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Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Whats going on ()
Date: April 28, 2015 02:59PM

The rioters and looters represent a criminal element that will take advantage of any situation to steal and vandalize.They are criminals plain and simple.
What should really concern Americans of all races is the impunity with which some police departments and individual officers act. They are supposed to be
"our finest"and be held to a higher standard. Review boards are not effective in dealing with repetitive criminal behavior by cops . Systematic victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our society only serves to reveal what some of our police really are.Swift and conclusive removal of such persons from law enforcement is critical for all of us and honors the cops who truly protect and serve.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Fucking Democrat fucks ()
Date: April 28, 2015 03:02PM

More whites (by %) are injured by police.

Fuck democrats

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: d3XHC ()
Date: April 28, 2015 03:02PM

Sorry but the majority of those individuals in Baltimore need their heads bashed in.

Would you want to police that ghetto?

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Just saying ()
Date: April 28, 2015 03:10PM

No I wouldnt want to police that place. Im not pulling a paycheck to do it however. If individual officers cant do the job in a legal fashion,they should quit . If they dont quit thiersupervisors should put them out.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: The youth of the nation ()
Date: April 28, 2015 03:24PM

Think about it

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: wrongg ()
Date: April 28, 2015 03:43PM

Whats going on Wrote:
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> The rioters and looters represent a criminal
> element that will take advantage of any situation
> to steal and vandalize.They are criminals plain
> and simple.
> What should really concern Americans of all races
> is the impunity with which some police
> departments and individual officers act. They are
> supposed to be
> "our finest"and be held to a higher standard.
> Review boards are not effective in dealing with
> repetitive criminal behavior by cops . Systematic
> victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our
> society only serves to reveal what some of our
> police really are.Swift and conclusive removal of
> such persons from law enforcement is critical for
> all of us and honors the cops who truly protect
> and serve.


The real issue is, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time..no no don't do it."

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Ralph Pootawn ()
Date: April 28, 2015 04:15PM

The youth of the nation Wrote:
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> Think about it
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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: cause of most unrest ()
Date: April 28, 2015 05:11PM

Injustice is the cause of most unrest. The case in Baltimore is just another example of police abuse. Cops have a hard job but if you kill someone by breaking their back while in your custody - thats injustice. Kill someone by shooting them in the back for a broken tail light - injustice. Cops can take cash from anyone, anytime without any charges - injustice.

Every day we see some jerkoff cop doing unthinkable things. Its obvious that this goes on all the time and camera phones are just now allowing us to capture it. The assholes looting in Baltimore are animals and they are flat wrong for what they are doing. But thats what lead-poisoned broke people do when they have nothing left to lose. We have to fix the police and do it right away.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Mike O'Measra Show Fan ()
Date: April 28, 2015 05:56PM

Misbehavior and crimes by police DO concern me. But the nigger behavior is not helping.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: whats the next big thing ()
Date: April 28, 2015 05:58PM

So when you eliminate the police abuse factor, what will be the next reason for high murder and crime rates,,,,,chime in libs

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: kecwd ()
Date: April 28, 2015 11:24PM

Whats going on Wrote:
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> The rioters and looters represent a criminal
> element that will take advantage of any situation
> to steal and vandalize.They are criminals plain
> and simple.
> What should really concern Americans of all races
> is the impunity with which some police
> departments and individual officers act. They are
> supposed to be
> "our finest"and be held to a higher standard.
> Review boards are not effective in dealing with
> repetitive criminal behavior by cops . Systematic
> victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our
> society only serves to reveal what some of our
> police really are.Swift and conclusive removal of
> such persons from law enforcement is critical for
> all of us and honors the cops who truly protect
> and serve.


Your post is mostly correct excluding this part --- "Systematic victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our society".

That comment is false and is a constant excuse used to "explain" why there are so many societal problems in the black communities. When the black communities hold themselves accountable for their own actions and decisions, is when real change will happen.

The majority of the people in black communities that are considered "disadvantaged" prefer to be that way and it is often embraced as some sort of badge of real "thug" cred. In a black community, trying to advance oneself out of their situation to a better place in life is considered "selling out" and not supported as an option. Being "disadvantaged" in all other ethnicities is a real problem and they, for the most part, attempt to change things for the better, but in black communities it equates to not having to be responsible or accountable for your actions.

