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Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: educ8tor ()
Date: April 11, 2015 07:10AM

The BOS is playing a dangerous game with teacher salaries. The county needs us a hell of a lot more then we need them.

Spend more on education now or spend much more on prisons later.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/fairfax-county-teachers-protest-budget-cuts-fight-for-promised-raises-113029.html

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: BrianSchoeneman ()
Date: April 11, 2015 07:30AM

The BOS doesn't set teacher salaries, or create the FCPS budget. The School Board does that. If you're concerned with how the School Board is budgeting the money provided in the transfer, you should ask them to make teacher compensation a priority.

Vilifying the BOS because they provided a schools transfer that represents a 3.43% increase over last year doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Taxpayers are fed up!
Posted by: FCPS Parent ()
Date: April 11, 2015 07:34AM

Dear Educator,
You most likely subscribe to the liberal tenets of your President. Therefore, your demand for more money will be heard AFTER your elected democrats have spent it on ridiculous programs. Don't forget about all those poor folks that don't wan't to work, too. Your request will be prioritized far down the list of line items.

As usual, you and your educator pals can threaten parents by claiming that kids will end up in jail if you don't get paid. We see through your self serving threats. Join the rest of your fellow citizens and feel the democratic pinch. We're tire of your B.S and the average education you provide regular kids.

Dangerous game, my ass.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: FCPS Grandpa ()
Date: April 11, 2015 08:00AM

educ8tor Wrote:
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> The BOS is playing a dangerous game with teacher
> salaries. The county needs us a hell of a lot more
> then we need them.
>
> Spend more on education now or spend much more on
> prisons later.
>
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/fairfax-count
> y-teachers-protest-budget-cuts-fight-for-promised-
> raises-113029.html

You can teach in DC or PG County. Better yet, teach in prison. You're paying
the price for being an Obamabot. Stupid!!!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Realistor ()
Date: April 11, 2015 08:15AM

Get a real job if you don't like your endless vacation time, holidays, and snow days.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: TheGreenThumb ()
Date: April 11, 2015 08:43AM

Starting salary for a full year (260 day) FCPS teacher is $55,432.

Average starting salary for recent graduates of UVA and VT is $51K. $55,432 is also higher than the average starting salaries for grads of Harvard, Yale, Brown and Georgetown. It looks like FCPS is already well-positioned to 'green' their workforce...but certainly keep asking for more money!

http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2014/full-list-of-schools

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: PE teacher ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:27AM

Try 45,839 Green thumb dumbass.


Fuck it! The county does not give a shit about quality education. I am starting at a private school next year with more money and better benefits.

The kids are the big losers here.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: ConcernedVoter15 ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:35AM

If you think the salaries are a startling issue, read this article about School Board Member Dan Storck being a fervent anti-vaxxer.


http://www.bluevirginia.us/diary/13147/fairfax-county-school-board-member-cofounder-of-quack-antivaxxer-group

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: TheGreenThumb ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:35AM

http://www.fcps.edu/hr/salary/pdf/fy15/FY15Nov260dayTeacher.pdf

Sure looks like $55,432. It's too bad the county is losing you - you have such a winning personality!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: scratching head ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:42AM

TheGreenThumb Wrote:
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> http://www.fcps.edu/hr/salary/pdf/fy15/FY15Nov260d
> ayTeacher.pdf
>
> Sure looks like $55,432. It's too bad the county
> is losing you - you have such a winning
> personality!


Never Never post a link to a PDF. Now that troll has your IP address. It's embedded in the link.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Gerry ConMan ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:42AM

We do not have a problem with illegal immigration in Fairfax County.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: 194 day ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:49AM

PE teacher Wrote:
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> Try 45,839 Green thumb dumbass.
>
>
> Fuck it! The county does not give a shit about
> quality education. I am starting at a private
> school next year with more money and better
> benefits.
>
> The kids are the big losers here.


PE teacher, that is 194 day starting salary. 99% of county teachers are 194 day employees. My husband is a electrician for the county schools and he makes more than the vast majority of the teachers. It pisses some teachers off that the maintenance staff get paid more than they do.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Paul D. ()
Date: April 11, 2015 09:57AM

194 day Wrote:
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> PE teacher Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Try 45,839 Green thumb dumbass.
> >
> >
> > Fuck it! The county does not give a shit about
> > quality education. I am starting at a private
> > school next year with more money and better
> > benefits.
> >
> > The kids are the big losers here.
>
>
> PE teacher, that is 194 day starting salary. 99%
> of county teachers are 194 day employees. My
> husband is a electrician for the county schools
> and he makes more than the vast majority of the
> teachers. It pisses some teachers off that the
> maintenance staff get paid more than they do.

I work for an agency (Fed) that is top heavy with attorney's and economists
who are pissed because the plumber makes more than they do. Solution:
become a plumber and quit bitching.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Bill Samps1 ()
Date: April 11, 2015 10:34AM

Teachers benefits and pensions are draining state budgets. Constant complainers are teachers always wanting more and more.
As it is teachers benefits are so much better than the average worker and yet they still complain. Personal property taxes are high enough as it is in FFCounty.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: John Q. ()
Date: April 11, 2015 10:40AM

Bill Samps1 Wrote:
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> Teachers benefits and pensions are draining state
> budgets. Constant complainers are teachers always
> wanting more and more.
> As it is teachers benefits are so much better than
> the average worker and yet they still complain.
> Personal property taxes are high enough as it is
> in FFCounty.

