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Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Sue Sin
()
Date: March 20, 2015 05:30PM
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dont-sue-unless-you-can-30009.html
A court may decide in your favor, but it won't collect the judgment for you. So, before you sue, always ask yourself: Can I collect if I win? If you can't, think twice before filing a lawsuit.
Unfortunately, in a small but significant percentage of situations, people and businesses are broke (lawyers say "judgment proof"). Or, they're so good at hiding their assets that even if you sue and win, collecting your winnings is likely to prove impossible
Ways to Collect Judgments
When an individual won't pay voluntarily, collecting your judgment can be difficult unless that person has:
a job
money in the bank, or
real estate.
A court may decide in your favor, but it won't collect the judgment for you. So, before you sue, always ask yourself: Can I collect if I win? If you can't, think twice before filing a lawsuit.
Unfortunately, in a small but significant percentage of situations, people and businesses are broke (lawyers say "judgment proof"). Or, they're so good at hiding their assets that even if you sue and win, collecting your winnings is likely to prove impossible
Ways to Collect Judgments
When an individual won't pay voluntarily, collecting your judgment can be difficult unless that person has:
a job
money in the bank, or
real estate.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
ENwCt
()
Date: March 20, 2015 05:36PM
http://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/articles/2014/02/24/what-to-do-if-you-are-being-sued
What to Do If You Are Being Sued
Slapped with a lawsuit? Here's how to proceed, according to experts.
By Geoff Williams Feb 24, 2014
You will probably go through your entire life without being sued.
But every once in a while, it happens. Kat Garcia, 32, who lives in Los Angeles and works in public relations at the National Notary Association, was sued by her ex-fiance in 2010. She says he slapped her with a civil lawsuit for malicious prosecution, emotional distress and defamation.
Garcia describes being sued as "horrible." "It's emotionally, physically and financially draining," she says. "Despite our 'innocent until proven guilty' system, you can be 100 percent innocent and still be sued to the brink of near bankruptcy for frivolous reasons by malicious individuals."
What to Do If You Are Being Sued
Slapped with a lawsuit? Here's how to proceed, according to experts.
By Geoff Williams Feb 24, 2014
You will probably go through your entire life without being sued.
But every once in a while, it happens. Kat Garcia, 32, who lives in Los Angeles and works in public relations at the National Notary Association, was sued by her ex-fiance in 2010. She says he slapped her with a civil lawsuit for malicious prosecution, emotional distress and defamation.
Garcia describes being sued as "horrible." "It's emotionally, physically and financially draining," she says. "Despite our 'innocent until proven guilty' system, you can be 100 percent innocent and still be sued to the brink of near bankruptcy for frivolous reasons by malicious individuals."
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
FTuCn
()
Date: March 20, 2015 05:50PM
so basically low income ppl can't be sued
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
serious question
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:03PM
FTuCn Wrote:
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> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
Then why is eesh being sued?
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> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
Then why is eesh being sued?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
the gift that keeps on giving
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:05PM
Just because you can't collect all the money right away doesn't mean you can't still gain all sorts of benefits from having a judgement.
For example, if the person has any kind of a job, you can take up to 25% of their after-tax earnings by filing an order for garnishment. (Fill-in form here: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/ccr-g-30.pdf ).
That means that every payday, they get a reminder on their pay stub that 10 out of every 40 hours per week they're working for YOU.
Also, the amount of an unpaid judgement gathers interest at 6% per year, and a judgement can be enforced for 20 years, which can be extended by as much as 20 more years.
You can also report the judgement to the big three credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe even rent an apartment, because all of those things require credit checks.
A large, uncollected judgement is the gift that keeps on giving.
For example, if the person has any kind of a job, you can take up to 25% of their after-tax earnings by filing an order for garnishment. (Fill-in form here: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/ccr-g-30.pdf ).
That means that every payday, they get a reminder on their pay stub that 10 out of every 40 hours per week they're working for YOU.
Also, the amount of an unpaid judgement gathers interest at 6% per year, and a judgement can be enforced for 20 years, which can be extended by as much as 20 more years.
You can also report the judgement to the big three credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe even rent an apartment, because all of those things require credit checks.
A large, uncollected judgement is the gift that keeps on giving.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
OR...
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:14PM
the gift that keeps on giving Wrote:
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> ...
> You can also report the judgement to the big three
> credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and
> Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit
> up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to
> buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe
> even rent an apartment, ...
>
>
...Or get a job
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> ...
> You can also report the judgement to the big three
> credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and
> Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit
> up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to
> buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe
> even rent an apartment, ...
>
>
...Or get a job
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
No employment
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:19PM
"You can't garnish a welfare, Social Security, unemployment, pension, or disability check. So if the person you want to sue gets all his or her income from one of those sources, you'll need to locate other non-exempt income or assets. Other common collection sources are real estate (except for equity in a personal residence, which may be protected by your state's homestead law), bank accounts, and stocks and bonds."
Can't touch G.I bill
Can't touch G.I bill
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
vpxck
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:25PM
serious question Wrote:
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> FTuCn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
>
> Then why is eesh being sued?
He's not low income
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> FTuCn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
>
> Then why is eesh being sued?
He's not low income
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
employment prospects dim
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:33PM
OR... Wrote:
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> the gift that keeps on giving Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...
> > You can also report the judgement to the big
> three
> > credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion
> and
> > Experian) which will effectively fuck their
> credit
> > up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan
> to
> > buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or
> maybe
> > even rent an apartment, ...
> >
> >
>
> ...Or get a job
You can get a job with a judgement, just not the kind of job that requires any kind of responsibility or trust. Think jobs where you're required to wear a uniform and ask things like "Do you want fries with that?".
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> the gift that keeps on giving Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ...
> > You can also report the judgement to the big
> three
> > credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion
> and
> > Experian) which will effectively fuck their
> credit
> > up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan
> to
> > buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or
> maybe
> > even rent an apartment, ...
> >
> >
>
> ...Or get a job
You can get a job with a judgement, just not the kind of job that requires any kind of responsibility or trust. Think jobs where you're required to wear a uniform and ask things like "Do you want fries with that?".
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
JnMPu
()
Date: March 20, 2015 06:39PM
Why would he need a job when he has his GI bill?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
good to the last drop
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:00PM
JnMPu Wrote:
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> Why would he need a job when he has his GI bill?
This is true. He's determined to milk that tit of its last drop.
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> Why would he need a job when he has his GI bill?
This is true. He's determined to milk that tit of its last drop.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
7HpUW
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:02PM
When I was a young private investigator I was working for a law firm in Miami. We got a judgement against a young guy resulting from not having any insurance in a car accident.
About 12-15 years after we got the judgment (and I was long gone working somewhere else) one of the staff called me and told me they had heard from the guy. He wanted to become a State Trooper in Tennessee and he had to get the judgement cleared up before he could start the training to become a cop. They set up a payment plan and he started making monthly payments.
So yes, always get the judgement.
Also, you never know when someone may get lucky and hit the Powerball!
About 12-15 years after we got the judgment (and I was long gone working somewhere else) one of the staff called me and told me they had heard from the guy. He wanted to become a State Trooper in Tennessee and he had to get the judgement cleared up before he could start the training to become a cop. They set up a payment plan and he started making monthly payments.
So yes, always get the judgement.
Also, you never know when someone may get lucky and hit the Powerball!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
A lotto Eesh
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:09PM
I doubt Eesh wanted to be a cop or plays the lotto..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
N7DnE
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:25PM
serious question Wrote:
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> FTuCn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
>
> Then why is eesh being sued?
They can be sued. Just because you can't collect, doesn't mean you don't have a judgment.
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> FTuCn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
>
> Then why is eesh being sued?
They can be sued. Just because you can't collect, doesn't mean you don't have a judgment.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
judgement proof
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:30PM
low income people or people without money or assests are judgement proof
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Nice Guy Eddie
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:44PM
FTuCn Wrote:
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> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
They can but its a waste of time. You'll spend more trying to collect than you'll actually get.
