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Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2 ()
Date: September 05, 2014 01:10PM

Good to be back with the first full Friday night slate of games and what a set we have on tap! Weekly spreads will be posted here and picks are welcome below. Haven’t seen many of the squads this year so the first couple week’s spreads might be shaky, but enjoy.

Annandale @ Falls Church (-6.0)

Chantilly (-21.0) @ Lee

Fairfax @ West Potomac (-7.0)

Gonzaga @ Centreville (-8.5)
*Hope to get a ticket after work. This will be a great one.

Herndon @ Mount Vernon (-7.5)

Jefferson (-10.0) @ Stuart

Langley (-6.0) @ Yorktown
*Don’t know too much about Yorktown this year, but I anticipate this being a good game based on program traditions.

McLean (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee

Oakton (-14.0) @ Madison

Robinson (-8.0) @ WT Woodson
*Woodson looked a lot better last week offensively with their new coach, interested to see Woodson’s air attack versus Robinson’s run. If Woodson can hang in this one, it bodes well that they’ve taken a competitive leap forward.

South County (-15.0) @ Hayfield

South Lakes @ Westfield (-42.0)

Stone Bridge (-10.0) @ Lake Braddock
*At least if I get turned away at Centreville, there’s another great game a few miles down Braddock Road.

Wakefield @ Marshall (-1.0)
*Going out on the limb here. I think Marshall wins their first game in 3 years tonight.

West Springfield (-7.0) @ Edison

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 05, 2014 01:16PM

I have Fairfax and Herndon winning. SoCo wins by +21. LB beat SB last year. I think they will again.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: swami sez... ()
Date: September 05, 2014 03:37PM

Cville will lose 28-21 but it gives them the much needed "reality check" to roll through the rest of the year and into another state finals. They won't necessarily roll over Smith again this year.

Westfield will go up 28-0 on South Lakes at halftime and let the JV play the 2nd half allowing SL to cover the spread 45-14.

Madison will either cover the spread or beat Oakton outright. Madison seems to be one of those schools that plays all sophmores one year and totally sucks. Then they gradually get better in the next year or two before starting the cycle all over again. Just not buying Oakton after beating a meh Woodson team in OT last week. I'll guess 28-24 Madison.

Don't care about the rest of the games but I would like to see Marshall end the losing streak.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Durf644544776; ()
Date: September 05, 2014 07:59PM

Wow, grown men handicap HS football?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: prettybad ()
Date: September 05, 2014 11:21PM

Woodson lost like 57-9. Sucks for their home opener.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 05, 2014 11:27PM

As I thought: LB over SB and Herndon wins big. Fairfax let me down but they gave WP a good game.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: canITbeSAID? ()
Date: September 06, 2014 01:12AM

Hayfield beats the Spread!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Eagles Rule! ()
Date: September 06, 2014 01:53AM

Gonzaga renders all of your NoVa stuff irrelevant. The best team in the Northern Region would get crushed by the WCAC champion.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Roy Rogers ()
Date: September 06, 2014 07:49AM

Yeah, this didn't work out too well for Woodson. Robinson won by like 50 points and pulled most of thier starters at the beginning of the second half when the score was 43-6.

Also, was so disappointed in Centreville's performance last night. Really thought they would have done better. It wasn't even a great game to watch. Maybe a fluke?

"Robinson (-8.0) @ WT Woodson
*Woodson looked a lot better last week offensively with their new coach, interested to see Woodson’s air attack versus Robinson’s run. If Woodson can hang in this one, it bodes well that they’ve taken a competitive leap forward. "

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K2* ()
Date: September 06, 2014 12:10PM

Well as expected the first set of spreads was going to be rough. It’s early, but last night gave a lot of insight into how teams will fare this season. Some evil person registered steve k2, shame on them.

Annandale @ Falls Church (-6.0)
*Falls Church wins 14-12.

Chantilly (-21.0) @ Lee
*Chantilly won 38-15. Spread was pretty good.

Fairfax @ West Potomac (-7.0)
*West Potomac won 14-7. Nailed the spread.

Gonzaga @ Centreville (-8.5)
*Gonzaga won 31-14. They were the better team, their offensive line was great and their secondary was able to go 1 on 1 with Centreville’s receivers. Honestly though, it’s a bit of a shame because I do think Centreville is capable of beating Gonzaga and now we have to listen to the arrogant private school fans discuss how much better their product is. It’s going to be better when you can recruit but Centreville is capable of beating any WCAC school and to see some arrogant prick on another post say Centreville would by 6th in the WCAC at best, give me a break.

For Centreville, missing their best playmaker was huge, and their QB was playing his first ever game as a starter. He has some growing to do. The play calling wasn’t good either, but Haddock gets a pass.

Herndon @ Mount Vernon (-7.5)
*Herndon won 46-27. We’ll see if they can get a win or two in the Concorde, too early to tell.

Jefferson (-10.0) @ Stuart
*Stuart won 40-14. Was not expecting that after TJ won 30-0 last year and I was told Stuart was horrible. Either TJ is horrible or Stuart is better than expected.

Langley (-6.0) @ Yorktown
*Yorktown won 45-13. Weren’t people putting Langley in their top 5 in the region? Great win for Yorktown.

McLean (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee
*McLean won 35-29. McLean jumped out to a 3 touchdown lead.

Oakton (-14.0) @ Madison
*Oakton won 16-14. Looking at Oakton’s scores, I think they are in trouble this year.

Robinson (-8.0) @ WT Woodson
*Robinson won 57-12. I was basing the closer spread on Woodson taking Oakton to OT last week. I think Oakton isn’t as good as I gave them credit for and Woodson is still a work in progress. Robinson looks good under the new coaching staff.

South County (-15.0) @ Hayfield
*South County won 37-31. Good performance for Hayfield, we’ll see if they can remotely stay in the game with Westfield next week and that will give us a good gage where these teams stand. Personally I believe South County is quite average this year.

South Lakes @ Westfield (-42.0)
*Westfield won 56-7. Nice to get the big spread and not disappoint.

Stone Bridge (-10.0) @ Lake Braddock
*Lake Braddock won 13-9. Good win for the Bruins in a game of two perennial powers.

Wakefield @ Marshall (-1.0)
*Wakefield won 40-6. Went out on the limb with Marshall, but it looks like the same squad mired in that losing streak. Went down 40-0 to a team they almost beat last year during their 0-10 season.

West Springfield (-7.0) @ Edison
*West Springfield won 34-0. Good win for the Spartans after their extremely disappointing performance last week. Looks like a long year for Edison.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve Stevens ()
Date: September 06, 2014 12:22PM

Can someone give ne some absolute blowout winners free on a recorded message?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: woodson will change.. in like 2 ()
Date: September 06, 2014 05:56PM

WTW has VERY good talent among two QBs and a RB that are all class of 2018. Expect wins in a few years.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Knute ()
Date: September 06, 2014 07:34PM

Woodson's spread offense absolutely fizzled last night after the first play from scrimmage. It is a soft offense on the ground and Robinson absolutely blanketed Woodson't receivers. Along with getting huge pressure from their front four. And defensively?? ugh... the defensive coordinator looked lost. He had no idea had to defense that wing T... an offense that is only 47 years old. Robison wasn't even that much bigger than Woodson... it is just they blocked the wing T well and Woodson made zero adjustments. This doesn't bode well... but Woodson will surprise the second tier teams with that spread but they don't have the physicality nor the coaching on defense to go to anything beyond maybe 6-5...

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 09, 2014 09:15AM

Below are the spreads for week 3.

Falls Church (-18.0) @ Jefferson

HD Woodson @ Yorktown (-20.0)
*Total guess here, think NR demolishes DC public though

Langley @ Stone Bridge (-17.0)
*Both above average teams come off disappointing opening losses. I expect Langley to play a lot better, but playing in Ashburn to be too much to overcome.

Lee (-14.0) @ Edison

Madison @ Chantilly (-14.5)
*Chantilly looked good opening week granted it was against Lee (not horrendous, likely a 3 win team). Playing a Madison team who has definitely got better but I still consider pretty weak team should not pose a major challenge in this one.

McLean (-30.0) @ Marshall
*Fooled me once. Thought they would be better this year, but after the week 1 performance, could they have a third consecutive winless season? I think the chances are good.

Robinson @ Lake Braddock (-1.0)
*Game of the Week. Great rivalry and both teams come in unbeaten. LB is rated in the post, while Robinson has looked real strong punishing weaker opponents. My gut is telling me to pick Robinson, but I think Braddock's passing attack against Robinson's strong 90% of the time run game will etch out Robinson in points. This should be a great game though that definitely goes into the 4th.

South County (-28.0) @ Mount Vernon

Stuart @ Annandale (-3.0)

WT Woodson @ Fairfax (-7.0)
*Woodson has the chance to bounce back, will pick Fairfax at home.

Washington Lee (-7.0) @ South Lakes

West Potomac @ Centreville (-28.5)
*Shoot, stinks to be the first team on the schedule after last week's disappointing glorified scrimmage. I expect Centreville to run all over the Wolverines.

West Springfield (-8.0) @ Herndon
*This has the potential to be a great under-the-radar team. I don't expect anything from them in the postseason, but both squads have some fire power and are capable of knocking off a good team.

Westfield (-27.0) @ Hayfield
*Bulldogs look locked and ready to go. I'm tentative to make a pick before I see AJ Turner play, but I am telling you Wildcats, don't sleep on Westfield this year. Big on the lines, great talent at the skill positions, hungry, and went under the radar the whole offseason. #5 in the Post for a reason.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: September 10, 2014 10:03AM

I agree with most of the spreads, I will pick Robinson in the upset though and don't think Westfield will cover their spread.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Week 3 ()
Date: September 10, 2014 02:49PM

Herndon over West Springfield.

HB Lamik Bumbrey will be a 2000 yard back by the end of this. Look for Herndon to knock of Chantilly or Oakton in the Concorde once they build up some momentum.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hornet fan ()
Date: September 10, 2014 04:58PM

Herndon will score a lot of points this year. They just don't have the defense to win the big games. They may sneak past Oakton this year but I dont they beat any other concorde team.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 10, 2014 08:29PM

Hornet fan Wrote:
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> Herndon will score a lot of points this year. They
> just don't have the defense to win the big games.
> They may sneak past Oakton this year but I dont
> they beat any other concorde team.


Agreed. If they were playing this week I think I would actually pick Herndon over Oakton. I just do not think Oakton is any good this year, they've squeaked by a Woodson team that lost by 40 to Robinson and squeaked by a 1 win Madison team from last year, who will probably be a 3-4 win team this year.

I think the Concorde is pretty clear cut into 3 tiers.

Tier 1: Centreville and Westfield; and yes Westfield is capable of beating Centreville.

Tier 2: Chantilly and Robinson; both are top 5 caliber teams for the region. Lake Braddock is probably similar with these two. Both Robinson and Chantilly beat Lee by 3 TDs. Don't think either has a real shot at knocking off tier 1.

Tier 3: Herndon and Oakton
Herndon is explosive enough where maybe they could take down Chantilly or Robinson but I doubt it.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: JEB Stuart ()
Date: September 11, 2014 06:16AM

News flash : Stuart's better than expected. In their scrimmages, they lost to Stonewall Jackson 10-7, and beat Madison 7-6 and West Potomac 14-0. Against Jefferson, despite starting three sophomores on the o-line, they rushed for over 300 yards, with sophomore halfback Dejuan Greene leading the way with 103. This is one of the better Stuart teams in recent years.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 11, 2014 10:27PM

Stuart is better than I thought. Still, nothing special though. They could win 5-6 games with their incredibly easy schedule, but no way they get 1 win in the playoffs if they sneak in. I put them close to Annandale because of what I've heard about Stuart but I don't think they win that one.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 12, 2014 12:54AM

steve k2* Wrote:

> HD Woodson @ Yorktown (-20.0)
> *Total guess here, think NR demolishes DC public
> though

Woodson is a solid team. This should be a competitive game.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: WTW Fan ()
Date: September 12, 2014 09:29AM

Predictions
Woodson 24 Fairfax 21
Woodson squeaks one out tonight and gets first win under new coach.

Robinson 35 Braddock 21
Robinson looked very physical and hungry last week. Huge win for the Rams.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 12, 2014 09:49AM

Which game should I go see this tonight?

Madison @ Chantilly

or

West Potomac @ Centreville

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: go to ()
Date: September 12, 2014 11:50AM

Robinson vs. Braddock....that is the only good "game" tonite. Who gives a shit about Madison and Chantilly and Centreville will take out some frustration on West Potomac so expect the reserves to be in by halftime

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: rebelman ()
Date: September 12, 2014 01:04PM

WTW Fan Wrote:
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> Predictions
> Woodson 24 Fairfax 21
> Woodson squeaks one out tonight and gets first win
> under new coach.
>
> Robinson 35 Braddock 21
> Robinson looked very physical and hungry last
> week. Huge win for the Rams.


We'll see about that

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 12, 2014 02:30PM

go to Wrote:
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> Robinson vs. Braddock....that is the only good
> "game" tonite. Who gives a shit about Madison and
> Chantilly and Centreville will take out some
> frustration on West Potomac so expect the reserves
> to be in by halftime


I tend to agree, however, I am lazy and do not want to drive more than 15 minutes and these are the only 2 games that close for me. I think I'll go to Chantilly - I'll give a post-game report on what I see.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Yeah Buddy.... ()
Date: September 12, 2014 10:13PM

Robinson beats Lake Braddock 19-17! Go Rams!

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Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 12, 2014 11:01PM

Chantilly 7 Madison 3

Chantilly was flat out unable to run against Madison's undersized (by comparison) but tenacious defense. They just could not get a running game going and Madison had quite a few tackles for losses. Chantilly QB Sydnor played a solid game connecting on 3 or 4 long passes to three different receivers, including their only score - a nice TD throw on a 4th and 12. But he also threw a couple of interceptions - one over the middle (errant throw or didn't see the defender), the other a long ball where the Madison defender outfought the WR for the ball.

Chantilly was plagued with turnovers (2 fumbles 2 interceptions) and a ton of penalties including 3 personal fouls, 1 unsportsmanlike conduct and a face mask. Chantilly had a few decent playmakers (#1 Montgomery, #8 Sparks, #4 Trammell) but no one showed any breakaway speed that I saw. #23 Kerns was virtually a no show on offense.

Madison was able to move the ball early on the ground but their drives just kept stalling. Madison QB #4 throws a nice ball but the timing with the receivers was not there as they missed a ton of throws. Late in the 3rd quarter Madison had a big gainer on a WR catch and lateral and a series later a long pass play finally connected with #1 Williams. Madison seemed to almost always get a first down or two but could never finish a drive.

So it was a fairly entertaining night but my instincts tell me Chantilly is going to have a rough go of it once they get into the Conference 5 schedule. Got a feeling SoCo will win their rematch next week handily.

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Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 12, 2014 11:08PM

Oh yeah, the highlight of the night was when Chantilly's student section started chanting obscenities at the officials. Real classy.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SoCo Fan ()
Date: September 12, 2014 11:09PM

South County 53 Mt. Vernon 6

SoCo should've won this game 70-0 but it was tied at halftime 6-6 and the offense looked bad. They switched off at QB a lot and only started scoring after Mt. Vernon basically gave up and threw in the towel. This Chantilly game will be a huge indicator if they are for real or not.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 13, 2014 12:08AM

Well the spreads were pretty bad again. Good thing the bets didn't come in this week! Getting around the region though, should be better next week. Despite the spreads being off, my favorites went 12-2 on the week.

Went to Robinson-Lake Braddock and I thought it was pretty evident Robinson was the better team. Both Robinson's lines dominated from the line of scrimmage and Robinson went ahead 19-0. From their the coaching almost cost Robinson the game, first there was a defensive breakdown which led to a deep TD to make it 19-8 and then with 6 minutes to go Robinson had 4th and 1 on their own 30 and went for it and was stopped. WTF, punt the ball there. LB got the field goal and then Robinson botched a punt, Braddock scored as the QB escaped a sack and found a receiver wide open but they missed the 2 and fell 19-17. Honestly was not impressed with Braddock. I struggle to see how they beat Stone Bridge as they did not utilize the best player on the field AJ Alexander well at all. The ball needs to be in his hands and they lack the creativity to get it there. Throw some laterals, do some handoffs, whatever. But having him run routes where his QB consistently misses the target is really wasting his talents. Obviously he was going to be no Nebrich or Henderson, but double Alexander and make the QB throw and Braddock will struggle. No way they contend for the region.

Chantilly 7, Madison 3
Well that doesn't bode well for Chantilly competing against Westfield and Centreville, not that that was expected of them. Kudos to Madison, they clearly have a competitive squad this year.

Centreville 54, West Potomac 0 (34-0 in 1st)
Yeah Centreville played angry. Good for them, for the psyche they needed that one.

Westfield 45, Hayfield 33
Great showing for the Hawks. Maybe they actually are better. Enjoy Centreville next week :) Honestly though, playing South County and Westfield close bodes really well for them. Coming off that opening schedule they are going to smoke some teams when the competition level drops which is coming.

HD Woodson 34, Yorktown 21
Again this was a crap shoot pick, looks like DC has a team that can play though.

Stone Bridge 42, Langley 14
Huge fall off for Langley after such a great season last year. I know they were expecting better than their first two scores. Hopefully the program gets it together because a fall off like this can sour things fast.

McLean 21, Marshall 20
Marshall almost snapped the streak. Biggest surprise of the night. So sorry they couldn't do it, but great to see them play their first competitive game in quite some time and a great sign that maybe a win is coming. They have several teams weaker than McLean still on their schedule, including Freedom (SR) who fell 62-0 tonight followed by Jefferson, get it done!

Falls Church 35, TJ 13
Finally a close spread!

Washington Lee 34, South Lakes 21
South Lakes could be in trouble. Don't see many W's based on their opening few scores.

West Springfield 51, Herndon 28
Ouch for Herndon. I might have spoke too soon predicting a Concorde win but I guess it's still possible. Good win for West Springfield, they've responded well after that South County drubbing. Coach Eldridge for coach of the first quarter of the season!

Lee 20, Edison 17

Annandale 28, Stuart 12

Fairfax 38, Woodson 31 2OT
Nailed a spread, yes!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 13, 2014 04:34AM

Why do you post illegal gambling spreads on High School football?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 13, 2014 05:04AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Why do you post illegal gambling spreads on High
> School football?


Please. This is for entertainment purposes only. Keep it coming Steve K2.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: September 13, 2014 08:43AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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>
> Washington Lee 34, South Lakes 21
> South Lakes could be in trouble. Don't see many
> W's based on their opening few scores.

South Lakes beat themselves against WL and Madison. Looking at the rest of the scheduled they can win the next 6 out of 7! There getting healthy again. Should be a goo run for them

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: September 13, 2014 01:27PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Well the spreads were pretty bad again. Good
> thing the bets didn't come in this week! Getting
> around the region though, should be better next
> week. Despite the spreads being off, my favorites
> went 12-2 on the week.
>
> Went to Robinson-Lake Braddock and I thought it
> was pretty evident Robinson was the better team.
> Both Robinson's lines dominated from the line of
> scrimmage and Robinson went ahead 19-0. From
> their the coaching almost cost Robinson the game,
> first there was a defensive breakdown which led to
> a deep TD to make it 19-8 and then with 6 minutes
> to go Robinson had 4th and 1 on their own 30 and
> went for it and was stopped. WTF, punt the ball
> there. LB got the field goal and then Robinson
> botched a punt, Braddock scored as the QB escaped
> a sack and found a receiver wide open but they
> missed the 2 and fell 19-17. Honestly was not
> impressed with Braddock. I struggle to see how
> they beat Stone Bridge as they did not utilize the
> best player on the field AJ Alexander well at all.
> The ball needs to be in his hands and they lack
> the creativity to get it there. Throw some
> laterals, do some handoffs, whatever. But having
> him run routes where his QB consistently misses
> the target is really wasting his talents.
> Obviously he was going to be no Nebrich or
> Henderson, but double Alexander and make the QB
> throw and Braddock will struggle. No way they
> contend for the region.
>
> Chantilly 7, Madison 3
> Well that doesn't bode well for Chantilly
> competing against Westfield and Centreville, not
> that that was expected of them. Kudos to Madison,
> they clearly have a competitive squad this year.
>
>
> Centreville 54, West Potomac 0 (34-0 in 1st)
> Yeah Centreville played angry. Good for them, for
> the psyche they needed that one.
>
> Westfield 45, Hayfield 33
> Great showing for the Hawks. Maybe they actually
> are better. Enjoy Centreville next week :)
> Honestly though, playing South County and
> Westfield close bodes really well for them.
> Coming off that opening schedule they are going to
> smoke some teams when the competition level drops
> which is coming.
>
> HD Woodson 34, Yorktown 21
> Again this was a crap shoot pick, looks like DC
> has a team that can play though.
>
> Stone Bridge 42, Langley 14
> Huge fall off for Langley after such a great
> season last year. I know they were expecting
> better than their first two scores. Hopefully the
> program gets it together because a fall off like
> this can sour things fast.
>
> McLean 21, Marshall 20
> Marshall almost snapped the streak. Biggest
> surprise of the night. So sorry they couldn't do
> it, but great to see them play their first
> competitive game in quite some time and a great
> sign that maybe a win is coming. They have
> several teams weaker than McLean still on their
> schedule, including Freedom (SR) who fell 62-0
> tonight followed by Jefferson, get it done!
>
> Falls Church 35, TJ 13
> Finally a close spread!
>
> Washington Lee 34, South Lakes 21
> South Lakes could be in trouble. Don't see many
> W's based on their opening few scores.
>
> West Springfield 51, Herndon 28
> Ouch for Herndon. I might have spoke too soon
> predicting a Concorde win but I guess it's still
> possible. Good win for West Springfield, they've
> responded well after that South County drubbing.
> Coach Eldridge for coach of the first quarter of
> the season!
>
> Lee 20, Edison 17
>
> Annandale 28, Stuart 12
>
> Fairfax 38, Woodson 31 2OT
> Nailed a spread, yes!

That's two weeks in a row that you nailed the exact margin of Fairfax's games. Nice!

A favor please -- Please install Fairfax as favorites for the remainder of the season. LOL

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: 7bmHX ()
Date: September 13, 2014 06:55PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> steve k2* Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Why do you post illegal gambling spreads on
> High
> > School football?
>
>
> Please. This is for entertainment purposes only.
> Keep it coming Steve K2.


If it continues, I will be alerting the school board and media.

It may take a few weeks, but I assure you that there will be real life consequences.

Claiming "For entertainment purposes" does not justify sports booking of ant form. The laws are quite clear on this subject matter.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 13, 2014 07:03PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> HD Woodson 34, Yorktown 21
> Again this was a crap shoot pick, looks like DC
> has a team that can play though.

It was a poor man's version of the Centreville-Gonzaga game. Yorktown ran the ball pretty well but Woodson's skill position players were too much. Yorktown should win at least seven games this year, Hayfield and Chantilly are the only teams with a decent chance at beating them.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: 1984, 1981,1982, 1976, 1975* ()
Date: September 13, 2014 07:06PM

I drink, I smoke country and western, Both kinds of Country & Blues. This is a Shout out to WTW Football............ Win Lose, you keep drivin to Multi OT's....... Good for you. Luck is A FiCklE Broad. ... Do your Best, dont give up and see what happens. Class o 84..............

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Jimmy the Geek ()
Date: September 13, 2014 07:19PM

7bmHX Wrote:
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> newgatedenizen Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > steve k2* Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Why do you post illegal gambling spreads on
> > High
> > > School football?
> >
> >
> > Please. This is for entertainment purposes
> only.
> > Keep it coming Steve K2.
>
>
> If it continues, I will be alerting the school
> board and media.
>
> It may take a few weeks, but I assure you that
> there will be real life consequences.
>
> Claiming "For entertainment purposes" does not
> justify sports booking of ant form. The laws are
> quite clear on this subject matter.

Tell ya what, Buttercup...on your way to alerting the Media swing by the Washington Post's (that's Media, right?) Latest Line. Here's a link for you so you don't get lost...http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/09/11/week-2-nfl-picks-arizona-cardinals-buffalo-bills-and-dallas-cowboys-among-best-bets/#.

Now, I have it on good authority that this paper is read by members of the FCPS school board, the FCPD, persons in the United States Dept. of Justice, and even the White House; and the Latest Line is typically used for the default bets in the untold number of office pools in this country. That's a lot of violators to report. You better get busy.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: yENkd ()
Date: September 14, 2014 12:39AM

Jimmy the Geek Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 7bmHX Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > newgatedenizen Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > steve k2* Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > Why do you post illegal gambling spreads on
> > > High
> > > > School football?
> > >
> > >
> > > Please. This is for entertainment purposes
> > only.
> > > Keep it coming Steve K2.
> >
> >
> > If it continues, I will be alerting the school
> > board and media.
> >
> > It may take a few weeks, but I assure you that
> > there will be real life consequences.
> >
> > Claiming "For entertainment purposes" does not
> > justify sports booking of ant form. The laws
> are
> > quite clear on this subject matter.
>
> Tell ya what, Buttercup...on your way to alerting
> the Media swing by the Washington Post's (that's
> Media, right?) Latest Line. Here's a link for you
> so you don't get
> lost...http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-st
> ats/wp/2014/09/11/week-2-nfl-picks-arizona-cardina
> ls-buffalo-bills-and-dallas-cowboys-among-best-bet
> s/#.
>
> Now, I have it on good authority that this paper
> is read by members of the FCPS school board, the
> FCPD, persons in the United States Dept. of
> Justice, and even the White House; and the Latest
> Line is typically used for the default bets in the
> untold number of office pools in this country.
> That's a lot of violators to report. You better
> get busy.


You need a legal lesson - the separation of INCOPORATED businesses verse PUBLIC venues should clear things up for you, buttercup.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Jimmy the Geek () ()
Date: September 14, 2014 11:24AM

Perhaps, Perry, but if you want to pontificate on your puny perspective, go start another thread someplace. Point spreads are a very efficient method of expressing the relative strengths and weaknesses of given teams -- not a prelude to what you evidently think is "online gambling".