Why is it I never hear teachers publicly complaining about the influx of new illegal immigrant kids? They know they're putting a drain on the system and
keeping taxes forever increasing but not a word.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 11, 2015 11:21AM

Solution =

A. Teacher = teach
B. Coach = coach
C. A or B, not Both
D. All of above

Answer = C

Coach cannot teach 7th Grade Honors Science = No SOL on purpose.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Ubdwx ()
Date: April 11, 2015 02:19PM


they aren't demanding more

they have advertised in WTOP they decide their own pay and have decided they will DOUBLE THEIR PAY

a double pay increase in gov pay is UNHEARD OF unless it's criminal

usually "raise failed to meet cost of living" is the complaint

but that complaint was from the 1980's. today FCPS and fx co gov are making many times minimum wage



well. we'll see if they actually do it. until then.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Vhnpv ()
Date: April 11, 2015 02:22PM

government workers should live in the society (prosperity: or poverty) they create

they should be paid about minimum wage , and get not much benefit other than job security

doing otherwise is dangerous - and invites a feud - a mob of assholes deciding their own pay and stalking the community

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: County teacher 2 ()
Date: April 12, 2015 07:21AM

FCPS peaked about 15 or 16 years ago and is now on the decline. I retire soon so I am going to stay. I see more and more young teachers come here to get a couple years experience and then move on. I hate to say it but it just sucks to try and teach so many kids that do not fully understand the English language. I am very thankful that my grandchildren go to school in Fauquier county.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Publi School sucks ()
Date: April 12, 2015 08:37AM

You teachers need to shut the fuck up. You ONLY work part time and get full time pay, and good pay at that. For what? Babysitting. Public school is a fucking joke. Homeschool kids learn more in 2 hours a day than what you pretend teachers do in 6 hours. Your pay needs to be cut! An electrician should make more. THEY WORK ALL YEAR! You get pay checks when you don't work. Fucking unions can shove it up their assholes.

Please, leave the school system. Where are you going to go dumbass? You're supposed to be teachers. You're not doing it for the money or the massive amount of time off. You're doing it because you love to teach, right? No? Well fuck you! Then get another job and STFU!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: keep 1 thing in mind ()
Date: April 12, 2015 08:48AM

It is easy to forget that education costs nothing. Education pays and pays and pays. Our teachers do deserve more money.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: weevc ()
Date: April 12, 2015 09:18AM

If I were in charge of schools-

Make all incoming "immigrants" (regardless of where they came from around the world!!!) take a simple test BEFORE they can enroll in schools.

K-3, sure come to elementary school and learn these concepts along with everyone else. THe work is simple enough that basic english can be learned with a simple ESL class along side it.

Say, 8 years old and up? Just got here?

Can't read/understand this 4th grade level text? Off to English CAMP (yes I'd create an actual ESL CAMP seperate from the public schools where the ONLY goal is to learn english, fast!) until you can read/write/speak on your appropiate grade level. If it takes you from 8-15 years old to learn english, then that's on YOU! Too bad you have to start middle school now (a special middle school/high school will be set up for those learning who are older than traditional students- but only one in the county and only if you pass the test!)

See how fast they learn english to get back to the normal school with the other kids who CAN participate and graduate on time!

Those that were born here should get first dibs on an on-time education! It seems the immigrants just get "passed through" due to their AGE- this would SOLVE that problem! And ONLY let them participate until they are 24- if they haven't graduated High school LEGIT, they FAIL and need to pass the GED and thats IT!!!

This keeps them OUT of the class with us US-born people!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: weevc ()
Date: April 12, 2015 09:20AM

And NO MORE claiming "I don't know english" as a DISABILITY!!! It is a simple problem that can be taught by LEARNING!!!

If i went to China right now and said "I don't know chinese" they would laugh at me and send me away! We should do the SAME!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Cool Teacher ()
Date: April 12, 2015 09:30AM

weevc Wrote:
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> And NO MORE claiming "I don't know english" as a
> DISABILITY!!! It is a simple problem that can be
> taught by LEARNING!!!
>
> If i went to China right now and said "I don't
> know chinese" they would laugh at me and send me
> away! We should do the SAME!


You have it all wrong. Americans are FUCKING LAZY. With our educational system in place as it is there is NO FUCKING REASON why we all should not be able to speak three or four different languages by the 6th grade. The schools in Europe are doing this easily. While everyone should learn English our official language should be Spanish.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: not too bad per hour ()
Date: April 12, 2015 11:57AM

Realistor Wrote:
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> Get a real job if you don't like your endless
> vacation time, holidays, and snow days.


3 out of 5 teachers agree, if it weren't for the summers off, they would find another job. Not bad money for 9 months of work, lets not kid ourselves.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: exffx ()
Date: April 12, 2015 12:31PM

Glad I don't have to scare parents to get a pay raise.

When I wanted more money and the company said, "No"....I found another job.

When I thought my bosses were incompetent...I started my own business.

And I work snow days and holidays too.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Ralph1 ()
Date: April 12, 2015 01:01PM

Re: weevc.

I agree with you, get the illegals, foreigners, outta here. Put them on a Ferry to somewhere and let it sink. Just sick of looking at them all over Fairfax County and yes, they are draining our resources. Go to the public library or the DMV and you will see how bad it has become. Get these non-Caucasians out of here.

