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FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Citizen--- ()
Date: April 14, 2015 03:20PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-county-school-board-approves-higher-salaries-for-board-members/2015/04/13/45555ba0-e200-11e4-905f-cc896d379a32_story.html

What do you think taxpayers will get for the increase in School Board salary from $20,000 to $32,000? Will they actually return messages? Will they make sure problems get fixed? Will they hold staff accountable?

Let's go, people.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: start printing money ()
Date: April 14, 2015 03:28PM

The County has announced their new initiative, anyone who feels they are underpaid can vote to give themselves a raise. You cant make this shit up. Another step towards losing that triple A bond rating.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Dinner plans ()
Date: April 14, 2015 05:38PM

They are all going out to dinner Friday night to celebrate...oops....discuss these issues. And we are going to pick up the tab.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 14, 2015 05:57PM

There are some here who believe that elected officials, perhaps even all public service employees, should feel grateful to receive whatever scraps they get for their services. When you figure out how much time they spend working, including all of the time they spend at different school and community functions, add in the time they spend campaigning, and deduct from their pay their out of pocket costs, I suspect we are not really paying school board members that much per hour. Even if you added up all of the costs of this pay raise it probably wouldn't cover the cost of more than 3-4 teachers, and what the School Board is doing isn't much different than what routinely happens with executive compensation at many large companies in this country.

That said it is a poor PR move to increase school board compensation by over 50% at a time when many school employees have been getting either no pay raises or only minimal pay raises, when classroom sizes are increasing, and when many non-school county programs are getting cut in order to provide funds to increase the amount spent on schools.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Well...... ()
Date: April 14, 2015 06:02PM

Bill N.-the cost of campaigning is a personal expense.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 14, 2015 06:28PM

Only the tax code draws such fine distinctions my friend.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: ummm ()
Date: April 14, 2015 06:40PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> There are some here who believe that elected
> officials, perhaps even all public service
> employees, should feel grateful to receive
> whatever scraps they get for their services. When
> you figure out how much time they spend working,
> including all of the time they spend at different
> school and community functions, add in the time
> they spend campaigning, and deduct from their pay
> their out of pocket costs, I suspect we are not
> really paying school board members that much per
> hour. Even if you added up all of the costs of
> this pay raise it probably wouldn't cover the cost
> of more than 3-4 teachers, and what the School
> Board is doing isn't much different than what
> routinely happens with executive compensation at
> many large companies in this country.
>
> That said it is a poor PR move to increase school
> board compensation by over 50% at a time when many
> school employees have been getting either no pay
> raises or only minimal pay raises, when classroom
> sizes are increasing, and when many non-school
> county programs are getting cut in order to
> provide funds to increase the amount spent on
> schools.


Great job sitting on the fence Bill, quite a significant contribution of info.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 14, 2015 07:06PM

Guess I wasn't clear enough then. They do deserve it, but it is a stupid idea to implement it now.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: I gave up ()
Date: April 14, 2015 07:45PM

My school board person never got back to me. Neither did anybody else from the school system. And they think they deserve another $12,000 a year for this? They think they deserve $150,000+ a year? I am sure they put in some hours but how difficult is a phone call?

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Really? ()
Date: April 14, 2015 09:20PM

People! How many times does it have to be said?? You are the ones to do something about this. Stop re-electing these fools over and over again!!! You have the power; use it! Again, stop electing them!!!!!

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Hvc7&/ ()
Date: April 15, 2015 06:33AM

Really? Wrote:
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> People! How many times does it have to be said??
> You are the ones to do something about this. Stop
> re-electing these fools over and over again!!!
> You have the power; use it! Again, stop electing
> them!!!!!

That is easier said than done. They put their name out there, nobody else wants to do it, they run against minimal opposition, and they are in. Even if you personally want the job, it is very hard to get enough votes to defeat another opponent.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill N. is an idiot ()
Date: April 15, 2015 07:51AM

Fucking communist.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: who abstained? ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:58AM

All of them should be thrown out, starting with the ones who voted for the raise.

The ones who abstained should be ashamed.

The ones who voted against it should be denouncing the others.

It is time for a new school board, one that will send Garza back to Texas.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: old ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:59AM

For many years, the School Board was an appointed position.

Then there was a movement to make the School Board an elected position because then the Board would be SOOOO much more responsive to parents.

