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Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: wondering about baileys ()
Date: October 07, 2014 11:04PM

The principal at Bailey's, Marie Lemmon, is being sued for discrimination of three employees and one student. This isn't the first time she has been sued. Why does fairfax keep her in that job? can't imagine how many other kids without voices are being discriminated against. The annandale blog says she is a really mean person.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: wondering about baileys ()
Date: October 07, 2014 11:10PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: problem ()
Date: October 08, 2014 08:24AM

She's not the only mean person out there. Meanness seems to get confused with firmness and fairness in the FCPS world. Stomping your foot does not mean that the stomping is justified. Cool heads need to prevail.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: concerned4 ()
Date: October 08, 2014 08:18PM

Wtf

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Truth like it or not ()
Date: October 08, 2014 09:43PM

Fairness is not a word understood by the person being sued here, in my opinion. There is no way all four of them are making this stuff up. She's been sued before and now four more people. And, the worst part is that one of them is a student, an elementary student. I have never heard of such a mess before. Did anyone else read the lawsuit and recognize a pattern of behavior here? Why does Fairfax Schools put up with this from someone in a leadership position? Let's put someone in the position who put students first.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: also concerned ()
Date: October 09, 2014 09:58PM

Does anyone have any information about the previous lawsuit?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: also concerned ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:05PM

From the lawsuit:

55. Throughout this time, Ms. Lemmon repeatedly insisted that Rachel and the other assistant principals only hire "pretty, young blondes," who did not have families, and would "work for" her.

56. If a teacher was not a "pretty, young blonde" Ms. Lemmon would frequendy refer to the teachers as the "geek squad."

57. Ms. Lemmon also told Rachel on numerous occasions that she would not be able to
progress in her career with her responsibilities as a wife and mother.

58. During a conversation about children in March 2013, Ms. Lemmon made
disparaging comments about breastfeeding, indicating that it was unnecessary because, "we do not live in a third world country like Africa."


Third would country like Africa, really? Why is she still employed by FCPS?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: wowowow ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:45AM

^ It sounds like she is mentally ill or psychologically impaired. Maybe she will have the insanity defense?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: serious incompetence ()
Date: October 10, 2014 09:42AM

OK, so she's got some real problems - but the striking incompetence is with whoever hasn't fired/suspended her after that lawsuit has come out.

So who is that FCPS idiot?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Crossroads ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:35AM

When the plaintiffs be named Yolanda and Shyrone, I ain't be gettin too worked up over that bish.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: peas in a pod ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:29AM

^ It looks like Ms. Lemmon shares your sentiments (and a name that doesn't bode well for her either).

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Fire Principle Lemmon ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:00AM

After reading the whole lawsuit it am appalled by the actions of Principle Lemmon and would encourage everyone to email the Superintendent and the Deputy Superintendent below and express your discontent with the actions or Ms. Lemmon and call for her to be fired.

Karen Garza, Ph.D.
Superintendent
SuperintendentGarza@fcps.edu

Steven Lockard, Ph.D
Deputy Superintendent
Steven.Lockard@fcps.edu

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: SRRes ()
Date: October 11, 2014 10:35AM

you may want to look up the ongoing problems at Loudoun Valley HS in Purcellville. The principal there is rumored to play the discrimination lawsuit card when anyone challenges her policies or behavior, but for a protected sexual class instead of a racial one. maybe this principal has some of the same cards in her sleeve?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: psychiatric ward calling ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:17PM

It's more likely she has the "medical issues" card up her sleeve.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: October 12, 2014 12:04PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: count me in ()
Date: October 12, 2014 12:27PM

Wish I knew this three years ago, sounds like Bailey's is the place to be, no wonder it's so popular around here.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: former fcps teacher ()
Date: October 12, 2014 06:30PM

I worked 1 year in FCPS under Marie Lemmon. I read the court document today and believe each and every word. THIS is who she is and has been before my issues with her. I was a veteran teacher with 14 prior years of experience before working with her. I still have all of my documentation and shared it with central office. They didn't ate. I wonder if they care now? I then spent the next year unemployed and unable to even work as a sub because of the things that happened with her. In retaliation, I was non renewed. They let her go and on. I won my unemployment and have an EEOC case against her which led to mediation in January 2012. It went unresolved.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Anonymous815 ()
Date: October 12, 2014 11:20PM

Lemmon is unprofessional and questionable ... She needs to be investigated.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Who is Lemmon's boss? ()
Date: October 13, 2014 01:24AM

serious incompetence Wrote:
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> OK, so she's got some real problems - but the
> striking incompetence is with whoever hasn't
> fired/suspended her after that lawsuit has come
> out.
>
> So who is that FCPS idiot?

