It seems that the unconscionable raw greed that characterized the AIG executives and their behavior is on full display within the FCPS system. On April 2-4, two FCPS administrators are being sent, all expenses paid, to a luxurious beacfront Hotel for a few days of sun and fun. Administrators Eileen Grattan and Dana Scanlon, both supercilious and utterly disdainful of the present economic crisis, will spend those days sailing and tanning, while Fairfax Taxpayers are busy working to pay their salaries. The continued hateful and unrelenting scorn the FCPS system and its malignant Brownshirts(and Grattan and Scanlan are among the worst) odiously direct against its taxpayers truly shocks the conscious. Take a look.



http://www.cepionline.org/law_conference/2009/VCU%20Law%20Conference%202009.pdf

although i like where your head's at because i know first hand Dana Scanlon is a freaking fuck wad but the meeting thing is in Norfolk so it will probably be pretty cold.

Is there any way we the people can blow these ladies Eileen and Dana up in the newspaper? Either the Washington Post, Center-view, or any local news papers.

Are you kidding me?

Excluding and Reassigning Dangerous Students????

These 2 witches have no intention of protecting the general student population. They are about kicking out kids who don't harm a soul.

Some are pot smokers, some might have sprayed graffiti on the walls.

These two hateful wretches just resulted in the death/suicide of a pot smoking kid from South Lakes HS.

Thanks for throwing that kid out of school-goodness knows what he might have done.

These BITCHES are about breaking kids emotionally-nothing more. They are the biggest bullies we have in our school system.

I would dearly love to expose this waste and abuse. The Fairfax taxpayers need to know what little the FCPS system thinks of them.

Time to grab them pitchforks darn tootin'.

This is pretty outrageous. Did you see all the beautiful phootos of sailboats and cruiseliners? Who the phuk d these people think they are kidding? I'm protesting this wasteful insulting extravagence

Luxurious beachfront hotel? You must never have been to Norfolk.

Err, derr, time to, uh, duh, let 'em walk all over us...which way did he go, which way did he go. Darn tootin...

Modest accmodations..you must not have seen the flyer...

The total cost is $1000 for the entire conference for two. Most likely they are driving to the conference since it is only three hours away.

The conference is in Norfork and there are no sailing or beaches in Norfolk. Va Beach is about 30 minutes away and all the tourist shops and beach actvities don't open until after early May.

still there bitches

It would be nice if the original poster had some level of reading comprehension. The conference schedule outlines what will be covered.

So Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumber (Graatan and Scanlan) are going to lecture to people about how wonderful they are....make me laugh,

This department is a joke. They openly discriminate, engage in arbitrary practices, violate student's constitutional rights and don't do a damn thing to make our schools safer.

I would love to attend this conference and listen to these two idiots talk.

It would be nice if that idiot Libby poster had even a child's understanding of seaside "conferences". The conference brochure photgraphs outlines what will be covered (sailing,cruising, dining, etc. etc.)

The total cost is more than $5000 for the entire conference for two. Most likely they are driving, (and charging the expense to Fairfax Taxpayers) to the conference since it is only three hours away.

The conference is in Norfork and there are sailing and beaches in Norfolk. Va Beach is about 30 minutes away and all the tourist shops and beach actvities open in early March.

So how is it that they are getting to do this, when travel has been curtailed across the school system? Hell, yeah, I want someone to look into this.

Calhoun Wrote:
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> It seems that the unconscionable raw greed that
> characterized the AIG executives and their
> behavior is on full display within the FCPS
> system. On April 2-4, two FCPS administrators are
> being sent, all expenses paid, to a luxurious
> beacfront Hotel for a few days of sun and fun.
> Administrators Eileen Grattan and Dana Scanlon,
> both supercilious and utterly disdainful of the
> present economic crisis, will spend those days
> sailing and tanning, while Fairfax Taxpayers are
> busy working to pay their salaries. The continued
> hateful and unrelenting scorn the FCPS system and
> its malignant Brownshirts(and Grattan and Scanlan
> are among the worst) odiously direct against its
> taxpayers truly shocks the conscious. Take a
> look.
>
>
>
> http://www.cepionline.org/law_conference/2009/VCU%
> 20Law%20Conference%202009.pdf


After looking over the conference agenda, I see that the sailing and
"cruise dinner" are extra. That does not mean the taxpayer will fund
that portion. If they choose to do so out of their own pockets, that
is their call. It appears that most of the course work is very substantive
and would appear to be a reasonable seminar to attend.