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> so basically low income ppl can't be sued
They can but its a waste of time. You'll spend more trying to collect than you'll actually get.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
PEcLL
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:46PM
Often, a judgment creditor will seek to garnish your income to satisfy a money judgment. This means that money is taken out of your paycheck to pay back the judgment. However, a judgment creditor cannot attempt to take income that you receive from any one or more of the following sources:
Social Security benefits
Supplemental Security Income benefits
public assistance benefits
unemployment benefits
veteran’s benefits
child support, and
federal employee and civil service retirement benefits.
Social Security benefits
Supplemental Security Income benefits
public assistance benefits
unemployment benefits
veteran’s benefits
child support, and
federal employee and civil service retirement benefits.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Nolo
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:49PM
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-does-judgment-proof-mean.html
What Does it Mean to be Judgment Proof?
When a creditor sues you and gets a money judgment against you, it has a variety of methods it can use to collect on that money judgment. A creditor can garnish your wages, place a levy on your bank account, and/or place a lien against any real estate that you own.
However, if you don’t have any income or property that the creditor can legally go after, then you are what is often referred to as judgment proof. The term is a bit of a misnomer, because the creditor can sue you and get a judgment -- it just cannot collect on the judgment.
What Does it Mean to be Judgment Proof?
When a creditor sues you and gets a money judgment against you, it has a variety of methods it can use to collect on that money judgment. A creditor can garnish your wages, place a levy on your bank account, and/or place a lien against any real estate that you own.
However, if you don’t have any income or property that the creditor can legally go after, then you are what is often referred to as judgment proof. The term is a bit of a misnomer, because the creditor can sue you and get a judgment -- it just cannot collect on the judgment.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
TjtTV
()
Date: March 20, 2015 07:51PM
judgement proof Wrote:
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> low income people or people without money or
> assests are judgement proof
When Are You Judgment Proof?
Generally, you are judgment proof if you:
do not own any assets such money in a bank account or real estate
are not working or have a very low-paying job, and
any other source of income is exempt from seizure by judgment creditors. Examples include unemployment benefits, social security, and other public entitlement benefits.
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> low income people or people without money or
> assests are judgement proof
When Are You Judgment Proof?
Generally, you are judgment proof if you:
do not own any assets such money in a bank account or real estate
are not working or have a very low-paying job, and
any other source of income is exempt from seizure by judgment creditors. Examples include unemployment benefits, social security, and other public entitlement benefits.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
ub4LY
()
Date: March 20, 2015 08:27PM
why ? political families sue the gov and collect all the time.
infact the DOJ shows in their own statistics (which lie) that government workers are making out like bandits using the courts - which they control
judgement as to money awards is HIGHLY in their favor
and judgement as to "hide his ass in prison where no one can hear him scream" - is almost always AGAINST denizens facing county workers
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
derp
()
Date: March 20, 2015 09:19PM
N7DnE Wrote:
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> serious question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FTuCn Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
> >
> > Then why is eesh being sued?
>
>
> They can be sued. Just because you can't collect,
> doesn't mean you don't have a judgment.
then what's the point of having a judgement if you can't collect?!
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> serious question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > FTuCn Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > so basically low income ppl can't be sued
> >
> > Then why is eesh being sued?
>
>
> They can be sued. Just because you can't collect,
> doesn't mean you don't have a judgment.
then what's the point of having a judgement if you can't collect?!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Good for reasons other than $$$
()
Date: March 21, 2015 02:54PM
Even if you never collect, getting a judgement on someone can warn other people to avoid dealings with them; it gets on their credit report and on background checks. So for $70 in service and court fees, and a bit of your time, you can do the community a service.
True though, it can be difficult if not impossible to collect from someone who is "judgement proof". That's why car insurance policies always provides some form of self-insurance, in case an asset-less deadbeat without insurance hits and hospitalizes you. If you're only in it for the $$$, and you also need to hire a lawyer, then it's worth validating a bit how much a potential defendant is worth.
True though, it can be difficult if not impossible to collect from someone who is "judgement proof". That's why car insurance policies always provides some form of self-insurance, in case an asset-less deadbeat without insurance hits and hospitalizes you. If you're only in it for the $$$, and you also need to hire a lawyer, then it's worth validating a bit how much a potential defendant is worth.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Saul Goodman
()
Date: March 21, 2015 02:58PM
"Go on, and sue me, I don't have nothing!"
When people say that to me, I tell them, "And now you never will."
When people say that to me, I tell them, "And now you never will."
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
kD9F9
()
Date: March 21, 2015 08:10PM
Saul Goodman Wrote:
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> "Go on, and sue me, I don't have nothing!"
>
> When people say that to me, I tell them, "And now
> you never will."
No you don't
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> "Go on, and sue me, I don't have nothing!"
>
> When people say that to me, I tell them, "And now
> you never will."
No you don't
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Its Not A One Way Street
()
Date: March 21, 2015 10:41PM
You can be counter sued if you don't win or even other wise, Just because you sue some one that does not mean your in the right,and will collect or anything else. You could get a counter suit against you that will take you to the cleaners.
Better watch your ass If you want to sue some one and get some very good legal advice and have a deep pocket lined with cash.
Better watch your ass If you want to sue some one and get some very good legal advice and have a deep pocket lined with cash.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Good for reasons other than $$$
()
Date: March 22, 2015 12:22AM
Yes, it's very true one can be counter sued. But I don't think that's a solid reason for not pursuing a case if there is genuine legal merit behind it. But as "Its Not a One Way Street" says, getting legal counsel is a very good idea. Launching a baseless lawsuit against someone can come back and bite you.
And one thing to remember is that if you are suing as a corporation and not an individual, you'll need to hire a lawyer; corporations and LLCs can't represent themselves. So the cost of legal action goes up there.
The key thing to remember is the legal system isn't a play thing. Using it frivolously isn't smart, and can come back and hurt you. That said, winning a case in court feels great, even if you never collect your judgement
And one thing to remember is that if you are suing as a corporation and not an individual, you'll need to hire a lawyer; corporations and LLCs can't represent themselves. So the cost of legal action goes up there.
The key thing to remember is the legal system isn't a play thing. Using it frivolously isn't smart, and can come back and hurt you. That said, winning a case in court feels great, even if you never collect your judgement
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: March 22, 2015 12:47AM
Its Not A One Way Street Wrote:
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> You can be counter sued if you don't win or even
> other wise, Just because you sue some one that
> does not mean your in the right,and will collect
> or anything else. You could get a counter suit
> against you that will take you to the cleaners.
>
> Better watch your ass If you want to sue some one
> and get some very good legal advice and have a
> deep pocket lined with cash.
You can certainly make a counterclaim (and even a crossclaim against your co-defendant.)
However, what you really need is an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law.
For example, let's say someone sues you because they want compensation for an allegedly vandalized car. Well, your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney can look at insurance claims for their address, including their parent's home and the one room apartment they rent near VCU. Your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney can also point out how the pleadings for compensation are insufficient as Virginia case law is very strict on how to plead for damages.
So what can an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he can point all the claims that are barred by statues of limitations. An individual can't make claims in 2015 for statements that were made in 2012 and 2013 for starters.
Your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney will also point out that emotional distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia law when there has been no physical contact. He can also point out that since emotional distress is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot sue for both defamation and emotional distress.
He can also point out how § 8.01-407.1 is very clear on how an anonymous internet commenter is brought to court, and how the lawsuit brought against the John Doe co-defendant has made no effort to follow this statute. Since John Doe is an indispensable party, the suit cannot continue against you since most of the pleadings are "and/or John Doe." Highly speculative claims as well are not allowed.
Your attorney will also take note that you continue to be served in Henrico County, yet in the suit, venue was listed as appropriate partly due to the fact that you have residence or a business in Fairfax. Your attorney will also notice that the lawsuit falsely claimed that the plaintiffs live in Fairfax and that you talked to a Fairfax detective. Since the plaintiffs live in Loudoun, and the detective that you talked to is a Loudoun detective, venue was further falsely justified.
You can also point out how the suit claims the plaintiff was "swatted", and how the SWAT team surrounded the home with "guns drawn." Fortunately you have detailed police reports that you obtained from the Freedom of Information Act that clearly states that no SWAT team has ever been deployed to plaintiffs' home.
So in the end, you don't need a counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file a motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs and their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
You know you are having a great day when your attorney laughs continuously at the plaintiffs' pleadings and points out all the errors made in the suit.
