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FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Tax Payer1 ()
Date: March 24, 2015 03:50PM

ear Mr. Patterson,

This serves as the response to your request for the total amount of money Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) spent on lawyers and/or law firms in 2013-2104 and the 5 most common Virginia Freedom of Information Act requests, pursuant to the Virginia Freedom of Information Act.

FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014. The top five most common Virginia Freedom of Information Act requests can be found in the FCPS Monitoring Report on pg. 13. A link to the presentation can be found here: http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/monitoring%20reports/2014-2015/TCSMonitoringReport12-8-14.pdf.

Sincerely,


Brandynn Reaves
Public Information Specialist / FOIA Officer
Office of Communications & Community Relations
Fairfax County Public Schools
T +1 571-423-1200 | F +1 571-423-1217

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: drop in the bucket ()
Date: March 24, 2015 04:35PM

That's it?

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Saul the litigator ()
Date: March 24, 2015 05:12PM

Imagine if I won all those slip and fall cases - the legals fees would be much more

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: One fifteenth hundred ()
Date: March 25, 2015 12:52PM

Seems pretty reasonable considering the budget is fifteen hundred times that amount. One fifteenth hundred for legal fees - I think they are doing very well on that expense. By the way how much are they Saving FFX by spending money on legal fees. If I had to guess the number would be quite large when compared to 1.5 million bucks.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Frekonomix ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:03PM

drop in the bucket Wrote:
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> That's it?


At $300 an hour, that is about 4,800 billable hours. At $400 an hour, that is about 3,600 billable hours. Two outside attorneys could handle this. I thought they might need an entire huge legal firm in addition to the Division Counsel for all the trouble they get themselves into.

We got off easy on this.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:07PM

What did they get in return?

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Frekonomix ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:13PM

Hey, it is about $1 per resident. What a deal. My family doesn't miss that gallon or two of milk or gas.

Bill N.-do you mean what did they get or what did we get in return?

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: March 25, 2015 01:50PM

What did the schools get. They were the ones paying for them. Also it wasn't so much an inquiry as a way of saying it isn't just what you spend, but the results you get from that spending.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Freko ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:03PM

We will probably never know because it is all protected information. Attorney-client stuff. We might be able to get generalizations, but probably not specifics.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Freko ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:04PM

But WE paid them. The school system used OUR money to pay them.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: just wait… ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:11PM

All it is going to take is ONE Boosterthon incident (injury, etc.) to make $1,465,755.90 look like pocket change.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: hmmmmmmmm ()
Date: March 25, 2015 02:49PM

Freko Wrote:
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> But WE paid them. The school system used OUR money
> to pay them.


You sound like one of those douches who thinks that paying taxes makes you the boss of everyone, and entitled to anything you want. Guess what, the employees of FCPS pay taxes too, as does my 9 year old when she buys something at the store.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: HnikhfuHnkh ()
Date: March 25, 2015 03:04PM

Paying taxes doesn't make you the boss, but you have the right to have a say and express your opinion and be aware of how your money is used. I think there are a lot of FCPS employees that think they have the right to do whatever with the money that is entrusted to them and spend it like it is their personal money.

No, we don't pay for golf and massages. Those are your personal expenses.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Ky3WL ()
Date: March 25, 2015 09:13PM


they asked for 1/2 billion in the paper to "refurbish" a mostly hispanic high school in herdon. that treason right there. one school the article said - not the whole system it said - if the article is right my jaw drops.




fx co gov just stated in news they are doubling their pay one year

who else is doubling pay 1 year in this crap obama economy were no one pays for anything and everyone is a gov worker ??


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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: sc v ()
Date: March 30, 2015 10:56AM

hate giving them my money

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: ffxu grades removal ()
Date: March 30, 2015 10:57AM

I wonder how much was spent on this site.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: wmWxW ()
Date: March 30, 2015 11:31AM

ffxu grades removal Wrote:
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> I wonder how much was spent on this site.

Not much, Cary folded like a deck of cards. Good on him though, he shouldn't have to pay for the stupid shit we do.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: jeff m ()
Date: March 30, 2015 11:38AM

wmWxW Wrote:
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> ffxu grades removal Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I wonder how much was spent on this site.
>
> Not much, Cary folded like a deck of cards. Good
> on him though, he shouldn't have to pay for the
> stupid shit we do.


did the kid go to jail?