I have attended many management training conferences during my career
and some have been in more posh surroundings than others. Once, my boss
and I were required to attend a conference at the Indian Lakes Resort
outside of Chicago in early March. Sure, it was luxurious and had three
golf courses and two indoor pools, but I for one do not care to play golf
at all, let alone in a 40 mph wind and snow flying. There was no time for swimming. The material was very intensive and my Division Director was
insistent that we brief all the other managers upon our return as to what
we had learned. We also had to fill out a course evaluation form for our HR department to decide if there was a need to send other managers as well.
We were expected to gain a lot of practical information from these courses and put it to work on the job. There was a requirement that I attend at least
two management seminars and one technical seminar every year. I was also
very careful to choose courses that were relevant and wouldnt be a waste
of my time and the governments money. Quite frankly, I'd rather have been
at home with my wife and kids, but working for the Feds provided me with a
couple of things I've become accustomed to such as eating and living
indoors. BTW, it wasnt hard to notice other managers who were not part of
an ongoing training program. They were the ones who didnt know squat about
managing a staff and getting things done in a constantly changing workplace.
If we failed to do so, there would be Hell to pay career wise.

Almost forgot. I attended a seminar in Norfolk once too but not on
beachfront. It was across from the Naval Air Station and every 5
minutes you had a fighter/bomber flying overhead at treetop level.
The NAS folks were having maneuvers and the noise was 24/7. I changed
rooms three times immediately after checking in because of a cockroach
problem. The third room didnt have any cockroaches, but the air conditioner
didnt work. The hotel bar was closed for renovation and the closest thing
to "entertainment" was a cross-dresser bar next door. If you wanted to
leave, cabfare was out of your own pocket. I got a six-pack and holed
up in my room at night. "Luxury" hotel my ass!

FCPS HAS NO MONEY FOR STUDENTS OR TEACHERS BUT THEY HAVE MONEY FOR:



It seems that the unconscionable raw greed that characterized the AIG executives and their behavior is on full display within the FCPS system. On April 2-4, two FCPS administrators are being sent, all expenses paid, to a luxurious beach front Hotel for a few days of sun and fun. Administrators will spend those days sailing and tanning, while Fairfax Taxpayers are busy working to pay their salaries.


OK Fairfax County – this is your wake-up call…

The proposed FY2010 school budget (54% of the entire county’s budget) is out and it:

1) Increases class sizes

2) Fires teachers and custodians not absorbed by attrition

3) Reduces bus service for magnet students



Now we know where the School Board’s priorities are. Forget that now we can’t even provide transportation to the nation’s #1 high school. Never mind that the Fairfax County average high school class size is 31 and the STATE LAW sets the maximum at 30. Let’s cut where it hurts most -– and leave the bloated school administration alone to protect the Superintendent’s fiefdom. If only we could find that Holy Grail….



For starters, why do we need 470 people in the Division of Instructional Services writing lesson plans that the teachers ignore? Why is a planning period for middle and high school teachers and half day every Monday for Elementary School teachers needed if someone is writing their lesson plans? Many of these positions could be eliminated or forced to return to the classroom.



We have 17 cluster superintendents who earn a six figure salary.



We have 30-34 people in the Department of Accountability studying SOL scores. If we had more teachers, then maybe the SOL scores would take care of themselves.



We have a spin department called Communications and Community Outreach – we would save $2 million a year if this department was eliminated.



Why do we have separate school and county libraries, HR departments, and audits? They claim they are looking into it – so where’s the plan? We could combine the two and introduce obvious efficiencies.



We could reduce the number of assistant principals – we have one assistant principal for every 455 students – Arlington has one for every 567 students. [1]



Superintendent Dale makes $266,292 + $16,000 custodial contribution + $46,000 403(b) contribution + a car or approximately $360K + he gets 26 days vacation a year[2] . The President of the United States makes $400,000 a year. Need I say more… wake up folks.

