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FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: fcps keeps going down ()
Date: September 16, 2014 04:54PM

One hundred and seventy one—or 89 percent—of the 192 schools in Fairfax County Public Schools (FCPS) have earned full accreditation from the Virginia Department of Education (VDOE) for 2014-15 based on student achievement data from 2013-14. The accreditation statuses of one center and three alternative high schools are still to be determined based on the alternative accreditation plan data submitted to VDOE.

Ninety-four percent of schools in FCPS were fully accredited for 2013 and 100 percent for 2012.

Mirroring the state results, the percentage of schools meeting state accreditation standards declined for a second consecutive year as a consequence of the more rigorous reading, writing, science, and mathematics Standards of Learning (SOL) tests.

Three schools—Crestwood Elementary, Hybla Valley Elementary, and Glasgow Middle—earned full accreditation this year after being accredited with warning last year.

For a school to earn full accreditation, at least 75 percent of students must pass reading and writing SOL tests, and at least 70 percent must pass state assessments in mathematics, science, and history. High schools must also meet a benchmark for graduation and completion.

Accreditation ratings also may reflect credit earned by schools that successfully help students who failed reading or mathematics tests during the previous year, and adjustments also may be made for students with limited English proficiency and for students who have recently transferred into a Virginia public school.

Accreditation ratings for 2014 and updated online report cards for all schools and school divisions are available on the VDOE website.
Under a flexibility waiver granted by the U.S. Department of Education, supports and interventions under the federal Elementary and Secondary Education Act—also known since 2001 as No Child Left Behind (NCLB)—are focused on the lowest-performing Title I schools. These schools are identified as either Priority or Focus schools. Like state accreditation ratings, the federal designations are based on achievement on SOL tests during 2013-14. No FCPS schools have been identified as Priority Schools under these guidelines.
Focus schools comprise 10 percent of Title I schools statewide and are selected on the basis of achievement gaps. Focus schools retain their designation for a minimum of two years unless they are subsequently identified as Priority schools or no longer receive federal Title I funding. The following schools in FCPS have been designated as Focus Schools: Annandale Terrace Elementary, Bailey's Elementary School for the Arts and Sciences, Herndon Elementary, Hutchison Elementary, Sleepy Hollow Elementary, and Woodley Hills Elementary.
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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: tgb ()
Date: September 16, 2014 06:39PM

So which school district then would be considered #1? I'm just curious.

What you posted says the tests got tougher:

Mirroring the state results, the percentage of schools meeting state accreditation standards declined for a second consecutive year as a consequence of the more rigorous reading, writing, science, and mathematics Standards of Learning (SOL) tests.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Fairfax Bob ()
Date: September 16, 2014 06:40PM

I went to Annandale Terrace Elementary 1st thru 6th grade. Go Cougars! Sadly these days it's just a shadow of its former self. Full of illegal alien kids who don't even speak English, hence it now being a "focus school" and one of the lowest performing schools.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Satisfied Customer ()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:33PM

Eight of the top 10 high schools in Virginia are in Fairfax County.

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/virginia

Sorry that people who bought cheap properties in Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads didn't realize they were buying cheap properties in Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Questioner ()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:45PM

So FCPS, teachers, and students spent enormous amounts of time and money. Did we really learned anything? Are there any schools that earned accreditation that anyone thought were really poor schools? Are there any schools that did not that anyone expected high scores from?

These standardized tests are really an exercise in nothingness.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: fcps keeps going down ()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:51PM

Questioner Wrote:
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> So FCPS, teachers, and students spent enormous
> amounts of time and money. Did we really learned
> anything? Are there any schools that earned
> accreditation that anyone thought were really poor
> schools? Are there any schools that did not that
> anyone expected high scores from?
>
> These standardized tests are really an exercise in
> nothingness.

AMEN FCPS is not that good

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: bill shockley ()
Date: September 16, 2014 11:35PM

Satisfied Customer Wrote:
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> Eight of the top 10 high schools in Virginia are
> in Fairfax County.
>
> http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/
> virginia
>
> Sorry that people who bought cheap properties in
> Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads didn't
> realize they were buying cheap properties in Mount
> Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads.