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: ffxu grades removal ()
Date: March 30, 2015 11:41AM

jeff m Wrote:
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> wmWxW Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ffxu grades removal Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I wonder how much was spent on this site.
> >
> > Not much, Cary folded like a deck of cards.
> Good
> > on him though, he shouldn't have to pay for the
> > stupid shit we do.
>
>
> did the kid go to jail?

They never did find him. Cary did put up a little fight at first by keeping the grades up. Probably cost them a few thousand at least.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Untouchable ()
Date: March 30, 2015 12:39PM

FCPS claims that the system itself cannot be sued. Instead, it is usually the Fairfax County School Board, the 12-member elected government body, that addresses such litigation and the School Board is immune from paying out punitive damages in federal cases.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-seeks-to-dismiss-teachers-lawsuit-alleging-principals-bias/2014/10/29/1a6ba498-5fa2-11e4-8b9e-2ccdac31a031_story.html

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: n6jb6 ()
Date: March 30, 2015 10:37PM

i know they are getting continually sued

i can bet they are fucking people over simply so they can shuffle around dodging the lawsuits they intentionally attracted

(they get paid salary you know)

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Why Pay for Bailey's P Legal Fee ()
Date: April 15, 2015 06:20PM

Now, FCPS is spending your money to defend Marie Lemmon, Principal at Bailey's ES who allegedly discriminated against so many at this and her previous school? Why protect her? Is she one of the "chosen" ones? or is FCPS just trying to save face? They have already settled many of the charges--look on PACER--now, just one to go and then this is brushed under the rug once again. But, why are they spending tens of thousands of dollars to defend this principal who discriminates against others? Four or Five attorneys working on this one person's case and this is not her first time at the rodeo. I guess we have an endless amount of money to defend her and line the pockets of the outside attorneys who are dragging this along. Too bad that the central office doesn't realize this is not their money!! It's taxpayer money given to the division to educate our children, not defend bad principals.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: 879Mark ()
Date: July 21, 2015 06:48PM

A few teachers wrote letters to the region/cluster office, complaining about her leadership and many teacher's left last school year. The funny part is that she didn't even complete the entire school year. At her old school "Mount Vernon Woods", it was a "revolving door," because the turn over rates for teachers & staff was actually among the highest in the elementary school settings. Marie, didn't have programs at Mount Vernon Woods and she led by fear.

The former principal at Bailey's really changed the culture at Bailey's and put in place collaboration. It was a powerful tool for professional development and a driver for school improvement. Many still believe collaboration is a sign of weakness when, in fact, the work done to create collaborative working environments is far more difficult to achieve than the other positional, adversarial model.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: HanWinnerJoan ()
Date: July 21, 2015 06:52PM

I applaud Rachel Charlton for hanging on with her lawyer with fighting the county until it was over. She sent a message across to the county that ethics matter.

"Settling a case" means ending a dispute before the end of a trial. Although popular media often makes it seem like major cases are resolved in relatively short order, in reality, a case can potentially meander through the court system for years. Each side has to take time to investigate the facts of the case and research the law surrounding the case. Initial papers are filed with the court months before trial can begin. All of this time gives the parties room to undertake settlement negotiations.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: 879Mark ()
Date: July 21, 2015 07:01PM

Relatively few lawsuits ever go through the full range of procedures and all the way to trial. Most civil cases are settled by mutual agreement between the parties. A dispute can be settled even before a suit is filed. Once a suit is filed, it can be settled before the trial begins, during the trial, while the jury is deliberating, or even after a verdict is rendered.

A settlement doesn’t usually state that anyone was right or wrong in the case, nor does it have to settle the whole case. Part of a dispute can be settled, with the remaining issues left to be resolved by the judge or jury.

