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SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball Fan
()
Date: April 20, 2009 05:39AM
Sitting in the stands during a WestSpringfield and South County HS varsity game the following happened:
The player for South County struck out, then went ballistic by throwing his equipment and yelling at the top of his lungs Goddamnit, Goddamnit, Goddamnit.
The umpire told the coach that this player was out of control.
What was not done: The varsity coach for South County did nothing. The player was not removed from the game and played the field the next inning.
This was a total disgrace for high school sports and should not happen in front of players, adults and their children.
The player for South County struck out, then went ballistic by throwing his equipment and yelling at the top of his lungs Goddamnit, Goddamnit, Goddamnit.
The umpire told the coach that this player was out of control.
What was not done: The varsity coach for South County did nothing. The player was not removed from the game and played the field the next inning.
This was a total disgrace for high school sports and should not happen in front of players, adults and their children.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dahshiznat
()
Date: April 20, 2009 06:00AM
Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The coaches don't play players based on their skills and attitudes alone, but based on other things such as name, reputation and parents contributions such as coaching, boosters and concession stand volunteering. Brown nosing?
Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching varsity. I played under him and his current assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching varsity. I played under him and his current assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Eastsider
()
Date: April 20, 2009 06:11AM
Why didn't the ump just run him for arguing balls & strikes?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Favorites play at South County
()
Date: April 20, 2009 06:44AM
I think the real problem is the varsity coach Mark Luther. He plays favorites and one of his assistant has a son who plays on the varsity and starts as a junior.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Clobbersaurus
()
Date: April 20, 2009 07:17AM
Eastsider Wrote:
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> Why didn't the ump just run him for arguing balls
> & strikes?
This.
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> Why didn't the ump just run him for arguing balls
> & strikes?
This.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
umm hello?
()
Date: April 20, 2009 07:23AM
why is the piece of shit crying after being struck out? what is he, 6?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Captain
()
Date: April 20, 2009 07:48AM
umm hello? Wrote:
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> why is the piece of shit crying after being struck
> out? what is he, 6?
No he is 18 and the teams captain. What a role model?
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> why is the piece of shit crying after being struck
> out? what is he, 6?
No he is 18 and the teams captain. What a role model?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: April 20, 2009 08:34AM
Yeah, ump should have ejected him if he thought it was that big a deal. That is an officiating error if anything... the coach can put in whoever he damn well wants unless the ump says so.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ernie
()
Date: April 20, 2009 09:31AM
Was he yelling at the umpire or was he just mad about striking out? I watch a lot of High School games. Not really that unusual. Not that I condone it though.
If it was my kid I would have pulled him out myself.
The part about playing favorites, welcome to High School sports. That problem is rampant. I saw it when I played in HS and now 30 years later. You really have to wonder if there is money being paid under the table. Not saying there is though.
If it was my kid I would have pulled him out myself.
The part about playing favorites, welcome to High School sports. That problem is rampant. I saw it when I played in HS and now 30 years later. You really have to wonder if there is money being paid under the table. Not saying there is though.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Upset Parents
()
Date: April 20, 2009 09:51AM
To: Jane.Lipp@fcps.edu
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
As a parent of a player, how is it that, the captain of the Varsity baseball team(Seth Jordan)can scream at the top of his lungs (God damn-it 3 times) throw his helmet in the dugout, be warned by the umpire (Directly to Coach Townsend) and still play in the game and the following game against Bishop Ireton? I'm sure I am not the only parent that has brought this to the schools attention.
I am appalled at what coaches do (or in most cases don't do) to protect there better players. This is totally unacceptable behavior from the player and even worse unacceptable leadership from Coach Luther and Townsend who did nothing and does nothing to Seth Jordan.
What is the schools responsibility?
A very angry parent who at the moment won't reveal a name due to retaliation against our son. What's right is right. Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a captain (allow Digby the role) and the coaches are weak to stand up and apply values and rules that reflect the baseball team, players and families. How embarrassing to sit in the stands and witness a horrible act of stupidity. West Springfield parents aren't happy either. This is not the end.
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
As a parent of a player, how is it that, the captain of the Varsity baseball team(Seth Jordan)can scream at the top of his lungs (God damn-it 3 times) throw his helmet in the dugout, be warned by the umpire (Directly to Coach Townsend) and still play in the game and the following game against Bishop Ireton? I'm sure I am not the only parent that has brought this to the schools attention.
I am appalled at what coaches do (or in most cases don't do) to protect there better players. This is totally unacceptable behavior from the player and even worse unacceptable leadership from Coach Luther and Townsend who did nothing and does nothing to Seth Jordan.
What is the schools responsibility?
A very angry parent who at the moment won't reveal a name due to retaliation against our son. What's right is right. Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a captain (allow Digby the role) and the coaches are weak to stand up and apply values and rules that reflect the baseball team, players and families. How embarrassing to sit in the stands and witness a horrible act of stupidity. West Springfield parents aren't happy either. This is not the end.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HEJhn
()
Date: April 20, 2009 09:55AM
ernie Wrote:
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> The part about playing favorites, welcome to High
> School sports. That problem is rampant.
I think you mean welcome to the real world. Everyone plays favorites. Sometimes the favorite is the best performer, sometimes the favorite is the brown-noser.
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> The part about playing favorites, welcome to High
> School sports. That problem is rampant.
I think you mean welcome to the real world. Everyone plays favorites. Sometimes the favorite is the best performer, sometimes the favorite is the brown-noser.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
MrMephisto
()
Date: April 20, 2009 10:03AM
Favorites play at South County Wrote:
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> I think the real problem is the varsity coach Mark
> Luther. He plays favorites and one of his
> assistant has a son who plays on the varsity and
> starts as a junior.
At last, we get to the point of this thread.
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13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
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> I think the real problem is the varsity coach Mark
> Luther. He plays favorites and one of his
> assistant has a son who plays on the varsity and
> starts as a junior.
At last, we get to the point of this thread.
--------------------------------------------------------------
13 4826 0948 82695 25847. Yes.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
meh
()
Date: April 20, 2009 10:23AM
heres a thought....
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK....
Attachments:
WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK....
Attachments:
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
show the video
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Date: April 20, 2009 10:26AM
I am sure West Springfield has tape of the incident-that would be a great UTube clip. Maybe then FCPS and Bill Curran will be so humiliated that they will do something.
Some of these coaches and players are out of control and reflect badly on our schools. At a girl's soccer game a few wek's back, the Stuart coach was ejected by the ref, he stayed behind the visiting bleachers continuing to shout and the ref had to stop theplay again. Finally, the home team's football coach, who was attending the game, had to escort the lunatice out to the parking lot.
This is the example we set for our students? As long as FCPS soed nothing to punish the nuts, then it will continue to get worse.
Some of these coaches and players are out of control and reflect badly on our schools. At a girl's soccer game a few wek's back, the Stuart coach was ejected by the ref, he stayed behind the visiting bleachers continuing to shout and the ref had to stop theplay again. Finally, the home team's football coach, who was attending the game, had to escort the lunatice out to the parking lot.
This is the example we set for our students? As long as FCPS soed nothing to punish the nuts, then it will continue to get worse.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Welcome to Serious Athletics
()
Date: April 20, 2009 10:44AM
I think that everyone is blowing this WAY out of proportion. High school or not when you get to a certain level as a player the game takes on a new meaning for you. Most of the time serious players do well to internalize their emotions however even the best of us let them slip out every now and again, and it isn't always pretty. As an umpire he did the right thing, gave a WARNING. As a coach, during the course of a game, he did the right thing as well and it isn't about favorites. As a coach you want your players to be intense, to care about their performance and to be angry when they don't perform well. During the course of the game, unless the kid is going to physically hurt someone, you do nothing. You let the kid ride that intensity for the balance of the game. After the game is over you pull the kid aside and use that time as teaching time.
Like it or not, EVERYONE's kid on that field that day, whether SOCO or West Springfield, has had a moment like that on the field or in the dugout, whether at practice when you the parent aren't there to see what happens or during a game and people just didn't happen to notice. A reaction of such isn't going to poison the game for these kids, they understand the emotion of the game and will chalk it up to just that. It's the parents who need to realize that they aren't watching a bunch of 12 year olds out there playing to just have fun anymore. The kids are out there solely to WIN. The only way that they will have fun is to WIN. There is no consolation prize, second place is just the first loser. You should appreciate the fact that the team CAPTAIN cares so much about his team, which your kid is a part of, that he is pissed that he failed to produce results when it was his time.
Like it or not, EVERYONE's kid on that field that day, whether SOCO or West Springfield, has had a moment like that on the field or in the dugout, whether at practice when you the parent aren't there to see what happens or during a game and people just didn't happen to notice. A reaction of such isn't going to poison the game for these kids, they understand the emotion of the game and will chalk it up to just that. It's the parents who need to realize that they aren't watching a bunch of 12 year olds out there playing to just have fun anymore. The kids are out there solely to WIN. The only way that they will have fun is to WIN. There is no consolation prize, second place is just the first loser. You should appreciate the fact that the team CAPTAIN cares so much about his team, which your kid is a part of, that he is pissed that he failed to produce results when it was his time.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Fan
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:13AM
Life is about failure and how you deal with each one. Even if you bat 500 you are making out half the time. Does this give you the right to blow up each time you make out because you want to win? NO
Play the game.
Play the game.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dahshiznat
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:21AM
Upset Parents Wrote:
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> To: Jane.Lipp@fcps.edu
> Sent: 4/20/2009
> Subj: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
>
>
> Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a
> captain (allow Digby the role) and the coaches are
> weak to stand up and apply values and rules that
> reflect the baseball team, players and families.
I have been a teammate of both of these players and the event I'm hearing about doesn't surprise me one bit. I'm glad Digby's good attitude is recognized by someone.
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> To: Jane.Lipp@fcps.edu
> Sent: 4/20/2009
> Subj: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
>
>
> Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a
> captain (allow Digby the role) and the coaches are
> weak to stand up and apply values and rules that
> reflect the baseball team, players and families.
I have been a teammate of both of these players and the event I'm hearing about doesn't surprise me one bit. I'm glad Digby's good attitude is recognized by someone.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Welcome to Serious Athletics
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:25AM
I never said it gave you the right to blow up every time and I bet this player has NOT blown up every time, but once in a while is acceptable and shouldn't be made a spectacle of.
I don't care if you bat .500, you are still going to be pissed off and angry each and every time that you don't get a hit. That is a part of being an SERIOUS athlete. As a hitter, you have the mind set that you are going to get a hit EVERY time that you step to the plate so when you don't you are pissed. The same goes for a pitcher, you expect to get every batter you face out and when you don't you are pissed. That is how you become better. You take the anger of your failures and are motivated to fix them so you work hard to do so.
I don't care if you bat .500, you are still going to be pissed off and angry each and every time that you don't get a hit. That is a part of being an SERIOUS athlete. As a hitter, you have the mind set that you are going to get a hit EVERY time that you step to the plate so when you don't you are pissed. The same goes for a pitcher, you expect to get every batter you face out and when you don't you are pissed. That is how you become better. You take the anger of your failures and are motivated to fix them so you work hard to do so.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luther has a track record
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:27AM
Bullshit...this is HS sports, not college or the pros, where kids are effectively paid to produce. Obscenities uttered on the basketball court get technical fouls...EVERY TIME!
And it falls to the feet of the head coach to define acceptable behavior ON THE FIELD OF PLAY!
Luther himself is an obscenity-screaming nutcase; witness last year's Regional Tournament game againt Madison. Luther was out of the dugout, arguing balls and strikes the entire game, as well as any call that went against his team. He got "restricted to the dugout" by the home plate umpire for one set of protests, but his agonized screams of "thats a bullshit call" and " thats goddamn BULLSHIT, ump" were heard throughout the game by the Madison fans AND HIS OWN FANS RIGHT NEXT TO HIS DUGOUT.
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/1483966351.html?dids=1483966351:1483966351&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+24%2C+2008&author=Preston+Williams+-+Washington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Washington+Post&edition=&startpage=E.8&desc=Stallions+Triumph+In+Testy+Rematch (sorry, the Post archives doesnt print the whole article, by Preston Williams)
He had his headcase stud pitcher throwing that game too (drafted by the Orioles 3 weeks later in the subterrean rounds). On his second at-bat, he gets a curve ball in the dirt that bounces and hits him in the ankle..HBP (clearly not an attempt at plunkin the guy). Of course, the kid, being the head case he is, trots to first glaring at the Madison pitcher the whole way, etc etc.. So what does he do upon returning to the mound the next inning? Plants a 90 mph fastball in the back of the first Madison hitter. Dont tell me that wasnt done with the support and knowledge of Luther--you all know it was.
The behavior of Lither and SOCO, esp. their pitcher, was bad enough the entire game that they were escorted to their bus by the Madison AD, who's one of the most mild-mannered guys you'd ever meet. Oh, and by the way, the GODDAMMIT * 3 kid in this years story--was right there, as a SOCO Jr starter--watching the Pitcher/Luther diatribes and soaking up the "how to behave as a SOCO baseball player" lessons that Luther was dishing out.
I've got nothing against team spirit and wanting to win--dont get me wrong. HS coaches dont last long if they lose, just like the levels above them. At the same time, obscenities and vulgarity, in words and behavior, have no place in HS sports--EVER.
What I dont understand is why the SOCO parents and admin put up with this douchebag--most schools would have run his ass outta town already!
And it falls to the feet of the head coach to define acceptable behavior ON THE FIELD OF PLAY!
Luther himself is an obscenity-screaming nutcase; witness last year's Regional Tournament game againt Madison. Luther was out of the dugout, arguing balls and strikes the entire game, as well as any call that went against his team. He got "restricted to the dugout" by the home plate umpire for one set of protests, but his agonized screams of "thats a bullshit call" and " thats goddamn BULLSHIT, ump" were heard throughout the game by the Madison fans AND HIS OWN FANS RIGHT NEXT TO HIS DUGOUT.
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/1483966351.html?dids=1483966351:1483966351&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+24%2C+2008&author=Preston+Williams+-+Washington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Washington+Post&edition=&startpage=E.8&desc=Stallions+Triumph+In+Testy+Rematch (sorry, the Post archives doesnt print the whole article, by Preston Williams)
He had his headcase stud pitcher throwing that game too (drafted by the Orioles 3 weeks later in the subterrean rounds). On his second at-bat, he gets a curve ball in the dirt that bounces and hits him in the ankle..HBP (clearly not an attempt at plunkin the guy). Of course, the kid, being the head case he is, trots to first glaring at the Madison pitcher the whole way, etc etc.. So what does he do upon returning to the mound the next inning? Plants a 90 mph fastball in the back of the first Madison hitter. Dont tell me that wasnt done with the support and knowledge of Luther--you all know it was.
The behavior of Lither and SOCO, esp. their pitcher, was bad enough the entire game that they were escorted to their bus by the Madison AD, who's one of the most mild-mannered guys you'd ever meet. Oh, and by the way, the GODDAMMIT * 3 kid in this years story--was right there, as a SOCO Jr starter--watching the Pitcher/Luther diatribes and soaking up the "how to behave as a SOCO baseball player" lessons that Luther was dishing out.
I've got nothing against team spirit and wanting to win--dont get me wrong. HS coaches dont last long if they lose, just like the levels above them. At the same time, obscenities and vulgarity, in words and behavior, have no place in HS sports--EVER.
What I dont understand is why the SOCO parents and admin put up with this douchebag--most schools would have run his ass outta town already!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:46AM
Looks like Mark Luther is the 7th grade principal too, in addition to the HS baseball coach?
http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with THAT can-o-worms?
Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this story.....
(WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with THAT can-o-worms?
Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this story.....
(WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Fire Luther
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:03PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Looks like Mark Luther is the 7th grade principal
> too, in addition to the HS baseball coach?
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
>
>
> Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with
> THAT can-o-worms?
>
> Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this
> story.....
>
> (WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
Where is the zero tolerance for this out of control coach. Mark Luther has a long track record of being out of control at both Hayfield and SOCO.
Jane Lipp now is the time to get rid of this poor excuss for a coach.
Fire his butt.
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> Looks like Mark Luther is the 7th grade principal
> too, in addition to the HS baseball coach?
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
>
>
> Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with
> THAT can-o-worms?
>
> Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this
> story.....
>
> (WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
Where is the zero tolerance for this out of control coach. Mark Luther has a long track record of being out of control at both Hayfield and SOCO.
Jane Lipp now is the time to get rid of this poor excuss for a coach.
Fire his butt.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
More info
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:28PM
Luther has a track record Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bullshit...this is HS sports, not college or the
> pros, where kids are effectively paid to produce.
> Obscenities uttered on the basketball court get
> technical fouls...EVERY TIME!
>
> And it falls to the feet of the head coach to
> define acceptable behavior ON THE FIELD OF PLAY!
>
> Luther himself is an obscenity-screaming nutcase;
> witness last year's Regional Tournament game
> againt Madison. Luther was out of the dugout,
> arguing balls and strikes the entire game, as well
> as any call that went against his team. He got
> "restricted to the dugout" by the home plate
> umpire for one set of protests, but his agonized
> screams of "thats a bullshit call" and " thats
> goddamn BULLSHIT, ump" were heard throughout the
> game by the Madison fans AND HIS OWN FANS RIGHT
> NEXT TO HIS DUGOUT.
>
> http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/
> 1483966351.html?dids=1483966351:1483966351&FMT=ABS
> &FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+24%2C+2008&author=Preston+Wi
> lliams+-+Washington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Wash
> ington+Post&edition=&startpage=E.8&desc=Stallions+
> Triumph+In+Testy+Rematch (sorry, the Post
> archives doesnt print the whole article, by
> Preston Williams)
>
> He had his headcase stud pitcher throwing that
> game too (drafted by the Orioles 3 weeks later in
> the subterrean rounds). On his second at-bat, he
> gets a curve ball in the dirt that bounces and
> hits him in the ankle..HBP (clearly not an attempt
> at plunkin the guy). Of course, the kid, being the
> head case he is, trots to first glaring at the
> Madison pitcher the whole way, etc etc.. So what
> does he do upon returning to the mound the next
> inning? Plants a 90 mph fastball in the back of
> the first Madison hitter. Dont tell me that wasnt
> done with the support and knowledge of Luther--you
> all know it was.
>
> The behavior of Lither and SOCO, esp. their
> pitcher, was bad enough the entire game that they
> were escorted to their bus by the Madison AD,
> who's one of the most mild-mannered guys you'd
> ever meet. Oh, and by the way, the GODDAMMIT * 3
> kid in this years story--was right there, as a
> SOCO Jr starter--watching the Pitcher/Luther
> diatribes and soaking up the "how to behave as a
> SOCO baseball player" lessons that Luther was
> dishing out.
>
> I've got nothing against team spirit and wanting
> to win--dont get me wrong. HS coaches dont last
> long if they lose, just like the levels above
> them. At the same time, obscenities and vulgarity,
> in words and behavior, have no place in HS
> sports--EVER.
>
> What I dont understand is why the SOCO parents and
> admin put up with this douchebag--most schools
> would have run his ass outta town already!
More details about Mark Luther:
The other night South County HS beat Madison HS 12 to 8 in a game that was a total disgrace to High School sports. This game was out of control from the first inning with players from both teams trash talking one another, pitchers throwing at each other and the umpires did almost nothing to stop this unacceptable behavior.
But the most intolerable behavior was displayed my the two managers who argued almost every call by coming out of the dugouts and confronting the umpires. It got so bad that the umpires told the South County manager that he could not come out of the dugout anymore.
This type of game has no place in HS sports and the two managers should not manage again for allowing this to occur.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Bullshit...this is HS sports, not college or the
> pros, where kids are effectively paid to produce.
> Obscenities uttered on the basketball court get
> technical fouls...EVERY TIME!
>
> And it falls to the feet of the head coach to
> define acceptable behavior ON THE FIELD OF PLAY!
>
> Luther himself is an obscenity-screaming nutcase;
> witness last year's Regional Tournament game
> againt Madison. Luther was out of the dugout,
> arguing balls and strikes the entire game, as well
> as any call that went against his team. He got
> "restricted to the dugout" by the home plate
> umpire for one set of protests, but his agonized
> screams of "thats a bullshit call" and " thats
> goddamn BULLSHIT, ump" were heard throughout the
> game by the Madison fans AND HIS OWN FANS RIGHT
> NEXT TO HIS DUGOUT.
>
> http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/
> 1483966351.html?dids=1483966351:1483966351&FMT=ABS
> &FMTS=ABS:FT&date=May+24%2C+2008&author=Preston+Wi
> lliams+-+Washington+Post+Staff+Writer&pub=The+Wash
> ington+Post&edition=&startpage=E.8&desc=Stallions+
> Triumph+In+Testy+Rematch (sorry, the Post
> archives doesnt print the whole article, by
> Preston Williams)
>
> He had his headcase stud pitcher throwing that
> game too (drafted by the Orioles 3 weeks later in
> the subterrean rounds). On his second at-bat, he
> gets a curve ball in the dirt that bounces and
> hits him in the ankle..HBP (clearly not an attempt
> at plunkin the guy). Of course, the kid, being the
> head case he is, trots to first glaring at the
> Madison pitcher the whole way, etc etc.. So what
> does he do upon returning to the mound the next
> inning? Plants a 90 mph fastball in the back of
> the first Madison hitter. Dont tell me that wasnt
> done with the support and knowledge of Luther--you
> all know it was.
>
> The behavior of Lither and SOCO, esp. their
> pitcher, was bad enough the entire game that they
> were escorted to their bus by the Madison AD,
> who's one of the most mild-mannered guys you'd
> ever meet. Oh, and by the way, the GODDAMMIT * 3
> kid in this years story--was right there, as a
> SOCO Jr starter--watching the Pitcher/Luther
> diatribes and soaking up the "how to behave as a
> SOCO baseball player" lessons that Luther was
> dishing out.
>
> I've got nothing against team spirit and wanting
> to win--dont get me wrong. HS coaches dont last
> long if they lose, just like the levels above
> them. At the same time, obscenities and vulgarity,
> in words and behavior, have no place in HS
> sports--EVER.
>
> What I dont understand is why the SOCO parents and
> admin put up with this douchebag--most schools
> would have run his ass outta town already!
More details about Mark Luther:
The other night South County HS beat Madison HS 12 to 8 in a game that was a total disgrace to High School sports. This game was out of control from the first inning with players from both teams trash talking one another, pitchers throwing at each other and the umpires did almost nothing to stop this unacceptable behavior.
But the most intolerable behavior was displayed my the two managers who argued almost every call by coming out of the dugouts and confronting the umpires. It got so bad that the umpires told the South County manager that he could not come out of the dugout anymore.
This type of game has no place in HS sports and the two managers should not manage again for allowing this to occur.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
what happens to kids
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:45PM
There are thousands of suspensions every year for kids who are disrespectful to any teachers.
Why the zero tolerance for kids in schools and the unlimited tolerance for athletes and coaches?
Montgomery County gives out an annual sportsmanship award to a high school. Coaches, refs, etc vote and it is really an honor for a school to win the award.
Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship in our programs.
Why the zero tolerance for kids in schools and the unlimited tolerance for athletes and coaches?
Montgomery County gives out an annual sportsmanship award to a high school. Coaches, refs, etc vote and it is really an honor for a school to win the award.
Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship in our programs.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:48PM
i'm thinking you retards don't know much about sports. or are big losers. or your sons are losers. or all of the above.
parents bitching about their little boys not being able to play? maybe he sucks and you look for any reason to attack and try to ease the reality that your boy aint as good as you or he thought.
but keep on bitchin' if it makes you feel better.
on the flip side, luther is quite the dick
parents bitching about their little boys not being able to play? maybe he sucks and you look for any reason to attack and try to ease the reality that your boy aint as good as you or he thought.
but keep on bitchin' if it makes you feel better.
on the flip side, luther is quite the dick
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Its not an FCPS Issue!
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:55PM
what happens to kids Wrote:
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> Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship in
> our programs.
This isnt an FCPS issue, dumbass!
FCPS spends plenty of time, energy and focus on Sportmanship in most of its schools (and i say "most" cause I havent been to games at ALL Northern region schools, just 3/4 of em), including required coach training, gym banners, AD training and monitoring. Some of the schools even have the PA announcers reminding fans about behavior, etc---which gets a little tedious after you hear it for 100 times.
The ISSUE here is a rogue coach, who thinks hes Tommy Lasorda, and to date hasnt been disciplined in any way by his administration at SOCO.
Dont start hijacking this thread as another banal attempt at besmirching the FCPS--its way off base.
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> Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship in
> our programs.
This isnt an FCPS issue, dumbass!
FCPS spends plenty of time, energy and focus on Sportmanship in most of its schools (and i say "most" cause I havent been to games at ALL Northern region schools, just 3/4 of em), including required coach training, gym banners, AD training and monitoring. Some of the schools even have the PA announcers reminding fans about behavior, etc---which gets a little tedious after you hear it for 100 times.
The ISSUE here is a rogue coach, who thinks hes Tommy Lasorda, and to date hasnt been disciplined in any way by his administration at SOCO.
Dont start hijacking this thread as another banal attempt at besmirching the FCPS--its way off base.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
EQB is a moron
()
Date: April 20, 2009 02:59PM
Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
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> i'm thinking you retards don't know much about
> sports. or are big losers. or your sons are
> losers. or all of the above.
>
> parents bitching about their little boys not being
> able to play? maybe he sucks and you look for any
> reason to attack and try to ease the reality that
> your boy aint as good as you or he thought.
>
> but keep on bitchin' if it makes you feel better.
>
>
> on the flip side, luther is quite the dick
I have two kids who are Division one athletes and I understand what sports are all about.
This behavior is inexcusable and IS NOT TOLERATED AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL-espacially when the game is televised!!!
Even professional athletes are fined and sometimes suspended for bad sportsmanship. We should be teaching it to our kids at the high school level. And if this nut, Luther is a principal-holy cow-what does this say about the quality of FCPS administrators?
-------------------------------------------------------
> i'm thinking you retards don't know much about
> sports. or are big losers. or your sons are
> losers. or all of the above.
>
> parents bitching about their little boys not being
> able to play? maybe he sucks and you look for any
> reason to attack and try to ease the reality that
> your boy aint as good as you or he thought.
>
> but keep on bitchin' if it makes you feel better.
>
>
> on the flip side, luther is quite the dick
I have two kids who are Division one athletes and I understand what sports are all about.
This behavior is inexcusable and IS NOT TOLERATED AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL-espacially when the game is televised!!!
Even professional athletes are fined and sometimes suspended for bad sportsmanship. We should be teaching it to our kids at the high school level. And if this nut, Luther is a principal-holy cow-what does this say about the quality of FCPS administrators?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
MOCO does it better
()
Date: April 20, 2009 03:06PM
News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 1st, 2008
Blake High School Awarded MCPS Sportsmanship Award
James Hubert Blake High School has been awarded the 2007-2008 Montgomery County Public School Sportsmanship Award. This prestigious award is given to one MCPS school each year.
The sportsmanship award is a reflection of the Blake community- a community that strives to provide excellence and sportsmanship, both in the classroom and through interscholastic athletic competition. The award also provides a $2000 monetary component that will be used to continue to make Blake High School a place where sportsmanship is not just a phrase but an expectation for all who participate in or attend their athletic contents. This championship award has been given out by MCPS for 6 years and Blake High School has won it three of those years.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
September 1st, 2008
Blake High School Awarded MCPS Sportsmanship Award
James Hubert Blake High School has been awarded the 2007-2008 Montgomery County Public School Sportsmanship Award. This prestigious award is given to one MCPS school each year.
The sportsmanship award is a reflection of the Blake community- a community that strives to provide excellence and sportsmanship, both in the classroom and through interscholastic athletic competition. The award also provides a $2000 monetary component that will be used to continue to make Blake High School a place where sportsmanship is not just a phrase but an expectation for all who participate in or attend their athletic contents. This championship award has been given out by MCPS for 6 years and Blake High School has won it three of those years.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bert
()
Date: April 20, 2009 03:21PM
At its essence, this is anther failure oh fcps administration. Where are the zero-tolerance freaks demanding the resignatin of this vulgar uncivilized coach. He is in clear violation of FCPS plicy. FCPS hypocrites strike again.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 20, 2009 03:24PM
> And if this nut, Luther is a principal-holy
> cow-what does this say about the quality of FCPS
> administrators?
Maybe it just says something about Luther, and perhaps his immediate supervisor, the principal of SOCO HS?
Why so quick to generalize, when the behavior is really ONE PERSON?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
> cow-what does this say about the quality of FCPS
> administrators?
Maybe it just says something about Luther, and perhaps his immediate supervisor, the principal of SOCO HS?
Why so quick to generalize, when the behavior is really ONE PERSON?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Replace Luther and Staff
()
Date: April 20, 2009 03:48PM
Its not an FCPS Issue! Wrote:
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> what happens to kids Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship
> in
> > our programs.
>
>
> This isnt an FCPS issue, dumbass!
>
> FCPS spends plenty of time, energy and focus on
> Sportmanship in most of its schools (and i say
> "most" cause I havent been to games at ALL
> Northern region schools, just 3/4 of em),
> including required coach training, gym banners, AD
> training and monitoring. Some of the schools even
> have the PA announcers reminding fans about
> behavior, etc---which gets a little tedious after
> you hear it for 100 times.
>
> The ISSUE here is a rogue coach, who thinks hes
> Tommy Lasorda, and to date hasnt been disciplined
> in any way by his administration at SOCO.
>
> Dont start hijacking this thread as another banal
> attempt at besmirching the FCPS--its way off base.
It is another FCPS failure. Students get expelled for zero tolerance violations and this shit head coach breaks the rules every time and gets nothing.
Where is Dale and Bill Curran when they let a pot head like this coach students?
Mark Luther and his staff need to be replaced by Jane Lipp.
-------------------------------------------------------
> what happens to kids Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Too bad FCPS isn't teaching good sportsmanship
> in
> > our programs.
>
>
> This isnt an FCPS issue, dumbass!
>
> FCPS spends plenty of time, energy and focus on
> Sportmanship in most of its schools (and i say
> "most" cause I havent been to games at ALL
> Northern region schools, just 3/4 of em),
> including required coach training, gym banners, AD
> training and monitoring. Some of the schools even
> have the PA announcers reminding fans about
> behavior, etc---which gets a little tedious after
> you hear it for 100 times.
>
> The ISSUE here is a rogue coach, who thinks hes
> Tommy Lasorda, and to date hasnt been disciplined
> in any way by his administration at SOCO.
>
> Dont start hijacking this thread as another banal
> attempt at besmirching the FCPS--its way off base.
It is another FCPS failure. Students get expelled for zero tolerance violations and this shit head coach breaks the rules every time and gets nothing.
Where is Dale and Bill Curran when they let a pot head like this coach students?
Mark Luther and his staff need to be replaced by Jane Lipp.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Ass Hole Luther
()
Date: April 20, 2009 03:51PM
Bert Wrote:
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> At its essence, this is anther failure oh fcps
> administration. Where are the zero-tolerance
> freaks demanding the resignatin of this vulgar
> uncivilized coach. He is in clear violation of
> FCPS plicy. FCPS hypocrites strike again.
Where are the nazi brown shirts when you need them.
Luther has been acting like a ass hole for years.
-------------------------------------------------------
> At its essence, this is anther failure oh fcps
> administration. Where are the zero-tolerance
> freaks demanding the resignatin of this vulgar
> uncivilized coach. He is in clear violation of
> FCPS plicy. FCPS hypocrites strike again.
Where are the nazi brown shirts when you need them.
Luther has been acting like a ass hole for years.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Ray Ray
()
Date: April 20, 2009 04:55PM
Some interesting perspectives. Don't really want to touch on the favoritism thing as anyone that's ever coached has been accused of that at some point. The bad behavior in Northern Region HS baseball games is a legitimate gripe. I have watched a lot of games over the last few years and I've seen quite a bit of bad behavior. I've also seen some well behaved coaches and well disciplined teams. Among the elite teams here are a few examples of bad ones:
1) Robinson used to be notorious for lacking discipline. One of their kids (who has now been drafted) had a melt-down on the mound in the regional game a couple years back and another flipped off all the opposing parents at the end of the game. The new coach seems to have better control than the last.
2) South County has had a couple notorious incidents involving a pitcher (also drafted) that yelled "catch the F-ing ball" while being pulled in a game (nice team-mate huh?) and pretty much threw his glove from the baseline to the dugout every time he lost a game. The screaming by the player after K-ing is the second such I've heard of by a SC player this year.
3) West Springfield seems to encourage bad behavior too. A couple years back one of their players deliberately threw a ball into the opponents dugout during warmups - hitting a coach in the head. In the game with SC, the WS shortstop hit a HR, danced around the bases, and after crossing the plate spit in the direction of SC dugout and yelled "go home". Funny how all the outrage seems to be about the SC player - did you guys miss this?
I could go on. There are probably 3-4 more HS teams that have reputations of being punks. There are however some good ones.
I have never seen bad behavior from some of the following elite teams -
Oakton - They lost a great coach that provided that disciple for years but even with a team that has struggled this year, they have not changed their on-field decorum.
Lake Braddock - I've heard many things said about this coach but one thing is consistent - he runs a tight ship. I've never seen an LB kid throw a fit, helmet, or make an ass of himself. I suspect they all know that they'd warm the bench if they did.
Madison - Aside from the really annoying banter that comes out of this dugout, the team behaves well on the field. This coach is a Northern Region legend and his team competes hard but not to the point of becoming punks.
Given the number of Regional Championships won by these three teams recently, one would wonder if others shouldn't pay attention to the discipled way they operate.
A very long winded way of saying there are problem teams that need to tighten up there discipline, but I don't see a pandemic that necessitates an overhaul of the entire system. I'd hate to see a zero tolerance system in place that alleviates the responsibility of coaches to control there team. Focus on the problem actors, not the entire play.
1) Robinson used to be notorious for lacking discipline. One of their kids (who has now been drafted) had a melt-down on the mound in the regional game a couple years back and another flipped off all the opposing parents at the end of the game. The new coach seems to have better control than the last.
2) South County has had a couple notorious incidents involving a pitcher (also drafted) that yelled "catch the F-ing ball" while being pulled in a game (nice team-mate huh?) and pretty much threw his glove from the baseline to the dugout every time he lost a game. The screaming by the player after K-ing is the second such I've heard of by a SC player this year.
3) West Springfield seems to encourage bad behavior too. A couple years back one of their players deliberately threw a ball into the opponents dugout during warmups - hitting a coach in the head. In the game with SC, the WS shortstop hit a HR, danced around the bases, and after crossing the plate spit in the direction of SC dugout and yelled "go home". Funny how all the outrage seems to be about the SC player - did you guys miss this?
I could go on. There are probably 3-4 more HS teams that have reputations of being punks. There are however some good ones.
I have never seen bad behavior from some of the following elite teams -
Oakton - They lost a great coach that provided that disciple for years but even with a team that has struggled this year, they have not changed their on-field decorum.
Lake Braddock - I've heard many things said about this coach but one thing is consistent - he runs a tight ship. I've never seen an LB kid throw a fit, helmet, or make an ass of himself. I suspect they all know that they'd warm the bench if they did.
Madison - Aside from the really annoying banter that comes out of this dugout, the team behaves well on the field. This coach is a Northern Region legend and his team competes hard but not to the point of becoming punks.
Given the number of Regional Championships won by these three teams recently, one would wonder if others shouldn't pay attention to the discipled way they operate.
A very long winded way of saying there are problem teams that need to tighten up there discipline, but I don't see a pandemic that necessitates an overhaul of the entire system. I'd hate to see a zero tolerance system in place that alleviates the responsibility of coaches to control there team. Focus on the problem actors, not the entire play.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 20, 2009 05:22PM
Good post, Ray Ray...I agree almost 100%, and I've watched all these teams compete over the last 6-8 years.
How many Regional Championships does SOCO have...NONE! granted, fairly new school and all, but they wont have any,either--not with Luther at the helm.
And the SOCO pitcher-shitty teammate kid (drafted last year)? He's behaved like an ass from age 14 on-no wonder theres no mention of his name on the Orioles minor league rosters. Took his bonus, acted like an ass...and cut? Seems so.
I dont think some "systemic overhaul" is required either. Hopefully the publicity the SOCO baseball program is getting, from here as well as MANY other sources, will get the problem fixed. Jane Lipp, you paying attention?
I wasn't at the game, so I missed the WS shortstop crap--but its a fair guess that the crap coming out of the SOCO dugout motivated it--since that kid has always been a classy competitor in HS football (and on his way to DIV 1 ball in that sport). Not sayin he's blameless, but SOCO is outta control, and I'll give the SS the beneift of the doubt on this one.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
How many Regional Championships does SOCO have...NONE! granted, fairly new school and all, but they wont have any,either--not with Luther at the helm.
