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Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Future Vienna Resident ()
Date: October 10, 2014 12:36PM

There's been quite a few threads and many posts lately about Vienna, VA. Some are strong boosters and others are detractors. I'm kind of confused and having been there only once can't form a strong opinion on it.

I was thinking of moving there but now am not sure.

Is it really better than the rest of the county and in what ways?

Serious answers only please.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: kisses ()
Date: October 10, 2014 12:38PM

if you are an asswipe, move there.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 12:43PM

Well, I live there, the most important man in Fairfax County. So yes you goober asshole, Vienna is the best place to be.


YOUR PROBABLY TOO POOR TO AFFORD VIENNA ANWAYS, GOOBER!




WAIT SHOULDNT YOU BE IN YOUR HOMEROOM CLASS NOW??! FUCK TARD

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Asshole Report #14-0071 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 12:44PM

YOU'RE* DAMN TEABAGGERS

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Future Vienna Resident ()
Date: October 10, 2014 01:40PM

Not sure these answers help much.

kisses, are you implying that only asswipes live in Vienna? Why?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: October 10, 2014 01:57PM

Lots of stuff for the kids to do.
Good schools.
Top knotch police force.
Great Mayor and Great city services.
Nice parks. Good home values.
Lots of cock starved milfs.
Low crime.
The house wives are always on the prowel for schlong.
So yes great place to live.
Nip

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: 22180 resident ()
Date: October 10, 2014 06:19PM

NippleChuck Wrote:
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> Lots of stuff for the kids to do.
> Good schools.
> Top knotch police force.
> Great Mayor and Great city services.
> Nice parks. Good home values.
> Lots of cock starved milfs.
> Low crime.
> The house wives are always on the prowel for
> schlong.
> So yes great place to live.
> Nip

There is not one documented case of a Vienna housewife having an affair.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Priapus ()
Date: October 10, 2014 06:35PM

I haven't been there since the movie theater closed.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 10, 2014 07:34PM

Future Vienna Resident Wrote:
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> Serious answers only please.

Most of the posters here -- including ALL of the assholes -- are incapable of a serious response to any question at all.

What makes Vienna different is that it is an actual town with an actual local government. That means local taxes, but also local services, and it puts government within easy reach of the people. Town government has taken a serious approach to preserving an old-time small-town feel within Vienna. There are many cul-de-sacs and few through streets. There are no car dealerships. No free-standing fast food joint has been built in decades. There are multiple town celebrations, festivals, fairs, and parades during the year -- the kind that draw tens of thousands of people. There are many town parks and playgrounds. There is a large and active community center and municipal sports for almost everyone. Vienna has all the county-level rersources of any place else, but all that local activity makes you feel like you live in an actual place, a place with an actual identity. Proximity to dining, shopping, transportation, and entertainment also matter, but it's the local government spin that adds that extra level to Vienna.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Priapus ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:38PM

And you can't swing a cat without hittng a massage parlor on Maple Ave



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2014 07:39PM by Priapus.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 10, 2014 07:39PM

Priapus Wrote:
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> I haven't been there since the movie theater closed.

It's been gone for longer than it existed.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 10, 2014 07:40PM

Priapus Wrote:
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> And you can't swing a cat without hittng a massage
> parlor on Maple Ave

^^^
There's one of the assholes.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: historic vienna ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:43PM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> Future Vienna Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Serious answers only please.
>
> Most of the posters here -- including ALL of the
> assholes -- are incapable of a serious response to
> any question at all.
>
> What makes Vienna different is that it is an
> actual town with an actual local government. That
> means local taxes, but also local services, and it
> puts government within easy reach of the people.
> Town government has taken a serious approach to
> preserving an old-time small-town feel within
> Vienna. There are many cul-de-sacs and few
> through streets. There are no car dealerships.
> No free-standing fast food joint has been built in
> decades. There are multiple town celebrations,
> festivals, fairs, and parades during the year --
> the kind that draw tens of thousands of people.
> There are many town parks and playgrounds. There
> is a large and active community center and
> municipal sports for almost everyone. Vienna has
> all the county-level rersources of any place else,
> but all that local activity makes you feel like
> you live in an actual place, a place with an
> actual identity. Proximity to dining, shopping,
> transportation, and entertainment also matter, but
> it's the local government spin that adds that
> extra level to Vienna.

