Does anyone have any details about the condition of the kid who was stabbed on John Milton Drive tonight?

Bob Haven Wrote:
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> Does anyone have any details about the condition
> of the kid who was stabbed on John Milton Drive
> tonight?


Police said he was in serious but stable condition. Apparently both boys go to South Lakes. Neither boy lives in Fox Mill. Victim was airlifted by helicopter from Fox Mill Elem School. (Stabbing took place 1 block from FMES.) Victim was able to call 2 friends (not sure it before or after stabbing) who showed up at the scene. Police questioned them.Police know who the perp is (I assume victim was able to tell them) but he hasn't been captured yet (as of 10PM.)

According to the pals, Colin Metzger stabbed Drake Souther...drug deal gone bad. But what were they doing in Fox Mill...far from their turf. Colin is on the run...

SLHS best and brightest Wrote:
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> According to the pals, Colin Metzger stabbed Drake
> Souther...drug deal gone bad. But what were they
> doing in Fox Mill...far from their turf. Colin is
> on the run...


Other way around. Collin was the victim.

A lot of walking traffic in that area tonight. This evening was the FMES Japanese Festival.

Nooooooooo, Colin stabbed Drake

Bob Haven Wrote:
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> Does anyone have any details about the condition
> of the kid who was stabbed on John Milton Drive
> tonight?

Stabbing?? Wow. Nice to see someone's still doing wet work. It's a break from the usual shooting. Must be old school.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/09/2009 12:27AM by trogdor!.

it wasnt me!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

weed and stupid things like that are not worth killing stabbing shooting for I know to many people this type of thing has happened to. not to say selling or having pot is not a bad thing but its just high school have your fun experimenting but dont go around robbing and stabbing people. Reston is getting ridiculous. I've know that kid for a very long time he's not a bad kid.

Gravis Wrote:
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> it wasnt me!


Yes it was, we know it was you. I'm so calling the cops now.

Two stabbings in Fox Mill in a month.

See, this is what happens when we redistrict into South Lakes!

(Kidding)

I hope the kid is OK. What happened to good ole' fist fights? Jiminy Christmas!

Mel Wrote:
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> Two stabbings in Fox Mill in a month.
>
> See, this is what happens when we redistrict into
> South Lakes!
>
Sad but true, unfortunately.

Drake got stabbed by Collin who is a local drug dealer.


I know this because I know Drake....

Collin is a bad kid, hes fucking crazy. He lit part of the school of fire last year and didnt get expelled like he should have. Hes a fucking pot head who was desperate for some money.....and now hes on the run

Also, drakes doing fine.

SBS- Wrote:
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> Mel Wrote:
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> > Two stabbings in Fox Mill in a month.
> >
> > See, this is what happens when we redistrict
> into
> > South Lakes!
> >
> Sad but true, unfortunately.

You're so fucking stupid, The first stabbing had nothing at all to do with south lakes, and this one has nothing to do with re-districted students so how is that at all related?

It's not rocket science. SL drug dealer (i.e. Colin) has access to a whole new batch of kids in Fox Mill, lots of potential business. Why else do you think he was in the FM area? But, that's a wee bit over your head.

A stabbing in Fairfax County wow? What else is new these days...

SBS-- Wrote:
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> It's not rocket science. SL drug dealer (i.e.
> Colin) has access to a whole new batch of kids in
> Fox Mill, lots of potential business. Why else do
> you think he was in the FM area? But, that's a
> wee bit over your head.


Its funny, You thought Fox mill wasnt already filled with drug dealers from oakton? haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Whoa, little campers. It was a joke. Enough with the school bashing.

Am curious about how the victim is doing, and if they caught the guy who stabbed him.

some people are ignorant Wrote:
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>
> Its funny, You thought Fox mill wasnt already
> filled with drug dealers from oakton?
> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

True enough, but when was the last time FM had a violent incident like this because of an Oakton drug dealer?

SBS-- Wrote:
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> some people are ignorant Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > Its funny, You thought Fox mill wasnt already
> > filled with drug dealers from oakton?
> > haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>
> True enough, but when was the last time FM had a
> violent incident like this because of an Oakton
> drug dealer?


Thats is true.... but there was the incedent with the chantily kids from about 2 or so weeks ago. The other stabbing

Yeah, I'm not happy about the violence. This has always been a good neighborhood and I want it to stay that way.

