Here is a questions for the Legal Eagles on this site. I would appreciate realistic responses and not banter. Thanks.

Did NOVA or DC ever have photo radar (fixed or mobile) and if so, why was it removed?

Was the system flawed?

As far as I am aware, Virginia never had photo rader. They did have photo red light cameras, but the legislation which allowed them, which was passed in 1995, had a 10-year sunset provision and it was not renewed so as of July 1, 2005, the red light cameras were deactivated.

(The cameras you may see on some traffic signals, particularly in the cities of Manassas and Manassas Park, are not photo red cameras, they are cameras used to detect vehicles so that the traffic signal can give the appropriate amount of green time based on demand).

One of the things about Virginia is that it is a Dillon Rule state which means that localities (cities and counties) cannot use red light/photo radar cameras unless the state legislature passes a law allowing it.

I don't know about DC.

DC has photo radar all over the city, judging by the tickets I have received in the mail. You can find maps of the locations via a google search for dc photo radar.

The system never existed in VA (not for radar), but is going strong in our stunted neighbor to the east.

Here's a link to the DC Photo Radar map:

http://mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/cwp/view,a,1240,q,548201,mpdcNav_GID,1552,mpdcNav,%7C31886%7C.asp

Photoblocker FTW!

http://www.photoblocker.com



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/21/2006 08:44PM by ffxmotorist.

ffxmotorist Wrote:
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> Photoblocker FTW!
>
> http://www.photoblocker.com


the only downside is that you become a perfect target when it comes to LADAR. i guess if you are in DC a lot, it's worth it.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

Now I know there are redlight cams in VA, There is one at Old Mill Rd/Rt 29, Popes Head/FFX Pkwy. And I know there are some tickets from that.

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Now I know there are redlight cams in VA, There is
> one at Old Mill Rd/Rt 29, Popes Head/FFX Pkwy. And
> I know there are some tickets from that.


...since July 1st of 2005, no red light tickets could be issued in the Commonwealth of Virginia, period.

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Photo Red Light Program Expired
The enabling state legislation for photo red light monitoring expired June 30, 2005. Acordingly, Fairfax County will no longer use cameras to monitor red light violations.

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WTOP, By LARRY O'DELL Associated Press Writer

RICHMOND, Va. - Pilot programs that use cameras to catch red light runners in several Virginia localities will end July 1 unless supporters of the technology can find a way to reverse action taken Friday by a legislative committee.

The House Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee, which is dominated by conservative Republicans, rejected several bills to keep the pilot programs alive after their scheduled expiration date.

They still haven't physically removed the red light cameras, at least not the one at 28 and Greenwood Drive (I think--the intersection south of New Braddock Road).

No, they probably will not remove them anytime soon, but it doesn't matter. I run the one at FFX Parkway and Pope's Head all the time late at night, and it never has flashed once. Is a turned-off camera not just as good as a removed one?

RESton Peace Wrote:
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> No, they probably will not remove them anytime
> soon, but it doesn't matter. I run the one at FFX
> Parkway and Pope's Head all the time late at
> night, and it never has flashed once. Is a
> turned-off camera not just as good as a removed
> one?

the problem is that they have not addressed the major issue in which they were discontinued: car accidents. as long as people think they are active cameras, there are going to be the same high rearending rate. talk about stupid. what i want to know is if one is partially/badly damaged, will they fix/replace it or remove it.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

The best way to go is for someone on the board to sacrifice a car for the team and just run one down, destroy it, and see what happens.

I nominate Gravis.

Why sacrifice a car? Just get a Sawz-All with the right blade and cut it down...

Naw, then it'll be obvious. Anyone have a long chain or wire rope and a truck? Put chain around. pull it down. cart it off.

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Naw, then it'll be obvious.

obvious or not, would they replace it? you dont have to get rid of it, just damage it to the point of needing a full replacement.


"the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish."

the camera's are turned off, a friend from work lives down the street from a guy who was in charge of pulling the films and they turned em off and he lost his job i believe .

Whoops, must have been drunk while I was typing that. See, if it was obviously cut down, they might replace it. But if it looks like someone crashed into it, then they'll think it was an accident. Shouldnt have said cart it off. Just pull it down and run. Skid just before it so it looks like you crashed, and chuck a couple glasses on the ground for effect.

KeepOnTruckin Wrote:
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> Now I know there are redlight cams in VA, There is
> one at Old Mill Rd/Rt 29, Popes Head/FFX Pkwy. And
> I know there are some tickets from that.


more cameras more money