After looking over the conference agenda, I see that the seminars and
"workshops" are optional. That means that the taxpayer will fund
that portion. If they choose to do so out of taxpayer pockets, that
is too damn bad. It appears that most of the course work is not very substantive
and would appear to be an unreasonable seminar to attend.

I have attended many management training conferences during my career
and some have been in more posh surroundings than others. Once, my boss
and I were required to attend a conference at the South Beach Resort
outside of Miami in early March. Sure, it was luxurious and had three
golf courses and two indoor pools,and I played golf and tanned constantly
and in 85 degrees in was heaven!. All I did was dine, dance, sail and swim; don't even remember what the conference involved. And I didn't pay a damn dime. Loved it!

Almost forgot. I attended a seminar in Norfolk once too and also on
beachfront. It was across from the beach and the weather was perfect.
The NAS folks were having a federally funded party too and the fun was 24/7. I had a room with a view and hosted several parties as the amenities were too many to be listed. The hotel bar was open and drinks were on the taxpayer and for entertainment we had strippers and taxpayer expense. If you wanted to
leave, cabfare to downtown clubs was also on the taxpayer. I chared it all! "Luxury" hotel? Well, it didn't cost me a dime!

Luxury beachfront hotel? In the middle of Norfolk?

You are a moron!

A luxury trip to Norfolk? You guys have got to be kidding me. Who knows if the people going even want to go or if they're going because their boss(es) told them to?

The program seems pretty legitimate.

You FCPS haters should actually find credible things to whine about, because yelling about this non-issue just makes you look pathetic.

A working trip to a Norfolk Beachfront Hotel? You guys have got to be kidding me. Who knows if the people going even want to stay in their dreary offices instead or if they're going because their boss allowed them this little taxpayer funded junket?

The program seems pretty illegitimate.

You FCPS lapdogs should actually find credible things to whine about, because yelling about this non-issue just makes you look pathetic. Really pathetic.

Dreary workshops in a run-down inner-city Richmond conference room? LOL! You're a moron Libby!

Good point Billy. Why aren't they meeting in downtown Richmond? And why is the conference literature filled with glossy photos of sailing and cruising?

Right on Mel. These FCPS toadies are such liars and frauds.

Mel Wrote:
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> Good point Billy. Why aren't they meeting in
> downtown Richmond? And why is the conference
> literature filled with glossy photos of sailing
> and cruising?

It's called conference marketing 101. Sounds to me like you have never been to a conference and do not know what you are talking about.

It's called "taxpayer funded sun and fun" 101. Sounds to me like you have never been to a conference and do not know what you are talking about. Stoopid biatch.

It's nowhere near a beach, it's waterfront property. Not that exciting.

It does seem wasteful given the budget issues though. Over $600 for the two of them to stay there, plus $400 a piece for the conference, mileage, etc. To listen to speakers talk about 'education laws'? They can't read this information elsewhere or after the fact?

Okay I call bullshit on this thread - you present the trip as if it were in Miami beach not Norfolk in friggin April. Personally I would rather stay in DC than drive to Norfolk for 2 days and I bet they would too. There may be merit to your claim that these are not good reps but tdo not establish an utterly bogus premise ('tanning' Christ please) to do it.

you sir are a bullshitter...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2009 09:44AM by dono.

The problem with FCPS board is that they don't get enough input from other sources. This conference is an excellent idea. I also like the workshops offerred.

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Given that these two upstanding FCPS administrators are speaking, might their hotel etc be free? Usually speakers are not expected to pay their own expenses.

Focus on Gatehouse. That is the real criminal activity.

The most offensive thing about this "conference" is the topic.

"excluding dangerous students"....

who are Graatan and Scanlan kidding? The majority of the kids who work their way thru the FCPS Discipline grinder wouldn't hurt a fly!!! They smoke pot, they accidently brought a paintball gun to school in their car trunk, etc. Look at the data, guys.

I am sick and tired of these two boobs telling us parents that they are doing such important work. They eat up $1 million dollars of the budget, doing what??

Reassigning "dangerous" pot-smoking kids to other high schools???

We have been conned by this school district.

If they are speaking then there is a good chance the institution they are associated with will get a "speaker fee" from the conference. Their rooms and expenses will also be covered.