I visit this thread because I have two kids playing football at one of the County high schools, and this guy Steve's analysis is tight. You're here, obviously, to be an Ass. Stop wasting people's time.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: September 15, 2014 03:29AM

+1

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 15, 2014 11:07AM

Game of the Week?

Chantilly @ SoCo
or
Lake Braddock @ Westfield

Hmmm... which one should I go to?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Concorder ()
Date: September 15, 2014 11:28AM

Lake Braddock @ Westfield --- could be the knockout punch for LB or they can win and get some respect back. Chance to see if LB will figure out how to use Ohio state commit AJ Alexander

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Gyro ()
Date: September 15, 2014 12:22PM

Knock out punch 2 & 3: Westfield & the Spartans take LB out...

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hornet fan ()
Date: September 15, 2014 01:45PM

Hornet fan Wrote:
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> Herndon will score a lot of points this year. They
> just don't have the defense to win the big games.
> They may sneak past Oakton this year but I dont
> they beat any other concorde team.


Herndon's offense will score with INTs and turnovers...
Spartans let Herndon score twice in 4th quarter with 2d string D when they were up 38 points.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Concorder ()
Date: September 15, 2014 01:48PM

(Hey Gyro) Woah, Woah, Woah wait a minute Spartans???? Which Spartans I don't think LB plays Broad Run. If you are talking about West Springfield, Hilarious. they are improved, but come on man!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 15, 2014 01:54PM

To the Anonymous Clown,

There is nothing illegal about high school spreads with no cash flow nor gambling. An entertainment based pick game and an informed opinion is all the spreads are. As Jimmy so nicely put it, it is just a tool for assessing the strengths of teams and how they stack up against one another. To cover my ass, I will put a disclaimer from now on (sarcasm). I welcome an investigation and media attention, as more of Fairfax County should see my thread. To show how serious I am, I am posting my picks a day early, may alter some later in the week.

Now to this week, several good games. I will let the analysis below speak for itself.


Annandale @ Oakton (-6.0)

Chantilly @ South County (-13.0)
*South County cracks the Washington Post top 20 and looks to avenge a loss from last year. Playing in Lorton should give the Stallions the edge. A great opportunity for Chantilly to show itself though after a very mediocre game against Madison where they scored just 7. While I have a fair size spread, it would not surprise me if Chantilly took this one.

Edison @ Yorktown (-10.0)

Fairfax @ Madison (-10.0)
*Well I’ve nailed the Fairfax spread both times, without seeing them though, I am going to pick Madison based on their defense. The loss to West Potomac seems bad for Fairfax after how thoroughly they were manhandled in Centreville.

Falls Church (-9.0) @ McLean

Hayfield @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Hayfield gave Westfield an unexpected test last Friday. With another close loss to South County, Hayfield comes into this game having played two high-caliber schools. It would really be saying something for the Hawks if they could keep this score within 20 and move the ball, I just think seeing how they played Westfield last Friday, Coach Haddock will have the Wildcats ready.

Jefferson @ Wakefield (-20.0)

Lake Braddock @ Westfield (-17.0)
*If Westfield plays the way they’re capable of this spread is conservative. I do not think Braddock has the offense to stay with Westfield.

Lee @ West Springfield (-7.0)
*Both teams come in with a winning record, putting a little more meaning into this Battle of Springfield. This could be a good one to check out Friday.

Marshall (-6.5) @ Freedom South Riding
*This could be the week, Marshall coming off their best game in the last couple of years faces a Freedom team that has been outscored 185-0 this year and 289-0 if you go back to last year. Last year Freedom was 1-9 with a 25 point win over Marshall though. I look for the them to snap the streak and get their first W since 2011, Freedom will score though.

Mount Vernon @ Robinson (-40.0)
*This one will be ugly fast.

South Lakes @ Herndon (-7.0)

TC Williams @ Langley (-10.0)
*Saxons really need a W here after disappointing start.

WT Woodson (-3.0) @ West Potomac
*Look for an improved Cavs team to get their first W in a low scoring affair.

Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart

*Disclaimer: Betting on these games is strictly prohibited and illegal. The spreads are just to compare the strengths and weaknesses of teams and how I imagine they will stack up against one another. No bets nor cash flow has occurred in the 5 year history of the spread nor will it ever.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Thbx3 ()
Date: September 15, 2014 01:55PM

Jimmy the Geek () Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Perhaps, Perry, but if you want to pontificate on
> your puny perspective, go start another thread
> someplace. Point spreads are a very efficient
> method of expressing the relative strengths and
> weaknesses of given teams -- not a prelude to what
> you evidently think is "online gambling".
>
> I visit this thread because I have two kids
> playing football at one of the County high
> schools, and this guy Steve's analysis is tight.
> You're here, obviously, to be an Ass. Stop
> wasting people's time.


Legally, it has already been determined that using "Points" is evidence enough for illegal gambling. (When PUBLICALLY provided). You just have to find another way to LEGALLY "efficient method of expressing the relative strengths and weaknesses of given teams".

Just stating the facts. If the poster does point this out to the authorities and press, there is grounds for the OP to be prosecuted.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: forgot to add ()
Date: September 15, 2014 02:00PM

There is no comparison to papers like WAPO having "Lines". If the OP was running numbers on the street (Booking) then they could be prosecuted. Posting the numbers online (Booking) is just asking for trouble. There is no way to prove that the numbers provided are not fro gambling purposes. In fact, by law, it is assumed that the numbers are for gambling.

That is why the guy on the street can not just say "But, officer I was just running numbers for fun and entertainment".

Just no one who actually "Books" would be dumb enough to post it online without being incorporated to some degree for protection.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: South Lakes Hornet ()
Date: September 15, 2014 03:21PM

Game of the Week!!! South Lakes Vs Herndon

Give me SL to take their 3rd consecutive win over the Hornerts 34-31.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 15, 2014 04:12PM

forgot to add Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> There is no comparison to papers like WAPO having
> "Lines". If the OP was running numbers on the
> street (Booking) then they could be prosecuted.
> Posting the numbers online (Booking) is just
> asking for trouble. There is no way to prove that
> the numbers provided are not fro gambling
> purposes. In fact, by law, it is assumed that the
> numbers are for gambling.
>
> That is why the guy on the street can not just say
> "But, officer I was just running numbers for fun
> and entertainment".
>
> Just no one who actually "Books" would be dumb
> enough to post it online without being
> incorporated to some degree for protection.

Steve K2 - in the entire history of posting spreads has never made any contact information available. How could he be running a gambling operation if no one knows how to get in touch with him? I challenge you to cite case law that indicates a point spread is automatically legal proof of bookmaking. That would be a violation of several Constitutional amendments.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: nice steve k2 ()
Date: September 15, 2014 07:36PM

I think you're being way to generous to Chantilly. That's going to be a 21/28 point loss.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Adrian P. ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:01PM

SC should win by 14 but lack discipline and leadership could lead to a closer game. They could be better if they were beat with a stick repeatedly.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: bJGNJ ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:12PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> forgot to add Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > There is no comparison to papers like WAPO
> having
> > "Lines". If the OP was running numbers on the
> > street (Booking) then they could be prosecuted.
> > Posting the numbers online (Booking) is just
> > asking for trouble. There is no way to prove
> that
> > the numbers provided are not fro gambling
> > purposes. In fact, by law, it is assumed that
> the
> > numbers are for gambling.
> >
> > That is why the guy on the street can not just
> say
> > "But, officer I was just running numbers for
> fun
> > and entertainment".
> >
> > Just no one who actually "Books" would be dumb
> > enough to post it online without being
> > incorporated to some degree for protection.
>
> Steve K2 - in the entire history of posting
> spreads has never made any contact
> information available. How could he be running a
> gambling operation if no one knows how to get in
> touch with him? I challenge you to cite case law
> that indicates a point spread is automatically
> legal proof of bookmaking. That would be a
> violation of several Constitutional amendments.


It is assumed under the law - just like the guy on the street. There is no need to prove what the numbers are actually being used for or that there is gambling even going on, it is illegal to offer the numbers in the first place.

A bad example, but one none the less - if caught with a certain amount of illegal drugs, it is ASSUMED that the intent was to distribute and that charge will happen - even if the person never distributed. Similar, is just the ACT of providing numbers (In the fashion the OP has) equals INTENT in the eyes of the law.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Eric Holder ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:22PM

Dude, this thread is just for HS football fans to talk about their teams and the points are a conversation starter. You are very very ignorant and annoying. Also, you are the reason why America is going down the tubes.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Bruins fan ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:30PM

My boys will bounce back and keep it a closer game and will by a field goal. I might have to pull out our secret weapon early on short yardage. Watch for Tommy the "Fridge" Yates to make some goal line plays as FB.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: G4K3d ()
Date: September 15, 2014 10:35PM

Eric Holder Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Dude, this thread is just for HS football fans to
> talk about their teams and the points are a
> conversation starter. You are very very ignorant
> and annoying. Also, you are the reason why
> America is going down the tubes.


Just pointing out the facts. There are 10 other High School football threads. The difference is that none of them contain point spreads, which is simply illegal to provide in this format.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 15, 2014 11:02PM

bJGNJ Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> It is assumed under the law - just like the guy on
> the street. There is no need to prove what the
> numbers are actually being used for or that there
> is gambling even going on, it is illegal to offer
> the numbers in the first place.

Would it be illegal to offer advice or opinions on who will win a particular game and why? Would it be illegal to predict a winner of a game? Would it be illegal to state that team x will kick team y's ass and in fact will win by at least 3 touchdowns? All these could also be argued to facilitate the placing of bets irrespective of point spreads. I did a quick search of the Virginia State Code on gambling and I could not find any mention of prohibition of point spreads or information services regarding bookmaking. Can you provide the reference for your assertion that predicting a team will win by a certain number of points is illegal?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Back in the day ()
Date: September 16, 2014 12:07PM

I grew up in Houston, 30-35 years ago the Houston papers printed point spreads for high school games.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Sorry SOCO ()
Date: September 16, 2014 04:08PM

South County has a complete lack of discipline. In the first three games they have had 35 penalties accepted for 418 yards- that is an average of nearly 12 a game and 140 yards.They have had 7 TD's called back by penalty- 5 in the victory over Mt Vernon. Their very talented linebacker (#54) has over 10 penalties in 3 games and over half of those have been for unsportsmanlike conduct. Good player but out of control and the coaches don't do a thing. But it starts at the top- when players are allowed to cuss out coaches wo reprimand then things get out of hand. The head coach waits for the home team to come out first on away games to include the Mt Vernon game this past Friday. The team missed the National Anthem bc they were still in the locker room. What kind of leadership and respect is that? Furthermore, they do a fake field goal up 40-6 and then do an onside kick up 53-6 with 2 minutes to go with the majority of first string still in. Cant wait until they play a real team and their undisciplined style costs them a game or two.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: YTWXh ()
Date: September 16, 2014 06:39PM

Soco is high on talent but low on class and play lick prisoners. They will probably win the patriot district as far as games go but I hope the recruiters at least notice their lack of discipline and unsportsmanlike play. They had 17 Penalties for 166 yards vs WSHS. They kept doing on side kicks too which only gave the Spartans more yardage.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: P@tri0t Dist fan ()
Date: September 16, 2014 06:51PM

steve k2* Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> To the Anonymous Clown,
>
> There is nothing illegal about high school spreads
> with no cash flow nor gambling. An entertainment
> based pick game and an informed opinion is all the
> spreads are. As Jimmy so nicely put it, it is
> just a tool for assessing the strengths of teams
> and how they stack up against one another. To
> cover my ass, I will put a disclaimer from now on
> (sarcasm). I welcome an investigation and media
> attention, as more of Fairfax County should see my
> thread. To show how serious I am, I am posting my
> picks a day early, may alter some later in the
> week.
>
> Now to this week, several good games. I will let
> the analysis below speak for itself.
>
>
> Annandale @ Oakton (-6.0)
>
> Chantilly @ South County (-13.0)
> *South County cracks the Washington Post top 20
> and looks to avenge a loss from last year.
> Playing in Lorton should give the Stallions the
> edge. A great opportunity for Chantilly to show
> itself though after a very mediocre game against
> Madison where they scored just 7. While I have a
> fair size spread, it would not surprise me if
> Chantilly took this one.
>
> Edison @ Yorktown (-10.0)
>
> Fairfax @ Madison (-10.0)
> *Well I’ve nailed the Fairfax spread both times,
> without seeing them though, I am going to pick
> Madison based on their defense. The loss to West
> Potomac seems bad for Fairfax after how thoroughly
> they were manhandled in Centreville.
>
> Falls Church (-9.0) @ McLean
>
> Hayfield @ Centreville (-28.0)
> *Hayfield gave Westfield an unexpected test last
> Friday. With another close loss to South County,
> Hayfield comes into this game having played two
> high-caliber schools. It would really be saying
> something for the Hawks if they could keep this
> score within 20 and move the ball, I just think
> seeing how they played Westfield last Friday,
> Coach Haddock will have the Wildcats ready.
>
> Jefferson @ Wakefield (-20.0)
>
> Lake Braddock @ Westfield (-17.0)
> *If Westfield plays the way they’re capable of
> this spread is conservative. I do not think
> Braddock has the offense to stay with Westfield.
>
> Lee @ West Springfield (-7.0)
> *Both teams come in with a winning record, putting
> a little more meaning into this Battle of
> Springfield. This could be a good one to check
> out Friday.
>
> Marshall (-6.5) @ Freedom South Riding
> *This could be the week, Marshall coming off their
> best game in the last couple of years faces a
> Freedom team that has been outscored 185-0 this
> year and 289-0 if you go back to last year. Last
> year Freedom was 1-9 with a 25 point win over
> Marshall though. I look for the them to snap the
> streak and get their first W since 2011, Freedom
> will score though.
>
> Mount Vernon @ Robinson (-40.0)
> *This one will be ugly fast.
>
> South Lakes @ Herndon (-7.0)
>
> TC Williams @ Langley (-10.0)
> *Saxons really need a W here after disappointing
> start.
>
> WT Woodson (-3.0) @ West Potomac
> *Look for an improved Cavs team to get their first
> W in a low scoring affair.
>
> Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart
>
> *Disclaimer: Betting on these games is strictly
> prohibited and illegal. The spreads are just to
> compare the strengths and weaknesses of teams and
> how I imagine they will stack up against one
> another. No bets nor cash flow has occurred in
> the 5 year history of the spread nor will it ever.

Annandale @ Oakton: O in Oakton stands for overrated; they might be good for 10 points over Annandale but the Atoms could surprise them and keep it a close game.

Chantilly @ SC: SC is good for -14 if they don’t get greedy

LB @ WF: LB is overrated but has enough talent to stay within a 2 TD loss

Lee @ WSHS: Spartans will have easy win in double digits

TCW @ Langley: TC for the Win

Woodson @ WPo: WPo wins by 7

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: cnnsi/yahoo sports ()
Date: September 17, 2014 09:00AM

Both of the above-cited sites have "experts" that opine on college games taking into account p*ints. (Don't want to get into trouble using the vile po*nt word.)

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: johnRiley ()
Date: September 18, 2014 07:38PM

I heard this site was full of illegal gambling. Just wanted to CONTINUE to point this out. I might even make a similar comment each of the next few days. Then continue to do so. I might even promise that some people are going to prison. Then when nobody goes to prison I might mention that they are still going. I might do this. I will do this. I have nothing better to do. I heard talking about sports was to assume you are gambling. Just saying AGAIN for the 1OOTH TIME while using a tone as if I'm concerned and am mentioning it for the FIRST TIME.

ps. this is illegal. someone will pay, well not pay as in money, but with years of jail time.

pps. mentioning the things you are doing is a class 7 felony.

ppps. Just kidding.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Stateless ()
Date: September 19, 2014 10:40PM

Marshall played a school over in Loudoun with 500 fewer students that had lost its first three games by over 60 points, and still lost. This is what happens when Ryan McElveen is your best-known alumnus.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 19, 2014 10:58PM

Tough night for the old Concorde District (now Conference 5).

Annadale 14 Oakton 10
SoCo 34 Chantilly 14
Lake Braddock Refs 36 Westfield 23

Only Centreville and Robinson came out with wins

Centreville 42 Hayfield 18
Robinson 35 Mount Vernon 7

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: soco ()
Date: September 19, 2014 11:05PM

Chantilly was never even close. The most competitive thing in that stadium were the two bands going back and forth playing the same music at each other.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Liberty!!! ()
Date: September 19, 2014 11:20PM

Did South Lakes beat Herndon?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Go South Lakes! ()
Date: September 19, 2014 11:23PM

South Lakes almost beat Herndon!

Hung tough, and lost by only 49...

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 19, 2014 11:27PM

My bad. Forgot about Herndon.

Herndon 49 South Lakes 0

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Baron Cameron ()
Date: September 19, 2014 11:44PM

Did South Lakes show up? What the hell happen to them?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: metcp ()
Date: September 20, 2014 12:07AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> bJGNJ Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It is assumed under the law - just like the guy
> on
> > the street. There is no need to prove what the
> > numbers are actually being used for or that
> there
> > is gambling even going on, it is illegal to
> offer
> > the numbers in the first place.
>
> Would it be illegal to offer advice or opinions on
> who will win a particular game and why? Would it
> be illegal to predict a winner of a game? Would
> it be illegal to state that team x will kick team
> y's ass and in fact will win by at least 3
> touchdowns? All these could also be argued to
> facilitate the placing of bets irrespective of
> point spreads. I did a quick search of the
> Virginia State Code on gambling and I could not
> find any mention of prohibition of point spreads
> or information services regarding bookmaking. Can
> you provide the reference for your assertion that
> predicting a team will win by a certain number of
> points is illegal?


No. It is illegal to produce number/points/spreads on a public forum such as this. Just like it is illegal to offer number/points/spreads in public (Bookies).

Incorporated businesses, papers/online "entertainment" sites etc...are covered under the law. There is a reason gambling sites are illegal.

The "tool for assessing the strengths of teams and how they stack up against one another" is bullshit and would not stop a conviction against the OP (IP address to person). As soon as numbers are introduced it becomes illegal.

There has to be no proof of monies being exchanged or contact with other people, it is assumed under the law. All it would take is one person alerting the police and there being an investigator to check things out. The police would not have to go through the site admin to trace an IP.

It ALL boils down to simply not using numbers. You can discuss until the day you die, but introduce numbers to the public in almost any media form and that equals illegal activity.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 20, 2014 12:33AM

metcp Wrote:

> No. It is illegal to produce number/points/spreads
> on a public forum such as this.

Show me where:


http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode


Your turn.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 20, 2014 12:34AM

A lot of surprises and great football tonight.

Annandale @ Oakton (-6.0)
*Annandale won 14-10. Annandale's not bad, but Oakton definitely isn't real good. I think they finish fifth in the Concorde, but last isn't out of the question.

Chantilly @ South County (-13.0)
*South County won 34-14. The Stallions jumped out to a fast start taking a 14 point lead 4 minutes in. Chantilly had it down to 7 for a while, but the Stallions were definitely the better team tonight. Quality win for the Stallions.

Edison @ Yorktown (-10.0)
*Yorktown won 27-15. Close spread!

Fairfax @ Madison (-10.0)
*Madison won 34-14. By no means a region contender, but the Warhawks have improved vastly from their 1-9 mark last year and should definitely be a playoff team.

Falls Church (-9.0) @ McLean
*Falls Church wins 24-20.

Hayfield @ Centreville (-28.0)
*Centreville won 42-18. After a 28-6 first quarter the Hawks settled down a bit. Hayfield has definitely had the toughest schedule in the state through 3 games and without a doubt is the best 0-3 public school in the state. Look for Hayfield to win at least 5 of their remaining 7 and make the playoffs. Now that I've seen some more of the "contenders" I am officially ready to jump on the bandwagon and crown Centreville. The scary thing is AJ Turner isn't even back yet!

Jefferson @ Wakefield (-20.0)
*Wakefield wins 49-14. Wakefield is 3-0, 1 more win than all of last year, and Jefferson falls to 0-3.

Lake Braddock @ Westfield (-17.0)
*So, this was the game I was at tonight. First for Lake Braddock, a very different team then I saw last week against Robinson. Looks like they were reading my advice as they put the ball in AJ Alexander's (Ohio State) hands on runs and laterals. When a talent like that touches the ball good things happen. He returned a 95 yard kickoff and ran a 70 yard run on a terrific QB handoff that had the whole stadium fooled. Lake Braddock trailed 23-21 at the half and had just 1 first down. Alexander went down on the kickoff to start the 2nd and I thought they were done. From there though, the receivers ran great routes, the QB was good on his feet and the Bruins kept moving the chains. Fantastic win for the Bruins. But they don't have the power run game to milk clock in the playoffs and the QB's decision making is pretty bad. He throws into double coverage and misses open men all the time, he legit could have had 6 INTs tonight, think he finished with 2 because of luck.

Now with Westfield, good first half moving the ball. Scanlon is a great receiver and Gray is a playmaker when he has the ball in his hands. The problem tonight was the QB missed a couple throws (or incorrect routes) and Westfield had 15+ penalties, 10 offensive holding. Someone blamed the refs above, but Westfield was legit holding on almost every snap. It was refreshing to have refs a) know what a hold is and b) call it consistently. You take away the penalties Westfield probably wins and that is coachable. Not that I am surprised by it, but I struggle to see how this team can beat Centreville, definitely a bit overrated... Until I see South County though, I still have this team as 2 in the region.

Lee @ West Springfield (-7.0)
*West Springfield wins 34-13. The Spartans are definitely a team to keep an eye on right now. After a disappointing opener against South County, the Spartans have smashed their last 3 opponents, including Herndon, who is not that bad this year.

Marshall (-6.5) @ Freedom South Riding
*Freedom wins 30-27. Well shoot, Marshall got a team that was outscored 185-0 and couldn't get the job done. They will have to learn how to win a close game with that streak hanging over them, I believe it reached 30 tonight. This was the most winnable game, but if they played McLean close last week a win is not out of the question. Gets a lot harder though with bigger schools coming up. TJ (0-3) is their best remaining chance next week, but I think TJ is quite a bit better than the Freedom team Marshall lost to tonight. They also have South Lakes who looks like a train wreck. The team is young though, wins will come... I think.

Mount Vernon @ Robinson (-40.0)
*Robinson won 35-7.

South Lakes @ Herndon (-7.0)
*Herndon won 49-0. First year for Coach Taylor, so growing pains inevitable, but wow this must have hurt for the Seahawks fans. This South Lakes team is pretty bad. We'll see how they bounce back, but I think most of their opponents are of a similar skill level to Herndon.

TC Williams @ Langley (-10.0)
*Langley wins 46-35. Yay a good pick, aren't many tonight. Much needed win for the Saxons. If they go into Chantilly and win next week, a great opportunity to put the rough start behind them and build some momentum with several winnable games.

WT Woodson (-3.0) @ West Potomac
*Woodson wins 30-20. Good first win for the Cavs!

Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Stuart
*Washington-Lee wins 41-16.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 20, 2014 12:38AM

Oh shit, forgot the disclaimer :)

*Disclaimer: Betting on these games is strictly prohibited and illegal. The spreads are just to compare the strengths and weaknesses of teams and how I imagine they will stack up against one another. No bets nor cash flow has occurred in the 5 year history of the spread nor will it ever.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: The Governer ()
Date: September 20, 2014 09:54AM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> metcp Wrote:
>
> > No. It is illegal to produce
> number/points/spreads
> > on a public forum such as this.
>
> Show me where:
>
>
> http://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode
>
>
> Your turn.

Loser,
for it to be illegal there actually has to be a bet placed and money exchanged.

Illegal gambling" means the making, placing or receipt of any bet or wager in the Commonwealth of money or other thing of value, made in exchange for a chance to win a prize, stake or other consideration or thing of value, dependent upon the result of any game, contest or any other event the outcome of which is uncertain or a matter of chance, whether such game, contest or event occurs or is to occur inside or outside the limits of the Commonwealth.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: football observer ()
Date: September 20, 2014 09:32PM

I enjoy the point spreads but let's keep in mind how Fairfax County police deal with small-time bookmakers. I don't want to see anyone die.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/01/in-virginia-death-penalty-for-gambling/

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Harry Potter ()
Date: September 21, 2014 07:34AM

football observer Wrote:
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> I enjoy the point spreads but let's keep in mind
> how Fairfax County police deal with small-time
> bookmakers. I don't want to see anyone die.
> http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/01/in-virgini
> a-death-penalty-for-gambling/

Football Observer
Hopefully you die a most painful death soon...

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: YOOOOOOOOOOOO ()
Date: September 21, 2014 06:02PM

yall sleeping on soco. they are the 2nd best team in d6 easy

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Maybe ()
Date: September 21, 2014 07:26PM

SoCo has a much improved defense from a year ago, and they pretty much shut down Chantilly on offense. They have a new MLB who plays with great energy and anchors the defense and they stop the run and get a good pass rush. The secondary is much improved with two good corners and safeties (they got burned repeatedly last year at corner -- several times against Chantilly).

The SC offense fumbled the ball repeatedly on Friday and gave Chantilly good field position several times, letting them stay in the game. I think SC fumbled the ball a total of 7 times on offense and once on special teams (muffed punt return catch). Without the fumbles they would have scored in the 50-60 point range. Do that against a good team and you will have a very long night. The SoCo offense looks ok (when they are not fumbling), but they do not have the explosive triple option offense they had last year. They still run it and play up-tempo, but they tag team two junior QB's, both of whom look a little confused some times. If they can take care of the ball and cut down the mistakes they could have a very good season.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: September 21, 2014 07:42PM

Maybe Wrote:
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> SoCo has a much improved defense from a year ago,
> and they pretty much shut down Chantilly on
> offense.

