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In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:00AM
In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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FALLS CHURCH, Va. — Margodilia and her daughter, Claudia, said goodbye eight years ago. Mother moved to Virginia. Daughter stayed in Guatemala. The two would not see each other again until the summer of 2014, when the teenager arrived in the United States.
Their story of years — and thousands of miles — of separation followed by a reunification has become a familiar narrative this year, as tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors have crossed the southern U.S. border.
Most are from Central America. They're fleeing gang violence, domestic abuse and a difficult economy.
Many land in Virginia.
According to the The Office of Refugee Resettlement, 1,023 unaccompanied minors were released to sponsors in Fairfax County during the first seven months of the year, one of the highest figures in the country.
Hundreds of others arrived in Alexandria (205), Arlington County (133), Loudoun County (210) and Prince William County (361).
The Commonwealth as a whole is easily among the top ten states for the placement of newly-arrived children.
"Most of these kids, as they're getting placed, are getting placed with family members," says Mark Rosenbloom, deputy director of the U.S. Immigration Program at the Migration Policy Institute. "Naturally, they're ending up in communities that have Central American populations."
This summer, President Barack Obama called the surge of immigrant children crossing the border an "urgent humanitarian situation."
Immigration reform and even an executive order have been the subject of parlor conversations, yet so far Washington hasn't acted.
Meanwhile, schools in Virginia opened for the year on Tuesday, with a yet- uncertain number of Central American children heading to class for the first time here.
The families
Elizabeth moved from San Alejo, El Salvador to Falls Church, Virginia in 2005. She left behind three children, ages 8, 4 and 7 months.
They would not be reunited for eight years.
"Sometimes when I walked in the stores I used to see other parents with their children," she says. "I wanted to be with mine, but I couldn't because they were so far away."
Like many parents, her reason for coming to the United States and separating from her children is complicated.
She fled from domestic abuse, the threat of gang violence and few opportunities.
In the time apart from her kids, she sent back movies, shoes, photos and other items from the United States. The family spoke regularly on the phone.
But when Elizabeth's father died in 2011 and her mother became sick around the same time, the feasibility of the children remaining there turned.
There were also threats.
"The gangs there were threatening me that if I didn't give them an amount of money they would kidnap my kids," she says. "They kidnap people and when someone doesn't pay the ransom they kill them."
That was enough.
On Dec. 22, 2013, her daughter, Yesenia, arrived as a perfect Christmas present. At 16 years old, she was part of the changing face of Central American immigrants crossing the border -- younger and female.
"I thought we were going to have to cross the [Rio Grande] swimming," she says with a laugh, mentioning one of her fears about the long trip.
Elizabeth called it a "dream come true" that she could have her children together again. However, their ability to remain in the United States is uncertain.
"We hope so," she says. "I'm with my kids. May God's will be."
Changing face, growing needs
Since the beginning of 2014, tens of thousands of unaccompanied children have arrived in the United States.
At the peak of the wave, the White House requested $3.7 billion in emergency funds to support more detention centers, border patrols and immigration judges.
"We're definitely seeing a lot of Central American children," says Madeline Taylor Diaz, an Equal Justice Works fellow at Ayuda in Falls Church. The nonprofit is a legal and social services provider that works with low income immigrants in the Washington area.
"Sort of the prototypical case is a male teenager, but we're starting to see more girls as well as younger children coming over the border."
Since the surge, Taylor Diaz has been carrying 50-100 children's cases at a time.
"I think the violence that is all over the media is, in fact, real, and I hear it every day in stories from my clients," she says. "They're facing pretty horrific threats by gangs, by other forces in the society where they live."
Although the uncertain journey to the United States may be horrible, she says, the lives they're leaving in their home countries are worse.
Back to school
Although the Office of Refugee Resettlement reports about 2,000 unaccompanied children have been released in Northern Virginia this year, the impact to local schools is unclear.
Fairfax County, which has the greatest number of newly-arrived children, already handles 160 language groups in its public schools.
Local school districts haven't given concrete numbers of new students who just arrived from Central America.
Loudoun County Public Schools expected up to 60 refugee students to attend classes this fall. Prince William County Public Schools' spokesman Phil Kavits says the number wasn't large enough to impact the system already in place.
The challenges, however, are consistent.
"Many of the kids have a gap in their education," says Robin Hamby, a family partnership specialist working with FCPS. "Oftentimes if they hear that they'll be migrating in a year or two years, sometimes they actually stop going to school in their home country."
That leaves them not only in a language deficit but also an instructional one upon arriving in the United States.
It's about the kids... and the parents
After spending years apart, reuniting would presumably be a joyous occasion, and it is.
