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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 09:09PM

Why????

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 09:11PM

I just watched it! She should be fired!!!

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 09:32PM

Lets go To Fairfax!!!

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Citizen 2015 ()
Date: February 10, 2015 10:00PM

Raymann Wrote:
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> I just watched it! She should be fired!!!


I totally agree. She is so ignorant to think that CIT only applies to street cops

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 10:06PM

Thank you Citizen 2015! it applies to everyone. Over 50% of those in prison and jail struggle with mental illness. Many of them are there as a direct result of their mental illness. In many cases they will not immediately respond to commands because they are seeing another reality! Many of them are veterans who have returned from the battlefield....and suffer from mental illness brought on by TBI, PTSD etc. People who make fun of those who are mentally ill are incredibly ignorant!

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 10:20PM


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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 10, 2015 10:46PM

very interesting!

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: we want you out,CSB ()
Date: February 11, 2015 11:09AM


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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Hmm... ()
Date: February 11, 2015 01:37PM

Yea, and we all know that everything that the news reports is true. Just ask NBC and Brian Williams.

Seriously people, the sheriff has the police department do the criminal investigation so that there can be no allegations of bias by having her own staff do the investigation. Why then would she bar them access? That just doesn't make sense. Sounds like the press making up a story.

At the same time, the Sheriff's Office Internal Affairs Section does a parallel administrative investigation. All of this is standard procedure for any in-custody death in any jail or prison in the country.

All of this is under investigation by two agencies, and of course any time someone dies in custody there is always the possibility of a wrongful death suit. So, why isn't Sheriff Kincaid talking to the press and making statements? Oh, I don't know, maybe because it would be extremely dumb of her to do so at this time. She has a Public Information Officer for a reason. That person is making statements that can be made and isn't making statements that shouldn't be made due to the on-going investigation.

Also, every single deputy has extensive training in dealing with inmates with mental issues. It is part of their initial and yearly training. You should also know that mentally disturbed inmates can be very dangerous. They use every part of their body, and everything that comes out of it, as a weapon. They not only punch, scratch and kick, but they bite, spit, throw urine, poop and use blood as weapons.

Until the whole story is known, everyone is just speculating what happened. It is tragic that someone died. Tasers are a tool that law enforcement uses when they have to but they are not fool-proof. I know that none of those deputies went into that situation with the intent of harming that woman. Keeping from getting harmed themselves, yes. But intentionally harming her for the sake of hurting her, no way.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ()
Date: February 11, 2015 03:12PM

Thanks for the talking points Steve, you all are in deep shit and you know it. Too many have been talking to the news media and they know what to ask for. Get the FBI involved, it's your only hope to save the agency.

I see your wonder boy who was promoted quickly made some mighty fine decisions on that extraction.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Hmmmmm ()
Date: February 11, 2015 03:32PM

Tell me how those 4 cycles works out for you.

Mattos v. Agarano, 661 F.3d 433 (C.A.9 (Hawai'i) October 17, 2011)
The 9th Circuit’s Brooks en banc decision is the leading court decision analyzing use of an X26 CEW in drive-stun mode to gain volitional compliance of an actively resisting person who is not reasonably perceived as an immediate threat or a flight risk. In the Brooks portion of the Mattos en banc decision, the Court laid out the proper analysis for determining whether an officer’s use of force to gain volitional compliance of an actively resisting person by using a TASER X26 CEW in drive stun mode was objectively reasonable. The Court stated that before an officer uses an X26 CEW in drive-stun mode to attempt to gain volitional compliance of an actively resisting person, the officer must give the person a reasonable opportunity to comply with officer’s directives prior to each CEW drive-stun application. This “reasonable opportunity to comply” includes that the officer: (1) must not have a reasonable perception that the person is not capable of volitional compliance to officer’s commands; (2) must reasonably perceive that the person is “actively resisting;” (3) must give the person a warning of the imminent application of force to gain compliance before each force application; (4) must give the person time “to recover from the extreme pain” experienced; (5) must give the person a reasonable opportunity to “gather herself;” and (6) must give the person a reasonable opportunity to “consider her refusal to comply” with the officer’s commands before each X26 CEW drive-stun application.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Leatherface ()
Date: February 11, 2015 06:47PM

Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.