So it looks like the county may actually be making some money off this trip.

Completely agree with you.


missing the point Wrote:
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> The most offensive thing about this "conference"
> is the topic.
>
> "excluding dangerous students"....
>
> who are Graatan and Scanlan kidding? The majority
> of the kids who work their way thru the FCPS
> Discipline grinder wouldn't hurt a fly!!! They
> smoke pot, they accidently brought a paintball gun
> to school in their car trunk, etc. Look at the
> data, guys.
>
> I am sick and tired of these two boobs telling us
> parents that they are doing such important work.
> They eat up $1 million dollars of the budget,
> doing what??
>
> Reassigning "dangerous" pot-smoking kids to other
> high schools???
>
> We have been conned by this school district.

Government employees are normally prohibited from accepting honoraria for speaking engagements or for papers, and I'd be surprised if county employees weren't held to this same standard.


Kilmer Wrote:
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> If they are speaking then there is a good chance
> the institution they are associated with will get
> a "speaker fee" from the conference. Their rooms
> and expenses will also be covered.
>
> So it looks like the county may actually be making
> some money off this trip.

Congratulations to the two FCPS administrators who have been selected to speak at the conference.

Kutie Wrote:
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> Congratulations to the two FCPS administrators who
> have been selected to speak at the conference.


I doubt Graatan and Scanlan's professional competence had anything to do with the selection.

FCPS is the 800 lb gorilla DA. They are the largest school district in VA and the 12th largest in the US.

These two are nothing for us to be proud of.

Kutie-do continue to contribute your mindnumbing, shallow posts though so we can make fun of you.

Kutie is a deep thinker Wrote:
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> Kutie Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Congratulations to the two FCPS administrators
> who
> > have been selected to speak at the conference.
>
>
> I doubt Graatan and Scanlan's professional
> competence had anything to do with the selection.
>
> FCPS is the 800 lb gorilla DA. They are the
> largest school district in VA and the 12th largest
> in the US.
>
> These two are nothing for us to be proud of.
>
> Kutie-do continue to contribute your mindnumbing,
> shallow posts though so we can make fun of you.

Sounds like you have some mental issues.

Marmaduke Wrote:
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> After looking over the conference agenda, I see
> that the seminars and
> "workshops" are optional. That means that the
> taxpayer will fund
> that portion. If they choose to do so out of
> taxpayer pockets, that
> is too damn bad. It appears that most of the
> course work is not very substantive
> and would appear to be an unreasonable seminar to
> attend.
>
> I have attended many management training
> conferences during my career
> and some have been in more posh surroundings than
> others. Once, my boss
> and I were required to attend a conference at the
> South Beach Resort
> outside of Miami in early March. Sure, it was
> luxurious and had three
> golf courses and two indoor pools,and I played
> golf and tanned constantly
> and in 85 degrees in was heaven!. All I did was
> dine, dance, sail and swim; don't even remember
> what the conference involved. And I didn't pay a
> damn dime. Loved it!


This is the sort of drivel that unfortunately, some people actually believe.
From the sound of this, you were a major rip-off to the taxpayer and have
a "Marion Barry" mentality. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let Go Here Wrote:
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> Almost forgot. I attended a seminar in Norfolk
> once too and also on
> beachfront. It was across from the beach and the
> weather was perfect.
> The NAS folks were having a federally funded party
> too and the fun was 24/7. I had a room with a view
> and hosted several parties as the amenities were
> too many to be listed. The hotel bar was open and
> drinks were on the taxpayer and for entertainment
> we had strippers and taxpayer expense. If you
> wanted to
> leave, cabfare to downtown clubs was also on the
> taxpayer. I chared it all! "Luxury" hotel? Well,
> it didn't cost me a dime!


I'm sure your boss was proud of you. Sounds like you must have been part
of the Clinton administration.

dono Wrote:
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> Okay I call bullshit on this thread - you present
> the trip as if it were in Miami beach not Norfolk
> in friggin April. Personally I would rather stay
> in DC than drive to Norfolk for 2 days and I bet
> they would too. There may be merit to your claim
> that these are not good reps but tdo not establish
> an utterly bogus premise ('tanning' Christ please)
> to do it.
>
> you sir are a bullshitter...