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> You can be counter sued if you don't win or even
> other wise, Just because you sue some one that
> does not mean your in the right,and will collect
> or anything else. You could get a counter suit
> against you that will take you to the cleaners.
>
> Better watch your ass If you want to sue some one
> and get some very good legal advice and have a
> deep pocket lined with cash.
You can certainly make a counterclaim (and even a crossclaim against your co-defendant.)
However, what you really need is an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law.
For example, let's say someone sues you because they want compensation for an allegedly vandalized car. Well, your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney can look at insurance claims for their address, including their parent's home and the one room apartment they rent near VCU. Your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney can also point out how the pleadings for compensation are insufficient as Virginia case law is very strict on how to plead for damages.
So what can an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he can point all the claims that are barred by statues of limitations. An individual can't make claims in 2015 for statements that were made in 2012 and 2013 for starters.
Your personal injury and medical malpractice attorney will also point out that emotional distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia law when there has been no physical contact. He can also point out that since emotional distress is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot sue for both defamation and emotional distress.
He can also point out how § 8.01-407.1 is very clear on how an anonymous internet commenter is brought to court, and how the lawsuit brought against the John Doe co-defendant has made no effort to follow this statute. Since John Doe is an indispensable party, the suit cannot continue against you since most of the pleadings are "and/or John Doe." Highly speculative claims as well are not allowed.
Your attorney will also take note that you continue to be served in Henrico County, yet in the suit, venue was listed as appropriate partly due to the fact that you have residence or a business in Fairfax. Your attorney will also notice that the lawsuit falsely claimed that the plaintiffs live in Fairfax and that you talked to a Fairfax detective. Since the plaintiffs live in Loudoun, and the detective that you talked to is a Loudoun detective, venue was further falsely justified.
You can also point out how the suit claims the plaintiff was "swatted", and how the SWAT team surrounded the home with "guns drawn." Fortunately you have detailed police reports that you obtained from the Freedom of Information Act that clearly states that no SWAT team has ever been deployed to plaintiffs' home.
So in the end, you don't need a counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file a motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs and their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
You know you are having a great day when your attorney laughs continuously at the plaintiffs' pleadings and points out all the errors made in the suit.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
clown college student carrers
()
Date: March 22, 2015 12:58AM
the gift that keeps on giving Wrote:
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> Just because you can't collect all the money right
> away doesn't mean you can't still gain all sorts
> of benefits from having a judgement.
>
> For example, if the person has any kind of a job,
> you can take up to 25% of their after-tax earnings
> by filing an order for garnishment. (Fill-in form
> here:
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/cc
> r-g-30.pdf ).
>
> That means that every payday, they get a reminder
> on their pay stub that 10 out of every 40 hours
> per week they're working for YOU.
>
> Also, the amount of an unpaid judgement gathers
> interest at 6% per year, and a judgement can be
> enforced for 20 years, which can be extended by as
> much as 20 more years.
>
> You can also report the judgement to the big three
> credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and
> Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit
> up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to
> buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe
> even rent an apartment, because all of those
> things require credit checks.
>
> A large, uncollected judgement is the gift that
> keeps on giving.
Eesh doesn't work, he is a professional community college student.
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> Just because you can't collect all the money right
> away doesn't mean you can't still gain all sorts
> of benefits from having a judgement.
>
> For example, if the person has any kind of a job,
> you can take up to 25% of their after-tax earnings
> by filing an order for garnishment. (Fill-in form
> here:
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/circuit/pdf/cc
> r-g-30.pdf ).
>
> That means that every payday, they get a reminder
> on their pay stub that 10 out of every 40 hours
> per week they're working for YOU.
>
> Also, the amount of an unpaid judgement gathers
> interest at 6% per year, and a judgement can be
> enforced for 20 years, which can be extended by as
> much as 20 more years.
>
> You can also report the judgement to the big three
> credit reporting agencies (Equifax, Transunion and
> Experian) which will effectively fuck their credit
> up for YEARS. They won't be able to get a loan to
> buy a house or a car, get a credit card, or maybe
> even rent an apartment, because all of those
> things require credit checks.
>
> A large, uncollected judgement is the gift that
> keeps on giving.
Eesh doesn't work, he is a professional community college student.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
awsome
()
Date: March 22, 2015 01:45AM
sounds like you have a really awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney eesh
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
13th grade 40 year old virgin
()
Date: March 22, 2015 01:52AM
clown college student carrers Wrote:
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>
> Eesh doesn't work, he is a professional community
> college student...
...who is almost 40 years old.
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>
> Eesh doesn't work, he is a professional community
> college student...
...who is almost 40 years old.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
113:1
()
Date: March 22, 2015 01:57AM
Out of the 113 things you've being accused of all the plantiffs need to do is find you guilty one 1 and you will lose..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
ucPt3
()
Date: March 22, 2015 02:05AM
113:1 Wrote:
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> Out of the 113 things you've being accused of all
> the plantiffs need to do is find you guilty one 1
> and you will lose..
Technically no and yes. He won't have to pay them for the claims he can have thrown out.
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> Out of the 113 things you've being accused of all
> the plantiffs need to do is find you guilty one 1
> and you will lose..
Technically no and yes. He won't have to pay them for the claims he can have thrown out.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
113:1
()
Date: March 22, 2015 02:08AM
There are 113 different claims not because the plantiifs actually expect to be awarded $1 million dollars but to show the enormous amount of time and planning eesh put into his campaign. Many things may be thrown out but several will be there to back everything else up.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4JdHX
()
Date: March 22, 2015 02:12AM
I see absolutely no one knows what they're talking about and are getting their information from Google, every single person who has posted something legal related got it from Google or is assuming things.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
even to eesh
()
Date: March 22, 2015 02:16AM
awsome Wrote:
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> sounds like you have a really awesome personal
> injury and medical malpractice attorney eesh
he said he can't afford a lawyer because he has no money so whatever lawyer he has is some no name cheap crappy lawyer who I hope didn't tell eesh any of these things because giving false hope to someone is cruel.
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> sounds like you have a really awesome personal
> injury and medical malpractice attorney eesh
he said he can't afford a lawyer because he has no money so whatever lawyer he has is some no name cheap crappy lawyer who I hope didn't tell eesh any of these things because giving false hope to someone is cruel.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
pH6L9
()
Date: March 22, 2015 02:35AM
awsome Wrote:
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> sounds like you have a really awesome personal
> injury and medical malpractice attorney eesh
+1
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> sounds like you have a really awesome personal
> injury and medical malpractice attorney eesh
+1
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Tee hee heesh
()
Date: March 22, 2015 06:48AM
Misery looks like an idiot.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Blue Velvet
()
Date: March 22, 2015 07:33AM
eesh Wrote:
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> Its Not A One Way Street Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You can be counter sued if you don't win or
> even
> > other wise, Just because you sue some one that
> > does not mean your in the right,and will
> collect
> > or anything else. You could get a counter suit
> > against you that will take you to the cleaners.
> >
> > Better watch your ass If you want to sue some
> one
> > and get some very good legal advice and have a
> > deep pocket lined with cash.
>
>
> You can certainly make a counterclaim (and even a
> crossclaim against your co-defendant.)
>
> However, what you really need is an awesome
> personal injury and medical malpractice attorney
> that really understands tort law.
>
> For example, let's say someone sues you because
> they want compensation for an allegedly vandalized
> car. Well, your personal injury and medical
> malpractice attorney can look at insurance claims
> for their address, including their parent's home
> and the one room apartment they rent near VCU.
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney can also point out how the pleadings for
> compensation are insufficient as Virginia case law
> is very strict on how to plead for damages.
>
>
> So what can an awesome personal injury and medical
> malpractice attorney that really understands tort
> law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he
> can point all the claims that are barred by
> statues of limitations. An individual can't make
> claims in 2015 for statements that were made in
> 2012 and 2013 for starters.
>
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical contact. He
> can also point out that since emotional distress
> is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot
> sue for both defamation and emotional
> distress.