And the SOCO pitcher-shitty teammate kid (drafted last year)? He's behaved like an ass from age 14 on-no wonder theres no mention of his name on the Orioles minor league rosters. Took his bonus, acted like an ass...and cut? Seems so.
I dont think some "systemic overhaul" is required either. Hopefully the publicity the SOCO baseball program is getting, from here as well as MANY other sources, will get the problem fixed. Jane Lipp, you paying attention?
I wasn't at the game, so I missed the WS shortstop crap--but its a fair guess that the crap coming out of the SOCO dugout motivated it--since that kid has always been a classy competitor in HS football (and on his way to DIV 1 ball in that sport). Not sayin he's blameless, but SOCO is outta control, and I'll give the SS the beneift of the doubt on this one.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
F Word
()
Date: April 20, 2009 05:44PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Good post, Ray Ray...I agree almost 100%, and I've
> watched all these teams compete over the last 6-8
> years.
>
> How many Regional Championships does SOCO
> have...NONE! granted, fairly new school and all,
> but they wont have any,either--not with Luther at
> the helm.
>
> And the SOCO pitcher-shitty teammate kid (drafted
> last year)? He's behaved like an ass from age
> 14 on-no wonder theres no mention of his name on
> the Orioles minor league rosters. Took his bonus,
> acted like an ass...and cut? Seems so.
>
> I dont think some "systemic overhaul" is required
> either. Hopefully the publicity the SOCO baseball
> program is getting, from here as well as MANY
> other sources, will get the problem fixed. Jane
> Lipp, you paying attention?
>
> I wasn't at the game, so I missed the WS shortstop
> crap--but its a fair guess that the crap coming
> out of the SOCO dugout motivated it--since that
> kid has always been a classy competitor in HS
> football (and on his way to DIV 1 ball in that
> sport). Not sayin he's blameless, but SOCO is
> outta control, and I'll give the SS the beneift of
> the doubt on this one.
If there is crap coming out of the SOCO dugout, what is Luther and his staff doing? Sounds like nothing. That is the problem.
You have a coach that is out of control which equals a team out of control.
Just ask around if the F word is used by players and coaches at SOCO.
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> Good post, Ray Ray...I agree almost 100%, and I've
> watched all these teams compete over the last 6-8
> years.
>
> How many Regional Championships does SOCO
> have...NONE! granted, fairly new school and all,
> but they wont have any,either--not with Luther at
> the helm.
>
> And the SOCO pitcher-shitty teammate kid (drafted
> last year)? He's behaved like an ass from age
> 14 on-no wonder theres no mention of his name on
> the Orioles minor league rosters. Took his bonus,
> acted like an ass...and cut? Seems so.
>
> I dont think some "systemic overhaul" is required
> either. Hopefully the publicity the SOCO baseball
> program is getting, from here as well as MANY
> other sources, will get the problem fixed. Jane
> Lipp, you paying attention?
>
> I wasn't at the game, so I missed the WS shortstop
> crap--but its a fair guess that the crap coming
> out of the SOCO dugout motivated it--since that
> kid has always been a classy competitor in HS
> football (and on his way to DIV 1 ball in that
> sport). Not sayin he's blameless, but SOCO is
> outta control, and I'll give the SS the beneift of
> the doubt on this one.
If there is crap coming out of the SOCO dugout, what is Luther and his staff doing? Sounds like nothing. That is the problem.
You have a coach that is out of control which equals a team out of control.
Just ask around if the F word is used by players and coaches at SOCO.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
$
()
Date: April 20, 2009 05:50PM
dahshiznat Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Plus pay for play teams and clinics that Luther promoted. Luther is full of shit, just ask some of his players from his Hayfield teams.
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> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Plus pay for play teams and clinics that Luther promoted. Luther is full of shit, just ask some of his players from his Hayfield teams.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Jane Lipp
()
Date: April 20, 2009 06:36PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Looks like Mark Luther is the 7th grade principal
> too, in addition to the HS baseball coach?
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
>
>
> Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with
> THAT can-o-worms?
>
> Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this
> story.....
>
> (WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
Jane Lipp the principal at SOCO will do nothing and protect Luther.
Call her to complain about Mark Luther and his staff:
Jane Lipp
Principal
South County Secondary School
703-446-1605
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> Looks like Mark Luther is the 7th grade principal
> too, in addition to the HS baseball coach?
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/southcountyss/admin.html
>
>
> Wonder how Jane Lipp (HS Principal) will deal with
> THAT can-o-worms?
>
> Stay tuned, sports fans, for more on this
> story.....
>
> (WTF is a 7th grade principal?)
Jane Lipp the principal at SOCO will do nothing and protect Luther.
Call her to complain about Mark Luther and his staff:
Jane Lipp
Principal
South County Secondary School
703-446-1605
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Parent
()
Date: April 20, 2009 09:38PM
From: SCSSParent
To: Jane.Lipp@fcps.edu, MAPflugrath@fcps.ed, MWLuther@fcps.edu
CC: William.Curran@fcps.edu
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: Re: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
Thank you Ms. Lipp for your reply to my email. I wasn't expecting a reply being I did not provide my name. As in my previous email, retaliation is very prominent as is favoritism and unfairness to equally skilled players. I don't want to go into that as of yet but have no problem revealing myself after the season. Seth is very well liked ( I understand that) but it doesn't excuse him from his behavior. I know if it were my son or others, things would be different. I let you know so that you were wise to what is really going on. You don't have to take my word for it at all, ask around to those you converse with and trust and I'm sure you will find a very close relationship to what I'm trying to bring to your attention. I was hoping you would seek validation in my words and make the correct decision to put a stop to it without getting innocent players and families involved. "Word" was out within 5 minutes across Fairfax County. It's not going to go away and to think you would brush this under the carpet is disturbing. I have never complained before as I know the norm is to be respectful to a Coaches decisions concerning his team. This act by Seth was so prevalent and wrong on so many levels that I'd like to think the school would take a more positive approach for the reputation of SCSS and sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to those accountable. To walk away with a blind eye and deaf ear is wrong, and unethical. If he didn't have a leadership role perhaps it wouldn't be as bad, but what kind of message are you sending to the team-mates of this "leader" who is allowed to behave with such awful profanity at a FCPS ball game that was filled with fans which included young children, respectful citizens and I'm sure those who found the words damning God offensive. He screamed it loud enough to hear across the field and into the parking lot.
To: Jane.Lipp@fcps.edu, MAPflugrath@fcps.ed, MWLuther@fcps.edu
CC: William.Curran@fcps.edu
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: Re: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
Thank you Ms. Lipp for your reply to my email. I wasn't expecting a reply being I did not provide my name. As in my previous email, retaliation is very prominent as is favoritism and unfairness to equally skilled players. I don't want to go into that as of yet but have no problem revealing myself after the season. Seth is very well liked ( I understand that) but it doesn't excuse him from his behavior. I know if it were my son or others, things would be different. I let you know so that you were wise to what is really going on. You don't have to take my word for it at all, ask around to those you converse with and trust and I'm sure you will find a very close relationship to what I'm trying to bring to your attention. I was hoping you would seek validation in my words and make the correct decision to put a stop to it without getting innocent players and families involved. "Word" was out within 5 minutes across Fairfax County. It's not going to go away and to think you would brush this under the carpet is disturbing. I have never complained before as I know the norm is to be respectful to a Coaches decisions concerning his team. This act by Seth was so prevalent and wrong on so many levels that I'd like to think the school would take a more positive approach for the reputation of SCSS and sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to those accountable. To walk away with a blind eye and deaf ear is wrong, and unethical. If he didn't have a leadership role perhaps it wouldn't be as bad, but what kind of message are you sending to the team-mates of this "leader" who is allowed to behave with such awful profanity at a FCPS ball game that was filled with fans which included young children, respectful citizens and I'm sure those who found the words damning God offensive. He screamed it loud enough to hear across the field and into the parking lot.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCSS teacher
()
Date: April 20, 2009 09:57PM
For what it's worth... there are two Mark Luthers at SCSS. One is the Baseball coach/PE teacher, one is a Middle School Principal.
Just to clear that up for the guy who thought they were one and the same.
Just to clear that up for the guy who thought they were one and the same.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Eastsider
()
Date: April 20, 2009 10:27PM
Don't you guys think the principal has better things to do with her time than worring about a batter saying "god damn it"?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 20, 2009 11:48PM
Principals have to deal with all sorts of mundane bullshit, like who hosted the party on Saturday night that got 8 of his/her students arrested, who was there, who witnessed what, etc. OF course, he/she would never have to spend time on that if FC parents did THEIR job as parents, but thats another thread.
You wouldn't believe the time principals have to spend on petty, stoopid schoolyard larceny and pranks over the course of the average school year, either.
Spending time on juvenile behavior IS their job. It sucks for her that she has too; if only "Coach" Luther had done his job in an appropriate manner. Buck stops with the Lipp, I'm afraid.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
You wouldn't believe the time principals have to spend on petty, stoopid schoolyard larceny and pranks over the course of the average school year, either.
Spending time on juvenile behavior IS their job. It sucks for her that she has too; if only "Coach" Luther had done his job in an appropriate manner. Buck stops with the Lipp, I'm afraid.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lipp do your job
()
Date: April 21, 2009 06:17AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Principals have to deal with all sorts of mundane
> bullshit, like who hosted the party on Saturday
> night that got 8 of his/her students arrested, who
> was there, who witnessed what, etc. OF course,
> he/she would never have to spend time on that if
> FC parents did THEIR job as parents, but thats
> another thread.
>
> You wouldn't believe the time principals have to
> spend on petty, stoopid schoolyard larceny and
> pranks over the course of the average school year,
> either.
>
> Spending time on juvenile behavior IS their job.
> It sucks for her that she has too; if only "Coach"
> Luther had done his job in an appropriate manner.
> Buck stops with the Lipp, I'm afraid.
Zero tolerance for Mark Luther, the same for all students in SCSS and FCPS.
Luther did not do his job, I hope you do you job and kick his ass out.
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> Principals have to deal with all sorts of mundane
> bullshit, like who hosted the party on Saturday
> night that got 8 of his/her students arrested, who
> was there, who witnessed what, etc. OF course,
> he/she would never have to spend time on that if
> FC parents did THEIR job as parents, but thats
> another thread.
>
> You wouldn't believe the time principals have to
> spend on petty, stoopid schoolyard larceny and
> pranks over the course of the average school year,
> either.
>
> Spending time on juvenile behavior IS their job.
> It sucks for her that she has too; if only "Coach"
> Luther had done his job in an appropriate manner.
> Buck stops with the Lipp, I'm afraid.
Zero tolerance for Mark Luther, the same for all students in SCSS and FCPS.
Luther did not do his job, I hope you do you job and kick his ass out.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCSS Parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 06:56AM
dahshiznat Wrote:
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> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is he not the guy who collects the money for Luthers camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and 14u teams for Luther?
Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
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> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is he not the guy who collects the money for Luthers camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and 14u teams for Luther?
Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: April 21, 2009 07:12AM
Parent Wrote:
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> I'd like to think the school would take a more
> positive approach for the reputation of SCSS and
> sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to
> those accountable.
I totally agree. Curse at a FCPS-sponsored event, EXPULSION!!!
If you are on school grounds watching an NFL game and one of those curse words in the background mic system occasionally gets through from a player and broadcast, the student has exposed the school community to a naughty word. EXPULSION!!!
If a student anywhere, non-sports or not, expresses any kind of emotion that is frustration or anger, whether it be a slight frown or a full-blown hissy fit, ZERO TOLERANCE!!! EXPULSION!!!
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> I'd like to think the school would take a more
> positive approach for the reputation of SCSS and
> sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to
> those accountable.
I totally agree. Curse at a FCPS-sponsored event, EXPULSION!!!
If you are on school grounds watching an NFL game and one of those curse words in the background mic system occasionally gets through from a player and broadcast, the student has exposed the school community to a naughty word. EXPULSION!!!
If a student anywhere, non-sports or not, expresses any kind of emotion that is frustration or anger, whether it be a slight frown or a full-blown hissy fit, ZERO TOLERANCE!!! EXPULSION!!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BB Game
()
Date: April 21, 2009 07:23AM
pgens Wrote:
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> Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'd like to think the school would take a more
> > positive approach for the reputation of SCSS
> and
> > sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to
> > those accountable.
>
> I totally agree. Curse at a FCPS-sponsored event,
> EXPULSION!!!
>
> If you are on school grounds watching an NFL game
> and one of those curse words in the background mic
> system occasionally gets through from a player and
> broadcast, the student has exposed the school
> community to a naughty word. EXPULSION!!!
>
> If a student anywhere, non-sports or not,
> expresses any kind of emotion that is frustration
> or anger, whether it be a slight frown or a
> full-blown hissy fit, ZERO TOLERANCE!!!
> EXPULSION!!!
You miss the point, what the student said was bad, but the coaches action of doing nothing was unacceptable.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I'd like to think the school would take a more
> > positive approach for the reputation of SCSS
> and
> > sports in general and place a "0" tolerance to
> > those accountable.
>
> I totally agree. Curse at a FCPS-sponsored event,
> EXPULSION!!!
>
> If you are on school grounds watching an NFL game
> and one of those curse words in the background mic
> system occasionally gets through from a player and
> broadcast, the student has exposed the school
> community to a naughty word. EXPULSION!!!
>
> If a student anywhere, non-sports or not,
> expresses any kind of emotion that is frustration
> or anger, whether it be a slight frown or a
> full-blown hissy fit, ZERO TOLERANCE!!!
> EXPULSION!!!
You miss the point, what the student said was bad, but the coaches action of doing nothing was unacceptable.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
VHSL
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:11AM
Maybe Mark Luther and Ms.Lipp do not know the rules?
They need to read the following:
Good sportsmanship is a top priority of the Virginia High School League. In fact, the
manner in which you and your team represent your school is far more important than
whether you win or lose the games you play. Good sportsmanship is all about
respect – respect for teammates and coaches, respect for opposing players and
coaches, respect for contest officials, and respect for the game. Please demand from
your players and team personnel that they treat all other teams, officials and tournament personnel with
courtesy and respect at all times, regardless of the situation. Please encourage your
fans to do the same. And, finally, please lead by your example.
They need to read the following:
Good sportsmanship is a top priority of the Virginia High School League. In fact, the
manner in which you and your team represent your school is far more important than
whether you win or lose the games you play. Good sportsmanship is all about
respect – respect for teammates and coaches, respect for opposing players and
coaches, respect for contest officials, and respect for the game. Please demand from
your players and team personnel that they treat all other teams, officials and tournament personnel with
courtesy and respect at all times, regardless of the situation. Please encourage your
fans to do the same. And, finally, please lead by your example.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:53AM
BB Game Wrote:
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> You miss the point, what the student said was bad,
> but the coaches action of doing nothing was
> unacceptable.
Let me rephrase then...
A kid expresses an emotion? EXPEL THEM! AND FIRE ANY TEACHER OR COACH CONNECTED TO THEM!! ZERO TOLERANCE!!
-------------------------------------------------------
> You miss the point, what the student said was bad,
> but the coaches action of doing nothing was
> unacceptable.
Let me rephrase then...
A kid expresses an emotion? EXPEL THEM! AND FIRE ANY TEACHER OR COACH CONNECTED TO THEM!! ZERO TOLERANCE!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCSS Parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:57AM
Your statement is irrelevant. To use Gods name as an expression of anger is disrespectful and wrong! Seth hit's his helmet, screamed that he "sucked". yelled that he quit and you still think this is acceptable? The kid has issues. Granted he's competeitive but he's defiantely not a leader in control. Wrong is Wrong. Seth was wrong, the coaches protected him and did nothing which makes it worse! The school is even more to blame for allo9wing it to take place and do nothing as well. West Springfields coach was upset at an umpire call and argued it but didn't get thrown out because he handled and accepted it. Good leadership even thoguh it took some time to get to that point. Seth was rediculous. Coach Luther is famous for not having what it takes to stand up for whats right. He's all about winning(which I agree, but at what cost), and the players who are good kids, and families who have raised there kids to be respectful are the victims of kids in leadership roles that can't lead.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:59AM
Sitting the kid down seems a bit excessive. How did the kid play the rest of the game? Maybe the coach had a "come to Jesus" meeting with him after the game. What would it have done to the team's morale if the coach sat one of the team's best players in the middle of the game?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCSS Parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:04AM
NO, you are not thinking. A kid who yells god damnit at the top of his lungs , throws his helmet, screams he "sucks", screams 'he quits" has issues. The coach did not have control of his player and allowed for this to be acceptable by doing nothing. I don't think Seth should be expelled but I do think he should be removed from the leadership role, and even miss a few games and serve detention. My kid (if he did it ) would have been expelled because he's not a super star. Seth is the kind of kid that you should be worried about. If he behaves like this in public, whats he like behind closed doors. Another VT concern perhaps in the future???? Who knows??
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:10AM
Come to a game #23 Seth Jordan blows up everytime he's not perfect! He loves to hit his head (helmet) the players laugh at thim! it's so stupid!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:14AM
For starters it would have shown leadership. You do not behave like an idiot at the expense of your team. Look at the pros, or even college. Scouts will dump you in a second for acting like a baby! Coaches need to coach, not just the game but kids.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:30AM
SCSS Parent Wrote:
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> NO, you are not thinking. A kid who yells god
> damnit at the top of his lungs , throws his
> helmet, screams he "sucks", screams 'he quits" has
> issues. The coach did not have control of his
> player and allowed for this to be acceptable by
> doing nothing. I don't think Seth should be
> expelled but I do think he should be removed from
> the leadership role, and even miss a few games and
> serve detention. My kid (if he did it ) would have
> been expelled because he's not a super star. Seth
> is the kind of kid that you should be worried
> about. If he behaves like this in public, whats he
> like behind closed doors. Another VT concern
> perhaps in the future???? Who knows??
What do you mean, "I'm not thinking?" Fuck you, bitch.
-------------------------------------------------------
> NO, you are not thinking. A kid who yells god
> damnit at the top of his lungs , throws his
> helmet, screams he "sucks", screams 'he quits" has
> issues. The coach did not have control of his
> player and allowed for this to be acceptable by
> doing nothing. I don't think Seth should be
> expelled but I do think he should be removed from
> the leadership role, and even miss a few games and
> serve detention. My kid (if he did it ) would have
> been expelled because he's not a super star. Seth
> is the kind of kid that you should be worried
> about. If he behaves like this in public, whats he
> like behind closed doors. Another VT concern
> perhaps in the future???? Who knows??
What do you mean, "I'm not thinking?" Fuck you, bitch.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: April 21, 2009 10:35AM
lol
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Heres the point....AGAIN
()
Date: April 21, 2009 12:58PM
Put aside your usual FCPS ranting, and the foggy thinkin so evident in this thread, and let me reiterate the point...
1) the KID behaved badly, using profanity (loudly, from all reports) and throwing gear
2) Its a pattern of behavior over time with SOCO baseball players--NOT a solitary incident.
3) the Coach "apparently" did nothing...in fact, as the team leader he has exhibited much of the same behavior in the past--vulgarities, incessant arguing, etc.
4) There should be some recourse to FIX the problem. Most would agree with that.
Forget all this bullshit about "Zero Tolerance", etc...he didnt bring a weapon or drugs to school,fer chists sake. The ISSUE is the leadership of Luther, pure and simple; does it or does it not measure up to the standards of a FCPS coach?? Sounds like NOT.
Here's an excerpt from my son's contract to play summer ball this summer--we'll sign it in a day or 2(collegiate level):
1.The possession or use of illegal drugs will result in automatic dismissal from the team.
2.Refrain from swearing, both on and off the field.
3.Do not throw any equipment, including bats, helmets, gloves, etc., at any time.
4.Arguing with umpires is NOT permitted. Umpires are to be addressed as “Mr. Umpire.” They will not be addressed as “Hey Blue,” or “Hey Ump.”
There are other rules, to be sure--a page and a half of them. This excerpt covers the bahavior we're talking about. The contract goes on to spell out redress for violating the rules--suspension, and or dismissal. Bear in mind, these are rules of behavior for COLLEGE players--as they basically begin to get semi-paid, via scholarship, to play ball. We should somehow excuse HS players from the same expectations? BULLSHIT!
So for all of you "emotion in the face of battle" arguers...I say BULLSHIT.
My son's HS coach had the same rules--if you couldnt handle failure (and remember, baseball is about 75% failure), and had to swear or throw things like a 6 yr old..you were BENCHED. PERIOD. If it kept up, he'd take your uniform away--DISSSS-MISSED!
Somehow, this Luther guy doesn't get it...that he's the leader, his behavior will be mirrored by his players, he's the "adult" in charge, etc.
It REALLY isn't that hard to refrain from screaming GODDAMMIT at the top of your lungs, or to NOT throw helmets and gear around. It really isn't; especially if your gonna run til you puke at tommorrow's practice. Very simple to fix. Apparently, from all reports, Luther ain't much of a fixer.
Sounds like a change at the top is in order.
1) the KID behaved badly, using profanity (loudly, from all reports) and throwing gear
2) Its a pattern of behavior over time with SOCO baseball players--NOT a solitary incident.
3) the Coach "apparently" did nothing...in fact, as the team leader he has exhibited much of the same behavior in the past--vulgarities, incessant arguing, etc.
4) There should be some recourse to FIX the problem. Most would agree with that.
Forget all this bullshit about "Zero Tolerance", etc...he didnt bring a weapon or drugs to school,fer chists sake. The ISSUE is the leadership of Luther, pure and simple; does it or does it not measure up to the standards of a FCPS coach?? Sounds like NOT.
Here's an excerpt from my son's contract to play summer ball this summer--we'll sign it in a day or 2(collegiate level):
1.The possession or use of illegal drugs will result in automatic dismissal from the team.
2.Refrain from swearing, both on and off the field.
3.Do not throw any equipment, including bats, helmets, gloves, etc., at any time.
4.Arguing with umpires is NOT permitted. Umpires are to be addressed as “Mr. Umpire.” They will not be addressed as “Hey Blue,” or “Hey Ump.”
There are other rules, to be sure--a page and a half of them. This excerpt covers the bahavior we're talking about. The contract goes on to spell out redress for violating the rules--suspension, and or dismissal. Bear in mind, these are rules of behavior for COLLEGE players--as they basically begin to get semi-paid, via scholarship, to play ball. We should somehow excuse HS players from the same expectations? BULLSHIT!
So for all of you "emotion in the face of battle" arguers...I say BULLSHIT.
My son's HS coach had the same rules--if you couldnt handle failure (and remember, baseball is about 75% failure), and had to swear or throw things like a 6 yr old..you were BENCHED. PERIOD. If it kept up, he'd take your uniform away--DISSSS-MISSED!
Somehow, this Luther guy doesn't get it...that he's the leader, his behavior will be mirrored by his players, he's the "adult" in charge, etc.
It REALLY isn't that hard to refrain from screaming GODDAMMIT at the top of your lungs, or to NOT throw helmets and gear around. It really isn't; especially if your gonna run til you puke at tommorrow's practice. Very simple to fix. Apparently, from all reports, Luther ain't much of a fixer.
Sounds like a change at the top is in order.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 01:03PM
Heres the point....AGAIN Wrote:
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>
> Here's an excerpt from my son's contract to play
> summer ball this summer--we'll sign it in a day or
> 2(collegiate level):
> 1.The possession or use of illegal drugs will
> result in automatic dismissal from the team.
> 2.Refrain from swearing, both on and off the
> field.
> 3.Do not throw any equipment, including bats,
> helmets, gloves, etc., at any time.
> 4.Arguing with umpires is NOT permitted. Umpires
> are to be addressed as “Mr. Umpire.” They will
> not be addressed as “Hey Blue,” or “Hey Ump.”
>
Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says NOTHING about being dismissed for swearing or throwing equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any kind of penalty if someone does it.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Here's an excerpt from my son's contract to play
> summer ball this summer--we'll sign it in a day or
> 2(collegiate level):
> 1.The possession or use of illegal drugs will
> result in automatic dismissal from the team.
> 2.Refrain from swearing, both on and off the
> field.
> 3.Do not throw any equipment, including bats,
> helmets, gloves, etc., at any time.
> 4.Arguing with umpires is NOT permitted. Umpires
> are to be addressed as “Mr. Umpire.” They will
> not be addressed as “Hey Blue,” or “Hey Ump.”
>
Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says NOTHING about being dismissed for swearing or throwing equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any kind of penalty if someone does it.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO baseball fan
()
Date: April 21, 2009 01:04PM
OK---the personal attacks and foul language being used on this thread need to stop!
I have a son in the SOCO baseball prgram and the Bottom line here - Vulgar language and unsportsmanlike conduct should not be tolerated AT ALL AND BY ANYONE in high school sports!! Players who display this type of behavior diminish the reputation of their schools and set poor examples for young players who may be watching. Mark Luther needs to discipline any player - on the spot - who behaves poorly.
Mark Luther genuinely cares about his players and the baseball program. He offers endless hours to this program, at the expense of time away from his family and his young daughters. He IS a good person an he IS a good coach so let's stop the cruel and slanderous remarks. He does need to demonstrate leadership and let his players know that there will be consequence to throwing equipment, using bad language and doing anything that disprespects the school or the game.
Also your personal attack against the JV coach is unwarranted. Clearly, you do not Know Steve Lyons or have not had a son who has played for him. He does not kiss anyone's butt. SOCO is fortunate to have him, and asst coach Tiamson, working with the JV.
You also need to get your facts straight. Mark Luther doesn't have "a camp" other than the one this winter offered at SOCO. During the off-season, Luther informs his players of a variety of training platforms. The players are not required to participate in any of them, Luther just lets them know their options. There are no personal gains.
Again,let's stop the personal attacks and encourage ZERO tolerance for disrespectful and unsportsmanlike game behavior-- of any kind.
I have a son in the SOCO baseball prgram and the Bottom line here - Vulgar language and unsportsmanlike conduct should not be tolerated AT ALL AND BY ANYONE in high school sports!! Players who display this type of behavior diminish the reputation of their schools and set poor examples for young players who may be watching. Mark Luther needs to discipline any player - on the spot - who behaves poorly.
Mark Luther genuinely cares about his players and the baseball program. He offers endless hours to this program, at the expense of time away from his family and his young daughters. He IS a good person an he IS a good coach so let's stop the cruel and slanderous remarks. He does need to demonstrate leadership and let his players know that there will be consequence to throwing equipment, using bad language and doing anything that disprespects the school or the game.
Also your personal attack against the JV coach is unwarranted. Clearly, you do not Know Steve Lyons or have not had a son who has played for him. He does not kiss anyone's butt. SOCO is fortunate to have him, and asst coach Tiamson, working with the JV.
You also need to get your facts straight. Mark Luther doesn't have "a camp" other than the one this winter offered at SOCO. During the off-season, Luther informs his players of a variety of training platforms. The players are not required to participate in any of them, Luther just lets them know their options. There are no personal gains.
Again,let's stop the personal attacks and encourage ZERO tolerance for disrespectful and unsportsmanlike game behavior-- of any kind.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 01:08PM
SOCO baseball fan Wrote:
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> OK---the personal attacks and foul language being
> used on this thread need to stop!
>
>
Fuck you! Nobody invited you to turn this forum into your own little SOCO Mini-Community.
If you don't like the language here, I suggest you go to Blogger.com and set up your own site.
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> OK---the personal attacks and foul language being
> used on this thread need to stop!
>
>
Fuck you! Nobody invited you to turn this forum into your own little SOCO Mini-Community.
If you don't like the language here, I suggest you go to Blogger.com and set up your own site.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luther quit now
()
Date: April 21, 2009 01:52PM
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO baseball fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK---the personal attacks and foul language
> being
> > used on this thread need to stop!
> >
> >
>
> Fuck you! Nobody invited you to turn this forum
> into your own little SOCO Mini-Community.
>
> If you don't like the language here, I suggest you
> go to Blogger.com and set up your own site.
They want the foul language to stop on this site, but they let the foul language to be used by some of the SOCO players when they play. Everybody knows what Luther allows because he has done it for years.
He should quit now.
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> SOCO baseball fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK---the personal attacks and foul language
> being
> > used on this thread need to stop!
> >
> >
>
> Fuck you! Nobody invited you to turn this forum
> into your own little SOCO Mini-Community.
>
> If you don't like the language here, I suggest you
> go to Blogger.com and set up your own site.
They want the foul language to stop on this site, but they let the foul language to be used by some of the SOCO players when they play. Everybody knows what Luther allows because he has done it for years.
He should quit now.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Here's the point....AGAIN
()
Date: April 21, 2009 01:57PM
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says NOTHING
> about being dismissed for swearing or throwing
> equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any kind
> of penalty if someone does it.
"DISCIPLINARY ACTION
Disciplinary action for not adhering to team policies will be either a warning, suspension for a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
Happy now?
-------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says NOTHING
> about being dismissed for swearing or throwing
> equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any kind
> of penalty if someone does it.
"DISCIPLINARY ACTION
Disciplinary action for not adhering to team policies will be either a warning, suspension for a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
Happy now?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:00PM
Here's the point....AGAIN Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says
> NOTHING
> > about being dismissed for swearing or throwing
> > equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any
> kind
> > of penalty if someone does it.
>
>
> "DISCIPLINARY ACTION
>
> Disciplinary action for not adhering to team
> policies will be either a warning, suspension for
> a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
>
>
> Happy now?
Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field). End of story. The coach doesn't have to do anything else. Get used to it or don't have your kid participate.
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says
> NOTHING
> > about being dismissed for swearing or throwing
> > equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any
> kind
> > of penalty if someone does it.
>
>
> "DISCIPLINARY ACTION
>
> Disciplinary action for not adhering to team
> policies will be either a warning, suspension for
> a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
>
>
> Happy now?
Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field). End of story. The coach doesn't have to do anything else. Get used to it or don't have your kid participate.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
No Action by Luther
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:11PM
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Here's the point....AGAIN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says
> > NOTHING
> > > about being dismissed for swearing or
> throwing
> > > equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any
> > kind
> > > of penalty if someone does it.
> >
> >
> > "DISCIPLINARY ACTION
> >
> > Disciplinary action for not adhering to team
> > policies will be either a warning, suspension
> for
> > a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
> >
> >
> > Happy now?
>
> Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field).
> End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> anything else. Get used to it or don't have your
> kid participate.
Over the last four years how many warnings has Luther given to the player? How many games has he been suspened?
In addition, this player hazed non senior players on the varsity by cutting their hair off. Luther was there and once again did nothing.
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> Here's the point....AGAIN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Hey, fucktard! What you posted here says
> > NOTHING
> > > about being dismissed for swearing or
> throwing
> > > equipment. In fact, it says nothing about any
> > kind
> > > of penalty if someone does it.
> >
> >
> > "DISCIPLINARY ACTION
> >
> > Disciplinary action for not adhering to team
> > policies will be either a warning, suspension
> for
> > a game or games, or dismissal from the team."
> >
> >
> > Happy now?
>
> Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field).
> End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> anything else. Get used to it or don't have your
> kid participate.
Over the last four years how many warnings has Luther given to the player? How many games has he been suspened?
In addition, this player hazed non senior players on the varsity by cutting their hair off. Luther was there and once again did nothing.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:14PM
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field).
> End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> anything else. Get used to it or don't have your
> kid participate.
Wow, this thread has a life of its own! LOL
Did I miss something? Where did any of the game attendees say that Luther gave the kid a "warning, off the field"? I don't believe that was offered into evidence, sir!...lol
Damn, when's the next SOCO game? Its a byooooo-tiful day for baseball! Some sun, the crack of the bat, a few choice curse words and histrionics....could life get any better?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
> Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the field).
> End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> anything else. Get used to it or don't have your
> kid participate.
Wow, this thread has a life of its own! LOL
Did I miss something? Where did any of the game attendees say that Luther gave the kid a "warning, off the field"? I don't believe that was offered into evidence, sir!...lol
Damn, when's the next SOCO game? Its a byooooo-tiful day for baseball! Some sun, the crack of the bat, a few choice curse words and histrionics....could life get any better?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:19PM
Good thing i checked!
South County plays Annandale tonight, 630pm, at Annandale.
Some of you pasty white FFXU geeks ought to go get some sun, watch a lil-bit-o America's pastime, and bring your lucid observations (as opposed to your usual ones) back to FFXU for further study.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
South County plays Annandale tonight, 630pm, at Annandale.
Some of you pasty white FFXU geeks ought to go get some sun, watch a lil-bit-o America's pastime, and bring your lucid observations (as opposed to your usual ones) back to FFXU for further study.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:32PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
>
> > Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the
> field).
> > End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> > anything else. Get used to it or don't have
> your
> > kid participate.
>
>
> Wow, this thread has a life of its own! LOL
>
> Did I miss something? Where did any of the game
> attendees say that Luther gave the kid a "warning,
> off the field"? I don't believe that was offered
> into evidence, sir!...lol
>
Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one to throw out there when he is challenged?
The coach keeps his job based on how many games his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids on the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has to let his most talented players act like assholes in order to keep them on his team, that's what he is going to do.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2009 02:33PM by WashingTone Locian.
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
>
> > Yes. The coach gave him a warning (off the
> field).
> > End of story. The coach doesn't have to do
> > anything else. Get used to it or don't have
> your
> > kid participate.
>
>
> Wow, this thread has a life of its own! LOL
>
> Did I miss something? Where did any of the game
> attendees say that Luther gave the kid a "warning,
> off the field"? I don't believe that was offered
> into evidence, sir!...lol
>
Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one to throw out there when he is challenged?
The coach keeps his job based on how many games his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids on the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has to let his most talented players act like assholes in order to keep them on his team, that's what he is going to do.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/21/2009 02:33PM by WashingTone Locian.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: April 21, 2009 02:48PM
SOCO parents are different, ya see. They're unique. Special. They now more about HS sports than the coaches, so they git to call the shots through the interwebs. Duh.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Nothing being done by Ms. Lipp
()
Date: April 21, 2009 03:01PM
Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no investigation, no looking into the complaint. Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing, speak nothing, hear nothing.
Read her bull shit response to a parent and see makes $175,000 dollars.
See needs to go out the door with Luther.
From: JHLipp@fcps.edu
CC: MAPflugrath@fcps.edu, MWLuther@fcps.edu
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: RE: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
Dear SCSS Parent,
Thank you for your email and comments. I must say that in our daily communication here at SCSS, we have the expectation for and encourage all parties to identify themselves. This allows for direct conversations that promote communication and facilitate positive results.
That being said, I have shared and discussed your concerns with Mr. Pflugrath, our Director of Student Activities, and Mr. Luther, our Varsity Baseball Coach. They would be more than happy to speak with you regarding this situation. As you know, there are many aspects involved in leading and coaching our teams. There are also many people who are part of this process and there are numerous strategies implemented in working with our student athletes. I have found over the years, that it is important to speak with those most closely involved in a particular situation and thus be sure that one has all of the information before making judgements.
Please consider contacting our staff via telephone to further discuss this situation.
Jane Lipp
Jane Lipp
Principal
South County Secondary School
703-446-1605
Read her bull shit response to a parent and see makes $175,000 dollars.
See needs to go out the door with Luther.
From: JHLipp@fcps.edu
CC: MAPflugrath@fcps.edu, MWLuther@fcps.edu
Sent: 4/20/2009
Subj: RE: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
Dear SCSS Parent,
Thank you for your email and comments. I must say that in our daily communication here at SCSS, we have the expectation for and encourage all parties to identify themselves. This allows for direct conversations that promote communication and facilitate positive results.
That being said, I have shared and discussed your concerns with Mr. Pflugrath, our Director of Student Activities, and Mr. Luther, our Varsity Baseball Coach. They would be more than happy to speak with you regarding this situation. As you know, there are many aspects involved in leading and coaching our teams. There are also many people who are part of this process and there are numerous strategies implemented in working with our student athletes. I have found over the years, that it is important to speak with those most closely involved in a particular situation and thus be sure that one has all of the information before making judgements.
Please consider contacting our staff via telephone to further discuss this situation.
Jane Lipp
Jane Lipp
Principal
South County Secondary School
703-446-1605
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: April 21, 2009 03:10PM
Now that's a helluva concept. "Got a problem with someone, take it up with them"...
So make the call SOCO parents. Do something other than bitch.
So make the call SOCO parents. Do something other than bitch.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
what a disgrace
()
Date: April 21, 2009 03:12PM
Typical FCPS response-how dare you accuse one of our employees of wrongdoing!!!!
Every Fortune 500 company has a company risk management/integrity line that ENCOURAGES people to report unethical behavior-AND it guarantees anonymity.
Why should a parent of a player have to subject themselves to retaliation from this coach?
Jane Lipp-DO YOUR JOB or get the hell out of our schools!!!!
Our kids deserve better than these losers.
Every Fortune 500 company has a company risk management/integrity line that ENCOURAGES people to report unethical behavior-AND it guarantees anonymity.
