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White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Dynamite44 ()
Date: May 13, 2005 10:33AM

has anyone seen the white crown victorias in McLean that just say POLICE in blue letters on the side? they have US Government tags, not the typical Virgnia "for official local government use only" tags. The cars don't say US Park Police, State Trooper, Sheriff, or County or anything, just POLICE.
The cars seem to be P71 cars, with either stamped steel rims with cetercaps or P71 chrome hubcaps. All the ones that i have seen have the spotlight as well.
These can be seen on major roads in McLean, such as route 123 (dolley madison/chain bridge road) lewinsville road, and old dominion drive.
There is only ever one person in each car, wearing a dark blue uniform. Because the CIA is based in McLean (no, not "Langley", if you really know the area, you know that Langley is a section of McLean, much like Chesterbrook is), i'm thinking that theyre some sort of security for the CIA.
I've seen the cops blow by me on 123 at all times of the day with their lights and sirens on, but never pull anyone over.
Ive seen them pull into the little road where the park is on Georgetown Pike, almost where Georgetown pike dead ends into chain bridge road/route 123. I've been down that road before, its actually the back entrance into the CIA, i turned around before i got to the gate.
One interesting point: ive seen them pull into Farm Credit Drive off of Lewinsville road (not far from the McLean police station which is at the intersection of Lewinsville and the end of Balls Hill). I know that some of the office buildings that were in that development off of farm credit drive were demolished last year and rebuilt, its something high security no doubt. Anyone else know what i'm talking about?

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Mateo ()
Date: May 14, 2005 12:38PM



ha ha...."balls hill."

i'd think you were making it up if it weren't for the fact that I've spent hours at the stop light.

if you asked them they'd probably say they work for the state department. yeah, right. no one actually works for the state department. it's just condoleezza rice and a few secretaries.....maybe a janitor. i've known at least four people who retired from the "state department" only to say, "yeah, i was messin' with ya."

well balls hill has a cop station. we should march in and demand they respect our right to know.

i wonder if they get on one another's turf....Fairfax vs. mystery cops. they should have a good old fashioned gang war. what ever happened to the days when the cops were like, "oh shit....the feds? they suck." they'd never get along.


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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: pfc. johnson ()
Date: May 16, 2005 05:31PM

its true i work there

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: SWweeman ()
Date: May 20, 2005 03:12PM

Lets see. There is a large government facility in Langley that has large windows that missiles probably can't penetrate. It's called the CIA. They are CIA cops.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: dynamite44 ()
Date: May 20, 2005 10:55PM

show me the missle biotch!
ive lived in the same zip code my whole life and never seen the missles. anyone ever heard of the NIKE missle sites accross the metro area, including the closest one off of georgetown pike in great falls

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: rstidman ()
Date: May 20, 2005 11:04PM

I used to play ball at nike park in herndon, the wash post does throwback stories about the nikes once every ten years

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: PhilLesh ()
Date: May 21, 2005 02:52AM

They're "federal police". They don't exist, they're just security guards. They patrol all federal facilities around the area. You can even see them in Reston, like near weihle, up reston parkway, and ESPECIALLY in tysons (the "bin laden unit" of the CIA is in some non-descript buidling in tysons, I haven't figured out which one, but I suspect it's the small building next to the mcdonalds at 123 and courthouse.)

I love it when I approach a cluster-fuck of idiots sitting behind one of these cars on 123, one idiot invariably sitting a car-length back in the left lane. I'll work my way up, jump in front of the moron blocking the left lane, drop a gear and chirp tire and jet past the white cop car. Sometimes if I hit it right, i'll fishtail a tad, making it even more dramatic. I just know it blows all the mainstreamer's minds. They can't figure out why I don't get pulled over.

One time, I did this, and the jerk sped up and did the typical state police tactic of riding my tail. I slammed on my brakes, and the idiot 360'd 3 times before landing in the grassy median. I laughed my ass of the whole way home! I know he had to call for a tow truck, and was forced to figure out some explanation for why he stuck his car in the mud. It was classic!

One tried to race me on Old Chain Bridge, from the light just past safeway. My cobra blew his ass away. I didn't even think about racing a marked car, but figured it out pretty quickly, dropped gear and dusted his ass. Then the dumb ass tried to turn into the exxon on the corner of OCB and old dominion, and almost bit the curb. Again, CLASSIC!