>
> He can also point out how § 8.01-407.1 is very
> clear on how an anonymous internet commenter is
> brought to court, and how the lawsuit brought
> against the John Doe co-defendant has made no
> effort to follow this statute. Since John Doe is
> an indispensable party, the suit cannot continue
> against you since most of the pleadings are
> "and/or John Doe." Highly speculative claims as
> well are not allowed.
>
>
> Your attorney will also take note that you
> continue to be served in Henrico County, yet in
> the suit, venue was listed as appropriate partly
> due to the fact that you have residence or a
> business in Fairfax. Your attorney will also
> notice that the lawsuit falsely claimed that the
> plaintiffs live in Fairfax and that you talked to
> a Fairfax detective. Since the plaintiffs live in
> Loudoun, and the detective that you talked to is a
> Loudoun detective, venue was further falsely
> justified.
>
>
> You can also point out how the suit claims the
> plaintiff was "swatted", and how the SWAT team
> surrounded the home with "guns drawn." Fortunately
> you have detailed police reports that you
> obtained from the Freedom of Information Act that
> clearly states that no SWAT team has ever been
> deployed to plaintiffs' home.
>
>
>
>
> So in the end, you don't need a
> counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file a
> motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs and
> their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
>
> You know you are having a great day when your
> attorney laughs continuously at the plaintiffs'
> pleadings and points out all the errors made in
> the suit.
Excellent!
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> Its Not A One Way Street Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You can be counter sued if you don't win or
> even
> > other wise, Just because you sue some one that
> > does not mean your in the right,and will
> collect
> > or anything else. You could get a counter suit
> > against you that will take you to the cleaners.
> >
> > Better watch your ass If you want to sue some
> one
> > and get some very good legal advice and have a
> > deep pocket lined with cash.
>
>
> You can certainly make a counterclaim (and even a
> crossclaim against your co-defendant.)
>
> However, what you really need is an awesome
> personal injury and medical malpractice attorney
> that really understands tort law.
>
> For example, let's say someone sues you because
> they want compensation for an allegedly vandalized
> car. Well, your personal injury and medical
> malpractice attorney can look at insurance claims
> for their address, including their parent's home
> and the one room apartment they rent near VCU.
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney can also point out how the pleadings for
> compensation are insufficient as Virginia case law
> is very strict on how to plead for damages.
>
>
> So what can an awesome personal injury and medical
> malpractice attorney that really understands tort
> law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he
> can point all the claims that are barred by
> statues of limitations. An individual can't make
> claims in 2015 for statements that were made in
> 2012 and 2013 for starters.
>
> Your personal injury and medical malpractice
> attorney will also point out that emotional
> distress claims of "fear and anxiety" and "need
> for counseling" are insufficient under Virginia
> law when there has been no physical contact. He
> can also point out that since emotional distress
> is central to the tort of defamation, you cannot
> sue for both defamation and emotional
> distress.
>
> He can also point out how § 8.01-407.1 is very
> clear on how an anonymous internet commenter is
> brought to court, and how the lawsuit brought
> against the John Doe co-defendant has made no
> effort to follow this statute. Since John Doe is
> an indispensable party, the suit cannot continue
> against you since most of the pleadings are
> "and/or John Doe." Highly speculative claims as
> well are not allowed.
>
>
> Your attorney will also take note that you
> continue to be served in Henrico County, yet in
> the suit, venue was listed as appropriate partly
> due to the fact that you have residence or a
> business in Fairfax. Your attorney will also
> notice that the lawsuit falsely claimed that the
> plaintiffs live in Fairfax and that you talked to
> a Fairfax detective. Since the plaintiffs live in
> Loudoun, and the detective that you talked to is a
> Loudoun detective, venue was further falsely
> justified.
>
>
> You can also point out how the suit claims the
> plaintiff was "swatted", and how the SWAT team
> surrounded the home with "guns drawn." Fortunately
> you have detailed police reports that you
> obtained from the Freedom of Information Act that
> clearly states that no SWAT team has ever been
> deployed to plaintiffs' home.
>
>
>
>
> So in the end, you don't need a
> counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file a
> motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs and
> their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
>
> You know you are having a great day when your
> attorney laughs continuously at the plaintiffs'
> pleadings and points out all the errors made in
> the suit.
Excellent!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
@eesh.
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:32AM
Still haven't lawyer-ed up I see. The first thing any lawyer would do is tell you to stop posting.
Continue on though... I'm sure you have done enough internet research to defend yourself.
Continue on though... I'm sure you have done enough internet research to defend yourself.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
AskTheWizard
()
Date: March 22, 2015 12:55PM
Dumbshit hoochie mamma (lawsuit happy) at work asks, "If'n you sue somebody and they ain't gots no money where's that money come from?" Well duh......
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
jYnDP
()
Date: March 22, 2015 01:26PM
Blue Velvet Wrote:
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > So in the end, you don't need a
> > counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file
> a
> > motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs
> and
> > their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
> >
> > You know you are having a great day when your
> > attorney laughs continuously at the
> plaintiffs'
> > pleadings and points out all the errors made in
> > the suit.
>
> Excellent!
A motion to impose sanctions at this point in the proceedings would not succeed, and would be a bad idea. From other posts on this site, it sounds like the defendant is going to file a demurrer. That's appropriate, but it almost certainly won't result in a dismissal of the complaint. At best, the demurrer might be sustained as to some of the counts, and the plaintiff will be granted leave to amend. The case will keep going, with the trial starting on January 11, 2016.
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> eesh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > So in the end, you don't need a
> > counterclaim/countersuit, you just need to file
> a
> > motion to impose sanctions on the plaintiffs
> and
> > their attorney for frivolous sham pleadings.
> >
> > You know you are having a great day when your
> > attorney laughs continuously at the
> plaintiffs'
> > pleadings and points out all the errors made in
> > the suit.
>
> Excellent!
A motion to impose sanctions at this point in the proceedings would not succeed, and would be a bad idea. From other posts on this site, it sounds like the defendant is going to file a demurrer. That's appropriate, but it almost certainly won't result in a dismissal of the complaint. At best, the demurrer might be sustained as to some of the counts, and the plaintiff will be granted leave to amend. The case will keep going, with the trial starting on January 11, 2016.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Bill.N.
()
Date: March 22, 2015 03:10PM
derp Wrote:
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> then what's the point of having a judgement if you
> can't collect?!
To fuck with the debtors and to discourage others from doing the same.
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> then what's the point of having a judgement if you
> can't collect?!
To fuck with the debtors and to discourage others from doing the same.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Apology Boobs
()
Date: March 22, 2015 03:15PM
Good for reasons other than $$$ Wrote:
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>
> That's why car insurance policies always provides
> some form of self-insurance, in case an asset-less
> deadbeat without insurance hits and hospitalizes
> you. If you're only in it for the $$$, and you
> also need to hire a lawyer, then it's worth
> validating a bit how much a potential defendant is
> worth.
That's called Uninsured Motorist Protection and not all states have it. VA mandates it.
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>
> That's why car insurance policies always provides
> some form of self-insurance, in case an asset-less
> deadbeat without insurance hits and hospitalizes
> you. If you're only in it for the $$$, and you
> also need to hire a lawyer, then it's worth
> validating a bit how much a potential defendant is
> worth.
That's called Uninsured Motorist Protection and not all states have it. VA mandates it.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Trife
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:13PM
What's your lawyer's name? We know Misery's, it's only fair..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Eesh's lawyer
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:18PM
Trife Wrote:
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> What's your lawyer's name? We know Misery's, it's
> only fair..
Michael Basl, graduate from google law school and wikihow law.
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> What's your lawyer's name? We know Misery's, it's
> only fair..
Michael Basl, graduate from google law school and wikihow law.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Hippocampus Malfunction
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:31PM
Date: September 07, 2014 12:50PM
eesh Wrote:
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> According to the anon poster, I apparently drove
> to a poster's house to "drive them off the forum."
> No more details than that, though. I would like to
> hear the story though.
eesh Wrote:
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> According to the anon poster, I apparently drove
> to a poster's house to "drive them off the forum."
> No more details than that, though. I would like to
> hear the story though.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:33PM
Eesh's lawyer Wrote:
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> Trife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What's your lawyer's name? We know Misery's,
> it's
> > only fair..
>
>
> Michael Basl, graduate from google law school and
> wikihow law.
That was worth a chuckle.