People in those areas couldn't care less about schools or education. They just want their Obama freebies.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: false study ()
Date: September 17, 2014 07:17AM

best hs lolz

all that ranking is is total number of AP tests taken

FCPS pushes everyone to take the test

A real measure would be the scores on the test

And I agree with prior poster schools don't do much. If you are wealthy going in you will be "smart" and if you are poor going in you will be "dumb" It's been that way for decades. FCPS has nothing to do with the results

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: libs hate America. ()
Date: September 17, 2014 07:30AM

Public schools only teach for the tests. They don't care about the kids and neither do any of the parents that subject their child to public school.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: street acred ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:10AM

So some schools had less than 75 cent of students pass reading and writing or less than 70 percent mathematics, science, and history. When taking all students all schools together, it could have been a higher figure than the year before. Curious why they lump American history in with math and science?

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: The 90's called, ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:15AM

to remind everyone of FCPS heyday. Since then, well....

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: never any question ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:53AM

tgb Wrote:
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> So which school district then would be considered
> #1? I'm just curious.

Falls Church.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Hombre ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:55AM

The 90's called, Wrote:
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> to remind everyone of FCPS heyday. Since then,
> well....


Que?

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Hocus Pocus ()
Date: September 17, 2014 11:36AM

More Wastefull spending is in FOCUS

Close the border

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: FORMER MV'ER ()
Date: September 17, 2014 01:42PM

Satisfied Customer Wrote:
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> Eight of the top 10 high schools in Virginia are
> in Fairfax County.
>
> http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/
> virginia
>
> Sorry that people who bought cheap properties in
> Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads didn't
> realize they were buying cheap properties in Mount
> Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads.


Back in the day(1980's) Mount Vernon was expensive to live in. Was a great quiet place to live. It's unbelievable how it went down hill.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Mustnotstang ()
Date: September 17, 2014 03:58PM

never any question Wrote:
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> tgb Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > So which school district then would be
> considered
> > #1? I'm just curious.
>
> Falls Church.

Falls Church City?

Gimme a break. It's A League white fuckboy shit. Always really big news when the George Mason Mustangs beat the Depressed CoalTown Methheads or the Dumptruck County Hillbillies at some random sport every other year.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: NvCpu ()
Date: September 17, 2014 04:04PM

It's an oldy, but I think sums up the hypocrisy of FCPS - these are from the FCPS press releases at the time:

August 27, 2008 - Made AYP

“The scores also demonstrate that achievement gaps between White and Black students and White and Hispanic students are narrowing.... "
August 13, 2009 - Made AYP

“When you see upward trends of improvement in both math and reading and narrowing of achievement gaps in all subgroups, you have to conclude that FCPS’ focus on the individual child is paying dividends..."

August 12, 2010 - Made AYP (didn't bother to edit the release much that year)

"These upward trends of improvement and narrowing of achievement gaps reflect FCPS’ focus on the individual child..... "

August 13, 2011 - Failed AYP

“Fairfax County Public Schools no longer considers Adequate Yearly Progress a true measure of our students’ achievement...."

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: what does it mean? ()
Date: September 17, 2014 04:50PM

It never was "number 1". It was pretty good and maybe even very good, but who knows what "number 1" even means in education. The truth is that it was probably in the upper 25% of all school divisions (in the US) as far as test scores go, but now it's closer to the 50% mark as far as all school divisions go. Now if you are comparing it to only big school divisions, it is probably still in the upper 25%.

There are many small, public school divisions in this country that are very, very good as far as scores (like SATs) go.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: never any question ()
Date: September 17, 2014 04:54PM

Mustnotstang Wrote:
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> never any question Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tgb Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > So which school district then would be
> > considered
> > > #1? I'm just curious.
> >
> > Falls Church.
>
> Falls Church City?
>
> Gimme a break. It's A League white fuckboy shit.
> Always really big news when the George Mason
> Mustangs beat the Depressed CoalTown Methheads or
> the Dumptruck County Hillbillies at some random
> sport every other year.


You MUST be a product of the Fairfax Public School System.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: fly away ()
Date: September 17, 2014 05:08PM

what does it mean? Wrote:
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> It never was "number 1". It was pretty good and
> maybe even very good, but who knows what "number
> 1" even means in education.