I don't know that Lee would qualify as a Chantilly kid since he was a dropout for three years, but it was more to do with him being a freakin' psychopath than being from Chantilly. I mean, seriously, what happened to teenage angst where you get sad, cry, write morbid poetry.... but stabbing your girlfriend? Come on, loser!

As for THIS fool, what happened to fist fights? I would be more than happy to shove my boot up his ass if he would like a lesson in good, old fashioned ass kicking. Doesn't matter now, though. He'll be on his way to becoming someone's bitch in jail. *snicker*

Listen I know just as many drug dealers from oakton as I do from south lakes. You have no idea how many kids in high school do drugs these day.At least 60 percent of oaktons students have used recreational drugs. You people are all to ready to shit on south lakes. do you know how many Oakton parents leave those same stores at fox mill shopping center absolutely hammered. did you know that those peoples kids walk out on checks all the time and fuck over the waiters who work there and then whip out of the parking lot in the 3 series their alcoholic parents let them drive around. Get off you'r high horse. collin is a little psychopath but drake is a good kid.You have no idea if drugs were even involved, and even if they were I can assure you most of the "concerned citizens" or regular posters on this forum have tried drugs and are in no position to criticize

I totally agree with you -- I did my fair share of recreation in high school. Of course, I was a South Lakes grad. (Hee hee, I'm just agitating!) :o)

come on Wrote:
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> Listen I know just as many drug dealers from
> oakton as I do from south lakes. You have no idea
> how many kids in high school do drugs these day.At
> least 60 percent of oaktons students have used
> recreational drugs. You people are all to ready to
> shit on south lakes. do you know how many Oakton
> parents leave those same stores at fox mill
> shopping center absolutely hammered. did you know
> that those peoples kids walk out on checks all the
> time and fuck over the waiters who work there and
> then whip out of the parking lot in the 3 series
> their alcoholic parents let them drive around. Get
> off you'r high horse. collin is a little
> psychopath but drake is a good kid.You have no
> idea if drugs were even involved, and even if they
> were I can assure you most of the "concerned
> citizens" or regular posters on this forum have
> tried drugs and are in no position to criticize

This was going on at the same time as the Japanese Festival at Fox Mill Ele. so the school was full of kids. I'm wondering why no one bothered to tell us at the school, especially with kids running all around the school grounds?

FM Resident Wrote:
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> This was going on at the same time as the Japanese
> Festival at Fox Mill Ele. so the school was full
> of kids. I'm wondering why no one bothered to
> tell us at the school, especially with kids
> running all around the school grounds?


I'm guessing since the kids probably aren't buying drugs so they're probably not going to get stabbed in a drug deal gone bad.

FM Resident Wrote:
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> > This was going on at the same time as the Japanese Festival at Fox Mill Ele. so the school was full of kids. I'm wondering why no one bothered to tell us at the school, especially with kids running all around the school grounds?< <

The attack occurred on Viking at approximately 7:15. The victim was found on John Milton. The assailant was identified to police by the victim. Both locations are some distance from FMES.

The only involvement of FMES is that the ambulance rendezvoused with the medivac helicopter at FMES. If the kids were running around on the school ground, those adults supervising the kids should have seen the helicopter land and the ambulance arrive.

Otherwise, what, if any, threat was posed to people at FMES by this event.

BTW, what was the percentage of 野蛮人 in attendance at the Festival?

I go to Oakton and I can tell you that Oakton has a huge drug problem. Most teachers ignore it because they don't want the word to get out. A month a go some kid blazed up in one of the classrooms. The entire hall smelled like pot and the kid didn't even get in trouble because the teacher didn't actually see the kid smoking it. You can get anything you want including herion.

My kids were on the playground cops came up made them all go inside before the helicopter landed so we did have a warning , most if it was shielded from the kids

There has always been a drug problem at the high schools. If they want to do something about it, then its time to crack down on all schools and their drug problems. Starting at the bottom working their way up to the main sources.

That explains the cops barricading the end of the John Milton Drive yesterday. I was driving on it and had to turn around and go back on Fox Mill Road as an alternative route. I certainly hope the stabbed victim will be alright.

Whatever the reason behind this act, our first thought is with the young man who was stabbed. I hope he is doing ok and recovers. Our second thought is for the young man who committed this act. He is troubled. Regardless of where our kids go to high school, it is all the same. There are drugs, and even some things worse, at ALL high schools. Something needs to be done to protect our children at all levels! I feel so helpless.