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> Trife Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What's your lawyer's name? We know Misery's,
> it's
> > only fair..
>
>
> Michael Basl, graduate from google law school and
> wikihow law.
That was worth a chuckle.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
ueu3y
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:34PM
eesh Wrote:
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> blah blah tort
Half sketchy, half total rubbish.
jYnDP Wrote:
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> A motion to impose sanctions at this point in the
> proceedings would not succeed, and would be a bad
> idea. From other posts on this site, it sounds
> like the defendant is going to file a demurrer.
> That's appropriate, but it almost certainly won't
> result in a dismissal of the complaint. At best,
> the demurrer might be sustained as to some of the
> counts, and the plaintiff will be granted leave to
> amend. The case will keep going, with the trial
> starting on January 11, 2016.
True dat.
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> blah blah tort
Half sketchy, half total rubbish.
jYnDP Wrote:
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> A motion to impose sanctions at this point in the
> proceedings would not succeed, and would be a bad
> idea. From other posts on this site, it sounds
> like the defendant is going to file a demurrer.
> That's appropriate, but it almost certainly won't
> result in a dismissal of the complaint. At best,
> the demurrer might be sustained as to some of the
> counts, and the plaintiff will be granted leave to
> amend. The case will keep going, with the trial
> starting on January 11, 2016.
True dat.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Fart Zilla Titty Shit666
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:36PM
Man, Michael Josef Basl of 8106 Strath Road, Henrico VA, if you can't even keep your story straight about that minor detail, I'm genuinely worried for you, brother! You have already referenced meeting a detective in Leesburg for leaving a note on their car (remember, 'Gold Kia Rio'?), your invention of saying you agreed to stop harassing them because they have an internet addiction (whom actually said that to whom, by the way...?) and they keep threatening to kill themselves...remember THAT story? What a great humanitarian you are! Always making a difference, Michael Basl. Stop driving 3 1/2 hours to leave notes on cars so a crazy person won't kill himself...you should work with Unicef.
It reads better when you leave out the part about how you hemmed and hawed and were at a loss for words except for a few dumb screen names you stupidly said to a grown-ass man with a badge and a gun, claiming it's all fart_zilla_titty_Shit1996 who made you do it. A man who solves double homicides for a living. And you sat there, sniveling, trembling, taking it like a bitch......and the best you had to say was, "S8ter_DawgTittyfuck99" is to blame!". You said a name that ridiculous to a MAN. Who solves murders. You are on a losing streak, brother.
You're forgetting your own story now, goldilocks.
...and if you want facts and proof, you know personally I've got it, big boy. Would you like the rest of the class to see?
But who cares. Let them think what they want to think. Just try not to drop the soap when your girlfriend gives you up and the pieces all come together. You're in over your head this time, boy. You had a good run, but you got sloppy. Lost your touch. Seal this envelope and answer the question written inside on your sentencing day:
"was it worth it?"
seriously.........why can't you just BE NICE? What keeps you from being a decent human being? It isn't that hard. Be a decent person. Why do these things? Really...
It reads better when you leave out the part about how you hemmed and hawed and were at a loss for words except for a few dumb screen names you stupidly said to a grown-ass man with a badge and a gun, claiming it's all fart_zilla_titty_Shit1996 who made you do it. A man who solves double homicides for a living. And you sat there, sniveling, trembling, taking it like a bitch......and the best you had to say was, "S8ter_DawgTittyfuck99" is to blame!". You said a name that ridiculous to a MAN. Who solves murders. You are on a losing streak, brother.
You're forgetting your own story now, goldilocks.
...and if you want facts and proof, you know personally I've got it, big boy. Would you like the rest of the class to see?
But who cares. Let them think what they want to think. Just try not to drop the soap when your girlfriend gives you up and the pieces all come together. You're in over your head this time, boy. You had a good run, but you got sloppy. Lost your touch. Seal this envelope and answer the question written inside on your sentencing day:
"was it worth it?"
seriously.........why can't you just BE NICE? What keeps you from being a decent human being? It isn't that hard. Be a decent person. Why do these things? Really...
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Hypocritical Hypothalamus Traits
()
Date: March 22, 2015 04:44PM
User Profile : eesh
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Jackalope
Posts: 53,021
Registered: 07/23/2009 12:10PM
Last Activity: 03/22/2015 03:35PM
"Internet addiction"
Email: Hidden
Real Name: Jackalope
Posts: 53,021
Registered: 07/23/2009 12:10PM
Last Activity: 03/22/2015 03:35PM
"Internet addiction"
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Incompetence
()
Date: March 22, 2015 05:08PM
"He can also point out how § 8.01-407.1 is very clear on how an anonymous internet commenter is brought to court, and how the lawsuit brought against the John Doe co-defendant has made no effort to follow this statute. Since John Doe is an indispensable party, the suit cannot continue against you since most of the pleadings are "and/or John Doe." Highly speculative claims as well are not allowed."
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It's unfortunate that you actually believe the suit can't go foward without TheNorthman. The plaintiffs will just go forward with everything they have on you and you alone. If anything they will re-write the suit without him included. Either way, with or without him the case against you still stands.
--
"So what can an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he can point all the claims that are barred by statues of limitations. An individual can't make claims in 2015 for statements that were made in 2012 and 2013 for starters."
--
First off, you just admitted to defaming back in 2012 and 2013. Secondly there are much more recent defaming postings written by you as early as 2014. You may think you're in the clear because the trial won't begin until 2016 but the statue is only in effect of when the postings are written. They have already been documented and filed - before the statue of limitations takes place. The defamation claims will still hold.
You are either lying about having an attorney or she/he is just as incompetent about the law as you are. In all of this we have noticed that all you have done is try to discredit anything posted about your actions and behaviors and post ways that you think that the suit will be dismissed (you already tried that once before and were unsuccessful) and not once have you offered a defense as to why you have done anything you have done here.
What is your defense?
-
It's unfortunate that you actually believe the suit can't go foward without TheNorthman. The plaintiffs will just go forward with everything they have on you and you alone. If anything they will re-write the suit without him included. Either way, with or without him the case against you still stands.
--
"So what can an awesome personal injury and medical malpractice attorney that really understands tort law do for internet defamation claims? Well, he can point all the claims that are barred by statues of limitations. An individual can't make claims in 2015 for statements that were made in 2012 and 2013 for starters."
--
First off, you just admitted to defaming back in 2012 and 2013. Secondly there are much more recent defaming postings written by you as early as 2014. You may think you're in the clear because the trial won't begin until 2016 but the statue is only in effect of when the postings are written. They have already been documented and filed - before the statue of limitations takes place. The defamation claims will still hold.
You are either lying about having an attorney or she/he is just as incompetent about the law as you are. In all of this we have noticed that all you have done is try to discredit anything posted about your actions and behaviors and post ways that you think that the suit will be dismissed (you already tried that once before and were unsuccessful) and not once have you offered a defense as to why you have done anything you have done here.
What is your defense?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Autism
()
Date: March 22, 2015 05:28PM
The biggest issue that's going to come into play is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a person he knew had developmental issues. No matter what Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not the one on trial, he did not harass a man with Asp-burgers Syndrome.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Hey Eesh!
()
Date: March 22, 2015 05:30PM
> seriously.........why can't you just BE NICE? What
> keeps you from being a decent human being? It
> isn't that hard. Be a decent person. Why do these
> things? Really...
> keeps you from being a decent human being? It
> isn't that hard. Be a decent person. Why do these
> things? Really...
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
kj3EV
()
Date: March 22, 2015 05:34PM
Autism Wrote:
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> The biggest issue that's going to come into play
> is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a person
> he knew had developmental issues. No matter what
> Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not the
> one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> Asp-burgers Syndrome.
It's Asperger's*
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> The biggest issue that's going to come into play
> is that eesh is a grown man who bullied a person
> he knew had developmental issues. No matter what
> Mr. Misery has said, done or posted he is not the
> one on trial, he did not harass a man with
> Asp-burgers Syndrome.
It's Asperger's*
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
yCUep
()
Date: March 22, 2015 05:45PM
Sue Sin Wrote:
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> http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dont-sue-un
> less-you-can-30009.html
>
>
> A court may decide in your favor, but it won't
> collect the judgment for you. So, before you sue,
> always ask yourself: Can I collect if I win? If
> you can't, think twice before filing a lawsuit.
