HomeFairfax General ForumArrest/Ticket SearchWiki newPictures/VideosChatArticlesLinksAbout
Fairfax County General :  Fairfax Underground fairfax underground logo
Welcome to Fairfax Underground, a project site designed to improve communication among residents of Fairfax County, VA. Feel free to post anything Northern Virginia residents would find interesting.
Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Viennamom ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:09AM

What is going on?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: NCPkN ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:16AM

Im not one to bitch about the helo but that f-ing thing has been circling for over a hour waking up my entire family. Over the scanner they are looking for some dirt bag named danny. Thanks for keeping me up dan!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: woke me up too ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:33AM

With the advancements in LEO/military FLIR the FCPD should be flying at a much higher altitude
where it would be almost unnoticeable to people on the ground the helicopter is even their. Obviously
by now the perp has left the area and aimlessly flying around in a helicopter is doing no one any good.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:57AM

Danny jumped out of his car and ran after a traffic stop. The helo helps the K9 in the search for Danny. He got away tonight but they know who he is and where he may live.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: NdKM6 ()
Date: December 14, 2014 06:17AM

6X Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Danny jumped out of his car and ran after a
> traffic stop. The helo helps the K9 in the search
> for Danny. He got away tonight but they know who
> he is and where he may live.

Obviously the helo did not help anyone. Although one could argue
it was a very expensive 4am alarm clock for vienna/Fairfax.

What a waste of resources for someone they know and can catch
later. Personally im sick of the over usage of the helicopter
for petty crimes.

FCPD has to justify the massive budget they have so in turn
they use the helo for such minor offenses it is getting down
right ridiculous. I would like to see some sort of data to
justify cost/capture.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: December 14, 2014 07:02AM

NdKM6 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 6X Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Danny jumped out of his car and ran after a
> > traffic stop. The helo helps the K9 in the
> search
> > for Danny. He got away tonight but they know
> who
> > he is and where he may live.
>
> Obviously the helo did not help anyone. Although
> one could argue
> it was a very expensive 4am alarm clock for
> vienna/Fairfax.
>
> What a waste of resources for someone they know
> and can catch
> later. Personally im sick of the over usage of the
> helicopter
> for petty crimes.
>
> FCPD has to justify the massive budget they have
> so in turn
> they use the helo for such minor offenses it is
> getting down
> right ridiculous. I would like to see some sort of
> data to
> justify cost/capture.

I'm sure Danny was drunk, had drugs, was wanted or something or he would not of run. The helo helps with officer safety just in case Danny is hiding and willing to shoot the cop to get away.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 1 born every second ()
Date: December 14, 2014 07:51AM

6X Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
The helo helps
> with officer safety just in case Danny is hiding
> and willing to shoot the cop to get away.


Have any proof of that? Or are you just going off of paranoid speculation?

Did he in fact have a gun? Send in the MRAP's everyone!!! Danny is a crazed

loony!! 6X said so! THANK god for the helicopter, it sure was effective!


I cant imagine how any other PD in the country manages to find a person

without a bird? But I did hear a rumor people turn themselves in quite often

after cooling down for 24 hours.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Alexander Smith ()
Date: December 14, 2014 11:44AM

6X Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> NdKM6 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > 6X Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Danny jumped out of his car and ran after a
> > > traffic stop. The helo helps the K9 in the
> > search
> > > for Danny. He got away tonight but they know
> > who
> > > he is and where he may live.
> >
> > Obviously the helo did not help anyone.
> Although
> > one could argue
> > it was a very expensive 4am alarm clock for
> > vienna/Fairfax.
> >
> > What a waste of resources for someone they know
> > and can catch
> > later. Personally im sick of the over usage of
> the
> > helicopter
> > for petty crimes.
> >
> > FCPD has to justify the massive budget they
> have
> > so in turn
> > they use the helo for such minor offenses it is
> > getting down
> > right ridiculous. I would like to see some sort
> of
> > data to
> > justify cost/capture.
>
> I'm sure Danny was drunk, had drugs, was wanted or
> something or he would not of run. The helo helps
> with officer safety just in case Danny is hiding
> and willing to shoot the cop to get away.


Why do cops always present the argument that they "might" be shot by some criminal? If so, who cares? Citizens need to protect themselves much more than police and you took the job knowing full well what to expect. They really need to tone it down.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 9I ()
Date: December 14, 2014 12:31PM

I think 6X is Roslers bitch.......Scout 9I out.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Morons... ()
Date: December 14, 2014 12:31PM

Name a city, county, or state of equal population that does not have police helicopters. These are already bought and paid for. Using them does not increase your taxes, but it does improve the effectiveness of police.

