other's authority of debt. and it's been any country EXCEPT the usa which has had quick growth during it, ssince it is USA taking a backstabbing dive that (first) drove it. UN attacks countries: ie, 15-20 militaries attacking one.

^^ as much as that is. one clearly sees DEMOCRAT controlled areas (county/municipality) flagrantly killing the budget of the areas they are in, from surplus to billions of debt they NEVER had any intention of collecting in tax which is (in VA) absolutely illegal

You might want to do some research on why Fairfax County and the surrounding suburban sprawl exists in the first place. My gut is that a lot of these suburban "communities" gained a lot of traction because of the crack wars in DC during the 80s. That combined with the fact that almost all of the transplants to this area or DC are working well paying (50k+) jobs and you have yourself a community originally geared toward those folks. Now that the suburbs around DC are huge clusters of neighborhoods there are other folks who move here without a job or because they have family here or because they hear about how there are "great" jobs here. The point is that the area around DC was originally created with middle upper class and upper class folks in mind and because the county can't just knock down housing or take your land (there are exceptions, but I don't think making livable real estate is one of them) and build cheap housing on it, so we're stuck.