>
> Unfortunately, in a small but significant
> percentage of situations, people and businesses
> are broke (lawyers say "judgment proof"). Or,
> they're so good at hiding their assets that even
> if you sue and win, collecting your winnings is
> likely to prove impossible
>
> Ways to Collect Judgments
> When an individual won't pay voluntarily,
> collecting your judgment can be difficult unless
> that person has:
> a job
> money in the bank, or
> real estate.
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> http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dont-sue-un
> less-you-can-30009.html
>
>
> A court may decide in your favor, but it won't
> collect the judgment for you. So, before you sue,
> always ask yourself: Can I collect if I win? If
> you can't, think twice before filing a lawsuit.
>
> Unfortunately, in a small but significant
> percentage of situations, people and businesses
> are broke (lawyers say "judgment proof"). Or,
> they're so good at hiding their assets that even
> if you sue and win, collecting your winnings is
> likely to prove impossible
>
> Ways to Collect Judgments
> When an individual won't pay voluntarily,
> collecting your judgment can be difficult unless
> that person has:
> a job
> money in the bank, or
> real estate.
bad advice from a legal help book
if you can read law, read it from a USA/VA/Virginia lawbook not some joker who published a book
do so. expect to collect.
do not back down. at least they will not be able to evade exposure for skipping court if that is what they do
from there your options widen, since after they skipped; you have legally already won and have certain legal permissions and rights
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
VXEkG
()
Date: March 22, 2015 07:17PM
Again, more people thinking they know everything and how the law works..
Why does anyone think if eesh had a lawyer that he would stop posting? Or that he doesn't have one because he is still posting?
What law is that? Misery is still posting..
And sure, Misery won't be "on trial" but Gentle Mike Brown was the murder victim but all of his indiscretions were brought up.
Just a thought.
Why does anyone think if eesh had a lawyer that he would stop posting? Or that he doesn't have one because he is still posting?
What law is that? Misery is still posting..
And sure, Misery won't be "on trial" but Gentle Mike Brown was the murder victim but all of his indiscretions were brought up.
Just a thought.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
bvP4H
()
Date: March 22, 2015 07:43PM
eesh can not afford a lawyer and has no case
miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for the jugular
if eesh has a lawyer he would post his name so we can look up his credentials
miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for the jugular
if eesh has a lawyer he would post his name so we can look up his credentials
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Law jokes
()
Date: March 22, 2015 07:51PM
"You can certainly make a counterclaim (and even a crossclaim against your co-defendant.)"
You can't.
You can't.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Fairy Mason
()
Date: March 22, 2015 08:05PM
bvP4H Wrote:
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>
> miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for
> the jugular
>
It looks more like Miz's lawyer is taking the Moreno family for a ride.
I bet he only took the case for experience, and to squeeze a few bucks out of some sucker clients that couldn't get anyone else with a right mind to represent them.
When it all falls apart he'll just shrug his shoulders and say "yeah well I thought we really had a good case bla bla the judge is a moron bla bla now pay me please, or I'm going to sue YOU."
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>
> miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for
> the jugular
>
It looks more like Miz's lawyer is taking the Moreno family for a ride.
I bet he only took the case for experience, and to squeeze a few bucks out of some sucker clients that couldn't get anyone else with a right mind to represent them.
When it all falls apart he'll just shrug his shoulders and say "yeah well I thought we really had a good case bla bla the judge is a moron bla bla now pay me please, or I'm going to sue YOU."
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: March 22, 2015 08:49PM
Fairy Mason Wrote:
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> bvP4H Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for
> > the jugular
> >
>
>
> It looks more like Miz's lawyer is taking the
> Moreno family for a ride.
> I bet he only took the case for experience, and to
> squeeze a few bucks out of some sucker clients
> that couldn't get anyone else with a right mind to
> represent them.
> When it all falls apart he'll just shrug his
> shoulders and say "yeah well I thought we really
> had a good case bla bla the judge is a moron bla
> bla now pay me please, or I'm going to sue YOU."
LOL
Well, I won't comment on that specifically, but when I called various lawyers when in Northern Virginia right after I was served, they checked their client and consultation history to ensure there was no conflict of interest.
Apparently, the mother had called all the lawyers I talked to a few weeks earlier, NO ONE wanted to take their case.
Imagine if you were an attorney, and someone came in talking about wanting to sue a person because they swear up and down someone scraped a decal off a windshield and moved it to another part of the windshield. They swear that a pipe in the basement that froze in the winter was the result of some boogeyman that vandalized a washing machine to flood the basement.
Seriously LOL stuff.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2015 08:51PM by eesh.
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> bvP4H Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > miz has a so so lawyer but one that will go for
> > the jugular
> >
>
>
> It looks more like Miz's lawyer is taking the
> Moreno family for a ride.
> I bet he only took the case for experience, and to
> squeeze a few bucks out of some sucker clients
> that couldn't get anyone else with a right mind to
> represent them.
> When it all falls apart he'll just shrug his
> shoulders and say "yeah well I thought we really
> had a good case bla bla the judge is a moron bla
> bla now pay me please, or I'm going to sue YOU."
LOL
Well, I won't comment on that specifically, but when I called various lawyers when in Northern Virginia right after I was served, they checked their client and consultation history to ensure there was no conflict of interest.
Apparently, the mother had called all the lawyers I talked to a few weeks earlier, NO ONE wanted to take their case.
Imagine if you were an attorney, and someone came in talking about wanting to sue a person because they swear up and down someone scraped a decal off a windshield and moved it to another part of the windshield. They swear that a pipe in the basement that froze in the winter was the result of some boogeyman that vandalized a washing machine to flood the basement.
Seriously LOL stuff.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/22/2015 08:51PM by eesh.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Discrepancies
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:02PM
So..did they call or walk in?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
marapet
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:07PM
You see?
Lol, that's my boy, eesh!
And the jury's going to believe eesh just like the judge did last week.
They'll look at him and say there's a man I can trust!
Yes, he drove for a few hours and a few hundred miles to stick a note on Miz's car,
and admitted doing that (because a mean police detective scared him ... is that fair??!?!)
... but that doesn't mean he did all the other stuff he HASN'T admitted!
................................... or does it??????
Lol, that's my boy, eesh!
And the jury's going to believe eesh just like the judge did last week.
They'll look at him and say there's a man I can trust!
Yes, he drove for a few hours and a few hundred miles to stick a note on Miz's car,
and admitted doing that (because a mean police detective scared him ... is that fair??!?!)
... but that doesn't mean he did all the other stuff he HASN'T admitted!
................................... or does it??????
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Name Names
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:09PM
Eesh Who Is Your Lawyer?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
marapet
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:09PM
It's not as those he has a weird affect,
or comes across like a creep
whom nobody
least of all or judge or a jury member
trusts,
is it?
or comes across like a creep
whom nobody
least of all or judge or a jury member
trusts,
is it?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
jumUd
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:11PM
how would you know they had a frozen pipe lol are you just speculating or were you in their home to know that and broke the washing machine thinking you could blame it on the frozen pipe that you saw while in their house?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Weird affect?
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:13PM
eesh?
Don't make me laugh...................
Everybody loves eesh.
He's the warm, cuddly type.
And he never looks at the ground when he's talking to you.
He always stares straight into your eyes -- and he never blinks!
Don't make me laugh...................
Everybody loves eesh.
He's the warm, cuddly type.
And he never looks at the ground when he's talking to you.
He always stares straight into your eyes -- and he never blinks!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Seriously LOL stuff
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:14PM
eesh..if you called all the lawyers they called that means NO ONE wanted to take your case either..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Good catch
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:21PM
Seriously LOL stuff Wrote:
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> eesh..if you called all the lawyers they called
> that means NO ONE wanted to take your case
> either..
+1
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> eesh..if you called all the lawyers they called
> that means NO ONE wanted to take your case
> either..
+1
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
The "Boogeyman" Defense!
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:26PM
eesh Wrote:
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> the result of some boogeyman that vandalized a washing
> machine to flood the basement.
Eesh's "boogeyman" defense!
It's perfect!