Laurie, isn't it time for your 7:30 feeding?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Flint Hillian ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:46PM

Oakton > Vienna

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: long dong silver ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:49PM

Flint Hillian Wrote:
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> Oakton > Vienna

Oakton Cougars vs. Vienna Virgins?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Swinks Millian ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:49PM

Flint Hillian Wrote:
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> Oakton > Vienna


McLean > Oakton

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Date: October 10, 2014 07:53PM


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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Oh Dear... ()
Date: October 10, 2014 07:59PM

Flint Hillian Wrote:
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> Oakton > Vienna

Oakton is just like Vienna with all the neat stuff taken away. Best restaurant in Oakton is what...Famous Dave's? LOL!

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: sertatude ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:18PM

Oh Dear... Wrote:
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> Flint Hillian Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oakton > Vienna
>
> Oakton is just like Vienna with all the neat stuff
> taken away.

You are correct. Oakton has no mattress stores.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 10, 2014 08:30PM

sertatude Wrote:
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> You are correct. Oakton has no mattress stores.

^^^
There's another one of the assholes. There are several of this type. They have a variant of Tourette Syndrome that causes them to blurt out "mattress" every time the Town of Vienna is mentioned. There doesn't seem to be a cure yet, but these people fortunately don't say anything else worth hearing either, so until there IS a cure, we can pretty much just ignore them completely.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: U2 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:40PM

Where are you guys seeing milfs in Vienna?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Of course ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:43PM

U2 Wrote:
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> Where are you guys seeing milfs in Vienna?


Mattress store.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 10, 2014 08:46PM

Of course Wrote:
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> Mattress store.

^^^
Another sufferer. Do you think Jerry Lewis is too old to start a new telethon? This is all just so heart-breaking.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: oakton crushes Vienna ()
Date: October 11, 2014 06:43AM

Here are estimates of median incomes in Oakton and Vienna from Wikipedia:

In 2010, the median income for a household in Oakton (census-designated place) was $167,512, and the median income for a family was $188,308.

As of 2009, the median income for a household in the town of Vienna was $113,817, and the median income for a family was $124,895.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: 22180 resident ()
Date: October 11, 2014 07:38AM

oakton crushes Vienna Wrote:
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> Here are estimates of median incomes in Oakton and
> Vienna from Wikipedia:
>
> In 2010, the median income for a household in
> Oakton (census-designated place) was $167,512, and
> the median income for a family was $188,308.
>
> As of 2009, the median income for a household in
> the town of Vienna was $113,817, and the median
> income for a family was $124,895.

It is the people themselves who make Vienna great, not their income or wealth.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 10:04AM

oakton crushes Vienna Wrote:
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> Here are estimates of median incomes in Oakton and
> Vienna from Wikipedia:

Since you are a wiki-fan...

"In August 2013, CNN/Money and Money magazine ranked Vienna, VA third on its list of the 100 best places to live in the United States. In addition to highly ranked public schools, its assets include a downtown with many small businesses, a Washington Metro station with large parking garages (the western terminus of the Orange Line) just south of the town, and a portion of the Washington & Old Dominion Railroad Regional Park hiker/biker trail cutting through the center of the town. Tysons Corner a residential and shopping district is nearby, as is Wolf Trap National Park for the Performing Arts."

Oakton has Famous Dave's. LOL!

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Let's eat... ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:34AM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> Oakton has Famous Dave's. LOL!

I ate at Famous Dave's. Once.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:51AM

anonymous liberal Wrote:
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> Future Vienna Resident Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Serious answers only please.
>
> Most of the posters here -- including ALL of the
> assholes -- are incapable of a serious response to
> any question at all.
>
> What makes Vienna different is that it is an
> actual town with an actual local government. That
> means local taxes, but also local services, and it
> puts government within easy reach of the people.
> Town government has taken a serious approach to
> preserving an old-time small-town feel within
> Vienna. There are many cul-de-sacs and few
> through streets. There are no car dealerships.
> No free-standing fast food joint has been built in
> decades. There are multiple town celebrations,
> festivals, fairs, and parades during the year --
> the kind that draw tens of thousands of people.
> There are many town parks and playgrounds. There
> is a large and active community center and
> municipal sports for almost everyone. Vienna has
> all the county-level rersources of any place else,
> but all that local activity makes you feel like
> you live in an actual place, a place with an
> actual identity. Proximity to dining, shopping,
> transportation, and entertainment also matter, but
> it's the local government spin that adds that
> extra level to Vienna.