It was really good when Fairfax County was wealthier and not overrun with illegals. FCPS has been taking credit for the spawn of the highly educated populace for years. Now those folks are either headed to Loudoun for the true suburban experience or into Arlington/DC for a more urban, car free existence. Fairfax is stuck in the middle. Housing values are stuck in neutral in Fairfax while rising all around it. Fairfax and FCPS are looking mighty played out. It's slow motion flight of the wealthy and educated (and their students) that is killing FCPS.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: and ()
Date: September 17, 2014 06:05PM

^ It's also the result of a lower birth rate among the educated (which stems partly from the fact that they are not as wealthy, coming out of college with debt, having a harder time getting jobs that pay well, etc.). Immigration is keeping the population from declining. The student population is poorer and comes with more "issues" now.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: News Flash ()
Date: September 17, 2014 08:52PM

fly away Wrote:
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> what does it mean? Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It never was "number 1". It was pretty good
> and
> > maybe even very good, but who knows what
> "number
> > 1" even means in education.
>
> It was really good when Fairfax County was
> wealthier and not overrun with illegals. FCPS has
> been taking credit for the spawn of the highly
> educated populace for years. Now those folks are
> either headed to Loudoun for the true suburban
> experience or into Arlington/DC for a more urban,
> car free existence. Fairfax is stuck in the
> middle. Housing values are stuck in neutral in
> Fairfax while rising all around it. Fairfax and
> FCPS are looking mighty played out. It's slow
> motion flight of the wealthy and educated (and
> their students) that is killing FCPS.

Do you make this shit up? Take a look at the $600K houses getting replaced with $1-2 million houses all over Falls Church, McLean and Vienna. Or all the new construction in Springfield, Merrifield, Tysons. And a few nice blocks in Great Falls are probably worth more than all the cookie-cutter subdivisions in Ashburn combined.

You may be stuck in the middle, lots of places in the county have been going higher and higher, sad sack.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: It's The Assholes Again ()
Date: September 17, 2014 11:48PM

Stupid right-wing fucktards talk big, but don't know shit.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: fly away ()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:32AM

News Flash Wrote:
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>
> Do you make this shit up? Take a look at the
> $600K houses getting replaced with $1-2 million
> houses all over Falls Church, McLean and Vienna.

A few individual sales or pockets don't make a market - Fairfax is 1.1M people and huge market.

Fairfax is doing significantly worse than Arlington and Loudoun - home prices dropped 2% in FFX year over year, while rising 7% in Loudon and 6% in Arlington. Inventory and Days on Market are up across the board, but Fairfax is the only NoVA county losing on the sales price. People are seeing Fairfax and FCPS for what it is NOW and voting with their feet.

Fairfax had its day - but the old girl ain't what she used to be. Especially FCPS. That's the beautiful thing about the market - millions of individuals making decisions for themselves based on their experience in the county. I think the stats tell you everything you need to know.

http://newsroom.longandfoster.com/news/median-sale-price-increased-many-areas-northern-virginia-july-2014/

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: News Flash ()
Date: September 18, 2014 11:11AM

fly away Wrote:
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> News Flash Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > Do you make this shit up? Take a look at the
> > $600K houses getting replaced with $1-2 million
> > houses all over Falls Church, McLean and Vienna.
>
>
> A few individual sales or pockets don't make a
> market - Fairfax is 1.1M people and huge market.
>
> Fairfax is doing significantly worse than
> Arlington and Loudoun - home prices dropped 2% in
> FFX year over year, while rising 7% in Loudon and
> 6% in Arlington. Inventory and Days on Market are
> up across the board, but Fairfax is the only NoVA
> county losing on the sales price. People are
> seeing Fairfax and FCPS for what it is NOW and
> voting with their feet.
>
> Fairfax had its day - but the old girl ain't what
> she used to be. Especially FCPS. That's the
> beautiful thing about the market - millions of
> individuals making decisions for themselves based
> on their experience in the county. I think the
> stats tell you everything you need to know.
>
> http://newsroom.longandfoster.com/news/median-sale
> -price-increased-many-areas-northern-virginia-july
> -2014/

That's data for one month, nimrod. Only an idiot draws broad conclusions from one month's real estate sales data. For 2014 to date, Fairfax is up over 2013, and 2013 was up over 2012.

Fairfax $474,900 $480,000 -1.1% $460,000 $458,000 +0.4%

Smart people in Fairfax have more equity in their homes than a dumb shit like you will earn in your life. Have fun in South Riding, dope.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: fly away ()
Date: September 18, 2014 02:34PM

News Flash Wrote:
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>
> That's data for one month, nimrod. Only an idiot
> draws broad conclusions from one month's real
> estate sales data. For 2014 to date, Fairfax is
> up over 2013, and 2013 was up over 2012.
>
> Fairfax $474,900 $480,000 -1.1% $460,000 $458,000
> +0.4%

Well, it's YoY data, not just one month, but I'd see how you'd get confused by that. But thanks for making my point - DC Metro is up 6.9% in the last year, FFX is up 0.4%.