But following the hugs and tears of joy, school teachers have picked up on some negative long term effects.
What parents originally imagined to be a short separation instead turned into an extended one, leading to some emotional struggles for the children.
"Over time that begins to show itself in the classroom," Hamby says. "It's hard to concentrate when you're in a new family where you really don't know them, and there's a new step dad, and there are siblings who speak English and you feel as though you just don't fit in."
After three years of looking at the issues surrounding this, Hamby says they developed a curriculum targeting the parents' emotions and helping them understand their own children's perspective about the separation.
Prominent questions these children have: Did you leave me to start a new family? Why did it take you so long?
Hamby realized those conversations never happened after parents reunited with their children, and so she helped develop a six-hour course for FCPS parents to address the needs.
One of the key findings was that children need an apology after a feeling of abandonment. Parents, often, never felt as though they had done anything wrong.
The course helps them identify their children's emotions after years of separation.
Hamby says they offered about 20 classes in the community and in the schools last year, and now school districts across the country have asked for the curriculum.
Margodilia, top right, stands with three of her children in Virginia. After right years apart, her daughter, Claudia, arrived this summer. Two of her sons were born in the United States. (WTOP/Andrew Mollenbeck)
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FALLS CHURCH, Va. — Margodilia and her daughter, Claudia, said goodbye eight years ago. Mother moved to Virginia. Daughter stayed in Guatemala. The two would not see each other again until the summer of 2014, when the teenager arrived in the United States.
Their story of years — and thousands of miles — of separation followed by a reunification has become a familiar narrative this year, as tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors have crossed the southern U.S. border.
Most are from Central America. They're fleeing gang violence, domestic abuse and a difficult economy.
Many land in Virginia.
According to the The Office of Refugee Resettlement, 1,023 unaccompanied minors were released to sponsors in Fairfax County during the first seven months of the year, one of the highest figures in the country.
Hundreds of others arrived in Alexandria (205), Arlington County (133), Loudoun County (210) and Prince William County (361).
The Commonwealth as a whole is easily among the top ten states for the placement of newly-arrived children.
"Most of these kids, as they're getting placed, are getting placed with family members," says Mark Rosenbloom, deputy director of the U.S. Immigration Program at the Migration Policy Institute. "Naturally, they're ending up in communities that have Central American populations."
This summer, President Barack Obama called the surge of immigrant children crossing the border an "urgent humanitarian situation."
Immigration reform and even an executive order have been the subject of parlor conversations, yet so far Washington hasn't acted.
Meanwhile, schools in Virginia opened for the year on Tuesday, with a yet- uncertain number of Central American children heading to class for the first time here.
The families
Elizabeth moved from San Alejo, El Salvador to Falls Church, Virginia in 2005. She left behind three children, ages 8, 4 and 7 months.
They would not be reunited for eight years.
"Sometimes when I walked in the stores I used to see other parents with their children," she says. "I wanted to be with mine, but I couldn't because they were so far away."
Like many parents, her reason for coming to the United States and separating from her children is complicated.
She fled from domestic abuse, the threat of gang violence and few opportunities.
In the time apart from her kids, she sent back movies, shoes, photos and other items from the United States. The family spoke regularly on the phone.
But when Elizabeth's father died in 2011 and her mother became sick around the same time, the feasibility of the children remaining there turned.
There were also threats.
"The gangs there were threatening me that if I didn't give them an amount of money they would kidnap my kids," she says. "They kidnap people and when someone doesn't pay the ransom they kill them."
That was enough.
On Dec. 22, 2013, her daughter, Yesenia, arrived as a perfect Christmas present. At 16 years old, she was part of the changing face of Central American immigrants crossing the border -- younger and female.
"I thought we were going to have to cross the [Rio Grande] swimming," she says with a laugh, mentioning one of her fears about the long trip.
Elizabeth called it a "dream come true" that she could have her children together again. However, their ability to remain in the United States is uncertain.
"We hope so," she says. "I'm with my kids. May God's will be."
Changing face, growing needs
Since the beginning of 2014, tens of thousands of unaccompanied children have arrived in the United States.
At the peak of the wave, the White House requested $3.7 billion in emergency funds to support more detention centers, border patrols and immigration judges.
"We're definitely seeing a lot of Central American children," says Madeline Taylor Diaz, an Equal Justice Works fellow at Ayuda in Falls Church. The nonprofit is a legal and social services provider that works with low income immigrants in the Washington area.
"Sort of the prototypical case is a male teenager, but we're starting to see more girls as well as younger children coming over the border."
Since the surge, Taylor Diaz has been carrying 50-100 children's cases at a time.