Did this happen within the Oakton HS school boundary?

My God, 34 posts about high school kids with drugs, and not a single reference to zero tolerance, brown shirted nazis, and how the fcps is responsible for this crime. This place is slipping.

Quit the namby pamby talk...this is a SLHS epidemic that infects the county. The county should offer a prisoner release program....that is, offer liberal school transfer policies so the innocent can pupil place out of the cesspool. Butler is running a prison, with normal kids sharing cells/classrooms with thugs.


Concerned Parent Wrote:
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> Whatever the reason behind this act, our first
> thought is with the young man who was stabbed. I
> hope he is doing ok and recovers. Our second
> thought is for the young man who committed this
> act. He is troubled. Regardless of where our
> kids go to high school, it is all the same. There
> are drugs, and even some things worse, at ALL high
> schools. Something needs to be done to protect
> our children at all levels! I feel so helpless.

some people are ignorant Wrote:
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> SBS- Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Mel Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Two stabbings in Fox Mill in a month.
> > >
> > > See, this is what happens when we redistrict
> > into
> > > South Lakes!
> > >
> > Sad but true, unfortunately.
>
> You're so fucking stupid, The first stabbing had
> nothing at all to do with south lakes, and this
> one has nothing to do with re-districted students
> so how is that at all related?


Geez, no need for the bad langauge. But the question still remains why were these boys a block from FMES? They don't live there. This is not their neighborhood. But FM is now a SL community. Is there an unpleasant connection here?

Thomas More Wrote:
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> FM Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > This was going on at the same time as the
> Japanese Festival at Fox Mill Ele. so the school
> was full of kids. I'm wondering why no one
> bothered to tell us at the school, especially with
> kids running all around the school grounds?< <
>
> The attack occurred on Viking at approximately
> 7:15. The victim was found on John Milton. The
> assailant was identified to police by the victim.
> Both locations are some distance from FMES.
>
> The only involvement of FMES is that the ambulance
> rendezvoused with the medivac helicopter at FMES.
> If the kids were running around on the school
> ground, those adults supervising the kids should
> have seen the helicopter land and the ambulance
> arrive.
>
> Otherwise, what, if any, threat was posed to
> people at FMES by this event.
>
> BTW, what was the percentage of
> 野蛮人 in attendance at the
> Festival?


It doens't sound like you know the location of the school to the location of the stabbing. Actually the stabbing was incredibly close to FMES--just one block and one house away. And, i think it is very scary and certainly a threat that a kid willing to use a knife on another person was incredibly close to kids walking to and from the Japanese festival that night as well as kids riding bikes and just hanginig out on a nice Friday night.

FM mom Wrote:
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> some people are ignorant Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SBS- Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Mel Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Two stabbings in Fox Mill in a month.
> > > >
> > > > See, this is what happens when we
> redistrict
> > > into
> > > > South Lakes!
> > > >
> > > Sad but true, unfortunately.
> >
> > You're so fucking stupid, The first stabbing
> had
> > nothing at all to do with south lakes, and this
> > one has nothing to do with re-districted
> students
> > so how is that at all related?
>
>
> Geez, no need for the bad langauge. But the
> question still remains why were these boys a block
> from FMES? They don't live there. This is not
> their neighborhood. But FM is now a SL community.
> Is there an unpleasant connection here?


Drake lives about a mile from FM, FM has always been a part of the SL community, Infact South lakes is closer to FM then oakton is to FM sooooo SL kids should be the ones complaining

I went to slhs a few years back, and I used drugs and knew every person that sold stuff there. Deals were made between the middle class kids, and with the lower income students. Many people are claiming that this is an SLHS problem, but that is entirely untrue. I never was involved with a drug deal gone bad, because I used my own discretion in choosing who to deal with. I know personally one of the friends of the kid who was stabbed. Apparently Colin and Drake knew each other, so the victim knew exactly who he was dealing with. Personal discretion is the only way to remain safe when dealing wit drugs.

Furthermore, anyone who knows anything about the drug scene in and around southlakes knows that the drugs all come from OTHER HIGHSCOOLS. The kids who had the best weed were the kids who had a hookup at madison, oakton, or herndon. I never knew a dealer at southlakes that was self-supplied. Meaning the kids with LOTS OF MONEY at the schools in the better off areas would purchase the larger amounts (quarter pounds, etc.) and sell to the SL dealers at a higher price.

