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Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: your kids you pay ()
Date: May 03, 2015 06:57AM

Those of us with no kids have no interest in funding your decisions.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Dad of 3 ()
Date: May 03, 2015 07:08AM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.


So sorry! It does not work that way. You decide to not have kids so you have decided not to make future taxpayers so you must pay more in taxes to make up for your lack of civic duty.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 7dvVJ ()
Date: May 03, 2015 07:41AM

Dad of 3 Wrote:
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> your kids you pay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> > funding your decisions.
>
>
> So sorry! It does not work that way. You decide to
> not have kids so you have decided not to make
> future taxpayers so you must pay more in taxes to
> make up for your lack of civic duty.


LOL

Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us funding your decisions.

Never read about having kids being anyone's "civic duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and offer discounts + donations to charitable organizations. You fucked some whore who spit out 3 people who are a huge drain on society.

Every public entity should be funded by those who use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools should be paid for those who use their services.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: homeschooled ()
Date: May 03, 2015 08:21AM

^^^Yes! My kids are homeschooled and we still must pay for the joke of what public school is. Public education is all part of the liberal agenda to destroy America.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Dad of 3 ()
Date: May 03, 2015 08:30AM

7dvVJ Wrote:
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> Dad of 3 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > your kids you pay Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> > > funding your decisions.
> >
> >
> > So sorry! It does not work that way. You decide
> to
> > not have kids so you have decided not to make
> > future taxpayers so you must pay more in taxes
> to
> > make up for your lack of civic duty.
>
>
> LOL
>
> Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us funding
> your decisions.
>
> Never read about having kids being anyone's "civic
> duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> offer discounts + donations to charitable
> organizations. You fucked some whore who spit out
> 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
>
> Every public entity should be funded by those who
> use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> should be paid for those who use their services.


You reap the benefits of living in an educated society yet you neglect your duty to create and raise educated, productive, law abiding, taxpaying decent citizens. This is exactly why you should and do pay more in taxes than I do.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Ying Ko ()
Date: May 03, 2015 08:32AM

I think people should have as many children as they can afford. Why should I pay for breakfast and lunch meals? My money should be used for highway maintenance, not band equipment or football helmets.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 4c9L4 ()
Date: May 03, 2015 09:01AM

7dvVJ Wrote:
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> Dad of 3 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > your kids you pay Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> > > funding your decisions.
> >
> >
> > So sorry! It does not work that way. You decide
> to
> > not have kids so you have decided not to make
> > future taxpayers so you must pay more in taxes
> to
> > make up for your lack of civic duty.
>
>
> LOL
>
> Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us funding
> your decisions.
>
> Never read about having kids being anyone's "civic
> duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> offer discounts + donations to charitable
> organizations. You fucked some whore who spit out
> 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
>
> Every public entity should be funded by those who
> use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> should be paid for those who use their services.

But, in all my 63 years I've never called the police department, fire department or an ambulance. Should I expect a refund of some sort?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: no more FCPS fraud! ()
Date: May 03, 2015 09:58AM

People will only put up with so much. School spending is so out of control, people want to close it down. It seems the schools are just there to support bloated sports programs, hiring of all sorts of unqualified consultants, and sending school employees on paid vacations.

This "Atwater Attitude" of "well the matter is closed" is just wrong. If they want tax money, they have to explain where it goes. Karen Garza thinks she is better than the rest of us, so she gets to have steak dinners and stay in fancy hotel rooms.

This is the year of the perfect storm. All supervisors and school board members are up for re-election. All of them are nervous. Also getting nervous are these consultants and conference organizers. Things could turn out very different in 2016.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 03, 2015 12:29PM

Move to another state then. Actually I believe all states have publicly funded primary and secondary education, but some horribly underfund it.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: goodone ()
Date: May 03, 2015 01:18PM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.


who paid for you school ? Do you want to pay for their prison terms instead. How stupid are you. If you applied that theory to evreything. it would be bedlam. I never got arrested so I do not want to pay for prisons, I have never been on your street so I do not want to pay for your road opr for the fire hydrant nearest to your house.

you are an idiot

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: hschoolerssssssss ()
Date: May 03, 2015 01:20PM

oh god just what need more homeschooled brainwashed kids.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Parent Who Switched ()
Date: May 03, 2015 01:22PM

After watching "The Woodson Pyramid" screw my older two, I am sending my younger two to private school. What a difference! I am fine with paying taxes to fund FCPS. Just give me a tax break on private tuition.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: dry cleaners ()
Date: May 03, 2015 01:57PM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.


How do you feel about taxpayer funded abortions? That is a great return on investment for the taxpayers as are schools.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Really PO'd ()
Date: May 03, 2015 03:03PM

I'm paying $25K+ each year for private elementary school for my child yet still pay not only for the education of your shat-out turds, but schools now are tasked to provide free breakfast and lunch? When the fuck did schools become restaurants? You bred them, you fucking feed and teach them. I'll pay for the firing squad bullets when they fuck up.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Here's A Thought ()
Date: May 03, 2015 03:06PM

dry cleaners Wrote:
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> your kids you pay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> > funding your decisions.
>
>
> How do you feel about taxpayer funded abortions?
> That is a great return on investment for the
> taxpayers as are schools.

How about the idea of whores keeping their legs closed? I support mandatory sterilization before the first public assist dollar is handed out. Same for any teenage girl who gets knocked up.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Huh??? ()
Date: May 03, 2015 05:20PM

4c9L4 Wrote:
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> 7dvVJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dad of 3 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > your kids you pay Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Those of us with no kids have no interest
> in
> > > > funding your decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > So sorry! It does not work that way. You
> decide
> > to
> > > not have kids so you have decided not to make
> > > future taxpayers so you must pay more in
> taxes
> > to
> > > make up for your lack of civic duty.
> >
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us
> funding
> > your decisions.
> >
> > Never read about having kids being anyone's
> "civic
> > duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> > offer discounts + donations to charitable
> > organizations. You fucked some whore who spit
> out
> > 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
> >
> > Every public entity should be funded by those
> who
> > use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> > everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> > should be paid for those who use their
> services.
>
> But, in all my 63 years I've never called the
> police department, fire department or an
> ambulance. Should I expect a refund of some sort?