Why should a parent of a player have to subject themselves to retaliation from this coach?
Jane Lipp-DO YOUR JOB or get the hell out of our schools!!!!
Our kids deserve better than these losers.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 03:18PM
Nothing being done by Ms. Lipp Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no
> investigation, no looking into the complaint.
> Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing,
> speak nothing, hear nothing.
>
> Read her bull shit response to a parent and see
> makes $175,000 dollars.
>
> See needs to go out the door with Luther.
>
>
>
Wait! You sent an anonymous e-mail and expect the Principal to spank a coach for you? You are lucky you even got a response!
As for what she is proposing, she is recommending a thing that grown ups do. Instead of bringing this shit onto a Forum, why don't you actually speak with the coach in person? God forbid you should try THAT.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no
> investigation, no looking into the complaint.
> Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing,
> speak nothing, hear nothing.
>
> Read her bull shit response to a parent and see
> makes $175,000 dollars.
>
> See needs to go out the door with Luther.
>
>
>
Wait! You sent an anonymous e-mail and expect the Principal to spank a coach for you? You are lucky you even got a response!
As for what she is proposing, she is recommending a thing that grown ups do. Instead of bringing this shit onto a Forum, why don't you actually speak with the coach in person? God forbid you should try THAT.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 21, 2009 03:33PM
WashingTone Locian Wrote:
> Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one to
> throw out there when he is challenged?
>
> The coach keeps his job based on how many games
> his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids on
> the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has to
> let his most talented players act like assholes in
> order to keep them on his team, that's what he is
> going to do.
Are you seriously asking me whether someone would LIE to keep their job?...LOL, well DUH!
Keep them on his team? whats the kid gonna do, quit and go pro?..lol he doesnt' "HAVE TO" let his players act like assholes, they act like that because he obviously allows it...DUH
Gotta hand it to Jane Lipp, she writes up a hellova email. Who in their right mind would engage in email debate with an anonymous sender? (FFXU regs notwithstanding...lol) That there Janie Lipp-ster has some political mad skillz, eh?
Look, SOCO parents, I hear the whole "retaliation" argument for staying anonymous...its stupid. If your kid plays now, and Luther benches him, you have him by the short hairs. If he doesnt play now, he ain't gonna, cuz Luther doesnt have him marked in the top 9. Not hard to calculate. Starters play, subs cheer. If you're gonna hang on every "pinch runner" oppty as a possible slight, then go watch the softball game at the other field.
Time to man up, SOCO parents.
3 hours til game time, GODDAMMIT!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
> Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one to
> throw out there when he is challenged?
>
> The coach keeps his job based on how many games
> his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids on
> the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has to
> let his most talented players act like assholes in
> order to keep them on his team, that's what he is
> going to do.
Are you seriously asking me whether someone would LIE to keep their job?...LOL, well DUH!
Keep them on his team? whats the kid gonna do, quit and go pro?..lol he doesnt' "HAVE TO" let his players act like assholes, they act like that because he obviously allows it...DUH
Gotta hand it to Jane Lipp, she writes up a hellova email. Who in their right mind would engage in email debate with an anonymous sender? (FFXU regs notwithstanding...lol) That there Janie Lipp-ster has some political mad skillz, eh?
Look, SOCO parents, I hear the whole "retaliation" argument for staying anonymous...its stupid. If your kid plays now, and Luther benches him, you have him by the short hairs. If he doesnt play now, he ain't gonna, cuz Luther doesnt have him marked in the top 9. Not hard to calculate. Starters play, subs cheer. If you're gonna hang on every "pinch runner" oppty as a possible slight, then go watch the softball game at the other field.
Time to man up, SOCO parents.
3 hours til game time, GODDAMMIT!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
2 hours to game time
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:01PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
>
> > Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one
> to
> > throw out there when he is challenged?
> >
> > The coach keeps his job based on how many games
> > his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids
> on
> > the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has
> to
> > let his most talented players act like assholes
> in
> > order to keep them on his team, that's what he
> is
> > going to do.
>
>
> Are you seriously asking me whether someone would
> LIE to keep their job?...LOL, well DUH!
>
> Keep them on his team? whats the kid gonna do,
> quit and go pro?..lol he doesnt' "HAVE TO" let his
> players act like assholes, they act like that
> because he obviously allows it...DUH
>
>
> Gotta hand it to Jane Lipp, she writes up a
> hellova email. Who in their right mind would
> engage in email debate with an anonymous sender?
> (FFXU regs notwithstanding...lol) That there
> Janie Lipp-ster has some political mad skillz, eh?
>
>
> Look, SOCO parents, I hear the whole "retaliation"
> argument for staying anonymous...its stupid. If
> your kid plays now, and Luther benches him, you
> have him by the short hairs. If he doesnt play
> now, he ain't gonna, cuz Luther doesnt have him
> marked in the top 9. Not hard to calculate.
> Starters play, subs cheer. If you're gonna hang
> on every "pinch runner" oppty as a possible
> slight, then go watch the softball game at the
> other field.
>
> Time to man up, SOCO parents.
>
> 3 hours til game time, GODDAMMIT!
I think if you had a kid in FCPS and you had to deal with the corrupt system and the staff of nazi brown shirts you would be a big cry baby.
You do not know the rules in FCPS sports? You have to pay in order to play, You have to kiss the coaches ass, Ask Luther how many parents bring him lunch, How many give him free meals at restaurant, and how many had to go to his clinics?
One more think you can ask Luther, he has been doing fund raising for the baseball team for the last six months, where is the money?
Mulch sale, clinics for baseball players in the school gym and now each players has to sell $150,00 dollars in baseball tickets.
Not one penny has been given to any players/parent.
Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
-------------------------------------------------------
> WashingTone Locian Wrote:
>
> > Seriously, you don't think Luther has that one
> to
> > throw out there when he is challenged?
> >
> > The coach keeps his job based on how many games
> > his team wins. Not by how many parents of kids
> on
> > the opposing teams bitch and whine. If he has
> to
> > let his most talented players act like assholes
> in
> > order to keep them on his team, that's what he
> is
> > going to do.
>
>
> Are you seriously asking me whether someone would
> LIE to keep their job?...LOL, well DUH!
>
> Keep them on his team? whats the kid gonna do,
> quit and go pro?..lol he doesnt' "HAVE TO" let his
> players act like assholes, they act like that
> because he obviously allows it...DUH
>
>
> Gotta hand it to Jane Lipp, she writes up a
> hellova email. Who in their right mind would
> engage in email debate with an anonymous sender?
> (FFXU regs notwithstanding...lol) That there
> Janie Lipp-ster has some political mad skillz, eh?
>
>
> Look, SOCO parents, I hear the whole "retaliation"
> argument for staying anonymous...its stupid. If
> your kid plays now, and Luther benches him, you
> have him by the short hairs. If he doesnt play
> now, he ain't gonna, cuz Luther doesnt have him
> marked in the top 9. Not hard to calculate.
> Starters play, subs cheer. If you're gonna hang
> on every "pinch runner" oppty as a possible
> slight, then go watch the softball game at the
> other field.
>
> Time to man up, SOCO parents.
>
> 3 hours til game time, GODDAMMIT!
I think if you had a kid in FCPS and you had to deal with the corrupt system and the staff of nazi brown shirts you would be a big cry baby.
You do not know the rules in FCPS sports? You have to pay in order to play, You have to kiss the coaches ass, Ask Luther how many parents bring him lunch, How many give him free meals at restaurant, and how many had to go to his clinics?
One more think you can ask Luther, he has been doing fund raising for the baseball team for the last six months, where is the money?
Mulch sale, clinics for baseball players in the school gym and now each players has to sell $150,00 dollars in baseball tickets.
Not one penny has been given to any players/parent.
Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Steve K
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:04PM
> Not one penny has been given to any
> players/parent.
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
Well you see, high school athletes do not paid. Talk about not knowing the rules. That is a clear FCPS violation.
I will say having two daughters go through the system, the required fundraising is absolute crap.
> players/parent.
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
Well you see, high school athletes do not paid. Talk about not knowing the rules. That is a clear FCPS violation.
I will say having two daughters go through the system, the required fundraising is absolute crap.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:07PM
2 hours to game time Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
Teaching Your Kids instead of fucking around with spoiled athletes and their parents, maybe?
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
Teaching Your Kids instead of fucking around with spoiled athletes and their parents, maybe?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:20PM
2 hours to game time Wrote:
> I think if you had a kid in FCPS and you had to
> deal with the corrupt system and the staff of nazi
> brown shirts you would be a big cry baby.
>
> You do not know the rules in FCPS sports? You have
> to pay in order to play, You have to kiss the
> coaches ass, Ask Luther how many parents bring him
> lunch, How many give him free meals at restaurant,
> and how many had to go to his clinics?
>
> One more think you can ask Luther, he has been
> doing fund raising for the baseball team for the
> last six months, where is the money?
>
> Mulch sale, clinics for baseball players in the
> school gym and now each players has to sell
> $150,00 dollars in baseball tickets.
>
> Not one penny has been given to any
> players/parent.
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
YOU, sir/madam are a retard. I have 2 kids in FCPS,both play sports--3 different varsity sports. At a very "sport-centric" school, no less. Never kissed a coach's ass, once. Yep, did a few clinics, SO MY KIDS WOULD GET BETTER, dim-bulb!
The rest of your post is just plain fucking stupid.
And to the other fundraiser-hater, just LOL. Don't do the fundraising then--just write a check and be done. Stop whining.
Off to Annandale; can't wait for some popcorn and some histrionics!
Now carry on.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
> I think if you had a kid in FCPS and you had to
> deal with the corrupt system and the staff of nazi
> brown shirts you would be a big cry baby.
>
> You do not know the rules in FCPS sports? You have
> to pay in order to play, You have to kiss the
> coaches ass, Ask Luther how many parents bring him
> lunch, How many give him free meals at restaurant,
> and how many had to go to his clinics?
>
> One more think you can ask Luther, he has been
> doing fund raising for the baseball team for the
> last six months, where is the money?
>
> Mulch sale, clinics for baseball players in the
> school gym and now each players has to sell
> $150,00 dollars in baseball tickets.
>
> Not one penny has been given to any
> players/parent.
>
> Where is Ms. Lipp when you need her?
YOU, sir/madam are a retard. I have 2 kids in FCPS,both play sports--3 different varsity sports. At a very "sport-centric" school, no less. Never kissed a coach's ass, once. Yep, did a few clinics, SO MY KIDS WOULD GET BETTER, dim-bulb!
The rest of your post is just plain fucking stupid.
And to the other fundraiser-hater, just LOL. Don't do the fundraising then--just write a check and be done. Stop whining.
Off to Annandale; can't wait for some popcorn and some histrionics!
Now carry on.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:26PM
This is a very moral and sound person with the sense to see the bigger picture. I agree with you 1oo% Can you Coach? If more people like yourself were in the place of Coach Luther and Townsend and his good ol boys club, we'd have a ball team!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a parent
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:32PM
That's $250 per player selling 50/50 raffle tickets. I would also like to know why parents who didn't go to the Orlando trip didn't have to pay for a hotel room (4 players per room at $119 per night for 7 nights) .....about $225 per player. parents who joined and particpated in Orlando with the boys paid the whole balance of over $900 for the hotel stay plus our own travel. I'd like to know where the Matress sales, Mulch sales, Spirit weatr sales, raffle sales, clinic sales $$$$ went myself?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SYC Soccer game
()
Date: April 21, 2009 04:46PM
Montgomery 100-Yard Penalty on Players' Parents
Fans of Md. Soccer Team Banned After a Few Berate the Referee
By Annie Gowen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
As the 13-year-old girls chased the soccer ball around the verdant field Sunday, one set of parents watched from the sidelines in comfy collapsible chairs, sipping coffee. The others were banished to a nearby hill, straining to see the action with binoculars.
The parents rooting for Bethesda's Legacy travel team at the Maryland SoccerPlex in Boyds were being punished for behavior at the end of last season, when a referee was berated for a call. Saying their actions were "nothing less than egregious," the Washington Area Girls Soccer League took the unusual step of banning them from the sidelines for two games, and a referee made sure they stayed back.
The soccer league, home to many of the area's best soccer players with 600 teams and more than 15,000 participants, has a strict disciplinary system, in which players and coaches receive yellow or red cards for rough or unsportsmanlike conduct. Some have to explain themselves at disciplinary hearings. There are also sportsmanship liaisons on each team, who are supposed to keep fellow parents in check.
Aggressive or otherwise inappropriate behavior by individual parents at soccer games or other youth sporting events happens with regularity these days. But this case was unusual because the whole team's parents were punished.
Kathie Diapoulis, league president, said the parents had gone too far. The league's disciplinary board has had better luck barring individual parents from attending games in the past three years rather than fining them, because the parents would pay the money and continue the bad behavior.
"We have taken a strong stance," Diapoulis said. "It's important. This isn't the World Cup. . . . And for the parents to be shrieking on the sidelines and belittling people goes against everything we're trying to do. . . . It's not acceptable behavior."
At Sunday's game against the Montgomery Soccer Club's Xcel, a referee was assigned to make sure the Legacy parents did not come within 100 yards of the field. Managers were equipped with emergency cellphone numbers in case of another altercation.
Elisa Chetrit, 43, a Potomac resident and a Legacy parent, said that at the game last fall during which the unsportsmanlike conduct occurred, the parents were "all frustrated together" about what they perceived to be bad calls by the referees. "There are many reasons why [the incident happened], but the point is we've got to shut up and keep going. . . . You can't let those things get to you. You just have to sit on the sidelines and not say anything."
The trouble began when a parent from the Springfield Youth Club's Xplosion working as an assistant referee raised a flag in the air and called an offside violation on a Bethesda player, according to the minutes of the disciplinary hearing. After the game, a Bethesda parent approached the referee and accused him of making the wrong call, the report says. The parent "started to raise his voice," according to the report. More sniping occurred, and "the tone and behavior of the parents was aggressive." Then another Bethesda parent allegedly yelled at the referee's daughter, "Your father should be fired!"
The league's disciplinary committee ruled that the Bethesda parents had violated the league's code of conduct -- which asks parents to refrain from questioning referees' calls -- through "egregious" behavior that "has no place in youth sports." They ruled that the parents could not be on the sidelines for the first two games of this season.
"There was a game where our parents were a little bit vocal about the refereeing. . . . Things can get emotional, but you have to keep up the sportsmanlike spirit," said Legacy's manager, Mark Lauda, an Olney resident. "We're not a problem team at all. It was just one thing that happened."
As the cost and competitiveness of youth sports have increased over the years, so have incidents of parental misbehavior, experts say, despite efforts to institute codes of conduct and "Silent Sundays," when parents agree not to talk at all during games. According to a Sports Illustrated Kids poll, 74 percent of children have witnessed out-of-control parents at their games.
Amid the thump of soccer balls and shouts of encouragement Sunday, the Xcel parents kept an eye on the sanctioned parents, even saying later that they thought a reporter snapping photos on their sideline might have been a Bethesda parent violating the 100-yard setback.
"It's embarrassing," one of the parents said. "This is seventh-grade soccer."
Across the way, Potomac lawyer Philip Page watched his daughter Jacqueline play through binoculars, which was "very maddening." Especially because he wasn't even at the game where the unsportsmanlike conduct occurred.
"We accepted our punishment, and we're abiding by it," Page said. "One of the functions of sports is to teach sportsmanship. When we as parents violate that, the girls need to see there are consequences to those actions."
The Legacy team lost, 2-0. Their parents filed glumly off the hill, their timeout completed. They put their sweaty daughters in SUVs and minivans and quickly left the parking lot.
Many of the vehicles had stickers with the league's motto: "Lasting Friendships Through Soccer."
LESSON HERE: There are consequences for bad actions. The coach at SOCO should be disciplined as should the player.
Fans of Md. Soccer Team Banned After a Few Berate the Referee
By Annie Gowen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
As the 13-year-old girls chased the soccer ball around the verdant field Sunday, one set of parents watched from the sidelines in comfy collapsible chairs, sipping coffee. The others were banished to a nearby hill, straining to see the action with binoculars.
The parents rooting for Bethesda's Legacy travel team at the Maryland SoccerPlex in Boyds were being punished for behavior at the end of last season, when a referee was berated for a call. Saying their actions were "nothing less than egregious," the Washington Area Girls Soccer League took the unusual step of banning them from the sidelines for two games, and a referee made sure they stayed back.
The soccer league, home to many of the area's best soccer players with 600 teams and more than 15,000 participants, has a strict disciplinary system, in which players and coaches receive yellow or red cards for rough or unsportsmanlike conduct. Some have to explain themselves at disciplinary hearings. There are also sportsmanship liaisons on each team, who are supposed to keep fellow parents in check.
Aggressive or otherwise inappropriate behavior by individual parents at soccer games or other youth sporting events happens with regularity these days. But this case was unusual because the whole team's parents were punished.
Kathie Diapoulis, league president, said the parents had gone too far. The league's disciplinary board has had better luck barring individual parents from attending games in the past three years rather than fining them, because the parents would pay the money and continue the bad behavior.
"We have taken a strong stance," Diapoulis said. "It's important. This isn't the World Cup. . . . And for the parents to be shrieking on the sidelines and belittling people goes against everything we're trying to do. . . . It's not acceptable behavior."
At Sunday's game against the Montgomery Soccer Club's Xcel, a referee was assigned to make sure the Legacy parents did not come within 100 yards of the field. Managers were equipped with emergency cellphone numbers in case of another altercation.
Elisa Chetrit, 43, a Potomac resident and a Legacy parent, said that at the game last fall during which the unsportsmanlike conduct occurred, the parents were "all frustrated together" about what they perceived to be bad calls by the referees. "There are many reasons why [the incident happened], but the point is we've got to shut up and keep going. . . . You can't let those things get to you. You just have to sit on the sidelines and not say anything."
The trouble began when a parent from the Springfield Youth Club's Xplosion working as an assistant referee raised a flag in the air and called an offside violation on a Bethesda player, according to the minutes of the disciplinary hearing. After the game, a Bethesda parent approached the referee and accused him of making the wrong call, the report says. The parent "started to raise his voice," according to the report. More sniping occurred, and "the tone and behavior of the parents was aggressive." Then another Bethesda parent allegedly yelled at the referee's daughter, "Your father should be fired!"
The league's disciplinary committee ruled that the Bethesda parents had violated the league's code of conduct -- which asks parents to refrain from questioning referees' calls -- through "egregious" behavior that "has no place in youth sports." They ruled that the parents could not be on the sidelines for the first two games of this season.
"There was a game where our parents were a little bit vocal about the refereeing. . . . Things can get emotional, but you have to keep up the sportsmanlike spirit," said Legacy's manager, Mark Lauda, an Olney resident. "We're not a problem team at all. It was just one thing that happened."
As the cost and competitiveness of youth sports have increased over the years, so have incidents of parental misbehavior, experts say, despite efforts to institute codes of conduct and "Silent Sundays," when parents agree not to talk at all during games. According to a Sports Illustrated Kids poll, 74 percent of children have witnessed out-of-control parents at their games.
Amid the thump of soccer balls and shouts of encouragement Sunday, the Xcel parents kept an eye on the sanctioned parents, even saying later that they thought a reporter snapping photos on their sideline might have been a Bethesda parent violating the 100-yard setback.
"It's embarrassing," one of the parents said. "This is seventh-grade soccer."
Across the way, Potomac lawyer Philip Page watched his daughter Jacqueline play through binoculars, which was "very maddening." Especially because he wasn't even at the game where the unsportsmanlike conduct occurred.
"We accepted our punishment, and we're abiding by it," Page said. "One of the functions of sports is to teach sportsmanship. When we as parents violate that, the girls need to see there are consequences to those actions."
The Legacy team lost, 2-0. Their parents filed glumly off the hill, their timeout completed. They put their sweaty daughters in SUVs and minivans and quickly left the parking lot.
Many of the vehicles had stickers with the league's motto: "Lasting Friendships Through Soccer."
LESSON HERE: There are consequences for bad actions. The coach at SOCO should be disciplined as should the player.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
y r u so whiney
()
Date: April 21, 2009 06:34PM
why are you parents so whiney? nice example you set for your kids, you're (or at least should be) the first role model they have. you got a problem with someone, go talk to them about it. anonymous emails to principals? how cowardly. is this behavior limited to just baseball parents or all soco parents?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Where is the money?
()
Date: April 21, 2009 06:38PM
a parent Wrote:
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> That's $250 per player selling 50/50 raffle
> tickets. I would also like to know why parents who
> didn't go to the Orlando trip didn't have to pay
> for a hotel room (4 players per room at $119 per
> night for 7 nights) .....about $225 per player.
> parents who joined and particpated in Orlando with
> the boys paid the whole balance of over $900 for
> the hotel stay plus our own travel. I'd like to
> know where the Matress sales, Mulch sales, Spirit
> weatr sales, raffle sales, clinic sales $$$$ went
> myself?
Where is the money? Does Luther have it? What has he spent it on? Did he use it for his pay and his expenses? Did he use it for his coaches expenses and their pay? These coaches went to Orlando. Who paid their way?
We need complete ACCOUNTABILITY for every penny raised and spent.
Luther where is your treasury report? You need to give a copy of this report to every player,parent and school official. If you do not do this you are corrupt.
-------------------------------------------------------
> That's $250 per player selling 50/50 raffle
> tickets. I would also like to know why parents who
> didn't go to the Orlando trip didn't have to pay
> for a hotel room (4 players per room at $119 per
> night for 7 nights) .....about $225 per player.
> parents who joined and particpated in Orlando with
> the boys paid the whole balance of over $900 for
> the hotel stay plus our own travel. I'd like to
> know where the Matress sales, Mulch sales, Spirit
> weatr sales, raffle sales, clinic sales $$$$ went
> myself?
Where is the money? Does Luther have it? What has he spent it on? Did he use it for his pay and his expenses? Did he use it for his coaches expenses and their pay? These coaches went to Orlando. Who paid their way?
We need complete ACCOUNTABILITY for every penny raised and spent.
Luther where is your treasury report? You need to give a copy of this report to every player,parent and school official. If you do not do this you are corrupt.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
play ball
()
Date: April 21, 2009 07:06PM
Because of "retaliation" my kid doesn't know I'm on this so to them...I'm not whining. Thank goodness parents have an outlet that parents, school officials, coaches can see. It's not pleasant to be part of a program that is unjust , unfair and corrupt. We LOVE our kids and do our best to teach them to make good decisions, work hard to earn the reward and play fair. Not every team wins, not every player is great. This county is the opposite. It runs on $$!
AS far as Coach Luther. I'm sure he is a great guy, great coach and friend to the players. What he is not, is a leader.He has a great opportuntiy to teach our kids some life long lessons about losing, sportsmanship, trying hard, never giving up, team players and so forth. None of that is going on. The kids are out of control in an un-controlled inviornment handed to them by the leadership....COACH. You are as good as you leader....that explains it.
AS far as Coach Luther. I'm sure he is a great guy, great coach and friend to the players. What he is not, is a leader.He has a great opportuntiy to teach our kids some life long lessons about losing, sportsmanship, trying hard, never giving up, team players and so forth. None of that is going on. The kids are out of control in an un-controlled inviornment handed to them by the leadership....COACH. You are as good as you leader....that explains it.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SS kid
()
Date: April 21, 2009 07:13PM
I guess that is where the hard work fundraising $$ went. I'm sure we paid there way in full. They probably wouldn't go if we didn't. Either would the team but so what...it was Spring Break. I can see a weekend but not the whole week. What about our families? What about the players that hardly played...what a cost to them!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
No balls
()
Date: April 21, 2009 07:22PM
dahshiznat Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
If the above is true, it means that the varsity coach Mark Luther takes shit from his players and does nothing about it.
He then has no balls and should not coach at all.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> other sports I'm sure, is all about politics. The
> coaches don't play players based on their skills
> and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> such as name, reputation and parents contributions
> such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> volunteering. Brown nosing?
>
> Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts coaching
> varsity. I played under him and his current
> assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and he
> DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
If the above is true, it means that the varsity coach Mark Luther takes shit from his players and does nothing about it.
He then has no balls and should not coach at all.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Tequila Wormy
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:16PM
A ton of mexicans love to eat at the McDonald's off 236
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Pussy Parents
()
Date: April 21, 2009 08:41PM
The parents complaining on here about this Luther dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are that upset about it, organize a meeting with the coach and/or principal. If you think coming on here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's serious attention, you are wrong. It did nothing to give Litsa a stiffer sentence and it did nothing to stop the South Lakes redistricting.
You want to get the coach's/principal's attention? I suggest all of you on here agree to organize. Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP to air your complaints. THAT will get their attention.
This bullshit won't.
You want to get the coach's/principal's attention? I suggest all of you on here agree to organize. Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP to air your complaints. THAT will get their attention.
This bullshit won't.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
For the Dick heads of the world
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:00PM
Pussy Parents Wrote:
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> The parents complaining on here about this Luther
> dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are
> that upset about it, organize a meeting with the
> coach and/or principal. If you think coming on
> here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's
> serious attention, you are wrong. It did nothing
> to give Litsa a stiffer sentence and it did
> nothing to stop the South Lakes redistricting.
>
> You want to get the coach's/principal's attention?
> I suggest all of you on here agree to organize.
> Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP
> to air your complaints. THAT will get their
> attention.
>
> This bullshit won't.
You sound like a DICK head parent who is full of shit.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The parents complaining on here about this Luther
> dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are
> that upset about it, organize a meeting with the
> coach and/or principal. If you think coming on
> here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's
> serious attention, you are wrong. It did nothing
> to give Litsa a stiffer sentence and it did
> nothing to stop the South Lakes redistricting.
>
> You want to get the coach's/principal's attention?
> I suggest all of you on here agree to organize.
> Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP
> to air your complaints. THAT will get their
> attention.
>
> This bullshit won't.
You sound like a DICK head parent who is full of shit.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Pussy Students
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:02PM
The students supporting on here about this Luther dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are that supportive of it, organize a meeting with the coach and/or principal. If you think coming on here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's serious attention, you are phukking wrong dipshits. It did prevent the purchase of GHII and it did to give and it result in another FG win also.
You want to get the coach's/principal's attention? I suggest all of you on here agree to organize. Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP to air your complaints. THAT will get their attention.
This bullshit won't complaining oof yoou punks woon't cut it
You want to get the coach's/principal's attention? I suggest all of you on here agree to organize. Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP to air your complaints. THAT will get their attention.
This bullshit won't complaining oof yoou punks woon't cut it
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Student
()
Date: April 21, 2009 09:27PM
Pussy Students Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The students supporting on here about this Luther
> dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are
> that supportive of it, organize a meeting with the
> coach and/or principal. If you think coming on
> here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's
> serious attention, you are phukking wrong
> dipshits. It did prevent the purchase of GHII and
> it did to give and it result in another FG win
> also.
>
> You want to get the coach's/principal's attention?
> I suggest all of you on here agree to organize.
> Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP
> to air your complaints. THAT will get their
> attention.
>
> This bullshit won't complaining oof yoou punks
> woon't cut it
Please be original Dick head. You are just like Luther 24/7 ass hole.
-------------------------------------------------------
> The students supporting on here about this Luther
> dude are a bunch of fucking pussies! If you are
> that supportive of it, organize a meeting with the
> coach and/or principal. If you think coming on
> here and bitching anonymously is getting anyone's
> serious attention, you are phukking wrong
> dipshits. It did prevent the purchase of GHII and
> it did to give and it result in another FG win
> also.
>
> You want to get the coach's/principal's attention?
> I suggest all of you on here agree to organize.
> Set up a meeting time with these folks and SHOW UP
> to air your complaints. THAT will get their
> attention.
>
> This bullshit won't complaining oof yoou punks
> woon't cut it
Please be original Dick head. You are just like Luther 24/7 ass hole.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
South County Stallions
()
Date: April 21, 2009 10:12PM
SCSS Parent Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> dahshiznat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> > other sports I'm sure, is all about politics.
> The
> > coaches don't play players based on their
> skills
> > and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> > such as name, reputation and parents
> contributions
> > such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> > volunteering. Brown nosing?
> >
> > Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts
> coaching
> > varsity. I played under him and his current
> > assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and
> he
> > DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
>
> Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been
> kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is he
> not the guy who collects the money for Luthers
> camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and 14u
> teams for Luther?
>
> Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
First off, get your facts straight. Mark Luther does not put on camps. Luther organized a clinic for little leaguers, that was ran by south county baseball players, during the off season this year, as a fundraiser. All the money raised by the various fundraisers, such as mulch and raffle tickets, goes directly back into the South County baseball program. It helps to pay for new equipment, spring break trips, and all the various expenses associated with maintaining a baseball field.
Secondly, I have been fortunate enough to know Steve Lyons for the past six years and he does not and will not ever kiss anybodies ass. He never collected money for any of the "camps" Luther supposedly has. Coach Lyons has organized hitting clinics in the past for his two travel teams (the Vipers franchise). He did this because he wanted the best possible training for his players. Coach Luther had absolutely nothing to do with this hitting clinic. Coach Lyons has been coaching for almost 20 years, and has earned respect throughout our community by displaying a great amount of passion, enthusiasm, and dedication to his players. South County's JV baseball team has not had any of the sportsmanship issues the varsity team is struggling with. Coach Lyons and Coach Tiamson emphasize sportsmanship and respect. They actually have consequences for poor sportsmanship or a lack of respect.
The post about Steve Lyons kissing luthers behind for the past 5 years is also wrong because the two haven't even know each other for five years.
-------------------------------------------------------
> dahshiznat Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Unfortunately, high school baseball, among most
> > other sports I'm sure, is all about politics.
> The
> > coaches don't play players based on their
> skills
> > and attitudes alone, but based on other things
> > such as name, reputation and parents
> contributions
> > such as coaching, boosters and concession stand
> > volunteering. Brown nosing?
> >
> > Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts
> coaching
> > varsity. I played under him and his current
> > assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years and
> he
> > DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
>
> Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been
> kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is he
> not the guy who collects the money for Luthers
> camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and 14u
> teams for Luther?
>
> Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
First off, get your facts straight. Mark Luther does not put on camps. Luther organized a clinic for little leaguers, that was ran by south county baseball players, during the off season this year, as a fundraiser. All the money raised by the various fundraisers, such as mulch and raffle tickets, goes directly back into the South County baseball program. It helps to pay for new equipment, spring break trips, and all the various expenses associated with maintaining a baseball field.
Secondly, I have been fortunate enough to know Steve Lyons for the past six years and he does not and will not ever kiss anybodies ass. He never collected money for any of the "camps" Luther supposedly has. Coach Lyons has organized hitting clinics in the past for his two travel teams (the Vipers franchise). He did this because he wanted the best possible training for his players. Coach Luther had absolutely nothing to do with this hitting clinic. Coach Lyons has been coaching for almost 20 years, and has earned respect throughout our community by displaying a great amount of passion, enthusiasm, and dedication to his players. South County's JV baseball team has not had any of the sportsmanship issues the varsity team is struggling with. Coach Lyons and Coach Tiamson emphasize sportsmanship and respect. They actually have consequences for poor sportsmanship or a lack of respect.
The post about Steve Lyons kissing luthers behind for the past 5 years is also wrong because the two haven't even know each other for five years.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tired of the language
()
Date: April 21, 2009 10:37PM
Doesn't the county contribute to the upkeep of the fields or perhaps tha Va. tax payer for the schools? I think the concern is that parents spend $$ on these organized Spring Break trips and get no financial relief. Most in this area are able to support the decisions made by the coaches but it seems unfair to me that we pay for there hotel, travel and whatever else. Their families came to join them and if the players have to share rooms that didn't have a parent chaperone, shouldn't the coaches as well? 3 rooms at $119 a night for 3 coaches for 7 nights...do the math. That is where our finances went. I don't even mind paying for a portion, just s long as it is fair to all. I feel for the less fortunate or for those struggling financially. No one wants to admit this is difficult for them but I would bet most are concerned or had to use a good portion of their tax return to make this a reality for their kid.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dahshiznat
()
Date: April 22, 2009 01:36AM
South County Stallions Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SCSS Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dahshiznat Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unfortunately, high school baseball, among
> most
> > > other sports I'm sure, is all about politics.
> > The
> > > coaches don't play players based on their
> > skills
> > > and attitudes alone, but based on other
> things
> > > such as name, reputation and parents
> > contributions
> > > such as coaching, boosters and concession
> stand
> > > volunteering. Brown nosing?
> > >
> > > Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts
> > coaching
> > > varsity. I played under him and his current
> > > assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years
> and
> > he
> > > DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
> >
> > Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been
> > kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is
> he
> > not the guy who collects the money for Luthers
> > camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and
> 14u
> > teams for Luther?
> >
> > Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
>
> First off, get your facts straight. Mark Luther
> does not put on camps. Luther organized a clinic
> for little leaguers, that was ran by south county
> baseball players, during the off season this year,
> as a fundraiser. All the money raised by the
> various fundraisers, such as mulch and raffle
> tickets, goes directly back into the South County
> baseball program. It helps to pay for new
> equipment, spring break trips, and all the various
> expenses associated with maintaining a baseball
> field.
>
> Secondly, I have been fortunate enough to know
> Steve Lyons for the past six years and he does not
> and will not ever kiss anybodies ass. He never
> collected money for any of the "camps" Luther
> supposedly has. Coach Lyons has organized hitting
> clinics in the past for his two travel teams (the
> Vipers franchise). He did this because he wanted
> the best possible training for his players. Coach
> Luther had absolutely nothing to do with this
> hitting clinic. Coach Lyons has been coaching for
> almost 20 years, and has earned respect throughout
> our community by displaying a great amount of
> passion, enthusiasm, and dedication to his
> players. South County's JV baseball team has not
> had any of the sportsmanship issues the varsity
> team is struggling with. Coach Lyons and Coach
> Tiamson emphasize sportsmanship and respect. They
> actually have consequences for poor sportsmanship
> or a lack of respect.
>
> The post about Steve Lyons kissing luthers behind
> for the past 5 years is also wrong because the two
> haven't even know each other for five years.
I played baseball for 12 years, 5 years under Steve, and 2 or 3 under Steve and Bobby, and they are the ONLY coaches who held sportsmanship and similar values above 'politics.' I can't count the number of times I've seen a teammate benched because of a bad attitude during those years. Steve had a strict regimen of playing every player every game by sitting everybody 2 innings. Skill didn't matter and even the 'best' players sat their 2 innings. Another point, is that I still played on his team even though I was the only non South County student on the roster. He coaches for the love of the game and it really shows if you know him.
-------------------------------------------------------
> SCSS Parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dahshiznat Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Unfortunately, high school baseball, among
> most
> > > other sports I'm sure, is all about politics.
> > The
> > > coaches don't play players based on their
> > skills
> > > and attitudes alone, but based on other
> things
> > > such as name, reputation and parents
> > contributions
> > > such as coaching, boosters and concession
> stand
> > > volunteering. Brown nosing?
> > >
> > > Just wait until the SOCO JV coach starts
> > coaching
> > > varsity. I played under him and his current
> > > assistant coach on the JV squad for 5 years
> and
> > he
> > > DOES NOT put up with any bullshit.
> >
> > Are you talking about Steve Lyons who has been
> > kissing Luther ass for the last five years? Is
> he
> > not the guy who collects the money for Luthers
> > camps? Is he not the guy who coaches 13u and
> 14u
> > teams for Luther?
> >
> > Sounds like one more poor choice for a coach.
>
> First off, get your facts straight. Mark Luther
> does not put on camps. Luther organized a clinic
> for little leaguers, that was ran by south county
> baseball players, during the off season this year,
> as a fundraiser. All the money raised by the
> various fundraisers, such as mulch and raffle
> tickets, goes directly back into the South County
> baseball program. It helps to pay for new
> equipment, spring break trips, and all the various
> expenses associated with maintaining a baseball
> field.
>
> Secondly, I have been fortunate enough to know
> Steve Lyons for the past six years and he does not
> and will not ever kiss anybodies ass. He never
> collected money for any of the "camps" Luther
> supposedly has. Coach Lyons has organized hitting
> clinics in the past for his two travel teams (the
> Vipers franchise). He did this because he wanted
> the best possible training for his players. Coach
> Luther had absolutely nothing to do with this
> hitting clinic. Coach Lyons has been coaching for
> almost 20 years, and has earned respect throughout
> our community by displaying a great amount of
> passion, enthusiasm, and dedication to his
> players. South County's JV baseball team has not
> had any of the sportsmanship issues the varsity
> team is struggling with. Coach Lyons and Coach
> Tiamson emphasize sportsmanship and respect. They
> actually have consequences for poor sportsmanship
> or a lack of respect.
>
> The post about Steve Lyons kissing luthers behind
> for the past 5 years is also wrong because the two
> haven't even know each other for five years.