I wouldn't read to much into that - Madison pretty much shut down Chantilly's offense. In fact, Madison held them to 10.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Call me maybe not ()
Date: September 21, 2014 08:19PM

Soco's O was more explosive last year but the big difference is lack of continuity on drives with poor ball security. When they take care of it they are pretty good. 1 QB is a jr. but the other is a Soph. Both are really good athletes from what I have seen. Soco is still avg 41 pts a game 460 yds of O a game with 287 a game on the ground and 14 TDs. Defense seems much better than last year.Wash Post shows 1 back with 458 rush yds and 1 with 450 so they still seem to have a good running attack. Cville is still on top but Robinson is another dangerous team on the rise. They also have a good rushing attack and good D. Westfield and lake braddock are also still dangerous and will be around for the playoff hunt.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: The Truth hurts ()
Date: September 21, 2014 08:40PM

Soco has not played any quality teams yet and will be exposed once they meet up with LB and go down in the playoffs.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Best 0 & 3 ()
Date: September 21, 2014 08:56PM

Hayfield collective ego mass coaching staff going nuts over 'the best 0-3 public school in the state' Way to go!!! You guys are the best losers in the state!!!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 23, 2014 11:00AM

Well I picked a good week to go out of town as there is not a real exciting matchup. Still though, should be a number of close and exciting games for the first Friday of Fall.

Centreville (-28.0) @ West Springfield
*Spartans playing good football, great opportunity for them to showcase their talent. Centreville should still cruise.

Hayfield (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Hayfield’s difficult schedule will pay dividends from this point forward, look for them to start a nice steak.

Herndon @ Robinson (-17.0)
*Herndon has looked good this year, but don’t think they will be able to stop Robinson’s run game. Still should be a good Concorde football game.

Lake Braddock (-17.0) @ Annandale
*Annandale has a great opportunity to show they can compete against the contenders. I think Annandale has a nice team this year, but still not enough firepower to stay in this one.

Langley @ Chantilly (-7.0)
*Should be a good game. The last several times these schools have played each other, we’ve been treated to several thrillers. Both teams aren’t real strong this year though.

Marshall @ Jefferson (-9.0)
*Marshall’s best remaining shot at a win. Both teams come in 0-3. The quality may not be great, but this should be a pretty even game.

Mount Vernon @ Stuart (-7.0)

Oakton (-15.0) @ West Potomac

South County (-35.0) @ Lee

South Lakes @ McLean (-10.0)

Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Madison
*Potential game of the week candidate.

TC Williams @ WT Woodson (-6.0)
*I look for Woodson to score the upset and build on their momentum.

Wakefield (-10.0) @ Edison
*Good game out in Alexandria. Both teams have playmakers and these two schools do like one another.

Westfield (-31.0) @ Fairfax
*Westfield bounces back big.

Yorktown @ Falls Church (-3.0)
*Here is a good matchup. Falls Church (3-0) will get their toughest test to date. I will reluctantly pick Falls Church here.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: LOLL ()
Date: September 23, 2014 06:24PM

Jesus Christ Marshall is god awful.... They need to discontinue the football program over there. I mean shit enough is enough..

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: September 23, 2014 06:27PM

Part of me feels bad for Marshall. They were close in their last two games against Mclean and Freedom. They'll likely lose another close game to Jefferson. Maybe they'll have a shot against South Lakes? I would like to see those boys break the streak.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Remember the Statesmen ()
Date: September 23, 2014 06:48PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Part of me feels bad for Marshall. They were close
> in their last two games against Mclean and
> Freedom. They'll likely lose another close game to
> Jefferson. Maybe they'll have a shot against South
> Lakes? I would like to see those boys break the
> streak.

Marshall last victory was October 21, 2011 over TJ. I think SteveK2 is just tired of urging them on at this point, but I'll pick them over TJ this week. I've seen TJ and they are flat-out awful.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Miles Joseph ()
Date: September 24, 2014 05:50PM

There has been some confusion regarding the extent of the injury Burke (Va.) Lake Braddock wide receiver/H-back Aramis Alexander suffered in his last game, a win over Chantilly (Va.) Westfield. Alexander had a 69-yard TD run and a 95-yard kickoff return before leaving the game with an unknown leg injury.

Fortunately, the Buckeye commit doesn't think the injury is as bad as some might think.

"I'm not really sure (what the exact injury is)," Alexander told BuckeyeGrove.com on Monday evening. "Hopefully it's just a bone bruise."

Things should become even clearer in the coming days as to how serious the injury is.

Alexander also confirmed that he will be taking his official visit to Ohio State this weekend to watch the Buckeyes take on the Cincinnati Bearcats under the lights Saturday night.

He is ranked as a 3-star and is rated as the No. 69 wide receiver in the 2015 class according to Rivals.com and is likely to see significant time at the H-back position upon his arrival in Columbus (Ohio).

Alexander picked Ohio State over Wisconsin less than two weeks ago and held offers from 20-some schools before coming to a decision.

BuckeyeGrove.com will have more on this developing story as more information becomes available.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: September 25, 2014 01:20PM

What about Djoun Lee? His injury looked way more serious.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Va rivals ()
Date: September 25, 2014 03:42PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Well I picked a good week to go out of town as
> there is not a real exciting matchup. Still
> though, should be a number of close and exciting
> games for the first Friday of Fall.
>
> Centreville (-28.0) @ West Springfield
> *Spartans playing good football, great opportunity
> for them to showcase their talent. Centreville
> should still cruise.
>
> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee
> *Hayfield’s difficult schedule will pay
> dividends from this point forward, look for them
> to start a nice steak.
>
> Herndon @ Robinson (-17.0)
> *Herndon has looked good this year, but don’t
> think they will be able to stop Robinson’s run
> game. Still should be a good Concorde football
> game.
>
> Lake Braddock (-17.0) @ Annandale
> *Annandale has a great opportunity to show they
> can compete against the contenders. I think
> Annandale has a nice team this year, but still not
> enough firepower to stay in this one.
>
> Langley @ Chantilly (-7.0)
> *Should be a good game. The last several times
> these schools have played each other, we’ve been
> treated to several thrillers. Both teams aren’t
> real strong this year though.
>
> Marshall @ Jefferson (-9.0)
> *Marshall’s best remaining shot at a win. Both
> teams come in 0-3. The quality may not be great,
> but this should be a pretty even game.
>
> Mount Vernon @ Stuart (-7.0)
>
> Oakton (-15.0) @ West Potomac
>
> South County (-35.0) @ Lee
>
> South Lakes @ McLean (-10.0)
>
> Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Madison
> *Potential game of the week candidate.
>
> TC Williams @ WT Woodson (-6.0)
> *I look for Woodson to score the upset and build
> on their momentum.
>
> Wakefield (-10.0) @ Edison
> *Good game out in Alexandria. Both teams have
> playmakers and these two schools do like one
> another.
>
> Westfield (-31.0) @ Fairfax
> *Westfield bounces back big.
>
> Yorktown @ Falls Church (-3.0)
> *Here is a good matchup. Falls Church (3-0) will
> get their toughest test to date. I will
> reluctantly pick Falls Church here.



BATTLEFIELD AT POTOMAC

Battlefield has won the last six meetings against Potomac but barely escaped with a 10-9 victory last season. The 2014 Bobcats appear to be much stronger than last year's team however as they've opened the year with four straight convincing wins with no one playing them to within three touchdowns. Quarterback Matt Gallagher has to be in discussion for regional player of the year already as he thrown for nearly 700 yards with eight touchdowns and only one pick to date. The Panthers defense should present a challenge however as they've allowed only 40 points in three games with no one scoring more than 20 on them so far. The problem for them is that the Bobcats are a step up in competition from the teams that they've played to date...Battlefield 31, Potomac 13

STONEWALL JACKSON AT GAR-FIELD

Stonewall has won two straight here after Gar-Field collected three straight from 2009-2011. Two weeks ago, the Raiders looked prime to be the top team in Prince William County having toppled Potomac and Hylton to open the season, but back-to-back losses for Forest Park and Woodbridge has dampened enthusiasm for the 2014 squad though they weren't blown out by either. Running back Reggie Floyd has established himself as perhaps the top playmaker in NoVa this year following back-to-back 200+ yard performances. Gar-Field may have trouble containing him as the defense has been hit for 75 points in three games though they've played both Patriot and Battlefield, two power programs. Still, the Indians have not found a consistent offensive attack and that will hurt them here...Stonewall Jackson 28, Gar-Field 7

OSBOURN AT WOODBRIDGE

Woodbridge has won three of the last four meetings and three of the four battles have been decided by less than a touchdown. The Eagles need a win badly after dropping their first four games scoring only 24 points getting into double digits only once on the year. The Vikings have alternated losses with wins but they've played some rugged competition early having met Battlefield, Patriot and Stonewall Jackson already. Quarterback Mike Majette is having a big year and he could still lead the team back to the postseason for the third consecutive season. Look for the Vikes to get a winning streak going here...Woodbridge 26, Osbourn 6

FOREST PARK AT OSBOURN PARK

Osborn Park has won six of the last seven meetings including a 12-7 victory last season when the Yellowjackets were a 5-5 program and the Bruins were a state quarter finalist. Forest Park opened the season sourly losing to Patriot and Battlefield before they surprised Stonewall Jackson 33-20 last week. Quarterback Nathan Perrin is playing well as the Bruins offense is averaging 31.6 points per game on the year. Osbourn Park has not come out of the gate well losing four straight scoring only 31 points to date. Despite the recent dominance of the 'Jackets, I'd figure Forest Park to even their record on Friday night...Forest Park 36, Osbourn Park 7

HYLTON AT PATRIOT

Hylton dominated the first meeting between the two schools in 2012 collecting a 42-3 victory but Patriot answered back with a 31-21 win last season opening what should be an outstanding rivalry through the coming years. The 2014 Bulldogs roughed up Osbourn and Osbourn Park but sandwiched in-between those wins was a stunning 18-16 loss to Stonewall Jackson in a game that they led most of the way. Freshman running back Ricky Slade looks like one of the next great ones from the state and Donovan Williams has settled well into the behind center. Patriot has quickly established themselves as a top contender in North by winning their first four games and scoring 34 or more in each though the defense has allowed 96 points during that time frame and that includes a shutout win over Gar-Field. Quarterback Cody Agnew and wideout Nick Mathews are potentially the most dangerous combination in the Commonwealth. It's going to be one of the highlight games of the season with explosive plays making big plays all over the field; the Pioneers have a bit more experience in those type games...Patriot 39, Hylton 35

CENTREVILLE AT WEST SPRINGFIELD

Things got out of hand quickly last season as Centreville notched a 63-0 win over West Springfield, their sixth win in the last seven meetings. The area's premier power program, the Wildcats have responded well to their opening week loss to Gonzaga (D.C.) by bouncing West Potomac 54-0 and Hayfield 42-18 behind running back Kyle Richbourg whose totaled 296 yards and five scores on the year stepping in for Taylor Boose. West Springfield has been one of the better early-season stories winning three of their first four games after finishing 3-7 last season. Running back Adis Ojeda is shouldering the bulk of the load with 522 yards and eight touchdowns to date. The Spartans are a program on the upswing and this will be a nice measuring stick game for them as they look to continue climbing, but they'll have to play their best game to hang with the 'Cats right now...Centreville 48, West Springfield 14

LANGLEY AT CHANTILLY

Chantilly won all six meetings from 2007-2012, but Langley turned things around last year with a 42-21 win over the Chargers. Likewise, the Saxons got off to a slow start this season dropping games to Yorktown and Stone Bridge before bouncing back with a 46-35 win over T.C. Williams with running back Tyler West rushing for 297 yards. Conversely, the Chargers opened with back-to-back wins over Lee and Madison before getting dumped by South County last week. Following their 38-point outburst in week one, Chantilly has totaled only 21 points in the last two games. This contest should be one of the most exciting in the area as West should find room to work while the Chargers offense should find success against the Saxons defense, as well. It could go either way...Langley 30, Chantilly 28

HERNDON AT ROBINSON

Robinson has collected six straight wins and back-to-back shutouts in a series that rarely includes close games. The Hornets have been pretty good this season though, especially on the offensive side where quarterback Ryan McLaughlin has thrown for 627 yards and rushed for 228 accounting for 11 touchdowns in three games. The Rams were expected to be a solid team this season but they are exceeding expectations with a 4-0 start that included a win over Lake Braddock two weeks ago. They've worked hard to establish their running game all season but they tossed in some passing last week as quarterback Jack Rowlett gave future opponents something to worry about by throwing for 205 yards on 7 of 9 passing. Both defenses will be pushed in this one but the Rams seemingly have too many weapons...Robinson 37, Herndon 20

OAKTON AT WEST POTOMAC

In three meetings since 2003, Oakton has swept West Potomac but last season was a battle as they snuck out a 28-27 win. The Cougars unexpectedly fell to Annandale last Friday in a 14-10 contest that spoke quite a bit to their offensive struggles as they've scored only 75 points in four games with kicker Nick Delgado proving to be their most reliable weapon so far. The Wolverines are also struggling on the offensive side totaling only 40 points in four games including the 20 that put up on Woodson last week in a ten-point loss. Fortunately for Oakton, their defense has kept them in their games while West Pot has had problems slowing opponents...Oakton 28, West Potomac 10

WESTFIELD AT FAIRFAX

In their last nine meetings, Westfield has won each game and has scored at least 30 points in eight of the nine contests while Fairfax has only scored into double digits once during that same time frame. The Bulldogs suffered a somewhat surprising loss to Lake Braddock last week which dropped them to 2-1 on the season and the defense has been hit for 69 points the last two weeks. They'll be looking for some answers on that side of the ball this week, for sure. Though the Rebels scored 38 against Woodson in their lone win, they've only put up 21 points in their two losses, so they will be searching on the offensive side. The Bulldogs should be able to score enough points to run away from the Rebels early in this one...Westfield 37, Fairfax 14

STONE BRIDGE AT MADISON

Stone Bridge has won the last five games between the two schools including a 42-0 win in 2012 and a 42-6 romp last season. The Bulldogs defense is playing outstanding football right now as they've allowed only 36 points in three games against some tough competition (Lake Braddock, Langley and Broad Run). The run-heavy attack has been a bit slow by Stone Bridge standards but the emergence of Chance Frye as a top-level playmaker to complement Collin Buckley should help them improve their efficiency. Coming off a 1-9 season, there weren't a lot of expectations placed upon the Warhawks this season, but they look like a program who might sneak make a return to the postseason following a one-year absence as they sit at 2-2 only eight points away from being undefeated as they fell to Oakton 16-14 and Chantilly 7-3. They can give Stone Bridge fits in this game, especially early, but the Bulldogs still have a bit too much firepower for them...Stone Bridge 33, Madison 13

SOUTH LAKES AT McLEAN

McLean has won four straight in this series but three of those have been decided by a touchdown or less including last season's 13-12 win. The Seahawks could use a close game right about now as they'll enter this game 0-4 with no games decided by fewer than eleven points and they were blanked last Friday by Herndon who topped them 49-0. The Highlanders new spread attack opened the season on fire as quarterback Brian Maffei threw for 366 yards and five touchdowns in week one in a 35-29 win over Washington-Lee. However, he's missed the last two games slowing the attack some though C.J. Downey has thrown for 367 yards in relief. I'm not sure that the South Lakes defense has played well enough this season to think that they could slow the Highlanders here...McLean 34, South Lakes 16

HAYFIELD AT WASHINGTON-LEE

Washington-Lee snapped a three-year winning streak in this series last season with a 23-21 win over the Hawks. hayfield comes into this game badly in need of a win as they fell to 0-3 last week when they were dropped by Centreville adding to their losses to South County and Westfield (though very few teams in the state would make it through that schedule with anything but an 0-3 mark). Washington-Lee fell to McLean by a touchdown in week one before besting South Lakes and Stuart to move to 2-1 entering this game. The Generals will tested by the Hayfield passing attack which is not a good thing considering that McLean threw for 366 yards against them in week one...Hayfield 36, Washington-Lee 22

YORKTOWN AT FALLS CHURCH

Yorktown has won eight consecutive contests in this series but a 17-14 victory last year was the first indication that Falls Church has closed the gap between the two programs. Quarterback Joe McBride is having a solid season and running back Jack Stoors is doing a nice job replacing all-stater M.J. Stewart as the Pats have opened winning two of three. The Jaguars have won a couple of tight battles in racing out to a 3-0 start that has seen quarterback Brian Eck tearing up opposing defenses including a 307-yard, six-touchdown performance against Jefferson. It's going to be one heck of a battle, but this is the year that the streak ends...Falls Church 27, Yorktown 23

LAKE BRADDOCK AT ANNANDALE

Lake Braddock has collected wins in five straight meetings between the two schools including a 68-0 win last season. Both teams will come into this one riding a high as the Bruins pulled a minor upset in besting Westfield 36-23 last week while Annandale shocked Oakton 14-10. If not for a failed two-point conversion against Robinson, the Bruins could be undefeated on the year as quarterback Kyle Edwards has been outstanding as has running back Dejoun Lee. The Atoms are only three points from being undefeated as well as they fell to Falls Church 14-12 in their opener with running back Devin Hamlett shouldering most of the load. After bouncing back from their loss to the Rams, the Bruins are probably too sharp to get caught looking past the Atoms here...Lake Braddock 36, Annandale 16

SOUTH COUNTY AT LEE

South County has dominated the series of late winning the last seven and they've outscored Lee 110-15 in the past two meetings. The Stallions offense, paced by Robert Avery and Gerald Hulett, has been among the best in the state putting up at least 34 in each of their first four contests. The Lancers scored 20 in their three-point win over Edison but failed to put up more than 15 in their other three games. It seems unlikely that they'll be able to keep pace with a Stallions program that has steadily been climbing the Class 6A rankings...South County 49, Lee 13

T.C. WILLIAMS AT WOODSON

A 21-14 T.C. Williams win snapped a two-game Woodson winning streak in this series, but it's been tight as the last three battles have all been decided by a touchdown or less. The Titans made a run to the postseason last year but they've stumbled out of the gates this year falling to Oakton and Langley after besting Dunbar (D.C.) in their opener. Woodson just picked up their first win of the season when they topped West Potomac 30-20 last Friday. Both teams can turn in big plays but Cavaliers quarterback Patrick Riley will likely be the best playmaker on the field having totaled 801 yards and eight scores on the season...Woodson 35, T.C. Williams 33

MARSHALL AT JEFFERSON

Jefferson has won two straight here by solid margins topping Marshall 42-18 in 2012 and 35-7 last year. The Statesmen come in riding a 25-game losing streak but they've nearly broken it in each of the last two weeks falling to McLean 21-20 and to Freedom (LC) 30-27. Jefferson has lost seven straight including their opening three this season where they've scored two touchdowns in each game while allowing at least 35 to all three opponents. Will the Statesmen finally break through after two close calls? It would not surprise, but the Colonials have enough on the roster to extend the streak as well...Jefferson 14, Marshall 13

WAKEFIELD AT EDISON

Thomas Edison has won all fifteen games between these two programs since 1999 including a 45-14 win in 2013. As detailed in my NoVa Recap Report on Monday, however, this is a different Warriors program taking the field as they've opened the season with three wins already tying their best season on last decade. The Eagles came out of the gate flying with a win over Mount Vernon but have been dropped by West Springfield, Lee and Yorktown since to fall to 1-3. Given their history, Edison has to enter this contest as the favorite, especially given that Wakefield's wins came over Marshall, George Mason and Jefferson, but it won't be easy to grab a win here as it's been of late...Edison 26, Wakefield 14

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Eye in Sky ()
Date: September 26, 2014 02:21PM

Damn, nice summaries.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: copied ()
Date: September 26, 2014 05:09PM

summaries copied from Virginia Preps.com

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 26, 2014 08:39PM

Some scores at half...

Centreville 14 @ West Springfield 0

Langley 7 @ Chantilly 0

Westfield 28 @ Fairfax 0

Oakton 20 @ West Potomac 14

Yorktown 7 @ Falls Church 21

Hayfield 14 @ Washington Lee 0

Marshall 7 @ Madison 0
*Is this the night?

Stone Bridge 14 @ Madison 3

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: September 26, 2014 10:17PM

Steve, hahahahahahha the one week you don't pick Marshall in a winnable game :) They finally did it!

Your picks appear to be closer than almost all the VA Prep predictions though, job well done this week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Remember the Statesmen ()
Date: September 26, 2014 10:24PM

Remember the Statesmen Wrote:
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> NovaCoach Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Part of me feels bad for Marshall. They were
> close
> > in their last two games against Mclean and
> > Freedom. They'll likely lose another close game
> to
> > Jefferson. Maybe they'll have a shot against
> South
> > Lakes? I would like to see those boys break the
> > streak.
>
> Marshall last victory was October 21, 2011 over
> TJ. I think SteveK2 is just tired of urging them
> on at this point, but I'll pick them over TJ this
> week. I've seen TJ and they are flat-out awful.

Called it. Too bad GCM can't play schools that are 70% Asian every week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 28, 2014 12:38PM

Well 13-2 on outright picks this week, that is more like it. Point spreads were also pretty spot on. 2 more games correct than VA Preps "the experts" too. So please keep that shit off the board, I would hate to have double the "illegal" activity.


Centreville (-28.0) @ West Springfield
*Centreville won 31-0. Close prediction. What's crazy is how many people are saying West Springfield played great and still lost 31-0 and from what I've heard they did play well. Kind of crazy how good Centreville is and they are missing 2 of their biggest weapons still.

Hayfield (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee
*Hayfield won 49-20. Been saying it all along, that early season schedule will pay huge benefits for Hayfield the duration of the regular season.

Herndon @ Robinson (-17.0)
*Robinson won 56-21. Herndon is a lot better, but a lot better may not be Concorde quality.

Lake Braddock (-17.0) @ Annandale
*Lake Braddock won 28-17. Annandale got a couple of TDs at the end once Braddock jumped out to a commanding lead. Still though, Annandale is a good middle of the pack team.

Langley @ Chantilly (-7.0)
*Chantilly won 20-7. Great 2nd half for the Chargers. Centreville is next...

Marshall @ Jefferson (-9.0)
*Marshall wins 28-14. Good for the Statesmen!

Mount Vernon @ Stuart (-7.0)
*Stuart won 21-10. Good spread.

Oakton (-15.0) @ West Potomac
*West Potomac won 27-20, good win for the Wolverines. Oakton, Centreville beat this team by 51 points, better get your act together.

South County (-35.0) @ Lee
*South County beat Lee 56-6. Big spreads for the Stallions, they like to run it up in the 4th.

South Lakes @ McLean (-10.0)
*McLean won 36-31. Seahawks still winless. With TJ and Marshall on their schedule do they even get to 2 wins?

Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Madison
*Stone Bridge won 28-17. The takeaway though, Madison is this year's most improved team.

TC Williams @ WT Woodson (-6.0)
*WT Woodson won 56-21. Dang, TC Williams has taken a nose dive.

Wakefield (-10.0) @ Edison
*Wakefield won 21-6.

Westfield (-31.0) @ Fairfax
*Westfield won 36-0.

Yorktown @ Falls Church (-3.0)
*Falls Church won 28-14.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Couger Mom ()
Date: September 28, 2014 02:55PM

JOakton will lose the next 5 games...take it to the bank

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:47PM

Annandale (-10.0) @ TC Williams

Battlefield @ Hylton (-7.0)
*Game of the Week: I’ve never done spreads for PW county and doubt this one will be accurate, I include this though, as I think this is going to be a great game with a couple teams that can make some noise in the postseason. I may make the drive on Thursday. I expect this to be a close one and caught glimpses of Hylton online last week, and they are pretty damn athletic. Then Battlefield is always big and well coached, should be a good one.

Chantilly @ Centreville (-30.5)
*Pulling for the Chargers to give Centreville a game, but Centreville is going to squash Chantilly’s repetitive I-formation and Centreville has too many athletes to contain. Teams will not stop Centreville, the only way to beat them is to score, and Chantilly cannot do that against more athletic teams.

Fairfax (-16.0) @ Jefferson
*Jefferson comes in 0-4 and gets to the meet of their schedule. I can see them competing with South Lakes though in a few weeks, am I crazy?

Herndon (-14.0) @ McLean
*This has the potential to be a good game. Definitely one I can actually see McLean making a game of. I just think Herndon is pretty good this year, don’t let their Concorde performances fool you into thinking otherwise.

Marshall @ Langley (-24.0)
*Saxons looking to bounce back after coming off a tough start to the season. I think they do it in a big way against Marshall Thursday.

Stuart @ Yorktown (-10.0)

Wakefield @ Hayfield (-7.5)
*This is a great game, probably game of the week in Fairfax County. Great chance for undefeated Wakefield to show they are for real against a decent D6 team. Look for Hayfield to stockpile W’s the rest of the way though.

Washington-Lee @ Falls Church (-7.0)

Westfield (-7.0) @ Stone Bridge
*Battle of the Bulldogs, two perennial powers. All the good games are far away, but this is probably one of the most interesting. Leaning toward this one, this is the Northern Region game of the week for sure.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: September 30, 2014 09:48PM

Limited slate of games with several teams on the bye. Still many great matchups and more than last week.

Annandale (-10.0) @ TC Williams

Battlefield @ Hylton (-7.0)
*Game of the Week: I’ve never done spreads for PW county and doubt this one will be accurate, I include this though, as I think this is going to be a great game with a couple teams that can make some noise in the postseason. I may make the drive on Thursday. I expect this to be a close one and caught glimpses of Hylton online last week, and they are pretty damn athletic. Then Battlefield is always big and well coached, should be a good one.

Chantilly @ Centreville (-30.5)
*Pulling for the Chargers to give Centreville a game, but Centreville is going to squash Chantilly’s repetitive I-formation and Centreville has too many athletes to contain. Teams will not stop Centreville, the only way to beat them is to score, and Chantilly cannot do that against more athletic teams.

Fairfax (-16.0) @ Jefferson
*Jefferson comes in 0-4 and gets to the meet of their schedule. I can see them competing with South Lakes though in a few weeks, am I crazy?

Herndon (-14.0) @ McLean
*This has the potential to be a good game. Definitely one I can actually see McLean making a game of. I just think Herndon is pretty good this year, don’t let their Concorde performances fool you into thinking otherwise.

Marshall @ Langley (-24.0)
*Saxons looking to bounce back after coming off a tough start to the season. I think they do it in a big way against Marshall Thursday.