Be careful what you wish for, you stupid motherfuckers!!!

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: the irony of it all ()
Date: April 15, 2015 11:12AM

The irony of it is they are unresponsive, and then Ryan McElveen wonders why people don't respect them.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: JbY54(? ()
Date: April 15, 2015 11:26AM

the irony of it all Wrote:
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> The irony of it is they are unresponsive, and then
> Ryan McElveen wonders why people don't respect
> them.


They are more than unresponsive. I think they are six feet under.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 15, 2015 12:20PM

Bill N. is an idiot Wrote:
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> Fucking communist.

Using your definition of communist, so is about 70% of the country.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: wrong... ()
Date: April 15, 2015 12:39PM

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Bill N. is an idiot Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fucking communist.
>
> Using your definition of communist, so is about
> 70% of the country.


Wrong!!! Just you, Obama suckers and MSNBC.

Long live the government! FUCK THE PEOPLE! It's the liberal way!

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: The plan. ()
Date: April 15, 2015 01:45PM

This is how it usually works.

You identify a problem.
You try to work it out at the school level.
When that flops, you go to your Super, who punts it right back to your school.
After that doesn't work, you contact your School Board member.
They in turn contact the Super, who then contacts the school, and you are right back where you started from.

And then nobody returns any messages.

Sound familiar to anybody?

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: April 15, 2015 03:25PM

wrong... Wrote:
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> Wrong!!! Just you, Obama suckers and MSNBC.
>
> Long live the government! FUCK THE PEOPLE! It's
> the liberal way!

I should have remembered that I can't mud wrestle a troll without getting dirty.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: vote them ALL out ()
Date: April 16, 2015 01:51PM

The entire school board and board of supervisors need to be voted out.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: JSfYgWef ()
Date: April 16, 2015 02:44PM

This is how it usually works-

You identify a problem.
You try to work it out at the school level.
When that flops, you go to your Super, who punts it right back to your school.
After that doesn't work, you contact your School Board member.
They in turn contact the Super, who then contacts the school, and you are right back where you started from.

And then nobody returns any messages.

Sound familiar to anybody?

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: singin' the same ol' song ()
Date: April 16, 2015 03:28PM

I got those Boosterthon Blues, baby!

I got no pledges on my pad,

That Brett Trapp, he's getting kinda mad!

No prizes for me, I'm feelin' really sad.

I got dem Boosterthon Blues.

They says I need to call everyone I know,

Do what you must, even put on a show!

Go door to door, even in the snow.

I got dem Boosterthon Blues.

Atwater says the matter is closed.

The PTA is being hard nosed,

Who even knows what Chris Carneal proposed?

I got dem Boosterthon Blues.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: FDjWX ()
Date: April 16, 2015 05:59PM

/fairfax-county-school-board-approves-higher-salaries-for-board-members/


board members approve higher salaries for themselves. so fucking what.

i have holes in my socks no spare shoes (only work shoe)

and the mother fuckers are skipping court on me after stalking me at work.

# I approve myself the lawsuit money they skipped court on becaue they know they are getting away with a massive felony doing so.


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: nehuU ()
Date: April 16, 2015 06:01PM

no accountant in their right mind would show me a book that shows they approved their own huge raise and massive loans to friends

i'd make them eat it

they'd never say it to my face unless they were armed

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: lk9876yhfgd ()
Date: April 16, 2015 07:44PM

This is how it usually works->

You identify a problem.
You try to work it out at the school level.
When that flops, you go to your Super, who punts it right back to your school.
After that doesn't work, you contact your School Board member.
They in turn contact the Super, who then contacts the school, and you are right back where you started from.

And then nobody returns any messages.

Sound familiar to anybody?

...and then they vote themselves a pay raise.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Date: April 16, 2015 09:29PM

school board only makes 32,000? I'm actually shocked.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Give it a rest ()
Date: April 16, 2015 11:45PM

Every time I have contacted a school board member I've received a prompt response. In fact, the school board member in my district shares a home phone number.

School Board members work close to full time and it distracts from the ability to hold another job. Even with this raise they are vastly underpaid.

If the Board of Supervisors, who oversee slightly less money than the School Board can be paid close to 6 figures, why can't the School Board get paid $30K?

To all the complainers on this site, let's see you do a better job.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: diff'rent strokes ()
Date: April 17, 2015 12:30AM

My experience has been quite different-with my regional board member and the at large members. I plan to vote against all of them, as I see them as useless.