Lemmon's boss since the summer has been Fabio Zuluaga. He's the assistant superintendent of region 2.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: former fcps teacher ()
Date: October 13, 2014 06:36AM

Who is Lemmon's boss? Wrote:
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> serious incompetence Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > OK, so she's got some real problems - but the
> > striking incompetence is with whoever hasn't
> > fired/suspended her after that lawsuit has come
> > out.
> >
> > So who is that FCPS idiot?
>
> Lemmon's boss since the summer has been Fabio
> Zuluaga. He's the assistant superintendent of
> region 2.

Dr. Braband had enough to get rid of her back in 2010-2011. I will never understand why FCPS defends her...no matter the documentation that has mounted against her by various employees.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: just a thought on this ()
Date: October 13, 2014 11:07AM

In response to your question about FCPS defensiveness:


I just read a great article, "To Get Ahead Today, Learn How to Learn", in the Post Capital Business insert. It was written by Edward Hess who is a professor of business at U-VA. He pretty much hit the nail on the head. Here is an excerpt:

Knowing how to learn requires us to rise above that humanness. That requires that we manage our thinking and emotions and rigorously use best thinking and collaborating processes. This means we need to "listen to learn" as opposed to listening to confirm what we believe. We need to reach the point where we feel insecure about not having our thinking or work product critiqued or challenged in contrast to feeling insecure if it is challenged or critiqued . . .

. . . the big learning inhibitors: complacency, close mindedness, fear of failure or looking bad, intellectual arrogance and emotional defensiveness.

. . . emotionally positive people-centric cultures (that) result in a trusting safe environment where people can be candid, authentic, and vulnerable with permission to speak freely without regard to rank and with permission to fail within proscribed financial parameters."


Granted, he is talking about businesses, but I think there are some lessons in his article that apply to places like FCPS. It is more than a bit ironic that we are tasked with teaching students how to learn and being open minded to different ways of thinking with our students, yet the administrators are often not open to the same thing.

I think there is a very protectionist, top down culture within FCPS and in order to have real success and improvement, that has to be changed. I do believe that the new superintendent understands this problem. She has an uphill struggle, but she might at least turn the wheel.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Who's with me? ()
Date: October 14, 2014 10:27PM

I just sent an e-mail to FCPS Supt. and Deputy. Supt. Who else is with me? This alleged behavior should be investigated. Maybe time off with pay until they find out more.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Response ()
Date: October 14, 2014 10:34PM

From fcps machine.....

Thanks for writing, we are unable to comment on personnel issues.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: come on fcps.. ()
Date: October 14, 2014 11:08PM

I am sure that is going to be the response. However, don't let that stop you from letting them know how you feel that they keep this person in a place of leadership over kids.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Why Fairfax? ()
Date: October 14, 2014 11:10PM

Contact the school board member Sandy Evans. She is usually responsive and the machine has to respond to her.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Underground Railroaded ()
Date: October 15, 2014 12:31AM

Is this the case of a couple of blackskins trying to get even with a whiteskin for not playing in the diversity sandbox with them?

If so, she's fucked.

Redskin

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: concerned sibling ()
Date: October 15, 2014 04:41PM

I am the older sister of a student at Principal Lemmon's previous school. I am of Hispanic heritage, but U.S. born. She would discriminate against anyone who looked Hispanic because she assumed that we didn't speak English. She would roll her eyes at me, and not even acknowlwledge that I was there, when entering the office. Once, I was kicked out of the school after hours, when all I was doing was bringing a former teacher some food since he was staying late to grade tests and papers. I, too, went to that Elementary School, and kept in touch with many of the teachers/staff that were still there, and she was absolutely horrible to many of them as well. I was thrilled when I heard that she would no longer be at that school, until I saw on the news that she would be the Principal of the school where she is currently. This has been a long time coming, and I hope that the law is on those teachers' and student's side. Marie Lemmon definitely should not be working as a principal of an Elementary School, especially in FCPS, where the student and staff population is so diverse.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: ITS ALL OVER THE NEWS NOW ()
Date: October 15, 2014 05:39PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: yep ()
Date: October 15, 2014 06:14PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: why she wasn't fired ()
Date: October 15, 2014 06:20PM

She probably increased the test scores at the schools where she was principal and that's pretty much what her boss cared about. She probably made some nice spreadsheets. That's what seems to count.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: ApplesforJohnny ()
Date: October 15, 2014 06:39PM

The problem with someone or authority over others is that they always seem to think they are above everything at one point or another. This leads them to do what they wilt. It always ends up ugly.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: hotties ()
Date: October 15, 2014 07:25PM