I played baseball for 12 years, 5 years under Steve, and 2 or 3 under Steve and Bobby, and they are the ONLY coaches who held sportsmanship and similar values above 'politics.' I can't count the number of times I've seen a teammate benched because of a bad attitude during those years. Steve had a strict regimen of playing every player every game by sitting everybody 2 innings. Skill didn't matter and even the 'best' players sat their 2 innings. Another point, is that I still played on his team even though I was the only non South County student on the roster. He coaches for the love of the game and it really shows if you know him.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Is Luther Corrupt?
()
Date: April 22, 2009 04:49AM
Luther where is the money and where is the report?
www.Mark.Luther@fcps.edu
Where is the money? Does Luther have it? What has he spent it on? Did he use it for his pay and his expenses? Did he use it for his coaches expenses and their pay? These coaches went to Orlando. Who paid their way?
We need complete ACCOUNTABILITY for every penny raised and spent.
Luther where is your treasury report? You need to give a copy of this report to every player,parent and school official. If you do not do this you are corrupt.
www.Mark.Luther@fcps.edu
Where is the money? Does Luther have it? What has he spent it on? Did he use it for his pay and his expenses? Did he use it for his coaches expenses and their pay? These coaches went to Orlando. Who paid their way?
We need complete ACCOUNTABILITY for every penny raised and spent.
Luther where is your treasury report? You need to give a copy of this report to every player,parent and school official. If you do not do this you are corrupt.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Facts
()
Date: April 22, 2009 05:02AM
tired of the language Wrote:
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> Doesn't the county contribute to the upkeep of the
> fields or perhaps tha Va. tax payer for the
> schools? I think the concern is that parents
> spend $$ on these organized Spring Break trips
> and get no financial relief. Most in this area are
> able to support the decisions made by the coaches
> but it seems unfair to me that we pay for there
> hotel, travel and whatever else. Their families
> came to join them and if the players have to share
> rooms that didn't have a parent chaperone,
> shouldn't the coaches as well? 3 rooms at $119 a
> night for 3 coaches for 7 nights...do the math.
> That is where our finances went. I don't even mind
> paying for a portion, just s long as it is fair to
> all. I feel for the less fortunate or for those
> struggling financially. No one wants to admit this
> is difficult for them but I would bet most are
> concerned or had to use a good portion of their
> tax return to make this a reality for their kid.
The truth, Luther get paid from FCPS for any work that he does on the baseball field. FCPS pays for most of the upkeep of the field. In addition, the FCPA has a program that does maintenance work on all FCPS fields which allows NVTBL teams to play on HS fields.
What about the booster club at SOCO and the fund raising they do. They paid for the new grass and other equipment needs for the baseball team.
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> Doesn't the county contribute to the upkeep of the
> fields or perhaps tha Va. tax payer for the
> schools? I think the concern is that parents
> spend $$ on these organized Spring Break trips
> and get no financial relief. Most in this area are
> able to support the decisions made by the coaches
> but it seems unfair to me that we pay for there
> hotel, travel and whatever else. Their families
> came to join them and if the players have to share
> rooms that didn't have a parent chaperone,
> shouldn't the coaches as well? 3 rooms at $119 a
> night for 3 coaches for 7 nights...do the math.
> That is where our finances went. I don't even mind
> paying for a portion, just s long as it is fair to
> all. I feel for the less fortunate or for those
> struggling financially. No one wants to admit this
> is difficult for them but I would bet most are
> concerned or had to use a good portion of their
> tax return to make this a reality for their kid.
The truth, Luther get paid from FCPS for any work that he does on the baseball field. FCPS pays for most of the upkeep of the field. In addition, the FCPA has a program that does maintenance work on all FCPS fields which allows NVTBL teams to play on HS fields.
What about the booster club at SOCO and the fund raising they do. They paid for the new grass and other equipment needs for the baseball team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
parcsif
()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:00AM
You make wild assertions anonymously yet demand accountability. Why are you not accountable for these posts? You go after kids by name but you hide behind your multiple troll names. Shame on you.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:23AM
parcsif Wrote:
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> You make wild assertions anonymously yet demand
> accountability. Why are you not accountable for
> these posts? You go after kids by name but you
> hide behind your multiple troll names. Shame on
> you.
Agreed.
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> You make wild assertions anonymously yet demand
> accountability. Why are you not accountable for
> these posts? You go after kids by name but you
> hide behind your multiple troll names. Shame on
> you.
Agreed.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball Fan
()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:47AM
Baseball Fan Wrote:
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> Sitting in the stands during a WestSpringfield and
> South County HS varsity game the following
> happened:
>
> The player for South County struck out, then went
> ballistic by throwing his equipment and yelling at
> the top of his lungs Goddamnit, Goddamnit,
> Goddamnit.
>
> The umpire told the coach that this player was out
> of control.
>
> What was not done: The varsity coach for South
> County did nothing. The player was not removed
> from the game and played the field the next
> inning.
>
> This was a total disgrace for high school sports
> and should not happen in front of players, adults
> and their children.
No names just disgrace.
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> Sitting in the stands during a WestSpringfield and
> South County HS varsity game the following
> happened:
>
> The player for South County struck out, then went
> ballistic by throwing his equipment and yelling at
> the top of his lungs Goddamnit, Goddamnit,
> Goddamnit.
>
> The umpire told the coach that this player was out
> of control.
>
> What was not done: The varsity coach for South
> County did nothing. The player was not removed
> from the game and played the field the next
> inning.
>
> This was a total disgrace for high school sports
> and should not happen in front of players, adults
> and their children.
No names just disgrace.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
oaktonmom
()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:04AM
I'm sure the coach has had a nice little sit down with this kid. The discussion probably went like this "I'm taking some heat, don't pull that shit again or I'll be in trouble" instead of "another display like that, you're benched". These coaches come a dime a dozen. It's all about them, not the kids or what is good for the team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lee Dad
()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:18AM
oaktonmom Wrote:
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> I'm sure the coach has had a nice little sit down
> with this kid. The discussion probably went like
> this "I'm taking some heat, don't pull that shit
> again or I'll be in trouble" instead of "another
> display like that, you're benched". These coaches
> come a dime a dozen. It's all about them, not the
> kids or what is good for the team.
I agree with you.
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> I'm sure the coach has had a nice little sit down
> with this kid. The discussion probably went like
> this "I'm taking some heat, don't pull that shit
> again or I'll be in trouble" instead of "another
> display like that, you're benched". These coaches
> come a dime a dozen. It's all about them, not the
> kids or what is good for the team.
I agree with you.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
pgens
()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:32AM
Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to coach and we'll show up at every game to see how perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job... how hard could it be?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2009 07:33AM by pgens.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2009 07:33AM by pgens.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lee Dad
()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:48AM
pgens Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
It seems that it is and has been much to hard for Mark Luther over the years.
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
It seems that it is and has been much to hard for Mark Luther over the years.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 22, 2009 08:18AM
pgens Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
Actually, teaching sportsmanship and on field decorum IS pretty easy--its developing players and game coaching the myriad baseball situations that come up thats difficult, so that your team wins "most" of the time.
Setting behavioral expecations, following through on rewards/punishments, etc---REALLY not hard at all.
Seems like this Luther dude has forgetten the easy part, in his relentless quest to acheive the latter.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
Actually, teaching sportsmanship and on field decorum IS pretty easy--its developing players and game coaching the myriad baseball situations that come up thats difficult, so that your team wins "most" of the time.
Setting behavioral expecations, following through on rewards/punishments, etc---REALLY not hard at all.
Seems like this Luther dude has forgetten the easy part, in his relentless quest to acheive the latter.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 22, 2009 09:42AM
There are very few great athletes who are not temperamental pricks. If you want your kids to be in groups where everyone gets along and plays nice, I suggest you sign them up for Gymboree.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:06AM
srsly, all you SOCO parents who are pissed, do sumthin about it! bitchin anonymously on some board is pathetic. get organized, ask for a meeting. state your grievances, make a case. stop being cry baby pussies. and since you know so much more than the coaches, i'm sure there will be sweeping change. yipee!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:30AM
Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
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> srsly, all you SOCO parents who are pissed, do
> sumthin about it! bitchin anonymously on some
> board is pathetic. get organized, ask for a
> meeting. state your grievances, make a case. stop
> being cry baby pussies. and since you know so much
> more than the coaches, i'm sure there will be
> sweeping change. yipee!
LOL....Almost EVERY thread on here consists of anonymous bitching-- unless of course, its about debating the mindless ( too numerous to mention, but righty tighty comes immediately to mind) or politico wanna-bes posting YouTube videos and insulting each other's GFs.
I missed the SOCO-Annandale game last night. Any new tantrums to report?
"very few great athletes who are not temperamental pricks"....hahahha, ridiculous, but nice attempt to bait the 'tards on here!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> srsly, all you SOCO parents who are pissed, do
> sumthin about it! bitchin anonymously on some
> board is pathetic. get organized, ask for a
> meeting. state your grievances, make a case. stop
> being cry baby pussies. and since you know so much
> more than the coaches, i'm sure there will be
> sweeping change. yipee!
LOL....Almost EVERY thread on here consists of anonymous bitching-- unless of course, its about debating the mindless ( too numerous to mention, but righty tighty comes immediately to mind) or politico wanna-bes posting YouTube videos and insulting each other's GFs.
I missed the SOCO-Annandale game last night. Any new tantrums to report?
"very few great athletes who are not temperamental pricks"....hahahha, ridiculous, but nice attempt to bait the 'tards on here!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Ray Ray
()
Date: April 22, 2009 11:25AM
Wow - This thread has really taken a downwards turn. What started out as a justifiable criticism of a coach for not disciplining a player, has turned into ridiculous banter about:
1) The coach plays favorites (wahh-wahh grow up - HS play to win)
2) The coach uses bad language (Go watch a football or lacrosse practice)
3) The coach makes money off camps (the SoCo coach does this LESS than any of the other coaches, not that I begrudge any of them the extra income - he doesn't even field travel teams or run hitting camps - his kids all go to the Ritchie camp)
4) The coach made us pay to go to Orlando (Get over it - stay home next year)
5) The fund-raising money needs to be accounted for (Contact the boosters club)
Seriously, some of you folks need to get a life. Luther does need to tighten up his discipline of his stars on that team, but that's it. He's a good coach and a good person. And the poster that took a shot at Lyons and Tiamson needs counseling. They are the best coaching tandem in NoVa at any level. I defy the poster, (whom I suspect is the same person that ran a South County for-profit baseball academy in the past, and has spent the last few years throwing tantrums about HS coaches cutting into his profits) to demonstrate more dedication to the kids than those three men.
1) The coach plays favorites (wahh-wahh grow up - HS play to win)
2) The coach uses bad language (Go watch a football or lacrosse practice)
3) The coach makes money off camps (the SoCo coach does this LESS than any of the other coaches, not that I begrudge any of them the extra income - he doesn't even field travel teams or run hitting camps - his kids all go to the Ritchie camp)
4) The coach made us pay to go to Orlando (Get over it - stay home next year)
5) The fund-raising money needs to be accounted for (Contact the boosters club)
Seriously, some of you folks need to get a life. Luther does need to tighten up his discipline of his stars on that team, but that's it. He's a good coach and a good person. And the poster that took a shot at Lyons and Tiamson needs counseling. They are the best coaching tandem in NoVa at any level. I defy the poster, (whom I suspect is the same person that ran a South County for-profit baseball academy in the past, and has spent the last few years throwing tantrums about HS coaches cutting into his profits) to demonstrate more dedication to the kids than those three men.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
oaktonmom
()
Date: April 22, 2009 11:41AM
Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know coaching can be a thankless job and there is scant chance you will get through a season without some nasty criticism. That said, I have also witnessed that expecting and displaying mutual respect by the coaches and players has benefits other than just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking about competition.) The teams that function this way win their fair share of games. I don't know a thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a coach who will also viciously berate his own players in front of his teammates and fans. Could be wrong, but he fits the profile.
pgens Wrote:
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> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
pgens Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Yes, I'm sure oaktonmom and Lee Dad would make
> great coaches who could school EVERYONE on team
> leadership. Let us know what teams you plan to
> coach and we'll show up at every game to see how
> perfectly you do. After all, it's an easy job...
> how hard could it be?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 22, 2009 11:54AM
oaktonmom Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> coaching can be a thankless job and there is scant
> chance you will get through a season without some
> nasty criticism. That said, I have also witnessed
> that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> the coaches and players has benefits other than
> just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> about competition.) The teams that function this
> way win their fair share of games. I don't know a
> thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> coach who will also viciously berate his own
> players in front of his teammates and fans. Could
> be wrong, but he fits the profile.
Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his own players. He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL
Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with, though.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> coaching can be a thankless job and there is scant
> chance you will get through a season without some
> nasty criticism. That said, I have also witnessed
> that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> the coaches and players has benefits other than
> just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> about competition.) The teams that function this
> way win their fair share of games. I don't know a
> thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> coach who will also viciously berate his own
> players in front of his teammates and fans. Could
> be wrong, but he fits the profile.
Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his own players. He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL
Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with, though.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WSHS fan
()
Date: April 22, 2009 04:43PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> oaktonmom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> > coaching can be a thankless job and there is
> scant
> > chance you will get through a season without
> some
> > nasty criticism. That said, I have also
> witnessed
> > that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> > the coaches and players has benefits other than
> > just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> > about competition.) The teams that function
> this
> > way win their fair share of games. I don't know
> a
> > thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> > coach who will also viciously berate his own
> > players in front of his teammates and fans.
> Could
> > be wrong, but he fits the profile.
>
>
> Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board
> again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his
> own players. He's more of a "whip them into a
> frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time
> stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate
> the other team and the umpires, verbally as well
> as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of
> comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of
> way....LOL
>
> Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with,
> though.
What training has this coach received? Does he know what his role should be we these young men?
Is he a teacher? Something wrong here.
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> oaktonmom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Another heavyweight post from pgens. I know
> > coaching can be a thankless job and there is
> scant
> > chance you will get through a season without
> some
> > nasty criticism. That said, I have also
> witnessed
> > that expecting and displaying mutual respect by
> > the coaches and players has benefits other than
> > just teaching sportsmanship. (I'm not talking
> > about competition.) The teams that function
> this
> > way win their fair share of games. I don't know
> a
> > thing about this Luther guy, but I envision a
> > coach who will also viciously berate his own
> > players in front of his teammates and fans.
> Could
> > be wrong, but he fits the profile.
>
>
> Hey, oaktonmom, good to see you on the board
> again! I haven't really seen Luther berate his
> own players. He's more of a "whip them into a
> frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time
> stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate
> the other team and the umpires, verbally as well
> as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of
> comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of
> way....LOL
>
> Im sure he's a great guy to have a beer with,
> though.
What training has this coach received? Does he know what his role should be we these young men?
Is he a teacher? Something wrong here.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a fan
()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:06PM
games got cancelled
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a fan
()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:17PM
He's handsome too! Wonder if he's happy???
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Concerned parent
()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:20PM
To fairfaxdude,
Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your words:
He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL
If the above is true, it is very sad and this coach should not be the coach of any high school team.
Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your words:
He's more of a "whip them into a frenzy to go to war" coach, and spends his time stalking outside the dugout, trying to intimidate the other team and the umpires, verbally as well as with his glowering prescence. Its kind of comical, in a sad "adult/juvenile" sort of way....LOL
If the above is true, it is very sad and this coach should not be the coach of any high school team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lindsey
()
Date: April 22, 2009 08:15PM
"He's handsome too! Wonder if he's happy???"
Who are your referring too?
Who are your referring too?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:04PM
Concerned parent Wrote:
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> To fairfaxdude,
>
> Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> words:
(y'all can scroll)
> If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> coach should not be the coach of any high school
> team.
Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3 different occasions, in 3 different games as well. Not this year though. Twice last year, and once the year before that.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
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> To fairfaxdude,
>
> Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> words:
(y'all can scroll)
> If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> coach should not be the coach of any high school
> team.
Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3 different occasions, in 3 different games as well. Not this year though. Twice last year, and once the year before that.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HS Fan
()
Date: April 23, 2009 05:58AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Concerned parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To fairfaxdude,
> >
> > Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> > words:
>
> (y'all can scroll)
>
> > If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> > coach should not be the coach of any high
> school
> > team.
>
>
> Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3
> different occasions, in 3 different games as well.
> Not this year though. Twice last year, and once
> the year before that.
I was at the Madison/SOCO game when pitchers were throwing at hitters, when players on each team were taunting one another and the umpire had to restrict the SOCO coach to his dugout. The game was like a war because of the actions of this coach.
He has some real personal problems.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Concerned parent Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > To fairfaxdude,
> >
> > Have you witnessed this coach at games? Your
> > words:
>
> (y'all can scroll)
>
> > If the above is true, it is very sad and this
> > coach should not be the coach of any high
> school
> > team.
>
>
> Why yes, yes I have witnessed his antics. On 3
> different occasions, in 3 different games as well.
> Not this year though. Twice last year, and once
> the year before that.
I was at the Madison/SOCO game when pitchers were throwing at hitters, when players on each team were taunting one another and the umpire had to restrict the SOCO coach to his dugout. The game was like a war because of the actions of this coach.
He has some real personal problems.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 23, 2009 05:42PM
Well, since I witnessed the same game, a few minor points of disagreement:
1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).
2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up on that--and he got an earful.
3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND continued to berate the plate umpire with more colorful language than has been described in this thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.
4) Personal or not, problems, yes.
Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up, parents!
______________________________________________
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1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).
2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up on that--and he got an earful.
3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND continued to berate the plate umpire with more colorful language than has been described in this thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.
4) Personal or not, problems, yes.
Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up, parents!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HS Fan
()
Date: April 23, 2009 08:40PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Well, since I witnessed the same game, a few minor
> points of disagreement:
>
> 1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the
> inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant
> curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).
>
> 2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on
> the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he
> struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to
> the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up
> on that--and he got an earful.
>
> 3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND
> continued to berate the plate umpire with more
> colorful language than has been described in this
> thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and
> the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional
> playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.
>
> 4) Personal or not, problems, yes.
>
> Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching
> anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up,
> parents!
Thanks for your facts.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well, since I witnessed the same game, a few minor
> points of disagreement:
>
> 1) the SOCO pitcher (Beal) threw at a hitter, the
> inning after the Madison pitcher bounced an errant
> curveball into his leg (hardly intentional).
>
> 2) The taunts initiated from the SOCO pitcher on
> the mound--spitting in the direction of batters he
> struck out,laughing at them as they walked back to
> the dugout. Of course the Madison bench picked up
> on that--and he got an earful.
>
> 3) Your correct, Luther DID get restricted--AND
> continued to berate the plate umpire with more
> colorful language than has been described in this
> thread so far--directly in FRONT of his fans and
> the very large Madison crowd. It was a Regional
> playoff game, after all...many MANY witnesses.
>
> 4) Personal or not, problems, yes.
>
> Wonder if the SOCO parents are done bitching
> anonymously about fundraising yet? Step up,
> parents!
Thanks for your facts.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WashingTone Locian
()
Date: April 23, 2009 09:54PM
Seems to me if the pitcher was throwing at batters and the coach wasn't doing anything about it, the umpire should have thrown the pitcher out of the game. That's what they do in the pros.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 23, 2009 11:52PM
The umpire stepped out in front of the plate and quasi-warned the SOCO pitcher, but he'd been a total wimp the whole game...he took a LOT of verbal abuse from Luther for 2 hours, and didnt toss him either.."restricting him to the dugout", where he could keep bitching and cursing, was the farthest that ump would go.
A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em both--which would have been dramatic but correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12 inches over the batters head, the next one plunked him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out of control and went downhill fast.
It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on the game the next day, using all the appropriate code words to describe the SOCO behavior without naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I think...the Post HS Sports reporter.
It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both teams and the sport.
BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part. Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly apparent.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em both--which would have been dramatic but correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12 inches over the batters head, the next one plunked him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out of control and went downhill fast.
It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on the game the next day, using all the appropriate code words to describe the SOCO behavior without naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I think...the Post HS Sports reporter.
It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both teams and the sport.
BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part. Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly apparent.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Citizen
()
Date: April 25, 2009 06:54AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The umpire stepped out in front of the plate and
> quasi-warned the SOCO pitcher, but he'd been a
> total wimp the whole game...he took a LOT of
> verbal abuse from Luther for 2 hours, and didnt
> toss him either.."restricting him to the dugout",
> where he could keep bitching and cursing, was the
> farthest that ump would go.
>
> A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em
> both--which would have been dramatic but
> correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12
> inches over the batters head, the next one plunked
> him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out
> of control and went downhill fast.
>
> It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on
> the game the next day, using all the appropriate
> code words to describe the SOCO behavior without
> naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I
> think...the Post HS Sports reporter.
>
> It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both
> teams and the sport.
>
> BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a
> pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part.
> Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss
> em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly
> apparent.
Is Luther still the coach at SOCO after all of the above?
-------------------------------------------------------
> The umpire stepped out in front of the plate and
> quasi-warned the SOCO pitcher, but he'd been a
> total wimp the whole game...he took a LOT of
> verbal abuse from Luther for 2 hours, and didnt
> toss him either.."restricting him to the dugout",
> where he could keep bitching and cursing, was the
> farthest that ump would go.
>
> A lot of the fans were on the ump to toss em
> both--which would have been dramatic but
> correct(since the first pitch he threw was 12
> inches over the batters head, the next one plunked
> him) but he didn't have the balls. Game got out
> of control and went downhill fast.
>
> It was bad enough that the Post ran a big story on
> the game the next day, using all the appropriate
> code words to describe the SOCO behavior without
> naming kid's names. Preston Williams, I
> think...the Post HS Sports reporter.
>
> It happens. Its too bad when it does--for both
> teams and the sport.
>
> BTW, in the pros AND High School, tossing a
> pitcher is all judgement on the umpire's part.
> Only if he "judged" it intentional do they toss
> em--usually a fastball at the head is fairly
> apparent.
Is Luther still the coach at SOCO after all of the above?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Out of control coach
()
Date: April 25, 2009 05:50PM
At yesterdays game against Lake Braddock the SOCO varsity coach confronted the umpire after the game in the parking lot.
Is he out of control or is there something wrong with him?
Is he out of control or is there something wrong with him?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
oaktonmom
()
Date: April 25, 2009 09:59PM
I doubt that is something that the VHSL can ignore. I wonder if it was reported.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
LB Fan
()
Date: April 25, 2009 11:45PM
This is a blatant lie. I was behind the South County coach as they walked to the bus and there was no confrontation at all. Kind of makes you wonder how many other lies have been told in this post.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
me too
()
Date: April 26, 2009 12:57AM
I do not know where you were, but I also heard it...I was not surprised, but was disappointed...and I held back a little as I was concerned it might escalate.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Fan
()
Date: April 26, 2009 07:00AM
me too Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I do not know where you were, but I also heard
> it...I was not surprised, but was
> disappointed...and I held back a little as I was
> concerned it might escalate.
I and others were there and heard Luther confront the umpire. No coach should take his anger to the parking lot. He could have started a fight/riot.
His actions over the last few years to not bold well for SOCO sports. In fact, it does not do bold well for HS sports.
He needs to be reported to Ms. Lipp and the AD for FCPS.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I do not know where you were, but I also heard
> it...I was not surprised, but was
> disappointed...and I held back a little as I was
> concerned it might escalate.
I and others were there and heard Luther confront the umpire. No coach should take his anger to the parking lot. He could have started a fight/riot.
His actions over the last few years to not bold well for SOCO sports. In fact, it does not do bold well for HS sports.
He needs to be reported to Ms. Lipp and the AD for FCPS.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luthers Bio
()
Date: April 26, 2009 07:09AM
Disgraceful HS Baseball Game
Posted by: Fan
Date: May 25, 2008
The other night South County HS beat Madison HS 12 to 8 in a game that was a total disgrace to High School sports. This game was out of control from the first inning with players from both teams trash talking one another, pitchers throwing at each other and the umpires did almost nothing to stop this unacceptable behavior.
But the most intolerable behavior was displayed my the two managers who argued almost every call by coming out of the dugouts and confronting the umpires. It got so bad that the umpires told the South County manager that he could not come out of the dugout anymore.
This type of game has no place in HS sports and the two managers should not manage again for allowing this to occur.
Posted by: Fan
Date: May 25, 2008
The other night South County HS beat Madison HS 12 to 8 in a game that was a total disgrace to High School sports. This game was out of control from the first inning with players from both teams trash talking one another, pitchers throwing at each other and the umpires did almost nothing to stop this unacceptable behavior.
But the most intolerable behavior was displayed my the two managers who argued almost every call by coming out of the dugouts and confronting the umpires. It got so bad that the umpires told the South County manager that he could not come out of the dugout anymore.
This type of game has no place in HS sports and the two managers should not manage again for allowing this to occur.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
True
()
Date: April 26, 2009 07:57AM
have heard some not so flattering things about this Luther character-steering players to certain facilities for out-of-season activities, involvement in feeder teams, etc.
Maybe a nice guy but I hear he bends the rules a lot.
Maybe a nice guy but I hear he bends the rules a lot.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 27, 2009 07:53AM
"True", you're missing the point. Out of season clinics and feeder teams are the NORM for any serious HS athlete these days--you can bemoan the "good old days" all ya want, but virtually every sport is a year round one now. And every decent HS coach is usually involved in off-season training and clinics--the demand and $$$ is there for lots of em. I dont begrudge a coach who gets a measly 2-3K for a HS season (which is usually split with asst coaches) a chance to use their talent to teach and train in the off-season.
I think the point of this thread has been Luther's behavior and demeanor on the field, and the lack of discipline his "stars" exhibit there as well.
And now, I'd like to hear from more eyewitnesses about the umpire-berating after the LB game...please post, those who were there!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
I think the point of this thread has been Luther's behavior and demeanor on the field, and the lack of discipline his "stars" exhibit there as well.
And now, I'd like to hear from more eyewitnesses about the umpire-berating after the LB game...please post, those who were there!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: April 27, 2009 10:27AM
WELL! i wasn't there, but i also heard there was an orphanage on fire and luther ran in and saved dozens of children! thats just what i heard though. so, you know....
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Abner Beeberman
()
Date: April 27, 2009 10:49AM
Mr. Beaker
You suck. I was at the fire...Luther did not save anyone....he started the fire and the roasted marshmellows, laughing while the poor orphans screamed for help.
It is the wild, unsubstantiated rumor mongering like yours that degrades this fine forum. All know that Luther will be videotaped at the next few games....if he even picks his nose (again) it will be all over Youtube, and he'll be fired.
AB
Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WELL! i wasn't there, but i also heard there was
> an orphanage on fire and luther ran in and saved
> dozens of children! thats just what i heard
> though. so, you know....
You suck. I was at the fire...Luther did not save anyone....he started the fire and the roasted marshmellows, laughing while the poor orphans screamed for help.
It is the wild, unsubstantiated rumor mongering like yours that degrades this fine forum. All know that Luther will be videotaped at the next few games....if he even picks his nose (again) it will be all over Youtube, and he'll be fired.
AB
Emeritus Q. Beaker Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> WELL! i wasn't there, but i also heard there was
> an orphanage on fire and luther ran in and saved
> dozens of children! thats just what i heard
> though. so, you know....
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ernie
()
Date: April 27, 2009 11:44AM
Ten dollars he eats it after he picks it.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
slimeball
()
Date: April 27, 2009 11:56AM
I say he gives it to his star pitcher to doctor his pitch.
p.s. I hear his foul-mouthed pitcher is prone to holding the coach's bat in the locker room, while the coach is juggling his balls.
p.s. I hear his foul-mouthed pitcher is prone to holding the coach's bat in the locker room, while the coach is juggling his balls.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Curious mom
()
Date: April 27, 2009 04:34PM
When did Dale Rumberger leave South County?
Nothing being done by Ms. Lipp Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no
> investigation, no looking into the complaint.
> Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing,
> speak nothing, hear nothing.
>
> Read her bull shit response to a parent and see
> makes $175,000 dollars.
>
> See needs to go out the door with Luther.
>
>
> From: JHLipp@fcps.edu
> CC: MAPflugrath@fcps.edu, MWLuther@fcps.edu
> Sent: 4/20/2009
> Subj: RE: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
>
>
> Dear SCSS Parent,
>
> Thank you for your email and comments. I must say
> that in our daily communication here at SCSS, we
> have the expectation for and encourage all parties
> to identify themselves. This allows for direct
> conversations that promote communication and
> facilitate positive results.
>
> That being said, I have shared and discussed your
> concerns with Mr. Pflugrath, our Director of
> Student Activities, and Mr. Luther, our Varsity
> Baseball Coach. They would be more than happy to
> speak with you regarding this situation. As you
> know, there are many aspects involved in leading
> and coaching our teams. There are also many
> people who are part of this process and there are
> numerous strategies implemented in working with
> our student athletes. I have found over the years,
> that it is important to speak with those most
> closely involved in a particular situation and
> thus be sure that one has all of the information
> before making judgements.
>
> Please consider contacting our staff via telephone
> to further discuss this situation.
>
> Jane Lipp
>
> Jane Lipp
> Principal
> South County Secondary School
> 703-446-1605
Nothing being done by Ms. Lipp Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Once again FCPS does nothing. No interviews, no
> investigation, no looking into the complaint.
> Ms.Lipp is like the three monkeys, see nothing,
> speak nothing, hear nothing.
>
> Read her bull shit response to a parent and see
> makes $175,000 dollars.
>
> See needs to go out the door with Luther.
>
>
> From: JHLipp@fcps.edu
> CC: MAPflugrath@fcps.edu, MWLuther@fcps.edu
> Sent: 4/20/2009
> Subj: RE: Varsity baseball Games this weekend
>
>
> Dear SCSS Parent,
>
> Thank you for your email and comments. I must say
> that in our daily communication here at SCSS, we
> have the expectation for and encourage all parties
> to identify themselves. This allows for direct
> conversations that promote communication and
> facilitate positive results.
>
> That being said, I have shared and discussed your
> concerns with Mr. Pflugrath, our Director of
> Student Activities, and Mr. Luther, our Varsity
> Baseball Coach. They would be more than happy to
> speak with you regarding this situation. As you
> know, there are many aspects involved in leading
> and coaching our teams. There are also many
> people who are part of this process and there are
> numerous strategies implemented in working with
> our student athletes. I have found over the years,
> that it is important to speak with those most
> closely involved in a particular situation and
> thus be sure that one has all of the information
> before making judgements.
>
> Please consider contacting our staff via telephone
> to further discuss this situation.
>
> Jane Lipp
>
> Jane Lipp
> Principal
> South County Secondary School
> 703-446-1605
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Hey Principal Lipp
()
Date: April 27, 2009 05:11PM
I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine or having sex with one of their students, she would wait for the complaintant to formally identify themselves....
What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.
Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of this crap goes on-NO WAY.
Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they can't fill the position
Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going on from coaches-extorting money from players and parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc, does not happen.
They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.
Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of this crap goes on-NO WAY.
Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they can't fill the position
Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going on from coaches-extorting money from players and parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc, does not happen.
They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lipp is full of shit
()
Date: April 28, 2009 05:40AM
I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine or having sex with one of their students, she would wait for the complaintant to formally identify themselves....
What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.
Based on her rules and FCPS, students get hurt.
We need zero tolerance against employees and coaches.
What a great way to run a school-protect the employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the chips fall where they may.
Based on her rules and FCPS, students get hurt.
We need zero tolerance against employees and coaches.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 29, 2009 07:49AM
Hey Principal Lipp Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine
> or having sex with one of their students, she
> would wait for the complaintant to formally
> identify themselves....
>
> What a great way to run a school-protect the
> employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the
> chips fall where they may.
>
> Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go
> ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of
> this crap goes on-NO WAY.
>
> Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they
> can't fill the position
>
> Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going
> on from coaches-extorting money from players and
> parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
>
> Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
>
> Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open
> gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> does not happen.
>
> They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at
> FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
Really not the most apt analogy....try again. Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.
1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches teaching at one school, coaching at another.
2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches self-employed doing training and clinics in the off-season.
3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental moves, etc...its the same thing.
4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called) just passed a new rule last year allowing HS coaches to coach their HS team during the off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So bullshit again.
Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
Now carry on.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> tip that one of her employees was dealing cocaine
> or having sex with one of their students, she
> would wait for the complaintant to formally
> identify themselves....
>
> What a great way to run a school-protect the
> employees and/or coaches at all costs and let the
> chips fall where they may.
>
> Why is this school district so dysfunctional. Go
> ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any of
> this crap goes on-NO WAY.
>
> Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless they
> can't fill the position
>
> Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap going
> on from coaches-extorting money from players and
> parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
>
> Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
>
> Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball (open
> gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> does not happen.
>
> They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits at
> FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
Really not the most apt analogy....try again. Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.
1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches teaching at one school, coaching at another.
2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches self-employed doing training and clinics in the off-season.
3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental moves, etc...its the same thing.
4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called) just passed a new rule last year allowing HS coaches to coach their HS team during the off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So bullshit again.
Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
Now carry on.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fACTS
()
Date: April 29, 2009 09:00AM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey Principal Lipp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> > tip that one of her employees was dealing
> cocaine
> > or having sex with one of their students, she
> > would wait for the complaintant to formally
> > identify themselves....
> >
> > What a great way to run a school-protect the
> > employees and/or coaches at all costs and let
> the
> > chips fall where they may.
> >
> > Why is this school district so dysfunctional.
> Go
> > ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any
> of
> > this crap goes on-NO WAY.
> >
> > Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless
> they
> > can't fill the position
> >
> > Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap
> going
> > on from coaches-extorting money from players
> and
> > parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
> >
> > Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> > permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
> >
> > Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball
> (open
> > gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> > does not happen.
> >
> > They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits
> at
> > FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
>
>
> Really not the most apt analogy....try again.
> Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass
> "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.
>
>
> 1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed
> by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS
> or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to
> make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches
> teaching at one school, coaching at another.
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> Now carry on.
Before you mouth off you need to know the VHSL rules regarding coaching their players and the FCPS rules for coaching their players. Not the same.
PLEASE CARRY ON WHEN YOU KNOW THE RULES.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey Principal Lipp Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I guess if Principal Lipp received an anonymous
> > tip that one of her employees was dealing
> cocaine
> > or having sex with one of their students, she
> > would wait for the complaintant to formally
> > identify themselves....
> >
> > What a great way to run a school-protect the
> > employees and/or coaches at all costs and let
> the
> > chips fall where they may.
> >
> > Why is this school district so dysfunctional.
> Go
> > ask around at Montgomery County Schools if any
> of
> > this crap goes on-NO WAY.
> >
> > Rule 1: Coaches have to be employees-unless
> they
> > can't fill the position
> >
> > Rule 2: Absolutely NO private business crap
> going
> > on from coaches-extorting money from players
> and
> > parents for camps, etc. to pad their pockets.
> >
> > Rule 3: No pupil placement for sports-Is not
> > permitted. They actually enforse the rules.
> >
> > Rule 4: Out of season activities-basketball
> (open
> > gym), summer leagues with existing teams, etc,
> > does not happen.
> >
> > They have strict rules, and unlike the nitwits
> at
> > FCPS, actually ENFORCE them!!
>
>
> Really not the most apt analogy....try again.
> Attempting to fit this issue under some dumbass
> "zero tolerance" category is just ridiculous.
>
>
> 1) The same "rule", with the caveat, is employed
> by FCPS. Its not much of a "rule" in either MCPS
> or FCPS, since its reliant on current vacancies to
> make it work. MANY instances of FCPS coaches
> teaching at one school, coaching at another.
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> Now carry on.
Before you mouth off you need to know the VHSL rules regarding coaching their players and the FCPS rules for coaching their players. Not the same.
PLEASE CARRY ON WHEN YOU KNOW THE RULES.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
funfax36
()
Date: April 29, 2009 12:59PM
As a college baseball player...this shit happens every day...some of you parents need to cut the umbilical chord... let your kids do their thing, play the game...parents should stay out of the dugout...its the complaining parents of these sheltered kids that sensationalize this crap and try to stir shit up in a feeble attempt to get thier kid playing time or justify them just being shitty athletes...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Fairfaxdude is from cheatcentral
()
Date: April 29, 2009 03:35PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.
Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their players at their private clinics.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.
Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT players who are not Madison based students. 40% of their team should be attending other schools.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.
80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule. Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what FCPS is proposing.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
You are a know nothing idiot.
>
> Now carry on.
-------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> off-season.
Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their players at their private clinics.
>
> 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time in
> MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you call
> it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> moves, etc...its the same thing.
Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT players who are not Madison based students. 40% of their team should be attending other schools.
>
> 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its called)
> just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> coaches to coach their HS team during the
> off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit. So
> bullshit again.
80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule. Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what FCPS is proposing.
>
> Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
You are a know nothing idiot.