I feel the same about the Board of Supervisors.

It is time for change.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: 4444444 ()
Date: April 17, 2015 06:06AM

>Every time I have contacted a school board member I've received a prompt response. In fact, the school board member in my district shares a home phone number.<



Who is your School Board member? Name them. I don't believe you.
I think they work some long hours. I think maybe they deserve a raise. I don't expect them to do this for free. But, if you are not going to get back to your constituents, not return phone calls or emails, and not show that you have followed through on problems, you don't deserve the job. Or a raise. That is just rude. And I can tell you that is about all that I have experienced. If I pushed for a response, a response that I had every right to receive, I was labeled a pest.

My Supervisor has always gotten back to me.

It saves time in the long run.

If you don't get back to people some will just keep at it.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Fairfax Pest ()
Date: April 17, 2015 10:45AM

I guess I'm a pest. Certain questions they don't want to answer. School board seems to kick the question to a school administrator, who does as they please, which includes nothing.

I guess they hope we all have amnesia on election day.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: kjIlhgTff ()
Date: April 17, 2015 02:51PM

Linda Smyth has always gotten back to me. She was the one who went digging through the library trash dumpsters pulling out library books that people were throwing out when we never seem to have enough money in this county.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: And what happened? ()
Date: April 17, 2015 03:27PM

Yes, I remember, Linda Smyth found the books they were tossing. There was a bunch of ranging and raving. What changes were made? Why is library funding being cut so much?

I would have liked to have seen a couple of county employees fired over this.

She also voted against the raise, but Moon and Velkoff had other ideas. They need to go.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: lp ()
Date: April 17, 2015 09:16PM

Reed doesn't return phone calls or messages.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Yhk90$,|\]432(! ()
Date: April 17, 2015 09:56PM

lp Wrote:
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> Reed doesn't return phone calls or messages.


Well, she didn't vote for the raise.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: true that - BUT ()
Date: April 17, 2015 10:00PM

Yhk90$,|\]432(! Wrote:
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> lp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Reed doesn't return phone calls or messages.
>
>
> Well, she didn't vote for the raise.

She has moaned and groaned about wanting taxing authority. She needs to respond if she wants to be re-elected. Sorry.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Please help us all ()
Date: April 18, 2015 08:05AM

true that - BUT Wrote:
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> Yhk90$,|\]432(! Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > lp Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Reed doesn't return phone calls or messages.
> >
> >
> > Well, she didn't vote for the raise.
>
> She has moaned and groaned about wanting taxing
> authority. She needs to respond if she wants to be
> re-elected. Sorry.

You have got to be kidding me. If they ever got taxing authority, it would be all over with. They would walk straight into our bank accounts and take it all, because it is never enough.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: 3GKFM ()
Date: April 18, 2015 08:48AM


if FCPS teacher pay is $20,000

explain how the school system is asking for $1,000,000,000 (a billion) more than last year

explain how FCPS is the costliest part of Fx co va's $2 to $4 billion dollar debt (which by VA law must be repaid - as VA law does not allow counties do acrue debt)


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: Gbbut ()
Date: April 18, 2015 08:49AM

i think the point is. someone is posting the teachers get $20,000 salary which isn't even CLOSE to being true.

that someone: likely a fx co gov worker seeking to mis-inform the public

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: the painful truth ()
Date: April 18, 2015 11:48AM

Please help us all Wrote:
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> true that - BUT Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yhk90$,|\]432(! Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > lp Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Reed doesn't return phone calls or
> messages.
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, she didn't vote for the raise.
> >
> > She has moaned and groaned about wanting taxing
> > authority. She needs to respond if she wants to
> be
> > re-elected. Sorry.
>
> You have got to be kidding me. If they ever got
> taxing authority, it would be all over with. They
> would walk straight into our bank accounts and
> take it all, because it is never enough.

Reed and Ted Velkoff have pushed very hard for taxation authority. Money to waste on turf fields, consultants, fundraisers, new age gurus, conferences and band trips.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: HgfvTtgOjgde ()
Date: April 19, 2015 09:32AM

>Reed and Ted Velkoff have pushed very hard for taxation authority. Money to waste on turf fields, consultants, fundraisers, new age gurus, conferences and band trips.<

Optional Band trips are financed by student fees.
As for the rest, the jury is still out. I have yet to see a cost analysis on the turf as vs grass. It isn't like grass is free to maintain. They do seem to have a million ways to spend a million. And there is certainly an "expert" for everything that would love a big fat check from FCPS.