Posted by: Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah ()

Date: February 11, 2015 03:12PM


Thanks for the talking points Steve, you all are in deep shit and you know it. Too many have been talking to the news media and they know what to ask for. Get the FBI involved, it's your only hope to save the agency.

I see your wonder boy who was promoted quickly made some mighty fine decisions on that extraction
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You leave my husband Stevie El alone! It's bad enough he is married to me, a lookalike twin to a catcher's mitt, but he also has to defend an incompetent Sheriff behind an alias on a blog!! I think to ease his mind tonight I will put a bag over my face before bed...

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Chain Smoker ()
Date: February 11, 2015 07:46PM

Now that's funny "I'm a little troll that chain smokes, don't make fun of my man Steve"

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: So-called Progressive ()
Date: February 11, 2015 07:49PM

Just remember that Stacey campaigned on making sure that the Sheriff's office was more inclusive and reflective of the faces of our community, and transgender issues of course. Who cares about whether deputies kill an unarmed civilian in custody, we're progressives.
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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Watchdog ()
Date: February 12, 2015 02:33PM

Where is the FBI?

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Harvey Volzer ()
Date: February 13, 2015 11:34AM

I represent the family of Ms. McKenna, the woman who was tasered to death. I would appreciate having ANY reports, statements, witness contact info, etc. regarding the incident. I will NOT attribute anything I receive. Any person with info/witness can call me at 703-549-0446.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Harvey Volzer ()
Date: February 13, 2015 02:19PM

I represent the family of Ms. McKenna, the deceased. Please email or call confidentially at 703-549-0446.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Fed Up here ()
Date: February 13, 2015 04:37PM

I hope you are real Harvey. Natasha and the Greer family needs to stop these thugs.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Outraged ()
Date: February 13, 2015 05:07PM

It's a shame that we burden law enforcement with trash removal.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Suzanne Vega ()
Date: February 13, 2015 06:47PM

My name is Luca
I live on the 7th floor...
You don't know me...
I ordered them to taze that whore....
My name is Krusty...
You don't know me...
I have a tiny tool...
I helped kill that fool...
Along with Fairyman..
And Oh Henry the gay porn star...
You don't know us..
It all just went a little too far....
It just don't matter..
It just don't matter...
Anymore

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Good one ()
Date: February 13, 2015 07:22PM

Suzanne Vega Wrote:
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> My name is Luca
> I live on the 7th floor...
> You don't know me...
> I ordered them to taze that whore....
> My name is Krusty...
> You don't know me...
> I have a tiny tool...
> I helped kill that fool...
> Along with Fairyman..
> And Oh Henry the gay porn star...
> You don't know us..
> It all just went a little too far....
> It just don't matter..
> It just don't matter...
> Anymore

That's funny how you got four out of five. You need to add wonder boy team leader.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Lou Reed ()
Date: February 13, 2015 07:58PM

That's funny how you got four out of five. You need to add wonder boy team leader
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Do tell- I am jamming with Suzanne and we need another line for the tune man...

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: CIT ()
Date: February 15, 2015 01:06PM

SERT Bullies
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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Natasha McKenna ()
Date: February 15, 2015 08:37PM

Fairfax is trying to unseat PG County as the most out-of-control police force around

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Ghost of Tom Joad ()
Date: February 15, 2015 09:56PM

Re: Fairfax Sheriff
Posted by: Ghost of Tom Joad ()
Date: February 15, 2015 09:41PM


(Sung to 41 shots-American Skin)
4 tazer shots
And we'll take that ride
I did nothing but have a mental problem
For that I died
4 tazer shots
That's what they say
The Doctor said it was more like five
The Sheriff will talk about it another day
Was it so big a deal?
Was I so bad?
A small woman with mental issues
It ended so sad
You can get killed just for living-in your American Skin
4 tazer shots
So scared and afraid
5 big guys dressed up in black
Yelling at me like I am a slave
4 Tazer shots
After beating me down
Black eyes,bruises and an amputated finger
Is what Fairfax Hospital found
Was I so big?
Was I so bad?
A small woman with mental issues
It ended so sad
You can killed just for living -in your American Skin
4 tazer shots
The SERT team fired me up good
All 5 were white guys having fun
Underneath their hood
4 tazer shots
And each one knew they went too far
SERT team went a little crazy this time
And they know who they are
You had Lucas,Krusty and Fairyman, and Henry the gay porn star
You can killed just for living-in your American skin
You can KILLED just for living- in your American skin
YOU CAN KILLED JUST FOR LIVING- IN YOUR AMERICAN SKIN

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Ghost of Sarah Palin ()
Date: February 19, 2015 07:19PM

Re: Mentally Ill Woman Murdered by LE in Fairfax County Detention facility!