Drugs are never going to stop being used, no matter what the laws. That is a fact of humanity. If our schools want to stop violence in relation to the drug scene, they should accept the fact that they cannot stop the trafficking. Simply teach the kids "if you do get involved with drugs, which statistically about half of you will, then use these rules when purchasing, know your source, etc. " It is time that we stop blinding our kids with the stupid data/scare tactics published by our federal government. Practical, realistic education is the only way to solve a problem, not propaganda.

I'm related to the victim, and i find it funny what everyones saying and they have no clue what happened. The victim lives in walking distance to FM and all the drug talk is irrelevant. It's funny these days how many false stories people can come up with instead of focusing on the REAL issue at hand, and that is that the kid who did this stabbing is TROUBLED. Only time will reveal the story to you all, and you will realize how off topic these convos went.

The victim is doing better, multiple(5) stab wounds and loss of blood. Hopefully he will have a full recovery.

If knives were outlawed, this never would have happened.

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yes an then we could all cut our bread and cheese and meat with lasers.

and THEN we could out law sharpened sticks and maybe rocks and chopsticks.

Just for general information. I have spoken to the Detective from Fairfax PD who is working this case. NO drugs involved, no drug deal,It was apparently an argument that The Metzger kid decided to try to kill Drake S.

Metzger is apparently strange and has been acting irrationally and it has culminated in this act. He's screwed as they intend to prosecute as an adult.

MrMephisto Wrote:
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> If knives were outlawed, this never would have
> happened.



the mockery is fantastic.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Drake was stabbed by his drug-dealer bosses after he failed to successfully rob
Collin. He is pinning the whole thing on Collin because he is afraid of his bosses.

Andy you obviously have no clue what you're talking about ^

andyf367 Wrote:
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> > Drake was stabbed by his drug-dealer bosses after he failed to successfully rob Collin. He is pinning the whole thing on Collin because he is afraid of his bosses.< <

Lying troll, back to your cave.

andyf367 Wrote:
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> Drake was stabbed by his drug-dealer bosses after
> he failed to successfully rob
> Collin. He is pinning the whole thing on Collin
> because he is afraid of his bosses.

And you are? Collins lawyer? You don't even know the situation as there was only TWO people involved so go back to your cave and get a life. How could he try and pin something on collin? That kid clearly stabbed the victim. You are a moron. You must be related to "collin" or just as psycho.

Teach them the best way to handle drug dealing? Are you kidding me?? YOU really need some help yourself. I sure hope that you aren't an adult. I hope that you are using your mamas computer taking time to offer up suggestions between your video games.

...there has been NO news coverage of any kind concerning this? Do I smell cover-up?

Tell me why... Wrote:
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> ...there has been NO news coverage of any kind
> concerning this? Do I smell cover-up?

because nobody gives a shit about drug deals gone awry.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Gravis Wrote:
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> Tell me why... Wrote:
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> -----
> > ...there has been NO news coverage of any kind
> > concerning this? Do I smell cover-up?
>
> because nobody gives a shit about drug deals gone
> awry.

This any since it's ongoing the FCPD will probably only release some incredibly vauge press release that says "Something suffered an injury in Fairfax County. The investigation continues."

Thomas More Wrote:
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> FM Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > This was going on at the same time as the
> Japanese Festival at Fox Mill Ele. so the school
> was full of kids. I'm wondering why no one
> bothered to tell us at the school, especially with
> kids running all around the school grounds?< <
>
> The attack occurred on Viking at approximately
> 7:15. The victim was found on John Milton. The
> assailant was identified to police by the victim.
> Both locations are some distance from FMES.
>
> The only involvement of FMES is that the ambulance
> rendezvoused with the medivac helicopter at FMES.
> If the kids were running around on the school
> ground, those adults supervising the kids should
> have seen the helicopter land and the ambulance
> arrive.
>
> Otherwise, what, if any, threat was posed to
> people at FMES by this event.
>
>

Could it possibly be that there was an attempted murderer, possibly armed, and probably agitated running loose in the neighborhood? I was at the school and saw the kid being loaded into the helicopter. Then I walked to my car with my kids like dozens of other people did. Some of them parked right where they found the boy in the street. Were they in danger? Maybe, who knows but I think the least the FCPS could have done was notify everyone that there was a potetential for danger and possibly even lock down the school until this guy was caught.