You're not required, nor forced to live here. You are choosing to live here. Either you accept your situation as imperfect like the rest of us OR...move. Either way, ZERO fucks given for what you think you're entitled to.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: T33vU ()
Date: May 03, 2015 09:14PM

Dad of 3 Wrote:
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> 7dvVJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Dad of 3 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > your kids you pay Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Those of us with no kids have no interest
> in
> > > > funding your decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > So sorry! It does not work that way. You
> decide
> > to
> > > not have kids so you have decided not to make
> > > future taxpayers so you must pay more in
> taxes
> > to
> > > make up for your lack of civic duty.
> >
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us
> funding
> > your decisions.
> >
> > Never read about having kids being anyone's
> "civic
> > duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> > offer discounts + donations to charitable
> > organizations. You fucked some whore who spit
> out
> > 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
> >
> > Every public entity should be funded by those
> who
> > use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> > everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> > should be paid for those who use their
> services.
>
>
> You reap the benefits of living in an educated
> society yet you neglect your duty to create and
> raise educated, productive, law abiding, taxpaying
> decent citizens. This is exactly why you should
> and do pay more in taxes than I do.


You keep referring to OTHERS "duty" to educate YOUR kids - sorry, that is bullshit. It is the duty of the people who produce offspring to raise them, whether they are educated, or not, is not my problem.

By your logic, if YOUR kids do not become "productive, law abiding, taxpaying decent citizens" you would pay us all back...you know, it would be your duty.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: John Dewey ()
Date: May 03, 2015 10:11PM

7dvVJ Wrote:

>
> Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us funding
> your decisions.
>
> Never read about having kids being anyone's "civic
> duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> offer discounts + donations to charitable
> organizations. You fucked some whore who spit out
> 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
>
> Every public entity should be funded by those who
> use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> should be paid for those who use their services.

Really? And just where did your 17 employees learn to read, write, and do simple sums? Would you even have much of a business if the vast majority of citizens were illiterate and unemployable?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: No Kids in Clifton ()
Date: May 03, 2015 11:40PM

If you have kids you pay a kids tax. These little fucker screw up everything and wreck yards. We banned kids years ago in Clifton!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 04, 2015 12:34AM

The OP is clearly trolling, but there actually are people who believe this shit. Never mind that no government could actually run that way. Pick any government activity and I can probably find a group that either objects to its existence, or feels they should not be required to help fund it. You don't get to pick and choose what activities governments engage in and whether you have to pay for them. What you get is the right to participate in the COLLECTIVE decision making process that determines which activities governments engage in and how they are paid for.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: GOP Forever! ()
Date: May 04, 2015 01:03AM

Republicans have been trying to do away with public schooling for years. I believe what the GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you should have to pay for it.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 4cd4k ()
Date: May 04, 2015 01:09AM

John Dewey Wrote:
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> 7dvVJ Wrote:
>
> >
> > Nice circular logic. Great excuse for us
> funding
> > your decisions.
> >
> > Never read about having kids being anyone's
> "civic
> > duty". I own a business, employ 17 people and
> > offer discounts + donations to charitable
> > organizations. You fucked some whore who spit
> out
> > 3 people who are a huge drain on society.
> >
> > Every public entity should be funded by those
> who
> > use them - FD, PD, VDOT and so on are used by
> > everyone and funded accordingly. Public schools
> > should be paid for those who use their
> services.
>
> Really? And just where did your 17 employees
> learn to read, write, and do simple sums? Would
> you even have much of a business if the vast
> majority of citizens were illiterate and
> unemployable?


Such stupidity - the parents pay for their educations. They will be educated and just fine, but since only the parents will be paying, ALL the unneeded bullshit would be stripped from schools and they would focus on education and discipline only.

Your kids - you pay.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: It's True ()
Date: May 04, 2015 04:18AM

homeschooled Wrote:
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> ^^^Yes! My kids are homeschooled and we still must
> pay for the joke of what public school is. Public
> education is all part of the liberal agenda to
> destroy America.


I feel sorry for your kids. You're obviously not fit to teach them anything.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Curmudgeon ()
Date: May 04, 2015 06:56AM

Nobody is this stupid. I award OP 5 points for excellent trolling.



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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Areyouthat dumb ()
Date: May 04, 2015 08:27AM

GOP Forever! Wrote:
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> Republicans have been trying to do away with
> public schooling for years. I believe what the
> GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you
> should have to pay for it.

No, this is a libertarian stance, NOT GOP. The GOP just want the Feds out of the education business, leave it to the states - the Feds just FU education like they do everything else.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: This thread ()
Date: May 04, 2015 08:46AM

Is full of 500lb republicans arguing with each other. What a bunch of fags, good luck in 2016 dumbasses.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Good Schools = More Wealth ()
Date: May 04, 2015 08:55AM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.

Let's defund the schools and see how good that is for your property value.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: GOP Ideas ()
Date: May 04, 2015 09:05AM

Areyouthat dumb Wrote:
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> GOP Forever! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Republicans have been trying to do away with
> > public schooling for years. I believe what the
> > GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you
> > should have to pay for it.
>
> No, this is a libertarian stance, NOT GOP. The GOP
> just want the Feds out of the education business,
> leave it to the states - the Feds just FU
> education like they do everything else.

You're crazy. Republicans have been trying to shutdown public schools for years. The GOP strongly argues for school "voucher" programs.

Republicans are positioning “school choice” — sending public dollars to charter schools, vouchers, virtual schools and other alternatives to traditional public schools — as a way to address income inequality in this election year and connect with low-income, minority voters.

Sens. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), a former education secretary, and Tim Scott (S.C.), one of only two African Americans in the Senate, will propose far-reaching “choice” legislation on Tuesday that would take the $24 billion in federal money spent annually to help educate 11 million students in poverty or with disabilities and convert it into block grants to the states, among other changes.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Areyouthat dumb ()
Date: May 04, 2015 09:30AM

Wow, you have been brain washed by the liberal position on school choice. The GOP wants parents to be able to CHOOSE (what a novel concept) which school their kids go to (public or private). There is noting in these proposals that is aimed at shutting down public schools.

Of course since the private schools are so much better than public schools that could be the effect of the long term as more and more parents CHOOSE to send their kids to private schools.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 04, 2015 11:46AM

GOP Forever! Wrote:
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> Republicans have been trying to do away with
> public schooling for years. I believe what the
> GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you
> should have to pay for it.

You do realize that a system very similar to that was tried in this country in the early 19th century, and it failed miserably. Those who had the resources and valued education provided top quality education for their kids. Those who had minimal resources but still valued education scraped together what they had and provided their kids with a poor education. The vast majority of people who didn't have the resources to spare, or who wanted to use their resources elsewhere, simply chose not to educate their children. It was because this system failed so miserably that states started turning to providing "universal" education for children, paid for out of public funds.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Date: May 04, 2015 11:52AM

OP apparently wants to live in a society run by uneducated, incompetent people whose educations were abysmal because of lack of funding.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Public goods ()
Date: May 04, 2015 11:58AM

GOP Forever! Wrote:
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> I believe what the
> GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you
> should have to pay for it.

