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need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Sonic ()
Date: May 04, 2009 03:22AM

I have been noticing lately that on tv there is alot of sonic commercials but the nearest one is Fredicksburg? I mean I know many of yall may not agree with me that they should build one in this location kingstowne due to the fact its Already packed with alot of kids around and I bet it would be nearly impossible to get a order but enough of that !!!

I Just wanted to know yall opion about if yall ever thought about it to??

P.s perfect spot would have been where they built that no good for nothing gas station next to Khols

THANK YOU!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: strates ()
Date: May 04, 2009 05:00AM

Maybe it's time you get into business, if you think you have all the answers.

here, I'll help you get your start:

http://www.sonicdrivein.com/business/franchise/index.jsp

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 09:12AM

I've actually wondered why there aren't Sonic franchises in this area. You have so many transplants from the South for the military, etc, I would think that putting Sonics in near Quantico, Belvoir, Chantilly, etc, the places would be packed.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: LOL ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:19AM

Screw Sonics they suck. Bring back Roy Rogers!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: sonic is not like the commercials ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:29AM

theres still a roy rogers in manassas. but i go have gone to sonic a couple of times while down in newport news and its just really bad. the commercials make it look amazing but the food can be really nasty! awesome selection of crap food though!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 09:36AM

Sonic burgers are about on par with something you would get a Dairy Queen, this is true. However, you can get tater tots, onion rings, Frito chili pie and some other selections you can't get at most other burger joints (I'm talking real onion rings, not those frozen Funyon things you get at Burger King).

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:50AM

Roy Rogers is alson on Rte 1 by the Home Depot (or is it a Lowes) by Inova Alexandria. A lovely part of town.

Yeah, I've also noticed that there are Sonic commercials all over the place. Yet not one of them is near here.

There seems to be a lack of certain chains once you approach the Beltway. Not sure if its marketing non-compete agreements or cost, or what. But consider the following:

No Hardees, no Sonic, no Waffle House.

You'll find Sonics in central PA (Lancaster/Harrisburg area), plenty around Fredericksburg, etc.

Same with Hardees. Closest ones are Manassas Park and Stafford. There are several up in Baltimore but none in the real DC area.

Same with Waffle House. 3 or 4 of them in Federick and one in Dumfries, but none around here.

WTF? We're stuck with shitty McCrap, Wendy's, and BurgerKing. Luckily, Chick'fil'a has recently discovered that the DC area has lots of money to spend...

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 04, 2009 09:58AM

What the hell is frito chili pie?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: cville ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:00AM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> WTF? We're stuck with shitty McCrap, Wendy's, and
> BurgerKing. Luckily, Chick'fil'a has recently
> discovered that the DC area has lots of money to
> spend...

Right, the first thing that comes to mind is high quality food with Hardlees, Waffle Ass and Sonic.

Hardees used to be here, and for some reason, people just didn't want dried out, flavorless food.

I don't even know where to start with Waffle House, just awful. But, Fred Smoot said he was looking to bring some to the beltway, so maybe in you're in luck. I'd rather see some Aunt Sarah's pancake houses.

Sonic, eh, goofy commercials, but I'm sure I'd be haulin ass to the closest crapper as soon as I had some.

I'd definitely like to see a return of more Roy's and bring in some more Wendy's.

I agree with McCrap though. Only worth going there after downing 20 beers.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:03AM

Some of the Hardees burgers are actually tasty. The $6.00 thickburgers are acceptable. Especially in comparison to a Whopper or A BigMuck.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 10:13AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> What the hell is frito chili pie?


The best way to describe it is "Hillbilly Nachos"...

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It's Fritos, chili and cheese. Kind of a deep South thing.



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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:17AM

Yah, if you want southern style fast food, I'd have to recommend Bojangles. Southern fried chicken at its crunchiest and greasiest...

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:31AM

LOL, as if fast food chili isn't greasy enough- let's add a bag of chips to it!!

I have friend out in CA who talks about eating at Sonic all the time. He's not a huge guy, but I'm sure his cholesterol level must be through the roof.