I let my 14 yr old daughter walk home with her friends and THEN learned fromn a bicycle cop what had happened. To say that I was scared at that point would be an understatement.
Had I been warned I would have kept her in the car with me.

Here is the official police report

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/news-releases/2009/051109malwounding.htm

No word yet re: drugs/gangs

Just another reason knives should be outlawed.

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I grew up in Fox Mill Estates, and I just have to say it's zero surprise that this is happening. It was inevitable long before the SL redistricting.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2009 01:13PM by RESton Peace.

Why was the victim medivaced if the injuries were non-life threatening?

Landing a chopper in a heavily populated area has risks so I can't see why they could not transport the victim by ambulance.

I agree that they should have notified the folks at the school-clearly there are communication problems in FC emergency response area.

Are you kidding me? I grew up in the area, too, and wouldn't have expected a stabbing in Fox Mill. If the events happened in Stonegate I wouldn't have been surprised, but I am a little biased since I remember how bad Stonegate was back in the day. Haven't heard much lately to be fair.


RESton Peace Wrote:
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> I grew up in Fox Mill Estates, and I just have to
> say it's zero surprise that this is happening. It
> was inevitable long before the SL redistricting.

Crime happens everywhere. You kids are furthuring a stereotype that you have no idea about.
There were parents who escorted children off the playground when the helicopter landed, and there is no reason to create widespread panic.
Irresponsible and angry teens are the problem not just drugs.

questions Wrote:
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> Why was the victim medivaced if the injuries were
> non-life threatening?
>
> Landing a chopper in a heavily populated area has
> risks so I can't see why they could not transport
> the victim by ambulance.
>
> I agree that they should have notified the folks
> at the school-clearly there are communication
> problems in FC emergency response area.

Fairfax County fire and rescue and FCPD seem to LOVE the helicopter. Fucking chopper pickups for basically anything.

I have a coworker who had some work done on his home; the contractor sawed his own thumb off by accident, and my friend and the contractor dude rushed over by private car to Inova Alexandria. What do they do? They call in a helicopter to transport him to Inova Fairfax. A stablized patient and a 8 mile drive.

Cost = $16,000. Nice, eh?

Is he related to the other kid in the area who stabbed the girl a few weeks earlier?

ITRADE Wrote:
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> questions Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why was the victim medivaced if the injuries
> were
> > non-life threatening?
> >
> > Landing a chopper in a heavily populated area
> has
> > risks so I can't see why they could not
> transport
> > the victim by ambulance.
> >
> > I agree that they should have notified the
> folks
> > at the school-clearly there are communication
> > problems in FC emergency response area.
>
> Fairfax County fire and rescue and FCPD seem to
> LOVE the helicopter. Fucking chopper pickups for
> basically anything.
>
> I have a coworker who had some work done on his
> home; the contractor sawed his own thumb off by
> accident, and my friend and the contractor dude
> rushed over by private car to Inova Alexandria.
> What do they do? They call in a helicopter to
> transport him to Inova Fairfax. A stablized
> patient and a 8 mile drive.
>
> Cost = $16,000. Nice, eh?


I guess they bill the insurance company the $16k which we all end up paying thru higher medical premiums.

A severed thumb? Give me a break.

That chopper should be used for life threatening injuries ONLY! Any other use constitutes abuse of taxpayer money in my opinion.

I think FC should issue an annual report on how many times this helicopter is used each year and the costs associated with it.

Pat Herrity is the only BOS member who seems to watch the money flying out the door-maybe he should look into this.

questions Wrote:
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> Why was the victim medivaced if the injuries were
> non-life threatening?
>
> Landing a chopper in a heavily populated area has
> risks so I can't see why they could not transport
> the victim by ambulance.
>
> I agree that they should have notified the folks
> at the school-clearly there are communication
> problems in FC emergency response area.

FYI, It was life threatening. The victim sustained lots of blood loss and went into shock at the scene. Multiple serious stab wounds through the body is pretty life threatening to me.

questions Wrote:
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> > Why was the victim medivaced if the injuries were non-life threatening?< <

> > Landing a chopper in a heavily populated area has risks so I can't see why they could not transport the victim by ambulance.< <

As reported in the a FCPD press release, the injuries were initially thought to be not life threatening.