Enjoy the dead money in your equity.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: News Flash ()
Date: September 18, 2014 03:37PM

fly away Wrote:
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> News Flash Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > That's data for one month, nimrod. Only an
> idiot
> > draws broad conclusions from one month's real
> > estate sales data. For 2014 to date, Fairfax
> is
> > up over 2013, and 2013 was up over 2012.
> >
> > Fairfax $474,900 $480,000 -1.1% $460,000
> $458,000
> > +0.4%
>
> Well, it's YoY data, not just one month, but I'd
> see how you'd get confused by that. But thanks
> for making my point - DC Metro is up 6.9% in the
> last year, FFX is up 0.4%.
>
> Enjoy the dead money in your equity.

It's YoY for a single month, so indicative of very little.

More million-dollar sales in 2014 in GF and McLean than all of Arlington. Toss in Vienna and it's a landslide. And there's very little that goes for a million or more in Ashburn or anywhere else in Loudoun.

Fairfax still rules, regardless of how many god-awful chains open in Clarendon or how many Toll Brothers houses get built in Loudoun miles from anything. But places like that are where deadbeats like you belong.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Beware the Assholes ()
Date: September 18, 2014 03:59PM

You know who they are -- the ones who tell you good is bad and smart is dumb. Fairfax is falling, the Silver Line is a failure, the coming financial crisis will swallow up everyone. The only hope is to move to the boonies and buy gold from Glenn Beck. What a bunch of worthless fucking assholes.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: hardtruthburns ()
Date: September 18, 2014 04:09PM

Satisfied Customer Wrote:
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> Eight of the top 10 high schools in Virginia are
> in Fairfax County.
>
> http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/
> virginia
>
> Sorry that people who bought cheap properties in
> Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads didn't
> realize they were buying cheap properties in Mount
> Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads.


All the schools that ranked high are mainly white and Indian/Asian student body.

Let's face it, if kids can't speak English and their parents cut grass then come home and drink Corona all night and won't instill value in education the schools can't fix that. Throwing money at a problem that doesn't want to be fixed won't ever change anything.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Demographer ()
Date: September 20, 2014 11:39AM

hardtruthburns Wrote:
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> Satisfied Customer Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Eight of the top 10 high schools in Virginia
> are
> > in Fairfax County.
> >
> >
> http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/
>
> > virginia
> >
> > Sorry that people who bought cheap properties
> in
> > Mount Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads didn't
> > realize they were buying cheap properties in
> Mount
> > Vernon and Bailey's Crossroads.
>
>
> All the schools that ranked high are mainly white
> and Indian/Asian student body.
>
> Let's face it, if kids can't speak English and
> their parents cut grass then come home and drink
> Corona all night and won't instill value in
> education the schools can't fix that. Throwing
> money at a problem that doesn't want to be fixed
> won't ever change anything.

Fairfax is over 70% non-Hispanic white and Asian so of course it has a lot of schools that are mainly white and Asian.

As for the Hispanics, most of them work a hell of a lot harder than you ever will, asshat.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: can they do real work? ()
Date: September 20, 2014 11:55AM

"More million-dollar sales in 2014 in GF and McLean than all of Arlington. Toss in Vienna and it's a landslide. And there's very little that goes for a million or more in Ashburn or anywhere else in Loudoun."


Yes, and the people in these homes often don't produce the most socially functional hardworking children. You'd be surprised. You might be better off among the 500K Ashburn crowd.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: goodvalue ()
Date: September 20, 2014 12:09PM

For those students that are smart and willing to work FCPS is outstanding. I was talking to a parent whose kid is a Freshman at VT. His advanced work in FCPS allowed him to test out of Physics and several other difficult classes. If you work hard the opportunity to do college level work in HS is there in the good HS not just TJ.

As to the ESOL problem my kids are in the GT program so those problems vanished in 3rd grade when they entered Level IV services. The kids that enter GT with limited English are fluent in English in about 8 months (yes they are always of Asian origin).