They're just security guards. Sure, they might have the "jurisdiction" like real federal police (park police, secret service, etc), but they certainly don't use it.

I think they work for GSA, but I can't say that is a knowledgeable guess, just a best guess.

Has anyone seen the blazers and other dark SUV's with the slim-line blue and red lights on the roof? Usually both front and back. They're CIA security. They are usually gophering for coffee and munchies for their higher ups. They like to race hot cars too. They have it in their head that they are special because they're security guards at the CIA. But they don't know how to drive and pull all kinds of stupid shit on the road. I love to fuck with them, too. They're just grunts like the rest of us anyway.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Iwa zalaw ()
Date: May 30, 2005 12:56AM

You're lucky. There's no doubt what you write could have caused any of these officers to arrest you on the spot.

If you do anything to interfere with a poilice investigation or law enforcement activity, you've obstructed justice, plain and simple. They could have arrested your ass for any number of reasons.

Dickhead.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Iwa zalaw ()
Date: May 30, 2005 01:24AM

man, i'm serious. you are the kind of prick that truly pisses me off. you screw around with us while we're trying to do our jobs, and make our jobs harder.

if I saw you on the streets, I'd tazer your ass just for purely personal pleasure.

Go ahead, make my day!

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: PaperPusher ()
Date: May 30, 2005 01:43AM

Iwa, you're too stupid to be the law. Oh wait a minute, you're perfect for the job.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Iwa zalaw ()
Date: May 30, 2005 02:05AM

PaperPusher Wrote:
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> Iwa, you're too stupid to be the law. Oh wait a
> minute, you're perfect for the job.


See, it's punks like you that make us look so bad. We don't go after innocent people. We like to take down criminals. They make our world so bad. If people didn't respect the law, it would be pure anarchy. That's a terrible way to live your life. We make sure everyone conforms to societies ways of doing things.

That's all. We're just trying to keep it real.


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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Smobien ()
Date: May 30, 2005 03:02AM

'We like to take down criminals.'

Yep you sure do. I see a whole lotta crime going on at McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts.

See, it's pompous pricks like you that make us non-criminals look so bad.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: kklare ()
Date: May 30, 2005 12:42PM

Iwa,
People do respect you and the work you do until they get fucked with that one time when they're not doing anything wrong and they're faced with an over-zealous officer with a chip on his shoulder and a power trip to endulge. Unfortunately that kind of cop is everywhere and after the second and third encounter, the person will refer to you as a pig, won't trust you even when you're needed, and they will resent any police presence. I'm glad I don't have the job but a lot of these pricks deserve nothing better.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Mateo1 ()
Date: May 30, 2005 08:43PM


Dynamite44 -

If I remember correctly you once had a run-in with one of these police officers, didn't you?

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Tim ()
Date: June 02, 2005 03:53PM

Dynamite44 Wrote:
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> One interesting point: ive seen them pull into
> Farm Credit Drive off of Lewinsville road (not far
> from the McLean police station which is at the
> intersection of Lewinsville and the end of Balls
> Hill). I know that some of the office buildings
> that were in that development off of farm credit
> drive were demolished last year and rebuilt, its
> something high security no doubt. Anyone else know
> what i'm talking about?
>


Until recently, I worked for a government contractor in one of those office buildings on Farm Credit. I used to see those cars around as well. I also think that they're some sort of generic security team.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Gravis ()
Date: June 04, 2005 02:41PM

Iwa zalaw,

> "We make sure everyone conforms to societies ways of doing things."

well... i guess freedom is out of the question then. you sound like a socialist. so.., i guess we should all wear the same things too and drive the same car. you are the type of trash that society wants to get rid of.



