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this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: joe woa ()
Date: April 10, 2009 05:37PM

charles kibler

http://www.fairfaxcrimesolvers.org/WantedFugitives/April%202009/kibler.html

Searched for: Last: kibler First: charles MI: w
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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: April 10, 2009 05:42PM

impressive. i wonder what his JV record looked like. talk about a rap sheet. now all he has to do is put out an album and he'll go strait to the top!


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: 867-5309 ()
Date: April 10, 2009 05:49PM

I'm going to take a WAG here an guess his current address will be fixed for a while,

Charles Kibler
Inmate # ????
ADC Chain Bridge Rd.
Fairfax, Va 22???

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: COPSISAMORON ()
Date: April 10, 2009 06:59PM

He's out because he eats DONUT at the CAR WASH and Im too much of a dingus to come up with anything original DONUT DONUT DONUT DONUT DONUT my parents hate me.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: COPS ()
Date: April 10, 2009 07:14PM

Calm down ... they hate you only when you eat DONUT and forget to clean up the crumbs
you supposed to lick the plate clean .. then you fingers ... voila .. see .. all clean ,,,,

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: April 10, 2009 10:29PM

All of the charges from 2/18/2009 go before a judge on 4/13/2009, so like, next week. He's already served time for previous offenses and he's already been convicted twice on marijuana charges. I suspect he'll be locked up for a good long time with this most recent, and increasingly more violent, set of charges.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: April 10, 2009 10:47PM

Why would he bother to show up in court?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: April 10, 2009 11:19PM

Easy. He's in jail pending trial. He was arrested in February after assaulting a police officer. Here is the writeup from a Fairfax County Incident Report.

"On February 18 around 7:00 p.m., an officer saw a man walking through a parking lot in the 6000 block of Richmond Highway carrying an open beer. The officer stopped him and during the investigation, the man allegedly struck the officer and fled on foot. 23-year-old Charles Kibler, of no fixed address, was located nearby. He was arrested and transported to the Fairfax County Adult Detention Center where he was charged with assault on a police officer, felony obstruction
of justice and possession of an open container. No one required medical attention."

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: joe woa ()
Date: April 10, 2009 11:37PM

he was added to the most wanted list on 04/01/09 and he is still on it

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: April 11, 2009 12:39AM

If he really was released on bail after being arrested on two felony counts and with his prior record, then the judge who let him post bail should lose his job.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: April 11, 2009 01:18PM

boredom Wrote:
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> If he really was released on bail after being
> arrested on two felony counts and with his prior
> record, then the judge who let him post bail
> should lose his job.


his priors have little to do with allowing him to post bail. what does have everything to do with it is that he has previously been a fugitive.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: boredom ()
Date: April 11, 2009 01:53PM

Your record is taken into consideration, especially if you're coming in on felony charges. Bail is only set for people who are not likely to flee and who are not likely to keep breaking the law if they are released.

It's moot anyway since he was released.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Date: April 11, 2009 02:09PM

He'll be out until he is "undeservedly stabbed to death" by someone he is trying to rob.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: noneyah ()
Date: March 28, 2013 11:46PM

What I dont understand is why any of you are concerned with what charles kibler is doing? He is always arrested on dumb stuff basically. He's not out here killing and robbing people he is not a danger to any of you!

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o_0
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:22AM

What I dont understand is how you could be so much of a dumbfuck that you would dig up this FOUR YEAR OLD THREAD - all so you can say "Y'all shouldnt be concerned about this"!?!!?!?!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?
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Re: o_0
Posted by: pcLXu ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:26AM

Gordon Blvd Wrote:
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> What I dont understand is how you could be so much
> of a dumbfuck that you would dig up this FOUR YEAR
> OLD THREAD - all so you can say "Y'all shouldnt
> be concerned about this"!?!!?!?!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?


Gordon, looks like you might have found a mate for one of those fat-ass retarded daughters of yours. LoLzzzzzz


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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:43AM

Since that four year old post, Kibler's arrest record has only become more serious, and he recently moved to Woodbridge.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:44AM

noneyah Wrote:
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> What I dont understand is why any of you are
> concerned with what charles kibler is doing? He is
> always arrested on dumb stuff basically. He's not
> out here killing and robbing people he is not a
> danger to any of you!



Actually according to his updated record, he has various assaults and death threats charges. It's only a matter of time before he kills someone, or kills himself in some sort of death by cop.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 29, 2013 08:46AM