"I think the violence that is all over the media is, in fact, real, and I hear it every day in stories from my clients," she says. "They're facing pretty horrific threats by gangs, by other forces in the society where they live."
Although the uncertain journey to the United States may be horrible, she says, the lives they're leaving in their home countries are worse.
Back to school
Although the Office of Refugee Resettlement reports about 2,000 unaccompanied children have been released in Northern Virginia this year, the impact to local schools is unclear.
Fairfax County, which has the greatest number of newly-arrived children, already handles 160 language groups in its public schools.
Local school districts haven't given concrete numbers of new students who just arrived from Central America.
Loudoun County Public Schools expected up to 60 refugee students to attend classes this fall. Prince William County Public Schools' spokesman Phil Kavits says the number wasn't large enough to impact the system already in place.
The challenges, however, are consistent.
"Many of the kids have a gap in their education," says Robin Hamby, a family partnership specialist working with FCPS. "Oftentimes if they hear that they'll be migrating in a year or two years, sometimes they actually stop going to school in their home country."
That leaves them not only in a language deficit but also an instructional one upon arriving in the United States.
It's about the kids... and the parents
After spending years apart, reuniting would presumably be a joyous occasion, and it is.
But following the hugs and tears of joy, school teachers have picked up on some negative long term effects.
What parents originally imagined to be a short separation instead turned into an extended one, leading to some emotional struggles for the children.
"Over time that begins to show itself in the classroom," Hamby says. "It's hard to concentrate when you're in a new family where you really don't know them, and there's a new step dad, and there are siblings who speak English and you feel as though you just don't fit in."
After three years of looking at the issues surrounding this, Hamby says they developed a curriculum targeting the parents' emotions and helping them understand their own children's perspective about the separation.
Prominent questions these children have: Did you leave me to start a new family? Why did it take you so long?
Hamby realized those conversations never happened after parents reunited with their children, and so she helped develop a six-hour course for FCPS parents to address the needs.
One of the key findings was that children need an apology after a feeling of abandonment. Parents, often, never felt as though they had done anything wrong.
The course helps them identify their children's emotions after years of separation.
Hamby says they offered about 20 classes in the community and in the schools last year, and now school districts across the country have asked for the curriculum.
Margodilia, top right, stands with three of her children in Virginia. After right years apart, her daughter, Claudia, arrived this summer. Two of her sons were born in the United States. (WTOP/Andrew Mollenbeck)
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:01AM
Elizabeth, right, stands with her children in Falls Church. She left El Salvador for Virginia in 2006. In the last year, all have been reunited the United States. (WTOP/Andrew Mollenbeck)
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La Razatardz
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:29AM
The invasion continues.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Weepy bullshit, there...
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:30AM
Nice writing, asshole. Start with a weepy tale of one "left behind" (btw, where was dad?), then get to the real story; 1,023 unaccompanied minors (which means no weepy reunions).
What a pile of shit. Thanks, Gerry!
What a pile of shit. Thanks, Gerry!
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Sharoom Bullover
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:39AM
Weepy bullshit, there... Wrote:
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> Nice writing, asshole. Start with a weepy tale of
> one "left behind" (btw, where was dad?), then get
> to the real story; 1,023 unaccompanied minors
> (which means no weepy reunions).
>
> What a pile of shit. Thanks, Gerry!
You forgot to thank me you fucking peasant.
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> Nice writing, asshole. Start with a weepy tale of
> one "left behind" (btw, where was dad?), then get
> to the real story; 1,023 unaccompanied minors
> (which means no weepy reunions).
>
> What a pile of shit. Thanks, Gerry!
You forgot to thank me you fucking peasant.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Section_8_Sharon
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Date: September 11, 2014 10:55AM
Report to the People's Re-education Facility, Building #23 located at 10520 Judicial Dr, Fairfax, VA.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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mGdP9
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Date: September 12, 2014 03:56PM
you are always using children as a shield you fairfaxdemocrat.org sack of shit
how about showing the mother fucker spending the money having kids on democrat money asking for money above hsi gov pay, and more after that, showing us sympathy pics ?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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CcY6L
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Date: September 12, 2014 03:59PM
hey i found one of your facist take over denizen with tax turf war and show sympathy pics "fan club members"
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hMH6L
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Date: September 12, 2014 04:05PM
hey i found a couple chicks who might date me. problem is they are dead.