>
> Now carry on.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bull Shit Program at Madison HS
()
Date: April 29, 2009 04:01PM
Fairfaxdude is from cheatcentral Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> > self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> > off-season.
>
> Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I
> can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their
> players at their private clinics.
> >
> > 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time
> in
> > MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you
> call
> > it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> > moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT
> players who are not Madison based students. 40%
> of their team should be attending other schools.
> >
> > 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its
> called)
> > just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> > coaches to coach their HS team during the
> > off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit.
> So
> > bullshit again.
>
> 80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule.
> Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what
> FCPS is proposing.
> >
> > Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> You are a know nothing idiot.
> >
> > Now carry on.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.
Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What a bull shit program.
NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.
-------------------------------------------------------
> fairfaxdude Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > 2) Bullshit...there are certainly MCPS coaches
> > self-employed doing training and clinics in the
> > off-season.
>
> Name ONE that gets paid by their own players. I
> can name 10-15 FCPS coaches who get paid by their
> players at their private clinics.
> >
> > 3)High profile "transfers" happen all the time
> in
> > MOCO...read the Post. I don't care what you
> call
> > it: pupil placement, transfers, fake parental
> > moves, etc...its the same thing.
>
> Name ONE. Madison HS's basesball team has EIGHT
> players who are not Madison based students. 40%
> of their team should be attending other schools.
> >
> > 4)The "Maryland HS Athletic" (whatever its
> called)
> > just passed a new rule last year allowing HS
> > coaches to coach their HS team during the
> > off-season--something the VHSL does NOT permit.
> So
> > bullshit again.
>
> 80% of their starting line-up is the MD rule.
> Baseball would be 7 players-far less than what
> FCPS is proposing.
> >
> > Bottom line, you FAIL. Try again.
>
> You are a know nothing idiot.
> >
> > Now carry on.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.
Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What a bull shit program.
NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
oh Lookit! Mark Luther has arrived!
()
Date: April 30, 2009 10:57AM
Bull Shit Program at Madison HS Wrote:
> No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison
> cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.
>
>
> Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What
> a bull shit program.
>
> NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.
about time you showed up, mr luther! folks here been getting on your case a bit--bet it pissed you right the hell off.
GODDAMMIT GODDDAMIT GODDDAMIT
> No, he is a Madison/Puge ass kisser. Madison
> cheats the most of any HS and everybody knows it.
>
>
> Madison rules = pay to play and cheat to win. What
> a bull shit program.
>
> NOW CARRY ON CHEAT.
about time you showed up, mr luther! folks here been getting on your case a bit--bet it pissed you right the hell off.
GODDAMMIT GODDDAMIT GODDDAMIT
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: April 30, 2009 08:51PM
LOL...I see we have a hider poster, throwing up MARYLAND comparisons...how droll..
Meh.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Meh.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Digby is Willin'
()
Date: April 30, 2009 10:08PM
How shal the world be served?
Let Luther have his Seth to hym reserved!
Attachments:
Let Luther have his Seth to hym reserved!
Attachments:
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
strikeout
()
Date: May 02, 2009 04:47AM
Who is Digby? Is he the player who was out of control because he K three times?
Does Luther know how to teach hitting? He knows nothing about discipline.
Stallions are running wild again.
Does Luther know how to teach hitting? He knows nothing about discipline.
Stallions are running wild again.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Eighth Man Out
()
Date: May 02, 2009 09:26AM
>Who is Digby?<
Upset Parents wrote (4/20): "As a parent of a player, how is it that, the captain of the Varsity baseball team(Seth Jordan)can scream at the top of his lungs (God damn-it 3 times) throw his helmet in the dugout, be warned by the umpire (Directly to Coach Townsend) and still play in the game and the following game against Bishop Ireton? I'm sure I am not the only parent that has brought this to the schools attention.
I am appalled at what coaches do (or in most cases don't do) to protect there better players. This is totally unacceptable behavior from the player and even worse unacceptable leadership from Coach Luther and Townsend who did nothing and does nothing to Seth Jordan.
What is the schools responsibility?
A very angry parent who at the moment won't reveal a name due to retaliation against our son. What's right is right. Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a captain (allow Digby the role)"
To wit: Digby is willin'.
Upset Parents wrote (4/20): "As a parent of a player, how is it that, the captain of the Varsity baseball team(Seth Jordan)can scream at the top of his lungs (God damn-it 3 times) throw his helmet in the dugout, be warned by the umpire (Directly to Coach Townsend) and still play in the game and the following game against Bishop Ireton? I'm sure I am not the only parent that has brought this to the schools attention.
I am appalled at what coaches do (or in most cases don't do) to protect there better players. This is totally unacceptable behavior from the player and even worse unacceptable leadership from Coach Luther and Townsend who did nothing and does nothing to Seth Jordan.
What is the schools responsibility?
A very angry parent who at the moment won't reveal a name due to retaliation against our son. What's right is right. Seth Jordan is a poor excuse for a captain (allow Digby the role)"
To wit: Digby is willin'.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
baseball
()
Date: May 02, 2009 04:13PM
Being coached by Coach Luther, none of you guys realize how much work he puts in and what he expects from his players. Some of the players can get out of control, but that does not mean he urges them on to play with that personanilty. Coach Luther is one of the best coaches that I have had and does not deserve all this bad publicity.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Nothing
()
Date: May 02, 2009 09:35PM
I played for Luther at Hayfield years ago. He was nothing then and he is still nothing.
He played favorites.
He played favorites.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
baseball
()
Date: May 03, 2009 11:20AM
He is definitely something if he can bring our team to states. He puts the best 9 players out on the field that he believes will give the best chance to win. Not playing favorites at all.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
showmethemoney
()
Date: May 03, 2009 11:24AM
Why are my taxes going to sh-- like this? I should just be paying for the 3Rs. If people want to do extra curricular stuff you should pay for it out of your pocket. The youth in this area are not yelled at enough...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
$$$$$$$$$
()
Date: May 03, 2009 03:44PM
Why does Luther tell his players what clinic they must attend?
Does Luther get a kick back every time he sends his players to a clinic?
Does he run a pay for play program?
How many state, region or district titles has he won over the years?
Does Luther get a kick back every time he sends his players to a clinic?
Does he run a pay for play program?
How many state, region or district titles has he won over the years?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
player
()
Date: May 03, 2009 08:13PM
As a former player for Coach Luther I can vouch for him as being far from what everyone on here is criticizing him of. He runs a smooth and successful program. Over 3 completed seasons since South County opened, Coach Luther has led his team to 2 district championships, 3 regional playoffs (including a championship game), and a state semi-final. Doesn't seem to me like he's playing favorites, he does what he needs to win and he has succeeded. Aside from the 2 players mentioned earlier, no SC baseball players have had discipline problems. Coach Luther has nothing to do with their attitudes. He is a baseball coach, not a baby sitter. Anyone that has a problem with the incident that occurred with Seth needs to take it up with him. He is the only one that can make a change.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
baseball
()
Date: May 03, 2009 11:02PM
As you can see from two former players, Coach Luther does a great job with the players and deserves more credit than what he is getting. A couple of players do have some issues with their attitude but that does not reflect on how the coaches run the program.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Mark Luther Cheats
()
Date: May 04, 2009 04:06AM
baseball Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> As you can see from two former players, Coach
> Luther does a great job with the players and
> deserves more credit than what he is getting. A
> couple of players do have some issues with their
> attitude but that does not reflect on how the
> coaches run the program.
You did not mention all of the out of season practices he held over the winter on Fridays in the SOCO gym. Players who were going to tryout attended and all returning players attended also.Then he cuts players from these workouts before tryouts. Great guy.
What a great coach he is. He cheats to win by breaking VHSL and FCPS rules.
-------------------------------------------------------
> As you can see from two former players, Coach
> Luther does a great job with the players and
> deserves more credit than what he is getting. A
> couple of players do have some issues with their
> attitude but that does not reflect on how the
> coaches run the program.
You did not mention all of the out of season practices he held over the winter on Fridays in the SOCO gym. Players who were going to tryout attended and all returning players attended also.Then he cuts players from these workouts before tryouts. Great guy.
What a great coach he is. He cheats to win by breaking VHSL and FCPS rules.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Player
()
Date: May 04, 2009 03:31PM
Coach Luther did not run any off season practices. Some of the players decided they wanted some extra work so they got together and hit in the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day when the entire group of returning players all joined together. Clearly you do not have your facts straight and are most likely associated with someone who did not make the team, making you bitter towards him. That is not fair at all.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Digby's Mom
()
Date: May 04, 2009 06:38PM
Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
Don't you think he would make a better captain than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
Don't you think he would make a better captain than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Need answers
()
Date: May 05, 2009 06:53AM
Player Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Coach Luther did not run any off season practices.
> Some of the players decided they wanted some extra
> work so they got together and hit in the batting
> cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of
> these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day
> when the entire group of returning players all
> joined together. Clearly you do not have your
> facts straight and are most likely associated with
> someone who did not make the team, making you
> bitter towards him. That is not fair at all.
How did the players get to use the gym? Did they get a permit? Did they pay for the use of the gym? Who supervised these practice sessions? What adults were there?
Once again lots of questions and no answers from the SOCO cheaters.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Coach Luther did not run any off season practices.
> Some of the players decided they wanted some extra
> work so they got together and hit in the batting
> cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of
> these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day
> when the entire group of returning players all
> joined together. Clearly you do not have your
> facts straight and are most likely associated with
> someone who did not make the team, making you
> bitter towards him. That is not fair at all.
How did the players get to use the gym? Did they get a permit? Did they pay for the use of the gym? Who supervised these practice sessions? What adults were there?
Once again lots of questions and no answers from the SOCO cheaters.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: May 05, 2009 08:15AM
a permit? pay to use the school gym? you are retarded.
you know nothing about hs sports and your kid is barely good enough to make the babe ruth team. its tough to come to terms with your kid who sucks, but its easier if you and he just move on and join the drama club.
you know nothing about hs sports and your kid is barely good enough to make the babe ruth team. its tough to come to terms with your kid who sucks, but its easier if you and he just move on and join the drama club.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SoCo player
()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:02AM
I think someone has it out for Coach Luther. You are going to find mistakes and you are also going to find alot of positive things he has done. I think it's the players that win the game and we have a good team this year. The coaches have done a good job in allowing all players to particpate in the game when he can. It is unfortunate that others are not recognized and should be and have more playing time but if a player says anything he should be prepared to turn in his jersey because he'll never play. I don't think it's right that Townsends kid gets to start EVERY game when you have others that are just as skilled. Put a Senior in, it's his last year or few weeks left! I can see where there ARE favorites and it IS unfair. Too late now. Next year will be worse! I don't like HS sports and can't wait for college. It is so bad, unfair, and not fun. Coach Luther is cool, but doesn't see what he has done. Townsend is very self absorbed, just looking out for Joey, Carver is the BEST, never judges and keeps quiet and so does Nevins.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Thomas More
()
Date: May 05, 2009 11:29AM
Player Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> > Coach Luther did not run any off season practices. Some of the players decided they wanted some extra work so they got together and hit in the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day when the entire group of returning players all joined together. . . .< <
FCPS rules prohibit players from using building unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.
During the winter, winter sports teams would have first call on gym space.
How did the players get to use school facilities without adult supervision when the winter sports teams should have had first call on using the space?
-------------------------------------------------------
> > Coach Luther did not run any off season practices. Some of the players decided they wanted some extra work so they got together and hit in the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was never a day when the entire group of returning players all joined together. . . .< <
FCPS rules prohibit players from using building unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.
During the winter, winter sports teams would have first call on gym space.
How did the players get to use school facilities without adult supervision when the winter sports teams should have had first call on using the space?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Fan
()
Date: May 05, 2009 04:46PM
Thomas More Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Player Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Coach Luther did not run any off season
> practices. Some of the players decided they wanted
> some extra work so they got together and hit in
> the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present
> at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was
> never a day when the entire group of returning
> players all joined together. . . .< <
>
> FCPS rules prohibit players from using building
> unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.
>
> During the winter, winter sports teams would have
> first call on gym space.
>
> How did the players get to use school facilities
> without adult supervision when the winter sports
> teams should have had first call on using the
> space?
Sounds like Luther used his position as a teacher and the varsity baseball coach so that his players could practice in the gym out of season. Since he knows how to break rules, he should not be a HS coach.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Player Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > Coach Luther did not run any off season
> practices. Some of the players decided they wanted
> some extra work so they got together and hit in
> the batting cage. Coach Luther was never present
> at any of these, nor did he advise it. There was
> never a day when the entire group of returning
> players all joined together. . . .< <
>
> FCPS rules prohibit players from using building
> unsupervised. So an adult had to be present.
>
> During the winter, winter sports teams would have
> first call on gym space.
>
> How did the players get to use school facilities
> without adult supervision when the winter sports
> teams should have had first call on using the
> space?
Sounds like Luther used his position as a teacher and the varsity baseball coach so that his players could practice in the gym out of season. Since he knows how to break rules, he should not be a HS coach.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Questions
()
Date: May 05, 2009 10:15PM
SoCo player Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I think someone has it out for Coach Luther. You
> are going to find mistakes and you are also going
> to find alot of positive things he has done. I
> think it's the players that win the game and we
> have a good team this year. The coaches have done
> a good job in allowing all players to particpate
> in the game when he can. It is unfortunate that
> others are not recognized and should be and have
> more playing time but if a player says anything he
> should be prepared to turn in his jersey because
> he'll never play. I don't think it's right that
> Townsends kid gets to start EVERY game when you
> have others that are just as skilled. Put a Senior
> in, it's his last year or few weeks left! I can
> see where there ARE favorites and it IS unfair.
> Too late now. Next year will be worse! I don't
> like HS sports and can't wait for college. It is
> so bad, unfair, and not fun. Coach Luther is cool,
> but doesn't see what he has done. Townsend is very
> self absorbed, just looking out for Joey, Carver
> is the BEST, never judges and keeps quiet and so
> does Nevins.
What is the coaches son batting average and how many games has he started? Does he ever not play?
-------------------------------------------------------
> I think someone has it out for Coach Luther. You
> are going to find mistakes and you are also going
> to find alot of positive things he has done. I
> think it's the players that win the game and we
> have a good team this year. The coaches have done
> a good job in allowing all players to particpate
> in the game when he can. It is unfortunate that
> others are not recognized and should be and have
> more playing time but if a player says anything he
> should be prepared to turn in his jersey because
> he'll never play. I don't think it's right that
> Townsends kid gets to start EVERY game when you
> have others that are just as skilled. Put a Senior
> in, it's his last year or few weeks left! I can
> see where there ARE favorites and it IS unfair.
> Too late now. Next year will be worse! I don't
> like HS sports and can't wait for college. It is
> so bad, unfair, and not fun. Coach Luther is cool,
> but doesn't see what he has done. Townsend is very
> self absorbed, just looking out for Joey, Carver
> is the BEST, never judges and keeps quiet and so
> does Nevins.
What is the coaches son batting average and how many games has he started? Does he ever not play?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Not Digby's Mom
()
Date: May 06, 2009 09:58AM
Digby's Mom Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
>
> Don't you think he would make a better captain
> than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known jackass both on and off the field.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
>
> Don't you think he would make a better captain
> than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known jackass both on and off the field.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 06, 2009 11:58AM
Any further updates on the behavior of Coach Luther and his merry band of mal-contents?
I know this weather has cancelled some games, but keep us posted.
District Tournament right around the corner-that should fire em up!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
I know this weather has cancelled some games, but keep us posted.
District Tournament right around the corner-that should fire em up!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luthers Pet
()
Date: May 06, 2009 02:34PM
Not Digby's Mom Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Digby's Mom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
> >
> > Don't you think he would make a better captain
> > than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
>
> Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known
> jackass both on and off the field.
If he is such a jackass, why is he the team captain? Is he one of Luthers pets??
-------------------------------------------------------
> Digby's Mom Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Player, what is your opinion of Digby?
> >
> > Don't you think he would make a better captain
> > than that intemperate upstart, Seth Jordan?
>
> Nick Digby is a good guy. Seth is a well-known
> jackass both on and off the field.
If he is such a jackass, why is he the team captain? Is he one of Luthers pets??
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luther?
()
Date: May 09, 2009 05:18AM
Since this coach is not able to discipline his players he should not be a coach. I wonder if he is able to discipline his students, if not he should not be a teacher.
After 20 years as a baseball coach he should be able to teach his players how to hit, but he is not able to do this. He sends all of his players to a $450.00 hitting camp. Maybe he needs training on being a coach and a teacher.
After 20 years as a baseball coach he should be able to teach his players how to hit, but he is not able to do this. He sends all of his players to a $450.00 hitting camp. Maybe he needs training on being a coach and a teacher.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Seniors
()
Date: May 10, 2009 04:49AM
What a classless guy this coach is. On senior night at SOCO and playing Hayfield he did not start all of the seniors. What a way to treat the players who busted their butts for four years.
Mark Luther is a poor excuse for a high school coach.
Mark Luther is a poor excuse for a high school coach.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Re: seniors
()
Date: May 10, 2009 09:48AM
You're right he didn't start all of them. There are 12 seniors. He started 10 (one as a DH) and the other 2 went in later. DUH.
You tell me how to start 12?
You tell me how to start 12?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
B coach
()
Date: May 11, 2009 05:34AM
Mark Luther is a B division coach playing in a C division. He has gotten most of his wins over the years by playing weak teams and losing key games to strong teams. That is the reason he gets out of control when he plays Madison, WSHS, Lake Braddock and others.
Change is needed at SOCO.
Change is needed at SOCO.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ShakenBake
()
Date: May 11, 2009 09:39PM
The individual who started this forum on SOCO (really not all that hard to determine who the individual is) complains about cheating and fairness in high school sports. This is no way fair or moral, but we are talking about high school sports. If you want to discuss fair, moral or cheating, how about cheating on a loved one (ex. a wife). How fair is that? How moral is that? This is cheating, right?
Here is a new one for you; practice what you preach!
Here is a new one for you; practice what you preach!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Coach Luther
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Date: May 11, 2009 10:16PM
Unless I am convicted by the Rule Book and plain reason - I do not accept the authority of school boards or discussion boards and certainly not the Digbyists, for they have contradicted each other.
I cannot and I will not recant anything.
Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise.
Seth help me. Amen!
I cannot and I will not recant anything.
Here I stand. I cannot do otherwise.
Seth help me. Amen!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
foreversouthernmagnolia
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Date: May 12, 2009 02:09PM
Coach Luther is an excellent coach - he goes above and beyond to work with his team and would do anything to help them. I do not appreciate all of these crass, rude, untrue coments about Coach Luther. Stop - dont you people have a life?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: May 13, 2009 08:16AM
District tournaments start today.
Fasten your seat belts, ladies and gents.
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Fasten your seat belts, ladies and gents.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Zippy
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Date: May 13, 2009 10:59AM
Foreversouthernmagnolia: "dont you people have a life?"
That's really funny coming from someone who has obviously spent a lot of time scrolling through this thread to read all the "crass, rude, untrue comments about Coach Luther." Maybe YOU should get a life, flowerlady, before you turn up your little nose at the rest of us like all you SoCo people do. The SoCo baseball program is a cancer in the Northern Region, and that rot starts at the top.
That's really funny coming from someone who has obviously spent a lot of time scrolling through this thread to read all the "crass, rude, untrue comments about Coach Luther." Maybe YOU should get a life, flowerlady, before you turn up your little nose at the rest of us like all you SoCo people do. The SoCo baseball program is a cancer in the Northern Region, and that rot starts at the top.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Soco Fan
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Date: May 14, 2009 08:13AM
I think Brian Hall should be the new captain he is way better then all thosae white kids, represent the hood BRIAN, ayy do it for tha souf baby the dirty dirty
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
brandon griffin
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Date: May 14, 2009 08:53AM
I think I should be getting some more ab's especially after my walk against THE annandale atoms in a district game. thank you:) love you all
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
JoMO
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Date: May 14, 2009 11:34AM
I agree seth is a jackass and everybody in the dougout after a strikeout is scared for thier lives and well being and are not willing to die. So please Seth stop ramming your head into the fence and throwing stuuff
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Comdey Act
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Date: May 14, 2009 06:55PM
Personally i find all seths strikeout routines comical the smacking of the bat on the head the ramming of the head into the fence hes just as sore loser i say.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Concerned parent
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Date: May 14, 2009 08:34PM
JoMO Wrote:
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> I agree seth is a jackass and everybody in the
> dougout after a strikeout is scared for thier
> lives and well being and are not willing to die.
> So please Seth stop ramming your head into the
> fence and throwing stuuff
How long has this player been doing the above? What does the coach do when he gets crazy?
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> I agree seth is a jackass and everybody in the
> dougout after a strikeout is scared for thier
> lives and well being and are not willing to die.
> So please Seth stop ramming your head into the
> fence and throwing stuuff
How long has this player been doing the above? What does the coach do when he gets crazy?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Concerned Citizen
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Date: May 14, 2009 08:42PM
We all go a little mad sometimes. Haven't you?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
the stud
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Date: May 14, 2009 09:52PM
seth isnt a good player he sucks, he strikes with the bases loaded every time against west springfield. They need to get his ass out of there. i agree he is a jackass
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tyler frazier
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Date: May 14, 2009 09:58PM
I THINK JOEY TOWNSEND IS WORTHLESS, HE ISNT THAT GOOD. HE JUST SWINGS FOR THE FENCES. MY DAMN GRADNMA COULD DO THAT. OH AND SETH JORDAN IS A JACKASS, AND SHOULD JUST QUIT BASEBALL RIGHT NOW. MAKE US ALL HAPPY. I THINK THEY SHOULD KICK HIM OFF THE TEAM RIGHT NOW. THANK U AND HE SUCKS AT BASEBALL.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
so
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Date: May 14, 2009 10:09PM
Everyone plays favs.. The best player is usualy the fav because he can control an outcome of a game, that is like disciplining Lebron James, obviously he can do whatever he wants because he is the best player, a coaches job is to win and he will be fired if he doesn't so eliminating the best player would affect his job status...get use to it, your son obviously isn't getting playing time but that is to bad
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
joe townsend
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Date: May 14, 2009 10:40PM
haha who doesnt wanna swing for the fences...droppin bombs are the best. i dont care if i strikeout.
150 k's = 1 hr :)
150 k's = 1 hr :)
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
meh
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Date: May 14, 2009 10:52PM
uhhh stop hating on joey, when your son can get the ball out of the infield in BP then youre allowed to come back on the underground
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tyler lover12
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Date: May 14, 2009 10:55PM
tyler throws meat and teams like WS and LB who take 90mph BP in practice are so thrown off, take a seat brennan and quit whinning
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
baseball observer
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Date: May 14, 2009 10:58PM
You can't complain about Joey Townsend playing because when he has been in a slump coach has pulled him out of the lineup just like he should and given him chances and put him back in when he is producing.
Granted Seth should drop in the order to 6 7 or 8 or just maybe out of the lineup and just play defense but coach makes a lot of the right moves, however it does not help when you have a mom crying before the game about playing time when her son is the one pitching! Jesus Christ he has a lot to deal with as it is. He's obviously been doing the right thing making it to regionals the past 4 years in a brand new program and winning 2 district titles. Coach loves his players to compete and thats the mindset he has created in the program and it seems to work.
I think Digby has earned the right to be the captain on the team with his 7 homeruns. Seth I think needs to be pulled from his captain position and be handed to someone like Miller who has pitched a bunch of wins for the Stallions and has proved to be a leader. But overall coach has done a bunch of the right things and I would love to see ANY of you try and do what he does and not get complaints against you. think about that
Granted Seth should drop in the order to 6 7 or 8 or just maybe out of the lineup and just play defense but coach makes a lot of the right moves, however it does not help when you have a mom crying before the game about playing time when her son is the one pitching! Jesus Christ he has a lot to deal with as it is. He's obviously been doing the right thing making it to regionals the past 4 years in a brand new program and winning 2 district titles. Coach loves his players to compete and thats the mindset he has created in the program and it seems to work.
I think Digby has earned the right to be the captain on the team with his 7 homeruns. Seth I think needs to be pulled from his captain position and be handed to someone like Miller who has pitched a bunch of wins for the Stallions and has proved to be a leader. But overall coach has done a bunch of the right things and I would love to see ANY of you try and do what he does and not get complaints against you. think about that
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Digby's Mom
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Date: May 14, 2009 11:05PM
>I think Digby has earned the right to be the captain on the team with his 7 homeruns<
Thank you. You are not just a baseball observer, but a very astute baseball observer.
I am making up some "I Dig Digby" t-shirts, and will be passing them out at the next game. First come, first served.
Thank you. You are not just a baseball observer, but a very astute baseball observer.
I am making up some "I Dig Digby" t-shirts, and will be passing them out at the next game. First come, first served.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Pitching coach
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Date: May 14, 2009 11:29PM
>>tyler throws meat and teams like WS and LB who take 90mph BP in practice are so thrown off, take a seat brennan and quit whinning
You know Miller throws about 80% off speed pitches?? So its not like they square up his fastball. Miller has been in tons of varsity pressure situations and almost always works his way out, for example the game against west springfield. Frazier just has 2 starts this year. So maybe down the road he will be essesntial. But for right now I trust miller out there on the mound then anyone else on the team.
You know Miller throws about 80% off speed pitches?? So its not like they square up his fastball. Miller has been in tons of varsity pressure situations and almost always works his way out, for example the game against west springfield. Frazier just has 2 starts this year. So maybe down the road he will be essesntial. But for right now I trust miller out there on the mound then anyone else on the team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
sethsucks
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Date: May 15, 2009 11:49AM
Seth Jordan gets too frustrated all the freakin time!!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SoCo Will Win States :)
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Date: May 15, 2009 01:17PM
This thread is absolutely hilarious. In case you all don't know Digby and Michaels are the other 2 captains on the team. And yea Seth gets crazy on occasion, but he's gotten much better with his anger "problems." Seth still made 1st Team All District due to his reputation last year, but he obviously has the respect of all the other teams in the Patriot District or else they wouldn't have voted for him. And yes, Digby does have 7 Home Runs, but I don't think he's done yet. To whoever wrote the e-mail to Ms. Lipp...are you serious? You really took the time out of your day to complain that a player is cursing? It's high school baseball everybody curses along with the rest of high school sports. You get warned then you don't do it again. I'm sick of hearing people whine about no playing time in HIGH SCHOOL. Be lucky that you even made the team. To all the SoCo Haters...F*CK YOU ALL
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
IMME
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Date: May 15, 2009 11:27PM
i agree. its a sport and stuff happens.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Not Someone From SOCO
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Date: May 16, 2009 12:36AM
You guys are displaying the worst attitudes I have ever heard. I do not know if you all are parents wishing your kid wasn't riding pine or if you guys are just ridiculously obsessed with high school baseball wishing you were the head coach because all of you obviously have so much experience and would be so much better... Do any of you understand the pressure a head coach has to deal with? All the time they have to put in? If you all think Luther is a bad coach, look at his record, and look at how much the program matters to him. As someone who has played for Coach Luther, I can tell you that he has been one of the best coaches I have ever had and one that has helped me progress as a player. Get a life people and stop bashing a coach who wants to win.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Someone else not from SOCO
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Date: May 16, 2009 12:49AM
I've played against Coach Luther for 2 years and under him for a summer season and this could be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. A coach who will go out there and fight for you as hard as you fight for him is a good thing, not a bad thing. Apparently South County parents were the only ones who got the memo that anything less then saintly behavior on the baseball field is unacceptable. Seth is a 1st team all district player, and he holds himself to a higher standard then most players. Also the discussions on who should be playing over who have no merit. Coach Luther is the only one who can make that decision because he is the only one who puts in the work day in and day out. He also knows a hell of a lot about the game and he will put the best 9 out there he can, his record speaks for it's self. Benching a guy for that reaction is just showing him up. Coach Luther made the right call and if his actions show a little to much heart for you, you need to find another sport.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: May 16, 2009 08:04AM
Hey, glad to see all the SOCO boys and grads out in force. Great teamwork on the thread- at least your parents have stopped whining about fundraising!
Question: What happened to Jesse "rocket arm" Beal? ....He of the infamous regional game from last year...
Drafted by the Orioles last June, played some short-season rookie ball, and this year, can't find his name anywhere?
Is he playing somewhere? Trying to go to school? It's a shame he didn't take a scholarship and play in college. Going pro at 18 can be a rude awakening.
And to the "SOCO will win States" poster.....dream on. LOL
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Question: What happened to Jesse "rocket arm" Beal? ....He of the infamous regional game from last year...
Drafted by the Orioles last June, played some short-season rookie ball, and this year, can't find his name anywhere?
Is he playing somewhere? Trying to go to school? It's a shame he didn't take a scholarship and play in college. Going pro at 18 can be a rude awakening.
And to the "SOCO will win States" poster.....dream on. LOL
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ffxdude is a retard
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Date: May 16, 2009 12:48PM
jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles sarasota affiliate
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Beal.shtml
but why do you care so much about him anyways?
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Beal.shtml
but why do you care so much about him anyways?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Answer for ffxdude is a retard
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Date: May 16, 2009 01:12PM
ffxdude is a retard Wrote:
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?
Because he is a pole smoking faggot who likes highschool boys who 'pitch' and let him 'catch'!
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?
Because he is a pole smoking faggot who likes highschool boys who 'pitch' and let him 'catch'!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: May 16, 2009 02:48PM
ffxdude is a retard Wrote:
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?
I don't care at all--just curious.
Thanks for sending out of date LAST YEAR data though. Thats helpful.
I take it he's out of pro ball now?
Disregard INKY-Tard's post above. He's a DUI-ridden TROLL. LOL
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> jesse is playing rookie ball for the orioles
> sarasota affiliate
> http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jesse-Bea
> l.shtml
>
> but why do you care so much about him anyways?
I don't care at all--just curious.
Thanks for sending out of date LAST YEAR data though. Thats helpful.
I take it he's out of pro ball now?
Disregard INKY-Tard's post above. He's a DUI-ridden TROLL. LOL
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
hmmmm....
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Date: May 16, 2009 03:10PM
It is sad that this is a topic. Screamers are everywhere, from HS sports to the office. Coach Luther apparently knows enough to keep his team competitive. Everyone continues to say Seth Jordan has "problems". What if he does? You are saying someone who has a legitimate problem should not be allowed to play sports. Oh, and South County just beat Lake Braddock Friday to secure a spot in the Patriot District championship.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ffxdude is dumb
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Date: May 16, 2009 03:30PM
If Jesse Beal failed to make it in pro ball, that has what, exactly, to do with the issues being discussed in this thread?
It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's program.
Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps you struck out making a pass at him, only to be told fuck off, faggot.
Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.
It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's program.
Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps you struck out making a pass at him, only to be told fuck off, faggot.
Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
hahahahaha
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Date: May 16, 2009 03:39PM
ffxdude is dumb Wrote:
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> If Jesse Beal failed to make it in pro ball, that
> has what, exactly, to do with the issues being
> discussed in this thread?
>
> It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's
> program.
>
> Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps
> you struck out making a pass at him, only to be
> told fuck off, faggot.
>
> Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.
hahahahahhaahahah damn carried his ass nigga shit
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> If Jesse Beal failed to make it in pro ball, that
> has what, exactly, to do with the issues being
> discussed in this thread?
>
> It's certainly no knock on Luther, or Luther's
> program.
>
> Did Beal strike you out, or something? Or perhaps
> you struck out making a pass at him, only to be
> told fuck off, faggot.
>
> Speaking of which - fuck off, faggot.
hahahahahhaahahah damn carried his ass nigga shit
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: May 16, 2009 05:06PM
I thought Luther was the knock on his own program, per his behavior cited in this thread.
Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST year, per his behavior noted by the Washington Post, cited in this thread.
I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this thread.
Strike 3.
LOL.
Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)
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Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST year, per his behavior noted by the Washington Post, cited in this thread.
I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this thread.
Strike 3.
LOL.
Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ffxdude is dumb
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Date: May 16, 2009 05:12PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> I thought Luther was the knock on his own program,
> per his behavior cited in this thread.
>
> Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST
> year, per his behavior noted by the Washington
> Post, cited in this thread.
>
> I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on
> the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this
> thread.
>
> Strike 3.
>
> LOL.
>
> Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> (So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the
> Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)
Like I said earlier...fuck off faggot!
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> I thought Luther was the knock on his own program,
> per his behavior cited in this thread.
>
> Although Beal was a knock on the program LAST
> year, per his behavior noted by the Washington
> Post, cited in this thread.
>
> I guess some Jordan kid is THIS year's knock on
> the prgram, noted by his behavior, cited in this
> thread.
>
> Strike 3.
>
> LOL.
>
> Troll on! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>
> (So, in other words, Beal got sent home by the
> Orioles this year? Bummer, huh?)
Like I said earlier...fuck off faggot!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ffxdude is dumber than i thought
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Date: May 16, 2009 05:16PM
fairfax dude wrote: "Question: What happened to Jesse "rocket arm" Beal? ....He of the infamous regional game from last year...
Drafted by the Orioles last June, played some short-season rookie ball, and this year, can't find his name anywhere?
Is he playing somewhere? Trying to go to school? It's a shame he didn't take a scholarship and play in college. Going pro at 18 can be a rude awakening."
You're the one who made Beal's apparent failure to succeed in pro ball an issue, with your loaded "Question".
And you're the one who seems to take some grim pleasure from that fact.
But again, Beal's failure to make it in pro ball has nothing to do with any of the issues in this thread.
Fuckin' dumbass.
Drafted by the Orioles last June, played some short-season rookie ball, and this year, can't find his name anywhere?
Is he playing somewhere? Trying to go to school? It's a shame he didn't take a scholarship and play in college. Going pro at 18 can be a rude awakening."
You're the one who made Beal's apparent failure to succeed in pro ball an issue, with your loaded "Question".
And you're the one who seems to take some grim pleasure from that fact.
But again, Beal's failure to make it in pro ball has nothing to do with any of the issues in this thread.
Fuckin' dumbass.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
baseball55
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Date: May 16, 2009 05:41PM
Just so you know fairfax dude Beal is still in the pros and he isn't at home so go fuck yourself asshole and this is stupid players curse all the time the moms on this threads sons probably curse to and they arent disciplined so I don't know why there is all this hate for Seth Jordan.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCSS Senior
()
Date: May 16, 2009 06:38PM
hahahaha this is only a very miniscule portion of the problems at South County, I can't wait to get to college and leave this hell hole of a school behind. I honestly feel sorry for the younger kids at the school and their parents who have no clue what is yet to come at this fucking joke of a school.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 16, 2009 07:31PM
LOL, If all you anonymous trolling dimwits are from SOCO, no wonder the program has issues.
SCSS Senior: Take heart, it will all be over soon. LOL
Nice win over Lake Braddock, though.
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SCSS Senior: Take heart, it will all be over soon. LOL
Nice win over Lake Braddock, though.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ffxdude is a retard
()
Date: May 16, 2009 08:04PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> LOL, If all you anonymous trolling dimwits are
> from SOCO, no wonder the program has issues.
>
You, sir, are a bigger troll than I and have no clue about baseball.
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> LOL, If all you anonymous trolling dimwits are
> from SOCO, no wonder the program has issues.
>
You, sir, are a bigger troll than I and have no clue about baseball.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
wiseman
()
Date: May 16, 2009 09:09PM
do you people realize your talking about 18 year old kids?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
hmmmm.....
()
Date: May 17, 2009 09:31AM
wiseman Wrote:
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> do you people realize your talking about 18 year
> old kids?
Amen wiseman. Its sick, isn't it?
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> do you people realize your talking about 18 year
> old kids?
Amen wiseman. Its sick, isn't it?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
uhhhhhh
()
Date: May 17, 2009 08:33PM
arent we talkn about seth? not jesse
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Whoaaaaaaa
()
Date: May 17, 2009 10:15PM
uhhhhhh Wrote:
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> arent we talkn about seth? not jesse
No we are talking about Luther.
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> arent we talkn about seth? not jesse
No we are talking about Luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
uhhhhhh
()
Date: May 18, 2009 04:00PM
Whoaaaaaaa Wrote:
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> uhhhhhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > arent we talkn about seth? not jesse
>
> No we are talking about Luther.
its both dipshit
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> uhhhhhh Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > arent we talkn about seth? not jesse
>
> No we are talking about Luther.
its both dipshit
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
The SOCO Truth
()
Date: May 19, 2009 10:18AM
Luther is a white trash coach that definitely chooses players based on what the parents can do for him. Just look at Grasso's kid. Picked over more talented players 4 years in a row.
Lyons is a class act... PERIOD.
Seth gets his behavior from hid dad - biggest dick and brown noser in the game.
Michaels was chosen by Luther for the JV squad his freshman year even after he forgot how to throw a baseball during tryouts.
Why all the pressure to play and then if you're lucky (or unlucky) play ball at some low level non academic Division 3 school.