As an aside, we had a sitter from Columbia for the kids when they were little - only spoke Spanish. 13 years later and she STILL barely speaks a word.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Redskins Left Me ()
Date: September 20, 2014 06:23PM

can they do real work? Wrote:
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> "More million-dollar sales in 2014 in GF and
> McLean than all of Arlington. Toss in Vienna and
> it's a landslide. And there's very little that
> goes for a million or more in Ashburn or anywhere
> else in Loudoun."
>
>
> Yes, and the people in these homes often don't
> produce the most socially functional hardworking
> children. You'd be surprised. You might be
> better off among the 500K Ashburn crowd.

Yeah, living in cookie-cutter subdivisions and getting stuck in traffic at least two hours every day is definitely the way to raise productive kids. Ashburn is so awesome.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: SAT SCORES ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:08PM

FCPS is bad? The 2014 SAT scores are 1668, up 5 points from last year. That is WAY above the national average with a high participation rate of 75% (compared to 52% nationally).

I am so tired of hearing all of this empty rhetoric by assholes who think FCPS is the worst school district to ever exist. You people have absolutely no appreciation for public education. I'm going to bet these are the same people who send their kids to parochial school and vote to keep their christian god in schools. God forbid these people send their kids to school with a muslim student.

So far no one has really given any real examples of how FCPS is a bad school district. So far I have heard complaining about immigration, the diversity, and missing AYP. But no one is putting any of it into context; is everyone on FFX Underground in 6th grade? Until I hear some real examples I am calling BS on all of you.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:14PM

SAT SCORES Wrote:
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> I am so tired of hearing all of this empty
> rhetoric by assholes who think FCPS is the worst
> school district to ever exist. You people have
> absolutely no appreciation for public education.
> I'm going to bet these are the same people who
> send their kids to parochial school and vote to
> keep their christian god in schools. God forbid
> these people send their kids to school with a
> muslim student.

While I agree with your sentiment I must reject your random speculation. On the contrary I suspect the majority of the FCPS bashers on FFXU are substance-abusing high school kids who are under-performing due to lack of motivation and no oversight from their workaholic parents.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: It speaks for itself ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:36PM

News Flash Wrote:
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> fly away Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > News Flash Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > That's data for one month, nimrod. Only an
> > idiot
> > > draws broad conclusions from one month's real
> > > estate sales data. For 2014 to date, Fairfax
> > is
> > > up over 2013, and 2013 was up over 2012.
> > >
> > > Fairfax $474,900 $480,000 -1.1% $460,000
> > $458,000
> > > +0.4%
> >
> > Well, it's YoY data, not just one month, but
> I'd
> > see how you'd get confused by that. But thanks
> > for making my point - DC Metro is up 6.9% in
> the
> > last year, FFX is up 0.4%.
> >
> > Enjoy the dead money in your equity.
>
> It's YoY for a single month, so indicative of very
> little.
>
> More million-dollar sales in 2014 in GF and McLean
> than all of Arlington. Toss in Vienna and it's a
> landslide. And there's very little that goes for
> a million or more in Ashburn or anywhere else in
> Loudoun.
>
> Fairfax still rules, regardless of how many
> god-awful chains open in Clarendon or how many
> Toll Brothers houses get built in Loudoun miles
> from anything. But places like that are where
> deadbeats like you belong.


I remember back in the late 80s when Centreville and Chantilly were the "South Ridings" and "Ashburns" of today. Far out, not a lot of infrastructure and low crime. That was 20 years ago.

Now look at Centreville and Chantilly now. Who the fuck would pay for old, shitty homes in a lower class community with old homes and high crime?

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: PSA2 ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:48PM