Hey Anon Lib thats exactly what I was saying. Well that and that your hot milf wife is probably on the prowel for schlong. Vienna has ALL the features that make suburban living tops!


Oh and Resident 22180 check your wifes panties when you get home from work ;0)

Best to all my Vienna Neighbors...
Nip

Nip



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/11/2014 10:52AM by NippleChuck.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Honest Guy 7381 ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:58AM

Vienna was the place to be in 1984 before and most if the shops were honest mom and pop types. Now it is standstill traffic, some good shops still but not worth the daily hassle of traffic. Better get stock in the Paypass as you will be a slave to the toll road as 66 is garbage 24/7....ans yes I can afford too live there son.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: 100,000 Mile Club ()
Date: October 11, 2014 11:05AM

Let's eat... Wrote:
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> I ate at Famous Dave's. Once.

Understandable. Oakton is really a Vienna suburb. Otherwise, it's sort of a fly-over town. The only time anybody goes there is when they're on the way to someplace else.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: there you are here i am ()
Date: October 11, 2014 11:46AM

Milfs getting flu shots at Wegmans

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Al Czervik ()
Date: October 11, 2014 11:51AM

The golf course takes up a big chunk of Vienna. What a waste of real estate.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Checklist... ()
Date: October 11, 2014 12:43PM

So, Wegman's and an 18-hole championship golf course --that's two more things that Oakton doesn't have. Oakton does have a Giant, a CVS, and Famous Dave's. LOL!

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 12:48PM

NippleChuck Wrote:
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> Hey Anon Lib thats exactly what I was saying. Well
> that and that your hot milf wife is probably on
> the prowel for schlong.

That's "prowl", moron. And to think you edited your post and STILL didn't catch it. The stupid just keeps on coming once Chuckie-poo is on-line. Such a dumbass.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:08PM

Fuck you Anon. I'm a product of FCPS so my spelling is lacking and it's not my fault. If I were you I'd spend a little time today going through the hamper checking on your old lady instead of checking my spelling and grammer.Fucknutz
Nip

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 01:17PM

Honest Guy 7381 Wrote:
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> Vienna was the place to be in 1984 before and most
> if the shops were honest mom and pop types. Now it
> is standstill traffic, some good shops still but
> not worth the daily hassle of traffic. Better get
> stock in the Paypass as you will be a slave to the
> toll road as 66 is garbage 24/7....ans yes I can
> afford too live there son.

What remarkable thing happened in 1984? Whole Foods was Lowe's. Noodles & Company was Southern States. The bike shop was the movie theater. Walgreen's was Safeway. Magruder's was still Magruder's. Fresh Market was Minnesota Fabrics. Anita's was where the Maple Avenue Restaurant is now. Taco Bell was the donut shop. Animal Scan was a dry cleaners. The Amphora was open 24/7. 66 was open inside the Beltway, but still no trains at the Metro station. In other words, the town was not much different from what it is today.

By the way, EZ-Pass and PayPal are not the same thing. Dumbass.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 01:22PM

100,000 Mile Club Wrote:
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> Oakton is really a Vienna suburb. Otherwise, it's sort
> of a fly-over town. The only time anybody goes there
> is when they're on the way to someplace else.

That's a very good way to put it. There just aren't any "desination" locations in Oakton at all.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Outsiders ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:27PM

NippleChuck Wrote:
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> Fuck you Anon. I'm a product of FCPS so my
> spelling is lacking and it's not my fault. If I
> were you I'd spend a little time today going
> through the hamper checking on your old lady
> instead of checking my spelling and
> grammer.Fucknutz
> Nip


That would be grammar.

And you're both NoVA assholes.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 01:34PM

Al Czervik Wrote:
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> The golf course takes up a big chunk of Vienna.
> What a waste of real estate.