WashingTone Locian Wrote:
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> TheMeeper Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What the hell is frito chili pie?
>
>
> The best way to describe it is "Hillbilly
> Nachos"...
>
>
>
> It's Fritos, chili and cheese. Kind of a deep
> South thing.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 10:47AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> LOL, as if fast food chili isn't greasy enough-
> let's add a bag of chips to it!!
>
> I have friend out in CA who talks about eating at
> Sonic all the time. He's not a huge guy, but I'm
> sure his cholesterol level must be through the
> roof.
>
>
>

The best part about Sonic is that you don't ever have to get your fat ass out of the car.

sonic06ripc_400.jpg

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: umm hello? ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:49AM

i think there's still a roy rogers in leesburg, isnt there?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: in n out burger ()
Date: May 04, 2009 10:57AM

what we really need is an in n out burger
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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:01AM

In-n-Out rocks. Much better than Fatburger. Similar to Five guys, but much cheaper.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: in n out burger ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:05AM

five guys is definitely my fast-ish food burger stop in this area

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 11:15AM

That particular In-and-Out Burger looks like it would be in my mouth and out my ass pretty quickly.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Lurker.. ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:33AM

Sometimes when you don't see a popular franchise chain in an area it means somebody is sitting on the franchise rights for that area. The rights holder doesn't want to build, but is holding the rights until somebody buys them out for some overrated price.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: cville ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:34AM

umm hello? Wrote:
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> i think there's still a roy rogers in leesburg,
> isnt there?


Yea, there are several. Manassas, Leesburg, Kingstowne, Alexandria...

http://www.royrogersrestaurants.com/#/findroys

Still damn good, imo.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Fireball ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:40AM

There is also a Roy Rogers on Route 1 next to Woodlawn Plantation and one in KingsTown. the only other one I know of is Leesburg and Manassas Park. LOVE their Double "R"'s

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:40AM

Lurker.. Wrote:
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> Sometimes when you don't see a popular franchise
> chain in an area it means somebody is sitting on
> the franchise rights for that area. The rights
> holder doesn't want to build, but is holding the
> rights until somebody buys them out for some
> overrated price.


You're probably right, and I'd guess that is what happening with Hardees at least. They're like a rash around most mid-atlantic and southern metro areas including Richmond, Roanoke, Norfolk, and even Baltimore. DC, a big zero.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 11:42AM

Lurker.. Wrote:
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> Sometimes when you don't see a popular franchise
> chain in an area it means somebody is sitting on
> the franchise rights for that area. The rights
> holder doesn't want to build, but is holding the
> rights until somebody buys them out for some
> overrated price.


That's probably the case with Sonic. Also, I imagine the cost of land inside the beltway makes a drive-in restaurant impractical. Even if it were in the area, I would have to believe that the locations would be further out...toward Dulles, Manassas, Woodbridge, etc.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: jimmy jingles ()
Date: May 04, 2009 12:00PM

Hell yes we need a Sonics. Also a Steak & Shake!!

You need a few hundred K to start either franchise, but I'd guess there has to be a reason theres no sonics here yet.. Maybe land prices were/are too high to have a big enough lot filled with those car slots?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 04, 2009 12:11PM

Land might be an issue, but considering that land was extremely inexpensive along Rte 1 corridor and out in places like Cascades, Chantilly, Ashburn, and the like I would have expected to have seen at least one or two.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: jimmy jingles ()
Date: May 04, 2009 12:25PM

I looked at Sonic's franchise page, and while Virginia isn't listed, MD and "Washington DC Area" is available. The idea about land prices is also possibly not relevant since they have an option for "non-traditiona" layouts without the drive-in parking lot (food courts etc)

Maybe they're just waiting for someone to come along and start one.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Sonic ()
Date: May 04, 2009 01:31PM

See thats the problem that gas station in Kingstowne would have been perfect to build sonic but no they build this expensive gas station that people barely go to.


p.s there a roy rogers up in Manchester lakes shopping center where luckys is at

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 01:35PM

jimmy jingles Wrote:
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> Hell yes we need a Sonics. Also a Steak & Shake!!

haha hell yeah steak & shake brings me back to being in st. louis

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Howie Feltersnatch ()
Date: May 04, 2009 01:45PM

ITRADE Wrote:
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> In-n-Out rocks. Much better than Fatburger.
> Similar to Five guys, but much cheaper.


In-n-Out is similar to Five Guys in much the same way a Bud Light is similar Guiness. Imagine a Five Guys burger, only remove all the flavor, add a heaping helping of salt and extra grease and a side of fries that taste exactly like raw starch, and you've got In-n-Out burger. Also, if you think the service at FiveGuys is slow, just wait until you experience In-n-Out. The one time I went, I wanted to drag the guy across the counter and start beating on him screaming, "You've got like five ingredients. Why is it taking so fucking long?!?!?!?!?!?"