"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."095042938540

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: dynamite44 ()
Date: June 07, 2005 08:13PM

Iwa zalaw Wrote:
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> You're lucky. There's no doubt what you write
> could have caused any of these officers to arrest
> you on the spot.
>
> If you do anything to interfere with a poilice
> investigation or law enforcement activity, you've
> obstructed justice, plain and simple. They could
> have arrested your ass for any number of reasons.
>
> Dickhead.


wow. i didnt know that stating that i had witnessed a police car was an obstruction of justice. and how exactly did i interfere? can someone explain this to me because i heard of a little thing called freedom of speech. stating an observation is completely legal. what could they have arrested me for right on the spot? for seeing them? for questioning what kind of police they are?
i didnt know that asking questions like what kind of a cop are you could land someone in jail. you dont sound like a cop.
i'm sure impersonating a police officer is a much worse crime than writing about police cars i see in McLean.
And one last thing, thanks for calling me a dickhead. im glad fairfax county's finest are adult enough to resort to name calling.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: kklare ()
Date: June 07, 2005 11:28PM

"Obstruction of Justice" is a bullshit threat that sounds scary. Especially on a site where we can all pretend to be cops.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: stinee ()
Date: June 08, 2005 10:19AM

Iwa zalaw...way to go. If you were a cop why the hell would you be telling everybody it. Plus the dickhead comment just completely blew anyhope of making you believe you.

Obstruction of Justice would have been valid IF the "police" were the ones who were actually there. If they really were police they would have had to make it clear that there was a police activity going on otherwise you could not have been obstructing justice. So basically simply teasing them by speeding awy would not have been valid becasue you could claim that you didn't know they were really police becasue they weren't making it clear or driving marked cars.

I do have to admit I'm slightly bias against cops becasue I skate. Apparantly skating anywhere where there are people is bad because no matter where I seem to go, if I have a skateboard at least one cop will say something to me. Usually it's just one of trying to be tough by saying something like "okay kids, don't do anything you'll regret later...remember I'm watching you."

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: face ()
Date: June 13, 2005 04:32PM

"I think they work for GSA, but I can't say that is a knowledgeable guess, just a best guess."


most likely, they are federal CONTRACT security officers. maybe CIA, maybe other federally mandated facilities/agencies.

GSA stands for General Supply Agency. GSA is the agency that supplies the federal government with cars. so any car you see with the tag G##-##### (and it should also say GSA and "for official govt use only" on it) is supplied by GSA to the federal govt, but NOT necessarily for law enforcement purposes.

and yes, real people do work for the state department. it's not just a shell department used for official cover.

=)

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Randy ()
Date: June 13, 2005 06:47PM

GSA = General Services Administration http://www.gsa.gov/Portal/gsa/ep/home.do?tabId=0 .





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/13/2005 07:04PM by Randy.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: SWweeman ()
Date: June 13, 2005 07:06PM

They are CIA police, not GSA. The GSA cruisers have a different badge symbol on their doors. The CIA has their own force and secures numerous facilities in the area, especially McLean. This is not a guess, as others have said. I know for a fact that is who they are. GSA Police do not have any authority on CIA property, just as GSA has no authority at FBI facilities. The FBI has their own police force patrolling Quantico and DC headquarters. They do mostly security work, gate and door gaurds, but they have police authority to enforce federal and assimilated state criminal and traffic laws on their properties. Obviously many of you have no idea what you're talking about and are just trying to discredit others when you shouldn't even be typing a damn thing, because you can't admit you don't know. Morons.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: face ()
Date: June 13, 2005 10:22PM

sorry, randy is right about GSA

i was in a rush at work and couldn't be asked to look it up. but we get all our cars from GSA down in franconia.

GSA however has nothing to do with law enforcement. some federal agencies get their vehicles FROM GSA, like i said, but the people operating the vehicles are either contractors or full hires for whatever department or agency...

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Mateo ()
Date: June 13, 2005 11:23PM

face -

my comment about the state department was good-humored hyperbole, my friend.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: face ()
Date: July 10, 2005 07:22PM

no doubt mateo =)

only the lame ass spies use State as an official cover. the leet spies are non-official covers anyway!