And so it goes.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Tom Jefferson ()
Date: April 12, 2015 01:19PM

weevc Wrote:
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> If I were in charge of schools-
>
> Make all incoming "immigrants" (regardless of
> where they came from around the world!!!) take a
> simple test BEFORE they can enroll in schools.
>
> K-3, sure come to elementary school and learn
> these concepts along with everyone else. THe work
> is simple enough that basic english can be learned
> with a simple ESL class along side it.
>
> Say, 8 years old and up? Just got here?
>
> Can't read/understand this 4th grade level text?
> Off to English CAMP (yes I'd create an actual ESL
> CAMP seperate from the public schools where the
> ONLY goal is to learn english, fast!) until you
> can read/write/speak on your appropiate grade
> level. If it takes you from 8-15 years old to
> learn english, then that's on YOU! Too bad you
> have to start middle school now (a special middle
> school/high school will be set up for those
> learning who are older than traditional students-
> but only one in the county and only if you pass
> the test!)
>
> See how fast they learn english to get back to the
> normal school with the other kids who CAN
> participate and graduate on time!
>
> Those that were born here should get first dibs on
> an on-time education! It seems the immigrants just
> get "passed through" due to their AGE- this would
> SOLVE that problem! And ONLY let them participate
> until they are 24- if they haven't graduated High
> school LEGIT, they FAIL and need to pass the GED
> and thats IT!!!
>
> This keeps them OUT of the class with us US-born
> people!


Oh sorry man, that is not the way it works in this country. Sounds like you hate America. Maybe you should move elsewhere or go start your own country somewhere.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: urine idiot ()
Date: April 12, 2015 01:27PM

keep 1 thing in mind Wrote:
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> It is easy to forget that education costs nothing.
> Education pays and pays and pays. Our teachers do
> deserve more money.


Where is this free education? Schools cost tens of millions to build. Teacher and administrative salaries are over inflated, free breakfast and lunches for illegals that libs gave amnesty to and democrat voters that are too lazy to get a job. This is all free to you?

You're a typical dumbass libturd.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 13, 2015 07:22AM

Principle watches = Good Class
No Principle watches = Teacher Confused

Last Week of Quarter = Student Know Nothing
Teacher = No Give Back All Work

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: fcps official ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:06AM

I have to agree with some of the teacher complaints. Seriously, we have to put up with your "misplaced cumshots" for the day. Most of them are ill-mannered because you parents do not raise your "misplaced cumshots" correctly.

BTW, hope all you stay-at-home moms enjoy your extra-marital sexless summer when your "misplaced cumshots" are at home.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: reap what you sow ()
Date: April 13, 2015 10:29AM

If FCPS didn't waste so much money they could give the teachers raises. But, FCPS would rather have travel, fancy offices, consulting contracts. The teachers get screwed. Maybe after all of the good teachers leave, FCPS will knock off the wasteful spending and pay the teachers more.

"Give us more money" is not going to work. Sorry FCPS, you fail.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Gruntled ()
Date: April 13, 2015 10:57AM

When does the new school start time kick in? Didn't that cost a bunch of extra money that could have gone to teacher salaries, or did they finally work out a way that the new bus and driver requirements were unnecessary/free?

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 13, 2015 12:26PM

^^^ Post from fcpsofficial who = NO Official

Statemnt you make not correct.

Observer in Classroom = Teacher has Control
Observer walks Out and Closes Door = Students Crazy

7th Grade Honors = Above True
Other Teachers = Above not True

Why =

A. Other teachers engage students
B. Students enjoy other teachers
C. Teachers earned respect

Good Teacher = Relate to Students
Bad Teacher = Relate to No One

Good Teacher = Give Homework, Students do and learn
Bad Teacher = Give Homework, Teacher loses and Wasted times

Teacher Money Only = Bad Teacher
Teacher Care about Students = Good Teacher

Solution = Not Hire Bad Teachers
Solution = Retest all students, see if earned grade

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: teachas67 ()
Date: April 13, 2015 03:35PM

Teachers are fed up because people are actually making them work?!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 13, 2015 03:54PM

^^^ teachas67 not correct.

Not Everyone = Know How to Teach Kids

Answer = Students Grade Teachers

A. Learned Something = 50 - 100 Weigh 70%
B. Teacher Cared = 50 - 100 Weigh 15%
C. Homework Useful = 50 - 100 Weigh 15%
D. Teacher Extra Help = Extra Credit on this Quiz
E. Teacher Teach Wrong for Test = 5 points off every one

Example =

A. 50
B. 50
C. 50
D. 0
E. 5 * 10

SHOW WORK =

50% - 50 = 0

FINAL ANSWER = 0

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: AAAA TEACHER ! ()
Date: April 13, 2015 07:50PM

Without teachers we are all just a bunch of apes.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Taxpayer in Chief ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:00PM

You teachers are overpaid as it is. Simple as that.

We need a movement to lower the current salaries of all teachers by 1% for Fiscal Year 2015. This will help the budget.

More importantly, it will help the children. And if you don't want to help the children, then you are an idiot.

So, let's help the children, and lower salaries by 1% for 2015!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: wh4U4 ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:01PM

I, too, am fed up: with Teachers. So, if you are fed up, then quit. There's a line thousands of people long, ready to fill your insipid shoes.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: ny4uF ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:02PM

And one last thing on my rant: Any teacher talking Union shit should be fired on the spot, for contributing to the downfall of America.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: imbiker ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:11PM

Fairfax and FCPS are now a banana republic!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: teachers caused this ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:13PM

"Fairfax and FCPS are now a banana republic!"


And this is the fault of the teachers. Most surely.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Tax payer1 ()
Date: April 13, 2015 08:28PM

YOU DON'T NEED A PAY RAISE. IF U DON'T LIKE IT QUIT YOUR JOB

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Teacher longtime ()
Date: April 14, 2015 04:48AM

To quote a colleague of mine from the BOS public hearing last week " You desperately need us but we do not need you." I start in Arlington County this fall and the decline of FCPS will continue.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 14, 2015 07:50AM

^^^ Teacher longtime do not let the door hit your friends on the way out.