Posted by: Ghost of Sarah Palin ()

Date: February 19, 2015 07:11PM


Re: Mentally Ill Woman Murdered by LE in Fairfax County Detention facility!

Posted by: D9FKN ()

Date: February 16, 2015 10:22AM


"It definitely is bothersome, unfortunate that people um, that are claiming to get information from sources that are providing information that there may be half truths, no truths, partial truths," said Sheriff Kincaid.
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Afterword overheard was Kincaid telling the reporter " you can see Alaska from my office" !

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Elton John ()
Date: February 19, 2015 08:57PM

Re: Fairfax Sheriff

Posted by: Elton John ()

Date: February 19, 2015 08:54PM


I once sang a song called " Sorry seems to be the hardest word". Why have I not heard this Sheriff say this concerning this African American woman who died in HER custody?

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: The Truthest ()
Date: February 20, 2015 10:45AM

If you invite her to a function where she can have her picture taken with African women, she might do that. IF anybody thinks that she is sympathetic to what happen in the jail she is not.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Joe Biden VP ()
Date: February 21, 2015 12:41AM

Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Ghost of Sarah Palin ()
Date: February 19, 2015 07:19PM


Re: Mentally Ill Woman Murdered by LE in Fairfax County Detention facility!

Posted by: Ghost of Sarah Palin ()

Date: February 19, 2015 07:11PM


Re: Mentally Ill Woman Murdered by LE in Fairfax County Detention facility!

Posted by: D9FKN ()

Date: February 16, 2015 10:22AM


"It definitely is bothersome, unfortunate that people um, that are claiming to get information from sources that are providing information that there may be half truths, no truths, partial truths," said Sheriff Kincaid.
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Afterword overheard was Kincaid telling the reporter " you can see Alaska from my office" !
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Can I call you Joe?

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Raymann ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:09AM

http://www.peteearley.com/2015/02/20/fairfax-officials-fail-to-disclose-key-facts-about-taser-death-skip-over-details-about-natasha-mckennas-final-days/

Fairfax Officials Fail To Disclose Key Facts About Taser Death: Skip Over Details About Natasha McKenna’s Final Days

By: Pete Earley


Natasha McKenna, a 37 year-old African American woman with schizophrenia, was struck multiple times in the head by a sheriff’s deputy during an altercation in the jail on January 31st.

I first reported this disturbing fact in a blog on February 10th that I wrote to alert the Washington media that McKenna had been tasered more than four times in jail causing her to experience cardiac arrest.

The Fairfax Police Department and Sheriff’s Department issued a press release yesterday about McKenna. They acknowledged in that statement that McKenna “assaulted” a deputy on January 31st.

But the statement did not provide any details of that “assault,” nor did it acknowledge that during that confrontation a deputy struck McKenna multiple times on her head, even though the deputy followed standard jail procedures and wrote an incident report that described the altercation.

Why didn’t the police and sheriff’s office release a copy of that report? Why haven’t they admitted that a deputy struck McKenna?

This was not the only omission in the joint press release.


1. The most obvious is the number of times McKenna was shot with a taser. Here is what the press stated.


“a member of the SERT deployed a conducted energy weapon (Taser) on McKenna”

That antiseptic account does not accurately portray the horror of what happened. She was struck at least four separate times with the taser while six deputies were trying to restrain her.

Why was it necessary to shock her repeatedly in a controlled environment?

2. The release rebukes “outside sources” — an apparent reference to the The Washington Post and me - for reporting that McKenna’s finger had to be amputated. Here is what the release states:


There were reports from outside sources that alluded to McKenna suffering an amputated finger. However, the investigation by detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department affirmed that McKenna had a pre-existing injury (missing the tip of her ring finger on her left hand), which was noted during the arrest booking on Monday, Jan. 26.