Would Luther have any luck if he was coach at Lee or Annandale? The answer is obvious.
Lyons is a class act... PERIOD.
Seth gets his behavior from hid dad - biggest dick and brown noser in the game.
Michaels was chosen by Luther for the JV squad his freshman year even after he forgot how to throw a baseball during tryouts.
Why all the pressure to play and then if you're lucky (or unlucky) play ball at some low level non academic Division 3 school.
Would Luther have any luck if he was coach at Lee or Annandale? The answer is obvious.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball
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Date: May 19, 2009 12:24PM
All your parents and players need to shut it. Just cause you suck at baseball doesnt mean you have to come on here and trash Luther. Maybe there is a reason why you dont or havent played. Get a grip and QUIT
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball II
()
Date: May 19, 2009 02:02PM
I think that the time has come for Luther to Quit
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
The SOCO truth
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Date: May 19, 2009 02:29PM
Hey Baseball - I did play in HS - Luther is an ass that needs to go. Give the team to Townsend or Lyons. Let Luther slink back into the kick-back hole he came from.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
South County
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Date: May 19, 2009 03:02PM
Why in the hell should Luther quit when he has 2 and possibly 3 district championships depending on tonight in 4 years at a brand new school?? Not to mention going to regionals all 4 years and making it to the state semi finals. Obviously you all don't know baseball because any school would love to have a coach that can produce that type of outcome
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
The SOCO truth
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Date: May 19, 2009 03:37PM
Winning districts with the talent at SOCO is no big deal. Its the BS and underhanded carp from Luther that has many pissed. It should be about the kids, buts it seems its all about Luther and buying the next can of Skoal.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SpartanFan
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Date: May 19, 2009 03:50PM
The SOCO truth Wrote:
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> it seems its all about Luther and
> buying the next can of Skoal.
Wow, he's a dipper? Yeehaw! Now you're talkin! Might have to hit em up for a pinch after the game.
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> it seems its all about Luther and
> buying the next can of Skoal.
Wow, he's a dipper? Yeehaw! Now you're talkin! Might have to hit em up for a pinch after the game.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball
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Date: May 19, 2009 04:07PM
I played for Luther. Maybe you just sucked at baseball. Maybe that is why you dont play and just complain about it cuz your to chicken shit to say something to him in person
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
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Date: May 19, 2009 04:11PM
If he's on the Skoal Train, then I'm all for him... you pussies just need to accept you're horrible athletes. Look into the drama club! They take everyone I hear.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth
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Date: May 19, 2009 08:59PM
I have talked to him in person many times and my kid has played for him. That's why I know the truth. Glad to see we have such redneck trash on the site today. Luther needs to work the sets for the drama club. Manual labor is all he's good for.
Let's hear from all the great baseball players that played for Luther. What are your plans after HS. Probably playing for Northwest Boondocks State - all that great discipline you learned from Luther. Congrats.
Let's hear from all the great baseball players that played for Luther. What are your plans after HS. Probably playing for Northwest Boondocks State - all that great discipline you learned from Luther. Congrats.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth is a giant faggot
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Date: May 19, 2009 11:22PM
Your kid probably sucked and didnt get to play which is why you're bitching about it on this site. And great baseball players who played for him at soco? Here's a list...
Kyle Hald - ODU
Mike Graham - VCU
Brent Frazier - ODU
Austin Lindley - CNU
Matt Reisinger - UVA at Wise
Jesse Beal - Maryland (Took PRO contract instead)
This year he has 2 players (Jordan and Digby) playing at Mary Washington and North Carolina Wesleyan, respectively. Get your shit straight douchebag you have no idea what you're talking about.
Let's also not forget the players he had at Hayfield as well. Ever remember Matt Townsend? He plays at JMU and will most likely get drafted in one of the first few rounds next year. Need I say more SOCO truth?
Kyle Hald - ODU
Mike Graham - VCU
Brent Frazier - ODU
Austin Lindley - CNU
Matt Reisinger - UVA at Wise
Jesse Beal - Maryland (Took PRO contract instead)
This year he has 2 players (Jordan and Digby) playing at Mary Washington and North Carolina Wesleyan, respectively. Get your shit straight douchebag you have no idea what you're talking about.
Let's also not forget the players he had at Hayfield as well. Ever remember Matt Townsend? He plays at JMU and will most likely get drafted in one of the first few rounds next year. Need I say more SOCO truth?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: May 20, 2009 08:26AM
Waaahhhh, my kid sucks so I'll blame the coach. Waaahhhhhh, he's biased, he cusses, he doesn't know baseball, he runs an out of control program. Waaahhhh, my kid sucks so I'll come to the interwebs and complain anonymously.
Look, your kid ain't good enough. No biggie, just move on. Find something your boy can succeed in and you can live vicariously through... srsly, the dwama club has openings...
Look, your kid ain't good enough. No biggie, just move on. Find something your boy can succeed in and you can live vicariously through... srsly, the dwama club has openings...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth
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Date: May 20, 2009 11:42AM
Sounds like momma raised some fouled mouth kids. I know Matt Townsend and he's a good kid. I imagine his dad had alot to do with his development. Wow ODU, VCU and UVA at where (Wise?). Great academic institutions. I'm sure faggot (is that the right term you HS punks use) Luther was so instrumental in getting natural talents like Graham, Beal and Frazier into the schools. You should all get your stories straight before spouting off. I'm sure your daddies sucked Luther's dick to ensure you playing time. Good luck at Nova.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
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Date: May 20, 2009 11:59AM
See what venom spews when you realize your child isn't as good as you think.... its tough to deal with, I'm sure. How about venting some of that unfulfillment on the interwebs?! Good Idea!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth is STILL a giant faggot
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Date: May 20, 2009 12:48PM
Who said anything about academic institutions? Maybe you should have been the one sucking the coach's dick since your son obviously got no playing time. And how the fuck do you know he had no part in getting them to those colleges (or the pros)? I've seen him write many many recommendation letters and speak to college coaches as well on the phone. So YOU need to shut the fuck up.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Madison Fan
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Date: May 20, 2009 01:29PM
SOCO truth is STILL a giant faggot Wrote:
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> Who said anything about academic institutions?
> Maybe you should have been the one sucking the
> coach's dick since your son obviously got no
> playing time. And how the fuck do you know he had
> no part in getting them to those colleges (or the
> pros)? I've seen him write many many
> recommendation letters and speak to college
> coaches as well on the phone. So YOU need to shut
> the fuck up.
You must be sucking Luthers dick if you know so much inside info. What else do you do for him? Wash his car, bring him lunch and do you take it in the ass?
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> Who said anything about academic institutions?
> Maybe you should have been the one sucking the
> coach's dick since your son obviously got no
> playing time. And how the fuck do you know he had
> no part in getting them to those colleges (or the
> pros)? I've seen him write many many
> recommendation letters and speak to college
> coaches as well on the phone. So YOU need to shut
> the fuck up.
You must be sucking Luthers dick if you know so much inside info. What else do you do for him? Wash his car, bring him lunch and do you take it in the ass?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth
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Date: May 20, 2009 02:58PM
I'm actually surprised Luther can write a coherent sentence. He is still a pole smoking faggot, just like all your Little league daddies. How's Grasso's kid doing on the team. Great pick my Luther. He really knows baseball. Glad to have him at SOCO. What a huge loss for Hayfield.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Spartan Fan
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Date: May 20, 2009 03:41PM
SOCO truth Wrote:
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> He is still a pole smoking faggot
Smoker?! I thought he was a dipper. Anyway, got to see most of the Patriot final and the player in question way back when this thread started was not nearly as bad as other SOCO players I witnessed after striking out. But, then again, when the middle of the lineup is as woeful as they were I'd be slamming my bat into the ground and cursing too. Now, is coach a smoker or dipper (or chewer)? Yeehaw! Who's your driver?
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> He is still a pole smoking faggot
Smoker?! I thought he was a dipper. Anyway, got to see most of the Patriot final and the player in question way back when this thread started was not nearly as bad as other SOCO players I witnessed after striking out. But, then again, when the middle of the lineup is as woeful as they were I'd be slamming my bat into the ground and cursing too. Now, is coach a smoker or dipper (or chewer)? Yeehaw! Who's your driver?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: May 20, 2009 04:45PM
So basically, nobody knows where Beal is playing this season, if at all?
Now back to the regularly scheduled "you're a faggot--no, YOU'RE a faggot" thread noise.
Carry on.
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Carry on.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Beal
()
Date: May 20, 2009 05:29PM
Beal is still in Rookie ball playing for the Orioles. Season starts in early June.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 20, 2009 08:07PM
Well, he isn't on the roster. Bluefield, right? Although, they only have 16 players listed, so obviously it's not a complete roster yet.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Beal
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Date: May 20, 2009 08:51PM
They are still in extended training right now so they just scrimmage other teams. Once it gets going the schedule is actually kind of strange. They play about 56 games but only against 4 other teams. I believe it is the Twins, Red Sox, Reds and Pirates. They play them in order over and over again
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Beal
()
Date: May 20, 2009 08:53PM
Sorry did not finish. No not Bluefield, that is Class A ball. Jesse is still in the Gulf Coast League down in Florida. He arrived there so late last year he only had 4 appearances
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Smoker
()
Date: May 20, 2009 09:51PM
Spartan Fan Wrote:
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> SOCO truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He is still a pole smoking faggot
>
> Smoker?! I thought he was a dipper. Anyway, got
> to see most of the Patriot final and the player in
> question way back when this thread started was not
> nearly as bad as other SOCO players I witnessed
> after striking out. But, then again, when the
> middle of the lineup is as woeful as they were I'd
> be slamming my bat into the ground and cursing
> too. Now, is coach a smoker or dipper (or
> chewer)? Yeehaw! Who's your driver?
How many SOCO players were cursing and slamming their bats after making out? What was the SOCO coaching staff doing as this was going on? There is no discipline being enforced by Mark Luther. He must be smoking something during games.
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> SOCO truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > He is still a pole smoking faggot
>
> Smoker?! I thought he was a dipper. Anyway, got
> to see most of the Patriot final and the player in
> question way back when this thread started was not
> nearly as bad as other SOCO players I witnessed
> after striking out. But, then again, when the
> middle of the lineup is as woeful as they were I'd
> be slamming my bat into the ground and cursing
> too. Now, is coach a smoker or dipper (or
> chewer)? Yeehaw! Who's your driver?
How many SOCO players were cursing and slamming their bats after making out? What was the SOCO coaching staff doing as this was going on? There is no discipline being enforced by Mark Luther. He must be smoking something during games.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Eyewitness
()
Date: May 21, 2009 08:21AM
Smoker Wrote:
>
> How many SOCO players were cursing and slamming
> their bats after making out? What was the SOCO
> coaching staff doing as this was going on? There
> is no discipline being enforced by Mark Luther. He
> must be smoking something during games.
One batter struck out, slammed his bat into the ground and cursed. Coach threw his Skoal tin at him and spit chew juice at the umpire. The real big SOCO coach on steroids choke-slammed the player. The SOCO team captain, who really shouldn't be captain, jumped on the big coach's back. The principal was watching but chose to do nothing. The parents of the players that never play were cheering. Then Beal, who may or may not be playing minor league ball, came out and pointed at the scoreboard and then threw a ball at a WSHS player. All of the little league daddies on the team were standing behind coach ready to fight anybody that got near him. Finally, the player that hits the homeruns and that should be captain and will play at Northwest Boondocks State next year came out and restored order. Then there was this creepy old guy watching from back in the woods with a F.I.S.S. shirt on wringing his hands and smiling. Man, never seen anything like it.
>
> How many SOCO players were cursing and slamming
> their bats after making out? What was the SOCO
> coaching staff doing as this was going on? There
> is no discipline being enforced by Mark Luther. He
> must be smoking something during games.
One batter struck out, slammed his bat into the ground and cursed. Coach threw his Skoal tin at him and spit chew juice at the umpire. The real big SOCO coach on steroids choke-slammed the player. The SOCO team captain, who really shouldn't be captain, jumped on the big coach's back. The principal was watching but chose to do nothing. The parents of the players that never play were cheering. Then Beal, who may or may not be playing minor league ball, came out and pointed at the scoreboard and then threw a ball at a WSHS player. All of the little league daddies on the team were standing behind coach ready to fight anybody that got near him. Finally, the player that hits the homeruns and that should be captain and will play at Northwest Boondocks State next year came out and restored order. Then there was this creepy old guy watching from back in the woods with a F.I.S.S. shirt on wringing his hands and smiling. Man, never seen anything like it.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WSHS Fan
()
Date: May 21, 2009 09:46AM
I love this post. Please keep it going so that the cry babies at SOCO have a place to vent.
No District title this year.
No District title this year.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: May 21, 2009 12:10PM
How did the 25 year old SS from WSHS play in the district title game?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 21, 2009 12:51PM
Blue Blood Wrote:
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> How did the 25 year old SS from WSHS play in the
> district title game?
There are some dumb posts in this thread, but you just took the cake.
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> How did the 25 year old SS from WSHS play in the
> district title game?
There are some dumb posts in this thread, but you just took the cake.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: May 21, 2009 01:37PM
Well...how did he do?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Eyewitness
()
Date: May 21, 2009 03:22PM
Blue Blood Wrote:
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> Well...how did he do?
In addition to carrying his team to victory, he was the epitome of sportsmanship. He applauded all of the SOCO players' efforts and, after witnessing several of them strike out, offered encouragement and tips on how they might better themselves. He all but apologized for hitting a home run against the SOCO starting pitcher and proceeded to make several outs the rest of the game in hopes of patching things up. Of course, the SOCO thugs shouted obscenities, spit tobacco juice, hit themselves over the head, and attempted to follow him into the parking lot for some good old fashioned vigilante justice. The out-of-control, undisciplined SOCO coaches were allegedly going to hold him down and shave his head. When will all of this insanity end? Poor Edison had better come with a police escort this Friday...better get your popcorn ready.
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> Well...how did he do?
In addition to carrying his team to victory, he was the epitome of sportsmanship. He applauded all of the SOCO players' efforts and, after witnessing several of them strike out, offered encouragement and tips on how they might better themselves. He all but apologized for hitting a home run against the SOCO starting pitcher and proceeded to make several outs the rest of the game in hopes of patching things up. Of course, the SOCO thugs shouted obscenities, spit tobacco juice, hit themselves over the head, and attempted to follow him into the parking lot for some good old fashioned vigilante justice. The out-of-control, undisciplined SOCO coaches were allegedly going to hold him down and shave his head. When will all of this insanity end? Poor Edison had better come with a police escort this Friday...better get your popcorn ready.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HS Baseball ?
()
Date: May 21, 2009 03:36PM
Eyewitness Wrote:
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> Blue Blood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well...how did he do?
>
>
> In addition to carrying his team to victory, he
> was the epitome of sportsmanship. He applauded all
> of the SOCO players' efforts and, after witnessing
> several of them strike out, offered encouragement
> and tips on how they might better themselves. He
> all but apologized for hitting a home run against
> the SOCO starting pitcher and proceeded to make
> several outs the rest of the game in hopes of
> patching things up. Of course, the SOCO thugs
> shouted obscenities, spit tobacco juice, hit
> themselves over the head, and attempted to follow
> him into the parking lot for some good old
> fashioned vigilante justice. The out-of-control,
> undisciplined SOCO coaches were allegedly going to
> hold him down and shave his head. When will all
> of this insanity end? Poor Edison had better come
> with a police escort this Friday...better get your
> popcorn ready.
Sounds like a normal out of control baseball game for SOCO.
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> Blue Blood Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well...how did he do?
>
>
> In addition to carrying his team to victory, he
> was the epitome of sportsmanship. He applauded all
> of the SOCO players' efforts and, after witnessing
> several of them strike out, offered encouragement
> and tips on how they might better themselves. He
> all but apologized for hitting a home run against
> the SOCO starting pitcher and proceeded to make
> several outs the rest of the game in hopes of
> patching things up. Of course, the SOCO thugs
> shouted obscenities, spit tobacco juice, hit
> themselves over the head, and attempted to follow
> him into the parking lot for some good old
> fashioned vigilante justice. The out-of-control,
> undisciplined SOCO coaches were allegedly going to
> hold him down and shave his head. When will all
> of this insanity end? Poor Edison had better come
> with a police escort this Friday...better get your
> popcorn ready.
Sounds like a normal out of control baseball game for SOCO.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Baseball55
()
Date: May 21, 2009 04:20PM
Actually the 25 year old hit a fucking bomb to dead center it was a shot and then in I think the 14th inning he stepped up again and cranked one to right he obviously thought it was gone so he flipped his bat and got ready to talk some shit, and then Digby robs the bitch and Bryn Renner flips out and throws his helmet from first base all the way to the WS dugout. Your right Renner is the epitome of sportsmanship I wish all SOCO players could throw their helmet like him and bitch like he does also after batters interference is called while he is stealing, fuck all the people on this board haha. Mark Luther is my hero.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
shutup
()
Date: May 21, 2009 06:20PM
WSHS Fan Wrote:
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> I love this post. Please keep it going so that the
> cry babies at SOCO have a place to vent.
>
> No District title this year.
shutup, it was a very great game and renner is a fag
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> I love this post. Please keep it going so that the
> cry babies at SOCO have a place to vent.
>
> No District title this year.
shutup, it was a very great game and renner is a fag
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO truth...grow up
()
Date: May 21, 2009 09:07PM
"Let's hear from all the great baseball players that played for Luther. What are your plans after HS."
Grow up first of all buddy, you're a dad and you should have better things to do than complain about a high school baseball coach. Lets talk academic instiutions, I played for Luther and almost every Ivy League team is interested in me, not to mention M.I.T and some patriot league schools....(every heard of them?) just because YOU probably went to NOVA which is why you're sitting on your old ass at your computer complaining instead having, lets say, a job, or a life?
Grow up first of all buddy, you're a dad and you should have better things to do than complain about a high school baseball coach. Lets talk academic instiutions, I played for Luther and almost every Ivy League team is interested in me, not to mention M.I.T and some patriot league schools....(every heard of them?) just because YOU probably went to NOVA which is why you're sitting on your old ass at your computer complaining instead having, lets say, a job, or a life?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Madison Fans Like To Suck Dick and Lose To SOCO
()
Date: May 21, 2009 09:16PM
Is Madison even in regionals? Um...that'd be a no. It's too bad SOCO doesn't play Madison again this time so they could be sent home after the first game...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: May 21, 2009 10:48PM
"The MIT is interested in me" guy is such a fool. You actually think SOCO truth is a dad. Haha... MIT my ass. Enjoy NOVA or UVA-Wise. I think Luther is actually smarter than you. Naw, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Sounds like "Blue blood" struck a cord with Renner's daddie.
Sounds like "Blue blood" struck a cord with Renner's daddie.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
MIT LOL
()
Date: May 22, 2009 10:27AM
Do MIT baseball players wear pocket protectors?
I bet they have the best-engineered cups in all of college ball, too.
Pussies.
I bet they have the best-engineered cups in all of college ball, too.
Pussies.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
hahahahahha
()
Date: May 22, 2009 02:55PM
MIT LOL Wrote:
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> Do MIT baseball players wear pocket protectors?
>
> I bet they have the best-engineered cups in all of
> college ball, too.
>
> Pussies.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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> Do MIT baseball players wear pocket protectors?
>
> I bet they have the best-engineered cups in all of
> college ball, too.
>
> Pussies.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
funny
()
Date: May 23, 2009 11:49AM
You must have missed all the other schools I named...so suck a fat one, you guys can have fun getting your 2.0 gpa and going to community colleges and prep schools. have fun on the bench while you're at it
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: May 23, 2009 12:44PM
Hey MIT - you didn't actually name any other schools - you only threw out words like Ivy and Patriot (which to me means you're going to Mason). Which school will you be attending. May 1st was the deadline for accepting a college. Do tell.
Luther is still an ass an we all know it.
Luther is still an ass an we all know it.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 23, 2009 01:41PM
Mason is in the CAA, and it's good baseball. The Patriot includes such stalwarts as Army, Navy, Lafayette, and Cornel. Oh, and American U. NOT such good baseball.
Oh well.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Dear 1st Base
()
Date: May 24, 2009 12:05AM
Mason IS in the CAA so you're an idiot. Cornell is in the Ivy fairfaxdude.
Oh and I'm only a junior buddy, so again, you're an idiot. Also, last year, Bucknell won the Patriot League, then went on to the NCAA tourny and shut out Florida State...
So keep it coming big guy
Oh and I'm only a junior buddy, so again, you're an idiot. Also, last year, Bucknell won the Patriot League, then went on to the NCAA tourny and shut out Florida State...
So keep it coming big guy
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 24, 2009 08:53AM
My bad, I meant to type Colgate. You know, like the toothpaste.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
balldude
()
Date: May 24, 2009 08:54AM
Grasso doesn't have a kid on the team. What are you thinking?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
balldude
()
Date: May 24, 2009 09:01AM
reading all this makes you hate baseball, hate coaches, and hate High school sports. What is wrong with everyone?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: May 24, 2009 06:19PM
Hey balldude - please look into the relation between Gharib and Grasso. Might open your eyes.
Actually its coaches like Luther that makes one hate baseball.
Actually its coaches like Luther that makes one hate baseball.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Love
()
Date: May 25, 2009 01:07PM
Hey balldude - please look into the relation between Mr. Miller and Luther?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 25, 2009 09:00PM
Westfield 3- SOCO 1...season over now. Any firsthand reports on Luther's behavior during this game?
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WSHS Fan
()
Date: May 25, 2009 09:15PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> Westfield 3- SOCO 1...season over now. Any
> firsthand reports on Luther's behavior during this
> game?
No Regional title and No State title for SOCO. Wait till next year.
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> Westfield 3- SOCO 1...season over now. Any
> firsthand reports on Luther's behavior during this
> game?
No Regional title and No State title for SOCO. Wait till next year.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 25, 2009 09:39PM
Well, and no District title either, just to be comprehensive.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
WSHS Fan
()
Date: May 26, 2009 07:01AM
When SOCO plays good teams they do not score runs. Why? Does anyone know their team batting average against teams that have winning records?
Time for Luther to go.
Time for Luther to go.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Brandon G
()
Date: May 26, 2009 08:18AM
I never start and I'm clearly the best
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
hmmmm......
()
Date: May 26, 2009 04:56PM
WSHS Fan Wrote:
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> When SOCO plays good teams they do not score runs.
> Why? Does anyone know their team batting average
> against teams that have winning records?
> Time for Luther to go.
I don't know, maybe because good teams have good pitchers? The pitcher on Westfield had thrown a perfect game, and over at WS, you have two high level D1 pitchers. And what is James doing over there, by the way? You have 3 seniors playing at ACC or SEC schools in college, and still lost when it came time to play your equals. Beating up on the district isn't impressive. Spring break showed your true colors. Have fun losing to Menchville in states.
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> When SOCO plays good teams they do not score runs.
> Why? Does anyone know their team batting average
> against teams that have winning records?
> Time for Luther to go.
I don't know, maybe because good teams have good pitchers? The pitcher on Westfield had thrown a perfect game, and over at WS, you have two high level D1 pitchers. And what is James doing over there, by the way? You have 3 seniors playing at ACC or SEC schools in college, and still lost when it came time to play your equals. Beating up on the district isn't impressive. Spring break showed your true colors. Have fun losing to Menchville in states.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
bballdude
()
Date: May 27, 2009 03:35AM
Heard there was another cussing incident with the Catcher #3 at the Regional game when he struck out.....this team has no class. Who is enforcing sportsmanship?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Parent
()
Date: May 27, 2009 05:16AM
bballdude Wrote:
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> Heard there was another cussing incident with the
> Catcher #3 at the Regional game when he struck
> out.....this team has no class. Who is enforcing
> sportsmanship?
#3 is John Fitzgerald, Sr catcher. He has been out of control for four years. Most of the players are good kids, but there are several player who lack any sportsmanship or control. Everybody knows who they are, including the entire coaching staff.
Luther does nothing because he has no back bone.
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> Heard there was another cussing incident with the
> Catcher #3 at the Regional game when he struck
> out.....this team has no class. Who is enforcing
> sportsmanship?
#3 is John Fitzgerald, Sr catcher. He has been out of control for four years. Most of the players are good kids, but there are several player who lack any sportsmanship or control. Everybody knows who they are, including the entire coaching staff.
Luther does nothing because he has no back bone.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fuck SOCO parents
()
Date: May 27, 2009 03:11PM
Yet another parent dissapointed that their child isn't playing? Why call out John? That's just rediculous. Everyone on the team curses once in a while when they don't perform the way they should. Who the FUCK cares? Oh wait, the parents who are dissapointed that their child isn't playing. Sorry I forgot.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BBALL Dude
()
Date: May 27, 2009 05:49PM
I don't think its parents who kids aren't playing that are complaining . The coaches have done a good job about trying to get players in when they can. I do think it parents fault for not teaching there kids self control, sportsmanship and being a team player even if you lose. It's the coaches faults for not supporting the rules of following good sportsmanship conduct at all times. Cussing should not be heard out loud during a game for all ears. It does happen but when it becomes public then it is out of control. SoCo is out of control.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: May 27, 2009 06:53PM
SOCO is also done for the season. But that's another thread, I suppose.
Just because a few parents stepped in to whine, doesn't discount the fact that the SOCO team has perhaps the worst reputation in the Northern Region for out-of-control, on field decorum (or lack thereof), led/allowed by Luther, the coach. Most of the other bullshit on here is just noise.
Summer ball behavior reports, anyone? I suppose if the SOCO summer players can man up and take a strikeout without throwing gear and/or cursing, then the Luther proof is in the SOCO pudding. LOL
As they say, there's always next year!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Just because a few parents stepped in to whine, doesn't discount the fact that the SOCO team has perhaps the worst reputation in the Northern Region for out-of-control, on field decorum (or lack thereof), led/allowed by Luther, the coach. Most of the other bullshit on here is just noise.
Summer ball behavior reports, anyone? I suppose if the SOCO summer players can man up and take a strikeout without throwing gear and/or cursing, then the Luther proof is in the SOCO pudding. LOL
As they say, there's always next year!
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
URsuchatwat
()
Date: May 27, 2009 07:43PM
fairfaxdude Wrote:
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> SOCO is also done for the season. But that's
> another thread, I suppose.
>
> Just because a few parents stepped in to whine,
> doesn't discount the fact that the SOCO team has
> perhaps the worst reputation in the Northern
> Region for out-of-control, on field decorum (or
> lack thereof), led/allowed by Luther, the coach.
> Most of the other bullshit on here is just noise.
>
> Summer ball behavior reports, anyone? I suppose
> if the SOCO summer players can man up and take a
> strikeout without throwing gear and/or cursing,
> then the Luther proof is in the SOCO pudding. LOL
>
> As they say, there's always next year!
Give your SOCO diatribe a rest; everyone knows that Madison cheats like crazy and its whole reputation is going down, down, down.
And why is your little tag line based on a lame commercial?
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> SOCO is also done for the season. But that's
> another thread, I suppose.
>
> Just because a few parents stepped in to whine,
> doesn't discount the fact that the SOCO team has
> perhaps the worst reputation in the Northern
> Region for out-of-control, on field decorum (or
> lack thereof), led/allowed by Luther, the coach.
> Most of the other bullshit on here is just noise.
>
> Summer ball behavior reports, anyone? I suppose
> if the SOCO summer players can man up and take a
> strikeout without throwing gear and/or cursing,
> then the Luther proof is in the SOCO pudding. LOL
>
> As they say, there's always next year!
Give your SOCO diatribe a rest; everyone knows that Madison cheats like crazy and its whole reputation is going down, down, down.
And why is your little tag line based on a lame commercial?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOC PARENTS UNITE
()
Date: May 27, 2009 08:26PM
Has anybody thought about bondo, hes failing 3 fucking classes, and yet he starts on varsity? Yes he is talented, but i still do not understand, another thing ABOUT Mark Luther playing favorites
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
mdubbs
()
Date: May 27, 2009 08:30PM
hey twat man, maybe big 23 has the talent to back up what he says, and here you are saying shit about a very talented athelete, he said one thing, whoopdefucking doo, dosnt everyone? honestly, tell me you havent said something stupid and loud enoguh for a parent/ coach to do.
But someone who doesnt have the talent to back it up is Mr. Ace Evan Beal, who is in fact worse than his brother in the attitude sense, he gets called up and still has the same shitty attitude he will always have.
But someone who doesnt have the talent to back it up is Mr. Ace Evan Beal, who is in fact worse than his brother in the attitude sense, he gets called up and still has the same shitty attitude he will always have.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
back again:)
()
Date: May 27, 2009 08:34PM
hey for all of you Luther haters, just want to put it out there, how many patriot district title did soco get in the first two years? Yeah it was two, more than a few of you schools have had in 5 years, so maybe you should grow some balls (patriot district titles) before you try to fry how a coach does his job.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Big stink at SOCO
()
Date: May 27, 2009 09:17PM
SOC PARENTS UNITE Wrote:
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> Has anybody thought about bondo, hes failing 3
> fucking classes, and yet he starts on varsity? Yes
> he is talented, but i still do not understand,
> another thing ABOUT Mark Luther playing favorites
If the above is true Luther needs to resign. What is more important, winning or this players grades? What else does Luther fail to do? Something is rotten at SOCO.
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> Has anybody thought about bondo, hes failing 3
> fucking classes, and yet he starts on varsity? Yes
> he is talented, but i still do not understand,
> another thing ABOUT Mark Luther playing favorites
If the above is true Luther needs to resign. What is more important, winning or this players grades? What else does Luther fail to do? Something is rotten at SOCO.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:30AM
I think Luther fails to address the pussified, anonymous, cowardly, spineless and inaccurate claims levied by douchey SOCO parents whose boys ain't good enough to play.
SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!1!!!!
SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!!1!!!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bondo
()
Date: May 28, 2009 08:59AM
SOC PARENTS UNITE Wrote:
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> Has anybody thought about bondo, hes failing 3
> fucking classes, and yet he starts on varsity? Yes
> he is talented, but i still do not understand,
> another thing ABOUT Mark Luther playing favorites
Teknikly, I am only failing 2 graids. Butt I am awl rejun baby! And I am the onlee playa that playd evry ining this yeer! Wate til nekst yeer baby!
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> Has anybody thought about bondo, hes failing 3
> fucking classes, and yet he starts on varsity? Yes
> he is talented, but i still do not understand,
> another thing ABOUT Mark Luther playing favorites
Teknikly, I am only failing 2 graids. Butt I am awl rejun baby! And I am the onlee playa that playd evry ining this yeer! Wate til nekst yeer baby!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bondo
()
Date: May 28, 2009 09:04AM
Did I menshin that I am Koach Luther (I kall him Mark) favrit playa? I kan do no rong baby!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
a grasso tragedy
()
Date: May 29, 2009 09:27AM
Funny how that Grasso name keeps popping up
What a nightmare that guy has been and is for high school sports
What a nightmare that guy has been and is for high school sports
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: May 29, 2009 11:16AM
Grasso is a slimy SOB, but is harmless compared to Luther.
Emeritus Q. Beaker is obviously a baby of a little league daddy that did everything Luther wanted to ensure playing time. Baseball players in general are pussified, so I miss your point you are trying to make.
Emeritus Q. Beaker is obviously a baby of a little league daddy that did everything Luther wanted to ensure playing time. Baseball players in general are pussified, so I miss your point you are trying to make.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Mark Luther is a Pussy
()
Date: May 29, 2009 01:37PM
When you play favorites and ass kiss the parents, nobody has respect for you.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BBall dude
()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:06PM
Isn't it funny how Grasso's name pops up? Funny....no FANTASTIC...YES! If you are doing the right thing you shouldn't have anything to worry about. He has resources that you couldn't imagine so be careful little league Dad. He may be rough around the edges, not a "people guy" but he knows what he is doing, his heart is for student players being treated equal and having fairness in school sports. From what I know of SoCo Varsity baseball, you have kids that are failing, cursing loud and on the field, money from fundraising that isn't accounted for and thats why this blog never stops. When you get rid of the wrong stuff there is no reason for a Grasso and a few other um-mentionables. Do what right and don't worry about aything. This blog is a playground for the players that have no idea what really is going on. What goes around...comes around.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Joltin' Joe from SoCo
()
Date: May 29, 2009 10:12PM
BBall dude Wrote:
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> Isn't it funny how Grasso's name pops up?
> Funny....no FANTASTIC...YES! If you are doing the
> right thing you shouldn't have anything to worry
> about. He has resources that you couldn't imagine
> so be careful little league Dad. He may be rough
> around the edges, not a "people guy" but he knows
> what he is doing, his heart is for student players
> being treated equal and having fairness in school
> sports. From what I know of SoCo Varsity baseball,
> you have kids that are failing, cursing loud and
> on the field, money from fundraising that isn't
> accounted for and thats why this blog never stops.
> When you get rid of the wrong stuff there is no
> reason for a Grasso and a few other
> um-mentionables. Do what right and don't worry
> about aything. This blog is a playground for the
> players that have no idea what really is going on.
> What goes around...comes around.
Wow, that was pretty obtuse, even for FFU!
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> Isn't it funny how Grasso's name pops up?
> Funny....no FANTASTIC...YES! If you are doing the
> right thing you shouldn't have anything to worry
> about. He has resources that you couldn't imagine
> so be careful little league Dad. He may be rough
> around the edges, not a "people guy" but he knows
> what he is doing, his heart is for student players
> being treated equal and having fairness in school
> sports. From what I know of SoCo Varsity baseball,
> you have kids that are failing, cursing loud and
> on the field, money from fundraising that isn't
> accounted for and thats why this blog never stops.
> When you get rid of the wrong stuff there is no
> reason for a Grasso and a few other
> um-mentionables. Do what right and don't worry
> about aything. This blog is a playground for the
> players that have no idea what really is going on.
> What goes around...comes around.
Wow, that was pretty obtuse, even for FFU!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: May 31, 2009 10:37PM
Thanks to all for a great thread. Sorry to see it end. Pure entertainment.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BS at SOCO
()
Date: June 01, 2009 05:01AM
No the bull shit will continue at SOCO, it will just be another sport.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: June 01, 2009 04:33PM
Thank God for great SOCO coaches like Pete Bendorf. Luther is misplaced coaching HS kids, He should focus on coaching to an adult church league team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Alan Gharib
()
Date: June 03, 2009 01:54PM
all you dumb ass mother fuckers needs to stop tryna fry our baseball team. just because you all fucking suck dick and bitch about the dumbest shit, doesnt mean you have to start this shit. :]
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Seth Jordan
()
Date: June 03, 2009 03:28PM
I think that Luther should coach a Little League team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
yours
()
Date: June 03, 2009 09:56PM
Whats FFU mean?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Grasso
()
Date: June 03, 2009 11:07PM
>I think that Luther should coach a Little League team.<
Luther already is coaching a little league team.
Luther already is coaching a little league team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Alan Gharib can't play
()
Date: June 04, 2009 10:22AM
Does Luther suck Grasso's dick or does Grasso suck Luther's dick. That is the question. If only we knew.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dsnipper77
()
Date: June 04, 2009 10:32AM
Society:
-Blame others for the poor parenting
-Why is it a coaches fault that a kid is failing? why cant the parents yank his butt off the field or team?
-Should a parent be ashamed that their kid is cursing on the field or in public? someone didnt use soap!
-Take responsiblity for your kids, dont blame someone else for stuff you should of corrected a longggggg time ago
-Luther is probably the second best coach in the NR I would say Rutherford would get the top nod.
-Its his job to coach baseball, its the parents job to raise great men that have values and morals!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2009 10:33AM by dsnipper77.
-Blame others for the poor parenting
-Why is it a coaches fault that a kid is failing? why cant the parents yank his butt off the field or team?
-Should a parent be ashamed that their kid is cursing on the field or in public? someone didnt use soap!
-Take responsiblity for your kids, dont blame someone else for stuff you should of corrected a longggggg time ago
-Luther is probably the second best coach in the NR I would say Rutherford would get the top nod.
-Its his job to coach baseball, its the parents job to raise great men that have values and morals!
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/04/2009 10:33AM by dsnipper77.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
unbelievable
()
Date: June 13, 2009 09:45AM
Luther strikes again with the teams awards, favoring undeserving players....After all this nonsense about Seth Jordan and his cussing outbursts over the last couple of years, Luther still managed to give his "BEST PLAYER" (what a joke),co-MVP of the Stallions, along with Nick Digby who clearly deserved it alone...I noticed at the team dinner last thursday that Digby's father wasn't even present and that he is so disgusted with Luther that he told him he'd never speak with him again...It's funny how High School coaches think they have all this power with the other coaches in the district/region and can pick and choose on who they want to win these awards...My son has one more year at South County and I have seen more than enough of Luther/Smith and Townsends bullshit, maybe Grasso would be interested in the truth about the South County baseball programs..Hey Luther, did Seth Jordan learn all that foul language from you or his obnoxious dad...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
unbelievable2
()
Date: June 13, 2009 09:55AM
You forgot to say that Seth Jordan is playing in the Northern Region All- Star game as a "STARTER" and Digby was only an alternate. How ridiculous is that. Has anyone been more screwed than Digby on the baseball field????