Well said. I always get a charge out of the inexperienced who mistakenly
think these types of seminars are a mini-vacation. I once went to a seminar
in Boca Raton, certainly the lap of luxury for residents, but on a govt.
per-diem, there was not one restaurant in the city that I could afford.
Meals were provided by the hotel so we were stuck. Cold cuts and fried
chicken. Yum... This was a very intensive seminar on PBX/Switch matrix
design technology and the instructors had us in class from 8 a.m. until
5:30 p.m. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner was served in the classroom and
we were back to work from 7 p.m. until 9. After three days of this I was
ready to scream. BTW, I didnt see much of Boca except from the airport
shuttle. Meanwhile, back in the office, my work was piling up so I could
spend the weekend catching up and it wouldnt be waiting for me on Monday
morning. I was also required to provide the traning I had just received
to my staff and brief the brass. Some perk. BS'rs havent a clue.

Mel Wrote:
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> Good point Billy. Why aren't they meeting in
> downtown Richmond? And why is the conference
> literature filled with glossy photos of sailing
> and cruising?

This is the type of person who is disappointed when they open up a box of Lucky Charms because there is no leprechaun inside.

Lep Wrote:

"This is the type of person who is disappointed when they open up a box of Lucky Charms because there is no leprechaun"

This is the type oof person who is an ignorant jackass.

dnoo is a complete bullshitter

Just an example here. If I hadnt retired, I'd be attending this one whether
I liked it or not. Notice the breakfast, breaks, and lunches are "sponsored"
by the vendors themselves. This means you get free sodas, fruit, or Danish
while listening to a rather intensive sales pitch. Fun huh? But wait, its
in Orlando and you might even get a room with a view so you can actually see
some of it. Be ready to fill out a detailed expense report (including all
receipts) when you get back.

http://www.voicecon.com/orlando/program/program.php

Indeed. I always get a charge out of the inexperienced who mistakenly
think these types of seminars are not mini-vacations. I once went to a seminar
in Boca Raton, certainly the lap of luxury for residents,and on a govt.
per-diem, there were dozens of restaurants in the city that I could afford.
Meals were provided by the hotel so we were ate there free too. Cold cuts and fried chicken. Yum... This was a very relaxing seminar on basket weaving and the instructors had us in class from 11 a.m. until 2:30 p.m. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner was served on the balcomy overlooking the oocean and we were back not to work from until 11:00 next morning. After three days of this I was fully relaxed and ready for more. BTW,I even had a trip t Disney and all on taxpayer money. Meanwhile, back in the office, no work was piling up so I could spend the weekend golfing when I returned. I was also I was not even required to provide the traning I had just received to my staff and brief the brass. Some perk. BS'rs havent a clue. Just brainless idjits.

Let Go Here Wrote:
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> Indeed. I always get a charge out of the
> inexperienced who mistakenly
> think these types of seminars are not
> mini-vacations. I once went to a seminar
> in Boca Raton, certainly the lap of luxury for
> residents,and on a govt.
> per-diem, there were dozens of restaurants in the
> city that I could afford.
> Meals were provided by the hotel so we were ate
> there free too. Cold cuts and fried chicken.
> Yum... This was a very relaxing seminar on basket
> weaving and the instructors had us in class from
> 11 a.m. until 2:30 p.m. Breakfast, lunch, and
> dinner was served on the balcomy overlooking the
> oocean and we were back not to work from until
> 11:00 next morning. After three days of this I was
> fully relaxed and ready for more. BTW,I even had a
> trip t Disney and all on taxpayer money.
> Meanwhile, back in the office, no work was piling
> up so I could spend the weekend golfing when I
> returned. I was also I was not even required to
> provide the traning I had just received to my
> staff and brief the brass. Some perk. BS'rs havent
> a clue. Just brainless idjits.


I can tell you must have a very interesting career.

I can't believe you are complaining about $1,000 for two people to attend a conference. The last conference I attended was in San Diego and my hotel bill alone was almost twice that (even with the conference discount).

Genevieve Wrote:
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> I can't believe you are complaining about $1,000
> for two people to attend a conference. The last
> conference I attended was in San Diego and my
> hotel bill alone was almost twice that (even with
> the conference discount).