Why should my tax money go toward road repairs in YOUR neighborhood? I don't drive on those streets, those potholes should be your responsibility, not mine. And why do we need streetlights on your street? I shouldn't have to pay for that, or part of the electric bill to keep those lights on. Go buy your own lights instead of coming to the rest of us with your hand out.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Tea Party Politics ()
Date: May 04, 2015 12:02PM

FormerlyRangerRikki Wrote:
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> OP apparently wants to live in a society run by
> uneducated, incompetent people whose educations
> were abysmal because of lack of funding.


That's how teabaggers and religious nuts like Hucktard and Sarah Palin do well politically.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: can you blame them? ()
Date: May 04, 2015 12:05PM

Can you blame people for being upset? Trips to Orlando, fancy meals, overpaid consultants, do nothing Gatehouse bureaucrats, non responsive personnel, and the list goes on.

Now, the pendulum will swing the other way.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 04, 2015 12:07PM

Areyouthat dumb Wrote:
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> The GOP wants parents
> to be able to CHOOSE (what a novel concept) which
> school their kids go to (public or private).
> There is noting in these proposals that is aimed
> at shutting down public schools.

That is misleading. Parents are, to a large extent, ABLE TO CHOOSE what school their kids go to under the current system today. What most school choice advocates are arguing for is the right to force the public to pay for the kids to go to private schools.

I'm not going to argue that many private schools today are better than public schools. The reason they are better is that they are ABLE TO EXCLUDE students who are less than fully prepared, or who require a greater level of resources. Force private schools to take every ESOL kid, every special needs kid and every kid with reduced means or inadequate educational background who lives in the area, and then force those schools to keep kids that become disruptive, and you will see the performance gap narrow very quickly.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Date: May 04, 2015 12:07PM

Tea Party Politics Wrote:
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> FormerlyRangerRikki Wrote:
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> -----
> > OP apparently wants to live in a society run by
> > uneducated, incompetent people whose educations
> > were abysmal because of lack of funding.
>
>
> That's how teabaggers and religious nuts like
> Hucktard and Sarah Palin do well politically.


Gee, I thought it was liberals who promoted the public good and large government budgets. My bad.



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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: your kids you pay2 ()
Date: May 04, 2015 01:52PM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.


Maybe then it can look like Baltimore! Good schools attract a good tax base!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: LiberalLogic ()
Date: May 04, 2015 02:49PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Areyouthat dumb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The GOP wants parents
> > to be able to CHOOSE (what a novel concept)
> which
> > school their kids go to (public or private).
> > There is noting in these proposals that is
> aimed
> > at shutting down public schools.
>
> That is misleading. Parents are, to a large
> extent, ABLE TO CHOOSE what school their kids go
> to under the current system today. What most
> school choice advocates are arguing for is the
> right to force the public to pay for the kids to
> go to private schools.
>
> I'm not going to argue that many private schools
> today are better than public schools. The reason
> they are better is that they are ABLE TO EXCLUDE
> students who are less than fully prepared, or who
> require a greater level of resources. Force
> private schools to take every ESOL kid, every
> special needs kid and every kid with reduced means
> or inadequate educational background who lives in
> the area, and then force those schools to keep
> kids that become disruptive, and you will see the
> performance gap narrow very quickly.


Unbelievable - liberal logic never fails to amaze me. I can choose to send my kids to any school I want as long as I am willing to pay for the public school they won't attend AND the private school I want them to go to. As far as private schools being better because of the kids they draw - that's kind of chicken/egg. They are run better (as is anything private vs. gov't) so parents that care about their kids (and have extra income) are willing to pay twice for the better education.

School choice would open up private education to the less well-off parents that also care about their kids. Of course this is directly against the liberal position of keeping the poor down trodden while giving the impression that all the democratic gov't handouts is in their best interest.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: May 04, 2015 04:21PM

Cut the crap LL. When you are talking about "school choice", you aren't talking about alternative schools that are open to "all comers", and are required to offer the same programs that public schools are required to offer. You are talking about alternative schools that are allowed to exclude groups of students that consume disproportionate resources or let in undesirable elements. If the public schools were allowed to do the same thing, you'd see far fewer underperforming schools. There is an argument that we should be looking into that, but that is another debate.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: a key difference ()
Date: May 04, 2015 04:30PM

Few of the "complainers" here are upset about legitimate educational expenses. It is the excesses that bother them: conferences in Orlando, bringing the Disney World team in as consultants, the palatial office space at Gatehouse, to say nothing of steak and lobster dinners.

If you add to this the "case closed" attitude of Karen Garza, Ted Velkoff's desire for taxation authority, and Ryan McElveen's shameless self-promotion, just about anyone can see why things have gotten ugly.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: fourlegs ()
Date: May 04, 2015 04:49PM

OP you are a excellent troll.

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Date: May 04, 2015 05:08PM

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 77pdG ()
Date: May 04, 2015 06:18PM

Public goods Wrote:
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> GOP Forever! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I believe what the
> > GOP is preaching. If you use a resource you
> > should have to pay for it.
>
> Why should my tax money go toward road repairs in
> YOUR neighborhood? I don't drive on those
> streets, those potholes should be your
> responsibility, not mine. And why do we need
> streetlights on your street? I shouldn't have to
> pay for that, or part of the electric bill to keep
> those lights on. Go buy your own lights instead
> of coming to the rest of us with your hand out.


I already put your failed logic in its place once. We all use street, EMT and the such....the huge amount of tax dollars spent on education is just comical. Strip public schools down to the bare essentials and focus on education and discipline. This will reduce the costs dramatically and allow ONLY parents who use these services to pay for them.

Fuck all you "property value" and "tax base" idiots, that is just fantasy shit you think would happen - when in actuality the opposite would.

All this "What are the children of the future going to have blah blah..." is utter bullshit. I pay taxes for MY future NOW, not your bratty little entitled lazy pussified kids.

You pay for each child for the 13 or 14 years they are in school.

Makes perfect sense and stop trying to use very generalized things like roads as examples - they are used by the majority of people for most of their lives...it just makes you look ignorant.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: kFMHn ()
Date: May 04, 2015 06:21PM

fourlegs Wrote:
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> OP you are a excellent troll.


Thank you. It has been quite entertaining and I will continue as long as I am fed.


I enjoy their ignorant shit like "My house has never been on fire, why should I pay for the FD?" "I do not drive on your street..."

So amusing.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: May 04, 2015 08:02PM

77pdG Wrote:
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> Makes perfect sense and stop trying to use very
> generalized things like roads as examples - they
> are used by the majority of people for most of
> their lives...it just makes you look ignorant.