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Possible Solution
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Date: September 12, 2014 04:38PM
Do they still manufacture Zyklon B?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Vonoria
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Date: September 12, 2014 11:06PM
We are doing this completely backwards. We need to send all the kind libby /demo hearts with big wallets to for free to these immigrants staying down there in their own original "back yards". Let'sGive them all something constructive to do while learning to fund their grandiose delusions via the essential wealth in their own pockets. Then they can write books about their experiences, go on TV, etc to keep the funding going down there, just like the big boys do. Pull up a country in situ by its own bootstraps, or learn through trying and dying a failure.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Date: September 13, 2014 12:22AM
Vonoria Wrote:
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> We need to send all the kind libby /demo hearts with big
> wallets to for free to these immigrants staying
> down there in their own original "back yards".
Hasn't someone already posted about how this was already tried and backfired...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/08/jews-expelled-from-guatemala-village-20148305238923957.html
"I don't understand why they don't want us, we're doing nothing bad here," said Goldman, who like other men in the Lev Tahor, which means "Pure Heart" in Hebrew, the Reuters news agency reported.
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> We need to send all the kind libby /demo hearts with big
> wallets to for free to these immigrants staying
> down there in their own original "back yards".
Hasn't someone already posted about how this was already tried and backfired...
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/08/jews-expelled-from-guatemala-village-20148305238923957.html
"I don't understand why they don't want us, we're doing nothing bad here," said Goldman, who like other men in the Lev Tahor, which means "Pure Heart" in Hebrew, the Reuters news agency reported.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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D4FXm
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Date: September 13, 2014 05:58PM
in the 1990's the law was clearly broadcast ont he radio hiring illegals could get jailtime
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wide ranging effects for who broke the law
you just try to put the effect on me. you are not me. your fucking paying.
there is no "we" on the point - not any we at all
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wide ranging effects for who broke the law
you just try to put the effect on me. you are not me. your fucking paying.
there is no "we" on the point - not any we at all
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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What's the big deal?
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Date: September 13, 2014 06:17PM
The biggest effect of immigrants that I've noticed has been the ignorant ruckus raised by slobbering racist fucktards and putrid nativist assholes. Otherwise, it's all been good.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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2019
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Date: September 13, 2014 06:30PM
What is Fairfax going to do when all the gangs, raping, kidnapping, jobs for the citizens of Fairfax are no longer happen? Look what has happened in a year now times it by 5. Can't the people that govern this county and state see what is happening or they planning on leaving after they make a mess for the people that live here?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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The end is near
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Date: September 13, 2014 06:42PM
What's the big deal? Wrote:
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> The biggest effect of immigrants that I've noticed
> has been the ignorant ruckus raised by slobbering
> racist fucktards and putrid nativist assholes.
> Otherwise, it's all been good.
^ ILLEGAL spic says what?
Liberal cock sucker, Your end is coming.
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> The biggest effect of immigrants that I've noticed
> has been the ignorant ruckus raised by slobbering
> racist fucktards and putrid nativist assholes.
> Otherwise, it's all been good.
^ ILLEGAL spic says what?
Liberal cock sucker, Your end is coming.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Need change please
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Date: September 13, 2014 07:37PM
Vote Liberal and this is why the county is turning into haven for illegals. All this for their votes. They do not care what happens to the citizens.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Ismellit Ismellshit
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Date: September 13, 2014 07:53PM
How any American regardless of party can support Illegal's entering the USA is sick.This should be a united American agenda item.
But for votes for Democrats liberals will send their country down the drain.
And that shows how sick they have become..and they wonder why conservatives will not "join" with them on issues??? Its all our fault is it. B.S.
But for votes for Democrats liberals will send their country down the drain.
And that shows how sick they have become..and they wonder why conservatives will not "join" with them on issues??? Its all our fault is it. B.S.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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PmhYp
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Date: September 14, 2014 11:07AM
here's some white people with jobs that weren't exported to china - obama doesn't allow that
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MHnYN
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Date: September 14, 2014 11:08AM
here's to immigrants supplied by gov kickbacks and foodstamps (at request of greedy local rich political families) at under min wage taking jobs denizens need !
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I got mine u redneck fags
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Date: September 14, 2014 03:25PM
What's the big deal? Wrote:
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> The biggest effect of immigrants that I've noticed
> has been the ignorant ruckus raised by slobbering
> racist fucktards and putrid nativist assholes.
> Otherwise, it's all been good.
Suckling deeply at the taxpayer teat, producing nothing but roadblocks and regulations designed to quietly strangle and replace middle class taxpayers while replacing them with pliant worker caste. Formerly a self-centered pot smoking hippy, now a self-centered cynical evil shit.
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> The biggest effect of immigrants that I've noticed
> has been the ignorant ruckus raised by slobbering
> racist fucktards and putrid nativist assholes.
> Otherwise, it's all been good.