It speaks for itself Wrote:
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> News Flash Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > fly away Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > News Flash Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > >
> > > > That's data for one month, nimrod. Only an
> > > idiot
> > > > draws broad conclusions from one month's
> real
> > > > estate sales data. For 2014 to date,
> Fairfax
> > > is
> > > > up over 2013, and 2013 was up over 2012.
>
> > > >
> > > > Fairfax $474,900 $480,000 -1.1% $460,000
> > > $458,000
> > > > +0.4%
> > >
> > > Well, it's YoY data, not just one month, but
> > I'd
> > > see how you'd get confused by that. But
> thanks
> > > for making my point - DC Metro is up 6.9% in
> > the
> > > last year, FFX is up 0.4%.
> > >
> > > Enjoy the dead money in your equity.
> >
> > It's YoY for a single month, so indicative of
> very
> > little.
> >
> > More million-dollar sales in 2014 in GF and
> McLean
> > than all of Arlington. Toss in Vienna and it's
> a
> > landslide. And there's very little that goes
> for
> > a million or more in Ashburn or anywhere else
> in
> > Loudoun.
> >
> > Fairfax still rules, regardless of how many
> > god-awful chains open in Clarendon or how many
> > Toll Brothers houses get built in Loudoun miles
> > from anything. But places like that are where
> > deadbeats like you belong.
>
>
> I remember back in the late 80s when Centreville
> and Chantilly were the "South Ridings" and
> "Ashburns" of today. Far out, not a lot of
> infrastructure and low crime. That was 20 years
> ago.
>
> Now look at Centreville and Chantilly now. Who
> the fuck would pay for old, shitty homes in a
> lower class community with old homes and high
> crime?

South Riding is the absolute pits. Utter traffic hell. Ashburn is cookie-cutter garbage. Centreville and Chantilly at least get you closer to civilization.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Are you for real? ()
Date: October 09, 2014 11:00PM

> Now look at Centreville and Chantilly now. Who
> the fuck would pay for old, shitty homes in a
> lower class community with old homes and high
> crime?

I honestly cannot tell if you are being serious. First of all learn how to write...

"old, shitty homes in a lower class community with old homes and high crime"

Are you for real? You mention the old homes twice. Are you really that stupid? And high crime? are you kidding me? I have honestly never heard of crime in those areas. You cannot write and you cannot back up anything that you say. Okay little girl I think its time to go back and find mommy.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Greenbriar/west = old homes ()
Date: October 09, 2014 11:11PM

Yeah. They're old. Deal with reality, numfuq.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Numbers game ()
Date: October 09, 2014 11:14PM

I stopped paying to fcps propaganda years ago. AYP, accreditation, percent advanced, it's all CRAP.

Every year Richmond does whatever they need to do so that most schools can look good.

You guys do know that blacks and Hispanics have lower standards imposed on them before they count them as accredited, right?

Without that and all th alternative testing, it would look a lot worse, trust me.

And for the sucker who thinks sat cores have gone up. Haha. Look at participation rates and how many kids take ACTs instead.

FC will never be what it sed to be...ever again....private schools will thrive here. Get ready.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: October 09, 2014 11:28PM

Numbers game Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I stopped paying to fcps propaganda years ago.
> AYP, accreditation, percent advanced, it's all
> CRAP.
>
> Every year Richmond does whatever they need to do
> so that most schools can look good.
>
> You guys do know that blacks and Hispanics have
> lower standards imposed on them before they count
> them as accredited, right?
>
> Without that and all th alternative testing, it
> would look a lot worse, trust me.
>
> And for the sucker who thinks sat cores have gone
> up. Haha. Look at participation rates and how many
> kids take ACTs instead.
>
> FC will never be what it sed to be...ever
> again....private schools will thrive here. Get
> ready.

Yep, more empty rhetoric from stupid people. The participation rate on the 2014 SAT was 75%. I stated that above, but I guess you were not paying attention. Private schools can shove it. I can understand sending your kids to private schools if you lived in a bad school district like Prince George's County, but Fairfax is exceptional even compared to private schools. So if you want to waste your money, please be my guest.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: what it takes ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:33AM

^I think it's hard to paint such a large district one way or another. There are some very good schools with excellent teachers. Then there are good schools with "hit or miss" teachers and principals. Notice how I'm not mentioning the "curriculum and standardized tests". Those don't make much difference. The schools are good because of the staff and once they can't recruit good staff, then we're doomed. The demographics make some difference, but as long as there are enough trained and well educated staff members to deal with student differences, we'll be fine. If that becomes a problem, then yes, we will not be doing so well.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: FCPS #1 - in the 90s ()
Date: October 10, 2014 09:08AM

20 years ago. Today, it's just another largely overbloated school district, nothing more.