What kind of argument is this? You don't make any logical sense here. A true libertarian would argue that ALL roads should be TOLL roads or at least pay per useage. Why should someone who works from home and only takes public transportation have to pay for your roads?

Curious what type of school you went to?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: keepin it real ()
Date: May 04, 2015 10:26PM

your kids you pay2 Wrote:
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> your kids you pay Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> > funding your decisions.
>
>
> Maybe then it can look like Baltimore! Good
> schools attract a good tax base!


Whether you're a democrat or republican, both have increased the size of government.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Values ()
Date: May 05, 2015 10:49AM

One of the core values in this country is that every child is guaranteed a K-12 education, regardless of economic situation. Whether a child has the opportunity to go to school has nothing to do with the parents. It's how the cycle of poverty is conceivably broken, albeit the systems isn't perfect.

That by definition requires government run, or at the least, government regulated schools, paid for by the general populace.

In the words of Mike Huckabee, a conservative:

"I'm standing here tonight because I got an education. If I hadn't had the education, I wouldn't be standing on this stage. I might be picking lettuce. In all due respect, we're a better country than to punish children for what their parents did."

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: StatesRights ()
Date: May 05, 2015 12:00PM

OK libs show me the word education in the Constitution. I agree that gov't funded K-12 education is a good thing for our society - but I want the execution of that left up to the states - the feds FU everything - since education is so important, that's the last thing we want them involved in.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Njmux ()
Date: May 05, 2015 12:53PM

Values Wrote:
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> One of the core values in this country is that
> every child is guaranteed a K-12 education,
> regardless of economic situation. Whether a child
> has the opportunity to go to school has nothing to
> do with the parents. It's how the cycle of poverty
> is conceivably broken, albeit the systems isn't
> perfect.
>
> That by definition requires government run, or at
> the least, government regulated schools, paid for
> by the general populace.
>
> In the words of Mike Huckabee, a conservative:
>
> "I'm standing here tonight because I got an
> education. If I hadn't had the education, I
> wouldn't be standing on this stage. I might be
> picking lettuce. In all due respect, we're a
> better country than to punish children for what
> their parents did."


No one is disagreeing with anything in your post. So, you obviously did not understand the OP - if you decide to have a child then realize that you have to pay for the education of that child.

No one is stopping anyone from getting an education, but we do not want to pay for it - for THEIR future. We would like to pay for things NOW, because believe it or not, WE are more important than your kids. YOU think your kids are so precious and take precedent over everyone else, but you would be wrong. The problem is so many couples have kids they form an army of smug bullshit and demand that everyone pays for their decisions.

If you get a pony, you need to pay for all costs surrounding your pony, not anyone else - same thing applies to kids. If 100,000 people get ponies, it does not somehow magically become non-pony owners responsibility to fund your decisions to get ponies. "Think of the Ponies future!" - sound stupid? Yes, because that is what it sounds like to us when we have "Think of the children's future" thrown in our faces every fucking 5 minutes. How about "Think of the PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT NOW"

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Values ()
Date: May 05, 2015 01:08PM

@Njmux - I understand the OP's sentiment. The point though is that isn't inline with the values that the majority of the population hold in this country, which is that children are GUARANTEED K-12 education, regardless of a parent's ability to provide.

Does it tick me off that some parents are taking advantage of free schooling while they aren't paying into the system. You Bet. Does that mean I want to #uck over another generation of innocent kids because of their parent's shortcomings. Not at all.

And for those who long for this to be in the realm of states rights, we are already there. The states have long held control of the K-12 education system in their respective states. The bottom line is the vast majority of people in each state want a public education system. Take a trip to Texas. They have a very very impressive public sector, including Education.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Hgf ()
Date: May 05, 2015 01:14PM

Values Wrote:
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> @Njmux - I understand the OP's sentiment. The
> point though is that isn't inline with the values
> that the majority of the population hold in this
> country, which is that children are GUARANTEED
> K-12 education, regardless of a parent's ability
> to provide.
>
> Does it tick me off that some parents are taking
> advantage of free schooling while they aren't
> paying into the system. You Bet. Does that mean I
> want to #uck over another generation of innocent
> kids because of their parent's shortcomings. Not
> at all.
>
> And for those who long for this to be in the realm
> of states rights, we are already there. The states
> have long held control of the K-12 education
> system in their respective states. The bottom line
> is the vast majority of people in each state want
> a public education system. Take a trip to Texas.
> They have a very very impressive public sector,
> including Education.

We brought somebody up from Texas to fix this mess and now you are telling us to go down there?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: keepin it real ()
Date: May 05, 2015 02:24PM

Njmux Wrote:
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> Values Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

> If you get a pony, you need to pay for all costs
> surrounding your pony, not anyone else - same
> thing applies to kids.


Good schools benefit EVERYONE, by attracting families! This creates a good tax base, increases property values, bolsters local economies and reduces crime.

Poor schools does the opposite.

If you don't want to pay for good schools, move.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: realitycheck ()
Date: May 05, 2015 02:51PM

keepin it real Wrote:
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> If you don't want to pay for good schools, move.

The reality is that there are very very few people who wish to live in a modern society without a universal compulsory education system. The OP will not find enough adherents to locate a place to move to.

Now the debate about what defines a good school and how much money it takes to fund one is another matter entirely.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 9w66v ()
Date: May 05, 2015 05:54PM

keepin it real Wrote:
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> Njmux Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Values Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> > If you get a pony, you need to pay for all
> costs
> > surrounding your pony, not anyone else - same
> > thing applies to kids.
>
>
> Good schools benefit EVERYONE, by attracting
> families! This creates a good tax base, increases
> property values, bolsters local economies and
> reduces crime.
>
> Poor schools does the opposite.
>
> If you don't want to pay for good schools, move.


Bullshit!

If there were a county that only adults could live in and if you get pregnant you are out - people would pay HUGE money to live there.

And fuck all of this "Good schools" shit - if you are honest with yourself, no matter what your income is, or is not, we ALL forgot 99.9% of everything we ever "learned" in K-12. Besides basic social skills and finding out where you fit in life's "pecking order" it is all forgot almost immediately after you regurgitate it back out on a few tests.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: keepin it real ()
Date: May 06, 2015 10:23AM

9w66v Wrote:

>
> If there were a county that only adults could live
> in and if you get pregnant you are out - people
> would pay HUGE money to live there.
>


There is that place; it's called the city. You (9w66v) must be young.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Erft ()
Date: May 06, 2015 10:28AM

It's very easy to do. The registry shows which people\parents are using school resources. Simply add at tax to their property tax.

As republicans we shouldn't have to pay for resources we don't use.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Well...... ()
Date: May 06, 2015 10:32AM

Erft Wrote:
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> It's very easy to do. The registry shows which
> people\parents are using school resources. Simply
> add at tax to their property tax.
>
> As republicans we shouldn't have to pay for
> resources we don't use.