157 acres. Beautiful golf course -- par 71 and over 7,000 yards from the blue tees. Ten tennis courts -- six adapted for year-round play. Olympic-sized swimming pool -- heated in the Spring and Fall. Clubhouse with full fitness center. Three restaurants plus a dining terrace overlooking the golf course. Members only, I'm afraid. Are there no golf courses where you live?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 01:37PM

NippleChuck Wrote:
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> Fuck you Anon. I'm a product of FCPS so my
> spelling is lacking and it's not my fault.

Yes, it is. You're a worthless moron. FCPS has nothing to do with it.

> If I were you I'd spend a little time today going
> through the hamper checking on your old lady
> instead of checking my spelling and grammer.

That's GRAMMAR, you mindless douchebag.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 01:39PM

Outsiders Wrote:
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> NippleChuck Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Fuck you Anon. I'm a product of FCPS so my
> > spelling is lacking and it's not my fault. If I
> > were you I'd spend a little time today going
> > through the hamper checking on your old lady
> > instead of checking my spelling and
> > grammer.Fucknutz
> > Nip
>
>
> That would be grammar.

See that, Chuckie-poo? Even other assholes laugh at what an asshole you are!

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: NippleChuck ()
Date: October 11, 2014 02:01PM

Who the fuck is Chuckie-poo. Hold on let me spell check...

Nip

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Date: October 11, 2014 02:19PM

NippleChuck Wrote:
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> Who the fuck is Chuckie-poo. Hold on let me spell
> check...

That would be you, you stupid fucktard. Can't you do ANYTHING right?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: beltway ()
Date: October 11, 2014 02:53PM

Vienna is a wannabe city. Much of what they have to offer can be found closer in to DC. If that is all you can afford though, it's a decent compromise.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Graham C. ()
Date: October 11, 2014 05:10PM

^^^
You mean like in Arlington? But doesn't Arlington pander to illegals? And there's that whole streetcar thing going on. I don't know what to make of that.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Out of town on a light rail ()
Date: October 11, 2014 05:32PM

Graham C. Wrote:
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> ^^^
> You mean like in Arlington? But doesn't Arlington
> pander to illegals? And there's that whole
> streetcar thing going on. I don't know what to
> make of that.


That's to get rid of them.

Arlington's actually become more white over recent years.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: spicetown ()
Date: October 11, 2014 06:02PM

If you wannabe wit Vienna, you gotta get wit Oakton.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Northsider ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:51PM

beltway Wrote:
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> Vienna is a wannabe city. Much of what they have
> to offer can be found closer in to DC. If that is
> all you can afford though, it's a decent
> compromise.

Tysons is a city-to-be. Vienna is an amenities-loaded, family-oriented town and that's exactly all that it has ever aspired to be. You CANNOT find what Vienna has to offer further in. Falls Church would be the closest comparable, but it's older, more cramped, and more difficult to get into or out of. Much of McLean and North Arlington costs more, but they don't deliver nearly as much. Vienna is the perfect answer for a lot of people. You can't improve much on perfect.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Historian ()
Date: October 11, 2014 11:06PM

spicetown Wrote:
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> If you wannabe wit Vienna, you gotta get wit Oakton.

While it plainly suits some people, Oakton is pretty much a sleepy zone-of-nothingness between Vienna and Fairfax City. It hasn't really been the same since the streetcar line closed down. The Oakton station is still there, but it's a private residence today...
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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Alexander Smith ()
Date: October 12, 2014 10:56AM

Historian Wrote:
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> spicetown Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If you wannabe wit Vienna, you gotta get wit
> Oakton.
>
> While it plainly suits some people, Oakton is
> pretty much a sleepy zone-of-nothingness between
> Vienna and Fairfax City. It hasn't really been
> the same since the streetcar line closed down.
> The Oakton station is still there, but it's a
> private residence today...
> .

+1 for truth. Do you live there?


Lived in Vienna for over 25 years and it's a wonderful place besides the traffic and cops. Moved now but not too far away and I still miss living there.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: beltway ()
Date: October 12, 2014 02:36PM

Northsider Wrote:
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> Vienna is an amenities-loaded, family-oriented town and that's
> exactly all that it has ever aspired to be. You
> CANNOT find what Vienna has to offer further in.