Suckling deeply at the taxpayer teat, producing nothing but roadblocks and regulations designed to quietly strangle and replace middle class taxpayers while replacing them with pliant worker caste. Formerly a self-centered pot smoking hippy, now a self-centered cynical evil shit.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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What's the big deal?
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Date: September 14, 2014 03:34PM
The end is near Wrote:
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> ^ ILLEGAL spic says what?
Born and raised here. Also EDUCATED here. Sounds like you missed out on that last part completely.
> Liberal cock sucker, Your end is coming.
Because you said so??? I doubt you could tell me what time it is. Careful -- it's a trick question.
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> ^ ILLEGAL spic says what?
Born and raised here. Also EDUCATED here. Sounds like you missed out on that last part completely.
> Liberal cock sucker, Your end is coming.
Because you said so??? I doubt you could tell me what time it is. Careful -- it's a trick question.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Obama Rules
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Date: September 14, 2014 03:38PM
That is wonderful. Fairfax needs more diversity in this global economy. For once we finally have a president willing to embrace that. All you naysayers are uneducated.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Dumb Has Happened
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Date: September 14, 2014 03:43PM
Need change please Wrote:
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> Vote Liberal and this is why the county is turning
> into haven for illegals. All this for their
> votes. They do not care what happens to the
> citizens.
The foreign-born population is just barely getting back to what was the normal share of the population between the Civil War and WWI. That war plus the Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold War brought restrictions that made global travel difficult. The foreign-born share reached bottom in 1970 but has been rebounding ever since. It will continue to climb, as we do not have enough native-born workers to fill in behind the retiring baby-boomers, and as the population in general ages, demands for the sort of personal and home services that immigrants have specialized in will continue to soar. You quaking nativist morons are destined for a very rough ride over the years ahead. Buckle up.
By the way, illegals can't vote. Even the ones who are much smarter than you, which is nearly all of them.
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> Vote Liberal and this is why the county is turning
> into haven for illegals. All this for their
> votes. They do not care what happens to the
> citizens.
The foreign-born population is just barely getting back to what was the normal share of the population between the Civil War and WWI. That war plus the Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold War brought restrictions that made global travel difficult. The foreign-born share reached bottom in 1970 but has been rebounding ever since. It will continue to climb, as we do not have enough native-born workers to fill in behind the retiring baby-boomers, and as the population in general ages, demands for the sort of personal and home services that immigrants have specialized in will continue to soar. You quaking nativist morons are destined for a very rough ride over the years ahead. Buckle up.
By the way, illegals can't vote. Even the ones who are much smarter than you, which is nearly all of them.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
LOL...
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Date: September 14, 2014 03:54PM
Ismellit Ismellshit Wrote:
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...and they wonder why conservatives will not "join"
> with them on issues??? Its all our fault is it. B.S.
You don't fucking understand any of the issues, you worthless dumbfuck. The reason why there are so many undocumented workers is that the government does not produce enough documents. How fucking hard is that to grasp, you stupid loser? The demand is there. The supply is there. The documents aren't. We need what all these immigrants produce. We don't at all need fucked up loser asswipes like you, so go fuck your worthless self, asshole.
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...and they wonder why conservatives will not "join"
> with them on issues??? Its all our fault is it. B.S.
You don't fucking understand any of the issues, you worthless dumbfuck. The reason why there are so many undocumented workers is that the government does not produce enough documents. How fucking hard is that to grasp, you stupid loser? The demand is there. The supply is there. The documents aren't. We need what all these immigrants produce. We don't at all need fucked up loser asswipes like you, so go fuck your worthless self, asshole.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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Right-wing = Stupid Shits
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Date: September 14, 2014 04:00PM
PmhYp Wrote:
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> here's some white people with jobs that weren't
> exported to china - obama doesn't allow that
Romney does.
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> here's some white people with jobs that weren't
> exported to china - obama doesn't allow that
Romney does.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
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LOL....
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Date: September 14, 2014 04:13PM
MHnYN Wrote:
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> here's to immigrants supplied by gov kickbacks and
> foodstamps (at request of greedy local rich
> political families) at under min wage taking jobs
> denizens need !
Time for your meds, dorkbrain...
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> here's to immigrants supplied by gov kickbacks and
> foodstamps (at request of greedy local rich
> political families) at under min wage taking jobs
> denizens need !
Time for your meds, dorkbrain...
.
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Flush it...
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Date: September 14, 2014 04:18PM
I got mine u redneck fags Wrote:
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> Suckling deeply at the taxpayer teat, producing
> nothing but roadblocks and regulations designed to
> quietly strangle and replace middle class
> taxpayers while replacing them with pliant worker
> caste. Formerly a self-centered pot smoking
> hippy, now a self-centered cynical evil shit.