Mark Waller (879 Mark)

879Mark Wrote:
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> A few teachers wrote letters to the region/cluster
> office, complaining about her leadership and many
> teacher's left last school year. The funny part is
> that she didn't even complete the entire school
> year. At her old school "Mount Vernon Woods", it
> was a "revolving door," because the turn over
> rates for teachers & staff was actually among the
> highest in the elementary school settings. Marie,
> didn't have programs at Mount Vernon Woods and she
> led by fear.
>
> The former principal at Bailey's really changed
> the culture at Bailey's and put in place
> collaboration. It was a powerful tool for
> professional development and a driver for school
> improvement. Many still believe collaboration is a
> sign of weakness when, in fact, the work done to
> create collaborative working environments is far
> more difficult to achieve than the other
> positional, adversarial model.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: taxpayers will pay more ()
Date: June 03, 2016 04:23AM

The legal fees will go up even more...

Liberty Counsel Appeals Fairfax County School Board's Unlawful Policy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wmyHe_PPTQ

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: pcw93 ()
Date: June 03, 2016 11:41AM

Tax Payer1 Wrote:
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> ear Mr. Patterson,
>
> This serves as the response to your request for
> the total amount of money Fairfax County Public
> Schools (FCPS) spent on lawyers and/or law firms
> in 2013-2104 and the 5 most common Virginia
> Freedom of Information Act requests, pursuant to
> the Virginia Freedom of Information Act.
>
> FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in
> 2013-2014. The top five most common Virginia
> Freedom of Information Act requests can be found
> in the FCPS Monitoring Report on pg. 13. A link
> to the presentation can be found here:
> http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/monitoring%20repor
> ts/2014-2015/TCSMonitoringReport12-8-14.pdf.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Brandynn Reaves
> Public Information Specialist / FOIA Officer
> Office of Communications & Community Relations
> Fairfax County Public Schools
> T +1 571-423-1200 | F +1 571-423-1217

lawyers are not required for FOIA

also: i sent a principal an FOIA as to where a million dollars worth of made-in-USA industrial equipment had went to - and was given the run-around

i suspect mexicans were being paid to "add more onto the school", that the million dollars of industrial equipment is in mexico working against / to close down a usa factory

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: vLeUn ()
Date: June 03, 2016 11:44AM

also: FOIA is a bullshit law

it was the law since the gold rush that the USA gov, if it makes maps or any other records, they are open to the American Taxpayer Public (ie, not Noth Koreans) because the taxpayer paid to have them made

because freedom of access to gov records (at a fee for search and copying if desired) FOIA would only serve to limit gov liability of a law that already existed

tata gov lawyer rats. didn't beleive a word of it to begin with.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: ccVhv ()
Date: June 04, 2016 12:20PM

ccVhv

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: never ()
Date: July 30, 2020 09:38PM

He graduated from Virginia Tech with a
BS in Computer Engineering – Major in Networks and Cybersecurity.

Working at Lockheed Martin making a lot more than the teachers at Fairfax High School. shall remind anonymous. he was so fucking scared, but I am pretty sure most of the IT department at FCPS are high school drops outs.

ffxu grades removal Wrote:
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> jeff m Wrote:
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> -----
> > wmWxW Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > ffxu grades removal Wrote:
> > >
> >
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> >
> > > -----
> > > > I wonder how much was spent on this site.
> > >
> > > Not much, Cary folded like a deck of cards.
> > Good
> > > on him though, he shouldn't have to pay for
> the
> > > stupid shit we do.
> >
> >
> > did the kid go to jail?
>
> They never did find him. Cary did put up a little
> fight at first by keeping the grades up. Probably
> cost them a few thousand at least.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: Private dancer ()
Date: July 31, 2020 01:09AM

Many highly paid assholes work for FCPS. They take huge risks and fuck over parents they don’t know because they are bored at their jobs and are looking for some entertainment. They hate when people buck the system for the stupid shit that takes place at school and have a burn book like Mean Girls. One day they will get figured out hopefully and asked to “retire.” BT bitch I am looking at you.

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Re: FCPS spent $1,465,755.90 on legal fees in 2013-2014.
Posted by: FCPS disabled Lawsuit ()
Date: July 31, 2020 03:06AM

FCPS will probably have to pay 1.5Million for Each child it abused in this lawsuit given The green light a couple weeks Ago.
https://browngold.com/federal-judge-finds-ada-covers-fairfax-county-public-schools-restraint-seclusion

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