It's just so persuasive!
Just like his "FagCity99" argument!
That was super-persuasive, wasn't it, eesh?
Eesh is a really good arguer type!
Not as good as he is at stalking, but still, pretty darn good!
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> the result of some boogeyman that vandalized a washing
> machine to flood the basement.
Eesh's "boogeyman" defense!
It's perfect!
It's just so persuasive!
Just like his "FagCity99" argument!
That was super-persuasive, wasn't it, eesh?
Eesh is a really good arguer type!
Not as good as he is at stalking, but still, pretty darn good!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
this again
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:28PM
the fact that you even had to get a lawyer means you are losing
having to spend money because of mr misery is the worst thing ever
wanted to get rid of him and ended up having to deal with him even more
having to spend money because of mr misery is the worst thing ever
wanted to get rid of him and ended up having to deal with him even more
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Roy Cohn
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:35PM
Seriously LOL stuff Wrote:
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> eesh..if you called all the lawyers they called
> that means NO ONE wanted to take your case
> either..
Only an idiot wouldn't call at least ten lawyers.
And there's a big difference between some loser calling every name in the book because they want to sue somebody over bogus claims, and someone who is getting sued that wants to shop around.
Every lawyer the Morenos contacted realized in about two minutes they didn't want to waste their time with that bag of squirrel shit. And the guy that did decide to represent them already knows they are going to lose, but fuck it I'm the new guy let me shake some coin out of these suckers so I can upgrade from this Buick dad got me to a 328i or something.
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> eesh..if you called all the lawyers they called
> that means NO ONE wanted to take your case
> either..
Only an idiot wouldn't call at least ten lawyers.
And there's a big difference between some loser calling every name in the book because they want to sue somebody over bogus claims, and someone who is getting sued that wants to shop around.
Every lawyer the Morenos contacted realized in about two minutes they didn't want to waste their time with that bag of squirrel shit. And the guy that did decide to represent them already knows they are going to lose, but fuck it I'm the new guy let me shake some coin out of these suckers so I can upgrade from this Buick dad got me to a 328i or something.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Seriously LOL stuff
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:38PM
uh huhhhhh..when you can post from your eesh name we can talk about why you called so many lawyers and still ended up representing yourself in court..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:49PM
When you answer the plaintiffs' pleadings, you have to admit, deny, or deny for lack of information or knowledge. Your response has to be numbered to match their allegations, and you can place your affirmative defenses within the responsive pleadings or after the list of admitting or denying.
I'm not going to post everything, but here's a taste of what my lawyer and I came up with. My lawyer filed a lot of motions, I'll scan them when this all over with.
Anyway, here's a sample of what they will be reading next week. First, their complaint, followed by my response.
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Attachments:
I'm not going to post everything, but here's a taste of what my lawyer and I came up with. My lawyer filed a lot of motions, I'll scan them when this all over with.
Anyway, here's a sample of what they will be reading next week. First, their complaint, followed by my response.
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Attachments:
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
EXUxm
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:54PM
LMAO!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
WORD.docs
()
Date: March 22, 2015 09:57PM
Anyone can type up something on Word and post it..
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Fishy Fish
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:03PM
eesh Wrote:
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> When you answer the plaintiffs' pleadings, you
> have to admit, deny, or deny for lack of
> information or knowledge. Your response has to be
> numbered to match their allegations, and you can
> place your affirmative defenses within the
> responsive pleadings or after the list of
> admitting or denying.
>
>
>
> I'm not going to post everything, but here's a
> taste of what my lawyer and I came up with. My
> lawyer filed a lot of motions, I'll scan them when
> this all over with.
>
>
>
> Anyway, here's a sample of what they will be
> reading next week. First, their complaint,
> followed by my response.
> -
You can post everything else including the VINE booklets but you can't even post your response to the suit, that's a bit fishy. Seems like that'd be something you'd love to brag about here. At least post the part where you awesome lawyer signs the papers! Heck, you can even black out his/her name if you don't want anyone to know who's representing you.
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> When you answer the plaintiffs' pleadings, you
> have to admit, deny, or deny for lack of
> information or knowledge. Your response has to be
> numbered to match their allegations, and you can
> place your affirmative defenses within the
> responsive pleadings or after the list of
> admitting or denying.
>
>
>
> I'm not going to post everything, but here's a
> taste of what my lawyer and I came up with. My
> lawyer filed a lot of motions, I'll scan them when
> this all over with.
>
>
>
> Anyway, here's a sample of what they will be
> reading next week. First, their complaint,
> followed by my response.
> -
You can post everything else including the VINE booklets but you can't even post your response to the suit, that's a bit fishy. Seems like that'd be something you'd love to brag about here. At least post the part where you awesome lawyer signs the papers! Heck, you can even black out his/her name if you don't want anyone to know who's representing you.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
delusions and illusions
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:10PM
please stop posting about this, eesh - you have been caught in several lies already and no one believes you have a lawyer - everything you do and say is phony and a smoke in mirrors trick that isn't fooling anyone here
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
toofunny
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:18PM
this again Wrote:
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> the fact that you even had to get a lawyer means
> you are losing
> having to spend money because of mr misery is the
> worst thing ever
> wanted to get rid of him and ended up having to
> deal with him even more
^^^^^this!!!!!
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> the fact that you even had to get a lawyer means
> you are losing
> having to spend money because of mr misery is the
> worst thing ever
> wanted to get rid of him and ended up having to
> deal with him even more
^^^^^this!!!!!
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Fatal Attraction
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:31PM
No one ever thought that maybe eesh really actually liked Mr. Misery and that's why he did all of this? There's no way you can spend so many years researching and obsessing over someone and going by their house if you didn't like them. It seems like it is a clear case of unrequited love and eesh will be able to get out of this because he was obviously love sick over Mr. Misery.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Motion to Quash?
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:38PM
You weren't served properly, right?
And you so testified, and apparently submitted some sort of motion along those lines?
Were you just making all that shit up, and then realized you'd be in even deeper shit if you kept trying to pimp those lies?
Or, if the facts backed your story, why drop the motion to quash?
And you so testified, and apparently submitted some sort of motion along those lines?
Were you just making all that shit up, and then realized you'd be in even deeper shit if you kept trying to pimp those lies?
Or, if the facts backed your story, why drop the motion to quash?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
...
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:42PM
Fatal Attraction Wrote:
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> No one ever thought that maybe eesh really
> actually liked Mr. Misery and that's why he did
> all of this? There's no way you can spend so many
> years researching and obsessing over someone and
> going by their house if you didn't like them. It
> seems like it is a clear case of unrequited love
> and eesh will be able to get out of this because
> he was obviously love sick over Mr. Misery.
time to stop researching others and start researching himself and find out why he thinks it's okay to do this type of thing to people he doesn't know and have never wronged him in any way
-------------------------------------------------------
> No one ever thought that maybe eesh really
> actually liked Mr. Misery and that's why he did
> all of this? There's no way you can spend so many
> years researching and obsessing over someone and
> going by their house if you didn't like them. It
> seems like it is a clear case of unrequited love
> and eesh will be able to get out of this because
> he was obviously love sick over Mr. Misery.
time to stop researching others and start researching himself and find out why he thinks it's okay to do this type of thing to people he doesn't know and have never wronged him in any way
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
4bPht
()
Date: March 22, 2015 10:48PM
We had a case some years ago — before Ely v. Whitlock was decided — that makes this point. In that case, a woman was being followed by a love-sick older man. She didn’t want his attentions, and she told him that, but he persisted. She practically had a nervous breakdown.
This was a case that was being brought in federal court because there was also a claim of sex discrimination in the workplace, but the federal courts threw out our claim of an intentional infliction of emotional distress, ruling that the older man’s actions were not intended to cause the younger woman distress — he was doing what he was doing out of misplaced, and unrequited, love.
http://www.snookandhaughey.com/practice-areas/personal-injury/intentional-infliction-of-emotional-distress/
This was a case that was being brought in federal court because there was also a claim of sex discrimination in the workplace, but the federal courts threw out our claim of an intentional infliction of emotional distress, ruling that the older man’s actions were not intended to cause the younger woman distress — he was doing what he was doing out of misplaced, and unrequited, love.
http://www.snookandhaughey.com/practice-areas/personal-injury/intentional-infliction-of-emotional-distress/
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
OP and his threads
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:00PM
Eesh idolized Mr. Misery and wanted to be just like him. He was envious of the attention Mr. Misery received here and wanted him gone because of it. He has always been in completion with other people in life, except the other person isn't aware of it. He wanted to be the number 1 poster and wanted to be "Mr. Shock-value". Now Eesh posts threads and no one even replies.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
giphy
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:13PM
OP and his threads Wrote:
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> Eesh idolized Mr. Misery and wanted to be just
> like him. He was envious of the attention Mr.