Well, then, when you need an ambulance, you can pay $100,000 for the service.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Values ()
Date: May 06, 2015 01:38PM

Well...... Wrote:
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> Erft Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It's very easy to do. The registry shows which
> > people\parents are using school resources.
> Simply
> > add at tax to their property tax.
> >
> > As republicans we shouldn't have to pay for
> > resources we don't use.
>

You miss a key point Erft. Making public schooling available to children has nothing to do with what parents can or cannot afford. School is a service provided to the children, not their parents. It's how we conceivably break the cycle of poverty; a child born to a poor family may one day become an entrepreneur and job creator of tomorrow, thanks to them having access to an education. Most Republicans are on-board with this.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Fred C. ()
Date: May 06, 2015 03:04PM

I don't mind paying for the kids in school, but only the Natural Born White American kids. Not any mixed dark skin or Asian types. Pretty simple.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: white ()
Date: May 06, 2015 09:58PM

Fred C. Wrote:
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> I don't mind paying for the kids in school, but
> only the Natural Born White American kids. Not any
> mixed dark skin or Asian types. Pretty simple.


don't bother getting a tombstone, no one will come to your funeral or visit your grave. pretty simple.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Dr Memory ()
Date: May 06, 2015 11:05PM

Public education was started by the Founders, so it might be appropriate to consider it, having stood the test of time, as necessary to the public good:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Ordinance

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: NeJv4 ()
Date: May 07, 2015 02:02PM

Dr Memory Wrote:
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> Public education was started by the Founders, so
> it might be appropriate to consider it, having
> stood the test of time, as necessary to the public
> good:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Ordinance


Yes it has, but you missed the point too - fuck you people are dumb as shit.

Public school will be available, just like always, but only parents pay for the funding while their kids attend.

If any of you let reality sink in you will understand that public school should focus on education and discipline - drop sports, arts music and all that shit.

This will allow businesses to provide services to parents who want their child to pursue art / music etc....all the while not costing the other parents more money.
And this will stop the time wasted forcing kids to do shit they have no interest or aptitude in - and EDUCATING THE KIDS becomes the focus again.

In modern times there is such overpopulation that I do not want my money going towards things that are not for everyone. Like I said, a good school system is a farce when it comes to "tax base" and a good community. ADULTS would move to a non-child county faster than you could build it and pay much more to live there verse living in a community only concerned with "The children's future". Fuck that - we are living now and deserve that our money goes to things for US.

Lets take a democratic vote on it - see if people WILLINGLY vote to fund YOUR plans for the future. Your kids = you pay.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Values ()
Date: May 07, 2015 02:19PM

@NeJv4 - Your view of the world forgets something crucial

1) Public schools exist for and serve the children, not the parents. It is a service provided to the children, not the parents. THis is a shared value among the most of the population that children should be afforded K-12 education, regardless of their parents' ability to pay. You might disagree with this, but it doesn't make the rest of us "dumb"

2) The cost per child is more than the average family could just fork over every year: a bit over $13k. What adults in our society generally do is finance that education over the course of their tax paying lives, which is about 3.5x times longer than the 13 years of education per kid. And early on, its impossible to know which adults will have kids and which ones won't. So by definition, public schooling has to be funded out of a common pool.

You can certainly debate whether art/sports/music programs belong in schools, but that's more or less a fringe point.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Ryan McElveen For President ()
Date: May 07, 2015 02:44PM

Vote for Ryan McElveen. He has his eye on the White House. He'll take a Marshall High girl to the inauguration ball. Laurence Einuis, who will be out on parole by then, will do a special rendition of "Make Out and Touch" for their first dance.

Judy Einuis, Hillary Clinton, and Rosie McDonnell will be in some back room doing something that gets them their own bathroom.

McElveen-THE choice for Fairfax! THE choice for America!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: bogus15 ()
Date: May 07, 2015 03:50PM

I was thinking the same about you. Your whore mom should have kept her legs closed so we didn't have to fund your education either. I didn't agree to that.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Normal person ()
Date: May 07, 2015 06:33PM

The guy who started this thread represents exactly what is wrong with this country. Our founding fathers believed in public education. You want to tear it down. You want to destroy society. Congrats on being a giant asswipe. Move to Mexico you piece of shit.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: NotReally ()
Date: May 07, 2015 06:56PM

Not really - while almost all were proponents of public education, only Adams and Jefferson supported government funded (i.e. tax revenue) public education. Most saw it as a parental duty to be responsible for their children's education, whether home schooled or personally paid for. OBTW all founders would be against abortion, many were pro slavery, women were not originally granted the vote etc. etc.

The truth is the founding fathers would be sick to see how the federal government has taken over our lives. How about we stick to the constitution and get rid of the department of education and return all responsibility for education back to the states. Now that's I something I'm sure all the founding fathers would agree with.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: LEwhm ()
Date: May 07, 2015 07:42PM

NotReally Wrote:
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> Not really - while almost all were proponents of
> public education, only Adams and Jefferson
> supported government funded (i.e. tax revenue)
> public education. Most saw it as a parental duty
> to be responsible for their children's education,
> whether home schooled or personally paid for.
> OBTW all founders would be against abortion, many
> were pro slavery, women were not originally
> granted the vote etc. etc.
>
> The truth is the founding fathers would be sick to
> see how the federal government has taken over our
> lives. How about we stick to the constitution and
> get rid of the department of education and return
> all responsibility for education back to the
> states. Now that's I something I'm sure all the
> founding fathers would agree with.


Thank you - OP here and tired of people just throwing out the old " represents exactly what is wrong with this country" rhetoric.

So, the poster who said I should move to Mexico must now come to terms with the "Founding Fathers" supporting my opinion over theirs. I am "exactly what is RIGHT with this country" - ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

You have kids = you pay for their education.

I should amend my OP to include that the roads/EMT/FD/PD etc...will be funded by us and your kids will have access to their services.

Or an alternative is that if we fund your kids education they AUTOMATICALLY serve in the military for 3-4 years (No Pay).