Hot or not

Was fat
MarieLemmon.jpg

Now kind of hot
baileyses.jpg

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: October 15, 2014 08:04PM

One has to take into account that niggers complain about everything when reviewing this case.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: ...... ()
Date: October 15, 2014 08:05PM

concerned sibling Wrote:
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> I am the older sister of a student at Principal
> Lemmon's previous school. I am of Hispanic
> heritage, but U.S. born. She would discriminate
> against anyone who looked Hispanic because she
> assumed that we didn't speak English. She would
> roll her eyes at me, and not even acknowlwledge
> that I was there, when entering the office. Once,
> I was kicked out of the school after hours, when
> all I was doing was bringing a former teacher some
> food since he was staying late to grade tests and
> papers. I, too, went to that Elementary School,
> and kept in touch with many of the teachers/staff
> that were still there, and she was absolutely
> horrible to many of them as well. I was thrilled
> when I heard that she would no longer be at that
> school, until I saw on the news that she would be
> the Principal of the school where she is
> currently. This has been a long time coming, and I
> hope that the law is on those teachers' and
> student's side. Marie Lemmon definitely should not
> be working as a principal of an Elementary School,
> especially in FCPS, where the student and staff
> population is so diverse.

How many babies have you cranked out so far? Do you have a nice, thick latina ass?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Relieved ()
Date: October 15, 2014 08:20PM

I worked under her for one year. I was relieved to see that she was being sued. She is highly unprofessional and has emotionally tormented many highly skilled and professional FCPS employees. I can't think of one positive thing to say about her, which is horrible. FCPS gives too much power to its principals.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: principal ()
Date: October 15, 2014 09:14PM

Marie Lemmon is a disgrace to our school system. Every leader is well aware of her shady character. I know of no principal who holds her in well regard. Fcps needs to remove her from her position.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Lemmon needs to go ()
Date: October 15, 2014 09:20PM

Marie Lemmon managed to screw up every school she worked. Look at her test scores,,,,atrocious! The public needs to demand her resignation. Email Karen Garza as she supports this principal and does not read these posts.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Thu43 ()
Date: October 15, 2014 09:36PM

I would be willing to wager a very large sum of money that one of the plaintiffs has written 95% of the posts above. Same rambling, angry vitriol. Shut the fuck up. We get it. You wanna get paid.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Fire Principle Lemmon ()
Date: October 15, 2014 09:49PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Been there, done that ()
Date: October 15, 2014 10:23PM

OMG must read...from Channel 9 WUSA... all 31 pages of court filings, statements...things she said and did...
some things never change!
Same old person and tactics but this time she may have met her match, I hope!


https://www.scribd.com/doc/243137789/Lemmon-Court-Documents

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: but she freaking jewish she want ()
Date: October 15, 2014 10:45PM

she wanted tro go xmas shopping she jewish.....
In
December
2013,
Ms.
Lemmon
released
theother
assistant
principalsfrom
their
duties
so
that
they
could
go
Christmas
shopping,but
specifically
excluded
Rachel
from
this
early
release.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Prestigious ()
Date: October 15, 2014 11:20PM

I didn't know until I read this complaint that Bailey's is the "most prestigious" elementary school in the county (par. 181). Learn something new every day.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Gordon ()
Date: October 16, 2014 01:24AM

Fairfax County School System needs to start taking action instead of ignoring complaints and bad culture. There are many Principals like Marie Lemmon or they could even be worse. No action is taken on them. It needs to get rid of some of the horrible culture,and make ethics and compliance first in all aspects.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: RdFox ()
Date: October 16, 2014 01:30AM

She is kept on the job because she is a POS liberal!

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: resident of the county ()
Date: October 16, 2014 02:45PM

Funny how if you go to the Baileys Elementary school website, you see the picture of the current 3 principals and Lemon together. One of the assistants is black.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: irony ()
Date: October 16, 2014 02:50PM

Yeah conveniently the minority hire rate jumps when she is accused of discrimination...I bet this hire was made after the allegations were made to the district.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: irony ()
Date: October 16, 2014 03:43PM

Yes, the black assistant principle was hired AFTER the allegations were made.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Know nothing ()
Date: October 16, 2014 06:32PM

When is the actual court date? I noticed that the schools profile page that shows ethnicity of the student body, on the FCPS website, is disabled.
I know the area is heavily Spanish, any Spanish administrators??

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: selfish vs. selfless ()
Date: October 16, 2014 06:49PM

^ I think you hit the "sore spot" here. The former AP who is filing the lawsuit was a fluent Spanish speaker. There was, no doubt, jealousy (on the part of Ms. Lemmon) of the plaintiff's ability to connect with a largely Hispanic community. There is also little doubt that the AP was a very intelligent woman who took her job and career seriously. Bailey's lost someone who wanted to be involved with that community. Sad.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: threadmeister ()
Date: October 17, 2014 10:51AM

I like this thread for Marie Lemmon because it has the phone numbers and emails of the icompetent morons at FCPS who haven't yet suspended her even after the lawsuit allegations came out.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Demographer ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:13AM

Know nothing Wrote:
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> When is the actual court date? I noticed that the
> schools profile page that shows ethnicity of the
> student body, on the FCPS website, is disabled.
> I know the area is heavily Spanish, any Spanish
> administrators??