> Misery received here and wanted him gone because
> of it. He has always been in completion with other
> people in life, except the other person isn't
> aware of it. He wanted to be the number 1 poster
> and wanted to be "Mr. Shock-value". Now Eesh posts
> threads and no one even replies.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eesh idolized Mr. Misery and wanted to be just
> like him. He was envious of the attention Mr.
> Misery received here and wanted him gone because
> of it. He has always been in completion with other
> people in life, except the other person isn't
> aware of it. He wanted to be the number 1 poster
> and wanted to be "Mr. Shock-value". Now Eesh posts
> threads and no one even replies.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Deal?
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:17PM
Maybe eesh made a deal?
He exchanged his expert stalking/gaslighting services for a certain number of hours of the lawyer's time?
He exchanged his expert stalking/gaslighting services for a certain number of hours of the lawyer's time?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
long time lurker...
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:26PM
OP and his threads Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eesh idolized Mr. Misery and wanted to be just
> like him. He was envious of the attention Mr.
> Misery received here and wanted him gone because
> of it. He has always been in completion with other
> people in life, except the other person isn't
> aware of it. He wanted to be the number 1 poster
> and wanted to be "Mr. Shock-value". Now Eesh posts
> threads and no one even replies.
+ 100000000
Eesh obsessed over Misery.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Eesh idolized Mr. Misery and wanted to be just
> like him. He was envious of the attention Mr.
> Misery received here and wanted him gone because
> of it. He has always been in completion with other
> people in life, except the other person isn't
> aware of it. He wanted to be the number 1 poster
> and wanted to be "Mr. Shock-value". Now Eesh posts
> threads and no one even replies.
+ 100000000
Eesh obsessed over Misery.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
"eesh"
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:38PM
Eesh obsesses over posters whom he perceives as weak (Meade, Chuck, Miz, Patrick), and posters who throw down the gauntlet (Eli, JBass).
There is no love in any of this.
It is all driven by a compulsion to satisfy his sociopathic need to bully, control, and play mind games.
There is no love in any of this.
It is all driven by a compulsion to satisfy his sociopathic need to bully, control, and play mind games.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
NFKLT
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:42PM
Why?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
x4YhM
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:53PM
Why...?
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Prophet of e
()
Date: March 22, 2015 11:55PM
This has been a social experiment by eesh, don't you see? Miz fell into his trap and became a very unfortunate test subject.
Miz is not smart, or even slightly cunning.
Miz gets beat by a county fair chicken playing tic-tac-toe while eesh teaches Deep Blue how to play chess.
This story is going viral, and when it's all over everyone in the world will see eesh as a maestro of manipulation, and the Morenos as; well, morons.
Miz is not smart, or even slightly cunning.
Miz gets beat by a county fair chicken playing tic-tac-toe while eesh teaches Deep Blue how to play chess.
This story is going viral, and when it's all over everyone in the world will see eesh as a maestro of manipulation, and the Morenos as; well, morons.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
eesh
()
Date: March 23, 2015 12:43AM
4bPht Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> We had a case some years ago — before Ely v.
> Whitlock was decided — that makes this point.
> In that case, a woman was being followed by a
> love-sick older man. She didn’t want his
> attentions, and she told him that, but he
> persisted. She practically had a nervous
> breakdown.
>
> This was a case that was being brought in federal
> court because there was also a claim of sex
> discrimination in the workplace, but the federal
> courts threw out our claim of an intentional
> infliction of emotional distress, ruling that the
> older man’s actions were not intended to cause
> the younger woman distress — he was doing what
> he was doing out of misplaced, and unrequited,
> love.
Oh yes, the emotional distress claims. Courts especially don't like emotional distress claims because of how easy they are to exaggerate.
Good thing I hired a personal injury attorney that understands tort law instead of a general practitioner...
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Attachments:
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> We had a case some years ago — before Ely v.
> Whitlock was decided — that makes this point.
> In that case, a woman was being followed by a
> love-sick older man. She didn’t want his
> attentions, and she told him that, but he
> persisted. She practically had a nervous
> breakdown.
>
> This was a case that was being brought in federal
> court because there was also a claim of sex
> discrimination in the workplace, but the federal
> courts threw out our claim of an intentional
> infliction of emotional distress, ruling that the
> older man’s actions were not intended to cause
> the younger woman distress — he was doing what
> he was doing out of misplaced, and unrequited,
> love.
Oh yes, the emotional distress claims. Courts especially don't like emotional distress claims because of how easy they are to exaggerate.
Good thing I hired a personal injury attorney that understands tort law instead of a general practitioner...
-
Attachments:
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Mental Case
()
Date: March 23, 2015 12:50AM
"Good thing I hired a personal injury attorney that understands tort law instead of a general practitioner..."
You keep saying this over and over again. Are you trying to convince everyone else that you can afford a lawyer or just yourself? No one believes you.
You keep saying this over and over again. Are you trying to convince everyone else that you can afford a lawyer or just yourself? No one believes you.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
FCPb4
()
Date: March 23, 2015 12:53AM
LOL
eesh will pay, keep up the pretending though mikey
eesh will pay, keep up the pretending though mikey
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
mWYGT
()
Date: March 23, 2015 12:54AM
why not discuss the judge THROWING OUT YOUR CASE AGAINST MIZ?
that was hysterical
that was hysterical
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Lose lose situation for fag eesh
()
Date: March 23, 2015 12:59AM
If he Is lying and didn't hire a lawyer, he's going to get raped in court.
If he hired a lawyer than he is spending a lot of money, which he won't get back. Which means eesh = losing.
If he hired a lawyer than he is spending a lot of money, which he won't get back. Which means eesh = losing.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Court Observer says..
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:03AM
"Eesh appeared confused about the legalities of the situation he is in and of what he needs to do in order to defend himself, saying several times that he has no legal training; that he is attending school on the GI Bill and has no money for attorneys; and that he had consulted an attorney who wanted $10,000 from him to take the case, which he did not have."
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
bCkyb
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:15AM
mWYGT Wrote:
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> why not discuss the judge THROWING OUT YOUR CASE
> AGAINST MIZ?
>
> that was hysterical
Re: Sterling man arrested for allegedly harassing FFXU member
Posted by: Spoofer ()
Date: February 10, 2015 06:22PM
Michael Basl obtained the IP address of William through IP tracking. Spoofed William's IP address and sent harassing messages to himself.
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> why not discuss the judge THROWING OUT YOUR CASE
> AGAINST MIZ?
>
> that was hysterical
Re: Sterling man arrested for allegedly harassing FFXU member
Posted by: Spoofer ()
Date: February 10, 2015 06:22PM
Michael Basl obtained the IP address of William through IP tracking. Spoofed William's IP address and sent harassing messages to himself.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Blue Velvet
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:17AM
I'll wager that the Morenos will be broke before the court date and unable to continue anyway.
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
"Goodnight"
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:20AM
Blue Velvet Wrote:
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> I'll wager that the Morenos will be broke before
> the court date and unable to continue anyway.
In your dreams, Michael
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> I'll wager that the Morenos will be broke before
> the court date and unable to continue anyway.
In your dreams, Michael
Re: Don't Sue Unless You Can Collect the Judgment
Posted by:
Krusty the Sock
()
Date: March 23, 2015 01:31AM
"Goodnight" Wrote:
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> Blue Velvet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'll wager that the Morenos will be broke
> before
> > the court date and unable to continue anyway.
>
>
> In your dreams, Michael
Goodnight, William.
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> Blue Velvet Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'll wager that the Morenos will be broke
> before
> > the court date and unable to continue anyway.
>
>
> In your dreams, Michael
Goodnight, William.