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Resident ()
Date: July 29, 2005 04:41PM

I have lived near the CIA now for 5 years. The "under-cover" police cars are not marked anymore, and the color is now black,they have US gov't license plates or DC tags with BX-5678 which as SS cars or any four digit combo on them --and they also have SS (secret service) SUV's with light bars on them in this area and at least 4 radios in them.
They get to go out to McDonalds for lunch at I have nearly been run off of the road by several of them trying to get to McDonalds and back on rt 123 Dolly Madison.No wonder noone formmout of the area can find an address in this area look at the map and try to figure out where 123 ends and begins, and why two roads are called "Chain Bridge and why Langley is in McLean????
The local cops don't want anything to do with them, and they also avoid getting near them.
Word has it that as "federalies" they have arrest jurisdiction anywhere they are,
so my advise to Mustang Man, go ahead and try that cruise again and we will be reading about your sorry ass carcass getting slammed in the road, and then we can call you what you want to be-- "roadkill".
There is also rumors of the confirmed kind in the "Poast"as I call it news-- that says that the Dept of Homey Security (who are they kidding) has a new building in the Tysons Corner area which is used to track terrorists, which is the one probably mentioned off of Farm Credit Dr.near Fannie Mae or Sallie Mae whatever that is down the hill from the McLean Hilton.
Can someone please question the "whacker" who works at McLean Hardware about why
he has two vehicles which are pretend "police" cars(one actually says police interceptor by Ford on it) and is a Grand Marquis,
dark blue with Virginia tag on back and a big blue stripe across the front tag where the front virginia license plate supposed to be according to state law, and several antennas ---he can be arrested if he even tries to "pull someone over".
I think he is a retired cop or someone who is a "wannabe".
He also owns a suburban same color sheme and radios (scanners etc).
He is a older heavy white guy. He is not breaking the law per se, but he is close to being labeled an "impersonator"
Oh and by the way-- I found out that state dept employees really do double as CIA spies... go figure....
CYA

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: face ()
Date: July 31, 2005 10:36PM

<>

as i said, many CIA officers stationed abroad use their local embassies as "official cover."

but the reverse is not true. yes, some CIA officers may double as State employees. i think i know what you meant, but...anyway, INR and NEA bureaus at State work closely with CIA, Pentagon, and others in the Intel Community, and sometimes they have joint task forces...

anyway, i don't know why i keep defending State, but i guess i'm just sick of people ripping out the same line every time. most of the work State does is very different than what intel and defense do, and is very much our key to success in our current climate.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Chris ()
Date: October 09, 2005 05:17AM

They are federal government POLICE with full police authority in their jurisdiction. The Posse Commitatis act (not sure if it’s spelled correctly) prohibits any Federal agency from enforcing state and local laws, hence you taunting them without being arrested. By law, a security company of any kind cannot wear or drive ANYTHING that has POLICE, TROOPRER, AGENT, or BONDSMEN on it. The dark SUV is Secret Service.

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: TheFuzz ()
Date: February 25, 2014 12:00AM

They are probably police.... Duh!

Dynamite44 Wrote:
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> has anyone seen the white crown victorias in
> McLean that just say POLICE in blue letters on the
> side? they have US Government tags, not the
> typical Virgnia "for official local government use
> only" tags. The cars don't say US Park Police,
> State Trooper, Sheriff, or County or anything,
> just POLICE.
> The cars seem to be P71 cars, with either stamped
> steel rims with cetercaps or P71 chrome hubcaps.
> All the ones that i have seen have the spotlight
> as well.
> These can be seen on major roads in McLean, such
> as route 123 (dolley madison/chain bridge road)
> lewinsville road, and old dominion drive.
> There is only ever one person in each car, wearing
> a dark blue uniform. Because the CIA is based in
> McLean (no, not "Langley", if you really know the
> area, you know that Langley is a section of
> McLean, much like Chesterbrook is), i'm thinking
> that theyre some sort of security for the CIA.
> I've seen the cops blow by me on 123 at all times
> of the day with their lights and sirens on, but
> never pull anyone over.
> Ive seen them pull into the little road where the
> park is on Georgetown Pike, almost where
> Georgetown pike dead ends into chain bridge
> road/route 123. I've been down that road before,
> its actually the back entrance into the CIA, i
> turned around before i got to the gate.
> One interesting point: ive seen them pull into
> Farm Credit Drive off of Lewinsville road (not far
> from the McLean police station which is at the
> intersection of Lewinsville and the end of Balls
> Hill). I know that some of the office buildings
> that were in that development off of farm credit
> drive were demolished last year and rebuilt, its
> something high security no doubt. Anyone else know
> what i'm talking about?
>

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Re: White Police Cars in McLean, They Just Say POLICE On The Side
Posted by: Priapus ()
Date: February 25, 2014 06:21AM

Thanks for the blast from the past.

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