You can find all of it and then some (including a shorter commute to DC).

> Falls Church would be the closest comparable, but
> it's older, more cramped, and more difficult to
> get into or out of.

Falls Church has the same diverse housing stock that Vienna has. It just costs more. As for getting in and out, there are numerous options including public transportation. As one poster above mentioned, there are many cul de sacs and few through streets. Does that setup sound easy to get in and out of.

Name one amenity Vienna has that Falls Church doesn't have.

> Vienna is the perfect answer for
> a lot of people.

Perfect if that's all you can afford.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Historian ()
Date: October 12, 2014 03:17PM

Alexander Smith Wrote:
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> +1 for truth. Do you live there?

No, I don't live there, but I've traced most of the route of the old Fairfax Line, and that of course leads straight to the house. It's still a residence, but it's in a conservation trust.

> Lived in Vienna for over 25 years and it's a
> wonderful place besides the traffic and cops.
> Moved now but not too far away and I still miss
> living there.

I don't live there either, but as pointed out above, it's an actual town with an actual town government. That gives it a character and sense of self that makes it a different place. Traffic is bad more or less everywhere at rush hour, and while I was once stopped and given a warning by Vienna police, I haven't had much else to do with them. Not sure that they can be so much worse than the county police.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Gunga Din IV ()
Date: October 12, 2014 03:21PM

Avi Dey lives in Vienna, that fact alone speaks volumes for the town.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: These Indians... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:29PM

Gunga Din IV Wrote:
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> Avi Dey lives in Vienna, that fact alone speaks
> volumes for the town.

I guess you two don't get along. But he does not live in Vienna. He lives in Cyrandall Valley (Mosby Woods), on the west side of Blake Lane and on the very farthest western edge of 22181.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Nostradamus ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:30PM

The mattress store is having a buy 1 get 12 half off sale tomorrow. Yes, the mattress store. THE!

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:36PM

beltway Wrote:
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> Name one amenity Vienna has that Falls Church
> doesn't have.

Closer to Merrifield. Had your bulgogi yet today, asshole? Hope you left a generous tip.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: NO! NOT TILL - ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:37PM

Future Vienna Resident Wrote:
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> There's been quite a few threads and many posts
> lately about Vienna, VA. Some are strong boosters
> and others are detractors. I'm kind of confused
> and having been there only once can't form a
> strong opinion on it.
>
> I was thinking of moving there but now am not
> sure.
>
> Is it really better than the rest of the county
> and in what ways?
>
> Serious answers only please.


Vienna, VA. SUCKS!
And it WILL be the general census until MAYBE after they double-widen Route 123, Chain Bridge Road.
Too many of the other roads seriously need to be widened as well. Until then, MAYBE Vienna will get rated off the bottom of the barrell.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: beltway ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:43PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> beltway Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Name one amenity Vienna has that Falls Church
> > doesn't have.
>
> Closer to Merrifield. Had your bulgogi yet today,
> asshole? Hope you left a generous tip.


Take your meds? And I don't mean your boner pills.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Vienna sucks ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:43PM

Even the Route 1 section of Fairfax is nicer.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Problem... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:46PM

NO! NOT TILL - Wrote:
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> Vienna, VA. SUCKS!
> And it WILL be the general census until MAYBE
> after they double-widen Route 123, Chain Bridge
> Road.
> Too many of the other roads seriously need to be
> widened as well. Until then, MAYBE Vienna will
> get rated off the bottom of the barrell.

I think you have to be able to spell "barrel" before you can live there. Might have to know the difference between "census" and "concensus" as well. And maybe know where Maple Avenue is as opposed to Chain Bridge Road. Apart from that, there will of course be no widening of 123. Tysons traffic in general will be shunted off onto Gallows Road and 267 instead.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Passing on the Waltz ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:49PM

Northsider Wrote:
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> beltway Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vienna is a wannabe city. Much of what they
> have
> > to offer can be found closer in to DC. If that
> is
> > all you can afford though, it's a decent
> > compromise.
>
> Tysons is a city-to-be. Vienna is an
> amenities-loaded, family-oriented town and that's
> exactly all that it has ever aspired to be. You
> CANNOT find what Vienna has to offer further in.
> Falls Church would be the closest comparable, but
> it's older, more cramped, and more difficult to
> get into or out of. Much of McLean and North
> Arlington costs more, but they don't deliver
> nearly as much. Vienna is the perfect answer for
> a lot of people. You can't improve much on
> perfect.