You = Longtime Teacher
Longtime Teacher = Why do they not fix Science Teacher who Teach Material Wrong?
Longtime Teacher = Fix teacher, show teach correct

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: they dug their own hole ()
Date: April 14, 2015 10:04AM

The schools have been wasteful and their leaders arrogant. Public opinion turned against them. Now the schools have to deal with the results.

Now that the board has voted itself a raise, watch how they all get voted out of office!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: To RAMSConquer ()
Date: April 14, 2015 02:21PM

Would you shut the fuck up about the science teacher that you obviously have an axe to grind with? I am guessing you are some Asian who cannot bully his kid's way into an A.Try this equation:
Parent = barely literate dumbass with no handle on logic
Child= barely literate dumbass with no handle on logic

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: manfredmann ()
Date: April 15, 2015 01:39AM

McDonalds is always hiring. I'm sure 85% of the disaffected teachers could learn to ask if we want fries with that.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: just not right ()
Date: April 15, 2015 04:48AM

The thing that pisses me off the most was mentioned earlier in this thread. The Maintenance guys in the schools get paid more than most of the teachers! The plumbers and the freaks that go up on the roof and work on the hvac? That is wrong on so many levels!!!!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Free Country ()
Date: April 15, 2015 08:10AM

Stupid moronic lib whiners! No one is forced to stay at any job in America. You're always free to quit and go to that perfect job that pays you way more. So STFU and either do your job. find a better one, or start your own business!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: just ask one ()
Date: April 15, 2015 08:16AM

just not right Wrote:
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> The thing that pisses me off the most was
> mentioned earlier in this thread. The Maintenance
> guys in the schools get paid more than most of the
> teachers! The plumbers and the freaks that go up
> on the roof and work on the hvac? That is wrong on
> so many levels!!!!


Really, they have to work 12 months a year. If you told the teachers they were going to work 12 months a year and get a 25 percent pay raise, many would leave.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Wake the Fuck Up Parents ()
Date: April 15, 2015 09:08AM

Too many of you parents are to lazy to support your schools and your teachers by simply having your kids do their homework and helping them understand what they were taught in school that day. You don't take a serious approach to school so why should your kids? The vast majority of parents are either to busy at work or just don't care enough about their kids education. All you want is free daycare. Your kids come to school unprepared, under-fed and with out the basic necessities needed to be prepared to learn. That the parents don't prepare their kids to learn and expect the system to make them magically literate then complain that the system isn't doing enough for them is the down fall of FCPS. Hell to watch you little thugs all day and insure they don't kill each other or burn the building down teachers ought to be paid twice what they are getting. Learning starts at home as does work ethic and values. You parents are fucking retards! Schools are community based structures and centers of learning for the little ones, our most precious resource. Do your part parents before asking teachers to do more with less.

And for all you people bitching about teachers, cops and fire fighters getting a raise keep in mind that municipla salleries have been fronzen for the past 8 fucking years and they all kept on doing their jobs during that time. So fuck you!!!!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: English Teacher? ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:15AM

educ8tor Wrote:
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> The BOS is playing a dangerous game with teacher
> salaries. The county needs us a hell of a lot more
> then we need them.
>
> Spend more on education now or spend much more on
> prisons later.
>
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/fairfax-count
> y-teachers-protest-budget-cuts-fight-for-promised-
> raises-113029.html


The correct word to use is "than" not "then". This may come in useful when instructing your students.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Gruntled ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:49AM

English Teacher? Wrote:
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> educ8tor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The BOS is playing a dangerous game with
> teacher
> > salaries. The county needs us a hell of a lot
> more
> > then we need them.
> >
> > Spend more on education now or spend much more
> on
> > prisons later.
> >
> >
> http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/fairfax-count
>
> >
> y-teachers-protest-budget-cuts-fight-for-promised-
>
> > raises-113029.html
>
>
> The correct word to use is "than" not "then".
> This may come in useful when instructing your
> students.

Years ago, a reporter asked a striking teacher what subject they taught. The teacher answered "I teaches English."

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: FCPS teacher, ready for hilary ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:53AM

I need summers off to relax and get stoned everyday. I take a trip to Seattle and make music with my stoner friends.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: some should be fired ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:56AM

Any teacher who did not raise hell about having the unqualified Boosterthon people conduct "character lessons" in their classroom is a disgrace to education and should be fired.

FCPS should just turn their operations over to Boosterthon. The result will be kids who know how to do door to door sales, work in call centers, and rush fraternities and sororities.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: RAMsConquer ()
Date: April 15, 2015 12:15PM

Language from some of your mouths = Need soap to wash mouth out

Need soap to wash mouth out = No respect

Any Honors teacher not only 7th Grade Science Honors who gets kickedout of classroom from another teacher so she can teach his class should not be back in classroom with explanation to students and parents. How can teacher learn if not there to hear right ways to teach?

Good news is fcps.edu has MS Biology Teacher position open. Do not know if same position. Hope is coach will coach fulltime. Good coach!

Boosterthon person = TROLLER

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: star chamber ()
Date: April 15, 2015 12:30PM

Anyone who supports Boosterthon is an enemy of the state and will be dealt with as such.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Warbucks Street ()
Date: April 15, 2015 12:35PM

FCPS teacher, ready for hilary Wrote:
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> I need summers off to relax and get stoned
> everyday. I take a trip to Seattle and make music
> with my stoner friends.


Way to rationalize a poor life-decision.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Question... ()
Date: April 15, 2015 02:46PM

RAMsConquer Wrote:
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> Language from some of your mouths = Need soap to
> wash mouth out
>
> Need soap to wash mouth out = No respect
>
> Any Honors teacher not only 7th Grade Science
> Honors who gets kickedout of classroom from
> another teacher so she can teach his class should
> not be back in classroom with explanation to
> students and parents. How can teacher learn if
> not there to hear right ways to teach?
>
> Good news is fcps.edu has MS Biology Teacher
> position open. Do not know if same position. Hope
> is coach will coach fulltime. Good coach!
>
> Boosterthon person = TROLLER

You wouldn't happen to be related to svennestle, would you?