However, the EMTs determined otherwise, they almost lost him twice: once in the ambulance and once in the medivac.

As to notice to folks at FMES, the assailant was known to the victim and had already fled he area in his car by the time FCPD arrived on scene.

?? Wrote:
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> > Is he related to the other kid in the area who stabbed the girl a few weeks earlier?< <

No

BOS should be looking into this Wrote:
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> That chopper should be used for life threatening injuries ONLY!

The victims injuries were life threatening. He almost died!

andyf367 Wrote:
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> Drake was stabbed by his drug-dealer bosses after
> he failed to successfully rob
> Collin. He is pinning the whole thing on Collin
> because he is afraid of his bosses.


Oh I think I heard about that evil fox mill drug boss

It was Obama!

If the assailant had already fled, why was there a large group of police on bicyles in the area?

You guys sit on here all day and ask the stupid fuck questions all the time?

why was a helicopter used,... why were there cops,... how much does a medevac cost? Jesus I would venture a guess that you belong to the stupidist bunch of idiots I have seen.


You are completely unuaware of the real world.

unbelievable Wrote:
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> You guys sit on here all day and ask the stupid
> fuck questions all the time?
>
> why was a helicopter used,... why were there
> cops,... how much does a medevac cost? Jesus I
> would venture a guess that you belong to the
> stupidist bunch of idiots I have seen.
>
>
> You are completely unuaware of the real world.

Says the man who just asked a stupid question.

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Is it the case that the suspect here will be tried as an adult? What is the consensus that is emerging?

unbelievable Wrote:
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> You guys sit on here all day and ask the stupid
> fuck questions all the time?
>
> why was a helicopter used,... why were there
> cops,... how much does a medevac cost? Jesus I
> would venture a guess that you belong to the
> stupidist bunch of idiots I have seen.
>
>
> You are completely unuaware of the real world.


1. The police report (incorrectly apparently) stated that the injuries were non-life threatening so it is perfectly reasonable to question the use of the chopper.

2. The other poster cited another incident where someone with non threatening injuries (a severed thumb) was also transported by chopper at a cost of $16k.

These little chopper rides are not free-we pay for it one way or another and we should not be using these flights for non critical cases. There have been a number of crashes involving these choppers and the County puts lives at risk by landing these things in populated areas.

Just recently I witnessed an incident in my neighborhood where the SWAT team was sent in to restrain an elderly man who had threatened to take his life. He had no weapon and weighed maybe 150 pounds soaking wet. He was frail and would have been uncapable of taking on a 10 year old girl in a fist fight, yet the SWAT guys were called in (probably 8-10 in total) and they tackled the guy nearly killing him.

I just think sometimes the emergency responders get a little carried away sometimes with excessive use of force. Watch a few episodes of The Andy Griffith Show for a perspective-sometimes Andy dealt with people a lot better than cops do today.

Congratulations you've been elected King of the morons.

believable Wrote:

Watch a few episodes of The Andy
> Griffith Show for a perspective-sometimes Andy
> dealt with people a lot better than cops do today.


If this was Mayberry, I'd be lookin for a lil bit of that Helen Crump action.

But it isn't.

______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.

Drake Sutter.. and just because they go to South Lakes has nothing to do with them personally. Drakes a good guy, and the opinions stated here are certainly not facts, maybe it was drugs, but i highly doubt it was anything more serious then weed. and the actions that Collin made have nothing to do with Drake and or South Lakes High School they are are all on the person who actually committed the stabbing.. Get your facts straight first then share your opinions.

fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> believable Wrote:
>
> Watch a few episodes of The Andy
> > Griffith Show for a perspective-sometimes Andy
> > dealt with people a lot better than cops do
> today.
>
>
> If this was Mayberry, I'd be lookin for a lil bit
> of that Helen Crump action.
>
> But it isn't.


Now THAT's hilarious. Emergency Response personnel have some of the most difficult and dangerous jobs in the world. A little slack is warranted.

Is the suspect the kind of kid that ought to be walking around free? Certainly some must know him. Is this an aberration or has he been heading for trouble for some time?