Traffic in Vienna is the pits. Weekend, weekday, it doesn't matter: one congested clusterfuck of people living further out passing through Vienna in their exhaust-spewing cars to get to Tysons and other places they need to be. It's a shame there's no bypass, but Maple Avenue is a case study in poor planning and horrible architecture.

North Arlington, Falls Church and McLean cost more because they are in better locations with far less congestion. There is nothing of any value in Vienna you can't find in those places, as the market assigns little value to living in a town governed by a bunch of cranky seniors and monitored by a kiddie-cop police force comprised mostly of FCPD rejects. In fact, even in Vienna, the town residents are the poor cousins to the people who live in the surrounding county neighborhoods.

Go east of Vienna and it's wealthier in McLean. Head north and Great Falls blows Vienna out of the water. To the west, Oakton is a cut above Vienna as well. It only compares favorably to the semi-industrial Merrifield to the south, and even that may change eventually. Vienna is very, very...ordinary.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:07PM

beltway Wrote:
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> Take your meds? And I don't mean your boner pills.

Yeah, that's the stuff, goober. Fucking Falls Church middle school loser is still choking on nine solar eclipses worth of dust. Number ten comes up on the 23rd of the month. Have you run into Alicia, lately, douchebag? She used to work at GAR, you know. Meanwhile, here's something to cause you nightmares...
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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: you're still butthurt ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:14PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> beltway Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Take your meds? And I don't mean your boner
> pills.
>
> Yeah, that's the stuff, goober. Fucking Falls
> Church middle school loser is still choking on
> nine solar eclipses worth of dust. Number ten
> comes up on the 23rd of the month. Have you run
> into Alicia, lately, douchebag? She used to work
> at GAR, you know. Meanwhile, here's something to
> cause you nightmares...
> .


Still butthurt over the last ass whooping I laid down on you I see, ya impotent fuck.

Isn't it about time to get dressed and pick up your Spicy Italian?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Northsider ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:21PM

Passing on the Waltz Wrote:
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> Traffic in Vienna is the pits.

On 123 during the morning and evening rush. Nobody who lives here uses 123 at those times.

> Weekend, weekday, it doesn't matter: one congested
> clusterfuck of people living further out passing
> through Vienna in their exhaust-spewing cars to get
> to Tysons and other places they need to be.

Simply not so. Mid-day on Saturdays may be crowded, but nothing like rush hour and nothing worse than anywhere else in the area.

> It's a shame there's no bypass, but Maple Avenue is a case study in
> poor planning and horrible architecture.

Of course there are bypasses. And 123 was planned in the 18th century. As for horrible architecture, where did you get your degree?

> North Arlington, Falls Church and McLean cost more
> because they are in better locations with far less
> congestion.

LOL! Do tell!

> There is nothing of any value in Vienna you can't
> find in those places, as the market assigns little
> value to living in a town governed by a bunch of
> cranky seniors and monitored by a kiddie-cop police
> force comprised mostly of FCPD rejects. In fact,
> even in Vienna, the town residents are the poor
> cousins to the people who live in the surrounding
> county neighborhoods. Go east of Vienna and it's
> wealthier in McLean. Head north and Great Falls
> blows Vienna out of the water. To the west, Oakton
> is a cut above Vienna as well. It only compares
> favorably to the semi-industrial Merrifield to the
> south, and even that may change eventually. Vienna
> is very, very...ordinary.

And 3rd on CNN/Money's 2013 list of the Best 100 Places to Live in America.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:31PM

you're still butthurt Wrote:
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> Still butthurt over the last ass whooping I laid
> down on you I see, ya impotent fuck.

What a very sad case.