You're looking at the profile page for Bailey's Upper, which has no historical profile information because it's a new school for grades 3-5. You can still find the profile information for the original school on Knollwood Drive

http://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13:::::P0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID:103

None of the current administrators is Hispanic; obviously many of the kids and some of the teachers are.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Weekend Update ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:15AM

selfish vs. selfless Wrote:
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> ^ I think you hit the "sore spot" here. The
> former AP who is filing the lawsuit was a fluent
> Spanish speaker. There was, no doubt, jealousy
> (on the part of Ms. Lemmon) of the plaintiff's
> ability to connect with a largely Hispanic
> community. There is also little doubt that the AP
> was a very intelligent woman who took her job and
> career seriously. Bailey's lost someone who
> wanted to be involved with that community. Sad.

From reading various forums, it's pretty clear that many of the parents disliked Rachel Charlton and found her unhelpful and self-absorbed.

That doesn't make Marie Lemmon's conduct, if what's alleged as true, much better, but it does mean that Charlton is putting her own behavior under a microscope as well, and she's not exactly considered one of the crown jewels of FCPS by parents who've actually dealt with her.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: youaregoingtobedisappointed ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:32AM

As a veteran(20+) FCPS administrator, I assure you It would take me a long time to find a colleague willing to defend ML, whether you like it or not, this is gonna happen and she is gonna lose her job. You can besmirch RC all you want, I believe every word they are saying and the detailed complaint cant be ignored, except by you and the frankly deluded and soon to be disappointed minority here defending ML's disgusting actions.

I will repeat myself incase you missed me saying it earlier, this is gonna happen, it's going to be ugly and it's gonna be national.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Weekend Update ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:38AM

youaregoingtobedisappointed Wrote:
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> As a veteran(20+) FCPS administrator, I assure you
> It would take me a long time to find a colleague
> willing to defend ML, whether you like it or not,
> this is gonna happen and she is gonna lose her
> job. You can besmirch RC all you want, I believe
> every word they are saying and the detailed
> complaint cant be ignored, except by you and the
> frankly deluded and soon to be disappointed
> minority here defending ML's disgusting actions.
>
> I will repeat myself incase you missed me saying
> it earlier, this is gonna happen, it's going to be
> ugly and it's gonna be national.

I could give a crap if Marie Lemmon is sent packing. She can always be replaced, and not too many people will lose much sleep about it.

However, the "go Rachel" crowd has to deal with the fact that, by filing a federal lawsuit, their own dirty laundry will get aired. In Charlton's case, that includes many Bailey's parents pointing out that she wasn't exactly a loved figure at the school. And, if the complaint itself is a reflection of her own personality, she comes across as whiny and narcissistic.

Finally, you are totally deluded if you think this is "gonna be national." This is petty shit, a movie that everyone's seen ten times before.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: LikeaRATonasinkingship ()
Date: October 17, 2014 12:13PM

I know there are many many more supporters of Charlton than there are detractors and I wont discount your experiences. Nobody is perfect, but I know of no instances her integrity could be called into question and frankly the comparison isn't even close as to pertains to reputation. Lemmon is literally a joke inside the system and has been for nearly a decade. When I was introduced to her in 2007, the Asst. Sup who made the intro told me as much....

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Ridiculous ()
Date: October 17, 2014 05:47PM

There will never be an administrator who is loved by all. In my experience, RC was always professional and willing to meet with parents, staff, etc. In general, parents aren't happy unless you tell them what they want to hear. This is like comparing apples to oranges. There is never a time for harassment, being unprofessional, discrimination, mental torture, etc. in the workplace.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Curious29 ()
Date: October 17, 2014 06:28PM

Where are the posts that speak directly about the AP, Rachel Charlton?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Joining the club ()
Date: October 17, 2014 06:57PM

Finally everyone is beginning to become aware of the behavior from the administrators at Bailey's. AND other than Rachel- who is a VERY nice person- the other APs are bullies to staff and so is their CHAIR who is extremely rude and mean. This "model" behavior has affected many teachers to act the same in order to appease the "bosses" so they don't get fired. Basically they are all "mean girls", pretending to be adults. Unprofessional barely touches the tip of the iceberg.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: It's national.. ()
Date: October 17, 2014 09:32PM

It's already gone national...the Associated Press took it a sit is all over the news across Va, NY, DC, LA, San Fran, NC, SC, FL....umm it's not petty. I've sen ML on tons of newspapers. Did you see the national newspaper called The Washington Post?...1/2 page on it? It's pretty big already and I wouldn't be surprised if others now have the courage to come out of the woodwork.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: It's true, so true! ()
Date: October 17, 2014 09:40PM

I have worked with this lady before and can ensure the allegations are TRUE! I'm in the central office and have watched this happen from afar and shame on me for allowing it to continue without stepping up. I'm glad some have taken this on and have enough courage to take this lady on. She has told me and others before that some have tried to take her down before and it would never happen. She does prefer hire newer teachers, she told me this before.

