Why don't we have bodycams on all FCPD officers?

we are not a rich county man

i take my sarcastic post back we are rich and can afford it but when have you ever seen this place spend money on things we need?

oh but our high schools got some new turf

lol priorities

Because then people like FCPD officer Adam Torres of fairfax county police department in fairfax, VA

wouldn't be able to get away with murdering innocent people any longer

If they can buy new helicopters they can buy a few GoPros and dashcams. No reason why we shouldn't hold the people responsible for protecting us, accountable.

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> Because then people like FCPD officer Adam Torres
> of fairfax county police department in fairfax, VA
>
>
> wouldn't be able to get away with murdering
> innocent people any longer


This is 100% true. We don't spend funding on anything that is actually needed in this county. It's a really fucked up situation which hurts us tax-payers. ALL of law-enforcement needs body and vehicle cameras so that it protects us citizens from abuse.

From the amount we spend on utterly useless shit, like retarded studies to the egregious saleries of public officials, we could spend a few bucks to equip ever single cops with a camera for very cheap. I, as a tax-payer, demand to have a say in this. Please write to your local officials, I already have.

I would approve of body cams only if the police put a video of the biggest asshole citizen of the day on their website. I know if would be hard to determine a winner with so many contenders but a video complete with the citizens name and occupation would be entertaining.

look around Wrote:
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> i take my sarcastic post back we are rich and can
> afford it but when have you ever seen this place
> spend money on things we need?
>
> oh but our high schools got some new turf
>
> lol priorities


Read an article recently about Berkeley idiots thinking it was a great idea until they realized that storage would cost $25 per month per officer and for each new month. Plus they'd have had to hire two people to catalog, tag, archive.

So smarty pants how many FCPD officers are there? Then multiply that by $25 for each month of storage. It gets expensive quickly.

Month 1: $25
Month 2: $25 for month 1's data storage plus $25 for the current month, total of $50
Month 3: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for month 3, total of $75
Month 4: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for month 3, $25 for month 4, total of $100
Month 5: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, total of $125
Month 6: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, $25 for month 6, total of $150


So only halfway through the year we've spent $550 for storing video (haven't even included costs for equipment purchase, equipment repair, equipment replacement, office training) to capture the off chance that an officer is accused of doing something wrong.

Even a so called rich county will realize that those types are costs are unsustainable.

Fairfax county does not have the black population to justify the cameras (over all low crime rate because of lack of diversity.) The police in fx have to shoot unarmed white people to get their kill jollys in. Fairfax police academy 101.

Has anyone stopped to consider the vast amount of new surveillance these cameras will enable? It's amazing how that gets lost in the whole "let's keep the cops accountable line".

I'd say its worth at least asking the question: do we want all these cameras pointed at us?

Sustainability Wrote:
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> look around Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i take my sarcastic post back we are rich and
> can
> > afford it but when have you ever seen this
> place
> > spend money on things we need?
> >
> > oh but our high schools got some new turf
> >
> > lol priorities
>
>
> Read an article recently about Berkeley idiots
> thinking it was a great idea until they realized
> that storage would cost $25 per month per officer
> and for each new month. Plus they'd have had to
> hire two people to catalog, tag, archive.
>
> So smarty pants how many FCPD officers are there?
> Then multiply that by $25 for each month of
> storage. It gets expensive quickly.
>
> Month 1: $25
> Month 2: $25 for month 1's data storage plus $25
> for the current month, total of $50
> Month 3: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, total of $75
> Month 4: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, total of $100
> Month 5: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, total
> of $125
> Month 6: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, $25 for
> month 6, total of $150
>
>
> So only halfway through the year we've spent $550
> for storing video (haven't even included costs for
> equipment purchase, equipment repair, equipment
> replacement, office training) to capture the off
> chance that an officer is accused of doing
> something wrong.
>
> Even a so called rich county will realize that
> those types are costs are unsustainable.


The 2.xx million that was paid out to the family would have been a good start genius

> The 2.xx million that was paid out to the family
> would have been a good start genius

It's actually cheaper overall to pay out settlements for the few times they happen rather than increasing the costs all year, year after year for additional monitoring and still have to budget for settlements.