Stuart @ Yorktown (-10.0)

Wakefield @ Hayfield (-7.5)
*This is a great game, probably game of the week in Fairfax County. Great chance for undefeated Wakefield to show they are for real against a decent D6 team. Look for Hayfield to stockpile W’s the rest of the way though.

Washington-Lee @ Falls Church (-7.0)

Westfield (-7.0) @ Stone Bridge
*Battle of the Bulldogs, two perennial powers. All the good games are far away, but this is probably one of the most interesting. Leaning toward this one, this is the Northern Region game of the week for sure.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NR Fanatic ()
Date: October 01, 2014 02:28PM

This is way more informative than the other board. Good post.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:21AM

I differ on 4 picks. I think Hayfield and Falls Church both win by +14.

I think Battlefield will win over Hylton.

I would pick Stone Bridge over Westfield. Look for Westfield to be 3-3 after next week's loss to Centreville.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NR Fan 2009 ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:49AM

RydelllRoad,

If Westfield loses tonight and next week to Centreville, do they have a shot against a most likely undefeated Robinson team the following week? When's the last time Westfield had a losing record (3-4) heading into week 8?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:58AM

I could see Stone Bridge getting the win in Ashburn, but I feel pretty confident in my Westfield pick. 3-3 would be hard to fathom for sure, the only other time I recall Westfield being at .500 that late was in 2010 when they were 4-4.

I like Robinson's team a lot, but having seen both teams play, Westfield is better. I know in the common opponent category with Lake Braddock advantage goes to Robinson, but Westfield will be able to limit Robinson's run and put up enough points to win. I see Westfield at 5-2 through 7, and I am telling who ever will listen, their game against Centreville next week will be closer than people think. Westfield probably has the game of the week for the next 3.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2014 11:20AM

NR Fan 2009 Wrote:
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> RydelllRoad,
>
> If Westfield loses tonight and next week to
> Centreville, do they have a shot against a most
> likely undefeated Robinson team the following
> week? When's the last time Westfield had a losing
> record (3-4) heading into week 8?


Robinson game should be a coin toss - I thought they were significantly better than Robinson last year but both games were tight from start to finish and Westfield took the regular season game 14-13 and the playoff game 21-14. They just had a hard time moving the ball consistently and scoring. And Robinson seems to have an even tougher defense this year.

But to answer your question - Westfield was 3-4 in 2009 (won their last 5 to finish 6-4).

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2014 11:21AM

Oh, and Stone Bridge beat Westfield both of those years by 3 points - 2009/2010. Picked the right years to play them for sure.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: 335 ()
Date: October 02, 2014 12:11PM

I agree with Rydellroad.... look for hayfield to lay the points on wakefield..

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 02, 2014 01:58PM

This spread has Fairfax favored by 16 over Jefferson. Fairfax should handle Jefferson easily, but given how they have looked so far, there isn't much justification for a spread higher than 16 points.

Next week's game v. Langley will be hugely important for both teams.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:23PM

Westfield and Stone Bridge scoreless through 1; Westfield put together a good drive, ended in an INT.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:40PM

80 seconds in 14-0 Centreville over Chantilly, this is going to be ugly.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:45PM

Cville scores again on first play. 21-0 8 minutes to go in 1st. Centreville has 2 key players back tonight.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:54PM

3rd possession where Centreville takes just one play to score. 27-0 Centreville

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 07:55PM

Stone Bridge and Westfield are in a defensive battle. 3-0 SB at the half.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 08:25PM

Westfield blocks the FG and returns it 90 yards for a TD, 7-3 Westfield.

Centreville 41-0 over Chantilly.

Herndon 24-15 over McLean

Washington Lee 14-7 over Falls Church

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Stateless ()
Date: October 02, 2014 08:43PM

And Langley 35-0 over Marshall at half. Looking like that celebration at TJ was a one-time deal and that Marshall is returning to form.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:04PM

Langley 42-0 over Marshall

Fairfax 34-14 over TJ

Westfield 15-9 over Stone Bridge in 4th.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Conf 5 Observer ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:28PM

Anyone who thinks Westfield or Robinson stands a chance at beating Centreville has obviously not seen this team play. There is no stopping this machine. I got my first look at them tonight they’re special.

BTW Chantilly going 0-5 in Concorde play, they really got nothing.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:29PM

Westfield wins 15-9. Game of the year next week against Centreville at home. D is good enough to stop Centreville a few times, but Centreville is the heavy favorite. Where was Scanlon tonight?

Centreville wins 48-0. Chantilly just got manhandled tonight. I don't care how good Centreville is, 4 TDs on the first play untouched is pathetic. Centreville has a lot more fire power back with the two kids back each putting up 150+ yards and still no AJ Turner... Wow. Anyone know if he is going to play this year?

Hayfield 28-3 over Wakefield.

Langley up 56-7 over Marshall

Fairfax over TJ 41-21 at the moment.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:35PM

Conf 5 Observer Wrote:
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> Anyone who thinks Westfield or Robinson stands a
> chance at beating Centreville has obviously not
> seen this team play. There is no stopping this
> machine. I got my first look at them tonight
> they’re special.
>
> BTW Chantilly going 0-5 in Concorde play, they
> really got nothing.


As bad as Chantilly looked and is, they're still better than Oakton and Herndon. It's the weakest I've seen Chantilly and Oakton in quite some time, Herndon is actually better than most years and could get a win against Chantilly or Oakton but I don't think so.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Conf 5 observer ()
Date: October 02, 2014 09:58PM

I'll agree to disagree until next Friday. Oakton wins next week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 02, 2014 10:39PM

OK, I picked wrong on Westfield v. SB. I must concede I underestimated Stone Bridge's total dearth of playmakers on offense. Other than monstrously large O/D lines (including LB's) they really don't have that much. Westfield still not getting enough production out of the QB position. They just don't have much of a plan B when their 4-5 go-to plays aren't working.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 02, 2014 11:40PM

Some other final scores from tonight.

Marshall 7 @ Langley 63

W&L 33 @ Falls Church 28
*crazy ending, Falls Church was up 28-21 with 2 minutes, let W&L march down field for TD, miss the tying xp. W&L then recovers an onside kick, it was like Falls Church didn't even know it was coming and W&L recovered and scored another TD for the win. After the game I heard there was a fight with players and coaches involved, looked like a verbal one, but still pretty heated.

Fairfax 41 @ TJ 28

Wakefield 10 @ Hayfield 37

Annandale 61 @ TC Williams 40
*Titans have lost their defensive identity

Herndon 51 @ McLean 35

Yorktown 35 Stuart 10

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Know nothing ()
Date: October 03, 2014 08:34AM

On Falls Church and WL game: with 2 seconds on the clock. Will Mejia was dragged down in the end zone in what appeared to be a clear pass interference but no call. Good game bad calls. When both teams were shaking hands words were exchanged. Coaches in both sides jumped in and separated the teams. No fighting seen from my standpoint.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Water Boy ()
Date: October 03, 2014 10:36AM

Know nothing Wrote:
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> On Falls Church and WL game: with 2 seconds on the
> clock. Will Mejia was dragged down in the end zone
> in what appeared to be a clear pass interference
> but no call. Good game bad calls. When both teams
> were shaking hands words were exchanged. Coaches
> in both sides jumped in and separated the teams.
> No fighting seen from my standpoint.

Sounds like FC blew it by not anticipating the earlier onside kick, but what penalty would have been assessed had pass interference been called?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Johnny Football ()
Date: October 03, 2014 12:28PM

Game cannot end on defensive penalty. 15 yard penalty and one untimed down would have followed.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 03, 2014 10:51PM

WESTFIELD 15 - STONE BRIDGE 9 (MANHATTAN PIZZA POST GAME SHOW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-ItgfTtpfI&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: high school hogs ()
Date: October 04, 2014 10:56AM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> OK, I picked wrong on Westfield v. SB. I must
> concede I underestimated Stone Bridge's total
> dearth of playmakers on offense. Other than
> monstrously large O/D lines (including LB's) they
> really don't have that much. Westfield still not
> getting enough production out of the QB position.
> They just don't have much of a plan B when their
> 4-5 go-to plays aren't working.

How does Stone Bridge recruit all those big guys? They have 11 players 6'3" or taller, 11 players 240 lbs +, 7 both.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Stone Bridge minus ()
Date: October 04, 2014 04:18PM

Not trying to make any excuses, as I am not a big Stone Bridge fan, but their running back/LB, and best player on the field on both sides, # 5 Colin Buckley, missed entire game due to a concussion.

He plays, they beat Westfield.

Centreville by 28 or more next week, boys. Count on it.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Westfield minus ()
Date: October 04, 2014 05:31PM

Not trying to make excuses, but Westfield's dynamic speedster and return man #22 Dominique Pearson did not suit up for the game. But yeah, Centreville will by at least 28 probably 35.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 08, 2014 10:01PM

Centreville (-27.0) @ Westfield
*Game of the Week: Quite frankly game of the season. I do think these are the best teams locally, maybe a Prince William team, Lake Braddock, South County, or Robinson will have something to say about it, but if I’m a betting man I am picking Westfield to be in the NR final if they can get on the opposite side of the bracket of Centreville. The spread is big, but if Turner is coming back too, Centreville is so good. IF Westfield can slow down the run game and make Ferrick throw this will be a lot more interesting a game.

Chantilly @ Oakton (-6.5)
*With the game at Oakton I’ll give them the edge. This can go either way though.

Falls Church (-7.0) @ Wakefield
*This should be a good and close game. Both teams coming off their first loss will be hungry.

Jefferson @ South Lakes (-10.0)
*The battle of the winless. I am tempted to pick TJ but with South Lakes having played a tougher schedule and having more athletes, I will give the edge to the Seahawks.

Lake Braddock (-20.5) @ WT Woodson

Langley (-14.0) @ Fairfax

Lee @ Annandale (-9.0)

Madison @ Robinson (-20.0)
*Madison played both Chantilly and Oakton to 7 point losses, I think Robinson is definitely a tier higher than those two schools, but with Madison’s D, if they can contain the run this could be low scoring, I just don’t think Madison will be able to.

McLean @ Stone Bridge (-30.0)
*SB isn’t great this year, but coming off a loss in Ashburn, McLean will be a sacrificial lamb.

Mount Vernon @ Washington-Lee (-14.0)

Stuart (-15.0) @ Marshall

TC Williams @ South County (-40.0)
*With TC’s defense, South County should score every possession the starters are in, and Panonni loves to run up the score (nothing wrong with that).

West Potomac @ West Springfield (-7.0)
*West Potomac is pretty inconsistent, but if they bring their A game then we’ll have a good one.

Yorktown @ Hayfield (-14.0)
*Could be closer, I just love the Hawks squad.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SCHS Defender ()
Date: October 09, 2014 09:22AM

In defense of SC "running up the score," it is difficult, when you are a running team, to fall on the ball in the fourth quarter after your large and talented offensive line has worn down an opponents defense. Should they fall on the ball??? Take a knee on consecutive downs??? Ask their subs to not score??? Also, a "running up the score" indicates that your opponent didn't, or couldn't, score. That said, SC's large scoring differential in the fourth quarter this year can be attributed to the unfortunate separation of "good" and "bad" teams in the Northern Region in 2014. As a SC resident, I worry about the day when, as it will eventually, the talent shifts to another school. Until then, Go Stallions.....

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:23AM

No need to defend the Stallions, nothing wrong with running up the score in varsity football. I am just merely pointing out the Stallions do keep their starters in considerably longer than other schools with a big lead and that's why their margins are so big. The starters are usually in well into the 4th even up 4 TDs.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SCHS Defender ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:52AM

I apologize. I didn't mean to be critical. Just an observation. I do agree with you regarding late game substitutions, and wish that "back-ups" got more experience in the 4th quarter so that they could seamlessly fill-in if needed when a starter needs to be replaced.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: A Coach ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:59AM

usually it's the spread teams that tend to keep their starters in late, up or down on the scoreboard. Their problem is, they see being down 28 as 4 plays away from a tie. That mentality carries over on their defense as well. Just being up 28 is only 4 plays away from being tied.

Anyway, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Wolverine ()
Date: October 09, 2014 12:29PM

"What do you want me to do, tell my JV's to not play hard?"

- Former West Po coach in the early 90's

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: October 09, 2014 02:02PM

Is fri evening wet weather factored into the spreads?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Kelso Surgeon ()
Date: October 09, 2014 04:57PM

steve k2* Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Well 13-2 on outright picks this week, that is
> more like it. Point spreads were also pretty spot
> on. 2 more games correct than VA Preps "the
> experts" too. So please keep that shit off the
> board, I would hate to have double the "illegal"
> activity.


God damn you are better than Steve Stevens on CNBC. Absolute blowout winners!!
>
> Centreville (-28.0) @ West Springfield
> *Centreville won 31-0. Close prediction. What's
> crazy is how many people are saying West
> Springfield played great and still lost 31-0 and
> from what I've heard they did play well. Kind of
> crazy how good Centreville is and they are missing
> 2 of their biggest weapons still.
>
> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Washington-Lee
> *Hayfield won 49-20. Been saying it all along,
> that early season schedule will pay huge benefits
> for Hayfield the duration of the regular season.
>
>
> Herndon @ Robinson (-17.0)
> *Robinson won 56-21. Herndon is a lot better, but
> a lot better may not be Concorde quality.
>
> Lake Braddock (-17.0) @ Annandale
> *Lake Braddock won 28-17. Annandale got a couple
> of TDs at the end once Braddock jumped out to a
> commanding lead. Still though, Annandale is a
> good middle of the pack team.
>
> Langley @ Chantilly (-7.0)
> *Chantilly won 20-7. Great 2nd half for the
> Chargers. Centreville is next...
>
> Marshall @ Jefferson (-9.0)
> *Marshall wins 28-14. Good for the Statesmen!
>
>
> Mount Vernon @ Stuart (-7.0)
> *Stuart won 21-10. Good spread.
>
> Oakton (-15.0) @ West Potomac
> *West Potomac won 27-20, good win for the
> Wolverines. Oakton, Centreville beat this team by
> 51 points, better get your act together.
>
> South County (-35.0) @ Lee
> *South County beat Lee 56-6. Big spreads for the
> Stallions, they like to run it up in the 4th.
>
> South Lakes @ McLean (-10.0)
> *McLean won 36-31. Seahawks still winless. With
> TJ and Marshall on their schedule do they even get
> to 2 wins?
>
> Stone Bridge (-14.0) @ Madison
> *Stone Bridge won 28-17. The takeaway though,
> Madison is this year's most improved team.
>
> TC Williams @ WT Woodson (-6.0)
> *WT Woodson won 56-21. Dang, TC Williams has
> taken a nose dive.
>
> Wakefield (-10.0) @ Edison
> *Wakefield won 21-6.
>
> Westfield (-31.0) @ Fairfax
> *Westfield won 36-0.
>
> Yorktown @ Falls Church (-3.0)
> *Falls Church won 28-14.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 09, 2014 08:39PM

Good point, weather was not factored in, hearing varying reports the amount of rain we will get/be getting at game time. If it's real bad most games not on turf will be postponed, but I think the weather will be okay and I'll stick with the spreads I have.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: cville/wfield ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:06PM

Tied at 35 in 2OT.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Negative ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:07PM

Stone Bridge minus Wrote:
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> Not trying to make any excuses, as I am not a big
> Stone Bridge fan, but their running back/LB, and
> best player on the field on both sides, # 5 Colin
> Buckley, missed entire game due to a concussion.
>
> He plays, they beat Westfield.
>
> Centreville by 28 or more next week, boys. Count
> on it.


Wrong!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Negative 2 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:08PM

Westfield minus Wrote:
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> Not trying to make excuses, but Westfield's
> dynamic speedster and return man #22 Dominique
> Pearson did not suit up for the game. But yeah,
> Centreville will by at least 28 probably 35.

Wrong!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Westfield Wins! ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:10PM

WESTFIELD WINS 42-41!!!!!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 10, 2014 10:54PM

Fairfax 35, Langley 28. Fairfax was down 21-7 at the half, and came back. Fairfax scored the go ahead points with about 90 second left, and that was the first lead they had in the game. It came down to the last seconds, and Fairfax stopped Langley on the 4 yard line to seal the win.

This was one the best HS football games I've seen (though I'm sure Centreville Westfield was equally exciting.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: just wondering ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:18PM

Who would yall put as the no. 1 in 6A right now?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: AJ Turner ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:20PM

I guess Soco is it

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: 757 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:27PM

centreville has been exposed...

the #1 6A squad would probably have to be a nigger team from the beach. (oscar smith)

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NewsPebbles ()
Date: October 10, 2014 11:31PM

Rebelman, I entered your game description into NewsPebbles here: http://www.newspebbles.com/pebble/fairfax-comes-back-to-defeat-langley/

That could have generated a $2 donation to your charity.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: F LB ()
Date: October 11, 2014 12:11AM

Your LB-Woodson was a big fail, and Woodson should have won if it weren't for timely help for LB from the zebras. LB coach needs to teach his players how to fucking put their helmets on. That sand bigger Ibriham lost his on almost ever play and was buying facemask calls. And tell their marching band to shut the fuck up during plays. I'm pretty sure they eventually got a penalty so hopefully they will put the dumbfuck director in his place.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 11, 2014 12:15AM

Crazy night of football, kind of like last weekend’s college games. Chances are if you braved the weather, you went to a great game tonight. Looks like the most entertaining Friday to date.

Centreville 41 @ Westfield 42 2OT
*Wowza, what a game. Mad at myself for giving such a big spread to Centreville when going back in the archives I did say Westfield could compete with them. I am a Westfield believer now, the way both the D-Line and O-Line played, matches up very evenly with Centreville. Centreville and Westfield are by far the best two sets of lines in the region. So in a rematch it will likely come down to the playmakers. With Turner eventually coming back, the combination of him and Boose should keep Centreville pretty far ahead of the field. Still come playoff time, a couple turnovers, or more big plays like Westfield had tonight and they are touchable. Even bigger, is now if South County beats Braddock, I believe they get the 1 seed and Westfield and Centreville likely finish at 2 and 3 and would meet in semis. The real winner tonight might very well be South County.

Chantilly 30 @ Oakton 10
*Also can’t believe I picked Oakton as I am such a sucker for Chantilly. I just wasn’t sure how they’d respond to that drubbing Centreville game them last week. Good win for the Chargers, up next for Oakton is an angry Centreville team at Centreville’s homecoming, I have a feeling the spread will be pretty big.

Falls Church 25 @ Wakefield 26
*Dang am I going to get any pick correct tonight? In my defense I didn’t realize Falls Church starting QB was suspended. Wakefield scored the last 16 points of the game to eek out a win I believe.

TJ 6 @ South Lakes 49
*What happened to TJ? I know they’re not supposed to be good at a sport like football, but they’ve historically been pretty competitive. South Lakes gets first win of the year.

Lake Braddock 34 @ WT Woodson 28
*Good performance by Woodson. Lake Braddock is very up and down this year.

Langley 28 @ Fairfax 35
*You know it’s a tough week when I get my first Fairfax HS game wrong. Solid win for the Rebels and reading accounts from other users, sounds like with most of the games it was quite an exciting one.

Lee 6 @ Annandale 41

Madison 21 @ Robinson 40
*This was a very interesting game, Madison led 21-20 in the 3rd and then Robinson quickly pulled away. Good performance by the Warhawks though and finally a close spread.

McLean 19 @ Stone Bridge 42
*Going to Ashburn is tough, Stone Bridge trailing 7-0 scored 42 unanswered before McLean got some back at the end.

Mount Vernon 21 @ Washington-Lee 38

Stuart 21 @ Marshall 31
*Damn, great win for Marshall tonight. After 3 years of losing the Statesmen have won 2 of 3. A tremendous step in the right direction for this program and most of their key players will be back next year to continue building on this success.

TC Williams 12 @ South County 64
*I can always count on the Stallions to cover a big spread. Sometime I think they take my spreads as a challenge!

West Potomac 13 @ West Springfield 35

Yorktown 21 @ Hayfield 34

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: conf 5 observer ()
Date: October 11, 2014 12:29AM

oakton......c'mon man.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: woww ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:12PM

wow mount vernon has lowkey lost 12 straight games.... what is going on over there? anybody have any information?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:16PM

Mount Vernon has been going down hill. From what I hear, Coach Wells has ran off so many kids that it's not even funny. With the amount of atheltes that walk through that building, it's a shame that there not more competitive.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:25PM

This means next weeks Robinson (6-0, 1-0) @ Westfield (5-1, 1-0) could be for the Concorde District (Conference 5) title.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: woww ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:47PM

nova coach,

care to elaborate a little more? i play at hayfield and I agree they have always had tremendous athletes. don't understand how they lost to herndon, edison, etc.

we haven't watched any film on them yet so I am ignorant as to why they are so bad. it looks like they are the new wakefield in the national district.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Questioning ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:55PM

newgatedenizen Wrote:
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> This means next weeks Robinson (6-0, 1-0) @
> Westfield (5-1, 1-0) could be for the Concorde
> District (Conference 5) title.

would it be a split if robinson wins this game, then cville beats them?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: just a thought ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:55PM

who do you guys think has a better chance of running the table SoCo or RoBo?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SL Parent ()
Date: October 11, 2014 01:59PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> TJ 6 @ South Lakes 49
> *What happened to TJ? I know they’re not
> supposed to be good at a sport like football, but
> they’ve historically been pretty competitive.
> South Lakes gets first win of the year.
>

TJ looks physically like a JV team with a lot of freshmen call-ups. They have a good QB but not enough around him to beat anyone and only about 10 players on the sidelines watching. SL will beat Marshall and hopefully give Langley and Fairfax a game but are realistically looking at a 2-8 year.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SC ()
Date: October 11, 2014 03:11PM

SC will dominate all the way to State

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Lb? ()
Date: October 11, 2014 03:45PM

When will aj Alexander be back for lake Braddock. Or will he even be back this season?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: bdhee ()
Date: October 11, 2014 04:36PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Mount Vernon has been going down hill. From what I
> hear, Coach Wells has ran off so many kids that
> it's not even funny. With the amount of atheltes
> that walk through that building, it's a shame that
> there not more competitive.


And they're being realigned from 5A into 6A Patriot Conference for 15-16 and 16-17.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Oh Boy ()
Date: October 11, 2014 05:29PM

This is going to get good....
6A Northern Region

Lake Braddock - 30.50
South County - 30.17
Robinson - 30.00
Battlefield - 29.86
Centreville - 29.80
Westfield - 29.67
Patriot - 28.71
Hayfield - 26.50
Chantilly - 26.17
West Springfield - 26.17
Stonewall Jackson - 25.71
Annandale - 25.50
Washington-Lee - 25.33
McLean - 24.00
Yorktown - 23.50
Oakton - 23.33
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Herndon - 23.00
Fairfax - 22.83
West Potomac - 22.50
Madison - 22.17
W.T. Woodson - 21.83
Langley - 21.33
Osbourn - 19.17
T.C. Williams - 19.17
South Lakes - 18.83
Osbourn Park - 17.43

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 11, 2014 06:51PM

Not one holding call on the line last night...
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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: nr fanatic ()
Date: October 11, 2014 09:36PM

just a thought Wrote:
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> who do you guys think has a better chance of
> running the table SoCo or RoBo?


South county for sure. Robinson has both Westfield and Centerville remaining and I don't see them beating either.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: CVille guy ()
Date: October 12, 2014 07:59AM

Westfield had sticky jerseys

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hey bdhee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ()
Date: October 12, 2014 10:16AM

Nice fun fact on Mt Vernon moving to 6A. Can you tell me where to find that info? I am also especially interested in finding out about all of the local NOVA schools, including Loudoun - to see who will be moving up and who will be moving down.

Thanks!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 12, 2014 10:59AM

just a thought Wrote:
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> who do you guys think has a better chance of
> running the table SoCo or RoBo?


No question SoCo.

Robinson has:
Westfield (5-1): tough game - tossup
Oakton (3-3): should win
Chantilly (4-2): should win
Centreville (4-2): tough game - probable loss

SoCo has:
West Potomac (2-4): blowout win
W.T. Woodson (2-4): blowout win
Lake Braddock (5-1): tough game - tossup
Annandale (4-2): should win

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Mr. Jeff Kropf ()
Date: October 12, 2014 11:01AM

The conference realignment for the next two years is on the VHSL website. Mt. Vernon will have 2,000 students, which is too big for 5A, so it moves up. Also, next year the old districts will cease to exist so there will only be conference champions, and schools will no longer play old district rivals, i.e. regarding the old national and liberty districts.

Hey bdhee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wrote:
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> Nice fun fact on Mt Vernon moving to 6A. Can you
> tell me where to find that info? I am also
> especially interested in finding out about all of
> the local NOVA schools, including Loudoun - to see
> who will be moving up and who will be moving
> down.
>
> Thanks!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: vhsl ()
Date: October 12, 2014 07:42PM

It looks like for 6A North conferences will be identical to districts with two exceptions...Lee staying as the only 5A school in Patriot while Mt Vernon will be the only 6A school with the rest of 5A in one district, though those two schools are switched for "conference". Not sure what the rationale there is, seems dumb. Mount Vernon appealed their move to 6A saying that there attendance moves drastically with all the military brats coming and going but I guess they lost.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: silicon bellow ()
Date: October 13, 2014 12:30AM

The old National and Liberty districts show little resemblance to the current or new conference alignments, and the schools in those old districts still play regular season district (not conference) schedules. This is why schools in some conferences still recognize "district champions" for sports like football. This will all change next year when all schools will play conference schedules in the regular season and the old districts will be abandoned.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 13, 2014 05:45PM

Annandale @ Woodson (-7.0)
*This should be a great, evenly matched game for stakeholders of these two schools.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ McLean
*Great win for the Rebels over Langley, one thing about the Rebels though is after a big win usually comes a disappointing performance. McLean can definitely win this one too, so I would encourage these school stakeholders to make it out for what could be a good game too.

Falls Church (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon

Hayfield (-24.0) @ Stuart
*Hawks will continue their streak, while the Raiders are in free fall. Remember when Stuart fans came on here saying I wasn’t respecting the Raiders enough? After another loss, to this time Marshall, they are quickly falling out of postseason contention.