Hell, a half century ago LA schools were held up nationally as a model. Change happens. Deal with that fact.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: slide does happen . . . ()
Date: October 10, 2014 09:16AM

^Well, I have to agree with that. In the 60's and 70's California was considered the #1 state for education. Now they might be last or close to it. Change does happen fast.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: FCPS IS STILL TOPS ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:41AM

Numbers game Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> I stopped paying to fcps propaganda years ago.
> AYP, accreditation, percent advanced, it's all
> CRAP.
>
> Every year Richmond does whatever they need to do
> so that most schools can look good.
>
> You guys do know that blacks and Hispanics have
> lower standards imposed on them before they count
> them as accredited, right?
>
> Without that and all th alternative testing, it
> would look a lot worse, trust me.
>
> And for the sucker who thinks sat cores have gone
> up. Haha. Look at participation rates and how many
> kids take ACTs instead.
>
> FC will never be what it sed to be...ever
> again....private schools will thrive here. Get
> ready.

Flint Hill is for kids who get tossed out of Oakton and Madison, or need special help. Stop leading with your chin, you putz. FCPS is still the top system in the region, which is pretty good when you consider there are wankers like you around.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:43AM

People who think FCPS is bad clearly have not had experience with schools in other places. I have family members in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and California - includes a dozen kids in elementary/middle/high schools and several teachers. FCPS is absolutely on par with the best PA and CA public schools and way way better than NC.

Folks, what you are complaining about in FCPS schools is not unique to FCPS - it's happening everywhere.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: slope ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:03AM

"Folks, what you are complaining about in FCPS schools is not unique to FCPS - it's happening everywhere."


This. The decline is happening in many places. We need to be asking why this is happening. My theory is that when control is taken away from localities, the schools decline. The object of all the state and federal control, testing, etc. was to improve the lower scoring schools. However, a consequence (intended or not) was to degrade other schools (and it doesn't seem that the lower scoring schools have improved anyway). Mediocrity was created. It's not that we're bad; it's that we're not as good as we were. It's good that so many people want good schools and that they become disappointed when they see things declining. This is a good series if you have time to watch it on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtAdJi1AjQ

America can do better than this! Shameful.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: demographics ()
Date: October 10, 2014 12:39PM

duh

Whites and Asians are doing perfectly fine

Its the hispanics that are dragging down scores there are more and more of them every year

http://www.fcps.edu/it/studentreporting/documents/EthnicRpt13.pdf

Page 4 is all you need to know

1993 8.5% Latino

2014 23.6% Latino

This is occuring nationally not just here

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Bill.N. ()
Date: October 10, 2014 01:31PM

What made the public education system work was its ability to address the educational needs of the typical students. However in recent decades far more emphasis has been placed on providing additional benefits to those students at the top and bottom. The programs for these students has not only diverted resources away from the education of the typical students, it has placed additional burdens on those typical students and those teaching them. Further the creation of more programs for top students and lower performing students has created a greater demand both for additional students to be admitted to these programs, and for yet more programs to be offered for these students.

No Child Left Behind was certainly the worst example of this type of policy, but there have been many others over the year, many of which have been initiated by local or by state school authorities.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: +1 to Bill N. ()
Date: October 10, 2014 01:51PM

" Further the creation of more programs for top students and lower performing students has created a greater demand both for additional students to be admitted to these programs, and for yet more programs to be offered for these students."


There is a lot of truth to this. We have 20% of students in AAP and another 15-20% in SpEd (or IEP services). Then we have 35% in ESOL or limited English related classes. Nobody pays attention to the "typical" kid. Back in the day it was all about the typical kid.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Honestly ()
Date: October 11, 2014 12:08AM

slope Wrote:
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> "Folks, what you are complaining about in FCPS
> schools is not unique to FCPS - it's happening
> everywhere."
>
>
> This. The decline is happening in many places.
> We need to be asking why this is happening. My
> theory is that when control is taken away from
> localities, the schools decline. The object of
> all the state and federal control, testing, etc.
> was to improve the lower scoring schools.
> However, a consequence (intended or not) was to
> degrade other schools (and it doesn't seem that
> the lower scoring schools have improved anyway).
> Mediocrity was created. It's not that we're bad;
> it's that we're not as good as we were. It's good
> that so many people want good schools and that
> they become disappointed when they see things
> declining. This is a good series if you have time
> to watch it on youtube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtAdJi1AjQ
>
> America can do better than this! Shameful.


True. The U.S. would be much better off if we eliminated the Department of Education and phased out federal funding for local schools.