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Normal person ()
Date: May 07, 2015 08:18PM

Go buy an island and do what you want. If you want America to remain viable and exist in the future then you better start pouring money into education. Get your spending focused on the right things. I don't care if it's federal or state funded. Education is the key to keeping the U.S. viable and competitive. A republic if you can keep it. We'll be lucky to maintain our current geographic footprint with dumbfucks like you outsourcing and defunding everything. God help us. You fuckwads are so fucked in the head it's incredible.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Dr Memory ()
Date: May 07, 2015 08:56PM

OP, or, should we say, the Old Provocateur, is actually doing us all a favor with the Revisionist Randian Ravings (aka The Three R's) by forcing us to consider once again the genius of the founders, who, before the Constitution was drafted, passed under the confederation, the Northwest Ordinance, which provided one section of land in each township, in all of the new states-to-be on the western side of the Appalachians, for the support of a school. Typically one of the four sections in the center of the township, the school was usually built on that section and the rest of the land rented to fund the school. Thus the benefits of public education were made available to all citizens, a practice seen until recently as a common good provided efficiently to all students in the district. Whether we heirs to that great tradition are worthy of the founders' vision is another topic altogether.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: OK, bad visual..... ()
Date: May 08, 2015 02:31AM

Ryan McElveen For President Wrote:
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> Vote for Ryan McElveen. He has his eye on the
> White House. He'll take a Marshall High girl to
> the inauguration ball. Laurence Einuis, who will
> be out on parole by then, will do a special
> rendition of "Make Out and Touch" for their first
> dance.
>
> Judy Einuis, Hillary Clinton, and Rosie McDonnell
> will be in some back room doing something that
> gets them their own bathroom.
>
> McElveen-THE choice for Fairfax! THE choice for
> America!


Seriously, gross!!!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Obsessed with FCPS ()
Date: May 08, 2015 08:49AM

From an unbiased stand point, who do you think sounds more obsessed. The guy who writes 42 threads a day about something that has no impact to his life, or the guy who makes fun of the person writing 42 threads a day about something that has no impact to his life.

PMSing-meme.jpeg

You need a fuckin life dude.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: WTbk7 ()
Date: May 08, 2015 02:25PM

Normal person Wrote:
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> Go buy an island and do what you want. If you want
> America to remain viable and exist in the future
> then you better start pouring money into
> education. Get your spending focused on the right
> things. I don't care if it's federal or state
> funded. Education is the key to keeping the U.S.
> viable and competitive. A republic if you can keep
> it. We'll be lucky to maintain our current
> geographic footprint with dumbfucks like you
> outsourcing and defunding everything. God help us.
> You fuckwads are so fucked in the head it's
> incredible.


You are assuming I give a fuck about this countries, or your bratty pussified kids, futures.

This country would be BETTER and much much more "viable and competitive" when people have to be accountable for their decisions AND pay for their kids educations THEMSELVES.

When parents pay for their decisions (Having kids) in terms of education, they would be so much more involved with the process and make damn sure they know where their money is going. People would PLAN before popping out 6 kids because "You always wanted a big family"

The point is that there is so much that could be done with the funds going to education that would better serve the majority of the public.

The Fathers of this Nation agree with me and you all know I am right - only people with kids think otherwise.

ALL parents in the entire USA should be responsible for funding their own childrens educations.



Maybe we should all pay higher taxes so every kid can go to college for FREE? I KNOW all of you would NOT agree to that and rightfully so - just like we do NOT agree with the exact same shit now paying for K-12.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: where we are going ()
Date: May 08, 2015 02:34PM

The schools will soon do no teaching. They will be places where there's a bathroom for every sexual preference or orientation. They will offer sports programs, as the kids can play on the turf fields that were built where classrooms used to be.

All of this will be expensive, so the schools will bring in Boosterthon, now known as Frat-a-Thon, to raise money. Kids will learn the techniques of cold calling, door to door sales, and scamming.

The kids who do make it into college will rush frats right away. Then they'll either be five (or even more) year seniors, or flunk out right away. Then they'll join their friends working at Vector Marketing, Cutco, Play It Again Sports, Apogee Retail, and All Night Video.

They won't be able to get jobs at Target or Wal-Mart because that would require knowing how to speak Spanish. FCPS will have fired all of the language teachers to pay for bathroom consultants.

The kids will still have their Boosterthon armbands and fraternity pledge pins. Now and again they'll have a toga party, and hope Ryan McElveen will show up.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Normal person ()
Date: May 08, 2015 03:05PM

WTbk7 Wrote:
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> Normal person Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Go buy an island and do what you want. If you
> want
> > America to remain viable and exist in the
> future
> > then you better start pouring money into
> > education. Get your spending focused on the
> right
> > things. I don't care if it's federal or state
> > funded. Education is the key to keeping the
> U.S.
> > viable and competitive. A republic if you can
> keep
> > it. We'll be lucky to maintain our current
> > geographic footprint with dumbfucks like you
> > outsourcing and defunding everything. God help
> us.
> > You fuckwads are so fucked in the head it's
> > incredible.
>
>
> You are assuming I give a fuck about this
> countries, or your bratty pussified kids,
> futures.
>
> This country would be BETTER and much much more
> "viable and competitive" when people have to be
> accountable for their decisions AND pay for their
> kids educations THEMSELVES.
>
> When parents pay for their decisions (Having kids)
> in terms of education, they would be so much more
> involved with the process and make damn sure they
> know where their money is going. People would PLAN
> before popping out 6 kids because "You always
> wanted a big family"
>
> The point is that there is so much that could be
> done with the funds going to education that would
> better serve the majority of the public.
>
> The Fathers of this Nation agree with me and you
> all know I am right - only people with kids think
> otherwise.
>
> ALL parents in the entire USA should be
> responsible for funding their own childrens
> educations.
>
>
>
> Maybe we should all pay higher taxes so every kid
> can go to college for FREE? I KNOW all of you
> would NOT agree to that and rightfully so - just
> like we do NOT agree with the exact same shit now
> paying for K-12.


You're a pea brain with no vision. With your plan, you actually think America will thrive? Find a new country fuckface. Maybe you'll be happy in a place with limited services. What an idiot. This country is going down the shit tube because of dumbasses like you. You offer no solution and you project no outcome. You're a selfish asshole who doesn't value the future. Go home and snuggle with your stuffed animals. Moron.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: xdtpn ()
Date: May 08, 2015 06:39PM