If you let the School Board tax us, it is all over with.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: truth about turf ()
Date: April 19, 2015 09:37AM

The Turf Task Force said turf fields would benefit all residents. Well this resident doesn't benefit from them.

In fact, if you run the numbers, the turf fields only benefit a minority of students (not all of them play turf field sports) as well as a minority of residents (not all of us are inn athletic clubs).

In plain English, waste of money. Then we have to look at the risk of cancer from the rubber pellets.

In plain English, a bad idea by a County government that has become too big for its own good.

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: NCT6D ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:53AM


for board members



and keep in mind they aren't disclosing everything

because teachers make well more than that, and also WHAT IS A BOARD MEMBER it is not a private school (no board of visitors required)

they are probably lying their asses off

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: jpmMM ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:54AM

Ilryong Moon (At Large), who spearheaded the salary increases, said the raises will encourage a more-diverse group of candidates

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i bet it will. fucking foreigners taking bribes

deport the mother fucker

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: dFcey ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:56AM

The School Board’s salary raises come after the supervisors voted 6-to-4 for their own salary increases, to $95,000 a year.

^^^^^


another lie. supervisors specifically say publicly on the web that $95k/yr salary is THEIR BASE PAY

and that other pay and benefits won't be disclosed to public even if they ask

they are flipping their middle finger at the federal rules and public interested in what they are making using taxes - a figure wich they themselves decided FOR THEMSELVES


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: p3Mk9 ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:58AM

Superintendent's Office
Deputy Superintendent

Student Activities and Athletic Programs
Hearings Office
Regions

Chief Academic Officer

Department of Instructional Services
Department of Special Services
Testing / Assessment

Chief Operating Officer

Department of Human Resources
Department of Facilities and Transportation Services
Department of Financial Services
Department of Information Technology

Chief of Staff

Communication and Community Relations
Program Evaluation
Government Relations
TJHSST Admissions

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: FTuJv ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:58AM


^^^ none of the mother fuckers above are "board members"


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: JpjK4 ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:59AM

Contact

Karen Garza, Ph.D.
Superintendent
SuperintendentGarza@fcps.edu

Steven Lockard, Ph.D
Deputy Superintendent
Steven.Lockard@fcps.edu

Kim P. Dockery, Ed.D.
Chief Academic Officer
Kim.Dockery@fcps.edu

Marty K. Smith
Chief of Staff
Marty.Smith@fcps.edu

Susan Quinn
Chief Operating Officer
Susan.Quinn@fcps.edu

Christine Donohue
Director of Operations
Christine.Donohue@fcps.edu

John Foster
Division Counsel
John.Foster@fcps.edu


FCPS Education Foundation
foundation@fcps.edu

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: X4yEp ()
Date: April 19, 2015 11:59AM

FCPS Education Foundation
foundation@fcps.edu


and a "foundation" no one has heard of


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: mPGbT ()
Date: April 19, 2015 12:01PM

Webpage Curator

Nancy Moy
nhmoy@fcps.edu

^^ did not make it, on spent money having some political friend get money to make it

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: eb4pT ()
Date: April 19, 2015 12:01PM

Volunteer Learning Program

Matches adult volunteer tutors with adult learners who need to improve their reading, writing or math skills to obtain a high school diploma or GED, get a better job, or pursue postsecondary education or training. More

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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: vbhU7 ()
Date: April 19, 2015 12:02PM


the mother fuckers getting 5x SALARY what their predecessors got for a SEASONAL work

want you do do it for free


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Re: FCPS School Board Salary Increased to $32,000
Posted by: 4uPXG ()
Date: April 19, 2015 12:08PM

Kathy Smith to Challenge Brian Shoeneman for Sully District Supervisor

"board member" (noting their duty overlap and no real definition of job)

Sully - Kathy Smith

----------------------
so rip the taxpayer then use the money to get higher up in the pyramid

not a dedicated school master. a proffesional pyramid game player who has no plans to stay with the schools.

SURELY - an elementary school teacher should get enough money from government to become a county Lord and get a mc'mansion - soley on government pay, mrs smith

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