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Greek Philosopher
()
Date: June 13, 2009 12:23PM
Jealousy and Envy the root of all evil. oh yeah its all about u
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Devil
()
Date: June 13, 2009 02:19PM
unbelievable Wrote:
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> Luther strikes again with the teams awards,
> favoring undeserving players....After all this
> nonsense about Seth Jordan and his cussing
> outbursts over the last couple of years, Luther
> still managed to give his "BEST PLAYER" (what a
> joke),co-MVP of the Stallions, along with Nick
> Digby who clearly deserved it alone...I noticed at
> the team dinner last thursday that Digby's father
> wasn't even present and that he is so disgusted
> with Luther that he told him he'd never speak with
> him again...It's funny how High School coaches
> think they have all this power with the other
> coaches in the district/region and can pick and
> choose on who they want to win these awards...My
> son has one more year at South County and I have
> seen more than enough of Luther/Smith and
> Townsends bullshit, maybe Grasso would be
> interested in the truth about the South County
> baseball programs..Hey Luther, did Seth Jordan
> learn all that foul language from you or his
> obnoxious dad...
In order to play at South County you had to sell your soul to the Devil and his band of brothers. When you do this all of the above is what you get. Send Luther and his brothers back to Hayfield.
Everbody knows that Digby is the MVP of the team.
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> Luther strikes again with the teams awards,
> favoring undeserving players....After all this
> nonsense about Seth Jordan and his cussing
> outbursts over the last couple of years, Luther
> still managed to give his "BEST PLAYER" (what a
> joke),co-MVP of the Stallions, along with Nick
> Digby who clearly deserved it alone...I noticed at
> the team dinner last thursday that Digby's father
> wasn't even present and that he is so disgusted
> with Luther that he told him he'd never speak with
> him again...It's funny how High School coaches
> think they have all this power with the other
> coaches in the district/region and can pick and
> choose on who they want to win these awards...My
> son has one more year at South County and I have
> seen more than enough of Luther/Smith and
> Townsends bullshit, maybe Grasso would be
> interested in the truth about the South County
> baseball programs..Hey Luther, did Seth Jordan
> learn all that foul language from you or his
> obnoxious dad...
In order to play at South County you had to sell your soul to the Devil and his band of brothers. When you do this all of the above is what you get. Send Luther and his brothers back to Hayfield.
Everbody knows that Digby is the MVP of the team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
question
()
Date: June 13, 2009 03:47PM
norhtern region all star team?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Gameday Mag
()
Date: June 13, 2009 04:11PM
Yes a High School Seniors All-Star game put on by Gameday Magazine played at Chantilly HS tonight 6/13. Go to Gamedaymagazine.com to find out all the details. All players from around the Northern and Northwest Region were chosen by Gameday Magazine employees
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
patient observer
()
Date: June 13, 2009 04:19PM
Greek Philosopher, are you the one that takes it up the ass from Luther or do you fuck him in the ass? Probably both. Maybe you are Luther, checking up on your hate mail coach?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Ghariby
()
Date: June 13, 2009 04:22PM
Too bad I didn't barf on you Coach when I had the chance. Dip'n is the best
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fucklutherandSmith
()
Date: June 14, 2009 12:00PM
I should of spit mine at you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!fucktard
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: June 14, 2009 11:18PM
Well well well... looks like Luther has struck again. South County will be much better off once Luther heads back to Hayfield. I feel the pain of the parents and players that still have top put up with his BS. Thank God may son is graduating in 4 days. On to better things.
Nick's dad has never been a fan of Luther. Seth's dad on the other hand has always been in his back pocket. You do the math.
Keep on dippin' and screwin' the kids Luther.
Nick's dad has never been a fan of Luther. Seth's dad on the other hand has always been in his back pocket. You do the math.
Keep on dippin' and screwin' the kids Luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: June 14, 2009 11:25PM
SOCO Truth Wrote:
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> Well well well... looks like Luther has struck
> again. South County will be much better off once
> Luther heads back to Hayfield.
Struck again? Do tell.....
Back to Hayfield?......details, pls.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well well well... looks like Luther has struck
> again. South County will be much better off once
> Luther heads back to Hayfield.
Struck again? Do tell.....
Back to Hayfield?......details, pls.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Parent
()
Date: June 15, 2009 05:55AM
SOCO Truth Wrote:
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> Well well well... looks like Luther has struck
> again. South County will be much better off once
> Luther heads back to Hayfield. I feel the pain of
> the parents and players that still have top put up
> with his BS. Thank God may son is graduating in 4
> days. On to better things.
>
> Nick's dad has never been a fan of Luther. Seth's
> dad on the other hand has always been in his back
> pocket. You do the math.
>
> Keep on dippin' and screwin' the kids Luther.
Luther has done the same BS for years. He played favorites at Hayfield and he is doing the same at SOCO. There are lots of parents that have to do stuff for Luther or else.
This is not what HS baseball should be about. He needs to go.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well well well... looks like Luther has struck
> again. South County will be much better off once
> Luther heads back to Hayfield. I feel the pain of
> the parents and players that still have top put up
> with his BS. Thank God may son is graduating in 4
> days. On to better things.
>
> Nick's dad has never been a fan of Luther. Seth's
> dad on the other hand has always been in his back
> pocket. You do the math.
>
> Keep on dippin' and screwin' the kids Luther.
Luther has done the same BS for years. He played favorites at Hayfield and he is doing the same at SOCO. There are lots of parents that have to do stuff for Luther or else.
This is not what HS baseball should be about. He needs to go.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: June 15, 2009 09:56AM
The woed is that Hayfield isn't pleased with their Baseball coach and might be willing to take Luther back. I doubt Luther would want to go - not enough talent remaining at Hayfield.
Grasso really wanted the SOCO job when the school was opening. Not sure of his present interest. I imagine Luther kept picking Gharib over numerous more talented players in order to appease Grasso. If not, Grasso would have put the full court press on for the Head Coach position. Grasso would have steam rolled Luther.
Grasso really wanted the SOCO job when the school was opening. Not sure of his present interest. I imagine Luther kept picking Gharib over numerous more talented players in order to appease Grasso. If not, Grasso would have put the full court press on for the Head Coach position. Grasso would have steam rolled Luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Another witness
()
Date: June 15, 2009 10:00AM
unbelievable Wrote:
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> ...I noticed at
> the team dinner last thursday that Digby's father
> wasn't even present and that he is so disgusted
> with Luther that he told him he'd never speak with
> him again...My
> son has one more year at South County and I have
> seen more than enough of Luther/Smith and
> Townsends bullshit...
Hmmm, let's see...there were 2 junior players in attendance (Townsend being one) and the parent of another junior who wasn't in attendance. I believe one of the 2 players in attendance did not have a parent there. Coach Townsend was there. Unless you're lying about your son having one more year, then this can only be the rantings of one bitter parent. May be interesting next year.
-------------------------------------------------------
> ...I noticed at
> the team dinner last thursday that Digby's father
> wasn't even present and that he is so disgusted
> with Luther that he told him he'd never speak with
> him again...My
> son has one more year at South County and I have
> seen more than enough of Luther/Smith and
> Townsends bullshit...
Hmmm, let's see...there were 2 junior players in attendance (Townsend being one) and the parent of another junior who wasn't in attendance. I believe one of the 2 players in attendance did not have a parent there. Coach Townsend was there. Unless you're lying about your son having one more year, then this can only be the rantings of one bitter parent. May be interesting next year.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
()
Date: June 16, 2009 04:20PM
I imagine the other junior is the kid that claims MIT is interested in him.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
question??
()
Date: June 16, 2009 09:12PM
wasn't there 4 juniors on that team?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth again
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Date: June 16, 2009 09:23PM
Why is there so much anger at SOCO. Does Coach Luther only like 1 player? Who is the bitter parent Luther is referring too? Are there so many unhappy parents that no one knows who he is talking about?...I've had alot of catching up to do, someone help fill in the blanks...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st base
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Date: June 17, 2009 12:10PM
The anger at SOCO ref Luther is that he doesn't put the players first. He picks numerous players every year based on what the parents can do for him. HS baseball should be for the kids.
"Those you can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym" Luther epitomizes this saying.
"Those you can't do, teach. Those who can't teach, teach gym" Luther epitomizes this saying.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
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Three problems at SOCO
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Date: June 17, 2009 02:38PM
SOCO has three major problems. They are Luther, Townsend and Smith.
When they go things will be better for the players.
When they go things will be better for the players.
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Posted by:
Oh really?
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Date: June 17, 2009 03:17PM
Three problems at SOCO Wrote:
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> SOCO has three major problems. They are Luther,
> Townsend and Smith.
>
> When they go things will be better for the
> players.
Actually 4...but you're leaving. Along with your whiny, untalented son and his career .240 batting average. Have fun playing slow-pitch softball (co-ed).
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> SOCO has three major problems. They are Luther,
> Townsend and Smith.
>
> When they go things will be better for the
> players.
Actually 4...but you're leaving. Along with your whiny, untalented son and his career .240 batting average. Have fun playing slow-pitch softball (co-ed).
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: June 18, 2009 07:54AM
Sounds like "Oh really" is one of those dads that has his d... up Luther's ass. Gotta make sure little Jimmy gets to play.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Not me....
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Date: June 18, 2009 10:32AM
I was told that someone was impersonating me on this site and YOU better stop right now...I have never participated on this website before and hopefully this will be the last time. After reading all this bullshit crying and bitching about your sons not playing or the coaches aren't fair, whatever, why don't you go voice your displeasure to the coaches...I did this already and I wish I would have done it in differently, but what's done is done... Whoever is acting like me to get whatever point accross, stop dragging me into this. I can see how one would percieve this to be me, but I would do this face to face and not hide behind this stupid forum. Now if you think it's me that's one thing. if you are writing about my son that's something altogether different.If I find out who you are (and I will) I feel sorry for you. It better not be you Mark.... you think Grasso is a pest, wait until I'm through with you.
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Posted by:
Not me
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Date: June 18, 2009 10:49AM
Just for the record, I feel very strongly that my son was screwed over, but I still never dogged his coaches...Why no one voted for him in district and regionals is beyond me....I guess I'll never know the answers to the million questions I have, but I have never thought any less of Luther, Smith and Townsend, all who could be Head Coaches anywhere. To me, Townsend knows more than any of them, but he's coaching for the same reasons I would, to make sure his son doesn't get screwed over....Too bad I stopped coaching.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
LOLcat
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Date: June 18, 2009 03:10PM
I has a way tew dissaplin playehs
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Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: June 19, 2009 11:55AM
Not me Wrote:
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I guess I'll never know the answers to the million questions I have.....
Don't you really just have ONE question?
"Why, oh why, was my son so screwed over?"
I'm just sayin......
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I guess I'll never know the answers to the million questions I have.....
Don't you really just have ONE question?
"Why, oh why, was my son so screwed over?"
I'm just sayin......
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: June 19, 2009 03:34PM
His son was screwed over because the dad wasn't hovering at every tryout, practice, and game like a majority of the SOCO baseball dads.
Hey Luther, want your car washed?
Hey Luther, want your car washed?
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Posted by:
Blue Blood
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Date: June 20, 2009 11:26PM
TTT
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: June 22, 2009 01:11PM
TTT?
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Expirenced Coach
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Date: June 22, 2009 02:41PM
I have coached baseball for almost 28 years. I have been involed in baseball since I was 7 I palyed and in college and in the minors to the AA level. I have coached at High School and college levels I won a State championship coaching at High School level, Played and in and coached at the the college world series. I have never heard more Parents complain at any level more than the Virginia High School Level. I do not know Coach Luther nor Townsand But I think this weekend I saw one or both of them coach the Soco travel team. What I saw was two coaches who know the game. My first High schol I had pleasure of coaching my son's both played varsity as frwshman both started. We heard parents say they were only on the team because of me. I told both of my sons to do there talking on the field. My oldest has a college world series ring from RICE. he is now with the AAA Paw Soxs. My second is at LSU and a 2nd team sec player as a sophmore. I do not know Coach Luther's record and I do not agree with him not having a displine team or player, but if he was coaching this weekend the team was displined and well coached. I know and have dealth with several parents who have inflated images of ther kids ability. We call them a human IRA. The truth is 1 palyer in a million even gets a shot. Lets get real I have two more sons and not a day goes by that my youngest who is a fresman in High School does not get e-mails or calls from teams. I have cards of pro scouts that have been handed to him but the truth is he might not even get a shot. My other just signed letter of intent to USC. He might not get a shot. Remenber this is High School and baseball is a game not life and death
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: June 22, 2009 03:34PM
Great credentials, coach, but if you saw Luther Or Townsend coaching a "SOCO travel team", then they did it against VHSL rules. I know they're trying to change that rule, but as of yet, HS coaches can't coach their teams outside the regular school season. So it was probably not them.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Expirenced Coach
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Date: June 22, 2009 04:01PM
I did not say it was his High School team. It was a 13u travel team. Which is is not aginst the rules. I know because I coach in a program that has several High School coaches involved. I also know of serveral H.S. coaches who have somewhat feeder programs like ours. The players on our teams are from various High Schools not just the schools we coach at.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: June 22, 2009 04:58PM
Coach, you and I both know what the rules are, and we both know coaches who skate close to the line. And we both know that even at 13u, there can't be more than 3-4 SOCO-jurisdiction players on that team. Hence, we both know that has nothing to do with how the SOCO HIGH SCHOOL team was led, disciplined, or not, over the last 2-3 years. Don't bullshit a bullshitter, Coach.
Keep doin what you're doin--youth baseball needs more of you. Unless you're Luther that is.
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Keep doin what you're doin--youth baseball needs more of you. Unless you're Luther that is.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
get a life
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Date: June 23, 2009 12:20AM
You guys are losers, stop talking bad about Luther. Grow a pair of balls and stop posting behind a blog name on a stupid website. Im disgusted by all of you. And Blue Balls or whatever your name is, the kid who "claims" MIT wants him (they actually do) doesnt go to SOCO. You are an idiot. Sorry that you all have nothing better to do than rip on a high school baseball coach who devotes his own personal time to develop teenagers while getting paid probably 25 cents per hour
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
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Date: June 23, 2009 09:35AM
Hey "get a life"...what's your name. Seems you're hiding behind an internet screen name. I know personally the BS that Luther pulls. Based on the observations of "Experienced Coach" seems that Luther is up to his old tricks.
You might like Luther becaused your daddy did everything Luther wanted. I don't play that game. Good luck in the real world where daddy can't help.
Luther is bad for HS baseball and needs to find employment elsewhdere.
You might like Luther becaused your daddy did everything Luther wanted. I don't play that game. Good luck in the real world where daddy can't help.
Luther is bad for HS baseball and needs to find employment elsewhdere.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dickhead
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Date: June 24, 2009 08:28AM
Hey Oh Really....what whiny, untalented kid are you referring too who batted .240 for his high school career? There were only a couple of kids (to my knowledge) that were told they'd be great softball players when they got older....and I know the motherfuckers who said that!!! Just wait, I'll run into you eventually.....
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
gggg
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Date: June 24, 2009 03:24PM
u all need to grow up
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
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Date: June 24, 2009 03:26PM
Fairfaxdude: TTT=To The Top (used to refreash a thread)
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Dad
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Date: June 25, 2009 03:09PM
Hell, Luther is my only son and even I don't like him.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Fire Luther
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Date: June 26, 2009 01:06PM
Mark Luther...we barely knew ya. Good luck in your next career. The SOCO basball class of 2010 and their parents thanlk you for moving on.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
gggg
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Date: June 26, 2009 05:56PM
fire luther??? Look what's left to choose from. Not any better that's for sure
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: June 27, 2009 03:03PM
Lyons and Townsend are both lights years ahead of Luther. Heck, even the girls soccer coach would be better.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
ha ha
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Date: June 27, 2009 04:39PM
if you look at all the other schools, they have same problems but their parents aren't crying about their kids not playing. That's what this really about.Plus they dont have all these fathers trying to coach their kids.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: June 27, 2009 05:27PM
Because of Luther the parents feel the need to constantly hover. If not, their kids get screwed. Luther is crooked and is bad for SOCO baseball and the kids that play and don't play.
SOCO baseball has the worst "daddy ball" I've ever seen, including LL all-stars.
SOCO baseball has the worst "daddy ball" I've ever seen, including LL all-stars.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: June 27, 2009 06:48PM
I thought this thread was about SOCO players cursing and throwing helmets in HS baseball games, and the head coach's lack of leadership and discipline.
Who gives a shit about all this other crap?
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Who gives a shit about all this other crap?
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Former SC Hawks
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Date: June 27, 2009 08:45PM
Hey SOCO truth - You must have had some stake in the program to display this much hatred. The guy must do something right. They won two titles, went to a Regional Final, a state semi-final and played in the regional tournament for straight years. You call it "daddy ball" they must call it winning. Oh yes you have never done that before.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Umpire
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Date: June 27, 2009 08:48PM
Coming from the other side of the fence, our association considers South County a very respectable program. We have a pretty good idea since we are at every game.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood
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Date: June 27, 2009 10:30PM
I don't know why I keep coming back to this thread. Thanks to "Umpire" for a different perspective. I know Luther, and frankly don't care for him and his lack of discipline. SOCO looses a ton of talent this year - let's see how Luther does next year...hopefully his last.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Blue Blood is an idiot
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Date: June 28, 2009 12:33AM
you're an idiot. get a life.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
umpire
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Date: June 28, 2009 10:06AM
Now I am curious, share some of the examplesof lack of discipline. There was the one at WS but any others?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Montpelier
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Date: June 29, 2009 01:44PM
Does anyone have anything good to say about Luther. Seems like he's kind of slimy and should be doing something else.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
trust, but verify
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Date: June 29, 2009 03:02PM
"Expirenced" Coach must be a Republican. He doesn't get that you can check the internet and find out that there aren't players with the same last name on the Rice 2003 roster, the LSU 2009 roster, and the current Pawsox roster. Either he's lying or his kids are so ashamed they changed their last names.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
VA lifer
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Date: June 29, 2009 04:37PM
Good research "trust, but verify". I think this whole thread is a bunch of folks spouting off either in favor or against this Luther guy. Doesn't matter how good his record is (remember that HS baseball doesn't matter), if he lets his players cuss and scream, he needs to change or go do somethinmg else.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Special Eddie
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Date: June 29, 2009 04:48PM
I likes Luther Guy. He helpes me on th inner nets. He cute too.
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Posted by:
1st Base
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Date: June 30, 2009 01:36PM
That dude looks like Sanjaya from American Idol
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Southren coach
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Date: July 01, 2009 01:54PM
I too was at the same tournament the 13u SOCO team played. I do not know coach Luther and would not know him if he was standing infront of me. I currently coach High school South of fairfax County I have not encountered the SOCO coach. You are right about the rules about a coach coaching a summer or fall team . VHSL rule do allow coaches to coach if the team is mixed and a certain percentage of the team are from other schools. We all know, and all coaches bend this rule with their AAU teams. The team I watched that represented Soco was a fairly talented team . I do know their coach was highly vocal and might need to back down a bit, but I did not see any displine problems. I was only watching for a few innings. I too have plenty of parents who are quick to voice opinions on how I coach If thay are reasonable I listen if not well their son can sit in the bleachers. In the past years I have actully bounced two players from teams for actions in practice and in the 3rd inning of a game this year after a player argued a call tossed a helmet and bat instructed him to remove his Jersy leave my field and tossed him off the team. His father called the school board and I had to justify my actions. I must say my AD and Princpal backed me 100%. At the H.S level I expect mature players and not little boys. all the players were starters and all finished the season as students not student ath. The one thing I have not read in this blog is anyone confronting Coach Luther. I find it hard to respect people who can not voice their opinions to the person thay have the problem with. I receive quite a few e-mails from moms and dads who disagree with my rules or how I coach. My answer is always the same after practice I will be glad to discuss this with them one on one. Some have taken me up on the offer and when I explain my actions some go away mad some go away understanding. Not all players are Big league materal, and just because they made the team, does not indicate they are the most talented for that position or situation. Before you ask, none of my sons play for me or have ever played for me, Both went to a differnt school and the only time I ever talked to their coach is when we played each other and my son Pitched a 1 hitter aginst us. He did not even make the connection as botyh my sons never told him I coached at County High school.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Rulesman:-)
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Date: July 01, 2009 05:10PM
For informational purposes. A HS coach can coach any team of their choosing provided not more than 1/3 of the roster comes from his/her base school. Grades 9-12 only. Graduated Seniors do not fall into this category nor do rising 7th or 8th graders.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Born to be wild
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Date: July 02, 2009 02:48PM
Luther sucks!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
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Date: July 03, 2009 10:32PM
Looks like we have a quorum. Luther is bad with the kids and must go to pasture.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Marauder
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Date: July 11, 2009 06:26PM
I wonder if Luther has any children that will want to play baseball. It would be interesting to see how bad Luther would hover if he wasn't able to coach them.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
gggg
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Date: July 11, 2009 10:34PM
let's fire all of them and start over
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: July 12, 2009 04:04PM
Only Luther needs to be fired.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: July 18, 2009 09:53AM
So is he still there? Updates, people!
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: July 18, 2009 11:55AM
For another 4 or so years:-)
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bland Guy
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Date: August 08, 2009 09:52AM
It's the middle of Summer and Luther still sucks!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Lee Dad
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Date: August 08, 2009 02:07PM
Yes he still sucks. He needs to go back to Hayfield and fix the mess he made when he went to SOCO.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 09, 2009 09:36PM
Luther can fix anything. He's very adept however at creating messes.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdudes
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Date: August 09, 2009 10:17PM
Funny thing is if Luther went back to Hayfield they would probably win a National District title. Lee Dad didn't Luthers last team at Hayfield play for the Regional Championship?
"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results."
....Albert Einstein
"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results."
....Albert Einstein
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: August 10, 2009 10:58PM
Oh my, a poser.
Imagine that.
Dumbass.
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Imagine that.
Dumbass.
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 10, 2009 11:14PM
All of Hayfield's talent is now at SOCO. What teams are in the National District? Unless its Stuart, Wakefield, Falls Church etc, Luther still couldn't win anything.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SC Parent
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Date: August 11, 2009 07:00AM
How good of a baseball coach is Luther, when he has to send all of his players to winter hitting clinics? Is he not able to teach HS players how to hit the ball?
I think not.
I think not.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 12, 2009 09:26PM
Luther just wants kick-backs from all the clinics he wants his players to attend in the off-season. He's slimy, dumb, and a bad coach to boot.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
we'll take Luther
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Date: August 12, 2009 09:57PM
Hey you whiners at SOCO - we'll take Luther at TCW. Our coach sucks. Our coach is more interested in what we wear and what managers he can hook up with. A little cursing and throwing helmets is fine with us. We would love to have a coach that actually is more concerned about winning a baseball game, and less concerned about how he looks and if he can get drunk and screw high school girls.
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Posted by:
SCParent
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Date: August 13, 2009 07:07PM
we'll take Luther Wrote:
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> Hey you whiners at SOCO - we'll take Luther at
> TCW. Our coach sucks. Our coach is more interested
> in what we wear and what managers he can hook up
> with. A little cursing and throwing helmets is
> fine with us. We would love to have a coach that
> actually is more concerned about winning a
> baseball game, and less concerned about how he
> looks and if he can get drunk and screw high
> school girls.
You can have him and his daddy ball staff.
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> Hey you whiners at SOCO - we'll take Luther at
> TCW. Our coach sucks. Our coach is more interested
> in what we wear and what managers he can hook up
> with. A little cursing and throwing helmets is
> fine with us. We would love to have a coach that
> actually is more concerned about winning a
> baseball game, and less concerned about how he
> looks and if he can get drunk and screw high
> school girls.
You can have him and his daddy ball staff.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
we'll take Luther
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Date: August 14, 2009 01:27PM
hey do you really think SoCo is the only team with Daddy Ball? If so, you are a idiot. We have daddy ball plus a coach who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. So get real. At least Coach Luther knows strategy and how to win. doesn't chase your girlfriend around is not concerned with his suntan and teeth whitener what the latest fashion is.
just saying you guys could have it way worse. your coach knows baseball .
daddy's who are sucking up to the coach know their kid sucks
just saying you guys could have it way worse. your coach knows baseball .
daddy's who are sucking up to the coach know their kid sucks
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
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Date: August 15, 2009 08:54AM
So Luther is on his way to TCW?
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Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 16, 2009 06:53PM
Anywhere but SOCO. He's an embarassment to the profession.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SCPlayer
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Date: August 17, 2009 01:06PM
All players at SOCO know that Luther plays favorites.It is all about what parents can do for Luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HS player
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Date: August 17, 2009 02:40PM
If it is so painful at SOCO - why don't you (or your kid) just quit? Why put up with it if it is so bad? You hide behind these boards - I bet you have never spoken to the coach in person have you. Big man. Wuss.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
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Date: August 17, 2009 03:59PM
these whiny bitches are embarrassments to parenting... your boy ain't good enough. move on...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
gggg
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Date: August 21, 2009 11:30AM
Use to be a Luther backer but no more. He needs to go and so does the rest of the staff, Start over
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tcw
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Date: August 21, 2009 05:20PM
hey we'll take luther, shut the hell up. im at tc and you can suck one. did we not just have one of the greatest seasons in history of our school? i hope your bitchass doesnt see the field you scrub
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
we'll take luther
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Date: August 21, 2009 07:48PM
Hey TCW - I heard the coach got your girlfriend drunk and screwed her in south carolina. her underware smelled like skoal and he left a orange streak on her from his fake tan. I think all the coaches passed her around like a crack pipe he scrapped his knuckle while trying to fight off the other coaches. too bad loser. and no you won't see me on the field dickhead. hahahahaha
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Tcwesuckbigtime
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Date: August 21, 2009 11:49PM
greatest season in school history ? Your are f'g joke - YOU GUYs SUCK and so does your nancy coach. SoCo beat your ass, so did WS, so did LB oh and you guys got beat by Westpo and Hayfield.
Yeah, def something to brag about. What a loser.
Yeah, def something to brag about. What a loser.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tcw
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Date: August 22, 2009 12:35AM
so we'll take luther why dont you tell me your name? why wont you see me on the field?
and tcwsuckbigtime-suck one
and tcwsuckbigtime-suck one
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tcw
()
Date: August 22, 2009 12:43AM
What girlfriend anyway? you tool you have no idea what happened. probably because youre an asshole parent or because you were on jv because you suck
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Hitnrun
()
Date: August 22, 2009 12:56PM
Some of you may know me from hsbaseball web where i had ridiculous opinions about tcw baseball's staff. I'm here to attempt to redeem myself in the eyes of tcw parents and players. We didn't actually loose to hayfield but we did loose to west po. that loss was clearly on the coaches because the team really played well in that game. If coach luther is being offered the tcw job id like to throw my name in for consideration. its obvious i have lots of free time on my hands from all of the times iv posted in the past.
* views expressed in this post reflect only those of a insane parent and are not backed by anyone affiliated with tcw baseball
Foreskin
* views expressed in this post reflect only those of a insane parent and are not backed by anyone affiliated with tcw baseball
Foreskin
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: August 24, 2009 09:33PM
Hey tcw - please come and take Luther. I'll even pay for postage.
Then truth and nothing but the truth
Then truth and nothing but the truth
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
tcw
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Date: August 25, 2009 12:40AM
you guys should be glad to have Luther, he's a winning coach who does what needs to be done to win ballgames. he's also one of the nicest men ive ever met. we dont need a new coach, sorry. ours has done miracles for our program
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Brown nose at SOCO
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Date: August 26, 2009 06:29AM
TCW, I wonder if Luther stops short your nose will be up his ass.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Amazed
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Date: August 26, 2009 05:24PM
I'm a coach in the region and am amazed at all the banter. I've lived in Fairfax a long time and know how passionate people are about high school sports, but SOCO and TC both have good, quality coaches, one a veteran and one a good up and comer who is only going into his second year for crying out loud. As I remember, both teams made the regionals. There can only be one champion. I've sat in at meetings with them and they both support their players 110%, they don't say anything negative about any of them. And I have never seen any player not give 110% for them. Those TC kids bust their butts down to first on ground outs whether they're up by 10 or down by 10. Trust me "we'll take Luther", if you don't want your coach, there are plenty of schools that do. There are more schools than there are good coaches, and hes one of them. And I dont understand the SOCO problem. This post has been on here a long time. It isnt right to anonymously slander a man like this. Coaching is basically a volunteer job. Tell me what you volunteer year-round for...on weeknights, weekends, in rain, heat, etc.
Keep in mind that you never see coaches on here blasting players or parents. It could go both ways, but it never does. Some of you should consider taking the high road, and contact your coaches directly with complaints instead of acting tough behind a screenname. Not just SOCO and TC, but all schools and activities.
Keep in mind that you never see coaches on here blasting players or parents. It could go both ways, but it never does. Some of you should consider taking the high road, and contact your coaches directly with complaints instead of acting tough behind a screenname. Not just SOCO and TC, but all schools and activities.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Player
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Date: August 27, 2009 10:04AM
To Brown Nose at Soco,
I played with Luther last summer and he was one of the best coaches Ive ever had. Clearly it paid off because this season I was first team all region, so he did something right, yes I do attribute some of my success to him.
And to Amazed,
Thank you for saying all that, youre absolutely right, these coaches dont get paid and they probably lose money because they sacrifice their own lives to coach kids. I have no problem putting my name out there, so all you complainers out there need to put a name next to what youre saying. Grow a pair.
I played with Luther last summer and he was one of the best coaches Ive ever had. Clearly it paid off because this season I was first team all region, so he did something right, yes I do attribute some of my success to him.
And to Amazed,
Thank you for saying all that, youre absolutely right, these coaches dont get paid and they probably lose money because they sacrifice their own lives to coach kids. I have no problem putting my name out there, so all you complainers out there need to put a name next to what youre saying. Grow a pair.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 29, 2009 10:43PM
Player - what's your name - who said you have no problem putting your name out there. Grow a pair and tell us. I know all the SOCO players - can't wait to hear yours.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SC Player
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Date: August 29, 2009 11:42PM
I am on the team at SC and I don't have one problem with Luther, if he played favorites we wouldn't have won as many games as we did. Luther is a good coach and wants to win.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: August 29, 2009 11:59PM
How much did your daddy have to pay to ensure your spot (just kidding). That's why this thread never dies. Luther frequently plays favorites to those kids whose daddies can do something for him. The whole Grasso / Gharib scenario proves that in spades.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Real Truth
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Date: August 30, 2009 07:45AM
This thread will never die. Luther does play favorites and everybody knows it at SOCO.If you want you kid to make the team you better get your check book out.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Cookin Wit The Neeley's
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Date: August 30, 2009 08:48AM
This die will never thread. Play does Luther favorites and it at everybody SOCO. Better kid you want make if the check you team book your out.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Player
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Date: August 30, 2009 09:36PM
Im not on soco...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BB Coach
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Date: August 31, 2009 12:42PM
I love the people who say or ask how much did your daddy pay to have you on the team or play. You would think if that were true these people who say this would be the first people running to write a check to have their kid play.
The truth is this some of your kids are not as talented as some other kids.
The position they are trying to play is not suited for them but they refuse to try anywhere else becuase Daddy who coached them for most of their life has told them they are the next Jeter.
The hardest decisions I have had to make was cutting players. That is why before try outs, I have a meeting with every parents and tell them the cold hard facts. I have for fall ball 55 players In the spring,I will have at least that many. Not to mention 10 or so Football players who are returning baseball players. My Jv team will have 7 position varsity 4 That is 11 positions for my guess is 60 to 65 kids who try out. When I meet with the parents they know this from the start. I then ask them to take their son out of the equation and see if they would like to have to tell 54 player they did not make it.Before you ask or comment I do not just post a list, I tell the players face to face they have not made the team. THis is more than you did with Coach luther.
The truth is this some of your kids are not as talented as some other kids.
The position they are trying to play is not suited for them but they refuse to try anywhere else becuase Daddy who coached them for most of their life has told them they are the next Jeter.
The hardest decisions I have had to make was cutting players. That is why before try outs, I have a meeting with every parents and tell them the cold hard facts. I have for fall ball 55 players In the spring,I will have at least that many. Not to mention 10 or so Football players who are returning baseball players. My Jv team will have 7 position varsity 4 That is 11 positions for my guess is 60 to 65 kids who try out. When I meet with the parents they know this from the start. I then ask them to take their son out of the equation and see if they would like to have to tell 54 player they did not make it.Before you ask or comment I do not just post a list, I tell the players face to face they have not made the team. THis is more than you did with Coach luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: September 01, 2009 01:11PM
BB Coach- are you Luther? If so, you're a liar. If not, good luck to your team next Spring.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
bb Coach
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Date: September 01, 2009 02:12PM
I am not Luther nor have I met or played aginst him. I do not coach in the same distrct. I just know what coachs deal with. I would love to have a chance to play SOCO. Based on what I have heard the team is highly competitive. I do know a former student from SOCO who when I showed them this, said " We loved coach Luther he made the baseball team win" No this was not a former player it was a student .. I think his winning record should speak as to what kind of a coach he is, and I get the feeling the people who do not like him have been told they are not the right person to play on his team, or refused to work on their short comings to try and make the team. When I cut players I give them a reason why. The coaches I have talked to who know Coach Luther have nothing but praise so I think like most coaches he would do the same. Two things I have learned the coaches and umps who sit in the bleachers are always perfect in their mind. My wife and younger Child got upset listening to peole watching a game talk about me once. I told her , calmly if they are as good as they think then why are they on that side of the fence and not this.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Get Real
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Date: September 01, 2009 03:38PM
bb Coach Wrote:
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> I do know a
> former student from SOCO who when I showed them
> this, said " We loved coach Luther he made the
> baseball team win" No this was not a former
> player it was a student
Sounds like a real reliable (and manly!) source. And if my wife and child were upset over comments made about me I'd be in someone's face.
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> I do know a
> former student from SOCO who when I showed them
> this, said " We loved coach Luther he made the
> baseball team win" No this was not a former
> player it was a student
Sounds like a real reliable (and manly!) source. And if my wife and child were upset over comments made about me I'd be in someone's face.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
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Date: September 02, 2009 11:17PM
BB Coach - People are not on your side of the fence because HS baseball coaches don't get paid sh.. For Luther that's OK - for others, it depends on if they're more concerned about their won/loss record or developing the character of young men. Luther is more concerned about the former. That's why so many SOCO folks want him out.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Rules
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Date: September 03, 2009 05:57AM
Luther has always had two sets of rules. One for his favorites where he does nothing and one for the rest of the team where he cracks the whip.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BB coach
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Date: September 03, 2009 01:40PM
First Off If I did get in someones face for words said, about me which my wife over heard, I would then have dropped to the level of behavior which started this thred. As for those who believe at the High School sports level it is not about wins and losses, you are living in a dream world. I would also ask if you are a parent. If so and you are worried about the character of the young men what have you been doing for the first 15 years to foster good character. You would also be foolish to think I change a kid in 10 hours a week for a few months. I am not their father and I have solution to bad sports and palyers with attitude towards me umps or fans They leave. I have sent starters bench players, and actully fired coaches for this. They are no longer a part of my team. Thery can try out next year and I have several J.V and freshman palyers who I can bring up. As for the pay you are right we do not get much for me this is not a problem. I give my stipen to the bosters.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: September 05, 2009 10:16AM
BB Coach - the problem is that the players take on the personality and demeanor of their coach. Luther sets a horrible example, and that's why his players frequently act like asses during games. Please keep in mind that HS baseball wins and losses DO NOT MATTER. It's not life and death. It's about preparing kids to become better citizens through teamwork and discipline.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: September 05, 2009 12:49PM
First off as a coach, you are judged on a few things
1. Win/Loss Record
2. PLayer Development ( physically, psychologically, and socially)
3. Help young people have fun
For all you parents has Luther not had a good win/loss record? How many players has he sent to college to play college ball? and how many players hve developed as a person.
Most of the people on here are upset because their son doesnt play at SOCO or got cut. Yes, there are times where Luther is a little over the edge, but you know what that goes back to the VHSL. I know college coaches have a code of conduct where they have to follow, which if they get ejected they have sit out and pay fines.
My one thing I will say to you parents and kids, is that if you think Luther is so bad, then why dont you try and coach. Having a winning team, sending players to college, and helping players develop. While having a family in the process
1. Win/Loss Record
2. PLayer Development ( physically, psychologically, and socially)
3. Help young people have fun
For all you parents has Luther not had a good win/loss record? How many players has he sent to college to play college ball? and how many players hve developed as a person.