The press report is accurate. McKenna did have an injured finger when she was booked into the jail. An obvious question that detectives might wish to ask is why didn’t medical personnel in the jail treat that injury rather than leaving it to painfully fester to the point that it needed to be amputated on February 3rd when she was rushed to the hospital.

But there is something else that the press report didn’t disclose.

McKenna’s finger was re-injured AFTER she was booked into the jail during an altercation with deputies. Again, following jail procedures, medical personnel were summoned to her cell and a report was written.

Why was the re-injury not mentioned in the release?

3. The January 31st altercation is significant according to the press statement because deputies used it to justify calling in a SERT team — deputies dressed in padded vests wearing helmets — when it came time to transport McKenna on February 3rd. In addition to NOT revealing that a deputy had struck McKenna multiple times in the head on January 31st, the press release also omitted another fact that I reported in my earlier blog.


McKenna became such a problem that officials at the jail decided last Tuesday, February 3rd, that they would stop waiting for Alexandria to come get her and take her there themselves. That morning, a veteran deputy informed McKenna that she was going to be transferred. McKenna asked if she was going to be hurt by the deputies, an apparent reference to being slapped in the head earlier. He assured her that if she cooperated she would not be hurt.

I reported that McKenna had agreed to go peacefully until she saw the SERT team and panicked.

Why was this not addressed in the press statement?

No one is disputing that McKenna was violent. She spit, kicked, and tried to bite deputies. But let’s not forget that McKenna initially called Fairfax police to report that she had been assaulted, according to the press statement. While responding to her complaint, Fairfax police realized that a warrant for her arrest had been issued. She went with the police without resistance to the jail.

What happened between January 26th when she was booked into the jail and February 3rd when she was repeatedly tasered that turned her from cooperative to combative?

In this morning’s Washington Post (2-20), reporter Justin Jouvenal wrote:

Police Chief Edwin C. Roessler Jr. has promised a quick and thorough investigation and monthly updates to the public…I’ve been watching events around the country and locally,” Roessler said. “As a profession, we need to be more transparent.”

A good first step would be for the Fairfax Police and Sheriff’s Office to release copies of ALL incident reports that involved Natasha McKenna while she was in jail rather than putting out a statement that tells only a part of what happened to her.

Here is the official press release:


The Fairfax County Police Department, in conjunction with the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office, released the following details regarding the current in-custody death investigation:

On Tuesday, Jan. 20, the Alexandria City Police Department obtained a felony warrant against Natasha McKenna for assaulting a law enforcement officer (Code of Virginia §18.2-57). The assault occurred during an encounter they had with her on Thursday, Jan. 15. On Sunday, Jan. 25, McKenna called the Fairfax County Department of Public Safety Communications Center reporting that she had been assaulted. The arriving Fairfax County police officer then assisted her with making the report and she agreed to be examined at a local hospital for her alleged injuries. Detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department’s Major Crimes Division and Crime Scene Section also responded to conduct a follow-up investigation. While at the hospital with McKenna, detectives and a victim services specialist assisted with the investigative efforts. During the course of the investigative efforts, McKenna elected to no longer pursue the investigation and declined further police services. During the course of the investigation, a record check revealed McKenna had the outstanding arrest warrant for assaulting a law enforcement officer in Alexandria City. On Monday, Jan. 26, shortly after 1 a.m., McKenna was transported from the hospital to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center (ADC), where the warrant was served and she was remanded to the custody of the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office, as directed by a Fairfax County magistrate. The Sheriff’s Office made contact with Alexandria at approximately 7:40 a.m. to inform them that they were holding an inmate with an Alexandria City charge.

On Saturday, Jan. 31, McKenna physically assaulted a Fairfax County deputy sheriff while incarcerated at the ADC. On Tuesday, Feb. 3, the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office, pursuant to its protocols for managing combative inmates, made a decision to have the Sheriff’s Emergency Response Team (SERT) remove McKenna from her cell for transport to the detention center in the City of Alexandria as related to her charge that originated in the City of Alexandria. As the SERT attempted to secure McKenna in her cell and restrain her for transport, she physically resisted the deputies and refused their commands. The SERT consisted of six deputy sheriffs, which included two supervisors.