FM Parent Wrote:
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> > If the assailant had already fled, why was there a large group of police on bicyles in the area?< <

Damn good question. They had nothing else to do? Can't tell you how many times 3-4+ cruisers show up for simple traffic stops. A high percentage of the patrol officers are very new to the job. Maybe this was their first stabbing.

You're so blind. There is a crime scene, there is a search for additional suspects, witnesses and all the things that go into an investigation. YOu sit in your little house and know nothing about what police do then comment about how they do it wrong. I thought people from the south were stupid but you people take the cake. Did a lot of your dads marry their sisters? it shows.

The public is stupid Wrote:
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> > You're so blind. There is a crime scene, there is a search for additional suspects, witnesses and all the things that go into an investigation. YOu sit in your little house and know nothing about what police do then comment about how they do it wrong. I thought people from the south were stupid but you people take the cake. Did a lot of your dads marry their sisters? it shows.< <

Thank you, Officer Krupke. The victim had already told the police that there was only one assailant, so no need to search for additional suspects.

Citizens are always encouraged when police officers who are supposed to defend them refer to them as stupid.

Did they ever catch the assailant?
The police were stopping all teenage boys along the street and talking to people at the shopping center, so they must have thought he was on foot, for at least the initial search. They also had the helicopter searching for him. It did a flyover with spot for about 30 minutes.

The public is stupid Wrote:
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>YOu sit in your little house and know nothing about
> what police do then comment about how they do it
> wrong.

I can't pass this one up....

Do you mean the Montgomery County who was recently caught making false testimony about the suspect who she alleged had committed DUI. Funny thing was the cameras in the shopping center show the suspect was lying in the back seat of a car the whole time! woops, I guess she was confused.

Or how about the cop at The IHOP who shot to kill the 17 year old high school kid who skipped out on his check? yep, now that is great police work, thank goodness that kid is off the streets.

I sleep better at night knowing we are protected by the finest. For every decent cop there is a crooked one.

Police Family Violence Fact Sheet
Two studies have found that at least 40% of police officer families experience domestic violence, (1, 2) in contrast to 10% of families in the general population.(3) A third study of older and more experienced officers found a rate of 24% (4), indicating that domestic violence is 2-4 times more common among police families than American families in general. A police department that has domestic violence offenders among its ranks will not effectively serve and protect victims in the community.5, 6, 7, 8 Moreover, when officers know of domestic violence committed by their colleagues and seek to protect them by covering it up, they expose the department to civil liability.7


Is this what cops do????

Look I know Drake personally, I see him everyday. He is not a bad kid and he didn't deserve this. You guys are all assuming a number of things that AREAN'T true. The people on this forum who say that nearly 60% of students in high school use drugs are wrong... its probably more like 80% - 90% who have tried them. Take it from a student like me who has never smoked or tried drugs - it's not hard to find them in today's society. I agree, as a student, that scare tactics arean't going to work with kids, because we have a tendancy to think we're invicible. But what you guys are assuming in regards to Drake and this entire situation is extremely hurtful to the people who know him and are friends with him. He isn't a bad kid at all and didn't deserve this in the least. I know the kid he called on the cell phone that night, and I know how hard this is for everyone who is dealing with this situation at South Lakes and who go and visit him in the hospital everyday. So please, before you continue to make up more things just think about who might be reading these forums, and whose feelings you might hurt.

And in regards to the theory that the redistricting caused this accident; ridiculous. Drake lives in Fox Mill, and I know for a fact that there are kids in Fox Mill who use drugs. Don't think children are innocent because they live in a certain neighborhood. That's just naiive. There are kids like me who don't use drugs at every school, from South Lakes, to Oakton, to Langley. But there are also drugees at all these schools as well. Drugs will always be a part of high school whether you accept that or not. Kids have always used them and most likely always will - and as long as we live in a society like we do today drugs will always be available to kids. It's up to the kid to decide if they want to use them or not.

If you remeber one thing, drugs know no boundaries. And money or scenery doesn't change anything - if they want to do it they probably will.

Nervous in FM Wrote:
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> SLHS best and brightest Wrote:
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> > According to the pals, Colin Metzger stabbed
> Drake
> > Souther...drug deal gone bad. But what were
> they
> > doing in Fox Mill...far from their turf. Colin
> is
> > on the run...
>
>
> Other way around. Collin was the victim.

You are a liar...Drake does not live in Fox Mill. Thus, all of your drivel is a lie...probably written by an adult who just wants to stir the pot.