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: cville ()
Date: May 04, 2009 01:50PM

Howie Feltersnatch Wrote:
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> The one time I went, I
> wanted to drag the guy across the counter and
> start beating on him screaming, "You've got like
> five ingredients. Why is it taking so fucking
> long?!?!?!?!?!?"

Probably cause they were busy adding their own special ingredients. Ever wonder why your burger was so salty?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Date: May 04, 2009 03:25PM

i wasnt really ragging on five guys being slow. i was more trying to set it apart from "fast food" like mcdicks. i love five guys and think their service is fine. it just takes longer cause they cook the burger when you order it.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Bailey ()
Date: May 04, 2009 05:16PM

I was in Ohio this past weekend and they have a really good chicken finger place. It's called Raising Canes (or simply Canes to the locals). They sell only chicken finger meals. They use real chicken, really good fries, a big piece of Texas Toast and coleslaw. They also have a unique sauce that completes the entire meal. Their sweet tea is to-die-for. Way better than Chick-fil-A and McDonalds. They even have great ice! Haha. It's the little ice pebbles that break softly in your mouth. Every time I go to Ohio to visit family we go here at least once. Every time we go our food is so fresh it makes your mouth water.
If you ever try it, you HAVE to get the special sauce!

Check it out: http://www.raisingcanes.com/

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: real food, fast ()
Date: May 04, 2009 11:37PM

Checkers, anyone?

NE DC, New York Avenue...Alexandria (Hybla Valley), and I think, Manassas.

Forget Steak'n Shake, bring back Steak in a Sack!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: formerhick76 ()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:39AM

Actually, aren't we on the IHOP side of the IHOP-Waffle House line? Fredneck is more southern than we are, so they get Waffle House. We get IHOP.

Wendy's we can have more of. It's my fave of the fast food joints.

I'm surprised a franchisee can just sit on the rights w/o building -- wouldn't the parent company insist on actual progress so they can skim off the revenue or whatever franchising firms do?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:46AM

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:49AM

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:53AM

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 05, 2009 11:15AM

No no no on Jack in the Box.

Worst tacos. Ever.

On the other hand, the Jack ball antenna toys are great play toys for my wife's cat (I don't own a cat, my wife does).

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: TheMeeper ()
Date: May 05, 2009 11:21AM

What I'd really like to see are more Sheetz. The only one I've ever seen is all the way out past Dulles. I really dig their made to order sandwiches, and sometimes a Sheetz dog just really hits the spot.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: WingNut ()
Date: May 05, 2009 11:23AM

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ITRADE ()
Date: May 05, 2009 11:27AM

TheMeeper Wrote:
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> What I'd really like to see are more Sheetz. The
> only one I've ever seen is all the way out past
> Dulles. I really dig their made to order
> sandwiches, and sometimes a Sheetz dog just really
> hits the spot.


I know there's one in Dale City and one in Manassas Park. Beyond that. -shrug-

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: SONIC ()
Date: May 05, 2009 07:52PM

They are building 36 Sonics throughout the VA/DC/MD area. Not sure when construction is supposed to start though. I heard this on WTOP news about a month ago.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: KeepOnTruckin ()
Date: May 05, 2009 08:30PM

I visit the manasass park sheetz frequently. They ahve a beer cave and its open 24 hours

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Mofo ()
Date: May 05, 2009 09:51PM

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> I visit the manasass park sheetz frequently. They
> ahve a beer cave and its open 24 hours


Do they sell beer 24 hours?

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: ohlookit'sme ()
Date: May 06, 2009 08:55PM

We need a Sheetz nearby!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: fairfaxdude ()
Date: May 06, 2009 09:05PM

Honestly, Sheetz is like a 7-11 with a crappy to average deli inside. Hardly worthy of laudatory language.

The touch-screen ordering screens are kinda cool, though.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: honker ()
Date: May 07, 2009 10:19AM

I go to school at JMU and I had never been to sheetz before coming here. The gas is always the cheapest in the area and they are open 24-7. The deli is pretty lame, but if you are in the mood for a fried chicken sandwich or a pretzel you are in luck. I doubt fairfax would ever get one solely because we never get anything 24/7.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: RESton Peace ()
Date: May 07, 2009 10:24AM

Hess is actually usually the cheapest chain gas around, you should check them out.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: May 07, 2009 12:35PM

The last time I visited a Sonic was a few months ago
in Newport News (Oyster Point). I ordered a couple
of chili dogs, and had eaten a few bites, when I noticed
that the bread was just covered in green mold.