Because Wrote:
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> Sustainability Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > look around Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > i take my sarcastic post back we are rich and
> > can
> > > afford it but when have you ever seen this
> > place
> > > spend money on things we need?
> > >
> > > oh but our high schools got some new turf
> > >
> > > lol priorities
> >
> >
> > Read an article recently about Berkeley idiots
> > thinking it was a great idea until they
> realized
> > that storage would cost $25 per month per
> officer
> > and for each new month. Plus they'd have had to
> > hire two people to catalog, tag, archive.
> >
> > So smarty pants how many FCPD officers are
> there?
> > Then multiply that by $25 for each month of
> > storage. It gets expensive quickly.
> >
> > Month 1: $25
> > Month 2: $25 for month 1's data storage plus
> $25
> > for the current month, total of $50
> > Month 3: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25
> for
> > month 3, total of $75
> > Month 4: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25
> for
> > month 3, $25 for month 4, total of $100
> > Month 5: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25
> for
> > month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5,
> total
> > of $125
> > Month 6: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25
> for
> > month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, $25
> for
> > month 6, total of $150
> >
> >
> > So only halfway through the year we've spent
> $550
> > for storing video (haven't even included costs
> for
> > equipment purchase, equipment repair, equipment
> > replacement, office training) to capture the
> off
> > chance that an officer is accused of doing
> > something wrong.
> >
> > Even a so called rich county will realize that
> > those types are costs are unsustainable.
>
>
> The 2.xx million that was paid out to the family
> would have been a good start genius

And it would have proven that Torres was wrong and the county would have still shelled out the money. So under your scenario we pay out for the lawsuit and the video storage. What a genius you are.

So if the calculations are correct, $550 per officer for 6 months =$1100 per officer x 1500 officers = $1,650,000 just for storage....that's every year + the cost of purchase, maintenance and training...I have no idea what they would be but to the "genius" who thinks $2M one time payment to the family would be a good start...well, not really. This wold be the cost every year, the county doesn't have a wrongful death payout every year....plus, if the cop was found at fault, the payout would be made anyway, in addition to the cost of the body cams.

Body cameras will be coming to FCPD!!! Expect a pilot in 2015 with full rollout later.

Sustainability Wrote:
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> look around Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i take my sarcastic post back we are rich and
> can
> > afford it but when have you ever seen this
> place
> > spend money on things we need?
> >
> > oh but our high schools got some new turf
> >
> > lol priorities
>
>
> Read an article recently about Berkeley idiots
> thinking it was a great idea until they realized
> that storage would cost $25 per month per officer
> and for each new month. Plus they'd have had to
> hire two people to catalog, tag, archive.
>
> So smarty pants how many FCPD officers are there?
> Then multiply that by $25 for each month of
> storage. It gets expensive quickly.
>
> Month 1: $25
> Month 2: $25 for month 1's data storage plus $25
> for the current month, total of $50
> Month 3: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, total of $75
> Month 4: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, total of $100
> Month 5: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, total
> of $125
> Month 6: $25 for month 1, $25 for month 2, $25 for
> month 3, $25 for month 4, $25 for month 5, $25 for
> month 6, total of $150
>
>
> So only halfway through the year we've spent $550
> for storing video (haven't even included costs for
> equipment purchase, equipment repair, equipment
> replacement, office training) to capture the off
> chance that an officer is accused of doing
> something wrong.
>
> Even a so called rich county will realize that
> those types are costs are unsustainable.

Those prices are stupid high.

Even playing along saying it will cost $25 per month to store the data, you could just delete footage after 90 days. 90 days is plenty.


Date storage is getting cheaper and cheaper, there are tons of services who offer amounts of 250gb for free, which would be way less than 90 days of compressed video.

The county could do everything in house, just invest in a few petabytes of storage upfront, and manage everything themselves. 3 or 4 IT geeks to manage and store the data, would be under <250k/year. That's some entry level stuff.