> Isn't it about time to get dressed and pick up
> your Spicy Italian?

http://www.marcopolorestaurant.com/sunday-brunch-sample-menu/

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Asshole Spotter ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:37PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> Yeah, that's the stuff, goober. Fucking Falls
> Church middle school loser is still choking on
> nine solar eclipses worth of dust. Number ten
> comes up on the 23rd of the month. Have you run
> into Alicia, lately, douchebag? She used to work
> at GAR, you know. Meanwhile, here's something to
> cause you nightmares...

Wow. Is this the same guy who believes in million-dollar bus stops?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: you're still butthurt ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:39PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> you're still butthurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Still butthurt over the last ass whooping I
> laid
> > down on you I see, ya impotent fuck.
>
> What a very sad case.


You sure as hell are. Weeks later you are still thinking about me and the beat down you received. Pathetic, even for you.

> > Isn't it about time to get dressed and pick up
> > your Spicy Italian?
>
> http://www.marcopolorestaurant.com/sunday-brunch-s
> ample-menu/

Well, looks like you missed it as it ends at 3. Why am I not surprised your out of shape impotent ass can't even manage to get to brunch on time?

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:40PM

Asshole Spotter Wrote:
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> Wow. Is this the same guy who believes in
> million-dollar bus stops?

LOL! There are a number of those, but he's no doubt one of them. He does think that there is gristle in a rib-eye, though.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Passing on the Waltz ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:46PM

Northsider - an anemic post on your part from someone who wasn't prepared to have his head handed to him on a platter. Let's recap:

Traffic in Vienna sucks all the time. Even when it sucks less than at other times, it still sucks.

Vienna residents cannot avoid 123 without spending more time on other traffic nightmares like 66. And 90% of the retail in Vienna is on that one, traffic-clogged road.

You do not need a master's in Architecture to recognize strip-mall buildings at their most banal.

You did not even try to defend the losing argument that Vienna is under-valued relative to more desirable and more convenient areas in Arlington, Falls Church and McLean. Perhaps the dozens of unsold new Crapsman-style McMansions in 22180 are getting you down.

Movoto ranked Centreville very highly, too, so such rankings are forgotten as soon as they are published. Surely you can do better that cite poorly designed algorithms that reward outside-the-Beltway areas for cheaper housing while failing to factor in their obscene traffic congestion and hellish commutes.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Actually... ()
Date: October 12, 2014 05:54PM

you're still butthurt Wrote:
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> You sure as hell are. Weeks later you are still
> thinking about me and the beat down you received.
> Pathetic, even for you.

LOL! Swallowed the fake principal post hook, line, and sinker. Changing handles is not enough to mask stupidity like that.

> Well, looks like you missed it as it ends at 3.
> Why am I not surprised your out of shape impotent
> ass can't even manage to get to brunch on time?

Dude, you do seem very confused. I ate earlier. I guess you can have a bulgogi brunch at Honey Pig at odd hours of the day, but your traditional Sunday champagne brunch is a late morning/early afternoon affair. Everybody knows that. It was great today as usual, and right there in Vienna as well. So many nice restaurants in Vienna. Some of us are lucky to live in this area.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Asshole Spotter ()
Date: October 12, 2014 06:15PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> LOL! There are a number of those, but he's no
> doubt one of them. He does think that there is
> gristle in a rib-eye, though.

I wonder if he is and will again be the one who claims his favored burgs all have a higher AGI than Vienna. Don't you just love it when the truly stupid ones try to play smart guy? Good for endless laughs.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Northsider ()
Date: October 12, 2014 06:46PM

Passing on the Waltz Wrote:
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> Traffic in Vienna sucks all the time. Even when
> it sucks less than at other times, it still
> sucks.

You don't live in Vienna. You don't even visit. This is simply a silly statement.

> Vienna residents cannot avoid 123 without spending
> more time on other traffic nightmares like 66.

This is also a silly statement.

> And 90% of the retail in Vienna is on that one,
> traffic-clogged road.

Solution: Do not try to shop during rush hour. Didn't think of that, did you? It holds true all over the place, by the way.

> You do not need a master's in Architecture to
> recognize strip-mall buildings at their most
> banal.

So you have no qualification to speak on architectural matters beyond the personal opinions of a schoolboy. Nice.

> You did not even try to defend the losing argument
> that Vienna is under-valued relative to more
> desirable and more convenient areas in Arlington,
> Falls Church and McLean. Perhaps the dozens of
> unsold new Crapsman-style McMansions in 22180 are
> getting you down.