Herndon @ Chantilly (-14.0)
*Homecoming for the Chargers. Look for another strong performance after drubbing Oakton. With the win the Chargers can guarantee a 4th place finish in the district, after a lot of people said Oakton and Herndon could both beat them. At the same time though, it goes to show how high Centreville and Westfield are apart from the rest, Robinson I think is on this similar high level, but they will have to prove themselves against Centerville and Westfield first.

Jefferson @ Madison (-28.0)

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ West Springfield
*Lake Braddock is on upset alert. I see the Bruins winning, but the Spartans have the horses to give them a good fight and if Lake Braddock comes out flat, they could be in trouble against West Springfield’s running attack.

Oakton @ Centreville (-45.0)
*The Wildcats are pissed. Enough said.

Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)
*Game of the Week. Westfield’s homecoming. How will they come off their biggest win in a number of years? How will Robinson seize the opportunity to be considered among the region’s elite? Westfield essentially wins the Concorde with a win, and Robinson winning probably ensures a 3 way district title in a 6 team district.

South County (-35.0) @ West Potomac

South Lakes @ Langley (-20.0)

Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ Marshall

Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Edison

Yorktown (-6.0) @ Wakefield
*Great game for those in Arlington. Yorktown QB transfer leads the Warriors against his former team. At the time of the transfer, Yorktown had a 10-0 season and Wakefield a 0-10 season, now both are fairly equal. This game could go either way.

Lee @ TC Williams (-6.0)

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NovaCoach ()
Date: October 13, 2014 06:21PM

Annandale @ Woodson (-7.0)
Annandale has better athletes, Woodson has better coaching. I'm leaning with coaching in this one. Woodson by 3.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ McLean
McLean has a very good Receiving core and that could cause a lot of problems for Fairfax's Secondary. Mclean's homecoming so they'll have extra motivation... Mclean 42-35 in overtime.

Falls Church (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
Falls Church will handle Mount Vernon... FC by 3 touchdowns.

Hayfield (-24.0) @ Stuart
Hayfield is legit! Stuart is bad. Hayfield 49 Stuart 13

Herndon @ Chantilly (-14.0)
What the hell happen to Herndon this week? 17-0 loss to Edison? Before that game, I'd give Herndon a really good shot at beating Chantilly... Chantilly wins 35-21

Jefferson @ Madison (-28.0)

I think Madison wins out the rest of their schedule. They'll beat Jefferson by 40.

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ West Springfield
Upset alert is correct! West Springfield is good. I'll take the Spartans 28-27.

Oakton @ Centreville (-45.0)
Oakton's ship has sailed and they're no longer serious contenders in the Former Concord District. They won't win another game this year. Centreville wins 49-7.

Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)
*Game of the Week. Robinson was seriously slept on going into the season. Coach Vossler is a hell of a coach. He's been preparing these boys for this game since he was named Head Coach. Ill take Robinson 21-17.

South County (-35.0) @ West Potomac
Look for Pannoni to run up the score... 56-20.

South Lakes @ Langley (-20.0)

This game is tricky... Langley has struggled severely against "athletic" teams. SL has the talent to keep this one close. I'll take Langley 38-28.

Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ Marshall
Hey look at the bright side... Marshall did manage to pull of 2 wins this year. SB by 40

Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Edison
Don't know where Edison got there mojo from last week but I'll play it safe and sagree with the spread. WL wins 27-20.

Yorktown (-6.0) @ Wakefield
Wakefield is by far the most improved team this year. I think they'll be competitive but there still a year away. Give me Yorktown by 10.

Lee @ TC Williams (-6.0

Lee pulls off the minor upset. 42-40... Randolph is on really thin ice.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Nova fan ()
Date: October 13, 2014 07:14PM

NovaCoach Wrote:
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> Annandale @ Woodson (-7.0)
> Annandale has better athletes, Woodson has better
> coaching. I'm leaning with coaching in this one.
> Woodson by 3.
>
> Fairfax (-10.0) @ McLean
> McLean has a very good Receiving core and that
> could cause a lot of problems for Fairfax's
> Secondary. Mclean's homecoming so they'll have
> extra motivation... Mclean 42-35 in overtime.
>
> Falls Church (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
> Falls Church will handle Mount Vernon... FC by 3
> touchdowns.
>
> Hayfield (-24.0) @ Stuart
> Hayfield is legit! Stuart is bad. Hayfield 49
> Stuart 13
>
> Herndon @ Chantilly (-14.0)
> What the hell happen to Herndon this week? 17-0
> loss to Edison? Before that game, I'd give Herndon
> a really good shot at beating Chantilly...
> Chantilly wins 35-21
>
> Jefferson @ Madison (-28.0)
>
> I think Madison wins out the rest of their
> schedule. They'll beat Jefferson by 40.
>
> Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ West Springfield
> Upset alert is correct! West Springfield is good.
> I'll take the Spartans 28-27.
>
> Oakton @ Centreville (-45.0)
> Oakton's ship has sailed and they're no longer
> serious contenders in the Former Concord District.
> They won't win another game this year. Centreville
> wins 49-7.
>
> Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)
> *Game of the Week. Robinson was seriously slept on
> going into the season. Coach Vossler is a hell of
> a coach. He's been preparing these boys for this
> game since he was named Head Coach. Ill take
> Robinson 21-17.
>
> South County (-35.0) @ West Potomac
> Look for Pannoni to run up the score... 56-20.
>
> South Lakes @ Langley (-20.0)
>
> This game is tricky... Langley has struggled
> severely against "athletic" teams. SL has the
> talent to keep this one close. I'll take Langley
> 38-28.
>
> Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ Marshall
> Hey look at the bright side... Marshall did manage
> to pull of 2 wins this year. SB by 40
>
> Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Edison
> Don't know where Edison got there mojo from last
> week but I'll play it safe and sagree with the
> spread. WL wins 27-20.
>
> Yorktown (-6.0) @ Wakefield
> Wakefield is by far the most improved team this
> year. I think they'll be competitive but there
> still a year away. Give me Yorktown by 10.
>
> Lee @ TC Williams (-6.0
>
> Lee pulls off the minor upset. 42-40... Randolph
> is on really thin ice.


Lake Braddock @ West Springfield (-3.0)

Oakton @ Centreville (-56.0)

South County (-49.0) @ West Potomac

Lee @ TC Williams (-3.0)

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: GAU ()
Date: October 13, 2014 08:48PM

silicon bellow Wrote:
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> The old National and Liberty districts show little
> resemblance to the current or new conference
> alignments, and the schools in those old districts
> still play regular season district (not
> conference) schedules. This is why schools in some
> conferences still recognize "district champions"
> for sports like football. This will all change
> next year when all schools will play conference
> schedules in the regular season and the old
> districts will be abandoned.


The VHSL has adopted newly aligned "districts" and "conferences" for the next two years, though I am not sure what purpose districts will serve, at least in Northern Virginia, where they are virtually identical to the conferences with a couple exceptions. Despite moving into the 6A Patriot Conference, they will still be in the National District with the other 5A schools, while Lee is in the 5A Capitol Conference, they will be in the Patriot District with all 6A schools. I don't know what the rationale is for this. Mt Vernon appealed their placement in 6A on account of their changing population with Fort Belvoir, but they lost. Maybe it was the committee partially conceding by letting them stay put because Lee was also willing to stay despite being smaller. In practice, I don't know what difference it makes. Looking at the rest of the "districts" in the state, it looks like more diversity of size because they were concerned about geographical proximity - for example, the "River Ridge District" has four 3A schools, two 4A and a 6A. We don't have that problem - the North Region spans 40some miles from Haymarket to Arlington.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: coach dozier ()
Date: October 13, 2014 10:44PM

I understood that the old districts like the National District will no longer exist, because next year all the conferences will have regular season conference schedules. In fact, McLean already replaced the old Liberty District school banners in the gym with the new Liberty Conference 6 schools (Yorkktown, W-L, etc.).

I saw no mention of districts in the VHSL 2015-17 realignment notes. The main complaint last year was that most of the teams in conferences like the new "Liberty Conference 6" don't play each other in sports like football. Yet for Cross Country, the teams only play the new conference teams and not the old district schools. The basketball season has been split into separate "district" and "conference" schedules. It's been an unholy mess, and the districts are done. Done forever, because they serve no purpose.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SOCO QUESTION ()
Date: October 14, 2014 08:47AM

Does anyone out there have any information on Robert Avery. The Thunder of the Stallions backfield seems not to have played in the last two games....with a bye in-between. Injured...suspended...transferred?????

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 16, 2014 07:19PM

Random thought but I'd love to see South County vs. Patriot in the playoffs - hope they match up against each other.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Get help ()
Date: October 16, 2014 08:11PM

Fags
You are all fags and should be reported to the police
My god get a life that is not about young men.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: TWu7Y ()
Date: October 16, 2014 08:19PM

I warned them about the illegal activity. I guess just a phone call will not take too much time.

Can not educate these fools, oh well.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Fags ()
Date: October 16, 2014 08:25PM

Get help Wrote:
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> Fags
> You are all fags and should be reported to the
> police
> My god get a life that is not about young men.


What are you going to report to the police?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: DFdXm ()
Date: October 16, 2014 08:29PM

TWu7Y Wrote:
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> I warned them about the illegal activity. I guess
> just a phone call will not take too much time.
>
> Can not educate these fools, oh well.

jealous asshole,

pick up the phone and call it in.
Please educate me on what is illegal about talking about football.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: October 16, 2014 09:04PM

In case you were not aware, high school football is a big industry in every community of the US. And most people have kids - or friends or relatives that have kids - that play or have played high school football. Do you feel the same way about college or professional football? Where do you think those players come from?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Fucken idiot ()
Date: October 16, 2014 10:20PM

Get help Wrote:
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> Fags
> You are all fags and should be reported to the
> police
> My god get a life that is not about young men.


Says the retard who complains about nonsense while using anonymous usernames, sitting in your mom's basement and jerking off to Hannah Montana reruns.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: VA Preps ()
Date: October 17, 2014 06:21AM

My predictions record climbed a bit last week as I correctly hit on 20 of the 27 games played (.740) which upped my season mark to 143-51 (.737). Still a far cry from where I want to be but, all in all, not too shabby.

OSBOURN AT BATTLEFIELD
Battlefield has won the last two meetings 21-0 and 24-6 and things seem to be shaping up right along those lines for this year's contest. The Bobcats once again rank among the best teams in the state with quarterback Matt Gallagher leading a diversified attack that will challenge the Osbourn defense both on the ground and through the air. The Eagles defense has not been up to those types of challenges this season as they've been hit for 34 or more points in four of their six games. The Bobcats should score early and cruise to another win...Battlefield 38, Osbourn 7

STONEWALL JACKSON AT PATRIOT
Stonewall has won a pair of shootout-type games in this series opening with a 28-24 win in 2012 before capturing a 41-35 victory last season. Despite the breakaway talents of tailback Reggie Floyd, the Raiders offense has not reached the same level as in the recent past scoring over 20 points in a game only once this season and they enter this game being shut out by Battlefield last Friday. Patriot, on the other hand, has been spinning numbers on the scoreboard like a cartoon putting up at least 34 points in every game this season behind quarterback Cody Agnew and wide receiver Nick Mathews, who no one has slowed this year. It looks like the right time to pick the Pioneers to get their first win in this series...Patriot 40, Stonewall Jackson 24

OAKTON AT CENTREVILLE
Centreville has won five of the last six meetings and things look bleak for Oakton in this year's contest as the Cougars have dropped three straight coming into this game including a 31-10 loss to Chantilly last week. Somewhat unexpectedly, Centreville enters this game coming off a loss as well falling to Westfield 42-41 in double overtime last week. There has been whispers that South Carolina commit AJ Turner may find his way back onto the field this week though which would be a big boost in the arm for a Wildcats team still capable of running the table. They'll regain some momentum here...Centreville 44, Oakton 14

HERNDON AT CHANTILLY
Chantilly has won nine straight games between the two schools including a 56-40 shootout win last season. Herndon had been an offensive juggernaut through their first five games scoring 21 or more in each but they were shut out last week by Edison which gives reason for pause. Still, quarterback Ryan McLaughlin heads up a potent attack capable of big things. Though the Chargers put up 38 points on Lee in their opener and 31 against Oakton last week, the offense has not been very explosive this season scoring 41 points in their other three contests. They'll have to rely on their defense to make plays which should make for an interesting battle. If the Hornets offense is back in form, this will be a four quarter thriller...Chantilly 30, Herndon 28

ROBINSON AT WESTFIELD
As hard as this is to believe, Westfield has dominated this series between two NoVa power programs as the Bulldogs have won ten of the last eleven meetings. The last three have been decided by a total of eleven points, so the games are tight even if the series has not been. The Rams come in playing perhaps their best football in years, however, as they enter 6-0 riding a running game that has seen three backs -- Marcus Denham, Roman Lowery and Sean Foncha -- all total nearly 600 yards to date. They'll square off with a Westfield squad that has only dropped one of their six games this season and are just a week off topping Centreville in double overtime, a confidence-building win if there ever was one. The offense has found a nice balance between handing the ball to Evan Gray and throwing it to Tyler Scanlon. The power point implications in this game are monstrous as the winner could end up with the top seed overall...Westfield 28, Robinson 26

FAIRFAX AT McLEAN
Fairfax has collected three straight wins in the series topping McLean 45-20 last season. The Rebels evened their record at 3-3 last week when they topped Langley in a one-touchdown contest. They've been on a roller coaster ride this season scoring 35 or more in three games but totaling only 21 points in their other three games. McLean also comes in at 3-3 but almost all of their games look the same on paper as they are playing high-scoring shootouts almost every week. Quarterback Brian Maffei has been magnificent throwing for over 1,000 yards and 12 touchdowns in three games. This one is sizing up as another high-scoring affair and the Highlanders seem to be a bit more at home in those type games right now...McLean 39, Fairfax 33

SOUTH LAKES AT LANGLEY
Langley has won all but one game in this series since 2004 and they cruised to a 56-33 win last season. South Lakes enters this game fresh off their first win of the season as they topped Jefferson 49-6 last week as they've struggled to slow opposing offenses this season allowing 33 or more in their first five games. They'll have to buck up this week facing Saxons running back Tyler West who has totaled over 1,000 yards and 14 touchdowns already this season. Winners of their last two games, the Saxons can start making a run at a postseason berth with another win here...Langley 36, South Lakes 20

JEFFERSON AT MADISON
Jefferson snapped an eight-year Madison winning streak last season with a 24-21 victory, but the Colonials aren't playing at the same level this season as they did last losing their first six games this season. The offense has only scored more than 14 points in one contest this season while the defense has been stung for 28 or more each week. Madison has collected only two wins this season but quarterback Jason Gastrock has been on fire throwing for more than 200 yards in four of their six games totaling nearly 1,300 yards to date. The Warhawks have played a tough schedule to date, so they should be prepped for this contest...Madison 37, Jefferson 14

HAYFIELD AT STUART
Hayfield has won four of the five meetings between the two schools scoring back-to-back shutouts in the last two games. The Hawks have won three straight to even their record after six games with the offense putting up 34 or more points in each win. Quarterback Sheldon Isaac has been on fire throwing for nearly 1,800 yards and 14 touchdowns on the year with wideouts Tyler Hodge and Frank Pannell sharing playmaking duties out wide. The Raiders fell to 2-4 last week in losing to Marshall and the defense has been hit for 28 or more in four of their six games, so they may struggle slowing down the Hawks...Hayfield 40, Stuart 13

WASHINGTON-LEE AT EDISON
A Washington-Lee 29-14 victory snapped a two-year Edison winning streak in this series and the teams have split their last four meetings. At 4-2, the Generals are making a run at the postseason and a win here will be critical to their success with Centreville, Hayfield and Yorktown remaining on the schedule. The offense has been spectacular averaging 32.5 points per game behind quarterback Ronnie Fesco (1,186 yards and 12 touchdowns) and running back Daquay Harris (693 yards and 9 scores). Edison blanked Herndon last week, a great sign heading into this game, but in the four games prior, they were hit for 20 or more points. The Generals should be able to outscore the Eagles here...Washington-Lee 29, Edison 20

YORKTOWN AT WAKEFIELD
Yorktown has won every single meeting between the two programs since the turn of the century with none of the last five decided by fewer than 31 points. At 3-3, the Patriots have alternated winning and losing each week through the first six games. They've been pretty solid on offense scoring 21 or more in all but one game this season while the defense has held opponents to 27 points in their three wins, but surrendered 96 in their three losses. They'll be squaring off with an entirely different Wakefield squad than in previous seasons as their five wins represents more wins than any other year this century. Running back Leon Young has rushed for over 800 yards this season and he's totaled more than 160 in each of the last three games. The defense has been sound as well holding four of their six opponents to 14 or fewer points. Yorktown is fighting for their postseason lives so they'll be highly motivated and they'll need to play well to win this coin toss game...Yorktown 26, Wakefield 21

ANNANDALE AT WOODSON
Woodson has won four of the five meetings between the two schools, but that includes two 14-7 wins, so the two programs have been comparable of late. The Atoms have been playing well this season winning four of their six games only 15 points from being undefeated. They've won both low- and high-scoring battles topping Oakton 14-10 and T.C. Williams 61-40. Running back Devin Hamlett has been outstanding as the focal point of the offense. The Cavaliers, on the other hand, are playing up-and-down affairs as there's been at least 47 points scored in every game that they've played. The offense has scored 28 or more in their last four games but the defense has allowed 20 or more in each contest. The Atoms are in the postseason hunt and have to win games like this to stay there...Annandale 30, Woodson 20

LAKE BRADDOCK AT WEST SPRINGFIELD
Lake Braddock enters this match up riding a five-year winning streak in the series including a 51-0 victory last season. The Bruins come in as the top team in the VHSL power point rankings in 6A North as they've won five of their six games as their 19-17 loss to Robinson stands as the only thing that mars their record. The offense, behind quarterback Kyle Edwards, has totaled 28 or more in three straight after being held to 13 by Stone Bridge and 17 by Robinson. They'll be meeting a Spartans squad better than most that they've seen in the recent past as West Springfield is 4-2 and pushing for a home playoff seed. They've scored as consistently as Lake Braddock putting up 34 or more in four of their six games though premier powers South County and Centreville held them to a combined 13 points. The Spartans and running back Adis Ojeda will test the Bruins but they're facing an uphill battle...Lake Braddock 31, West Springfield 14

SOUTH COUNTY AT WEST POTOMAC
South County snapped a three-year West Potomac winning streak in this series last season with a 49-22 victory over the Wolverines. The Stallions are serious state championship contenders this season having raced out to a 6-0 mark on the season with only one team (Hayfield) playing to within 20 points of them. The offense, driven by running backs Gerald Hulett and Robert Avery, has scored 34 or more in every game this season proving to be nearly unstoppable at this point. West Potomac will have a hard time matching score-for-score with the Stallions as they've scored more than 20 points in a game only once this season. Defensively, the Wolverines will have to play their best game of the season as they've been hit for 30 by Lake Braddock, 54 by Centreville and 35 by West Springfield. It's not a great match up on paper for the Wolverines...South County 46, West Potomac 13

LEE AT T.C. WILLIAMS
T.C. Williams has won the last two games in this series notching back-to-back shutouts by topping Lee 47-0 in 2012 and 32-0 last year. The Lancers have struggled this season winning only one game (20-17 over Edison) and they've been outscored 107-12 in the last two weeks by South County and Annandale. T.C. Williams has been on the same path, as well, scoring an opening week victory over Dunbar (D.C.) before dropping five straight. They've also squared off with Annandale and South County over the past two weeks being outscored 135-52 by the duo. Both teams should enter this game feeling great about their chances to notch a win but the Titans have played similar opponents a bit more competitively than the Lancers which gives them the edge...T.C. Williams 36, Lee 21

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Posted by: Updated HS Lines ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:29AM

Annandale @ Woodson (-1)

Fairfax @ McLean (-5)

Herndon (-7) @ Chantilly

Lake Braddock (-2) @ West Springfield

Oakton @ Centreville (-49.0)

Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)

South County (-42.0) @ West Potomac

Lee @ TC Williams (-6.0)

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Posted by: Bars ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:51AM

Annandale @ Woodson----- Annandale 30 Woodson 24

Fairfax @ McLean----- Fairfax 28 McLean 17

Falls Church @ Mount Vernon----- Church 35 MV 14

Hayfield @ Stuart---------- Hayfield 40 Stuart 17

Herndon @ Chantilly-----------Chantilly 30 Herndon 20

Jefferson @ Madison----------- Madison 35 Jefferson 7

Lake Braddock @ West Springfield----- WS 28 LB 24


Oakton @ Centreville------ Cville 45 Oakton 0

Robinson @ Westfield------- westfield 24 Rob 17

South County @ West Potomac----------- Soco 49 West po 14

South Lakes @ Langley----------------- Langley 35 SL 14

Stone Bridge @ Marshall-------------- SB 40 Marsh 7

Washington-Lee @ Edison-------------- Edison 21 WL 14

Yorktown @ Wakefield----------------- York 30 Wake 22

Lee @ TC Williams-------------------- Lee 34 TC 32

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ???? ()
Date: October 17, 2014 12:16PM

Is Aj Alexander playing tonight

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ACL ()
Date: October 17, 2014 01:35PM

He's out for the season
LB is favored by 2 TDs

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ohno robo ()
Date: October 17, 2014 08:40PM

robo's starting quarterback, Rowlett isnt playing tonight. the backup Q is just AWfUL.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ????????????? ()
Date: October 17, 2014 10:12PM

annnd lake braddock loses to west springfield

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Spartan Fan ()
Date: October 17, 2014 10:18PM

Nice call for the upset Steve K2!
Way to go Spartans!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: results ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:10PM

any results from tonights games?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: sure ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:43PM

results Wrote:
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> any results from tonights games?


Annandale 73 Woodson 56

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Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 17, 2014 11:51PM

Annandale @ Woodson (-7.0)
*Annandale won 73-56. What a shootout. Looked like Annandale jumped out to an early lead and then the two teams just exchanged TDs from there. Highest scoring game I can remember ever. Wonder if it broke a record? Annandale is now 5-2Annandale should be heading back to the playoffs. Won’t be a big threat but still, great season for the Atoms. Their matchup with West Springfield next week should give us a good indication where they are at. Look for them to finish 6-4.

Fairfax (-10.0) @ McLean
*McLean won 24-21. As I said, after a big win Fairfax usually comes out and disappoints. Horrible loss for the Rebels, and a great homecoming win for a not very good McLean squad. 1 more win and McLean finishes with a .500 year.

Falls Church (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
*Have not seen a score for this game

Hayfield (-24.0) @ Stuart
*Hayfield won 56-23.

Herndon @ Chantilly (-14.0)
*Herndon won 22-20 with the winning score in the final seconds. First off great win for the Hornets, but bigger story is what a terrible loss for the Chargers. Chantilly blew a 20-2 lead at their homecoming to lose their first game to Herndon in 10 years. Probably their first homecoming loss in 9-10 years too. With the heartbreaking loss look for Chantilly to finish with their first losing season since 2005. I don’t see them beating Yorktown, Robinson, or Westfield; but their best remaining shot is Yorktown at home next week.

Jefferson @ Madison (-28.0)
*Madison was up 33-0 at half, haven’t seen a score since then.

Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ West Springfield
*West Springfield won 16-14. I did put Braddock on upset alert, but still picked the game wrong. I didn’t realize AJ Alexander was out for the year. Huge blow for Braddock. Without him they do not beat South County in a couple weeks.

Oakton @ Centreville (-45.0)
*Centreville won 21-0. I got to say this was one of the more surprising scores of the night at Centreville’s homecoming. I know Centreville had some injuries, but I am curious what Oakton did to limit the big plays and get Centreville off the field. Is there a blue print to the Wildcats? Cause I must say Westfield is really starting to click on all cylinders. I still expect Centreville to get it together though.

Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)
*Westfield won 31-14. Westfield was definitely the better team. I do obviously like Robinson’s rushing game, but when you go against elite defenses like Westfield and Centreville and they know you are going to run, that formula won’t work for Robinson. Robinson had a great first drive, 7 rushes for 80 yards, but Westfield started to figure out the attack and read the lanes better and really contained Robinson from that point forward. I love Robinson’s O and D lines as I saw in the Lake Braddock game, but it won’t be enough to make them a legitimate threat this year. Meanwhile, with Westfield’s QB now incorporating the run into his game, Westfield has an extremely dynamic offense with a great combination of rushing and passing. It is going to take a lot of things going in their favor to beat Centreville again, but if there is one team that is capable, it is the Bulldogs.

South County (-35.0) @ West Potomac
*South County won 63-27, nailed a spread. With no AJ Alexander for Braddock, if that is true, I have no doubt South County is going to finish 10-0 which I assume would give them the 1 seed for the region. The problem is though, watching these games against the region’s best, your Concorde games, Braddock facing Concorde teams and Stone Bridge, and good football out in Prince William County, and then looking at the teams South County is playing, the Stallions are not getting tested and likely won’t. Not getting reps against quality competition is going to do them in. When they line up against Centreville or Westfield in the postseason, they will have played no one near that caliber. By not playing good teams you can fall into bad habits or get shell shocked early on before adjusting. I think the South County has such a talented team, but I can’t say it enough, their schedule will do them in, no way you can play no one and then expect to win the region playing your 2-3 toughest opponents on the schedule consecutively.

South Lakes @ Langley (-20.0)
*Langley won 42-21. There we go with the spreads.

Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ Marshall
*Stone Bridge won 54-7.

Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Edison
*Yes, another spread, heating up. WL wins 21-14.

Yorktown (-6.0) @ Wakefield
*Yorktown wins 44-23.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 18, 2014 12:01AM

Side notes to above.

Robinson was without their starting QB and fans are saying that made a big difference, but honestly when you come in throwing the ball 3.5 times a game, how big a loss is he?

South County's weak schedule and the fact that they are playing some D5 teams could and should keep the Stallions from finishing in first even if they run the table.