This sort of mentality isnt unusual and I've encountered it many times
before. Most likely this poster is in a dead end job that barely requires
a GED or unemployed due to a lack of ambition. He shouldnt worry though.
Burger King is always looking for staff and English is a plus.

That's it, you assholes. I now give my full support to Gatehouse II. I will be writing my supervisor daily to express my newfound feelings.

My last conference was $6500 for the conference and classes. Hotel was $310 a night, airfare and rental car was $1500. Aorund $10,000 just for me.

$900 for two people for two days, I don't know if that really qualifies as a conference.

Just an example here. If I hadnt retired, I'd be attending this one because it was a free taxpayer mini-vacation.Notice the breakfast, breaks, and lunches are "sponsored" by the taxpayers by the taxpayer paid registration fee. This means you get free sodas, fruit, or Danish for free. Fun huh? But wait, its in Virginia Beach so all that sailing you see in the brochures is free too.

That's it, you assholes. I now give my full oppsition to Gatehouse II. I will be writing my supervisor daily to express my newfound feelings.

Dude most all conferences offer free sodas, danish etc... As for sailing and the beach, nothing is open this time of year. VA Beach is a ghost town.

Hold On Here had a very dull career.

Duuude, I mean like wow man, knarly. And Va beach rocks this time f year. Dude, man. Wow. Like Reefer, duuude.

Typical. These two greedy, grasping, useless FCPS functionaries shamelessly slurping at the public trough like sloppy pigs.

Why do I get the feeling we are talking with some soccer mom who has never worked and thinks someone traveling on business is taking a vacation.

It's in Norfolk, not VA Beach. About 18 miles away. And the weather averages in the 60's in April with the water temps in the 50's. Not terribly comfortable for most people.

I thought they cut all the conferences and seminars in the budget? Or was that just for the teachers?

Why do I get the feeling that Libby is some unlettered troglyditic soccer mom who has never worked and thinks someone traveling on business is taking a vacation.

Yeah, sailing requires water tempature in the hih 90's. Pffffft....

Let Go Here Wrote:
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> Hold On Here had a very dull career.


Shut up and give me a Bacon Double Cheeseburger and a Large Sprite!
Make it snappy or I'll fill out one of those Customer Service
Satisfaction forms.

Hold On Here wroote:

"Shut up and give me a Bacon Double Cheeseburger and a Large Sprite!
Make it snappy or I'll fill out one of those Customer Service
Satisfaction forms."

Shut up, you drooolin dolt, and give me a Bacon Double Cheeseburger and a Large Sprite! Make it snappy or I'll fill out one of those Customer Service
Satisfaction forms. Idiot.

Apparently many have not been to Norfolk. Norfolk is Virginia's Baltimore.

Apparently many have not been to the Norfolk Waterfront. Just take a look at the beautiful photos in the conference literature. Yeah, a real dump. LoL.

OLL Wrote:
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> Apparently many have not been to the Norfolk
> Waterfront. Just take a look at the beautiful
> photos in the conference literature. Yeah, a real
> dump. LoL.

WOW! You're a sucker for slick photos. Hey want to buy a house or car. I'll post some pictures you can buy from.

The Norfolk Waterfront is about two blocks long and has Town Point park on the end. The park is maybe a block long. The rest of the Norfolk is just like downtown Baltimore.

As I said there may be merit to opposing the cost of the conference but to say

"Administrators Eileen Grattan and Dana Scanlon, both supercilious and utterly disdainful of the present economic crisis, will spend those days sailing and tanning, while Fairfax Taxpayers are busy working to pay their salaries."

is disingenuous. Sailing and tanning (in the beginning of April in Norfolk)- come on. To the trolls; is it possible to sail in April in Norfolk? - of course it is but the combination of wind (sailing right) and temps topping out at 60 degrees F is not very comfortable. Can you tan in Norfolk in April? I am sure you can again though laying out on the beach in 60 degree F weather with exposed skin - no my idea of fun unless it is on a ski slope out West.

Trolls bring your knife and fork and dig in I just filled your pathetic trough.