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Alexander Smith ()
Date: April 15, 2015 03:59PM

TheGreenThumb Wrote:
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> Starting salary for a full year (260 day) FCPS
> teacher is $55,432.
>
> Average starting salary for recent graduates of
> UVA and VT is $51K. $55,432 is also higher than
> the average starting salaries for grads of
> Harvard, Yale, Brown and Georgetown. It looks like
> FCPS is already well-positioned to 'green' their
> workforce...but certainly keep asking for more
> money!
>
> http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2014
> /full-list-of-schools


With the ammount of vacations, sick days, snow days, etc that's $55,432 too much to be paying these low-life, unqualified teachers.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Correction ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:39PM

AAAA TEACHER ! Wrote:
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> Without teachers we are all just a bunch of apes.

without *education*.....

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: preventive maintenance ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:43PM

just not right Wrote:
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> The thing that pisses me off the most was
> mentioned earlier in this thread. The Maintenance
> guys in the schools get paid more than most of the
> teachers! The plumbers and the freaks that go up
> on the roof and work on the hvac? That is wrong on
> so many levels!!!!


The thing is, you can't stop maintaining the building in May and expect it to take care of itself till the middle of June....

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Parent longtime ()
Date: April 15, 2015 10:49PM

Teacher longtime Wrote:
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> To quote a colleague of mine from the BOS public
> hearing last week " You desperately need us but we
> do not need you." I start in Arlington County this
> fall and the decline of FCPS will continue.

same thing can be said for parents - putting my kids in private school in the fall. I'm embarrassed it took me until middle school to realize how horrible FCPS is. Private schools are getting harder and harder to get into - the flight from FCPS is accelerating.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: 6MKyH ()
Date: April 15, 2015 11:34PM

they dug their own hole Wrote:
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>
> Now that the board has voted itself a raise, watch
> how they all get voted out of office!


Who's going to vote them out dummy? All the teachers that don't live in the county lol.

No one cares about whiny complaining teachers that pray for snow days, bitch about having to take work home, claim they are some sort of super hero educator and get the entire summer off. Get over yourself, your job is easy and the voting public is sick of your bitching.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: underpaid teacher ()
Date: April 16, 2015 05:04AM

The county can not make up their mind about what they want from staff. There are a lot of changes each year, often that contradict each other as we strive to "close the gap". It is becoming harder and harder to do the work that will help the students in the face of changing agendas. I fear the decline of FCPS will continue a it makes the transition to a urban school system.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: they lost the luster a while ago ()
Date: April 16, 2015 08:48AM

underpaid teacher Wrote:
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> The county can not make up their mind about what
> they want from staff. There are a lot of changes
> each year, often that contradict each other as we
> strive to "close the gap". It is becoming harder
> and harder to do the work that will help the
> students in the face of changing agendas. I fear
> the decline of FCPS will continue a it makes the
> transition to a urban school system.


The transition to an urban school system you speak has occurred ,overcrowded classes, too much emphasis on those who chose not to learn, and expensive programs for non-English speakers. The average student trying to do well and get to college is no longer a priority. The expenditures per student are very disproportionate.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: NeGk6 ()
Date: April 16, 2015 03:22PM

they lost the luster a while ago Wrote:
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>
>
> The transition to an urban school system you speak
> has occurred ,overcrowded classes, too much
> emphasis on those who chose not to learn, and
> expensive programs for non-English speakers.

Very insightful - the transition to urban school definitely captures what has happened to FCPS. I'd add to your list that is has self-interested set of incumbent staff and teachers that view the schools as a jobs and benefits program.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: what's the problem? ()
Date: April 16, 2015 03:51PM

What are the teachers fed up with? They aren't doing a good job. They're lucky they all haven't been fired for incompetence.

I know, a lot of the incompetence is higher up. So, I say, we fire the school board and all Gatehouse administrators. You have to start somewhere.

I don't miss Jack Dale and I won't miss Karen Garza.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: WJyPx ()
Date: April 16, 2015 05:55PM


i've baby sat kids who threw heave metal scissors at me unexpectedly for no reason

and done worse than that. and took the pay didn't mention it to the parents hardly. and would have babysat there again for the money

sick of priss county workers living in mc'masions saying their are worth it all

they know they are all felons


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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Cowan tee ()
Date: April 17, 2015 06:57AM

what's the problem? Wrote:
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> What are the teachers fed up with? They aren't
> doing a good job. They're lucky they all haven't
> been fired for incompetence.
>
> I know, a lot of the incompetence is higher up.
> So, I say, we fire the school board and all
> Gatehouse administrators. You have to start
> somewhere.
>
> I don't miss Jack Dale and I won't miss Karen
> Garza.


Oh really? Fairfax county residents should be thankfull that they have one of the top 20 school systems in this country. The teachers do deserve more money because their performance has been outstanding.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: hvac jack ()
Date: April 17, 2015 01:35PM

just not right Wrote:
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> The thing that pisses me off the most was
> mentioned earlier in this thread. The Maintenance
> guys in the schools get paid more than most of the
> teachers! The plumbers and the freaks that go up
> on the roof and work on the hvac? That is wrong on
> so many levels!!!!