If Centreville and Westfield both run the table, Centreville will likely finish higher as their first loss didn't count and Westfield lost points for playing a smaller conference school in Stone Bridge. That is BS, as Stone Bridge is better than 80% of the D6 schools and that was a great win for Westfield, but that's the way the system works.

Then can anyone confirm AJ Alexander's status?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Confirm ()
Date: October 18, 2014 12:16AM

heresay is AJ is out for football and basketball season with ACL injury.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Jk ()
Date: October 18, 2014 12:51AM

Falls Church at Mount Vernon, Saturday 1pm

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 18, 2014 12:55AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Annandale @ Woodson (-7.0)
> *Annandale won 73-56. What a shootout. Looked
> like Annandale jumped out to an early lead and
> then the two teams just exchanged TDs from there.
> Highest scoring game I can remember ever. Wonder
> if it broke a record? Annandale is now
> 5-2Annandale should be heading back to the
> playoffs. Won’t be a big threat but still,
> great season for the Atoms. Their matchup with
> West Springfield next week should give us a good
> indication where they are at. Look for them to
> finish 6-4.
>
> Fairfax (-10.0) @ McLean
> *McLean won 24-21. As I said, after a big win
> Fairfax usually comes out and disappoints.
> Horrible loss for the Rebels, and a great
> homecoming win for a not very good McLean squad.
> 1 more win and McLean finishes with a .500 year.
>
> Falls Church (-17.5) @ Mount Vernon
> *Have not seen a score for this game
>
> Hayfield (-24.0) @ Stuart
> *Hayfield won 56-23.
>
> Herndon @ Chantilly (-14.0)
> *Herndon won 22-20 with the winning score in the
> final seconds. First off great win for the
> Hornets, but bigger story is what a terrible loss
> for the Chargers. Chantilly blew a 20-2 lead at
> their homecoming to lose their first game to
> Herndon in 10 years. Probably their first
> homecoming loss in 9-10 years too. With the
> heartbreaking loss look for Chantilly to finish
> with their first losing season since 2005. I
> don’t see them beating Yorktown, Robinson, or
> Westfield; but their best remaining shot is
> Yorktown at home next week.
>
> Jefferson @ Madison (-28.0)
> *Madison was up 33-0 at half, haven’t seen a
> score since then.
>
> Lake Braddock (-7.0) @ West Springfield
> *West Springfield won 16-14. I did put Braddock
> on upset alert, but still picked the game wrong.
> I didn’t realize AJ Alexander was out for the
> year. Huge blow for Braddock. Without him they
> do not beat South County in a couple weeks.
>
> Oakton @ Centreville (-45.0)
> *Centreville won 21-0. I got to say this was one
> of the more surprising scores of the night at
> Centreville’s homecoming. I know Centreville
> had some injuries, but I am curious what Oakton
> did to limit the big plays and get Centreville off
> the field. Is there a blue print to the Wildcats?
> Cause I must say Westfield is really starting to
> click on all cylinders. I still expect
> Centreville to get it together though.
>
> Robinson @ Westfield (-3.0)
> *Westfield won 31-14. Westfield was definitely
> the better team. I do obviously like Robinson’s
> rushing game, but when you go against elite
> defenses like Westfield and Centreville and they
> know you are going to run, that formula won’t
> work for Robinson. Robinson had a great first
> drive, 7 rushes for 80 yards, but Westfield
> started to figure out the attack and read the
> lanes better and really contained Robinson from
> that point forward. I love Robinson’s O and D
> lines as I saw in the Lake Braddock game, but it
> won’t be enough to make them a legitimate threat
> this year. Meanwhile, with Westfield’s QB now
> incorporating the run into his game, Westfield has
> an extremely dynamic offense with a great
> combination of rushing and passing. It is going
> to take a lot of things going in their favor to
> beat Centreville again, but if there is one team
> that is capable, it is the Bulldogs.
>
> South County (-35.0) @ West Potomac
> *South County won 63-27, nailed a spread. With no
> AJ Alexander for Braddock, if that is true, I have
> no doubt South County is going to finish 10-0
> which I assume would give them the 1 seed for the
> region. The problem is though, watching these
> games against the region’s best, your Concorde
> games, Braddock facing Concorde teams and Stone
> Bridge, and good football out in Prince William
> County, and then looking at the teams South County
> is playing, the Stallions are not getting tested
> and likely won’t. Not getting reps against
> quality competition is going to do them in. When
> they line up against Centreville or Westfield in
> the postseason, they will have played no one near
> that caliber. By not playing good teams you can
> fall into bad habits or get shell shocked early on
> before adjusting. I think the South County has
> such a talented team, but I can’t say it enough,
> their schedule will do them in, no way you can
> play no one and then expect to win the region
> playing your 2-3 toughest opponents on the
> schedule consecutively.
>
> South Lakes @ Langley (-20.0)
> *Langley won 42-21. There we go with the
> spreads.
>
> Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ Marshall
> *Stone Bridge won 54-7.
>
> Washington-Lee (-7.0) @ Edison
> *Yes, another spread, heating up. WL wins 21-14.
>
>
> Yorktown (-6.0) @ Wakefield
> *Yorktown wins 44-23.


Correction on the Fairfax Score: Refs 24, Fairfax 21 (OT). This was quite possibly the most horribly officiated game I've seen in a long time. When a pass is thrown to a receiver, in order to be a completed pass if the receiver is going to the ground, the receiver must have possession all the way to the ground. A pass was thrown to a McLean receiver that popped out as he hit the ground and it was somehow ruled a catch. That happened on one of McLean's scoring drives. That isn't all. Fairfax had the second possession in OT. Fairfax had 4th and goal from the one foot line and lined up to go for it. Coach Simonds was in the refs face to get a timeout called, and the ref completely ignored him. Simonds was within 5 yards of the ref and there is NO WAY the ref couldn't have heard him. The play was called and Fairfax was stopped short. I also think Fairfax got a bad spot on the third down play, as the ball looked to be in, but I'm reserving judgment on that until I see the tap.

I'm angry about this game, because of the officiating, but I do want to give props to McLean's receiving corps. The deep passing game was working for them. They are a talented group. Fairfax could have put the game away in the fourth quarter but couldn't keep a drive going. Perhaps Fairfax should have started their JV team against McLean. That was the same JV team that won 62-0 last night.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Boooooo ()
Date: October 18, 2014 01:31AM

Ohhhhhh the refs really screwed you huh

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Gyro ()
Date: October 18, 2014 06:39AM

Concorder Wrote:
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> (Hey Gyro) Woah, Woah, Woah wait a minute
> Spartans???? Which Spartans I don't think LB
> plays Broad Run. If you are talking about West
> Springfield, Hilarious. they are improved, but
> come on man!

Spartans beat braddock!

Hey Condorder,they are not one of the top teams but definitely improved and enjoying more victories.

tell me what is hilarious now since you know so much.

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Posted by: Still just a game ()
Date: October 18, 2014 10:14AM

Boooooo Wrote:
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> Ohhhhhh the refs really screwed you huh

Rebelboy is a little league coach who was tweeting about how Fairfax had third and goal and was gonna bring it in for a touchdown and the win. Then when they couldn't get 36" inches on two downs he decided they'd really meant to call a timeout for a FG attempt to...tie. What a joke.

Guy needs to realize high school games get high school refs.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Major ()
Date: October 18, 2014 09:18PM

falls church destroys Mt.Vernon today 49-20

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Posted by: cvhk ()
Date: October 19, 2014 11:05AM

Rebelman Wrote:
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> When a pass is thrown to a receiver, in order to
> be a completed pass if the receiver is going to
> the ground, the receiver must have possession all
> the way to the ground. A pass was thrown to a
> McLean receiver that popped out as he hit the
> ground and it was somehow ruled a catch.

The "going to the ground" rule is not a High School rule.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ???????? ()
Date: October 19, 2014 04:36PM

why is this a seperate thread from the high school football 2014 thread?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Move on ()
Date: October 19, 2014 06:21PM

>why is this a seperate thread from the high school football 2014 thread?

Why are there idiots. Different people stared different threads at different times with similar topic, duh! Now get lost.

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Posted by: Move on 2 ()
Date: October 19, 2014 06:22PM

*Started.

Guess I'm an idiot too. Still you move on.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ?? ()
Date: October 21, 2014 11:40AM

Steve what are your lines for this upcoming friday nght?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: HS FB threads ()
Date: October 21, 2014 11:52AM

???????? Wrote:
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> why is this a seperate thread from the high school
> football 2014 thread?

This thread is for week to week games to establish point spread for a hypothetical cash wager on local high school football games (not to actually gamble of course) while the other one is for chest-thumping about your favorite high school and getting chippy with those who disagree. Better wear your big boy pads on your typing fingers in that thread.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 22, 2014 09:33AM

?? Wrote:
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> Steve what are your lines for this upcoming friday
> nght?


Yes, please post those soon. I, for one, enjoy reading them and the commentary that goes with them, even if I might not agree.

If you are looking to challenge yourself, you should come up with lines on JV games.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2014 11:04AM

Steve is actually more accurate with his pics and pointspreads than the expert pundits that get paid for this at VirginiaPreps.com
Thanks for your accurate and insightful commentary each week.

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Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 22, 2014 12:55PM

I appreciate the complements. No worries the spreads will keep getting done. This week is a difficult one to get excited for, not much out there in terms of good matchups, but as always there will be a few games that should be entertaining.

Edison @ Falls Church (-8.0)

Hayfield (-28.0) @ Mount Vernon
*Hawks keep rolling.

Langley (-40.0) @ Jefferson
*Liberty is weird this year. Teams look good one week, then bad the next, especially Langley and Fairfax, never know what performance they’ll churn out. I just look at the talent Langley has, their 56 point win against Marshall, and the fact that winless teams check out at this point. I feel confident with the spread here.

Marshall @ Fairfax (-24.0)
*Read above; what team will show up? Regardless Fairfax is at least 3 TDs better. Look for them to cruise.

McLean @ Madison (-17.0)
*McLean is a little up and down too, I think Madison is better and more consistent.

Robinson (-15.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton did something right against Centreville keeping the game somewhat close last week. I think Oakton has the bodies to slow Robinson’s runs but they’ll break a few big ones and that will be the difference.

South County (-35.0) @ Woodson
*Stallions cover the spread every week.

Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ South Lakes

Stuart @ Wakefield (-16.0)

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-21.0)
*This is tricky with AJ Alexander out. I think Braddock should still score at will against the WORST defense in the Northern Region. This could be a shootout, as most of TC’s games are.

Washington-Lee @ Centreville (-49.0)
*Centreville has actually been one of the worst teams at covering the spreads this year. For the talent discrepancy, I am going to keep the spread huge.

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Lee

West Springfield (-7.0) @ Annandale
*This is game of the week, slow week, but two schools having real solid bounce back seasons. I envision this game being close throughout.

Westfield (-31.0) @ Herndon
*Bulldogs trounce Herndon with the most balanced offensive attack in the region.

Yorktown @ Chantilly (-3.0)
*Upset alert for Yorktown. I think Chantilly gives it everything they have to avoid a losing regular season with the prospects of Robinson and Westfield remaining on the schedule. This should be a good one too.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Think man! ()
Date: October 22, 2014 01:37PM

Hey Fan

(Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Fan ()
Date: October 22, 2014 11:04AM

Steve is actually more accurate with his pics and point spreads than the expert pundits that get paid for this at VirginiaPreps.com
Thanks for your accurate and insightful commentary each week.)

Duh!! Steve K2 is only doing Northern VA and is more focused, The VAPREPS GUY is doing the entire state and his coverage attention is more widespread and less focused on 1 area. Stands to reason Steve K2 would be better predicting this area Capt Obvious.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: October 22, 2014 03:34PM

Unusual, but this week I pretty much agree with all your picks/spreads.

That being said, I'm still looking for a good game to go to. I was thinking Yorktown/Chantilly but I already went to Madison/Chantilly. Is it worth seeing SoCo beat down on Woodson? I kinda want to compare SoCo with last years team but I'd like to see a good game. I was at the SoCo/Chantilly game last year and was underwhelmed by SoCo. Perhaps I'll have to go to Loudoun or Prince William Co...

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: CPT Obvious ()
Date: October 22, 2014 07:18PM

Think man! Wrote:
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> Hey Fan
>
> (Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
> Posted by: Fan ()
> Date: October 22, 2014 11:04AM
>
> Steve is actually more accurate with his pics and
> point spreads than the expert pundits that get
> paid for this at VirginiaPreps.com
> Thanks for your accurate and insightful commentary
> each week.)
>
> Duh!! Steve K2 is only doing Northern VA and is
> more focused, The VAPREPS GUY is doing the entire
> state and his coverage attention is more
> widespread and less focused on 1 area. Stands to
> reason Steve K2 would be better predicting this
> area Capt Obvious.


You may be right but there is only 1 editor that does the NOVA games so its pretty much the same scope as Steve's. There is only one guy that does each region; not the entire state.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Sky ()
Date: October 22, 2014 07:56PM

Only disagreements:

Robinson blows out Oakton

Yorktown blows out Chantilly

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 23, 2014 11:52AM

Completely agree with your assessment of Fairfax. They have been maddeningly inconsistent. The JV and Freshman teams seem to have found their stride, though we'll have to see if that can hold up tonight when both play Marshall.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: heavy ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:57PM

soco up 62-0.... not even halftime yet

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 24, 2014 08:57PM

Some scores at the half:

Langley 35 @ Jefferson 0: Saxons should cover.

Yorktown 7 @ Chantilly 7

Westfield 37 @ Herndon 14

Washington Lee 7 @ Centreville 28

McLean 0 @ Madison 27

Stone Bridge 43 @ South Lakes 0

Stuart 0 @ Wakefield 21

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Ponderous ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:19PM

3rd quarter
Falls church 28 Edison 6

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Soco ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:23PM

Soco may drop 100 tonight

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Ponderous ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:32PM

End of 3rd. Falls Church 35, Edison 6.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Pondering ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:49PM

Update on robo game anyone?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Ponderous ()
Date: October 24, 2014 09:57PM

Final Score:
Falls Church 45
Edison 6
Blew the spread.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:25PM

Final: Fairfax 28, Marshall 3. I think your spread was Fairfax by 24, so once again, you nailed the Fairfax spread. Congratulations (one point off doesn't really mean anything).

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Spartans Win ()
Date: October 24, 2014 10:55PM

WS 35 - Annandale 10

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Oakton ()
Date: October 24, 2014 11:05PM

Final. oakton 7, Robinson 0. Their defense was solid. David Allely is a beast.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Ouch ()
Date: October 25, 2014 12:30AM

>Robinson blows out Oakton

Whoops.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ouch is right ()
Date: October 25, 2014 09:43AM

Oakton beat Robinson because Oakton gets better through the season. Robinson had some luck and doesn't get better. Done.

How can anyone actually put SoCo anywhere at the top? THEY HAVEN'T PLAYED ANYONE YET. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? enough with the hype. They are very afraid of this next game.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: soco ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:15AM

ouch is right Wrote:
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> Oakton beat Robinson because Oakton gets better
> through the season. Robinson had some luck and
> doesn't get better. Done.
>
> How can anyone actually put SoCo anywhere at the
> top? THEY HAVEN'T PLAYED ANYONE YET. ARE YOU
> KIDDING ME? enough with the hype. They are very
> afraid of this next game.

How the fuck are we afraid of this next game? this is the only game on the schedule anyone looks foreward to

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: The Truth hurts ()
Date: October 25, 2014 11:02AM

ouch is right Wrote:
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> Oakton beat Robinson because Oakton gets better
> through the season. Robinson had some luck and
> doesn't get better. Done.
>
> How can anyone actually put SoCo anywhere at the
> top? THEY HAVEN'T PLAYED ANYONE YET. ARE YOU
> KIDDING ME? enough with the hype. They are very
> afraid of this next game.


Soco is going to put up at least 40 points on LB and roll right thru to the State.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 25, 2014 11:20AM

Well, not a bad week for spreads. Pretty much all were blowouts as expected. The only real surprise was Oakton over Robinson.

Edison @ Falls Church (-8.0)
*Falls Church won 42-6. Really exceeded the spread.

Hayfield (-28.0) @ Mount Vernon
*Hayfield won 49-21. Love nailing the spread to the point, very few greater feelings.

Langley (-40.0) @ Jefferson
*Langley won 48-7. Another great spread!

Marshall @ Fairfax (-24.0)
*Fairfax won 28-3.

McLean @ Madison (-17.0)
*Madison won 40-0; strong showing for the Warhawks.

Robinson (-15.0) @ Oakton
*Oakton defeated Robinson 7-0.

South County (-35.0) @ Woodson
*Stallions win 69-6. 61-0 at half.

Stone Bridge (-35.0) @ South Lakes
*Stone Bridge won 50-7.

Stuart @ Wakefield (-16.0)
*Wakefield won 42-0.

TC Williams @ Lake Braddock (-21.0)
*Lake Braddock won 52-7. Really looking forward to their game against South County next week..

Washington-Lee @ Centreville (-49.0)
*Centreville won 35-7; done with the big spreads for the Wildcats.

West Potomac (-14.0) @ Lee
*West Potomac won 30-14.

West Springfield (-7.0) @ Annandale
*West Springfield all over Annandale 35-10. The Spartans will be a dangerous team to play in the postseason.

Westfield (-31.0) @ Herndon
*Westfield won 66-28.

Yorktown @ Chantilly (-3.0)
*Yorktown won 17-14. Atleast I called a close one.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Real truth hurts ()
Date: October 25, 2014 01:50PM

The Truth hurts Wrote:
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> ouch is right Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Oakton beat Robinson because Oakton gets better
> > through the season. Robinson had some luck and
> > doesn't get better. Done.
> >
> > How can anyone actually put SoCo anywhere at
> the
> > top? THEY HAVEN'T PLAYED ANYONE YET. ARE YOU
> > KIDDING ME? enough with the hype. They are very
> > afraid of this next game.
>
>
> Soco is going to put up at least 40 points on LB
> and roll right thru to the State.

Bullshit. They haven't played anybody. Two teams with a winning record. They won't beat Centreville or Westfield, and Battlefield and Patriot could probably both take them, let alone Ocean Lakes.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Bruin Buddy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 02:09PM

The real truth is SC puts up 24 on LB and rolls right over WF and CV.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: VHSL Football Game Simulator ()
Date: October 25, 2014 02:48PM

#5 | 2014 South County Stallions 7-0 vs.
#14 | 2014 Lake Braddock Bruins 5-2

Game played in Lorton, Virginia
October 25, 2014

South County is favored to win this game 58 % of the time

Go to VHSL Game Simulator at:

http://www.vhsl-reference.com/simulater3.cfm?TEAM1ID=10597&TEAM1GY=2014&TEAM2ID=10468&TEAM2GY=2014

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SC Vs CVille ()
Date: October 25, 2014 02:50PM

#5 | 2014 South County Stallions 7-0 vs.
#6 | 2014 Centreville Wildcats 5-2

South County is favored to win this game 50 % of the time

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SC vs WF ()
Date: October 25, 2014 02:53PM

#5 | 2014 South County Stallions 7-0 vs.
#2 | 2014 Westfield Bulldogs 6-1

Westfield is favored to win this game 56 % of the time

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Why even post? ()
Date: October 25, 2014 03:09PM

Game Simulator means nothing. It'll all work itself out in the end. Soco people stop stretching for respect, go out win games and that's that! You'll get respect then and only then, not because of a server algorithm. Good luck.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NNL ()
Date: October 25, 2014 03:20PM

#s never lie...WF only has 44% chance of beating SC

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Go back to school ()
Date: October 25, 2014 03:37PM

NNL Wrote:
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> #s never lie...WF only has 44% chance of beating
> SC


I think you need to retake an elementary math class.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NNL ()
Date: October 25, 2014 03:48PM

WF will lose the next 2 games...they wont beat SC.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Simulate this ()
Date: October 25, 2014 04:19PM

Game Simulator works well, HAHA!
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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 25, 2014 04:58PM

I'll call it with my spread next week, stop wasting your time on VHSL simulator. That thing is a joke.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 08:16PM

stop with the game simulator. that thing gets half right and wrong

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: south county guy ()
Date: October 25, 2014 10:26PM

Steve, these games for next year have just come out.
Gameday Nation @GBNMobile
Briar Woods 2015 Opponents:
Westfield, Chantilly, South County, Lee, West Potomac
Stone Bridge 2015 Opponents:
Westfield, Chantilly, Robinson, Madison, Mclean.
Broad Run 2015 Opponents:
Centreville, Oakton, Wakefield, Robinson, Langley.
Tuscarora 2015 Opponents:
Centreville, Oakton, Herndon, Hayfield, Edison
What are your thoughts?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 25, 2014 11:12PM

My thoughts are I am going to have to follow Loudoun more closely next year. These should be some pretty exciting matchups pitting some of the best of Fairfax against the best of Loudoun. Looking forward to it.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: October 27, 2014 04:31PM

Well last week was a great week of spreads, but pretty boring football. This week has a number of great matchups for Halloween. I’ve been around long enough to see a number of crazy scores on Halloween so we’ll see what this Friday has in store.

Centreville (-24.0) @ Herndon
*Herndon’s defense will not be able to stop Centreville from regularly scoring. Low spread, I think more like 5 TDs will be the outcome, but Centreville needs to cover a spread at some point this year.

Chantilly @ Robinson (-6.0)
*This is actually a really interesting game, if Chantilly wins they will make the playoffs, if they lose they’re done. This of course is assuming Chantilly loses to Westfield the following week, which they absolutely will. I just think the last two losses for the Chargers have done them in. Meanwhile Robinson is left with questions after the Concorde is containing their run. Robinson couldn’t score a point against Oakton while Chantilly blew Oakton out. I still think Robinson’s O-line will be the difference here.

Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church
*Hayfield continues to role. Falls Church will provide a good test and this spread may be disrespecting the Jaguars. We shall see. Definitely a good game to attend.

Thomas Jefferson @ McLean (-21.0)

Lake Braddock @ South County (-16.0)
*Game of the Week. I see the Stallions being ready for their only real test of the season and looking to silence the doubters. While Braddock is good, without Alexander they’re not elite, hence their West Springfield loss the week before. Stallions should role in this one.

Madison (-7.0) @ Langley
*This is another real good game with what I perceive as two pretty evenly matched teams. I was a bit torn with Langley being at home but I think Madison is just having a better year. I look for the Warhawks to grind out a good win.

Marshall @ South Lakes (-20.0)
*Be honest, who ever thought Marshall would come into this game with more wins than South Lakes? Despite the win totals, South Lakes had a far more difficult out of district schedule and their athleticism should leave Marshall with too much to overcome.

Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)

Oakton @ Westfield (-20.0)
*Kudos to the Cougars for progressing as the season has gone along. A shutout of Robinson is impressive, holding Centreville to 21 is impressive, but can they stop the most balanced offensive attack in the region? I say no.

Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax

Stuart @ Edison (-3.0)
*The quality of football won’t be that high, but this should be a close game for those that go to these schools and alumni.

WT Woodson (-6.0) @ Lee
*The Cavaliers have really came back to ground after some good performances early on. I look for them to win here though, while
Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-1.0)
*Upset alert for Wakefield. I think a young team experiencing their first success in years is due for a hiccup.

West Potomac @ Annandale (-7.0)
*I am going to ahead and make the safe pick with Annandale, but I will put them on upset alert too. I think the Wolverines are better than their record suggests and it remains to be seen how Annandale will respond after their drubbing last week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Rebelman ()
Date: October 27, 2014 04:54PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Well last week was a great week of spreads, but
> pretty boring football. This week has a number of
> great matchups for Halloween. I’ve been around
> long enough to see a number of crazy scores on
> Halloween so we’ll see what this Friday has in
> store.
>
> Centreville (-24.0) @ Herndon
> *Herndon’s defense will not be able to stop
> Centreville from regularly scoring. Low spread, I
> think more like 5 TDs will be the outcome, but
> Centreville needs to cover a spread at some point
> this year.
>
> Chantilly @ Robinson (-6.0)
> *This is actually a really interesting game, if
> Chantilly wins they will make the playoffs, if
> they lose they’re done. This of course is
> assuming Chantilly loses to Westfield the
> following week, which they absolutely will. I
> just think the last two losses for the Chargers
> have done them in. Meanwhile Robinson is left
> with questions after the Concorde is containing
> their run. Robinson couldn’t score a point
> against Oakton while Chantilly blew Oakton out. I
> still think Robinson’s O-line will be the
> difference here.
>
> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church
> *Hayfield continues to role. Falls Church will
> provide a good test and this spread may be
> disrespecting the Jaguars. We shall see.
> Definitely a good game to attend.
>
> Thomas Jefferson @ McLean (-21.0)
>
> Lake Braddock @ South County (-16.0)
> *Game of the Week. I see the Stallions being
> ready for their only real test of the season and
> looking to silence the doubters. While Braddock
> is good, without Alexander they’re not elite,
> hence their West Springfield loss the week before.
> Stallions should role in this one.
>
> Madison (-7.0) @ Langley
> *This is another real good game with what I
> perceive as two pretty evenly matched teams. I
> was a bit torn with Langley being at home but I
> think Madison is just having a better year. I
> look for the Warhawks to grind out a good win.
>
> Marshall @ South Lakes (-20.0)
> *Be honest, who ever thought Marshall would come
> into this game with more wins than South Lakes?
> Despite the win totals, South Lakes had a far more
> difficult out of district schedule and their
> athleticism should leave Marshall with too much to
> overcome.
>
> Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)
>
> Oakton @ Westfield (-20.0)
> *Kudos to the Cougars for progressing as the
> season has gone along. A shutout of Robinson is
> impressive, holding Centreville to 21 is
> impressive, but can they stop the most balanced
> offensive attack in the region? I say no.
>
> Stone Bridge (-28.0) @ Fairfax
>
> Stuart @ Edison (-3.0)
> *The quality of football won’t be that high, but
> this should be a close game for those that go to
> these schools and alumni.
>
> WT Woodson (-6.0) @ Lee
> *The Cavaliers have really came back to ground
> after some good performances early on. I look for
> them to win here though, while
> Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-1.0)
> *Upset alert for Wakefield. I think a young team
> experiencing their first success in years is due
> for a hiccup.
>
> West Potomac @ Annandale (-7.0)
> *I am going to ahead and make the safe pick with
> Annandale, but I will put them on upset alert too.
> I think the Wolverines are better than their
> record suggests and it remains to be seen how
> Annandale will respond after their drubbing last
> week.