She is mean spirited and doesn't care who she bulldozes along the way. I have heard her talk very poorly about the same people taking care of her now...some of the leaders who work with me. She would have lunch with one of the new "cabinet" members in the Leadership Group and one right out and say they suck as leaders and even referred to one as "stupid as hell".. The same person referenced in this lawsuit. She "snows" some of the leaders, they adore her...and then she stabs them inthe back! If they only knew....Most principals would have been removed by now. But, they seem to protect her. She's even referred tithe new Supt. as the "Texan B from Hell." Im sure dr g would love to know it!

I'm thinking the breastfeeding comment by her is likely true just given her attitude and personality towards more seasoned teachers (negative)or teachers who don't follow in her footsteps and do exactly as she says. If you disagree or say one thing she doesn't like, you are out of there! One teacher even told me she does the teacher's nails at school and the teacher goes along with it for fear of retaliation. The teacher said she

Glad she has finally been called out on this activity! Why does she continue to be the FCPS Star? It's time the leaders take a real look at her for who she really is. Too bad such a mean person is the one in charge of our students. It's time for her to go.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Concerned 1 ()
Date: October 18, 2014 11:03AM

She's the one they swapped when the plantiff AP started making waves. Trying to get ahead of the discrimination allegations.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: thisgetsbetterandbetter ()
Date: October 20, 2014 11:18AM

Lemmon expected teachers to get married and have children during the summer. “She stood up in staff meetings and said, if you’re going to have a baby, don’t do it on my time.”

http://annandaleva.blogspot.com/2014/10/baileys-principal-charged-with.html

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: None of my business, but... ()
Date: October 20, 2014 12:44PM

Is Ms. Lemmon gay? (Not that there's anything wrong with that) I've worked with lesbians who made these sorts of comments.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: You Would Be Surprised ()
Date: October 20, 2014 01:23PM

None of my business, but... Wrote:
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> Is Ms. Lemmon gay? (Not that there's anything
> wrong with that) I've worked with lesbians who
> made these sorts of comments.

You might be surprised how many Elementary School Administrators and Teachers are actually gay.

I know one school where the Principal is gay and it seemed that there was a disproportionate number of gay teachers hired at the school.

Seems that a lot of these Administrators are master politicians and a bit slimy as to how they run things.

Sounds like this Marie Lemmon probably has too much working against her at this point. Too bad so many parents are too afraid to speak up as they think what may happen to my little darling if there is retaliation.

If the administration is this bad off, it will impact the total school character and something needs to be done about it.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: whatthef ()
Date: October 20, 2014 08:07PM

From the Washington Post comments...


My spouse has taught at Bailey's under Lemmon. Here is some additional information the Post should follow up on:

-- This is the third time Lemmon has been sued.

-- The 88% appproval rating was a farce. Lemmon summoned the faculty in advance of the survey and advised teachers that they would all be in trouble if there was a low leadership rating.

-- In my 50+ years in Fairfax County, as a student, parent, and spouse of a teacher, Lemmon is one of the top 5 most reviled school employees I've heard tell of. No one other than a few cronies at Bailey's and her previous elementary school has anything good to say about her.

Now that this story is out, the Post should do a follow-up story on the issues above, and interview current and former employees who previously would have been afraid to speak but now have some ability to do so. This principal is a toxic, self-promoting totalitarian who needs to be relieved of command.

Let's see if Reality14 comes back to challenge the comments about the prior lawsuits or the survey charade.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: FormerEmployee ()
Date: October 20, 2014 10:09PM

I'm a former employee of Bailey's. I am one of the 30-40 staff members that left that same year ML came to Bailey's. While reading my 31-page complaint, all I did was nod my head. Truth to all.

I absolute love Bailey's and the whole community but it got to a point that I was no longer happy. FCPS, shame on you for dismissing all the complaints filled against her prior to this lawsuit.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Ann Onymous ()
Date: October 20, 2014 10:36PM

None of my business, but... Wrote:
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> Is Ms. Lemmon gay? (Not that there's anything
> wrong with that) I've worked with lesbians who
> made these sorts of comments.