The "Freaks" that go up on the roof are licensed technical engineers who make 80 to 100k a year and earn every bit of it by saving the county money on repairs and reducing energy use. They work their asses off in extreme heat and cold while teachers sit and bitch if the temperature in their classroom is not exactly to their liking.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Britt McHenry's Wonderful Ass ()
Date: April 17, 2015 02:04PM

Cowan tee Wrote:
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> Oh really? Fairfax county residents should be
> thankfull that they have one of the top 20 school
> systems in this country. The teachers do deserve
> more money because their performance has been
> outstanding.


The only reason that FCPS is in the top 50 is all the asians who decided to move here (usually relocating from Montgomery County, MD after ruining that area with their liberal, democrat bullshit). Those whites who can afford to put their kids in private schools are now doing so, even at McLean. Langley remains the sole public school that has managed to keep the spics and niggers out. They have an arab problem, but at least the arabs don't drag the school down very much academically.

Prince William forced their spics to move to Fairfax to go to school. The spics still live in PWC but they send their kids to FCPS by using borrowed utility bills to establish residency.

Stupid liberal Fairfax dumbasses. You're turning your fucking school system into an inner-city ghetto. Just hope those dinks keep the ratings high until I retire and move the hell out of this shithole in 10 years.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: pine log ()
Date: April 17, 2015 02:43PM

Britt McHenry's Wonderful Ass Wrote:
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> Cowan tee Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Oh really? Fairfax county residents should be
> > thankfull that they have one of the top 20
> school
> > systems in this country. The teachers do
> deserve
> > more money because their performance has been
> > outstanding.
>
>
> The only reason that FCPS is in the top 50 is all
> the asians who decided to move here (usually
> relocating from Montgomery County, MD after
> ruining that area with their liberal, democrat
> bullshit). Those whites who can afford to put
> their kids in private schools are now doing so,
> even at McLean. Langley remains the sole public
> school that has managed to keep the spics and
> niggers out. They have an arab problem, but at
> least the arabs don't drag the school down very
> much academically.
>
> Prince William forced their spics to move to
> Fairfax to go to school. The spics still live in
> PWC but they send their kids to FCPS by using
> borrowed utility bills to establish residency.
>
> Stupid liberal Fairfax dumbasses. You're turning
> your fucking school system into an inner-city
> ghetto. Just hope those dinks keep the ratings
> high until I retire and move the hell out of this
> shithole in 10 years.


Thankfully people like you are dying off every day.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: The Truth Hurts ()
Date: April 17, 2015 04:36PM

Britt McHenry's Wonderful Ass Wrote:
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> The only reason that FCPS is in the top 50 is all
> the asians who decided to move here (usually
> relocating from Montgomery County, MD after
> ruining that area with their liberal, democrat
> bullshit). Those whites who can afford to put
> their kids in private schools are now doing so,
> even at McLean. Langley remains the sole public
> school that has managed to keep the spics and
> niggers out. They have an arab problem, but at
> least the arabs don't drag the school down very
> much academically.
>
> Prince William forced their spics to move to
> Fairfax to go to school. The spics still live in
> PWC but they send their kids to FCPS by using
> borrowed utility bills to establish residency.
>
> Stupid liberal Fairfax dumbasses. You're turning
> your fucking school system into an inner-city
> ghetto. Just hope those dinks keep the ratings
> high until I retire and move the hell out of this
> shithole in 10 years.


This pretty much sums it up. Mexicans have overrun Fairfax schools. Thankfully, my wife's parents have lots of money and pay for private school for my kids. It's either that or move to the Langley district and who the heck can afford that?!?

Our schools have been going downhill for over 10 years but have really started to go over the cliff in the past 5. Unless you are an ESL student, it's just babysitting while they work on getting the Mexicans to learn to read and basic arithmetic, even in high school. Other moms that I talk to are sooooooo envious that we can send out kids to a good private school ($18K/child/year). The perks of being able to do this for my kids is a gift that just keeps on giving.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: lo trhhg ()
Date: April 17, 2015 09:04PM

The Truth Hurts Wrote:
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> Britt McHenry's Wonderful Ass Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > The only reason that FCPS is in the top 50 is
> all
> > the asians who decided to move here (usually
> > relocating from Montgomery County, MD after
> > ruining that area with their liberal, democrat
> > bullshit). Those whites who can afford to put
> > their kids in private schools are now doing so,
> > even at McLean. Langley remains the sole
> public
> > school that has managed to keep the spics and
> > niggers out. They have an arab problem, but at
> > least the arabs don't drag the school down very
> > much academically.
> >
> > Prince William forced their spics to move to
> > Fairfax to go to school. The spics still live
> in
> > PWC but they send their kids to FCPS by using
> > borrowed utility bills to establish residency.
> >
> > Stupid liberal Fairfax dumbasses. You're
> turning
> > your fucking school system into an inner-city
> > ghetto. Just hope those dinks keep the ratings
> > high until I retire and move the hell out of
> this
> > shithole in 10 years.
>
>
> This pretty much sums it up. Mexicans have
> overrun Fairfax schools. Thankfully, my wife's
> parents have lots of money and pay for private
> school for my kids. It's either that or move to
> the Langley district and who the heck can afford
> that?!?
>
> Our schools have been going downhill for over 10
> years but have really started to go over the cliff
> in the past 5. Unless you are an ESL student,
> it's just babysitting while they work on getting
> the Mexicans to learn to read and basic
> arithmetic, even in high school. Other moms that
> I talk to are sooooooo envious that we can send
> out kids to a good private school
> ($18K/child/year). The perks of being able to do
> this for my kids is a gift that just keeps on
> giving.