That's sure a lot of brain damage there, goobs. Obviously, a disgruntled slobbering racist fucktard and putrid nativist asshole, but for how long did you eat all those lead paint chips as a child, anyway?
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> Suckling deeply at the taxpayer teat, producing
> nothing but roadblocks and regulations designed to
> quietly strangle and replace middle class
> taxpayers while replacing them with pliant worker
> caste. Formerly a self-centered pot smoking
> hippy, now a self-centered cynical evil shit.
That's sure a lot of brain damage there, goobs. Obviously, a disgruntled slobbering racist fucktard and putrid nativist asshole, but for how long did you eat all those lead paint chips as a child, anyway?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
reality calling
()
Date: September 14, 2014 04:30PM
I love to hear conservatards carry on about immigration. They are so fricking stupid.
Immigration, legal and otherwise is what built this country. 84.72% of the so called illegal immigrants wind up paying far more in taxes than they cost us. They are also consumers just like we are, they provide jobs by consuming. They are a positive force in our economy. Yes they are taking over our county but that is what they should be doing. If you do not like to be the minority in your hood then move on.
If you can somehow get past your own fear and hate maybe you could try and be friends with these people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are wonderful people.
Immigration, legal and otherwise is what built this country. 84.72% of the so called illegal immigrants wind up paying far more in taxes than they cost us. They are also consumers just like we are, they provide jobs by consuming. They are a positive force in our economy. Yes they are taking over our county but that is what they should be doing. If you do not like to be the minority in your hood then move on.
If you can somehow get past your own fear and hate maybe you could try and be friends with these people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are wonderful people.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Ismellit Ismellshit
()
Date: September 14, 2014 04:35PM
^^^ >We need what all these immigrants produce ^^^
Votes FOR DEMOCRATS and THATS IT.
We don't need a expanded welfare class with illegals. We have enough already
Votes FOR DEMOCRATS and THATS IT.
We don't need a expanded welfare class with illegals. We have enough already
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Bunch-o-Crap
()
Date: September 14, 2014 05:23PM
Dumb Has Happened Wrote:
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> Need change please Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote Liberal and this is why the county is
> turning
> > into haven for illegals. All this for their
> > votes. They do not care what happens to the
> > citizens.
>
> The foreign-born population is just barely getting
> back to what was the normal share of the
> population between the Civil War and WWI. That
> war plus the Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold
> War brought restrictions that made global travel
> difficult. The foreign-born share reached bottom
> in 1970 but has been rebounding ever since. It
> will continue to climb, as we do not have enough
> native-born workers to fill in behind the retiring
> baby-boomers, and as the population in general
> ages, demands for the sort of personal and home
> services that immigrants have specialized in will
> continue to soar. You quaking nativist morons are
> destined for a very rough ride over the years
> ahead. Buckle up.
>
BS. Not the same time or place. We also didn't have all of the associated social costs that come along with each of them. Ask the Europeans how that's working out.
> By the way, illegals can't vote. Even the ones
> who are much smarter than you, which is nearly all
> of them.
Just like they can't hold jobs without proof of citizenship and can't be here to begin with right?
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> Need change please Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Vote Liberal and this is why the county is
> turning
> > into haven for illegals. All this for their
> > votes. They do not care what happens to the
> > citizens.
>
> The foreign-born population is just barely getting
> back to what was the normal share of the
> population between the Civil War and WWI. That
> war plus the Great Depression, WWII, and the Cold
> War brought restrictions that made global travel
> difficult. The foreign-born share reached bottom
> in 1970 but has been rebounding ever since. It
> will continue to climb, as we do not have enough
> native-born workers to fill in behind the retiring
> baby-boomers, and as the population in general
> ages, demands for the sort of personal and home
> services that immigrants have specialized in will
> continue to soar. You quaking nativist morons are
> destined for a very rough ride over the years
> ahead. Buckle up.
>
BS. Not the same time or place. We also didn't have all of the associated social costs that come along with each of them. Ask the Europeans how that's working out.
> By the way, illegals can't vote. Even the ones
> who are much smarter than you, which is nearly all
> of them.
Just like they can't hold jobs without proof of citizenship and can't be here to begin with right?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
need to make them legal
()
Date: September 14, 2014 08:20PM
The problem is that illegals cannot work in anything but under the table jobs. Those jobs do not produce taxable income as they are in the "underground economy". They don't pay income taxes or Social Security or Medicare taxes. Plus they send a lot of their money back to their relatives in their home countries. They minimize the amount they spend here by sharing rooms in houses. They don't have health insurance (nor can they get it under Obamacare). Now, do you think these people are net assets or net deficits to the economy?