No, she's married to a man who teaches in a neighboring county. They have children.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Bogus ()
Date: October 21, 2014 10:19PM

This is for all the ignorant people who have commented negatively regarding this bogus lawsuit. For one I have worked at Baileys and I think it is so shameful for people who don't know the truth to be commenting. If you personally don't know the facts why put your two cents in it. Since Ms.Lemmon took over she has brought the school up to where it needed to be and I can attest to that from working there. I know this is a public forum but this is someone's job on the line. This person has a family and it's just disgraceful to see the absurd comments. It's especially disgusting to see comments from former colleagues. Shame on you. The fact that we are going to waste court systems time and tax payers dollars on this trump up lawsuit is ridiculous. If you look at Baileys profile you will see that since Principal Lemmon took over students testing and overall grade has gone up. That should say a lot. The fact that one of the teachers who is suing is using her child that is shameful and she has a PhD. I wonder when the truth comes out will still be talking?...hmmm

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Ignorant people who comment ()
Date: October 21, 2014 10:22PM

RdFox Wrote:
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> She is kept on the job because she is a POS liberal!


"POS liberal", now you're being redundant.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: scoresdown ()
Date: October 21, 2014 11:06PM

You need to look at your own schools scores, you are down in almost every category, while in some instances testing nearly half the kids you did the previous years.

That's what's shameful. You try a numbers game by testing less kids and you fail at that too. If you work there then you are aware of Lemmon's behavior and hence condone it, or maybe you are disconnected from it unlike your colleagues that were pushed out/are currently being pushed out/treated poorly or you are part of it.....none of the possibilities bode well for you.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: scoresdown ()
Date: October 21, 2014 11:10PM


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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: principal evaluations ()
Date: October 22, 2014 07:36AM

SOL test scores are a lousy way to evaluate a principal's effectiveness. For one thing, some SOL tests became a little harder. For another, SOL scores don't recognize teachers who brought a kid from 2 grades to 1 grade below grade level. That kid will still fail his SOL test.

Instead, look at teacher attrition from a school. Are well-regarded teachers and assistant principals leaving? How many? Are they being replaced by younger teachers who are afraid to disagree with the principal?

If the answers to those questions are yes, the school has a problem principal. The next question is what FCPS will do about it. Transfer her to a central headquarters job where she can do less harm, but still collect a paycheck? Transfer her to another school, where she can also collect a paycheck?

Or - perhaps - fire her? In the past, it seemed like incompetent FCPS administrators got moved around and even promoted, rather than fired. If the new superintendent can change that practice, she deserves a medal.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: whodat ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:00AM

Fairfax has had personnel problems for years. Both my parents were teachers, and my dad got caught drunk at school and all they did was transfer him from Herndon to kilmer.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Truther234 ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:48AM

Bogus Wrote:
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> ridiculous. If you look at Baileys profile you
> will see that since Principal Lemmon took over
> students testing and overall grade has gone up.
> That should say a lot. The fact that one of the
> teachers who is suing is using her child that is
> shameful and she has a PhD. I wonder when the
> truth comes out will still be talking?...hmmm

Test scores came up? That's good.

But the lawsuit said she only wanted to hire blondes. That's very bad.

How is one of the teachers that is suiing using her child? That sounds bad.

If there's more truth to come out, why don't you tell us what it is? get that truth out now!

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: jungle boogie ()
Date: October 22, 2014 08:59AM

Bogus Wrote:
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> This is for all the ignorant people who have
> commented negatively regarding this bogus lawsuit.
> For one I have worked at Baileys and I think it is
> so shameful for people who don't know the truth to
> be commenting. If you personally don't know the
> facts why put your two cents in it. Since
> Ms.Lemmon took over she has brought the school up
> to where it needed to be and I can attest to that
> from working there. I know this is a public forum
> but this is someone's job on the line. This person
> has a family and it's just disgraceful to see the
> absurd comments. It's especially disgusting to see
> comments from former colleagues. Shame on you. The
> fact that we are going to waste court systems time
> and tax payers dollars on this trump up lawsuit is
> ridiculous. If you look at Baileys profile you
> will see that since Principal Lemmon took over
> students testing and overall grade has gone up.
> That should say a lot. The fact that one of the
> teachers who is suing is using her child that is
> shameful and she has a PhD. I wonder when the
> truth comes out will still be talking?...hmmm


Are you a pretty blonde?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: jungle boogie ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:06AM

So the scores were up. I mean, that's good, but school is more than scores. If you see your principle acting like the allegations say, than you'll think its OK to do the same. You learn a lot more at school than the 3 R's. Look at the Asians, they are typically brilliant in school, but when you die in a car wreck b4 your25 Cruz you can't drive, than do your test scores matter?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Word on the street.. ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:10AM

She posts on ffxu as yucky24

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Worked with Her ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:24AM

The negative postings here are all by one lazy, hate-filled, anti-white racist. Don't believe any of her lies.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Worked with her too ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:54PM

Sorry, but, she has always been a bully. It's sad that someone would think it is okay to do the things she does to people. I understand she has a family, but she should have thought about that before she started stepping all over people to try to make a name for herself. Well, I guess she has some explaining to do now.