This is our land now. You accept our ways or move away.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: yankee go home ()
Date: April 18, 2015 08:19AM

Why do white people even stay in Fairfax?
The white people smell so bad and they think they can tell other people how to live. The schools are just fine for us. White people are disgusting and need to move to a white county.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Taking It To The Streets ()
Date: April 18, 2015 08:59AM

yankee go home Wrote:
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> Why do white people even stay in Fairfax?
> The white people smell so bad and they think they
> can tell other people how to live. The schools are
> just fine for us. White people are disgusting and
> need to move to a white county.


Most whites are waiting till they can retire and move. Fairfax will be Detroit in 25 years. My neighborhood has gone from almost all white to about 50% white in 12 years. Most of the whites that remain are either very old, in love with their lawn that they've been cultivating since before Moses and too entrenched to move or 45 - 50 years old and waiting until they can retire to move. The elementary aged kids are, for the most part, all non-white (Asians, Middle Eastern and a few Hispanics who have money). High school kids are mostly white still, but that will change in about 5 years.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: up town funky walk ()
Date: April 19, 2015 06:36AM

Older white people are very hateful and they do smell very bad. The fat white guys often carry guns because they are huge cowards.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: teachaaa ()
Date: April 20, 2015 01:12AM

Two words for all you angry parents: Anger Manage Ment!

Best teacha eva!
Holla!

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: teacherinffax ()
Date: April 20, 2015 02:16AM

For the parents who whine every year about the fact that we get out summers off and paid vacations, kiss my a$$. If you don't like the benefits at your job, then get another job. We don't need to work summers in order to get our job done and it's going to stay like that for a very, very, very long time. Your endless rants about time off and "babysitting" are cliche and show how behind the times you are. Now if you don't mind, I need to get back to preparing for work or perhaps I'll take the day off tomorrow.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: GFer ()
Date: April 20, 2015 06:58AM

The Truth Hurts Wrote:
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> Thankfully, my wife's
> parents have lots of money and pay for private
> school for my kids. It's either that or move to
> the Langley district and who the heck can afford
> that?!?


I think your perception of the Langley pyramid is outdated. There's lots of sub $1M homes in Great Falls still, and the savages are flooding in. They bring 3 generations with them so Grandma and Grandpa can collect social security (never having paid into it) and help with the mortgage.

Property values in Great Falls are flat and have been for a long time. But anything under $1M sells in days. Most folks in the $2M+ homes send their kids to private school.

Langley HS is 68% white, but all of the feeder ES's are significantly below that. The Langley pyramid is late to the change versus the rest of FF, but it's going the same way as the rest of the county. There's a line out of the door at any private school that's remotely close to Great Falls.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: PE teacher ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:06AM

teacherinffax Wrote:
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> For the parents who whine every year about the
> fact that we get out summers off and paid
> vacations, kiss my a$$. If you don't like the
> benefits at your job, then get another job. We
> don't need to work summers in order to get our job
> done and it's going to stay like that for a very,
> very, very long time. Your endless rants about
> time off and "babysitting" are cliche and show how
> behind the times you are. Now if you don't mind, I
> need to get back to preparing for work or perhaps
> I'll take the day off tomorrow.


Exactly! I am sick of these White, conservative parents. They all need an ass beating.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: uywvM ()
Date: May 29, 2015 08:39AM

teacherinffax Wrote:
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> For the parents who whine every year about the
> fact that we get out summers off and paid
> vacations, kiss my a$$. If you don't like the
> benefits at your job, then get another job. We
> don't need to work summers in order to get our job
> done and it's going to stay like that for a very,
> very, very long time. Your endless rants about
> time off and "babysitting" are cliche and show how
> behind the times you are. Now if you don't mind, I
> need to get back to preparing for work or perhaps
> I'll take the day off tomorrow.


Awesome advice.

Remember this next time when you fucktards starts bitching about a raise.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: The system is broken ()
Date: May 29, 2015 08:43AM

I am a degreed engineer and could easily teach high school Algebra, Trig, up to pre-Calc or Electronic Theory part-time with real life stories about how this shit is useful to keep it interesting. I'd need some refresher for Calculus, at least for the proofs. That would save money but no certificate so no job.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: youknowho ()
Date: May 29, 2015 09:24AM

The system is broken Wrote:
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> I am a degreed engineer and could easily teach
> high school Algebra, Trig, up to pre-Calc or
> Electronic Theory part-time with real life stories
> about how this shit is useful to keep it
> interesting. I'd need some refresher for
> Calculus, at least for the proofs. That would
> save money but no certificate so no job.


I doubt you could teach. Just because you know a subject, does not mean you could impart that knowledge on developing individuals.

Thinking you could is a common misconception. Hundreds of professionals from other industries try to teach in FCPS every year. Most leave after year one.

It takes an entirely different mindset and skillset. Content knowledge is only a basic starting point.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Zilch ()
Date: May 29, 2015 09:49AM

> I doubt you could teach. Just because you know a
> subject, does not mean you could impart that
> knowledge on developing individuals.
>
> Thinking you could is a common misconception.
> Hundreds of professionals from other industries
> try to teach in FCPS every year. Most leave after
> year one.
>
> It takes an entirely different mindset and
> skillset. Content knowledge is only a basic
> starting point.

+1. And I say this as someone who has advanced degrees and taught for a while in colleges. I'm still pretty sure my kid's first-grade teacher is some kind of wizard. It's a totally different beast.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: wah_wah! ()
Date: May 29, 2015 09:56AM

Sorry, but your bitching is irrelevant. $ needs to be set aside for illegals so they can become future democrat voters. You are just suffering the policies implemented by the people you voted into office.