Thanks.

Correction: Fairfax is at Stone Bridge. I know that all too well, and I'm no looking forward to fighting all that Halloween traffic to see the Rebels play.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SOCO WHO ()
Date: October 28, 2014 10:37AM

I cannot understand all the SOCO abuse. It's not the school's fault that the Patriot District took a step back this year. How about giving some credit, however little, to a stable program ever since Pannoni arrived in 2011.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hendo ()
Date: October 28, 2014 10:56AM

Hayfield at Falls Church this Friday is the game to be at!!!!!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hendo doesnt know ()
Date: October 28, 2014 12:08PM

Hendo Wrote:
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> Hayfield at Falls Church this Friday is the game
> to be at!!!!!

You do know that lake braddock visits south county this upcoming friday?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Inquisitive One ()
Date: October 29, 2014 02:30AM

Obviously, Pannoni wants to have the image that he has created at SOCO because there is no strategic reason to run up scores like he does. Otherwise, if he wanted to send a message to the rest of the Northern Region he would schedule schools that are projected to be strong the following year. Unlike college schedules I believe that the schedules are firmed up no more than a year in advance.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: correction ()
Date: October 29, 2014 08:44AM

Schedules are done in 2 year cycles. They are working on the schedules for 2015-16 and 2016-17 right now. Opponents are already set. Home and Away will switch for the second year.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Concorde Fan ()
Date: October 29, 2014 09:17AM

Schedules are already set for next year.

Every Concorde team (except for Herndon) will have to play two schools from Loudon (Briar Woods,Broad Run, Stonebridge, Tuscarora, or Potomac Falls). These D5 schools will impact the power points and their over all schedules as well.

Should make things very interesting next season.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Muran ()
Date: October 30, 2014 09:34AM

Haters gonna hate! I still say if you don't want someone scoring a lot on you, get better!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: no one will go ()
Date: October 30, 2014 12:56PM

No one is going to the games on Halloween, they should be played tonight.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hallows ()
Date: October 31, 2014 11:14PM

1. Can't wait to see how SOCO fanatics justify this ass-whupping. 1:30 left and I'm hoping Braddock goes for 2 to hang 70.

2. "Eff" the VHSL simulator, good for Coach Lalli trying to save his job at Chantilly.

3. Hayfield laying the smacketh down on Falls Church. They had a brutal 1st half of the schedule, but it seems like they're better than record indicates.

4. Steve was right about Langley and Madison being close - does this win give Langley a shot at back end of playoffs?

5. Am I the only one surprised how close Yorktown vs. MV was?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hulett ()
Date: October 31, 2014 11:35PM

Our defense never lets us slack or be lazy in practice. Everybody’s doing their job and working so things don’t end up like last year.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Hulett ()
Date: October 31, 2014 11:38PM

We’re always motivated by Lake Braddock, Last year still holds a little spot in our mind, but I think we’re more focused and determined this year

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 01, 2014 01:22AM

Centreville (-24.0) @ Herndon
*Centreville won 49-27. The Wildcats dominated the game, but interestingly enough they failed to cover another spread I viewed as conservative.

Chantilly @ Robinson (-6.0)
*Chantilly won 28-9. Fantastic win for the Chargers, which should put them back in the playoffs. Robinson is in free fall, I know they had the QB injury which is big, but are people figuring out the new coach? A few weeks ago people were saying he was coach of the year. 3 bad losses in the row and Centreville next week mean Robinson will finish tied for last in the district and limp into the postseason on a 4 game losing streak.

Fairfax @ Stone Bridge (-28.0)
*Stone Bridge won 41-14, damn I am good at spreads for Fairfax. It feels like I've been within a point almost every game.

Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church
*Hayfield won 42-14, dominated.

Thomas Jefferson @ McLean (-21.0)
*McLean won 49-0. Jefferson will finish winless. Good bounce back performance for the Highlanders.

Lake Braddock @ South County (-16.0)
*Lake Braddock 62 @ South County 41; I know I went with the safe pick and picked South County, but it was poetic justice to see the easy schedule come and bite them in the ass. Parents in the bleachers were talking state and I'm thinking who the hell have they beaten? Lake Braddock without Alexander went up and down the field every time they had the ball as this was really the first passing offense the Stallions have gone against this year. South County is better then the score suggests, I'm pretty sure they had 7 turnovers which made the game ugly. I do think they'll advance a couple rounds still, but I am convinced the talk of them beating Centreville or Westfield is farfetched. With a schedule like they had, no way they're ready for the big boys in the playoffs. More troubling to me than the ass kicking was how dejected they looked, guys had their heads down, their was no coaching going on the sideline, it was a pity party; not a resilient team.

On the other side, great win for the Bruins who earned yet another Patriot Conference Title.

Madison (-7.0) @ Langley
*Langley won 21-20. Good win for the Saxons and as expected a great game.

Marshall @ South Lakes (-20.0)
*South Lakes with the 42-14 win.

Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)
*Yorktown won 28-21. Did Yorktown play their JV, not in my wildest dreams can I imagine this being a 7 point game.

Oakton @ Westfield (-20.0)
*Bulldogs win 38-0. They're rolling and have a legitimate shot at states.

Stuart @ Edison (-3.0)
*Edison won 28-0.

WT Woodson (-6.0) @ Lee
*Lee pulls the 19-9 upset. Woodson has regressed as the season has gone along. Terrible loss for the Cavs.

Wakefield @ Washington-Lee (-1.0)
*Picked an upset right, W&L won 27-20.

West Potomac @ Annandale (-7.0)
*Annandale won 31-21.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: LeeWatcher ()
Date: November 01, 2014 10:47AM

The Lee/Woodson score was 25-9

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Coach Dozier ()
Date: November 01, 2014 11:05AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Hayfield (-14.0) @ Falls Church
> *Hayfield won 42-14, dominated.
>
> Mount Vernon @ Yorktown (-28.0)
> *Yorktown won 28-21. Did Yorktown play their JV,
> not in my wildest dreams can I imagine this being
> a 7 point game.

Starting QB Joe Mcbride left the game with a knee injury before halftime. Yorktown piled on 28-0 by the third quarter. Depending on the health of the QB next Friday's matchup against archrival Washington-Lee should be interesting. Like last year both teams have the same record. But it will not be for the district title. Hayfield will likely clinch that with a win over Edison next week. I think this will be Hayfield's first National District title. Since Hayfield joined, I believe only Yorktown and W-L have won.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: nrwatcher4 ()
Date: November 01, 2014 11:11AM

LB is a young team, looking at the roster 8 starters are jr/soph on offense.
Also alot of jr/soph playing on defense.

They have had alot of injuries and having to play younger players for the past few weeks.

The offense is starting to come together and the QB is maturing and making good decisions.

The defense is starting to play better after losing ALexander and nursing a lot of injuries.

They seem to be peaking at the right time, after all the talk about how they have fallen off in the past few weeks, they may be the team to watch, come playoff time.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Woodson ()
Date: November 01, 2014 06:47PM

LeeWatcher Wrote:
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> The Lee/Woodson score was 25-9


Woodson was without starting QB Riley I believe. Still, the new coaching staff has shown absolutely no progress and coaching cost them two early games.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 02, 2014 08:40AM

nrwatcher4 Wrote:
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> LB is a young team, looking at the roster 8
> starters are jr/soph on offense.
> Also alot of jr/soph playing on defense.
>
> They have had alot of injuries and having to play
> younger players for the past few weeks.
>
> The offense is starting to come together and the
> QB is maturing and making good decisions.
>
> The defense is starting to play better after
> losing ALexander and nursing a lot of injuries.
>
> They seem to be peaking at the right time, after
> all the talk about how they have fallen off in the
> past few weeks, they may be the team to watch,
> come playoff time.


Lake Braddock's QB has shown tremendous maturation as the season has gone along. I've seen Braddock play 3 times and he was better each performance. If he can consistently play like he did on Friday Lake Braddock is capable of making some noise in the playoffs. QB needs to learn to get rid of the ball and slide though, he took 3 of the hardest hits on a QB I have seen this year against South County, to the point I was surprised he got up for a couple. Hits like that will take their toll.

To the supporting cast, the receivers are getting better. The routes looked more precise and the offense more comfortable. I don't know how the class breakdown goes for the group, but if most are underclassman then this bodes really well for the Bruins.

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Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 02, 2014 05:09PM

Going out of town so wanted to get this week's lines up. May alter them and add some comments later in the week. Some good rivalry games which are always fun, but nothing sticks out as a must-see.

Annandale @ South County (-28.0)

Centreville (-21.0) @ Robinson
*Robinson will head into the playoffs on a 4 game skid.

Edison @ Hayfield (-21.0)
*Hawks will win their 7th in a row heading into the playoffs after 3 losses to region powers. This team was extremely close to taking down South County too, held a lead for a large portion; and stayed within striking distance of Westfield throughout. Not a team most want to see in round 1.

Falls Church (-20.0) @ Stuart
*This will be a blow out. Disappointing season for the Raiders.

Herndon @ Oakton (-6.0)
*These two teams are pretty evenly matched. Should be a decent game on Friday.

Lee @ Lake Braddock (-30.0)

Madison (-28.0) @ Marshall

McLean @ Langley (-10.5)

Mount Vernon @ Wakefield (-24.0)

South Lakes @ Fairfax (-14.0)

Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ Jefferson

TC Williams @ West Potomac (-5.0)

WT Woodson @ West Springfield (-27.0)

Westfield (-16.0) @ Chantilly
*Game of the Week: Westfield should be too much, but Chantilly is coming off their best win of the year, which should assure the Chargers a spot in the postseason. In a rivalry game, we’ll see if the Chargers can keep it interesting.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: SOCO DEBACLE ()
Date: November 03, 2014 09:39AM

Yup; 7 turnovers will result in a defeat every time. On the plus side, when the offense held onto the ball, they were dangerous. The defense looked lost: both Hayfield and now LB showed the way to go is to pass, pass, pass. Hopefully Friday was a wakeup call for everyone - players and coaches alike.

On another note, shame on the LB student section for interrupting the singing of the National Anthem - hats/caps off kids and be respectful - your conduct was a discredit to your school.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Sc chumps ()
Date: November 03, 2014 11:41AM

Sc doesn't make it out of second round
They've been exposed with there athletic talent and on side kick strategy

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Ldosb ()
Date: November 04, 2014 02:58PM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> Going out of town so wanted to get this week's
> lines up. May alter them and add some comments
> later in the week. Some good rivalry games which
> are always fun, but nothing sticks out as a
> must-see.
>

You forgot Yorktown v. Washington-Lee

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Cvilleplayer ()
Date: November 05, 2014 01:07PM

Centreville's Defensive Coordinator Adam Neff has been fired following a heated disagreement between himself and Head Coach Chris Haddock. Many players are still in the dark about what caused the arguement. Coach Marc Mathie will be returning as the Defensive Coordinator and absorb all of Neff's duties. Could be a blessing in disguise.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Adam Neff ()
Date: November 05, 2014 02:24PM

F-U

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: sicer ()
Date: November 05, 2014 05:12PM

Since Mr. K2 is away, my thoughts on Ytn @ W-L. If the Yorktown QB is healthy expect a competitive game between rivals that could go either way. If he is out, W-L should easily win this one. Arlington County "championship" is on the line.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: All of Centreville ()
Date: November 05, 2014 05:43PM

F yourself Neff.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Neff for prez ()
Date: November 08, 2014 12:02AM

W-L sucks
I mean they are quite bad at football playing.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: curious11 ()
Date: November 08, 2014 06:16PM

no analysis from last nights games?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: dawg pounder ()
Date: November 08, 2014 06:23PM

Westfield will win everything, the team told me so

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 08, 2014 08:21PM

Just got back in. Proud of myself for the spreads this week, I went 14-0 in out right picks and almost every spread was super close to the actual score. Again, if your not on the Steve K2 thread, and your posting on here about high school football, shame on you. That’s my sales pitch for the playoffs and next year.

Postseason predictions will likely be posted Wednesday this week.

Annandale @ South County (-28.0)
*South County won 49-15, no surprise here.

Centreville (-21.0) @ Robinson
*Had I known AJ Turner would be back the spread would have been higher. Centreville cruised 55-14. I’ve been saying it all year, I have no doubt Centreville and Westfield are heading on a collision course for another region championship and I can’t wait!

Edison @ Hayfield (-21.0)
*Hayfield won 28-10. No surprise the Hawks finished the regular season on a 7 game winning streak. Having played Westfield and South County close in the early weeks they are an intriguing postseason team to keep an eye on. Still don’t think they can knock off a big dog though.

Falls Church (-20.0) @ Stuart
*Falls Church beat Stuart 34-15, these spreads are looking good so far.

Herndon @ Oakton (-6.0)
*In a winner goes to the postseason, loser goes home, Oakton won 21-16. Oakton jumped out to a big lead before letting Herndon back in the game.

Lee @ Lake Braddock (-30.0)
*Lake Braddock won 47-20 and the spreads are still looking great!

Madison (-28.0) @ Marshall
*Madison beat Marshall 36-6.

McLean @ Langley (-10.5)
*In a winner goes to the postseason, loser goes home rivalry game this one turned out to be all Langley with the Saxons winning 36-13.

Mount Vernon @ Wakefield (-24.0)
*Wakefield won 45-12.

South Lakes @ Fairfax (-14.0)
*Fairfax won 16-7, flat night for the Rebels offensively.

Stone Bridge (-40.0) @ Jefferson
*Stone Bridge won 53-8; Jefferson finishes as the lone team in the region with 0 W’s.

TC Williams @ West Potomac (-5.0)
*West Potomac won 31-23.

WT Woodson @ West Springfield (-27.0)
*West Springfield won 44-0. The Spartans are a team that will be interesting to follow in the postseason. They appear to be pretty legitimate.

Westfield (-16.0) @ Chantilly
*This was my shocker of the night, Westfield 53-0 in a rivalry game. No, I’m not surprised Westfield won convincingly, but for the Chargers to have their worst loss ever in the series, that was surprising and the boys wearing purple should be embarrassed for that performance. Chantilly technically finished 3rd in the Concorde and will be going to the postseason, but Oakton and Robinson who they beat both played much better than the Chargers against the likes of Westfield and Centreville who outscored Chantilly 102-0 combined. I look for the Chargers to be a quick out and Westfield to be hosting the region championship in a few weeks.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 08, 2014 08:36PM

I will hold off on the spreads but here is the D6 field.

(16) Langley @ (1) Centreville
*I guess Centreville got the 1 seed by a tenth of a point. Westfield deserved it, but they might actually play better on the road in big games.

(9) Yorktown @ (8) Patriot

(13) Annandale @ (4) Battlefield
*I see a lot of people on the other thread assuming South County is going to get by Battlefield. Not a safe assumption. I haven’t seen them play, but I am told they are real legitimate.

(12) Robinson @ (5) South County
*Oh boy, this one is going could be fun! Upset alert for the Stallions. I know Robinson comes in having lost 4 in a row, but South County still didn’t face many Robinson caliber teams on their schedule this year.

(15) Stonewall Jackson @ (2) Westfield

(10) Chantilly @ (7) Hayfield
*Hayfield should win this one, but this is still an intriguing matchup as Chantilly has some good wins under their belt and are unlikely to be intimidated by Hayfield. That being said a Charger win would set up a rematch with Westfield and they may not have much fight just for that reason.

(14) Oakton @ (3) Lake Braddock
*Oakton stunned Lake Braddock 2 years ago on the road in route to a region title. Being a Concorde team still isn’t something I take likely, this could be a good one.

(11) Washington-Lee @ (6) West Springfield
*This could not have worked out better for the Spartans. They get arguably the weakest team in the postseason field round 1, then a Braddock team who they beat a few weeks ago. I have been saying watch out for a Spartan postseason run and a trip to the final 4 isn’t out of the question here. At the moment would like Braddock though in a potential rematch next week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 09, 2014 02:12AM

(16) Langley @ (1) Centreville (-12)
*I guess Centreville got the 1 seed by a tenth of a point. Westfield deserved it, but they might actually play better on the road in big games.

(9) Yorktown (-24) @ (8) Patriot

(13) Annandale @ (4) Battlefield (-3)
*I see a lot of people on the other thread assuming South County is going to get by Battlefield. Not a safe assumption. I haven’t seen them play, but I am told they are real legitimate.

(12) Robinson @ (5) South County (-14)
*Oh boy, this one is going could be fun! Upset alert for the Stallions. I know Robinson comes in having lost 4 in a row, but South County still didn’t face many Robinson caliber teams on their schedule this year.

(15) Stonewall Jackson @ (2) Westfield (-32)

(10) Chantilly @ (7) Hayfield (-10)
*Hayfield should win this one, but this is still an intriguing matchup as Chantilly has some good wins under their belt and are unlikely to be intimidated by Hayfield. That being said a Charger win would set up a rematch with Westfield and they may not have much fight just for that reason.

(14) Oakton @ (3) Lake Braddock (-21)
*Oakton stunned Lake Braddock 2 years ago on the road in route to a region title. Being a Concorde team still isn’t something I take likely, this could be a good one.

(11) Washington-Lee @ (6) West Springfield (-10)
*This could not have worked out better for the Spartans. They get arguably the weakest team in the postseason field round 1, then a Braddock team who they beat a few weeks ago. I have been saying watch out for a Spartan postseason run and a trip to the final 4 isn’t out of the question here. At the moment would like Braddock though in a potential rematch next week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 09, 2014 05:39AM

Just an fyi those spreads above are not mine and pretty bad. Someone is an imposter.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 09, 2014 06:55AM

(16) Langley @ (1) Centreville (-12)
*I guess Centreville got the 1 seed by a tenth of a point. Westfield deserved it, but they might actually play better on the road in big games.

(9) Yorktown (-24) @ (8) Patriot

(13) Annandale (-3) @ (4) Battlefield
*I see a lot of people on the other thread assuming South County is going to get by Battlefield. Not a safe assumption. I haven’t seen them play, but I am told they are real legitimate.

(12) Robinson @ (5) South County (-14)
*Oh boy, this one is going could be fun! Upset alert for the Stallions. I know Robinson comes in having lost 4 in a row, but South County still didn’t face many Robinson caliber teams on their schedule this year.

(15) Stonewall Jackson @ (2) Westfield (-32)

(10) Chantilly @ (7) Hayfield (-10)
*Hayfield should win this one, but this is still an intriguing matchup as Chantilly has some good wins under their belt and are unlikely to be intimidated by Hayfield. That being said a Charger win would set up a rematch with Westfield and they may not have much fight just for that reason.

(14) Oakton @ (3) Lake Braddock (-21)
*Oakton stunned Lake Braddock 2 years ago on the road in route to a region title. Being a Concorde team still isn’t something I take likely, this could be a good one.

(11) Washington-Lee @ (6) West Springfield (-4)
*This could not have worked out better for the Spartans. They get arguably the weakest team in the postseason field round 1, then a Braddock team who they beat a few weeks ago. I have been saying watch out for a Spartan postseason run and a trip to the final 4 isn’t out of the question here. At the moment would like Braddock though in a potential rematch next week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Jimmy the Greek ()
Date: November 09, 2014 10:55AM

Steve,

No offense, but you usually suck week in and week out.

Yorktown minus 24 against Patriot? Surely, you jest. Patriot will likely win, but if they don't it will be a close one.

Centreville minus 12? Oh boy - way to go out on a limb. When Centreville wins by 30 or more, you will then count that game as a winner? Ponderous, man.

Oh, and Annandale has no chance against Battlefield, yet you have them as a three point favorite?

Come back at me on Saturday and see if I wasn't correct on all three of these!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 09, 2014 04:08PM

Jimmy someone started posting as me last night. Those aren't my spreads, the dumb imposter didn't even use half points. Imposters and haters, love it!

Had you followed me all along Centreville rarely matches my spreads. Go ahead do a line and we'll see who is closer. My picks will be up Wednesday with the registered address of Steve K. The imposter also registered my name, some people are pathetic

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 09, 2014 04:21PM

Confirmation: Jimmy someone started posting as me last night. Those aren't my spreads, the dumb imposter didn't even use half points. Imposters and haters, love it!

Had you followed me all along Centreville rarely matches my spreads. Go ahead do a line and we'll see who is closer. My picks will be up Wednesday with the registered address of Steve K. The imposter also registered my name, some people are pathetic

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Re: Steve K2's illegal HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: November 09, 2014 07:49PM

Good. now an IP address can be confirmed with the registered name of "Steve K".

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: War Eagle ()
Date: November 10, 2014 09:34PM

Langley beat Madison on 2 of the worst call you will ever see. One the calls was a INT to end the game. Cost Madison the playoffs and they would have been dangerous wit dat D.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Barwin ()
Date: November 10, 2014 09:54PM

War Eagle Wrote:
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> Langley beat Madison on 2 of the worst call you
> will ever see. One the calls was a INT to end the
> game. Cost Madison the playoffs and they would
> have been dangerous wit dat D.


...said nobody, ever.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: PndnV ()
Date: November 13, 2014 08:43AM

Steve? Picks?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: crickets ()
Date: November 13, 2014 10:43PM

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 14, 2014 06:04AM

(16) Stonewall Jackson @ (1) Centreville (-30.0)
*My knowledge on the PWC teams is not great, but I know Centreville will cruise here. Look for the Wildcats to be the healthiest they’ve been this year at the right time.

(9) Yorktown @ (8) Patriot (-14.0)
*Patriot and Yorktown teams I’ve seen. Patriot appeared to be legit to me. I look for their big line paired with playmakers to be too much for Yorktown.

(13) Annandale @ (4) Battlefield (-24.5)
*Battlefield is a sleeper for some in this tournament. Annandale has had a great year but they are not on par with what Battlefield brings to the table.

(12) Robinson @ (5) South County (-20.0)
*The matchup is intriguing, but the Stallions are built to stop the run. A good passing attack will do the Stallions in, but that is not something Robinson has. Stallions should prevail.

(15) Langley @ (2) Westfield (-28.0)
*As with Fairfax, Langley has been a Jekyll and Hyde all year. They are capable of keeping the spread down, but no shot in hell at winning. I look for a blowout in the Bulldogs favor though.

(10) Chantilly @ (7) Hayfield (-8.5)
*The Hawks may role here, but Chantilly brings it from time to time. Coming off a 53-0 drubbing to Westfield I expect the Chargers to finish with a good performance on Friday coming up just short.

(14) Oakton @ (3) Lake Braddock (-15.5)
*On paper the Bruins should crush Oakton based on talent. That being said, Oakton’s coaching staff has a great track record in the postseason with sound game plans. I almost want to put the Bruins on upset alert, but won’t go that far.

(11) Washington-Lee @ (6) West Springfield (-28.0)

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: November 14, 2014 08:27AM

Centreville will win by +35
Yorktown upsets Patriot
Battlefield line is probably right
South County line is probably a little low
Westfield probably right
I think Hayfield wins by +20
Oakton - Lake Braddock intriguing. Don't know where this line should be - could be close - could be a +28 blowout
West Springfield probably about right

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: chargers ()
Date: November 14, 2014 08:31AM

I don't understand why Chantilly keeps getting any respect/benefit of the doubt. They could not have been more terrible/ineffective when I saw them.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: November 14, 2014 10:10AM

Like many teams - Chantilly's past success is what people tend to remember. But this is not your Chantilly team of the past - they just did not look that good to me - I saw them play twice this year and I am pretty confident that Hayfield will put up some big numbers on them. Of course, the cold/windy weather might play a little bit in favor of teams that rely more on the run than the pass.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Loudoncoach ()
Date: November 14, 2014 01:51PM

any lines or picks for the 5A teams?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Loudoncoach ()
Date: November 14, 2014 02:02PM

Concorde Fan Wrote:
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> Schedules are done in 2 year cycles. They are
> working on the schedules for 2015-16 and 2016-17
> right now. Opponents are already set. Home and
> Away will switch for the second year.

5A power teams will win most of the matchups next year in my opinion. SB played close games vs LB and WF this year.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Loudoncoach ()
Date: November 14, 2014 02:07PM

War Eagle Wrote:
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> Langley beat Madison on 2 of the worst call you
> will ever see. One the calls was a INT to end the
> game. Cost Madison the playoffs and they would
> have been dangerous wit dat D.

Mad D held vs us till 4th quarter. #40 one of the best LB I saw this year. Was he new or transfer?

#40 Madison HL
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1815832/highlights/171066379

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Loudoncoach ()
Date: November 14, 2014 02:15PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> (12) Robinson @ (5) South County (-20.0)
> *The matchup is intriguing, but the Stallions are
> built to stop the run. A good passing attack will
> do the Stallions in, but that is not something
> Robinson has. Stallions should prevail.

Game would be closer if Robinson didnt have injuries. Any update on the guys thet are hurt?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Cvilleplayer ()
Date: November 14, 2014 02:41PM

Centreville's defensive standout Tyler Love is out for the season with an MCL injury.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: November 14, 2014 03:34PM

Loudoncoach Wrote:
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> Concorde Fan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Schedules are done in 2 year cycles. They are
> > working on the schedules for 2015-16 and
> 2016-17
> > right now. Opponents are already set. Home and
> > Away will switch for the second year.
>
> 5A power teams will win most of the matchups next
> year in my opinion. SB played close games vs LB
> and WF this year.

My gut early forecast would be:
Briar Woods: 3-2 (W vs. Chantilly, Lee, West Potomac; losses vs. Westfield, South County)
Stone Bridge: 3-2 (W vs. Chantilly, Madison, McLean; losses vs. Westfield, Robinson)
Broad Run: 3-2 (W vs. Oakton, Wakefield, Langley; losses vs. Centreville, Robinson)
Tuscarora: 3-2 (W vs. Oakton, Herndon, Edison; losses vs. Centreville, Hayfield)
That would put them at 12-8 assuming no upsets. There probably will be so yeah, they will likely go in the 13-7 to 15-5 range. The games against Conference 5 will be interesting for sure.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 14, 2014 04:00PM

Here are some D5 spreads to decipher. Haven't seen or followed most of these teams which is why I focused on D6.