The upturn in the economy has restarted construction that was put on hold during the Great Recession. At first, these were build-to-suit projects, but things have gone well enough that build-and-sell is making a comeback as well. None of it bothers me at all. I have no interest in being either a buyer or a seller. I did see this morning that one of the snow-bird elevator townhomes behind the Giant was under contract. $950K was asked.

> Movoto ranked Centreville very highly, too, so
> such rankings are forgotten as soon as they are
> published. Surely you can do better that cite
> poorly designed algorithms that reward
> outside-the-Beltway areas for cheaper housing
> while failing to factor in their obscene traffic
> congestion and hellish commutes.

Movoto? The poor man's zillow? Pfft! And the CNN/Noney rankings are of course not soon forgotten, which is why they still tick you off so much.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: you're still butthurt ()
Date: October 12, 2014 07:47PM

Actually... Wrote:
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> you're still butthurt Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You sure as hell are. Weeks later you are
> still
> > thinking about me and the beat down you
> received.
> > Pathetic, even for you.
>
> LOL! Swallowed the fake principal post hook,
> line, and sinker. Changing handles is not enough
> to mask stupidity like that.

The fact that you think anyone believed that is a clear indication of how far out of touch with reality you are. You probably think you are fooling people with the Asshole Spotter name at well. Silly, impotent fool.

> > Well, looks like you missed it as it ends at 3.
>
> > Why am I not surprised your out of shape
> impotent
> > ass can't even manage to get to brunch on time?
>
> Dude, you do seem very confused.

Yeah, because I'm the one who when asked at 5:14 if it was time for a Spicy Italian responded with a brunch menu that ended at 3:00. Right? You've mastered stupidity and taken it to a whole new level. No

Now respond and be sure to do a second response from a different name pretending to not be you.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: Passing on the Waltz ()
Date: October 12, 2014 07:48PM

Northsider Wrote:
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> You don't live in Vienna. You don't even visit.
> This is simply a silly statement.
>
Silly? Well, Mr. Poopy Head, you don't know whether I've lived in or visited Vienna now, do you?
>

> Solution: Do not try to shop during rush hour.
> Didn't think of that, did you? It holds true all
> over the place, by the way.

Vienna is a parking lot during most waking hours, and it's not exactly chock full of places with off-hours shopping, either. I guess you can head out to Amphora and a massage parlor at midnight if you want to avoid the crowds. Otherwise, trying to get anywhere there quickly blows.
>
> So you have no qualification to speak on
> architectural matters beyond the personal opinions
> of a schoolboy. Nice.
>
Telling, but not surprising, that you make no effort to defend the quality of Vienna's hideous main drag. There's not a single building of any merit or distinction on Maple Avenue. It's 1960 and 1970s sprawl at its most virulent.

> The upturn in the economy has restarted
> construction that was put on hold during the Great
> Recession. At first, these were build-to-suit
> projects, but things have gone well enough that
> build-and-sell is making a comeback as well. None
> of it bothers me at all. I have no interest in
> being either a buyer or a seller. I did see this
> morning that one of the snow-bird elevator
> townhomes behind the Giant was under contract.
> $950K was asked.
>
No one wants vacant properties all over their neighborhoods, and the over-supply of new construction invariably will lead to declining prices in Vienna.


> Movoto? The poor man's zillow? Pfft! And the
> CNN/Noney rankings are of course not soon
> forgotten, which is why they still tick you off so
> much.

What rankings?

Conclusion: Vienna is where people settle when they have to settle.

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Re: Is Vienna really that much better than the rest of Fairfax County?
Posted by: vienna boys choir ()
Date: October 12, 2014 07:52PM

Asshole Spotter Wrote:
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> Actually... Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL! There are a number of those, but he's no
> > doubt one of them. He does think that there is
> > gristle in a rib-eye, though.
>
> I wonder if he is and will again be the one who
> claims his favored burgs all have a higher AGI
> than Vienna. Don't you just love it when the
> truly stupid ones try to play smart guy? Good for
> endless laughs.


Almost as funny when stupid fuckers talk to themselves thinking that nobody knows it's them.

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