No one cares OP. It's your own damned fault, now suffer and DIAF.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: another view ()
Date: May 29, 2015 09:59AM

Teaching elementary school and teaching high school are two different things. Teaching first graders requires knowledge of education principles and lots of classroom management. Teaching math in high school is a totally different item. Knowledge of math is more important--a couple of classes in teaching techniques and classroom management, and guidance for a semester by an experienced teacher would probably be enough.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Big Education ()
Date: May 29, 2015 10:27AM

Apparently teachers can't teach either since we have to have 3 levels of coaches and consultants to show them how to do it right so that kids can pass a series of basic competency tests.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: 2 Month Summer Vacations ()
Date: May 29, 2015 11:12AM

Let me know when school in Fairfax county is actually taught.

Summers off, done with work on weekday at 3pm and during the winter if a drop a rain hits or a snowflake falls no work that day.

Oh and forgot Holidays, a week+ off for Spring Break and a week+ for Christmas vacation. "Movie week" at the end of the school year.

Combine that with teacher retirement plans and it's a very cushy job with extremely high pay.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: youknowho ()
Date: May 29, 2015 01:22PM

2 Month Summer Vacations Wrote:
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> Let me know when school in Fairfax county is
> actually taught.
>
> Summers off, done with work on weekday at 3pm and
> during the winter if a drop a rain hits or a
> snowflake falls no work that day.
>
> Oh and forgot Holidays, a week+ off for Spring
> Break and a week+ for Christmas vacation. "Movie
> week" at the end of the school year.
>
> Combine that with teacher retirement plans and
> it's a very cushy job with extremely high pay.


If it that easy, why doesn't everyone do it? Why do 25% teachers leave the profession every year? Your assertions are silly and outdated.

Yes, there is time "off," but they are not compensated for it, per se. They are paid 10 months out of the year and their low (considering their educational attainment) reflects that.

Many teachers teach in the summer, most must attend trainings to be recertified. Most of the teachers I know, are at school an hour before the kids and an hour after, AND take plenty of work home.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: whatshisname ()
Date: May 29, 2015 01:25PM

Big Education Wrote:
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> Apparently teachers can't teach either since we
> have to have 3 levels of coaches and consultants
> to show them how to do it right so that kids can
> pass a series of basic competency tests.


Only Title 1 Schools, and it's paid by Federal dollars. Would you rather that money go to prisons?

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: not quite right ()
Date: May 29, 2015 03:00PM

whatshisname Wrote:
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> Big Education Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently teachers can't teach either since we
> > have to have 3 levels of coaches and
> consultants
> > to show them how to do it right so that kids
> can
> > pass a series of basic competency tests.
>
>
> Only Title 1 Schools, and it's paid by Federal
> dollars. Would you rather that money go to
> prisons?

There are people such as "Dr." Eric Jensen who suck up Title 1 money. But that does not explain "Dr." Tara Brach and her FCPS-wide "mindfulness initiative" that seems to be nothing more than a venue for her sales of books and CDs.

Then of course McElveen will push for another FCPS wide contract, this time for a transgender expert.

Cancel these contracts. Then let the teachers and Garza fight over raises.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Big Education ()
Date: May 29, 2015 03:05PM

whatshisname Wrote:
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> Big Education Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Apparently teachers can't teach either since we
> > have to have 3 levels of coaches and
> consultants
> > to show them how to do it right so that kids
> can
> > pass a series of basic competency tests.
>
>
> Only Title 1 Schools, and it's paid by Federal
> dollars. Would you rather that money go to
> prisons?

No, it's not paid by the Federal government. Look at the FCPS budget and the breakdowns for those positions, related training and seminars, travel, and consultants.

Besides being a stupid straw man argument, if it needs to be spent then I'd rather have it spent on actually teaching vs admin masturbation and whatever monthly new trendy education methodology and assessment bs comes down the line. And, just for purposes of relative magnitude, if you'd again look at the FCPS and State budgets you'd see that what we spend on prisons for the entire state is a drop in the bucket vs what we spend on FCPS alone.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Except the truth ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:42PM

Zilch Wrote:
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> > Hundreds of professionals from other industries
> > try to teach in FCPS every year. Most leave
> after year one.

Yours is not a truthful statement.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: parentx3 ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:47PM

Realistor Wrote:
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> Get a real job if you don't like your endless
> vacation time, holidays, and snow days.


Get a life if you think this is what teachers do….Teachers work endlessly on their vacations, holidays, and snow days not to mention spending their own money to supply their classrooms and students with the necessary supplies.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: parent3 ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:50PM

Combine that with teacher retirement plans and
> it's a very cushy job with extremely high pay.


It's statements like this that breed ignorance. I'd love to see what your "cushy" definition is….you're clueless.
How many times have you gone home from work crying because of what you see at school, and what your students bring to the classroom every day? How many nights have you laid awake wondering if your students are safe? Try thanking a teacher instead of criticizing what you don't know.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: parentx4 ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:52PM

support your teachers….
take away the union….get good teachers and you'll keep teachers.
stop making dumb statements like "must be nice to have your summers off…" this is so outdated and untruthful it makes me seethe.

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Re: Fairfax county teachers are fed up!
Posted by: Realistic ()
Date: May 29, 2015 04:54PM

parentx3 Wrote:
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> Realistor Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Get a real job if you don't like your endless
> > vacation time, holidays, and snow days.
>
>
> Get a life if you think this is what teachers
> do….Teachers work endlessly on their vacations,
> holidays, and snow days not to mention spending
> their own money to supply their classrooms and
> students with the necessary supplies.

Cry us a river during your two months of vacation, Spring breaks, Christmas breaks and student holidays. I've seen a ton of facebook posts from teacher on "vacation." Trust me their not putting together lesson plans or grading papers.

FYI - If you want to get more money then get real job that you work a full year. We get two months of vacation and guess what, most of us also end up on the phone or emailing for work during two weeks.

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