Edison @ Tuscarora (-35.0)

Freedom-Woodbridge @ Stone Bridge (-38.0)

Mountain View @ Briar Woods (-28.0)

North Stafford @ Falls Church (-6.0)
*North Stafford was really good last year, maybe they have enough for an upset.

Potomac Falls (-10.0) @ Wakefield

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: DeJaVu ()
Date: November 14, 2014 05:25PM

Steve 2k circa 2012 playoffs:

No. 7 Oakton at No. 2 Lake Braddock (-8.0)

Buckle Up!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 14, 2014 10:21PM

RydelllRoad Wrote:
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> Like many teams - Chantilly's past success is what
> people tend to remember. But this is not your
> Chantilly team of the past - they just did not
> look that good to me - I saw them play twice this
> year and I am pretty confident that Hayfield will
> put up some big numbers on them. Of course, the
> cold/windy weather might play a little bit in
> favor of teams that rely more on the run than the
> pass.

Chantilly is a Concorde team, that is why they get respect, and why you can't take them lightly. Like I said, they have their weeks, great win for the Chargers!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 14, 2014 10:45PM

(16) Stonewall Jackson @ (1) Centreville (-30.0)
*Centreville won 56-14.

(9) Yorktown @ (8) Patriot (-14.0)
*Patriot won 48-21; told you these PWC teams looked pretty legit.

(13) Annandale @ (4) Battlefield (-24.5)
*Battlefield wins 49-20.

(12) Robinson @ (5) South County (-20.0)
*South County won 50-23. Robinson lead for a good portion until the wheels fell off in the 3rd.

(15) Langley @ (2) Westfield (-28.0)
Westfield won 47-20.

(10) Chantilly @ (7) Hayfield (-8.5)
*Chantilly won 49-35. Fantastic win for the Concorde and the Chargers, figured they respond well after the 53-0 drubbing. Up next a rematch with Westfield...

(14) Oakton @ (3) Lake Braddock (-15.5)
*Lake Braddock won 41-14. Good win for the Bruins.

(11) Washington-Lee @ (6) West Springfield (-28.0)
*West Springfield won 38-20.

So I believe next week we get...

(8) Patriot @ (1) Centreville
*Don't sleep on this one but Centreville should take care of business.

(5) South County @ (4) Battlefield
*Game of the Week

(10) Chantilly @ (2) Westfield
*Chantilly with the huge win can hold their heads high, no point in watching this one though.

(6) West Springfield @ (3) Lake Braddock
*Both teams come in 9-2, Spartans beat the Bruins a few weeks ago, this should be a great one!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: nr901 ()
Date: November 14, 2014 11:28PM

Braddock 44-14 over Oakton. So much for the upset alert.
Looks like Braddock finally got healthy and at the right time.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: DickLips ()
Date: November 16, 2014 11:12AM

Hylton looked great! One and done. against a 8th seed. Didn't Hylton crush Patriot and Battlefield? Yorktown sucks.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 17, 2014 01:00PM

(8) Patriot @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
*Patriot is one of the better teams Centreville has played this year. Getting healthy though, Centreville should have plenty to win this game comfortably.

(5) South County @ (4) Battlefield (-8.0)
*This is going to be a good game. Battlefield has a respectable passing game which is the Stallions kryptonite.

(10) Chantilly @ (2) Westfield (-28.0)
*I don't think we're going 53-0 like a couple weeks ago, Chantilly is better than that. Unfortunately though, the 53-0 score does tell me Chantilly has no chance in this rivalry game, and Chantilly's winning postseason record against the Bulldogs will soon be a .500 one.

(6) West Springfield @ (3) Lake Braddock (-7.0)
*The Spartans can beat the Bruins again in this battle of 9-2 teams. I really like the way Braddock's offense has come along though. It wouldn't stun me if the Spartans win, but I feel pretty comfortable going with the Bruins here based on the emergence of their QB the past few weeks.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: NR1991 ()
Date: November 17, 2014 08:46PM

WS V LB

Braddock has had a number of injuries this year, most of them were back for the TC game, with the exception of Alexander who is out for the season. Look at what they have done the since on offense, with those players getting healthy, averaging 45 plus points a game. I think WS will see a totally different Braddock team this week, one that can score from anywhere on the field, run or pass.

I dont see this being close this time, Braddock is much better, WS has stayed the same. Braddock in a blow out. 42-14

SC v Battlefield

SC has to many athletes for Battlefield. They will surprise Battlefield with their tricks and will win a close one. 35-28

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: LB hurt vaginas ()
Date: November 18, 2014 10:13AM

NR1991 Wrote:
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> WS V LB
>
> Braddock has had a number of injuries this year,
> most of them were back for the TC game, with the
> exception of Alexander who is out for the season.
> Look at what they have done the since on offense,
> with those players getting healthy, averaging 45
> plus points a game. I think WS will see a totally
> different Braddock team this week, one that can
> score from anywhere on the field, run or pass.
>
> I dont see this being close this time, Braddock is
> much better, WS has stayed the same. Braddock in a
> blow out. 42-14
>
> SC v Battlefield
>
> SC has to many athletes for Battlefield. They will
> surprise Battlefield with their tricks and will
> win a close one. 35-28

That's funny
Lb had a # of injuries on offense defense and special teams and that is why they lost to WS.
Then LB showed up to beat a weak TCW (2-8)
Good luck on that blow out

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 22, 2014 07:42AM

(8) Patriot @ (1) Centreville (-25.0)
*Centreville won 62-28.

(5) South County @ (4) Battlefield (-8.0)
*Battlefield won 41-36. The Bobcats jumped out to a big lead before the Stallions come back effort fell short.

(10) Chantilly @ (2) Westfield (-28.0)
*Westfield won 27-7. Told you the Chargers would play better, they're just no where near a Westfield talent wise. This was a 10 point game for a large part of it.

(6) West Springfield @ (3) Lake Braddock (-7.0)
*Lake Braddock won 27-24 on a TD as time expired, what a game.

So we have the top 4 seeds in the semi-finals. As I've said all year, it's obvious to me Centreville and Westfield are on a collision course for an amazing championship game.

(4) Battlefield @ (1) Centreville

(3) Lake Braddock @ (2) Westfield

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Football Parent ()
Date: November 22, 2014 08:11AM

2014 Football Bracket QuarterFinal Results
Attachments:
Football 6A North Bracket Quarterfinals.xls.pdf

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: November 26, 2014 09:11AM

Steve K Wrote:
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> (4) Battlefield @ (1) Centreville
>
> (3) Lake Braddock @ (2) Westfield


I guess you picked Centreville and Westfield. But would like to see your spread and rationale.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 27, 2014 10:52AM

Here you go and Happy Thanksgiving. I am actually excited for both these games. Battlefield and Braddock are worthy opponents that are capable of shocking the region. I'm sticking with the Centreville-Westfield projected final but for the first time this year I have Centreville on an upset alert.

Battlefield @ Centreville (-14.0)
*I must say I really do like this Battlefield team. Balanced play calling, big lines on both sides, there’s no debating their 11-1 record. I am assuming they get some first downs with their balanced offense and are able to control the clock. In the end though I see Centreville making a few big plays that turn out to be the difference. I think in a lot of ways, Battlefield is comparable to a Westfield. This has the potential to be an exciting game in the 4th which I am leaning toward, but Centreville also is capable of winning by 5 touchdowns, especially if Battlefield gets off to a slow start.

That being said, I’ll go out on the limb and say this is a good game. In fact, for the first time this year I’ll put Centreville on upset alert. Don’t think it will happen, but it can.

Lake Braddock @ Westfield (-16.0)
*I know Lake Braddock has been playing great as of late which makes this game intriguing. The QB for LB is on another level than the first time these two teams played early in the season where Braddock won. That being said, the first time 4 botched snaps, 10+ holds, and Westfield kicking the ball to AJ Alexander led to the minor upset. I see none of the above happening in round 2. Similar to round 1 though, if Westfield isn’t up by more than 1 possession at halftime, this game will be very, very interesting.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: November 27, 2014 10:01PM

Good thoughts but I think Centreville will win by a minimum of 21. Westfield spread should be more like -3. Battlefield beating Centreville would be shocking. LB over Westfield not really. After all, they have already done it once.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: uh oh ()
Date: November 28, 2014 05:02PM

Westfield spread is way too high!
No one knows how it will turn out, and it could be a blowout, but that doesn't change the fact that the line is ridiculously high. As a supposed linemaker, you have been pretty good, but this is one of the few times you really erred.
Compare the records, stats, schedule, head to head, etc.... and on paper this is a 1-4 point spread.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Football ()
Date: November 28, 2014 05:21PM

Westfield I goin to kill lake Braddock. Lake Braddock barely squeaked by west Springfield. And if you think west Springfield (an average team) could beat westfield you are mistaken. Westfield will beat lake Braddock by 21. Unless west springfield is a lot better than anyone thinks, then lake Braddock is going to struggle

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 28, 2014 05:24PM

uh oh Wrote:
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> Westfield spread is way too high!
> No one knows how it will turn out, and it could be
> a blowout, but that doesn't change the fact that
> the line is ridiculously high. As a supposed
> linemaker, you have been pretty good, but this is
> one of the few times you really erred.
> Compare the records, stats, schedule, head to
> head, etc.... and on paper this is a 1-4 point
> spread.


It is real possible that you are right and I am under respecting Lake Braddock. The solution is to take the perceived bone you suspect me of throwing and pick Braddock based on the spread. I do think both games have the potential to be special, my gut just says Westfield will pull away at some point; it's been wrong before though.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: November 29, 2014 06:23PM

Battlefield @ Centreville (-14.0)
*Centreville did jump off to that quick start and the game was over 8 minutes in. Centreville won 56-21. Wildcats have been as advertised and appear worthy of their preseason hype since AJ Turner's return. I don't know what they have down in the beach this year, but whoever they have, Centreville has got to be the favorite to win states.

Lake Braddock @ Westfield (-16.0)
*Westfield ran out to a 35-0 lead and cruised to the 42-20 win. Really, the Bulldogs could not have looked more impressive in this matchup, and the rematch everyone wants to see between these two storied programs will happen next Saturday.


Westfield @ Centreville next week.
*College talent all over the field, a tremendous rivalry, and both schools good enough to win states; wow can Saturday get here. I could give a damn who Centreville has lining up against the Bulldogs, Westfield will come ready to play and this should be a fantastic game. The line will be out later in the week and no doubt Centreville will be the favorite, but I am really looking forward to this one.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Beetie Beetie ()
Date: November 29, 2014 06:32PM

The Westfield v Lake Braddock game wasn't even as close as the score indicates. Westfield put in the 2nd stringers for the 4th quarter. Their starting defense only allowed one touchdown and that was late in the 3rd quarter when W was up 42 - 0. Lake Braddock was in over their heads and the only reason it wasn't worse than the 42 points was because the refs were trying to keep it interesting by bogus quick whistles on an obvious fumble, not calling massive holding by the outside LB offensive line and pass interference calls against Westfield on balls that LaShawn Jackson couldn't even catch.

All in all, a resounding thumping. Lake Braddock did have better looking chicks however. And Centreville's Turner is going to run all over the Westfield linebackers, who had lots of poor/missed tackles and the d-backs couldn't cover LB's receivers most of the game.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: November 30, 2014 11:24AM

"And Centreville's Turner is going to run all over the Westfield linebackers, who had lots of poor/missed tackles and the d-backs couldn't cover LB's receivers most of the game."

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Turner may get some yards and score some points, that's not anything one wouldn't expect but I have to wonder what game you were watching yesterday. Westfield played a soft zone all day, forcing everything in front so as not to give up any big plays. Their LB's didn't seem to have any problems making tackles either, heck, one of them made so many plays he was interviewed by the Post afterward.

Westfield has a solid defense, pretty much a solid team, they just don't have the number of stars that Centreville does. But I would be very surprised to see a repeat of last year's game. I'm guessing it will be a little more close to the type that we saw earlier this year.

Just my thoughts, I'm sure there will be plenty that disagree but to say Westfield's LB's missed or poor tackles and that their DB's couldn't cover yesterday is just ridiculous. Remember, before yesterday Lake Braddock's offense and Kyle Edwards was on fire even without AJ Alexander. Westfield simply shut it down, now their 2nd and 3rd string defense did give up some plays and miss tackles. That’s the only reason Braddock scored, was 42-0 early 4th quarter when all starters were pulled. Maybe that’s what the original post was referring to, I’m pretty sure none of those kids will be playing next week.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Westfield rocks ()
Date: November 30, 2014 11:29AM

Westfield will win by more than two touchdowns, take it to the bank!

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve K ()
Date: December 02, 2014 10:45AM

It is upon us and the rewards are extreme. The Northern Region Championship and a birth in the State Title Game will be decided Saturday. For the third time in four years we are treated to another Centreville-Westfield championship.

Westfield @ Centreville (-10.0)
*Centreville now has too much as they look to avenge their double overtime loss from several weeks ago.

Westfield is a very worthy opponent who is capable of winning this game. In round 1 Westfield's balanced attack put Centreville's D on edge. Between the pass and run Westfield should be able to move the ball but with Centreville more healthy I look for the passing game to be slowed down. This will be lower scoring than the round 1 affair, but I look for Centreville to break a couple more big plays with their speed being the difference.

Make it out Saturday, this game is going to be awesome.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: VTboy ()
Date: December 02, 2014 01:00PM

Steve K Wrote:
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> It is upon us and the rewards are extreme. The
> Northern Region Championship and a birth in the
> State Title Game will be decided Saturday. For
> the third time in four years we are treated to
> another Centreville-Westfield championship.
>
> Westfield @ Centreville (-10.0)
> *Centreville now has too much as they look to
> avenge their double overtime loss from several
> weeks ago.
>
> Westfield is a very worthy opponent who is capable
> of winning this game. In round 1 Westfield's
> balanced attack put Centreville's D on edge.
> Between the pass and run Westfield should be able
> to move the ball but with Centreville more healthy
> I look for the passing game to be slowed down.
> This will be lower scoring than the round 1
> affair, but I look for Centreville to break a
> couple more big plays with their speed being the
> difference.
>
> Make it out Saturday, this game is going to be
> awesome.

If CVille has Boose and Love, I bet your spread would be -14 or more, WF would have virtually no chance. But without these two, could be interesting. Rain forecast perhaps impacts WF passing game? But also puts emphasis on running game, which could hurt Cville who clearly would miss Boose's tough inside running.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: C'ville running backs ()
Date: December 02, 2014 03:14PM

VTboy Wrote:
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> Steve K Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is upon us and the rewards are extreme. The
> > Northern Region Championship and a birth in the
> > State Title Game will be decided Saturday. For
> > the third time in four years we are treated to
> > another Centreville-Westfield championship.
> >
> > Westfield @ Centreville (-10.0)
> > *Centreville now has too much as they look to
> > avenge their double overtime loss from several
> > weeks ago.
> >
> > Westfield is a very worthy opponent who is
> capable
> > of winning this game. In round 1 Westfield's
> > balanced attack put Centreville's D on edge.
> > Between the pass and run Westfield should be
> able
> > to move the ball but with Centreville more
> healthy
> > I look for the passing game to be slowed down.
> > This will be lower scoring than the round 1
> > affair, but I look for Centreville to break a
> > couple more big plays with their speed being
> the
> > difference.
> >
> > Make it out Saturday, this game is going to be
> > awesome.
>
> If CVille has Boose and Love, I bet your spread
> would be -14 or more, WF would have virtually no
> chance. But without these two, could be
> interesting. Rain forecast perhaps impacts WF
> passing game? But also puts emphasis on running
> game, which could hurt Cville who clearly would
> miss Boose's tough inside running.

Good point. I wonder why Cville doesn't put Nickens-Yzer in at fullback to replace Boose. He runs tough and he shouldn't have a problem breaking away with his 4.4 speed.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: December 02, 2014 04:35PM

VTboy Wrote:
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> Steve K Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > It is upon us and the rewards are extreme. The
> > Northern Region Championship and a birth in the
> > State Title Game will be decided Saturday. For
> > the third time in four years we are treated to
> > another Centreville-Westfield championship.
> >
> > Westfield @ Centreville (-10.0)
> > *Centreville now has too much as they look to
> > avenge their double overtime loss from several
> > weeks ago.
> >
> > Westfield is a very worthy opponent who is
> capable
> > of winning this game. In round 1 Westfield's
> > balanced attack put Centreville's D on edge.
> > Between the pass and run Westfield should be
> able
> > to move the ball but with Centreville more
> healthy
> > I look for the passing game to be slowed down.
> > This will be lower scoring than the round 1
> > affair, but I look for Centreville to break a
> > couple more big plays with their speed being
> the
> > difference.
> >
> > Make it out Saturday, this game is going to be
> > awesome.
>
> If CVille has Boose and Love, I bet your spread
> would be -14 or more, WF would have virtually no
> chance. But without these two, could be
> interesting. Rain forecast perhaps impacts WF
> passing game? But also puts emphasis on running
> game, which could hurt Cville who clearly would
> miss Boose's tough inside running.

>Good point. I wonder why Cville doesn't put Nickens-Yzer in at fullback to >replace Boose. He runs tough and he shouldn't have a problem breaking away >with his 4.4 speed.

Pretty sure Nickens-Yzer has a cast on one hand, broken thumb maybe. Don't think the rain much slows passing attack unless it's a downpour. Westfield does have the ability to pound it out on offense. The real question is can Westfield's defense play stout, they've given up 47 points in the last 5 games. It was 42-0 with 8:52 to go in 4th against LB when the 2nd and 3rd teamers went in. Should be interesting, guess we'll find out soon enough.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: RydelllRoad ()
Date: December 02, 2014 05:15PM

Not so fast Wrote:
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> The real question is can Westfield's
> defense play stout, they've given up 47 points in
> the last 5 games. It was 42-0 with 8:52 to go in
> 4th against LB when the 2nd and 3rd teamers went
> in. Should be interesting, guess we'll find out
> soon enough.

Right on. They will need to limit the damage. I'm pretty sure they will be able to put some points on Centreville - no doubt not 42. Can the defense get enough stops is the question. Richbourg obviously no slouch. So whether it's Turner, Boose, Nickens-Yzer, or Richbourg... not an easy group to contain when you have to be looking out for Tutt as well...

BTW, only 7 of those 47 points were against 1st string.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: The facts ()
Date: December 02, 2014 05:51PM

Boose is 100 percent out for this game and the year for that matter.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: not true ()
Date: December 02, 2014 06:11PM

How do you know Boose is 100% out? Not true....

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Truueeeee ()
Date: December 02, 2014 08:51PM

Boose fucked up his MCL, so he is done for the year. Go ask him if you don't believe me. If this team had to lose one of their TOP guys, Boose might be the least shitty option. He only plays offense, and Richbourg has been REALLY good this year in the FB spot. Love will play a bit this week, which has been a big loss on the D side of the ball. A good game, but CVHS by 20.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: December 02, 2014 10:04PM

I think Boose is the last guy they want to lose, Richbourg has played well but is not as physical as Boose. As a matter of fact the only other physical ball carrier is Nickens-Yizer and i don't think he can carry the ball with the cast.

Love may play but he is not 100% so not a big plus, remember the first Westfield game he wasn't much a factor in the second half when he got injured.

Westfield wants the game to be physical, they're not a finesse team, so having the most physical running back, Boose, that favors Westfield.

Don't get me wrong, Centreville is still the better team but i think the gap isn't as great as most believe between these two teams.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: hmmmmmm ()
Date: December 03, 2014 07:01AM

^^^^^ So you'd rather lose Turner, Tutt, Nickens, Skule before Boose?!? I agree Boose is better than Richbourg, but the difference in production between those 2 is way smaller than the other top players and their backups.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Not so fast ()
Date: December 03, 2014 08:17AM

<So you'd rather lose Turner, Tutt, Nickens, Skule before Boose?!? I agree <Boose is better than Richbourg, but the difference in production between <those 2 is way smaller than the other top players and their backups.

Look at the first time these two schools squared off, Boose ran for a ridiculous amount of yardage. He is the one back they have, with the exceptions of Nickens-Yzer who I don't think can carry the ball because of the cast, that can run people over. Westfield's strength on their defense is physicality, they would prefer that type of game than the one this past weekend against a pass heavy offense like LB was.

I just think that while Turner, Tutt, and Richbourg are all very skilled and productive, not having the bullish run style of Boose will have a greater impact than if any of the afore mentioned players were not suited up. I've watched both these teams play, they're both loaded with talent, Centreville of course more so, but the thing that stands out on film with Westfield is they seem to love slugfests. There just is no other back in this area that I've seen who runs like Boose, he's just that much of a beast.

Once again, just my opinion and you don't have to agree, I just don't believe this is going to be a one sided game like most posts predict.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Football junkie ()
Date: July 31, 2015 12:46PM

Steve K2 - We need you.
Too much talk of turf and races in the football thread
What is your take on this season for favorites, overrated, and sleeper teams?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: Steve-K2- ()
Date: July 31, 2015 01:26PM

I have given up football and now run spreads on how many johns get caught with prostitutes (the cops) on 14th Street downtown DC every week....

Thanks for the good times....but predict your own effing games.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: steve k2* ()
Date: August 24, 2018 06:34AM

I'm back! Full disclosure, this week will probably be rough, I have not kept up with the offseason at all - but expect a pretty good product by week 3.

Annandale (-20.0) @ Justice

Briar Woods (-6.0) @ West Potomac
*I saw in the other thread that West Po is the favorite... I know they've had a good run, I just can't see their success remaining sustainable.

Edison @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)

Fairfax (-7.0) @ McLean
*I think the variable is how much Coach Taylor has got installed in his short time in Fairfax. BIG game for both teams, with not too many shots at wins.

Hayfield (-27.0) @ Chantilly
*I suspect Chantilly will be improved this year, that ain't a reach when you are 0-10 though. I heard the Oakton coach was the DC here now? Not sure that's accurate, but anytime you get a HC with a long stint to be a coordinator, that's usually good.

Langley @ South County (-42.0)

Marshall @ Madison (-25.0)
*Madison should be real good this year, but Marshall did go 9-1 with their only regular season loss to Madison last year and return their star QB.

Oakton @ Battlefield (-14.0)

Potomac Falls @ Broad Run (-10.0)
*Still getting used to this Loudoun thing...

Osbourn Park @ TC Williams (-17.0)

Robinson @ Hylton (-7.0)

Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-21.0)

WT Woodson (-6.0) @ South Lakes
*Give me Woodson and the upset here on the road.

West Springfield (-24.0) @ Lee

Westfield (-10.0) @ Lake Braddock
*I am going to try and make it out to this one. Should be the best game on the docket. I believe Westfield hosts South County next week too, kudos for getting prepped fast for the Bulldogs.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: TVYMT ()
Date: August 24, 2018 07:28AM

steve k2* Wrote:
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> I'm back! Full disclosure, this week will
> probably be rough, I have not kept up with the
> offseason at all - but expect a pretty good
> product by week 3.
>
> Annandale (-20.0) @ Justice
Agree here-the new school takes their lumps.
>
> Briar Woods (-6.0) @ West Potomac
> *I saw in the other thread that West Po is the
> favorite... I know they've had a good run, I just
> can't see their success remaining sustainable.
BW has been moving in the wrong direction lately: I see a WP win.
>
> Edison @ Mount Vernon (-21.0)
Edison has been irrelevant for about a decade now; Majors have improved.
>
> Fairfax (-7.0) @ McLean
> *I think the variable is how much Coach Taylor has
> got installed in his short time in Fairfax. BIG
> game for both teams, with not too many shots at
> wins.
Ditto.
>
> Hayfield (-27.0) @ Chantilly
> *I suspect Chantilly will be improved this year,
> that ain't a reach when you are 0-10 though. I
> heard the Oakton coach was the DC here now? Not
> sure that's accurate, but anytime you get a HC
> with a long stint to be a coordinator, that's
> usually good.
Hayfield lost a lot but Chantilly is probably still in shambles. -27 might be a bit high but I agree on this one.
>
> Langley @ South County (-42.0)
I hear Langley is just a bad team, but 42 is a lot of points. Maybe SC (-30)?
>
> Marshall @ Madison (-25.0)
> *Madison should be real good this year, but
> Marshall did go 9-1 with their only regular season
> loss to Madison last year and return their star
> QB.
Marshall's 9-1 last year was very deceiving to those who are not well versed in the strengths of the teams in this area. The MAD-MAR game last year showed that. MAD is just too much and will win this one.
>
> Oakton @ Battlefield (-14.0)
Probably about right on this spread.
>
> Potomac Falls @ Broad Run (-10.0)
> *Still getting used to this Loudoun thing...
BR will cover this one with moderate ease.
>
> Osbourn Park @ TC Williams (-17.0)
OP is another bad program so this spread is probably about right as well.
>
> Robinson @ Hylton (-7.0)
Hylton lost Slade but will still be too much for one dimensional ROBO.
>
> Stonewall Jackson @ Centreville (-21.0)
Yep.
>
> WT Woodson (-6.0) @ South Lakes
> *Give me Woodson and the upset here on the road.
WTW over SL, this year, is no upset. SL will return to mediocrity.
>
> West Springfield (-24.0) @ Lee
WS is allegedly a decent team this year, and facing a week Lee team has a chance to prove it.
>
> Westfield (-10.0) @ Lake Braddock
> *I am going to try and make it out to this one.
> Should be the best game on the docket. I believe
> Westfield hosts South County next week too, kudos
> for getting prepped fast for the Bulldogs.
This is probably about right if you believe the annual LB preseason hype, and add in that WF is still adjusting on their lines.

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ee ()
Date: September 19, 2018 11:48AM

Any lines this week?

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Re: Steve K2's HS Football Lines
Posted by: ee ()
Date: August 28, 2019 10:55AM

Here we go Steve what are your thoughts for week 1?

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