The federal government spent almost no money on public schools before the 1960s. Schools then were far from perfect but certainly better than today.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: slope ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:32PM

^I would say that it's a matter of balance. The federal government has gone too far. That's probably been since about the year 2000. NCLB has not been a positive. The testing has not worked like they hoped it would.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: October 12, 2014 12:48PM

> The federal government spent almost no money on
> public schools before the 1960s. Schools then were
> far from perfect but certainly better than today.


I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree that the schools were better back in the 1960s. Today's students are taking harder classes (multiple AP classes/IB classes) and are graduating at higher levels than the 1960s. They are now even offering Computer Science classes in high schools, which is impressive to me personally. I think students today are better prepared for college than what they ever have been previously.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: si ()
Date: October 12, 2014 01:05PM

"I'm sorry but I respectfully disagree that the schools were better back in the 1960s. Today's students are taking harder classes (multiple AP classes/IB classes) and are graduating at higher levels than the 1960s. They are now even offering Computer Science classes in high schools, which is impressive to me personally. I think students today are better prepared for college than what they ever have been previously."

Yes, but those changes were not the result of NCLB or the feds. Federal money is not spent on AP classes or Computer Science classes.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: federal money ()
Date: October 12, 2014 01:16PM

The lion's share of the Deparment of Education (federal) funds go to Title 1 (which are funds for poverty area schools), IDEA (funds for children with disabilites), and immigrant students (English language learners). There is also some IMPACT aid (students whose parents are in the military). NCLB is another part (testing accountability funds). These things take up most of the money.

This is why you see a lot of money spent in SpEd and ESOL and Title 1 areas. It's because they have extra money coming in from the feds and they are federally mandated to spend on these areas. Yes, these funds have made schools much better, especially for these populations.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 12, 2014 01:32PM

demographics Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> duh
>
> Whites and Asians are doing perfectly fine
>
> Its the hispanics that are dragging down scores
> there are more and more of them every year
>
> http://www.fcps.edu/it/studentreporting/documents/
> EthnicRpt13.pdf
>
> Page 4 is all you need to know
>
> 1993 8.5% Latino
>
> 2014 23.6% Latino
>
> This is occuring nationally not just here

This is why there is a need to eliminate those "pockets of excellence."

The move will ...promote a more equal distribution of resources to eliminate “pockets of excellence,” said one school official who had been briefed on the plan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/garza-to-announce-shake-up-in-fairfax-schools-administration/2014/05/16/6f7e6e8c-dcc3-11e3-8009-71de85b9c527_story.html

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: The Human League ()
Date: October 12, 2014 01:49PM

Assume they were to redistrict all of the high schools so that the rate of free and reduced lunch is relatively equal across all schools. That will not lower the quality of the education, or the quality of the schools. It is probably a good idea, so that students can have a more worldly and diverse education. In fact, some of the lower scoring schools, such as Stuart have among the highest participation rates for AP/IB classes, which is really quite amazing.

The problem I see is that some parents (mostly from wealthier families) may take their kids out of FCPS and move to private schools. Which may hinder overall test scores for a while before everyone becomes acclimated to the new boundaries. It would definitely make people upset if they moved to a certain neighborhood only to be redistricted to a supposedly worse school.

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: why? ()
Date: October 12, 2014 03:03PM

"Assume they were to redistrict all of the high schools so that the rate of free and reduced lunch is relatively equal across all schools. That will not lower the quality of the education, or the quality of the schools. It is probably a good idea, so that students can have a more worldly and diverse education. In fact, some of the lower scoring schools, such as Stuart have among the highest participation rates for AP/IB classes, which is really quite amazing.

The problem I see is that some parents (mostly from wealthier families) may take their kids out of FCPS and move to private schools. Which may hinder overall test scores for a while before everyone becomes acclimated to the new boundaries. It would definitely make people upset if they moved to a certain neighborhood only to be redistricted to a supposedly worse school."


All of this so that "students can have a more worldly and diverse education"? How is that metric measured? Are they not getting a "worldly and diverse" education now? Maybe they could take field trips to other parts of the world?

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Re: FCPS is no longer number 1
Posted by: Segregation thrives ()
Date: October 12, 2014 04:24PM

Lets pease stop lumping all schools as one.

If you can afford to live in McLean, Langley, Woodson, Marshall, lucky you. Your kid will get an excellent education and do well on thesecsats.

Sucks if you live in mt Vernon, falls church, Stuart or lee, because those scores are dreadful as are the schools.

Time to talk about segregation in fcps. I say we have open boundaries and you can go to the best schoo if you want to.

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