KIBLER CHARLES W 25 06/02/2010 19.2-128(B) FAILURE TO APPEAR: ON FELONY OFFENSE , ,
KIBLER CHARLES W 25 06/02/2010 19.2-306 PROBATION: VIOLATION ON FELONY OFFENSE , ,
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 25 06/20/2010 18.2-250.1 DRUGS: POSSESS MARIJUANA, 2+ OFF 7928 SAUSALITO PL, ALEXANDRIA, VA 22306
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 25 06/20/2010 18.2-460(B) OBSTRUCT JUSTICE: W/ THREATS/FORCE 7928 SAUSALITO PL, ALEXANDRIA, VA 22306
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 25 06/20/2010 18.2-57(C) ASSAULT: ON LAW ENF/JUDGE/DOC/FIRE/EMERG PERSON 7928 SAUSALITO PL, ALEXANDRIA, VA 22306
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 04/29/2012 18.2-250.1 DRUGS: POSSESS MARIJUANA, 2+ OFF 7928 SAUSALITO PLACE, ALEXANDRIA, VA 22309
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 04/29/2012 18.2-308.2(A) WEAPON: POSSESS BY FELON (NOT FIREARM) 7928 SAUSALITO PLACE, ALEXANDRIA, VA 22309
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 06/02/2012 18.2-250.1 DRUGS: POSSESS MARIJUANA, 2+ OFF 12354 POND RUN DRIVE, WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 06/02/2012 18.2-250.1 DRUGS: POSSESS MARIJUANA, 2+ OFF 12354 POND RUN DRIVE, WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 06/02/2012 19.2-306 PROBATION: VIOLATION ON FELONY OFFENSE 12354 POND RUN DRIVE, WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192
KIBLER CHARLES WILLIE 27 06/02/2012 19.2-306 PROBATION: VIOLATION ON FELONY OFFENSE 12354 POND RUN DRIVE, WOODBRIDGE, VA 22192

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Stabitha ()
Date: March 29, 2013 09:19AM

All this in 23 years. Impressive.

Just magnifies the failure of our criminal justice system. And just think how much we the taxpayers have shelled out for court appointed attys for all this shit?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: WOW!!!! ()
Date: March 29, 2013 09:33AM

What do you expect of this fucktard????

The address for Sausalito Av and El Camino Pl are in the ghetto of Sequoia. I use to live there back in the early 80's and that place wasn't the greatest so I can imagine what it is like now. Also, it's next to the snotshit hole of Janna Lee Apts.

Only this type of fucktard would live there!!!!

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: wnrsm ()
Date: March 30, 2013 12:22AM

What I dont understand is why any of you are concerned with what charles kibler is doing? He is always arrested on dumb stuff basically. He's not out here killing and robbing people he is not a danger to any of you!

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: 9999999999 ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:11AM

Some woman in the city of FFX has around 70 DIP's. The arrest/ticket search on FFU does not show the cities arrest but I stummbled upon it looking up somone else.. Pages upon pages of arrests.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: 9999999999 ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:26AM

69 summons stemming from 2003 just in the city and this in FFX county.


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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: WvwmN ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:37AM


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another fine example of high-class luxury LoLz
Posted by: Gordon Blvd ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:50AM

what's REALLY funny is that woman lives out in like Clifton/Fairfax Station area

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: M6m6Y ()
Date: March 30, 2013 07:57AM

Now a TLC dweller and has been intradicted by the state. Rehab aint gonna help this one!

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: eesh ()
Date: March 30, 2013 09:37AM

WvwmN Wrote:
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> check out the junk yard from one of the adresses.
> LMAO. Explains a lot.
>
> http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5
> 616-Hope-Park-Rd_Fairfax_VA_22030_M68536-49225?sou
> rce=web#axzz2P1Qoxvbp




Is that an abandoned school bus?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: bYnDx ()
Date: March 30, 2013 11:22AM

eesh Wrote:
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> WvwmN Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > check out the junk yard from one of the
> adresses.
> > LMAO. Explains a lot.
> >
> >
> http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5
>
> >
> 616-Hope-Park-Rd_Fairfax_VA_22030_M68536-49225?sou
>
> > rce=web#axzz2P1Qoxvbp
>
>
>
>
> Is that an abandoned school bus?

Some many call it a abondoned school bus but the occupants call it home. Anyone have the number to the show hoarders burried alive?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Samantha bates ()
Date: May 17, 2013 10:05AM

This is my brother. Don't talk about him if you don't know his story. thank you

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: easy121201209 ()
Date: May 17, 2013 11:43AM

All of the pussy liberals in the FFXCO govt see this person as a product of environment and not HIS fault. He is entitled to a 2nd, 3rd, etc. chance because he is a victim of the system/environment.

Just threaten liberals with execution in the FFXCO govt. building parking lot on Fridays, and maybe those fuckers will do their jobs and stop the heart bleeding.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Long Timer ()
Date: May 30, 2013 11:31PM

He's the victim.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: I'm with her ()
Date: July 28, 2016 07:56PM

And Fast Terry just gave him his voting rights back. Shame.

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Posted by: chuckhoffmann ()
Date: September 13, 2016 11:39PM

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/15/2016 09:55AM by chuckhoffmann.

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Shockerz ()
Date: September 14, 2016 12:43AM

chuckhoffmann Wrote:
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> Not out any more. Arrested July 25, 2016 for 2nd
> degree murder.
>
> See
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.t
> xt and
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/update-a
> rrest-made-in-homicide/


Who'd have seen that coming?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Colin Kapernigger ()
Date: September 14, 2016 08:19AM

Look at all these charges against this poor black man. How is this racial justice? This is oppression. I don't see white people being charged with this many crimes. When will the horrible racial oppression end?

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Re: this guy is amazing how he is still out?
Posted by: Jeanne Dixon ()
Date: September 14, 2016 09:06AM

Shockerz Wrote:
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> chuckhoffmann Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Not out any more. Arrested July 25, 2016 for
> 2nd
> > degree murder.
> >
> > See
> >
> http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.t
>
> > xt and
> >
> https://fcpdnews.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/update-a
>
> > rrest-made-in-homicide/
>
>
> Who'd have seen that coming?

Certainly not a liberal.

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