There seems to be some degree of personal animosity directed against the two FCPS employees, an issue to which I cannot speak. At the same time, a review of the guest speakers and presentors includes many accomplished proofessionals: University Proofessors, Doctors, and Lawyers. The presence of the two Fairfax Administrators does indeed seem woefully out of place, This fact lends considerable credibility to the claim that this is merely a well-disguised and expensive taxpayer supported vacation.

The Alexandria Waterfront looks bigger than the one in Norfolk.

I'm sure the hotel is nice, but it's pretty laughable to imply that folks are getting some extravagant, Club Med type of experience in friggin Norfolk.

I agree with some of the others here: business travel for conferences is generally a pain in the ass, and not vacation-like at all, regardless of the location.

As I said there is merit to opposing the cost of the conference but to oppose the notiin that:

"Administrators Eileen Grattan and Dana Scanlon, both supercilious and utterly disdainful of the present economic crisis, will spend those days sailing and tanning, while Fairfax Taxpayers are busy working to pay their salaries."

is entirely disingenuous. Sailing and tanning (in the beginning of April in Norfolk)- absolutely. To the trolls like dono; is it possible to sail in April in Norfolk? - of course it is but the combination of wind (sailing right) and temps topping out at 75 degrees F is extremely comfortable. Can you tan in Norfolk in April? I am sure you can again though laying out on the beach in 75 degree F weather with exposed skin - with a cabana it is perfect weather to tan and lounge on the beach.

nod Trolls bring your knife and fork and dig in I just filled your sad, empty, pathetic trough. And right in dono's ugly face to boot. Hehehe....

The Alexandria Waterfront looks much smaller than the one in Norfolk.

I'm sure the hotel is nice, and it's pretty laughable to deny that folks are getting some extravagant, Club Med type of experience on the Norfolk Waterfront.

I agree with some of the others here: business travel for conferences is generally a taxpayer funded romp, and very much vacation-like,Especially considering the sun-soaked location.

I do wonder why the conference brochure doesn't show fatigued, overworked, underfed, attendees in a dreary, stale conference room? It's the darndest thing, but all the photos present fine dining, sailing, crusining, bright blue skies and beautiful accomodations.. Very odd...

LOL wrote:

"WOW! You're a sucker for slick photos. Hey want to buy a house or car. I'll post some pictures you can buy from.

The Norfolk Waterfront is about two blocks long and has Town Point park on the end. The park is maybe a block long. The rest of the Norfolk is just like downtown Baltimore."
To which I reply:


WOW! You're a sucker for slick photos. Hey want to buy a house or car, moron? I'll post some pictures you can buy from. Retard.

The Norfolk Waterfront is about four blocks long and has Town Point park on the end. The park is maybe tw more blocks long. The rest of the Norfolk is sailing and dining, and cruises.

Who the hell would be enticed to attend a conference if the brochure showed a bunch of monotonous, unpleasant pictures?

Do you understand advertising?




Wert Wrote:
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> I do wonder why the conference brochure doesn't
> show fatigued, overworked, underfed, attendees in
> a dreary, stale conference room? It's the darndest
> thing, but all the photos present fine dining,
> sailing, crusining, bright blue skies and
> beautiful accomodations.. Very odd...

So, evidently, the conference sponsors are perpetrating a fraud aainst Fairfax County and its taxpayers by falsely describing the conference enviroment?

Meeper, do you understand fraud?

Hey LOL, are all the FCPS employees suckers for glossy photos? LOL

Who left the door open at the nut house?

Anyone want to take bets that this loon who has been online complaining all day long during working hours is most likely at work himself, on his employers dime and computer? Probably hasn't gotten a thing done all day.

Wert Wrote:
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> Meeper, do you understand fraud?


If you got such a major bug up your ass about this "fraud", contact the state Attorney General's office. Make sure you record the call so we can hear them laugh at you.


Is it a fuckin' full moon tonight???



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Who left the door open at the nut house?

Anyone want to take bets that this foaming at the mouth lunatic who has been online complaining about people using computers during working hours is most likely at work himself, on his employers dime and computer? Probably hasn't gotten a thing done all day. Stupid loser

Wert Wrote:
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> So, evidently, the conference sponsors are
> perpetrating a fraud aainst Fairfax County and its
> taxpayers by falsely describing the conference
> enviroment?

