how can diplomat's personal car get away with doing well over 100mph on
eastbound I-66 and not get tickets? observed almost every other day
near mile marker 58.2

Diplomatic Immunity

Diplomats can be issued traffic tickets.

Those f'ers get away with murder. They never pay their parking tickets and we allow this reciporical agreement to keep our dips out of Third World dungeons for violating thier laws or customs.

I've always said we should

1) restrict the movement of diplomatic STAFF ( not the ambassadors or dips themselves) from offending nations to inside the Beltway in D.C and inside Manhattan for the U.N ers

2) force them to hire local livery drivers and help the economy

3) require the shit countries powers that be to post a bond of some sort to be used to pay traffic fines etc. It would be refundable when they leave the U.S

There's no reason to change anything. The police can ticket diplomats and consular staff. Probably 99.9% of them respect and obey the law, and the State Department has every right to declare persona-non-grata status to ones who don't.

corbena Wrote:
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> how can diplomat's personal car get away with
> doing well over 100mph on
> eastbound I-66 and not get tickets? observed
> almost every other day
> near mile marker 58.2

State does the persona non-grata thing but it doesn't get the tickets paid and the local jurisidctions have to eat the costs.There is little incentive to behave when you won't be financially penalized and if you are only here for a year, who cares if they suspend your license.

It's usually low end employees (the security thugs/spys) that make the trouble. The high level diplomats and ambassadors are for the most part behaved.

Well our diplomatic staff in other countries misbehave and break laws too, and that's exactly why you see State turn their head on minor stuff like tickets. It's a quid pro quo for stuff we don't read about in the papers.



WingNut Wrote:
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> State does the persona non-grata thing but it
> doesn't get the tickets paid and the local
> jurisidctions have to eat the costs.There is
> little incentive to behave when you won't be
> financially penalized and if you are only here for
> a year, who cares if they suspend your license.
>
> It's usually low end employees (the security
> thugs/spys) that make the trouble. The high level
> diplomats and ambassadors are for the most part
> behaved.

even if/when they get tickets, they would just post on here "Diplomat who got reckless ticket-how do I get out of it" or something like that...who cares....

whocares Wrote:
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> even if/when they get tickets, they would just
> post on here "Diplomat who got reckless ticket-how
> do I get out of it" or something like that...who
> cares....


No it would read :"Anybody know a good lawyer in Fairfax that speaks Russian?""
again, who cares

I think most of them try to behave because if they majorly fuck up, their Country will send them home, which doesn't look good in the ole personnel file. Plus, a lot of them are from shithole Countries and they like it here.

Remember the diplomat from Georgia (Russia) that got drunked up and killed somebody with his car in DC? They shipped his ass home in a hurry...allegedly to serve his jail term there (yeah, right).

tubby Wrote:
>>> They shipped his ass home in a hurry...allegedly to serve his jail term there
(yeah, right).


He actually spent 3 years in prison right here in the US. After that, they sent him back to the Georgian Republic to serve the rest of his sentence- and according to the article I read, the prisons over there were really nasty relative to the US prisons. Like bread-and-water type conditions without heat.

WingNut Wrote:
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> State does the persona non-grata thing but it
> doesn't get the tickets paid and the local
> jurisidctions have to eat the costs.There is
> little incentive to behave when you won't be
> financially penalized and if you are only here for
> a year, who cares if they suspend your license.
>
> It's usually low end employees (the security
> thugs/spys) that make the trouble. The high level
> diplomats and ambassadors are for the most part
> behaved.

What exactly are the costs of writing a traffic ticket that these local jurisdictions are going to be stuck with?