Police worry about being shot for the same reason that coal miners worry about cave-ins and explosions. Nobody likes being put into harm's way, particularly when there are alternative means to accomplish the mission with reduced risk.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 9I ()
Date: December 14, 2014 12:37PM

It is a conspiracy by MPO DeHaven to keep you all up. EIT being deployed by FCPD Führer Rosler to cause the common man sleep deprivation.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 6X ()
Date: December 14, 2014 12:55PM

Maybe it was Danny that killed the man. It was about the same time. http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/read/2/1733897.html

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: PJFXL ()
Date: December 14, 2014 01:45PM

FLIR usuage is still more accurate at a lower altitude, not sure who the local expert is that thinks the helo will be so high you will not hear it.

As for the FCPD usage of the helo, depends on what is going on and often if the helo is already up and has fuel it may stop in to help out in a situation.

It is another tool for the police to use and it is not "over used". It is staffed and maintained, so you might as well use it when the situaiton is needed.

Montgomery County has many helo's that are actually MSP, they are used in MoCo far more than FFX as FFX only has one, occasionally a VSP helo will help out, but it is not stationed close by to FFX.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Just wondering ()
Date: December 14, 2014 02:05PM

How does "helo" become short for a "helicopter"?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: retired and proud of it ()
Date: December 14, 2014 02:06PM

Just wondering Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How does "helo" become short for a "helicopter"?

Military term.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: GBW ()
Date: December 14, 2014 02:10PM

Just wondering Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> How does "helo" become short for a "helicopter"?


At least they didn't use the term that really annoys me .... "chopper". I think everyone who uses that term must have grown up watching M.A.S.H.!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: close to home ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:17PM

Morons... Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Name a city, county, or state of equal population
> that does not have police helicopters.

I just need to look across the river to find one.

Montgomery County, MD.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Never a dull moment ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:20PM

The great mattress caper if 2014!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Does not compute ()
Date: December 14, 2014 05:56PM

close to home Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I just need to look across the river to find one.
> Montgomery County, MD.

https://www.google.com/search?q=montgomery+county+md+police+helicopter&biw=893&bih=527&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=iRSOVPDZLMSVNuyEgvAK&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAw&dpr=0.9

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: close to home ()
Date: December 14, 2014 07:07PM

Does not compute Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> close to home Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I just need to look across the river to find
> one.
> > Montgomery County, MD.
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=montgomery+county+
> md+police+helicopter&biw=893&bih=527&source=lnms&t
> bm=isch&sa=X&ei=iRSOVPDZLMSVNuyEgvAK&ved=0CAgQ_AUo
> Aw&dpr=0.9

What's the point of your post? You want to prove my assertion that the MoCo PD doesn't have a helicopter?

Which one of those is a picture of a Montgomery County Police helicopter? Hint, not a single one.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: w3vLc ()
Date: December 14, 2014 10:42PM

Jesus, what a bunch of bickering about nothing.

Fairfax has at least 1 helicopter and they use it often, records show that Fairfax has 2 different helicopters licensed but they may rotate them, I do not recall seeing, hearing both units operational at the same time, but it is a possibility they have operated more than a single helicopter.

VA State Police has 2 helicopters but they work the Southern part of VA and do not regularly end up close to NOVA.

Montgomery and PG County do not have helicopters, but MD State Police provide helicopter support for these counties, and I recall there is a MSP heliport somewhere in upper Montgomery County as I recall.

US Park Police have 2 helicopters as I recall and they often support rescues at Great Falls and other locations that are around the Potomac and for US Park Service property and parkways.

If you hear a helicopter circling more often than not the are supporting officers on the ground, tracking someone or looking for a missing person. Sometimes a helicopter is waiting to land for a medical transport as well. Unless the helicopter can land is a reasonably secure location like a school property or field, often they land directly on the roadway and they will not land until the patient is ready to be loaded. They usually do not stay on the roadway longer than necessary.

There are a few AirCare independent medical transport helicopter services but I have not kept up with them. I believe that AirCare was out of Manassas and had 1 helicopter for the NOVA area.

There are a number of other independent medial air transport services scattered all over VA outside of the NOVA area as well.

With a county that is close to 400 square miles and 1 million residents, it does make sense to have helicopter support.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: whap whap ()
Date: December 15, 2014 09:34AM

w3vLc Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Montgomery and PG County do not have helicopters,
> but MD State Police provide helicopter support for
> these counties,

So much disinformation in this thread.