During the struggle to restrain McKenna, a member of the SERT deployed a conducted energy weapon (Taser) on McKenna. While being restrained, deputies placed a spit net (which is designed to restrict and prevent spitting) on McKenna. A nurse from the ADC medical staff was present at that time to check on her prior to transport and cleared her for transport. Deputies attempted to put her in a medical transport chair, but McKenna continued to be combative and was moved to a restraint chair for transport to a vehicle transfer area, commonly known as a sally port. A Fairfax County deputy sheriff was assigned to record the deployment of the SERT and the video is currently retained as evidence by detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department and will not be released at this time.

Deputies escorted McKenna from the cell area to the sally port where the transport vehicle was waiting. Once at the sally port, medical personnel from the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office checked McKenna and determined she was experiencing a medical emergency. The spit net and restraints were removed and medical staff and deputies from the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office administered CPR and an automated external defibrillator (AED) while awaiting rescue personnel from the Fairfax City Fire Department. McKenna was then transported to the hospital by ambulance and after life support was removed, died on Sunday, Feb. 8.

There were reports from outside sources that alluded to McKenna suffering an amputated finger. However, the investigation by detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department affirmed that McKenna had a pre-existing injury (missing the tip of her ring finger on her left hand), which was noted during the arrest booking on Monday, Jan. 26.

To date, detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department have conducted an extensive number of comprehensive interviews, and the in-custody death investigation is active and on-going. When complete, detectives from the Fairfax County Police Department’s Major Crimes Division will present their entire investigation, which will include any video and data from the conducted energy weapon, along with the findings of the Office of the Medical Examiner (still awaiting report), to the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office for an independent review to determine if there is any criminal liability under the Code of Virginia.

All information provided in this release is based on the ongoing investigation and may be subject to revision as the investigation continues. The Fairfax County Police Department and the Fairfax County Sheriff’s Office continue to work together to release information and complete a swift, thorough investigation. The Fairfax County Police Department will provide further updates within the next 30 days or as soon as additional information becomes available.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: THUG LIFE ()
Date: February 21, 2015 09:56AM

The tugs administered the "FAIRFAX BEATDOWN"

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: The Ghost of Natasha ()
Date: February 21, 2015 10:56PM

(Sung to 41 shots-American Skin)
4 tazer shots
And we'll take that ride
I did nothing but have a mental problem
For that I died
4 tazer shots
That's what they say
The Doctor said it was more like five
The Sheriff will talk about it another day
Was it so big a deal?
Was I so bad?
A small woman with mental issues
It ended so sad
You can get killed just for living-in your American Skin
4 tazer shots
So scared and afraid
5 big guys dressed up in black
Yelling at me like I am a slave
4 Tazer shots
After beating me down
Black eyes,bruises and an amputated finger
Is what Fairfax Hospital found
Was I so big?
Was I so bad?
A small woman with mental issues
It ended so sad
You can killed just for living -in your American Skin
4 tazer shots
The SERT team fired me up good
All 5 were white guys having fun
Underneath their hood
4 tazer shots
And each one knew they went too far
SERT team went a little crazy this time
And they know who they are
You had Lucas,Krusty and Fairyman, and Henry the gay porn star
You can killed just for living-in your American skin
You can KILLED just for living- in your American skin
YOU CAN KILLED JUST FOR LIVING- IN YOUR AMERICAN SKIN

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Yawn IXXIV ()
Date: February 22, 2015 01:07PM

OK, I think we've seen enough iterations of your happenin' street-vibe song...you can stop posting it now...

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Yawn Yawn ()
Date: February 24, 2015 01:27PM

To Yawn ixxiv- my apologies- try this instead...


Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Suzanne Vega ()
Date: February 13, 2015 06:47PM


My name is Luca
I live on the 7th floor...
You don't know me...
I ordered them to taze that whore....
My name is Krusty...
You don't know me...
I have a tiny tool...
I helped kill that fool...
Along with Fairyman..
And Oh Henry the gay porn star...
You don't know us..
It all just went a little too far....
It just don't matter..
It just don't matter...
Anymore

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: Never Ends ()
Date: February 07, 2016 09:43AM

A protest is planned for the 1 year mark.

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Re: Fairfax County Deputies kill another one.
Posted by: doing it again? ()
Date: February 07, 2016 10:13AM

Are county government officials obstructing justice in this case as well?

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