Beast man Wrote:
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> Nervous in FM Wrote:
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> > SLHS best and brightest Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > According to the pals, Colin Metzger stabbed
> > Drake
> > > Souther...drug deal gone bad. But what were
> > they
> > > doing in Fox Mill...far from their turf.
> Colin
> > is
> > > on the run...
> >
> >
> > Other way around. Collin was the victim.

how the fuck would you know there are a lot of people on these forums who would just rather throw around opinions about high schools, drugs, and kids. You dont know the victim personally and yet you discredit people who do because you feel like talking down to people or running a rumor mill. Second of all if one of your children was injured you wouldn't want every cop on the force no matter how crooked. they canvas the area for both suspects and whiteness' and anyone who thinks otherwise is on drugs themselves. You have no reason to believe that drugs were involved and yet you all continue to shit on poor drake because you assume any stabbing must be drug related, at the same time no one is jumping to the conclusion that maybe this Collin kid is a fucking psycho. why would you automatically assume the victim is up to no good? and the fact that some of you have said well he was doing something shady(you assume) so he deserves to get stabbed is sickening. heaven forbid maybe one day you have a child and maybe the decide to try drugs for the first time and they are stabbed, or they get in an argument doing nothing wrong and they are stabbed. and everyone on this forum is just shitting all over them. I do appreciate people providing valid information, and to those of you with nothing better to, go fuck yourselves.

Drake is a pot head...pure and simple...it was a pot deal gone bad...it will all be revealed at the trial as Collin tries to squirm out of it.

Agree...just b/c Drake was welching on his drug debts/distribution duties, he does not deserve to be stabbed...but he should know this is possible when you engage in the narcotics trade.

true Wrote:
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> Drake is a pot head...pure and simple...it was a
> pot deal gone bad...it will all be revealed at the
> trial as Collin tries to squirm out of it.
>
> Agree...just b/c Drake was welching on his drug
> debts/distribution duties, he does not deserve to
> be stabbed...but he should know this is possible
> when you engage in the narcotics trade.

Lmao. You don't even know what happened, so go play your little video games and find something more productive to do then stir the pot. These days around reston, you can do nothing more than walk down the street and something traumatic can happen so shut the hell up!

If you are so smart, why not tell us why Collin stabbed Drake. Why were they in the car together, and why were they in a neighborhood that is not their own?


go to school! Wrote:
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> true Wrote:
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> > Drake is a pot head...pure and simple...it was
> a
> > pot deal gone bad...it will all be revealed at
> the
> > trial as Collin tries to squirm out of it.
> >
> > Agree...just b/c Drake was welching on his drug
> > debts/distribution duties, he does not deserve
> to
> > be stabbed...but he should know this is
> possible
> > when you engage in the narcotics trade.
>
> Lmao. You don't even know what happened, so go
> play your little video games and find something
> more productive to do then stir the pot. These
> days around reston, you can do nothing more than
> walk down the street and something traumatic can
> happen so shut the hell up!

Here's some better questions: where were Collin's parents when this happened? Why are they defending his actions? How is it possible that Collin's parents are so bad that they raised a mentally derranged child?

You should start worrying more about the person who attempted to kill another person than wasting your time trying to ruin the character of the victim who almost died at the hands of a psychopath.

I hear this had nothing to do with drugs....Collin and Drake were in a homo relationship, and Drake wouldn't put out in the car, so Collin flipped. It explains why they were not in their own neighborhood....did not want to get caught nob bobbing.



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> Here's some better questions: where were Collin's
> parents when this happened? Why are they defending
> his actions? How is it possible that Collin's
> parents are so bad that they raised a mentally
> derranged child?
>
> You should start worrying more about the person
> who attempted to kill another person than wasting
> your time trying to ruin the character of the
> victim who almost died at the hands of a
> psychopath.

You're a fucking pussy hiding behind the internet. I bet you think you're really cool and funny huh? We all know youd never say that to anyones face who actually cares about drake because you are bitch and youd get your ass beat.

Don't get your panties in a bunch...the person who wrote that was just jealous b/c of Drake and Collin's 'special' relationship.

http://www.observernews.com/editions/weeklyeditions/herndon_reston_051509.pdf

Wow Wrote:
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> You're a fucking pussy hiding behind the internet.

yeah, fuck the internet!


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