New+Paint+Helicopter.jpg;

tumblr_mehg5y6mD01rqvefao1_1280.jpg

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: w3vLc ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:41PM

Oh well, so I was unaware that somehow PG County was able to get the money and staff for a helicopter unit. I was unaware that PG could put 2 and 2 together and come up with anything. They actually have 2 helicopters, like FCPD. Seems PG has had helicopters for at least 4 years, maybe longer. But I have NO REASON to ever speed any time in PG County.

This was news to me. So Montgomery County does not have helicopters unless in the last 10 years they have found the money and put together their own program.

For YEARS MSP has supported MOCO and as far as I was aware PG as well.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: whap whap ()
Date: December 15, 2014 12:51PM

w3vLc Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Oh well, so I was unaware that somehow PG County
> was able to get the money and staff for a
> helicopter unit. I was unaware that PG could put 2
> and 2 together and come up with anything. They
> actually have 2 helicopters, like FCPD. Seems PG
> has had helicopters for at least 4 years, maybe
> longer. But I have NO REASON to ever speed any
> time in PG County.

And thus you have NO REASON to make a statement about their PD without having knowledge of the situation.

> This was news to me. So Montgomery County does not
> have helicopters unless in the last 10 years they
> have found the money and put together their own
> program.

They do not have one.

> For YEARS MSP has supported MOCO and as far as I
> was aware PG as well.

Maybe it's time you get with the times...

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: PG Coptor Jr ()
Date: December 15, 2014 01:08PM

Enjoying the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought?

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: w3vLc ()
Date: December 15, 2014 01:10PM

Hey smart guy, if you know so much why don't you explain all about the PG Helicopter program.

So I was unaware, no problem I FUCKED UP and made a mistake I owned it. I guess you NEVER make a mistake, you are obviously perfect.

IT AMAZES me that PG could put together the money for a program, but they did.

If PG can have helicopters, then Fairfax should as well.

This is about all the crybaby mothers that are complaining they get woken up in the middle of the night. So be it, would they rather not have anyone watching out for the community in the evening.

I guess both you and the crybabies would really be mortified if knew about the FCPD helicopter crash at West Ox many years ago when they forgot to disconnect the shore connection when they attempted to lift off!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Dean Wormer ()
Date: December 15, 2014 03:21PM

Ever drive the beltway in PG County? They need an entire fleet of helicopters to catch the thugging homies. Lawless, f'ing lawless.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Master N Johnson ()
Date: December 16, 2014 12:22PM

w3vLc Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hey smart guy, if you know so much why don't you
> explain all about the PG Helicopter program.
>
> So I was unaware, no problem I FUCKED UP and made
> a mistake I owned it. I guess you NEVER make a
> mistake, you are obviously perfect.
>
> IT AMAZES me that PG could put together the money
> for a program, but they did.
>
> If PG can have helicopters, then Fairfax should as
> well.
>
> This is about all the crybaby mothers that are
> complaining they get woken up in the middle of the
> night. So be it, would they rather not have anyone
> watching out for the community in the evening.
>
> I guess both you and the crybabies would really be
> mortified if knew about the FCPD helicopter crash
> at West Ox many years ago when they forgot to
> disconnect the shore connection when they
> attempted to lift off!

Someone needs to get laid!

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: Whoop Whoop ()
Date: December 16, 2014 01:08PM

Oakton and Vienna are chock-full of Helicopter Moms....always hovering over Bennett, Morgan, Hannah, and Annalisa. These fat cottage-cheese thigh-brushing women need to get a life.

Options: ReplyQuote
Re: Helicopter circling around oakton/Vienna 12/14/14 at 4am
Posted by: 3DJDP ()
Date: December 16, 2014 02:01PM

Master N Johnson Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Someone needs to get laid!

That ain't the half of it.

Options: ReplyQuote


Your Name: 
Your Email (Optional): 
Subject: 
Attach a file
  • No file can be larger than 75 MB
  • All files together cannot be larger than 300 MB
  • 30 more file(s) can be attached to this message
Spam prevention:
Please, enter the code that you see below in the input field. This is for blocking bots that try to post this form automatically.
 **      **   *******   **      **  **         **     ** 
 **  **  **  **     **  **  **  **  **    **   **     ** 
 **  **  **         **  **  **  **  **    **   **     ** 
 **  **  **   *******   **  **  **  **    **   **     ** 
 **  **  **         **  **  **  **  *********   **   **  
 **  **  **  **     **  **  **  **        **     ** **   
  ***  ***    *******    ***  ***         **      ***    
This forum powered by Phorum.