Normal person Wrote:
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> WTbk7 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Normal person Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Go buy an island and do what you want. If you
> > want
> > > America to remain viable and exist in the
> > future
> > > then you better start pouring money into
> > > education. Get your spending focused on the
> > right
> > > things. I don't care if it's federal or state
> > > funded. Education is the key to keeping the
> > U.S.
> > > viable and competitive. A republic if you can
> > keep
> > > it. We'll be lucky to maintain our current
> > > geographic footprint with dumbfucks like you
> > > outsourcing and defunding everything. God
> help
> > us.
> > > You fuckwads are so fucked in the head it's
> > > incredible.
> >
> >
> > You are assuming I give a fuck about this
> > countries, or your bratty pussified kids,
> > futures.
> >
> > This country would be BETTER and much much more
> > "viable and competitive" when people have to be
> > accountable for their decisions AND pay for
> their
> > kids educations THEMSELVES.
> >
> > When parents pay for their decisions (Having
> kids)
> > in terms of education, they would be so much
> more
> > involved with the process and make damn sure
> they
> > know where their money is going. People would
> PLAN
> > before popping out 6 kids because "You always
> > wanted a big family"
> >
> > The point is that there is so much that could
> be
> > done with the funds going to education that
> would
> > better serve the majority of the public.
> >
> > The Fathers of this Nation agree with me and
> you
> > all know I am right - only people with kids
> think
> > otherwise.
> >
> > ALL parents in the entire USA should be
> > responsible for funding their own childrens
> > educations.
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe we should all pay higher taxes so every
> kid
> > can go to college for FREE? I KNOW all of you
> > would NOT agree to that and rightfully so -
> just
> > like we do NOT agree with the exact same shit
> now
> > paying for K-12.
>
>
> You're a pea brain with no vision. With your plan,
> you actually think America will thrive? Find a
> new country fuckface. Maybe you'll be happy in a
> place with limited services. What an idiot. This
> country is going down the shit tube because of
> dumbasses like you. You offer no solution and you
> project no outcome. You're a selfish asshole who
> doesn't value the future. Go home and snuggle with
> your stuffed animals. Moron.


Obviously the OP is way above your intellect. No where has "limited services" been mentioned. Just a sound argument for parents funding education if these choose to have children.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Normal person ()
Date: May 08, 2015 06:53PM

xdtpn Wrote:
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> Normal person Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WTbk7 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Normal person Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Go buy an island and do what you want. If
> you
> > > want
> > > > America to remain viable and exist in the
> > > future
> > > > then you better start pouring money into
> > > > education. Get your spending focused on the
> > > right
> > > > things. I don't care if it's federal or
> state
> > > > funded. Education is the key to keeping the
> > > U.S.
> > > > viable and competitive. A republic if you
> can
> > > keep
> > > > it. We'll be lucky to maintain our current
> > > > geographic footprint with dumbfucks like
> you
> > > > outsourcing and defunding everything. God
> > help
> > > us.
> > > > You fuckwads are so fucked in the head it's
> > > > incredible.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are assuming I give a fuck about this
> > > countries, or your bratty pussified kids,
> > > futures.
> > >
> > > This country would be BETTER and much much
> more
> > > "viable and competitive" when people have to
> be
> > > accountable for their decisions AND pay for
> > their
> > > kids educations THEMSELVES.
> > >
> > > When parents pay for their decisions (Having
> > kids)
> > > in terms of education, they would be so much
> > more
> > > involved with the process and make damn sure
> > they
> > > know where their money is going. People would
> > PLAN
> > > before popping out 6 kids because "You always
> > > wanted a big family"
> > >
> > > The point is that there is so much that could
> > be
> > > done with the funds going to education that
> > would
> > > better serve the majority of the public.
> > >
> > > The Fathers of this Nation agree with me and
> > you
> > > all know I am right - only people with kids
> > think
> > > otherwise.
> > >
> > > ALL parents in the entire USA should be
> > > responsible for funding their own childrens
> > > educations.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe we should all pay higher taxes so every
> > kid
> > > can go to college for FREE? I KNOW all of you
> > > would NOT agree to that and rightfully so -
> > just
> > > like we do NOT agree with the exact same shit
> > now
> > > paying for K-12.
> >
> >
> > You're a pea brain with no vision. With your
> plan,
> > you actually think America will thrive? Find a
> > new country fuckface. Maybe you'll be happy in
> a
> > place with limited services. What an idiot.
> This
> > country is going down the shit tube because of
> > dumbasses like you. You offer no solution and
> you
> > project no outcome. You're a selfish asshole
> who
> > doesn't value the future. Go home and snuggle
> with
> > your stuffed animals. Moron.
>
>
> Obviously the OP is way above your intellect. No
> where has "limited services" been mentioned. Just
> a sound argument for parents funding education if
> these choose to have children.

Not really. The OP is a typical selfish fuck with no care for the future. He is all about him. His argument is unsound. It offers no desired result. No expected or intended consequences are considered or posited. I stand by my pea brain comment. And I apply it to you as well. Bunch of dumb fucks. America is going to shit because of you morons. Congrats on fucking it up. You pea brains are doing a great job.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: mpybX ()
Date: May 10, 2015 10:32PM

Normal person Wrote:
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>
> Not really. The OP is a typical selfish fuck with
> no care for the future. He is all about him. His
> argument is unsound. It offers no desired result.
> No expected or intended consequences are
> considered or posited. I stand by my pea brain
> comment. And I apply it to you as well. Bunch of
> dumb fucks. America is going to shit because of
> you morons. Congrats on fucking it up. You pea
> brains are doing a great job.

Wrong

People who have kids and expect others to pay for their decisions are the most selfish of all.

The country is going to shit because all of our resources are going to the minorities kids, not society in general.

This countries forefathers did NOT want publically funded education, so if you support that YOU are why this country is going to shit.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Derrrpp ()
Date: May 11, 2015 01:46PM

mpybX Wrote:
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> Normal person Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Not really. The OP is a typical selfish fuck
> with
> > no care for the future. He is all about him.
> His
> > argument is unsound. It offers no desired
> result.
> > No expected or intended consequences are
> > considered or posited. I stand by my pea brain
> > comment. And I apply it to you as well. Bunch
> of
> > dumb fucks. America is going to shit because of
> > you morons. Congrats on fucking it up. You pea
> > brains are doing a great job.
>
> Wrong
>
> People who have kids and expect others to pay for
> their decisions are the most selfish of all.
>
> The country is going to shit because all of our
> resources are going to the minorities kids, not
> society in general.
>
> This countries forefathers did NOT want publically
> funded education, so if you support that YOU are
> why this country is going to shit.


Why are you talking about other men?

Yes, let's do everything the forefathers wanted. What were their opinions on investing in alternative energy sources? Would they be okay with solar energy?