So, yes, immigration is great, but illegal immigration is not great. This situation needs to be solved sooner or later and it seems like it is just becoming later and later. As long as they are illegal, they are most likely not economic assets.
So, yes, immigration is great, but illegal immigration is not great. This situation needs to be solved sooner or later and it seems like it is just becoming later and later. As long as they are illegal, they are most likely not economic assets.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
bHkYJ
()
Date: September 15, 2014 02:41PM
i see threats from democrats above.
not like i didn't know that if their "dream of printing money in someone else's country" isn't had they try to torture kill
as if we didn't know - demcrats don't want to earn it RESPECTABLY
and are quite quick to use police and threats of torture
not like i didn't know that if their "dream of printing money in someone else's country" isn't had they try to torture kill
as if we didn't know - demcrats don't want to earn it RESPECTABLY
and are quite quick to use police and threats of torture
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
hmbPK
()
Date: September 15, 2014 02:42PM
CcY6L Wrote:
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> hey i found one of your facist take over denizen
> with tax turf war and show sympathy pics "fan club
> members"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> hey i found one of your facist take over denizen
> with tax turf war and show sympathy pics "fan club
> members"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
9TMmj
()
Date: September 15, 2014 02:44PM
so which whitey picture pissed you off to make open threats democrat ?
whitey succeeding in industry instead of china?
or was it whitey had a healthy baby that isn't a democrat?
Attachments:
whitey succeeding in industry instead of china?
or was it whitey had a healthy baby that isn't a democrat?
Attachments:
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
DbtLP
()
Date: September 16, 2014 02:39PM
if your a democrat and referring to me as "a wide range" over which you have authority
fuck off. you don't.
fuck off. you don't.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
a reader
()
Date: September 16, 2014 07:56PM
http://bearingdrift.com/2014/09/10/fairfax-to-feds-reimburse-us-14m-for-educating-undocumented-kids/
Pat Herrity is asking the Feds to reimburse Fairfax County for educating the kids.
Pat Herrity is asking the Feds to reimburse Fairfax County for educating the kids.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Look up Mimi Diaz Torres
()
Date: September 16, 2014 08:11PM
This is why immigrant parents are a threat to the US. These people are a drain on our economy. The come here and rape, pillage and steal.
Enough!
Enough!
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Libtards should be taxed
()
Date: September 16, 2014 10:57PM
Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you going to pay taxes for the fat assed short little ugly Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their other three kids around Annandale to the Safeway to buy groceries with their WIC check. You think that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there fuckheads...
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
P3HXT
()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:10PM
"making friends one ffu at a time"
yes well in fairfax if you happen to see the gov buying luxury family condos for illegals and complain
"your crazy"
yes well in fairfax if you happen to see the gov buying luxury family condos for illegals and complain
"your crazy"
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Shocking...
()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:21PM
Bunch-o-Crap Wrote:
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> Just like they can't hold jobs without proof of
> citizenship and can't be here to begin with right?
You do not need to be a citizen to work here. And certainly not merely to be here. The fucking dumbness of you moron-goobers is simply astounding!
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> Just like they can't hold jobs without proof of
> citizenship and can't be here to begin with right?
You do not need to be a citizen to work here. And certainly not merely to be here. The fucking dumbness of you moron-goobers is simply astounding!
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Fact Man
()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:39PM
need to make them legal Wrote:
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> The problem is that illegals cannot work in
> anything but under the table jobs.
That's entirely incorrect. The vast majority of working illegals work in ordinary every day jobs and pay all the same taxes as everybody else does. What they have is enough paper to satisfy an employer's need for CYA plausible deniability if an employee is illegal and later gets caught for it. The best cover for an employer of course is to treat everyone the same way. That means all the same taxes and all the same benefits. Do things differently for this group as opposed to that group, and you may as well just march in and sign a confession.
That said, we aren't going to get a handle on all this until it is easier and cheaper to come here and work legally than it is to come here and work illegally. Any other expectation is simply stupid.
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> The problem is that illegals cannot work in
> anything but under the table jobs.
That's entirely incorrect. The vast majority of working illegals work in ordinary every day jobs and pay all the same taxes as everybody else does. What they have is enough paper to satisfy an employer's need for CYA plausible deniability if an employee is illegal and later gets caught for it. The best cover for an employer of course is to treat everyone the same way. That means all the same taxes and all the same benefits. Do things differently for this group as opposed to that group, and you may as well just march in and sign a confession.