Addressing police accountability? I believe that police body cams will reduce the small amount of police brutality that does exist, but will also expose the savage public the police have to deal with on a daily basis. So, two unwanted realities will need to be faced for the black community --- the lack of wide spread police abuse accompanied with undisputable evidence of the violent black culture. You really only need to look at social media to see the violence that exists in black communities --- a great example is http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/ - this site is the most popular among black youth to post videos of violence, criminal acts and overall ignorant behavior of THEMSELVES. This site is where BLACK people post videos of other BLACK people proving all the stereotypes they have been "wrongly" labelled with are absolutely founded in fact. It really is a real look into the lives of black people - decisions, actions, morals, ethics and so much more. The sad reality is that they are ENJOYING showing the world their violent, ignorant and apathetic culture.

Addressing police brutality is not even on the radar when it comes to real problems in black communities.

Real problems could be teen pregnancy - drug use - single parent homes, but these are evident in all racial groups, yet black communities are the ones that fail. Also, it is no surprise that the blacks are the only race that blame the WHITE MAN for all their personal problems.

Almost every group --- African, Jewish, Irish, Italian, Chinese, Japanese and so on...have been enslaved and treated horribly when first coming to, or brought to, this country. There were many other ethnicities brought as slaves besides blacks. Every group has been ridiculed and treated as sub human to great extents and every group has climbed above all the obstacles to assimilate and prosper in our nation except blacks. All these other groups have taken the steps to become a part of our nation without having to give up their cultural identities --- in fact, we celebrate our different heritages TOGETHER in this country peacefully.....again excluding blacks - violence is always present when even remotely large groups of blacks are together in one place.

You can not categorize a segment of the population as "victims", while they are the ones destroying their own environments. There is no group of people "holding down" the black population, quite the opposite. Every out reach program - special funding for education or housing --- anything of this nature that is implemented or attempted is quickly destroyed when introduced into black communities, yet is somehow relatively successful in non-black areas.

Baltimore offers a recent example of the above. The destruction of a multimillion dollar housing project aimed to help the poor --- burned to the ground by the people who live there - blacks.

What does a black community consist of? Well, unfortunately,
the most dangerous species on earth, the young black male, makes up a large portion of those communities.

Overall, black communities are less than 13% of our nations population, but responsible for 75%+ of ALL violent crime. 97% of black people are killed by other black people.

The above are facts that tell the true story about WHO is really violent overall and towards blacks --- it is blacks --- not whites or police.


Also in Baltimore some real black leaders emerged. Those absolutely honorable men who formed the line between the police and the "protestors" are the first of what I hope becomes commonplace. These guys are standing in the face of black community ridicule and violent retribution. These MEN are what this nation needs a thousand times over --- people of whatever race standing up against the ignorant, violent and most racist of there own kind.

These guys are black leaders, not the race baiting millionaires like Sharpton and Jackson. Not the church "leaders" who advocate for the poor while living lavishly off the poor's money donated to them in the name of God.

There are other black men who call out the black community on their violent behavior, hypocritical views on racism and their own unaccountable nature in general, but they are very few and gain little attention.

When the tide turns and actual black leaders point out the truth of how, why and who really holds the black community back, which is themselves --- maybe black people will listen. It is going to have to be people that are celebrities, unfortunately, because in our society they are heard much more than anyone else. The Jordans and LeBrons need to speak up, even if it hurts their sales of whatever merchandise. Actors, sports stars and entertainers need to speak up and it has to in great numbers. I know that rappers will not, because the "culture" they sell is one of poverty, crime and overall violence --- yet they move out of that "culture" as soon as possible.

There is no great mystery WHY blacks are so violent and apathetic. It is quite simple really. Humans tend to take the easy way out of everything and are quick to USE whatever excuses they can for their personal failures and poor decisions. The black community has a built in excuse for ANYTHING they do --- it is because of the RACIST WHITE MAN.

All ethnicities have their own share of racists and each should be called out if acting ignorant or violent. The problem is WHO is doing the calling out, not the action itself. In our society of today, ANY race can be held accountable by ANY OTHER race for their ignorant, violent or apathetic actions EXCLUDING the black race --- ONLY blacks can call out other blacks. Add to that, when blacks hold their own race accountable for their ignorant, violent or apathetic actions, those people are considered LESS BLACK and are inaccurately categorized as against their own people.