People like YOU are why this country isn't what it could be. Because you're are fucking stupid.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: bPXXV ()
Date: May 11, 2015 01:54PM

I shouldn't have to pay a dime towards the retrobate school system.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: This one ()
Date: May 11, 2015 03:18PM

Derrrpp Wrote:
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> mpybX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Normal person Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > Not really. The OP is a typical selfish fuck
> > with
> > > no care for the future. He is all about him.
> > His
> > > argument is unsound. It offers no desired
> > result.
> > > No expected or intended consequences are
> > > considered or posited. I stand by my pea
> brain
> > > comment. And I apply it to you as well. Bunch
> > of
> > > dumb fucks. America is going to shit because
> of
> > > you morons. Congrats on fucking it up. You
> pea
> > > brains are doing a great job.
> >
> > Wrong
> >
> > People who have kids and expect others to pay
> for
> > their decisions are the most selfish of all.
> >
> > The country is going to shit because all of our
> > resources are going to the minorities kids, not
> > society in general.
> >
> > This countries forefathers did NOT want
> publically
> > funded education, so if you support that YOU
> are
> > why this country is going to shit.
>
>
> Why are you talking about other men?
>
> Yes, let's do everything the forefathers wanted.
> What were their opinions on investing in
> alternative energy sources? Would they be okay
> with solar energy?
>
> People like YOU are why this country isn't what it
> could be. Because you're are fucking stupid.


This
Are forefathers didn't drive, have inside plumbing, cell phones, etc..
Should we give everything up they didn't talk about?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: your turn now ()
Date: May 11, 2015 03:23PM

The community paid for you to go to school when you were a kid. Now it's your turn. Get used to it.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Ying Ko ()
Date: May 11, 2015 05:45PM

Food for thought: Residents of Retirement Havens Resist Paying Taxes for Schools

http://articles.latimes.com/1998/mar/15/local/me-29056

I think the point is in this area, at least, many are not from here. So why should we pay taxes for your kids?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/11/2015 05:47PM by Ying Ko.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 4jVWW ()
Date: May 11, 2015 05:50PM

This one Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> This
> Are forefathers didn't drive, have inside
> plumbing, cell phones, etc..
> Should we give everything up they didn't talk
> about?


You fucking hypocrites! First yelling about our Forefathers and how I was disrespecting them and ruining the country, now when you are found wrong yoy try to change your shit up.

Pathetic.


And this moron - Posted by: your turn now


"The community paid for you to go to school when you were a kid. Now it's your turn. Get used to it."

Yeah, great idea, support a cycle that is a failure and has no benefits to society at all. The only thing schools do is babysit your brats during the day.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Other ppl ()
Date: May 13, 2015 06:31AM

4jVWW Wrote:
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> This one Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > This
> > Are forefathers didn't drive, have inside
> > plumbing, cell phones, etc..
> > Should we give everything up they didn't talk
> > about?
>
>
> You fucking hypocrites! First yelling about our
> Forefathers and how I was disrespecting them and
> ruining the country, now when you are found wrong
> yoy try to change your shit up.
>
> Pathetic.
>
>
> And this moron - Posted by: your turn now
>
>
> "The community paid for you to go to school when
> you were a kid. Now it's your turn. Get used to
> it."
>
> Yeah, great idea, support a cycle that is a
> failure and has no benefits to society at all. The
> only thing schools do is babysit your brats during
> the day.

Why are you talking about other people?

Also, maybe if you actually paid attention in school instead of just treating it like it was babysitting you, you wouldn't be as fucking stupid as you are right now.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: 9735u9i ()
Date: May 13, 2015 06:58AM

My house has never caught on fire.
I have never needed an ambulance.
I don't care to pay $ 250,000 each time I need these services.


It is called investing in infrastructure.

And yes, I used up 26 years of public school for my kids which totals up to over $300,000 of services. I am paying that off now that my kids are grown.

If you chose to put your kids in private school instead of using what you were already paying for, that was your choice.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: SOMEPARENT ()
Date: May 13, 2015 01:04PM

I have kids in the schools and not only do I not think I should pay for them, but I think we should all get a refund. FCPS SUCKS.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: kFepY ()
Date: May 13, 2015 01:40PM

Other ppl Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> Why are you talking about other people?

????



> Also, maybe if you actually paid attention in
> school instead of just treating it like it was
> babysitting you, you wouldn't be as fucking stupid
> as you are right now.


Name-calling - I was wrong some people do retain things learned in school, like 3rd grade problem resolution for this ignorant poster.

And again - take a vote and see what the outcome is, we are supposed to be a democratic society. And NO, voting HOW MUCH to fund something does not count.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Derpadoo ()
Date: May 14, 2015 03:58AM

kFepY Wrote:
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> Other ppl Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Why are you talking about other people?
>
> ????
>
>
>
> > Also, maybe if you actually paid attention in
> > school instead of just treating it like it was
> > babysitting you, you wouldn't be as fucking
> stupid
> > as you are right now.
>
>
> Name-calling - I was wrong some people do retain
> things learned in school, like 3rd grade problem
> resolution for this ignorant poster.
>
> And again - take a vote and see what the outcome
> is, we are supposed to be a democratic society.
> And NO, voting HOW MUCH to fund something does not
> count.


In your previous post you called people "fucking hypocrites" and "morons". Now you're going to get on a soapbox about someone else using insults in reply?

Speaking of fucking hypocrites..

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Libertari-tards! ()
Date: May 14, 2015 08:10AM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.

Libertari-tards!

LoLz!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Boiler ()
Date: May 14, 2015 06:16PM

I think an educated society is good in general and we all need to pitch in a bit to make it so. It's these kids who need education in order to take care of their parents, and the childless adults when they get older. Not sure why non-parents can't see this. I am not a parent but I must contribute to society and do my part to make it better.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Ted ()
Date: May 29, 2015 03:15PM

Why would we want to attract more families when we are over populated??? Don't you notice the traffic around here? It's unbearable

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Grace ()
Date: May 29, 2015 03:20PM

why should I have to pay double when my kids aren't being babysat by transgender approved teachers? Why should I have to pay for some kids free breakfast and lunch because their parents (who choose to have them) can't afford it.

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: ohmy!!!! ()
Date: May 31, 2015 08:47AM

Grace Grace Grace !!!!

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: ...in the 22039 ()
Date: May 31, 2015 09:50AM

your kids you pay Wrote:
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> Those of us with no kids have no interest in
> funding your decisions.


Too bad. That's not how it works. Now, not saying the school board and Board of Supervisors shouldn't reign in their costs. A LOT of waste goes on. But without good schools and infrastructure, this area would not have the complete draw it has.

There are many things I disagree with respect to the BOS spending $$$$$, and really didn't appreciate my property tax hike this year (based on assessed values), but what can one do?

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: riddance ()
Date: May 31, 2015 10:09PM

good riddance to the school board

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Re: Only FFX Parents with kids in school should pay for them
Posted by: Back to the Future? ()
Date: May 31, 2015 10:53PM

FCPS will run out of money. They will cut teachers but a single administrator.

Use of consultants will increase. Eric Jensen will proclaim himself an expert on running school systems on reduced funds.

A new Board of Supervisors will fire Garza. The new school board will not fight this.

By the time FCPS gets its act back together, less than 20% of the incoming students will speak English. ¡Que Lastima!

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