That said, we aren't going to get a handle on all this until it is easier and cheaper to come here and work legally than it is to come here and work illegally. Any other expectation is simply stupid.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Warden Bob
()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:47PM
DbtLP Wrote:
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> if your a democrat and referring to me as "a wide
> range" over which you have authority
> fuck off. you don't.
Asshole dreamer narcissist. We put anti-social goober fucktards like you in jail every day. Be ready for it.
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> if your a democrat and referring to me as "a wide
> range" over which you have authority
> fuck off. you don't.
Asshole dreamer narcissist. We put anti-social goober fucktards like you in jail every day. Be ready for it.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Net Worth Negative?
()
Date: September 18, 2014 08:52PM
Libtards should be taxed Wrote:
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> Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you going
> to pay taxes for the fat assed short little ugly
> Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> other three kids around Annandale to the Safeway
> to buy groceries with their WIC check. You think
> that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> fuckheads...
You stupid dumbfuck racist assholes don't make enough money to pay any taxes, so yeah...we smart people are already footing the bill here.
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> Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you going
> to pay taxes for the fat assed short little ugly
> Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> other three kids around Annandale to the Safeway
> to buy groceries with their WIC check. You think
> that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> fuckheads...
You stupid dumbfuck racist assholes don't make enough money to pay any taxes, so yeah...we smart people are already footing the bill here.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
important bmw driver
()
Date: September 19, 2014 03:56AM
Net Worth Negative? Wrote:
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> Libtards should be taxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you
> going
> > to pay taxes for the fat assed short little
> ugly
> > Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> > other three kids around Annandale to the
> Safeway
> > to buy groceries with their WIC check. You
> think
> > that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> > fuckheads...
>
> You stupid dumbfuck racist assholes don't make
> enough money to pay any taxes, so yeah...we smart
> people are already footing the bill here.
Since when does sucking up taxpayer cash as a contractor or public employee doesn't count as "making money"?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Libtards should be taxed Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you
> going
> > to pay taxes for the fat assed short little
> ugly
> > Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> > other three kids around Annandale to the
> Safeway
> > to buy groceries with their WIC check. You
> think
> > that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> > fuckheads...
>
> You stupid dumbfuck racist assholes don't make
> enough money to pay any taxes, so yeah...we smart
> people are already footing the bill here.
Since when does sucking up taxpayer cash as a contractor or public employee doesn't count as "making money"?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
no reality to compare
()
Date: September 19, 2014 07:59AM
Libtards should be taxed Wrote:
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> Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you going
> to pay taxes for the fat assed short little ugly
> Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> other three kids around Annandale to the Safeway
> to buy groceries with their WIC check. You think
> that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> fuckheads...
That wont happen, they don't stray too far from the safety of their 3 million dollar homes in Great Falls and Loudon County. They celebrate diversity by watching the landscaping company sweat in their yard while sipping a glass of wine before picking up missy at the private school.
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> Hey Libtard cocksucking pussies... Are you going
> to pay taxes for the fat assed short little ugly
> Central Americans, pregnant and hauling their
> other three kids around Annandale to the Safeway
> to buy groceries with their WIC check. You think
> that doesn't happen, I invite you to shop there
> fuckheads...
That wont happen, they don't stray too far from the safety of their 3 million dollar homes in Great Falls and Loudon County. They celebrate diversity by watching the landscaping company sweat in their yard while sipping a glass of wine before picking up missy at the private school.
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
So pay taxes Net Negative Worth
()
Date: September 19, 2014 08:10AM
Hey Net Negative Penis size... You pay taxes do you fuckface? Well you are going to pay some more. Obama has essentially ceased enforcing immigration laws even worse than usual. No poor ass fat ugly child bearing Central American is going to be turned back in your lifetime. So your taxes here in this sanctuary are going to be like New Jersey within ten years. Enjoy dumb fuck..
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
sheeeit
()
Date: September 19, 2014 08:15AM
What happens when you get into a car accident with one of these fuckers, and they're at fault?
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
They hit you =
()
Date: September 19, 2014 08:19AM
Tough shit. I know, a drunken Peruvian illegal hit me. Maggot got 3 hots and a cot, then a free ride back.
I got to cover repairs out of my own pocket (yeah, he was "liable". So what? Turned out his "papers" were forged. Shocking, I know).
I got to cover repairs out of my own pocket (yeah, he was "liable". So what? Turned out his "papers" were forged. Shocking, I know).
Re: In Fairfax County, an influx of immigrants has wide-ranging effects
Posted by:
Another wide ranging effect
()
Date: September 19, 2014 09:10AM
Hey liberals... look at the Fairfax county arrests... immigrants performing crimes that Americans won't do! You have to go a long way down into the list to get to a native born criminal!
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt
http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/crime/arrest.txt