Most of the people on here are upset because their son doesnt play at SOCO or got cut. Yes, there are times where Luther is a little over the edge, but you know what that goes back to the VHSL. I know college coaches have a code of conduct where they have to follow, which if they get ejected they have sit out and pay fines.
My one thing I will say to you parents and kids, is that if you think Luther is so bad, then why dont you try and coach. Having a winning team, sending players to college, and helping players develop. While having a family in the process
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: September 05, 2009 01:10PM
Coach - about becoming educated so you don't have to coach. Try running your own company, meeting payroll, delivering for your customers etc. Give me a break. Coaching a team is a joke compared to real world business. Luther is also a joke in how he develops the character of his players. If any of my employees acted like his players, I's show them the door very quickly.
Once again, who cares about the W/K of a HS team. IT"S HIGH SCHOOL - it doesn't matter.
Once again, who cares about the W/K of a HS team. IT"S HIGH SCHOOL - it doesn't matter.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: September 05, 2009 01:18PM
Its people like you who make sports seem like a joke.
Yous sit here and say it's high school baseball so who cares. Well he thousands and thousands of coaches who coach high school sports must care.
Comparing coaching to your joke of a business??? give me a break. I bet either your kid got cut or didnt even make the team. So I guess that gives you the right to sit back and bash luther because he is coaching and he didnt have your son on his team.
I would love to see you parents try and run a team of 15-18 high school boys and see how you do.
It is not the coaches responbility to guide your son on the right and wrong way to act. If he soco players act like ass holes then you parents must not be doing a great job.
Letting your kids go out to parties to drink, letting skip school, etc..
I think before you parents get on here and bash us coaches then you guys need to sit back and evaluate your own "coaching" of your kids.
Seth Jordan acted like an ass because his parents let him act like that and never corrected him.
Nick Digby never acted like that because I bet his parents would not allow him to make a fool of himself and his parents.
Yous sit here and say it's high school baseball so who cares. Well he thousands and thousands of coaches who coach high school sports must care.
Comparing coaching to your joke of a business??? give me a break. I bet either your kid got cut or didnt even make the team. So I guess that gives you the right to sit back and bash luther because he is coaching and he didnt have your son on his team.
I would love to see you parents try and run a team of 15-18 high school boys and see how you do.
It is not the coaches responbility to guide your son on the right and wrong way to act. If he soco players act like ass holes then you parents must not be doing a great job.
Letting your kids go out to parties to drink, letting skip school, etc..
I think before you parents get on here and bash us coaches then you guys need to sit back and evaluate your own "coaching" of your kids.
Seth Jordan acted like an ass because his parents let him act like that and never corrected him.
Nick Digby never acted like that because I bet his parents would not allow him to make a fool of himself and his parents.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: September 07, 2009 12:53AM
Coach - HS sports are not a joke as long they are a teaching mechanism for our future leaders. You sound like Luther's "mini me" when you pull the usual coach BS that it's anybody's fault but the coach's.
My son played for Luther and I've spoken with him on numerous occasions, Hence my disdain for him.
You sound like a fool when you say its so hard to run a team of 15-18 year old boys. Grow up. Most parents of kids on SOCO's BB team could easily do better than Luther. Mr. Jordan...not so much.
It's time to understand that HS athletics are for the kids and not the coaches.
My son played for Luther and I've spoken with him on numerous occasions, Hence my disdain for him.
You sound like a fool when you say its so hard to run a team of 15-18 year old boys. Grow up. Most parents of kids on SOCO's BB team could easily do better than Luther. Mr. Jordan...not so much.
It's time to understand that HS athletics are for the kids and not the coaches.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Coach
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Date: September 07, 2009 03:30AM
Anybdoy can get out there and be a "coach" but its the good ones who know how to relate to the kids and have them perform.
You sit back and say its high school sports, well what are you going to be saying when your son is sitting the bench for a college team, if he plays in college. You going to blame the coach there?
It's time for the parents to grow a sack and start raising their kids the right way. If I ever had a son who acted like Seth Jordan, I would not have coach due anything. I would walk right on2 that field and yank him myself. I feel deep down, that is the parents job to control the kid. You can sit back and say the kids just follow Luther, thats F*n BullS*t. If the parents did a good enough job raising their kids, they would know how to act in public.
If Luther wants to make a fool of himself and his family then let him. There's nothing the Soccer Mom's and Couch Potato Dad's can do about it.
For the people who say its High School, do you not realize that this is maybe what majority of the high school coaches want to do??
SOCO Truth, what would you do if a customer came to you, or better yet, hid behind a sn and bashed you? would you give in and give them their money back or fold your business all because they didnt like the way you handled something?
My advice to you- go coach at South County Little League, win yourself a AA League Championship and say your a better coach than Luther, Pudge, Rowland, Gallagher, James, etc....
And I understand what your saying about its for the kids, but isnt every level for the kids? I have told plenty of teams and kids that I have worked with, if your going to watch a game, dont watch MLB because they play the wrong way.
Did you ever think that maybe Seth Jordan acted the way he did because
1. His parents were pushover and let him do what he wanted as he pleased
2. Saw Luther act a certain way and figured he might as well cuz hes the big shot
3. Maybe his favorvite MLB players is a total ass
Just a thought
You sit back and say its high school sports, well what are you going to be saying when your son is sitting the bench for a college team, if he plays in college. You going to blame the coach there?
It's time for the parents to grow a sack and start raising their kids the right way. If I ever had a son who acted like Seth Jordan, I would not have coach due anything. I would walk right on2 that field and yank him myself. I feel deep down, that is the parents job to control the kid. You can sit back and say the kids just follow Luther, thats F*n BullS*t. If the parents did a good enough job raising their kids, they would know how to act in public.
If Luther wants to make a fool of himself and his family then let him. There's nothing the Soccer Mom's and Couch Potato Dad's can do about it.
For the people who say its High School, do you not realize that this is maybe what majority of the high school coaches want to do??
SOCO Truth, what would you do if a customer came to you, or better yet, hid behind a sn and bashed you? would you give in and give them their money back or fold your business all because they didnt like the way you handled something?
My advice to you- go coach at South County Little League, win yourself a AA League Championship and say your a better coach than Luther, Pudge, Rowland, Gallagher, James, etc....
And I understand what your saying about its for the kids, but isnt every level for the kids? I have told plenty of teams and kids that I have worked with, if your going to watch a game, dont watch MLB because they play the wrong way.
Did you ever think that maybe Seth Jordan acted the way he did because
1. His parents were pushover and let him do what he wanted as he pleased
2. Saw Luther act a certain way and figured he might as well cuz hes the big shot
3. Maybe his favorvite MLB players is a total ass
Just a thought
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: September 07, 2009 11:24AM
Coach - I think we're in 90% agreement. Pulling a player that acted inappropriately is the right and only thing to do. We need more coaches that don't put up with the BS that some players pull today. Unfortunately, SOCO has more than their fair share. Luther's more concerned about W/L than he is about using HS sports to better the student. That is fundamentally wrong.
You should never sacrifice values simply to ensure a better outcome in the game. I'm sure Luther knows the game, but he doesn't see the bigger picture.
You should never sacrifice values simply to ensure a better outcome in the game. I'm sure Luther knows the game, but he doesn't see the bigger picture.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
VHSL
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Date: September 07, 2009 12:31PM
Luther needs to follow the below guidelines:
Good sportsmanship is a top priority of the Virginia High School League. In fact, the manner in which you and your team represent your school is far more important than whether you win or lose the games you play.
Good sportsmanship is all about respect – respect for teammates and coaches, respect for opposing players and coaches, respect for contest officials, and respect for the game.
Please demand from your players and team personnel that as they compete they treat all other teams and officials with respect at all times, regardless of the situation. Please encourage your fans to do the same. And, finally, please lead by your example.
Sad to say, Luther fails all of the above.
Good sportsmanship is a top priority of the Virginia High School League. In fact, the manner in which you and your team represent your school is far more important than whether you win or lose the games you play.
Good sportsmanship is all about respect – respect for teammates and coaches, respect for opposing players and coaches, respect for contest officials, and respect for the game.
Please demand from your players and team personnel that as they compete they treat all other teams and officials with respect at all times, regardless of the situation. Please encourage your fans to do the same. And, finally, please lead by your example.
Sad to say, Luther fails all of the above.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Coach
()
Date: September 07, 2009 01:33PM
Sad to say not alot of coaches do what they should do.
Like other people have stated beforehand, coaching is not all about W/L record, but the only thing is, that is how coaches are judged. If a coach has a bad record, he is history. Not many people are worried about how a coach acts.
That should fall back on the school and the VHSL. If they both allow the coaches to act like fools, then they are going to keep doing it.
I think that the league/school should implement a fine/suspension policy for acting out, and I think the umpires need to step up the enforcement of the rules and whatnot. Having seen the NV umpires, I must say they are a joke. The umpires are not really concerned about the rules. As long as they can get their $85 a game they dont care.
I personally think the best thing for the coaches to do is go coaching clinics and maybe take a philosophy class
Like other people have stated beforehand, coaching is not all about W/L record, but the only thing is, that is how coaches are judged. If a coach has a bad record, he is history. Not many people are worried about how a coach acts.
That should fall back on the school and the VHSL. If they both allow the coaches to act like fools, then they are going to keep doing it.
I think that the league/school should implement a fine/suspension policy for acting out, and I think the umpires need to step up the enforcement of the rules and whatnot. Having seen the NV umpires, I must say they are a joke. The umpires are not really concerned about the rules. As long as they can get their $85 a game they dont care.
I personally think the best thing for the coaches to do is go coaching clinics and maybe take a philosophy class
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BB coach
()
Date: September 08, 2009 10:04AM
I agree coach for the guy who said get an education and run a buisness. Well I have a Double Masters. As for the the buisness Try controlling a budget dealing with boosters and the school admin. Making the budget stretch then dealing with parents who think little Johnny is going to pay for their retirement. I can't say Luther's acted correctl, but I also can say their is not one person who has not blown up at one time.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BB coach
()
Date: September 08, 2009 10:08AM
If you think wins and losses do not matter try getting a player in to a good D1 or D2 college program win the team he comes from has a loosing record.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SoCo Wannabe
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Date: September 09, 2009 03:36PM
Coach Luther, Coach Smith, Coach Townsend, Coach Carver and Coach Nevins are very nice gentlemen and good examples to their players on how to act - both on the field and off.
Coach Luther might have made a mistake by not disciplining a player but overall - he does look out for his players as people. He truly wants them to be good players and temamates. Yes - I do know him and all the coaches!!
Coach Luther might have made a mistake by not disciplining a player but overall - he does look out for his players as people. He truly wants them to be good players and temamates. Yes - I do know him and all the coaches!!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
grasshole
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Date: September 09, 2009 06:49PM
Hey VHSL aka. Grasso Will you just shut the fuck up already...go away, you will never get a coaching job in this area. YOU are not qualified and NOBODY likes you!!! Get the Hint...go back to your ex-wife, she'll straighten you out...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Love these posts
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Date: September 09, 2009 08:10PM
We have nine pages of SOCO bull shit, lets go for ten.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Verbum Dei
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Date: September 10, 2009 02:52PM
Helping to make it 10.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
DarkSide
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Date: September 10, 2009 10:58PM
Funny how Grasso likes to talk about cheating when in fact he was caught cheating on his wife. He is like all of these people that post on this topic. They bitch because either there son/daughter, grandchild, themselve got cut from a team. Or the fact that no one cares what you have to say. Funny how he can bash anyone on his site, but he will not allow anyone to post on his site. If you email him, his typical response is, "anytime, anywhere asshole." Typical New York answer. May be we should start sending him FOIA.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Love this site
()
Date: September 11, 2009 05:28AM
Go to, www.fairnessinschoolsports.org/
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
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Date: September 11, 2009 07:10AM
I'll take Grasso over Luther any day.
I'm still puzzled why Luther picked the son of Grasso's girlfrind to make the team year after year when everyone knew many other kids were more deserving. I guess he desperately needed a bullpen catcher.
I'm still puzzled why Luther picked the son of Grasso's girlfrind to make the team year after year when everyone knew many other kids were more deserving. I guess he desperately needed a bullpen catcher.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 11, 2009 10:04AM
You know, I'd heard of this Grasso idiot over the years...never paid him much mind. Typical gadfly antagonist with a selfish agenda, in my mind.
Then I went to his website, listed above.
Lo and behold, I see posts on there that have been C/P here, and on other threads. Including that retarded Madison Mom with her "conflict of issue" crap. The one that's been a pain in the ass for her kid's coaches since they were 8. Yeah, I know her.....ugh.
Now its much clearer, and much easier, to see through the anonymous posts on here.
And btw, BB coach, this thread ORIGINATED over issues with Luther's and a SOCO kid's behavior on the field--I'm glad you agree that that's out of bounds. All the other "Grasso" bullshit about playing time, fund raising and camps is and has been just so much wasted bloviating. But thanks for reading.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Then I went to his website, listed above.
Lo and behold, I see posts on there that have been C/P here, and on other threads. Including that retarded Madison Mom with her "conflict of issue" crap. The one that's been a pain in the ass for her kid's coaches since they were 8. Yeah, I know her.....ugh.
Now its much clearer, and much easier, to see through the anonymous posts on here.
And btw, BB coach, this thread ORIGINATED over issues with Luther's and a SOCO kid's behavior on the field--I'm glad you agree that that's out of bounds. All the other "Grasso" bullshit about playing time, fund raising and camps is and has been just so much wasted bloviating. But thanks for reading.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
For Real?
()
Date: September 11, 2009 10:59AM
Trying to piece together this soap opera: Grasso hates Luther (and everybody else apparently). But Luther carried Grasso's girlfriend's son on the team although he didn't belong. This wasn't enough to diffuse Grasso and he continues to lash out at the SOCO program (and everyone else). SOCO parents want change. I know why this thread started (player banging himself on the head with bat while shouting expletives only to be overlooked by coach) but what's the history between these 2? Man, this could be the makings of a great reality TV show...The Biggest Losers? Survivor: SOCO? Bashing with the Stars?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
headbanger
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Date: September 11, 2009 09:45PM
The kid who banged his head was Luther's pet from day 1 of 9th grade. The second coming of Babe Ruth.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st base
()
Date: September 12, 2009 10:25PM
Headbanger speaks the truth. He's now at the baseball powerhouse of Mary Washington.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
DarkSide
()
Date: September 12, 2009 10:39PM
Grasso is a piece of shit. He is a failure at everything and that is why he is lashing out at all FCPS. He needs to realize that he messed and ran a shitty business. Instead, he is making everyones life a living hell. He always says anytime, anywhere...guess what..I am ready to kick your ass old man and finally shut your dumb ass up.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: September 14, 2009 10:50PM
Anybody know if Grasso still runs the South County Hawks?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
lutherwannabeeee
()
Date: September 15, 2009 06:52PM
you will see what a good coach he is if he wins with the talent he has this year. Its hard to replace two thirds of your roster. The middle of there line-up was all-region good, plus they had an all-region pitcher, what's in the wings? Anybody know what happened to there best players, where did they go?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: September 18, 2009 09:41PM
I agree with the last poster. Let's see what Luther does with only an above average team. None of his seniors went anywhere special, at least not the ones that will contiue playing baseball in college. Seth Jordan went to Mary Washington, Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
luther
()
Date: September 20, 2009 09:02AM
SOCO Truth Wrote:
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> I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> Luther does with only an above average team. None
> of his seniors went anywhere special, at least not
> the ones that will contiue playing baseball in
> college. Seth Jordan went to Mary Washington,
> Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
Why are those schools not special....Is it because they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level is still very good....I have a son on CNU and the competition is ridiculous. Its all about being at the right place at the right time. I've seen Digby play for a number of years and he can hit the sh** out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior year but a soft one as a senior, but he can still play. They will excel at the level they are at. Being a big fish in a small pond is better than not getting on the field at all.
-------------------------------------------------------
> I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> Luther does with only an above average team. None
> of his seniors went anywhere special, at least not
> the ones that will contiue playing baseball in
> college. Seth Jordan went to Mary Washington,
> Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
Why are those schools not special....Is it because they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level is still very good....I have a son on CNU and the competition is ridiculous. Its all about being at the right place at the right time. I've seen Digby play for a number of years and he can hit the sh** out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior year but a soft one as a senior, but he can still play. They will excel at the level they are at. Being a big fish in a small pond is better than not getting on the field at all.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: September 21, 2009 07:23AM
It's not the quality of the baseball I was referring to, it's the quality of the academics. These kids will not make their living hitting the sh.. outta the ball, but will use their college education to prep themselves for the "real world". Why is baseball the be all end all. Sad, sad perspective.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 21, 2009 10:59AM
luther Wrote:
> They will excel at the level they are at. Being a
> big fish in a small pond is better than not
> getting on the field at all.
on a 36 man roster (UMW) where only 8 hitters get significant at-bats, I'll go way out on a limb here and say--being a small fish in a small pond is statistically probable.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
> They will excel at the level they are at. Being a
> big fish in a small pond is better than not
> getting on the field at all.
on a 36 man roster (UMW) where only 8 hitters get significant at-bats, I'll go way out on a limb here and say--being a small fish in a small pond is statistically probable.
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
luther
()
Date: September 21, 2009 12:44PM
luther Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > Luther does with only an above average team.
> None
> > of his seniors went anywhere special, at least
> not
> > the ones that will contiue playing baseball in
> > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary Washington,
> > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
>
>
> Why are those schools not special....Is it because
> they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level is
> still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> competition is ridiculous. Its all about being at
> the right place at the right time. I've seen Digby
> play for a number of years and he can hit the sh**
> out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior year
> but a soft one as a senior, but he can still play.
> They will excel at the level they are at. Being a
> big fish in a small pond is better than not
> getting on the field at all.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO Truth, you weren't very clear on your post. Academics didn't come up once on this thread and I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking about...How do you know about the quality of education, do you know anything about D3 schools. As far as kids not making a living hitting the shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids have dreams of playing at the next level...no matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they don't listen to people such as yourself...
-------------------------------------------------------
> SOCO Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > Luther does with only an above average team.
> None
> > of his seniors went anywhere special, at least
> not
> > the ones that will contiue playing baseball in
> > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary Washington,
> > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
>
>
> Why are those schools not special....Is it because
> they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level is
> still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> competition is ridiculous. Its all about being at
> the right place at the right time. I've seen Digby
> play for a number of years and he can hit the sh**
> out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior year
> but a soft one as a senior, but he can still play.
> They will excel at the level they are at. Being a
> big fish in a small pond is better than not
> getting on the field at all.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO Truth, you weren't very clear on your post. Academics didn't come up once on this thread and I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking about...How do you know about the quality of education, do you know anything about D3 schools. As far as kids not making a living hitting the shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids have dreams of playing at the next level...no matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they don't listen to people such as yourself...
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Luther 2
()
Date: September 21, 2009 12:45PM
Does Nick Markakis ring a bell......
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
BBcoach
()
Date: September 21, 2009 02:50PM
Having come from a D1 program to coaching I agree the level of play in D2 and D3 is good, but consider this the number of scholarships in D2 is 1/2 that of D1 and D3 I do not think they offer Baseball scholarships if they do it is 1 or 2 per year. You also must consider this, out of a team of 15 only 9 play and 10 hit, out of that number 1 to 4 players will actully get looked at by scouts. out of the four 1 might get an offer. If that he will be 1 of 20 to 30 who get to the college team. The team is now made up of the studs from every other High School the scouts went to and offered 1 kid a chance. For 1 position on the team the in coming freshman might be 1 of 6 palyers at the position and that is a low esatmate of the 6, 4 will be upperclassman. take those numbers and you will see playing any significant amount in college is like winning the lotto. My advice is parents be realistic Coaches be truthful with players and parents.Players remember its a game. keep your grades an atittude up. I agree displine bad sportsmanship.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: September 21, 2009 03:36PM
Luther - as parents it's our job to provide the best guidance to our kids. Telling them to follow the dream at some podunk D3 school, instead of focusing on academics at a better academic institution is foolish. As a business owner, I know a great deal about the kind of professionals schools develop. The chances of "making it" at a D3 school are so slim, its a non starter. Coaches and parents need to be more responsible when providing guidance to a high school student.
"Follow the dream" at D3 .... Not so much. Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid.
If only you were the real Luther.
"Follow the dream" at D3 .... Not so much. Keep drinkin' the Kool-Aid.
If only you were the real Luther.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
bull
()
Date: September 21, 2009 09:55PM
Let's stop talking about Luther for a minute. What about these other men who are there to coach but only care about their kids. Smith kid who is a team manager but takes more infield and BP then some of the varsity players. Neivens who only show's up when he fell like putting the kids down. Townsend who dont care about nothing but his kid.I'm so glad my kid is gone and don't have to put up with this anymore. Good Luck
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
HaHA
()
Date: September 21, 2009 11:53PM
SOCO Truth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's not the quality of the baseball I was
> referring to, it's the quality of the academics.
> These kids will not make their living hitting the
> sh.. outta the ball, but will use their college
> education to prep themselves for the "real world".
> Why is baseball the be all end all. Sad, sad
> perspective.
Mary Washington and Christopher Newport are 2 of the hardest schools in Virginia to get in to. I have a niece that had like a 4.3 and she CHOSE Mary Washington. Your credibility is not getting any better.
I have played and coached numerous sports and I can tell you that baseball is the most subjective of all. Two very good coaches could see total opposite things in a player. So guess what the parent will see? Get over it, your kid probably sucks. And I'll bet he can't get into UMW or CNU either.
-------------------------------------------------------
> It's not the quality of the baseball I was
> referring to, it's the quality of the academics.
> These kids will not make their living hitting the
> sh.. outta the ball, but will use their college
> education to prep themselves for the "real world".
> Why is baseball the be all end all. Sad, sad
> perspective.
Mary Washington and Christopher Newport are 2 of the hardest schools in Virginia to get in to. I have a niece that had like a 4.3 and she CHOSE Mary Washington. Your credibility is not getting any better.
I have played and coached numerous sports and I can tell you that baseball is the most subjective of all. Two very good coaches could see total opposite things in a player. So guess what the parent will see? Get over it, your kid probably sucks. And I'll bet he can't get into UMW or CNU either.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
luther
()
Date: September 22, 2009 01:15PM
luther Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> luther Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > > Luther does with only an above average team.
> > None
> > > of his seniors went anywhere special, at
> least
> > not
> > > the ones that will contiue playing baseball
> in
> > > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary
> Washington,
> > > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
> >
> >
> > Why are those schools not special....Is it
> because
> > they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level
> is
> > still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> > competition is ridiculous. Its all about being
> at
> > the right place at the right time. I've seen
> Digby
> > play for a number of years and he can hit the
> sh**
> > out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior
> year
> > but a soft one as a senior, but he can still
> play.
> > They will excel at the level they are at. Being
> a
> > big fish in a small pond is better than not
> > getting on the field at all.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO
> Truth, you weren't very clear on your post.
> Academics didn't come up once on this thread and
> I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking
> about...How do you know about the quality of
> education, do you know anything about D3 schools.
> As far as kids not making a living hitting the
> shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything
> can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in
> high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids
> have dreams of playing at the next level...no
> matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they
> don't listen to people such as yourself...
HAHA, tell him like it is, CNU and UMW are great academic institutions. As a business owner you're passing up alot of potential candidates by not knowing what a good school is. So what if you don't make it, you're still getting 4 more years of baseball and with alittle luck and hard work...who knows where it will take you. SOCO TRUTH, you're tunnel vision has caused you to miss out on so much. I feel sorry for you. Put some Capt. Morgan in your Kool Aid, it will ease your pain. Sad, sad perspective.
-------------------------------------------------------
> luther Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > > Luther does with only an above average team.
> > None
> > > of his seniors went anywhere special, at
> least
> > not
> > > the ones that will contiue playing baseball
> in
> > > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary
> Washington,
> > > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
> >
> >
> > Why are those schools not special....Is it
> because
> > they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level
> is
> > still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> > competition is ridiculous. Its all about being
> at
> > the right place at the right time. I've seen
> Digby
> > play for a number of years and he can hit the
> sh**
> > out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior
> year
> > but a soft one as a senior, but he can still
> play.
> > They will excel at the level they are at. Being
> a
> > big fish in a small pond is better than not
> > getting on the field at all.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO
> Truth, you weren't very clear on your post.
> Academics didn't come up once on this thread and
> I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking
> about...How do you know about the quality of
> education, do you know anything about D3 schools.
> As far as kids not making a living hitting the
> shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything
> can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in
> high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids
> have dreams of playing at the next level...no
> matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they
> don't listen to people such as yourself...
HAHA, tell him like it is, CNU and UMW are great academic institutions. As a business owner you're passing up alot of potential candidates by not knowing what a good school is. So what if you don't make it, you're still getting 4 more years of baseball and with alittle luck and hard work...who knows where it will take you. SOCO TRUTH, you're tunnel vision has caused you to miss out on so much. I feel sorry for you. Put some Capt. Morgan in your Kool Aid, it will ease your pain. Sad, sad perspective.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
fairfaxdude
()
Date: September 22, 2009 02:43PM
How this devolved into which colleges are better is beyond me. I think letting kids go to school where they want is perfectly fine, athletes or not. VERY few athletes in ANY college sport have a preponderance of choice of schools.
SOCO TRUTH can run his business any way he wants; I doubt where the degrees come from matters much. Having hired an awful lot of folks, I'd say it's only one of MANY criteria one could use.
Wasn't the purpose of this thread to discuss Luther's behavior on the field, and how(or not) he disciplined his out of control players?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
SOCO TRUTH can run his business any way he wants; I doubt where the degrees come from matters much. Having hired an awful lot of folks, I'd say it's only one of MANY criteria one could use.
Wasn't the purpose of this thread to discuss Luther's behavior on the field, and how(or not) he disciplined his out of control players?
______________________________________________
I have had to change the addresses to my retaliatory blogs over half a dozen times.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: September 23, 2009 01:29PM
luther - thanks for feeling sorry for me. I feel so special. I agree with fairfaxdude in that the focus of this thread should be the lack of discipline Luther instills in his players. Saw it first hand over and over. CNU and MWU are OK local schools if that's what you want. I prefer more nnational universities like UVA, UNC, Penn St, Michigan,Texas, military academies etc. Just my preference. My expeience as shown that the folks from these schools perform and don't need hand holding.
Anybody know where Luther went to school.
Anybody know where Luther went to school.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
lutherwannabeeeeee
()
Date: September 23, 2009 06:40PM
luther Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> luther Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > > Luther does with only an above average team.
> > None
> > > of his seniors went anywhere special, at
> least
> > not
> > > the ones that will contiue playing baseball
> in
> > > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary
> Washington,
> > > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
> >
> >
> > Why are those schools not special....Is it
> because
> > they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level
> is
> > still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> > competition is ridiculous. Its all about being
> at
> > the right place at the right time. I've seen
> Digby
> > play for a number of years and he can hit the
> sh**
> > out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior
> year
> > but a soft one as a senior, but he can still
> play.
> > They will excel at the level they are at. Being
> a
> > big fish in a small pond is better than not
> > getting on the field at all.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO
> Truth, you weren't very clear on your post.
> Academics didn't come up once on this thread and
> I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking
> about...How do you know about the quality of
> education, do you know anything about D3 schools.
> As far as kids not making a living hitting the
> shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything
> can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in
> high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids
> have dreams of playing at the next level...no
> matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they
> don't listen to people such as yourself...
HARVARD
-------------------------------------------------------
> luther Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > SOCO Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I agree with the last poster. Let's see what
> > > Luther does with only an above average team.
> > None
> > > of his seniors went anywhere special, at
> least
> > not
> > > the ones that will contiue playing baseball
> in
> > > college. Seth Jordan went to Mary
> Washington,
> > > Nick Digby went to NC Wesleyan.
> >
> >
> > Why are those schools not special....Is it
> because
> > they're not D1? The competition at the D3 level
> is
> > still very good....I have a son on CNU and the
> > competition is ridiculous. Its all about being
> at
> > the right place at the right time. I've seen
> Digby
> > play for a number of years and he can hit the
> sh**
> > out of the ball...Jordan had a great junior
> year
> > but a soft one as a senior, but he can still
> play.
> > They will excel at the level they are at. Being
> a
> > big fish in a small pond is better than not
> > getting on the field at all.
>
> Everyone is entitled to their opinion...SOCO
> Truth, you weren't very clear on your post.
> Academics didn't come up once on this thread and
> I'm suppossed to assume that's what your talking
> about...How do you know about the quality of
> education, do you know anything about D3 schools.
> As far as kids not making a living hitting the
> shit out of the ball, how do you know? Anything
> can happen, take this from someone whose kid is in
> high A ball who came from a D3 school. Some kids
> have dreams of playing at the next level...no
> matter how long it takes! It's a good thing they
> don't listen to people such as yourself...
HARVARD
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: September 24, 2009 02:39PM
how embarassing for Harvard
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Skoal Bandit
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:07PM
C'mon yall, couple more posts and we're on page 10! Yeehaw. Tell me more about the dippin' and spittin' that went on in the dugout!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:24PM
Sounds like Skoal Bandit is a protege of Luther. PWT at it's best.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Skoal Bandit
()
Date: September 24, 2009 03:56PM
Yeehaw! After all, this is LORTON! NASCAR country...who's ur driver? PWT? Partyin' With Tobacco?! Yep'r. Now back to the mud slingin'.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Well?
()
Date: September 24, 2009 07:09PM
Who is in line to get boned at SC next year?
Has anyone signed to a college? Someone give us some ammo......
Has anyone signed to a college? Someone give us some ammo......
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:01PM
Skoal Bandit - SOCO is in Lorton. The SOCO baseball players predominately live in Fairfax Station. You are the definition of PWT (Po white trash).
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Skoal Bandit
()
Date: September 25, 2009 01:55PM
White Trash, yep. Po? Nope. Where does Luther live? And I noticed despite all your bellyachin' he ain't goin nowhere. I reckon your boy is done playin and you still blame him cuz he didn't go D1...or did Luther cut your boy? Luther gonna be dippin' and chewin' at SOCO for a long time. Yeehaw!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Raider
()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:04PM
Does Skoal get acccess to a computer between cleaning the boys stalls at SOCO.
Po - I think so!
Po - I think so!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Skoal Bandit
()
Date: September 25, 2009 02:19PM
Raider, pretty darn sure that you and 1st Base know all about boys stalls alright. Gonna bet you and him probably shared a few in your day. Now, let's get back to some good ol' mudslingin'. Yeehaw!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
workouts
()
Date: September 29, 2009 07:06PM
Baseball workouts have probably started. Any SOCO updates?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
1st Base
()
Date: September 30, 2009 02:39PM
Update: Skoal Bandit still shoveling crap from the boys restrooms. Still hoping that saying yeehaw will make him look impressive to the HS freshmen.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Yeehaw
()
Date: December 18, 2009 09:46PM
It's a week before X-Mas and Mark Luther still can't coach. Oh yeah, he's very short.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
soco truth
()
Date: February 13, 2010 05:46PM
With all the snow, will tryouts be pushed back?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
dukes
()
Date: February 24, 2010 08:42PM
Tryouts have been going on inside the schools facilities.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Emeritus Q. Beaker
()
Date: February 25, 2010 08:59AM
So in a few days, after cuts, we'll get some whiny, over privileged, under achieving, self entitled parents bitching about how some mean bad coach cut their little boy? And its the coach's fault little Johnny isn't on the team. That mean ogre of a coach plays favorites and since we have principles, we won't pander to him.
Let me just prepare you helicopter moms. "You're boy isn't good enough."
Let me just prepare you helicopter moms. "You're boy isn't good enough."
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
()
Date: March 18, 2010 03:09PM
Actually, Luther isn't good enough.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
not surprised
()
Date: March 22, 2010 09:42PM
Seth Jordan having a good year at Mary Washington. Not surprising given his talents.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
your name
()
Date: March 22, 2010 11:58PM
not surprised Wrote:
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> Seth Jordan having a good year at Mary Washington.
> Not surprising given his talents.
hows his dick taste?
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> Seth Jordan having a good year at Mary Washington.
> Not surprising given his talents.
hows his dick taste?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Tuth
()
Date: March 23, 2010 09:42PM
Seth is actually having a good freshman year at MW. Thank god Luther prepared him so well.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Bo Jangles
()
Date: March 24, 2010 12:17PM
SOCO Tuth Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Seth is actually having a good freshman year at
> MW. Thank god Luther prepared him so well.
Don't forget the daily blowjobs that you've been giving him for some time now
-------------------------------------------------------
> Seth is actually having a good freshman year at
> MW. Thank god Luther prepared him so well.
Don't forget the daily blowjobs that you've been giving him for some time now
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO Truth
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Date: April 07, 2010 07:35AM
Bo Jangles - When it comes to BJs, you're obviously the expert.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Dbsdi
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Date: February 09, 2011 11:46PM
I know Seth he is a pussy who quit football so he wouldnt get hurt. This fits his personality as a big cry baby. Jane Lipp sucks. We need the Rumburgler back. Luther Sucks. Plugraph sucks. Bendorf is chill.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Grasso
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Date: March 31, 2011 01:42PM
I'm still bitter that Luthers the coach and not me.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Interested Parent
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Date: March 31, 2011 02:39PM
Dbsdi Wrote:
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> I know Seth he is a pussy who quit football so he
> wouldnt get hurt. This fits his personality as a
> big cry baby. Jane Lipp sucks. We need the
> Rumburgler back. Luther Sucks. Plugraph sucks.
> Bendorf is chill.
Agree that Rumburgler is needed back! Pflugrath is a good man and does a great job!
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> I know Seth he is a pussy who quit football so he
> wouldnt get hurt. This fits his personality as a
> big cry baby. Jane Lipp sucks. We need the
> Rumburgler back. Luther Sucks. Plugraph sucks.
> Bendorf is chill.
Agree that Rumburgler is needed back! Pflugrath is a good man and does a great job!
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
man up
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Date: March 31, 2011 02:53PM
Baseball Fan Wrote:
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> This was a total disgrace for high school sports
> and should not happen in front of players, adults
> and their children.
How many of the players have children?
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> This was a total disgrace for high school sports
> and should not happen in front of players, adults
> and their children.
How many of the players have children?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Best Team in School History
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Date: November 07, 2011 01:32PM
Funny how all of you had nothing to say when Luther lead this squad to an outstanding 28-1 record this past season. He's a great coach.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
LBparent
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Date: November 07, 2011 03:41PM
As a Lake Braddock parent I must add that I have been quite impressed the last few years at Coach Luther's coaching of his team. They had a great season and really appreciate the time that all these coaches give, and the great influences they have on our kids.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
SOCO BBALL
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Date: November 11, 2011 02:06PM
LBparent Wrote:
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> As a Lake Braddock parent I must add that I have
> been quite impressed the last few years at Coach
> Luther's coaching of his team. They had a great
> season and really appreciate the time that all
> these coaches give, and the great influences they
> have on our kids.
He's a good man and put together a good staff, just like Braddock has done. All the games we played against you guys last year were great and I have much respect for that team.
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> As a Lake Braddock parent I must add that I have
> been quite impressed the last few years at Coach
> Luther's coaching of his team. They had a great
> season and really appreciate the time that all
> these coaches give, and the great influences they
> have on our kids.
He's a good man and put together a good staff, just like Braddock has done. All the games we played against you guys last year were great and I have much respect for that team.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
anonomous
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Date: February 06, 2014 10:47PM
I completely disagree with what you're saying. Coach Luther wasn't the one telling the kid to cuss so you can't blame him for the actions of other people. Also he had the game to worry about so he isn't going to waste time disciplining a player when there is a game to be played. I'm sure he said something after the game, as all coaches do. Plus this is a HIGH SCHOOL SPORT meaning the language isn't always going to be appropriet but it happened so deal with it. I'm sure soccer players, football players, basketball and all the other athletes say those things as well at any high school you just don't hear because you aren't next to them. Luther is not a parent he is a coach, so he isn't responsible for do diciplining a player when a game is going on. If you aren't comfortable with what is said I dare you to go to a pro or college game. There will definitely be fowl language said but you don't bag on those coaches so stop bagging on Coach Luther. If you and your child can't handle the language and intensity then you shouldn't have your child on a high school sport.
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
Hayfield Hawk, my ass!
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Date: February 06, 2014 11:31PM
> There will definitely be fowl language <
As in, "bawk, bawk, bawk bawk", or something like that?
As in, "bawk, bawk, bawk bawk", or something like that?
Re: SOCO HS Baseball Coach does not Discipline Player
Posted by:
walkingdead
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Date: February 07, 2014 08:47AM
Good grief, don't old threads die at some point?