It has created the perfect little bubble for blacks to do whatever they want to with no accountability. If anyone from another race points out their ignorant, violent and apathetic behavior, they are immediately a racist. If other black people point out their ignorant, violent and apathetic behavior, they are immediately labelled as "Trying to be white", which equals racist. The perfect mentality has been created for the ignorant, violent and apathetic blacks to live in with no accountability for their decision and actions.

The most racist group in our society is the black community, they use racism like a weapon and a band-aid at the same time. Blacks are violent towards EVERYONE, yet when convenient ask for hand outs from the same society that they victimize.

At some point in our nation's history, each new ethnicity was treated horribly and for each group those times have passed. Those times will never be forgotten or under valued for the brave people who lived through them and created change. In modern day America, it is an antiquated and false ideal that there is a "Systematic victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our society". The real black leaders of the past, as well as the ones I witnessed today in Baltimore, would never surrender their self respect or worth in exchange for that nonsense.

Today in Baltimore, something so much larger and important happened verse just possibly identifying a few bad cops, real men of character identified themselves. They formed a line between the police and "protestors" --- this group of black men have spoke up and stood up against the violence, ignorance and apathy that exists in their communities. I have seen many of these protests and watched as nothing changed and no one was heard over the usual rhetoric, but this time I witnessed a small group of men who I will remember forever as true heroes --- I just hope as these men spoke up and stood up that some with the same ideals and courage will listen and rise with them in the future.


PPP

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Bullshits ()
Date: April 28, 2015 11:38PM

cause of most unrest Wrote:
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> Injustice is the cause of most unrest.

Bullshit.

Expecting free shit and not getting it is the cause of most unrest.

Looting the local liquor store and CVS is one way to get free stuff.

Then burn them down and expect The Man to provide more free shit.

Rinse and repeat.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: mjs82 ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:17AM

Just think,

If the the six cops had fessed up to what really happened... Would baltimore have been burned...

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Walter Scott ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:20AM

mjs82 Wrote:
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> Just think,
>
> If the the six cops had fessed up to what really
> happened... Would baltimore have been burned...

Maybe, there were just mob attacks in Charleston. And that cop has already been fired and jailed for murder.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: does not exist ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:22AM

There is no police accountability. Fairfax has gone out of its way to make sure this is the case.

Just another reason to vote everyone on the board of supervisors out of office, let some new talent try their hand at things.

This also means that people like Storck and Smith who want to leap from the school board to county board should not be elected to that position. They have had their chance, Karen Garza's begging and threats show what a farce FCPS has become under the current leadership.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: whats going on ()
Date: April 29, 2015 11:48AM

I read the post of kecwd with interest. A lot of valid stuff about the failure of black society to accept the values and ambitions which other racial groups have adopted to succeed and be accepted in society . My point about rogue police was intended to demonstrate that such police will inflict their illegal violence against persons and groups who have little or no recourse in the system. Homeless and poor people and chronic substance abusers and mentally ill of all races are the favorite targets of such bullies. A "police culture" of never reporting misbehavior by other police further protects such bullies.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: kev ()
Date: April 29, 2015 12:15PM

While the actions of the looters and people starting fires is not justifiable, at all, the root of the problem is people are fed up with poor police behavior. Everytime some, of color, gets shot or killed in a questionable manner, people get more riled up.

Non of this is going to change until there's a change in mindset of the police around the country. They're trained to be trigger happy and can pretty much do whatever they want the minute they feel "threatened". Anyone remember the lady at Costco in Centerville who got shot for waving around a knife?

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Alexander Smith ()
Date: April 29, 2015 12:47PM

Whats going on Wrote:
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> The rioters and looters represent a criminal
> element that will take advantage of any situation
> to steal and vandalize.They are criminals plain
> and simple.
> What should really concern Americans of all races
> is the impunity with which some police
> departments and individual officers act. They are
> supposed to be
> "our finest"and be held to a higher standard.
> Review boards are not effective in dealing with
> repetitive criminal behavior by cops . Systematic
> victimization of a disadvantaged segment of our
> society only serves to reveal what some of our
> police really are.Swift and conclusive removal of
> such persons from law enforcement is critical for
> all of us and honors the cops who truly protect
> and serve.