One can only imagine how excited this person must be after watching late night night info commercials. "Honey grab the VISA card quick we HAVE to order this!"

TheMeeper wrote:

"If you got such a major bug up your ass about this "fraud", contact the state Attorney General's office. Make sure you record the call so we can hear them laugh at you."


"Is it a fuckin' full moon tonight???"

Holy hay-zoos, this guy is a freakin nutjob. *Points and laughs at TheMeeper*.





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One can only imagine how excited this Jester person must be after watching late night night info commercials. "Honey grab the VISA card quick we HAVE to order this!"


ROFL!!

How adult to repeat back what others are posting- I know you are but what am I!

waaa, waa, waa, boo-hoo, he's moocking and ridiculing by repeating my empty meaninless posts...thumb sukking, bed-wetter...

Stejer Wrote:
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> One can only imagine how excited this Jester
> person must be after watching late night night
> info commercials. "Honey grab the VISA card quick
> we HAVE to order this!"
>
>
> ROFL!!

This one isnt old enough to have a VISA card and his Mommy wont let
him stay up past 10PM on a school night.

Wert Wrote:
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> I do wonder why the conference brochure doesn't
> show fatigued, overworked, underfed, attendees in
> a dreary, stale conference room? It's the darndest
> thing, but all the photos present fine dining,
> sailing, crusining, bright blue skies and
> beautiful accomodations.. Very odd...


Too funny, Wert.

Look, Grattan and Scanlan have the intellectual capacity of a potted plant. Any meaningful, thought provoking discussions at this conference will be lost on these two halfwits.

I hope Grattan mentions at the conference how her office abuses FCPS students in the disciplinary process and recently led to the suicide of the South lakes student. That should bring the house down.

I also hope she boasts about how FCPS punishes kids in the high minority schools at a rate of 3-5 times higher than our predominantly White schools.

Scanlan should discuss how little she knows about FERPA and share with the group how she refused to provide the notes taken at the administrative hearing to the parents of a student. She of course obliged, once she was threatened with a Dept of Education complaint.

Based on the speaker's list-these two bozos should make FCPS look pretty bad.

They and other school systems have to go to conferences like this because of all the nut job parents around. The parents in this community get upset when little Johnny gets disiplined for smoking pot and doing herion in school.

"This one isnt old enough to have a VISA card and his Mommy wont let
him stay up past 10PM on a school night."

Retired, right Hold On Here? Then shut up, you toothless, shuffling, drooling, doddering irrelevant old fool.

These two flunkie discpline administrators and other school systems have to go to conferences like this because of all the nut job teachers around. The teachers in this community get upset when little Miss Peggy the History Teacher gets disiplined for smoking pot and milesting her students in school.

Bookmark this thread. I think it will win the 2009 award for most persistent trolling.

voice of reason Wrote:
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> I also hope she boasts about how FCPS punishes
> kids in the high minority schools at a rate of 3-5
> times higher than our predominantly White
> schools.

Well no shit Sherlock! Take a look at the arrest/ticket search and you will
also find a great disparity in numbers. Why are Whites a minority in
the jail? Its because minorities are committing most of the crimes.

Uh-oh, East sider is trolling again...

Attaboy Hold On Here! Now tell us that negroes like watermelon and have loower IQ's than whites. Hey pal, the KKK meeting is in the next room...

Hahaha.... this nigga whoever he is- who is flipping what all these stuck up strict people say into the exact opposite is really hilarious.. he's been at it all day and i just gotta be the first to say big big props

He does seem to reduce these hypocritical blowhards to little more that sputtering fools...kinda funny

Let od Here Wrote:
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> Attaboy Hold On Here! Now tell us that negroes
> like watermelon and have loower IQ's than whites.
> Hey pal, the KKK meeting is in the next room...

Here's a seminar just for you.

Huh?What? Wrote:
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> Let od Here Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Attaboy Hold On Here! Now tell us that negroes
> > like watermelon and have loower IQ's than
> whites.
> > Hey pal, the KKK meeting is in the next room...
>
> Here's a seminar just for you.

Try that again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-eitsutpOc