FCPS needs to protect their most valuable assets. Teachers and students. She does not look out for anyone but herself. Sad, sad situation that she keeps getting away with it.

What a disappointment for our school community.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Asst Principal ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:59PM

The lazy, incompetent teacher who keeps posting here under different names is the one who should be fired. Pathetic that such a loser would attack the person trying to clean up a mess.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: The truth is obvious ()
Date: October 22, 2014 10:39PM

I do not work for fcps and do not know any of the haracters in this drama.

I read the complaint and there is no friggin way that lawsuit goes anywhere.

No proof of incrimination whatsoever.

Principal is accused of bullying but no one else supports this allegation.

And news flash...just because a teacher has a degree and has taught for years, that alone does not make them competent.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Sam Morse ()
Date: October 22, 2014 11:10PM

Asst Principal Wrote:
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> The lazy, incompetent teacher who keeps posting
> here under different names is the one who should
> be fired.

The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy incompetent teacher's dog.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: wherethefhaveubeen ()
Date: October 23, 2014 01:09AM

On this lonely old blog alone there is corroboration of her discriminatory tactics.

I dont even know where to begin with this one......"No proof of incrimination whatsoever." is this some sort of freudian slip Lemmon?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: what mess ()
Date: October 23, 2014 12:28PM

What mess?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: WTNeH ()
Date: October 23, 2014 02:38PM

Here's Marie with one of her "pretty, young blondes"
Attachments:
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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: former devoted Bailey's teacher ()
Date: October 23, 2014 10:21PM

I'm not a plaintiff and I left Bailey's because of Marie Lemmon. Many teachers who were devoted to Bailey's left because of Marie Lemmon.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Comments ()
Date: October 23, 2014 10:33PM

That skirt is way too short for a teacher.

This teacher hiring pretty blondes??? Is she a lesbian?

If not why would she want to hire young inexperienced teachers?

Makes zero sense.

All these other people posting comments should be witnesses against this alleged monster, if not then shut up.

There is no proven discrimination in this complaint....none. I bet fcps asks for it to be tossed, it is without merit. Waste of taxpayer money to even defend it.

Shame on the press for giving it so much coverage.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: silly ()
Date: October 23, 2014 11:42PM

Its not a teacher, I think it's her AP....

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: openforum ()
Date: October 23, 2014 11:51PM

Hi all. Just wanted to let you know that I have a phone call scheduled with Fabio Zuluago, Asst. Supt. for our region, on Monday afternoon to discuss my concerns around all that it going on with Marie Lemmon. I would encourage all with concerns to contact him via phone or email. They need to know that parents are concerned about this and that we demand better for our children. I don't know a good way to get a message out to all parents, as we are not permitted to post anything on Big Tent, so word of (virtual) mouth seems to be the best way to go.

When I contacted him, I let him know that I was concerned that Fairfax County Public Schools has responded to this incident at all, as well as the fact that parents are not saying or doing anything because they fear how their kids will be treated during the school day. I have my own examples of her mistreatment and poor decision making that I will also share.

This seems to be a pattern of behavior with Ms. Lemmon and in such a wonderfully diverse community as ours, I just can't see how she is the right person to be leading our school, and quite frankly raises some serious concerns about other administrators who have been at Bailey's for some time.

Please feel free to contact me if you want to discuss, ask questions, share your own experience.

You can also become part of a new Yahoo group which we are hoping will be a place for more open discussion. Simply send an email with subscribe in the subject line to: baileysopenforum-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: hi ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:31AM

The blonde woman in the picture (with short skirt) is Nicole Yacubovich, an assistant principal At BES.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Good job media ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:14PM

I have nothing to do with this seemingly disaster of a principal, but I'm glad the media gave the story the coverage it deserves. Students and our community deserve better. Shame on her if she did all this stuff. Hard to believe this many would be upset if there wasn't some fire under this smoke.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: u don't understand how it works ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:21PM

"If not why would she want to hire young inexperienced teachers?

Makes zero sense."


It makes total sense.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Parentatbaileys ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:04PM

Thank you for standing up to her from a parent perspective.
Facts: she threw the SPED kids out of Immersion, a clear violation of IDEA! The Spanish speaking parents need a voice too. She treats Spanish kids like they are garbage. The parents know, but they are afraid to speak up for fear of retaliation.