+1
Well said, brother.

A huge problem, just like you pointed out, is that these criminals are supposed to be held to a much higher standard, just like politicians. When police commit a crime, they shall be punished to the maximum extend that the law permits.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: April 29, 2015 01:43PM

Alexander Smith Wrote:
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>
> +1
> Well said, brother.
>
> A huge problem, just like you pointed out, is that
> these criminals are supposed to be held to a much
> higher standard, just like politicians. When
> police commit a crime, they shall be punished to
> the maximum extend that the law permits.


Really? Well that standard didnt seem to apply to Dead Fred. 22 arrests in 8 years and he was still walking the streets pedaling dope.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Amanda Perry-Pillar of Society ()
Date: April 29, 2015 02:07PM

Former FCPD officer, Amanda Perry, through reckless driving, killed a beloved teacher.

She was NOT fired. They put her on administrative duty. She was caught faking her timesheets, THAT got her fired.

Didn't stop her for long-she got a job at Jacobs Engineering on a project at Ft. Belvoir. She's not there any more, there's probably a story.

FCPD should have dealt with her, and dealt with her severely. Instead, they will hassle you over a taillight.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: dope pedaler ()
Date: April 29, 2015 07:02PM

Pedaling dope? Selling weed off a bicycle?

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Body cams! ()
Date: April 29, 2015 07:11PM

Body cams!

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Clobbersaurus ()
Date: April 29, 2015 07:13PM

Cops gonna cop

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: You are an idoit ()
Date: April 30, 2015 10:29PM

kev Wrote:
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> While the actions of the looters and people
> starting fires is not justifiable, at all, the
> root of the problem is people are fed up with poor
> police behavior. Everytime some, of color, gets
> shot or killed in a questionable manner, people
> get more riled up.
>
> Non of this is going to change until there's a
> change in mindset of the police around the
> country. They're trained to be trigger happy and
> can pretty much do whatever they want the minute
> they feel "threatened". Anyone remember the lady
> at Costco in Centerville who got shot for waving
> around a knife?

Hey dumb ass..at least get your story right. The Costco pizza lady was shot by LOUDOUN COUNTY Sheriff Deputies in LOUDOUN COUNTY.

There is not even a Costco in Centreville.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: True The Vote ! ()
Date: April 30, 2015 11:23PM

Dead Fred is already saving Baltimore a shitload of cash by not clogging up their court system.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: Its not working. ()
Date: May 01, 2015 07:14AM

Truth is the police can do whatever they want to you, including kill you, and get paid to do it. Sucks but that is reality. So many cops are good people but not all. Some are ignorant, scared sadists. For those of us the rarely interact with the police its just better to be polite and eat shit till you can get a lawyer. Many of the inner city folks in violent areas are struggling against constant interactions with the cops where emotions are high and they know they will never get a lawyer.

I would say we need to help both the peps in Baltimore and the police. The police are obviously done there. They need better leadership and training and we need some solution other than violence and incarceration. Its not working.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: what a laugh ()
Date: May 01, 2015 07:37AM

If you run from a cop you are going to get hurt. It's expected and a no brained. Why would you run if your not guilty of something? The problem is libtardz destroying America and family values while expanding the poor.
Duh! It's not rocket science.

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Re: Police accountability is the real issue
Posted by: kev ()
Date: May 01, 2015 09:09AM

You are an idoit Wrote:
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> kev Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > While the actions of the looters and people
> > starting fires is not justifiable, at all, the
> > root of the problem is people are fed up with
> poor
> > police behavior. Everytime some, of color, gets
> > shot or killed in a questionable manner, people
> > get more riled up.
> >
> > Non of this is going to change until there's a
> > change in mindset of the police around the
> > country. They're trained to be trigger happy
> and
> > can pretty much do whatever they want the
> minute
> > they feel "threatened". Anyone remember the
> lady
> > at Costco in Centerville who got shot for
> waving
> > around a knife?
>
> Hey dumb ass..at least get your story right. The
> Costco pizza lady was shot by LOUDOUN COUNTY
> Sheriff Deputies in LOUDOUN COUNTY.
>
> There is not even a Costco in Centreville.

Seriously? How nit picky. Sorry, its Chantilly, 2 miles away from Centreville. And since this thread is talking about events outside of Fairfax I think Loudoun is fair game.

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