So I still retch when I hear the word "Sonic".

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Spacy ()
Date: May 07, 2009 12:37PM

ITRADE Wrote:
> No no no on Jack in the Box.

I used to eat at the Annandale one (now a Popeyes) by
PEP Boys all the time when I was in high school.

I remember noticing the Ralston-Purina checkerbox logo
on the bag one day, and thought it was funny that the
company was in the business of feeding both me and dogs.

Loved it!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Slit ()
Date: May 08, 2009 10:07AM

Sucks for the cows, though.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Bethany ()
Date: May 10, 2009 12:02AM

We need a Tim Horton's...

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Big bio ()
Date: January 30, 2013 08:05PM

cville Wrote:
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> umm hello? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > i think there's still a roy rogers in leesburg,
> > isnt there?
>
>
> Yea, there are several. Manassas, Leesburg,
> Kingstowne, Alexandria...
>
> http://www.royrogersrestaurants.com/#/findroys
>
> Still damn good, imo.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Big boi ()
Date: January 30, 2013 08:08PM

My wife and I love sonic. We would stop at the one in Fredericksburg before coming back to Nova. We just got a Wendy's built off Rt 28 in Centreville which is great but it's time for a sonic.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Te3GP ()
Date: January 30, 2013 08:30PM

There is a Sonic in Salem VA.Its off the southernmost exit from I-81.Food isn't that great.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Right?! ()
Date: January 31, 2013 03:04AM

You would think with Northern Va being such a commerically attractive area, there'd have been a local Sonic or two a long time ago!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Ray Crock ()
Date: January 31, 2013 03:16AM

Over my dead body!

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: jim143 ()
Date: January 31, 2013 05:50AM

Everyone needs a little In-N-Out. Also that place that does burgers in SoCal.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: MWU Dad ()
Date: September 22, 2013 04:45PM

Was in Fredericksburg yesterday. Sonic food is so damn good!! Wish we had one here.
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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 23, 2013 07:54AM

Sonic is okay but Krystal burger is the best. It needs to roll up north.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Or White Castle ()
Date: September 23, 2013 08:36AM

Tough One Wrote:
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> Sonic is okay but Krystal burger is the best. It
> needs to roll up north.

Or White Castle to roll down south. Its pretty much the same stuff.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 23, 2013 08:37AM

Or White Castle Wrote:
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> Tough One Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Sonic is okay but Krystal burger is the best.
> It
> > needs to roll up north.
>
> Or White Castle to roll down south. Its pretty
> much the same stuff.


I'm with you, although my personal pref is Krystal, a White Castle would be welcomed in Fairfax County.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: joSSIE ()
Date: September 23, 2013 08:42AM

Honestly, this is the FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND, with the over abundance of losers on this site, you think anyone would have enough capital to build a structure from ground up? People on this board barely have enough money to get out from living in their parents basement. Ground up build, engineering, architectual fees, county approval process, construction, equipment and fixtures, you'll have close to 2million in the whole project on a 1/2 acre commercial lot. Like my man stevie tyler use to say, "DREAM ON, DREAM ON, DREAM UNTIL YOUR DREAMS COME TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE"

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: Tough One ()
Date: September 23, 2013 08:55AM

joSSIE Wrote:
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> Honestly, this is the FAIRFAX UNDERGROUND, with
> the over abundance of losers on this site, you
> think anyone would have enough capital to build a
> structure from ground up? People on this board
> barely have enough money to get out from living in
> their parents basement. Ground up build,
> engineering, architectual fees, county approval
> process, construction, equipment and fixtures,
> you'll have close to 2million in the whole project
> on a 1/2 acre commercial lot. Like my man stevie
> tyler use to say, "DREAM ON, DREAM ON, DREAM UNTIL
> YOUR DREAMS COME TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE"


I don't think most people here are losers, although there are some for sure. However this area is an economic bed of opportunity for multiple commercial establishments, and with the universities and other places that attract younger people, could be a bastion of activity for restaurants such as Krystal or White Castle, Sonic, etc.

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Re: need to build a sonic in the area
Posted by: eLester ()
Date: September 23, 2013 09:24AM

Someone will eventually franchise Peruvian chicken.

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