I have also witnessed her yelling at teachers, pointing at them and rolling her eyes and walking off from conversations they want to have with her. Sure, a few like having her there...the chosen ones. But, look at her history at her previous school; issues. Current school: more of the same. She pretends that color doesn't matter to her, but skin color does matter to this lady. Just look at her hiring pattern. Sad for our kids that FCPS won't protect them from her.
Sad, just sad. Very disappointing. I plan to contact Fabio Z (h

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Lala land ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:47PM

What kind of bad weed are you guys smoking?

This school if FILLED with Hispanics.

They have Spanish immersion

There are Spanish speaking teachers at the school to deal with he demos.

Brown teachers. Brown students.

How the hell will you prove discrimination.

This lawsuit is going nowhere.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Reply ()
Date: October 27, 2014 08:56PM

She has tried to get rid of Spanish immersion and staff of various ethnicities.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: gettinitright ()
Date: October 28, 2014 05:26PM

I would say she has been pretty proficient....smh

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Trial Lawyer's Assoc. of Va. ()
Date: October 28, 2014 05:45PM

hotties Wrote:
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> Hot or not
>
> Was fat
> MarieLemmon.jpg
>
> Now kind of hot
> baileyses.jpg


No, not HOT. No longer fat, but still NOT HOT.

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Concerned Bailey's Parent ()
Date: October 30, 2014 04:31PM

New Washington Post article......


Fairfax seeks to dismiss teachers’ lawsuit alleging principal’s bias


By T. Rees Shapiro October 29 at 7:42 PM
Lawyers representing Fairfax County public schools filed motions to dismiss and split up a federal lawsuit against the school system and a principal who teachers allege discriminated against them based on religious affiliation, gender and race.

The case centers on the alleged actions of Bailey’s Elementary School Principal Marie Lemmon, who remains in charge of Bailey’s, which has 1,400 students and is the largest elementary school in the county. A former assistant principal, two former teachers and a student filed a lawsuit against the school system last month alleging that the principal treated them unfairly.

Rachel Charlton, a former assistant principal at Bailey’s, is Jewish and claims that while she was pregnant Lemmon treated her harshly. Former teachers Yolanda Calhoun and Shyrone Stith and J.C., a minor who attended Bailey’s, allege that Lemmon, who is white, discriminated against them because they are black.

The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court in Alexandria because Bailey’s receives federal Title I funding, as many of the school’s students qualify for free or reduced-price meals, a measure of poverty. The vast majority of the students are Hispanic and qualify for English as a second language training.

Charlton claims that Lemmon, who joined Bailey’s in 2012, insulted her for breast-feeding and limited her opportunities for promotion after she returned from maternity leave. Calhoun alleges that Lemmon replaced her on the staff with a younger and less-qualified white teacher, and Stith claims that the principal decided against hiring him for a permanent position because he would not fit in at the school as a black man. The teachers and the student are seeking compensatory and punitive damages from the school system.

Schools spokesman John Torre has said that the administration will not comment on the pending lawsuit, saying only that the school system “has a strict anti-discrimination policy and takes all allegations of discrimination very seriously.”

The two motions filed Oct. 24 — the first time the county has publicly opposed the allegations — ask for the court to dismiss the lawsuit and to sever the claims between Charlton and the other defendants. Attorneys for the county say that the lawsuit should be thrown out largely on a technicality: They say the teachers are suing the wrong entity.

The lawsuit was originally filed against Fairfax County public schools. But the county school system claims that the system itself cannot be sued. Instead, it is usually the Fairfax County School Board, the 12-member elected government body, that addresses such litigation.

The administration’s attorneys also say that even if the teachers had sued the correct entity, the School Board is immune from paying out punitive damages in federal cases.

The schools’ attorneys also seek to separate the claims made by Charlton, Calhoun, Stith and the student. The lawyers say that the defendants “involve differing issues of law and facts” and want the court to proceed on three separate claims, with Calhoun and the student’s remaining together, since the juvenile is Calhoun’s stepdaughter.

Lemmon has received positive reviews on teacher job satisfaction surveys and has been credited by administration leaders for assisting in a smooth transition to a new school building.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fairfax-seeks-to-dismiss-teachers-lawsuit-alleging-principals-bias/2014/10/29/1a6ba498-5fa2-11e4-8b9e-2ccdac31a031_story.html

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Juan Valdez ()
Date: October 30, 2014 07:55PM

Isn't Bailey's like over run by future landscapers and housekeepers? Who the fuck cares?

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Re: Marie Lemmon, Principal at Baileys sued by 4 people
Posted by: Ms. Lemmon's friend u are ()
Date: October 30, 2014 08:42PM

"Isn't Bailey's like over run by future landscapers and housekeepers? Who the fuck cares?"

I guess Ms. Lemmon agrees with you.

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