Woodlawn elementary Accredited with Warning 2nd year in a row
Mount Vernon High School Accredited with Warning 2nd year in a row
BaileyFOR ARTS AND SCIENCE Accredited with Warning/ IN SCIENCE **2nd year in a row
cameron Accredited with Warning
Bucknell Accredited with Warning
Lynbrooke Accredited with Warning
west Potomac Accredited with Warning 69% NEEDED 70 TO BE Accredited
Rose Hill Accredited with Warning
Stuart High Accredited with Warning
Herndon Elementary Accredited with Warning
Washington Mill Accredited with Warning
Annandale Elementary Accredited with Warning
Forstedale Accredited with Warning
WHITMAN Accredited with Warning
Mount Vernon Woods ES Accredited with Warning
Hutchison Elementry ***** Accredited with Warning 2nd year in a row

Is "Accredited with Warning 2nd Year in a Row" anything like Double Secret Probation? If so, these schools had better watch out, because Dean Wormer isn't kiddin' around this time.

Let's break this down:

Mount Vernon High School pyramid:
Mount Vernon High School
Whitman Middle School
Woodlawn
Washington Mill
Mount Vernon Woods

Stuart High School pyramid:
Stuart High School
Bailey

Edison High School pyramid:
Cameron
Rose Hill

West Potomac High School pyramid:
West Potomac High School
Bucknell

Lee High School pyramid:
Lynbrooke
Forestdale

Herndon High School pyramid:
Herndon Elementary
Hutchinson Elementary

Annandale High School pyramid:
Annandale Elementary

Too Much Spanish spoken there.

Never Run Out of Ammo

Guns Don't Kill People. People Kill People

Them or You

The two most important days in your life are the day your were born and and the day you find out why

These schools have kids that move in and out of boundaries yearly. Apartment dwellers. They move to Woodbridge when their leases are up. A year or two later, these families return to Fairfax. Some of these families live at homeless shelters and the kids attend school as they can.
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> Woodlawn elementary Accredited with Warning
> 2nd year in a row
> Mount Vernon High School Accredited with Warning
> 2nd year in a row
> BaileyFOR ARTS AND SCIENCE Accredited with
> Warning/ IN SCIENCE **2nd year in a row
> cameron Accredited with Warning
> Bucknell Accredited with Warning
> Lynbrooke Accredited with Warning
> west Potomac Accredited with Warning 69% NEEDED
> 70 TO BE Accredited
> Rose Hill Accredited with Warning
> Stuart High Accredited with Warning
> Herndon Elementary Accredited with Warning
> Washington Mill Accredited with Warning
> Annandale Elementary Accredited with Warning
> Forstedale Accredited with Warning
> WHITMAN Accredited with Warning
> Mount Vernon Woods ES Accredited with Warning
> Hutchison Elementry ***** Accredited with
> Warning 2nd year in a row

But, but, but.... "Fairfax County Public Schools are so great!"

* Do you have a good source for this information? I'd like to pass this along to some people for the LULZ, but would like an official report of these pseudo-accreditations.

* It's hilarious to see a FCPS magnate school not even get accredited. What a scam.

* What does it take to lose accreditation? A school failing accreditation two years in a row? LOL.

* Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you missed denoting a couple more schools for which this is their second year in a row failing to be fully accredited. Bucknell, for one.

Thank goodness we went to all the trouble to administer all these SOL tests so we could find out that the students in these high school pyramids are struggling academically relative to other high school students in the county. Who would have thought?

Are there some sort of standardized tests that could tell us if ice is cold?

This is impossible! Fairfax County schools are all great!

That's what I was told me when we received orders to PCS here.

The threads and posts on FCPS over the last few days are really enlightening.

The 14 schools which are under warning with their accreditation status have some of the highest free & reduced meal student numbers and, worse, the lowest classroom sizes.

FCPS is spending buckets and buckets of money on these schools and it DOES NOT matter.

The schools are still failing even with class sizes of 20, 18 or even 16 students. It doesn't matter how much money or how many additional teachers are put in those schools, it just pumps money to kids at the bottom with no impact.
Attachments:

Yes, I do. Officially will be release by VDOE in September
mtpMk Wrote:
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> * Do you have a good source for this information?
> I'd like to pass this along to some people for the
> LULZ, but would like an official report of these
> pseudo-accreditations.
>
> * It's hilarious to see a FCPS magnate school not
> even get accredited. What a scam.
>
> * What does it take to lose accreditation? A
> school failing accreditation two years in a row?
> LOL.
>
> * Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you
> missed denoting a couple more schools for which
> this is their second year in a row failing to be
> fully accredited. Bucknell, for one.

Thanks for posting that. Let me get this straight. A FCPS magnet school for Arts & Science cannot even receive accreditation for science?

I'm saving and printing this one to keep in my wallet for whenever I hear some brainwashed local make an incredibly stupid statement like, "Why would you send you kids to a private school? Fairfax County schools are excellent."

If I had a dollar for every time some moron expressed something along those lines to me - well, I wouldn't be rich, but I'd have a giant stack of dollars.

Wow my kids are in AAP at one of the top performing Elementary schools and their class sizes are 30+ and 3 of those years were in small trailers. We would love it if their class sizes were 16. SOL's are turning out to be a strain on the schools not a benefit.

Jose can you see Wrote:
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> The threads and posts on FCPS over the last few
> days are really enlightening.
>
> The 14 schools which are under warning with their
> accreditation status have some of the highest free
> & reduced meal student numbers and, worse, the
> lowest classroom sizes.
>
> FCPS is spending buckets and buckets of money on
> these schools and it DOES NOT matter.
>
> The schools are still failing even with class
> sizes of 20, 18 or even 16 students. It doesn't
> matter how much money or how many additional
> teachers are put in those schools, it just pumps
> money to kids at the bottom with no impact.

Dude, your chart is wrong. Annandale High is fully accredited, Hybla Valley got a warning and isn't mentioned, and so on. Check your work next time.

West Potomac HS is fully accredited as well.

Herndon ES is fully accredited.

Two More Wrote:
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> Herndon ES is fully accredited.


That was last school year. This Data for this school for this school year will be officially release in September, I believe. West po Might be fully accredited since they have just 1 SOL Passing test away from being Fully Accredited. Just wait till Officially data is officially release.

Annandale Elementary!!!


Atomizer Wrote:
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> Jose can you see Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The threads and posts on FCPS over the last few
> > days are really enlightening.
> >
> > The 14 schools which are under warning with
> their
> > accreditation status have some of the highest
> free
> > & reduced meal student numbers and, worse, the
> > lowest classroom sizes.
> >
> > FCPS is spending buckets and buckets of money
> on
> > these schools and it DOES NOT matter.
> >
> > The schools are still failing even with class
> > sizes of 20, 18 or even 16 students. It doesn't
> > matter how much money or how many additional
> > teachers are put in those schools, it just
> pumps
> > money to kids at the bottom with no impact.
>
> Dude, your chart is wrong. Annandale High is
> fully accredited, Hybla Valley got a warning and
> isn't mentioned, and so on. Check your work next
> time.

fcps data Wrote:
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> Two More Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Herndon ES is fully accredited.
>
>
> That was last school year. This Data for this
> school for this school year will be officially
> release in September, I believe. West po Might be
> fully accredited since they have just 1 SOL
> Passing test away from being Fully Accredited.
> Just wait till Officially data is officially
> release.

Nope. The data for 2013-14 is already online on the state web site and your information is wrong. Try harder next time.

*

Deltas Wrote:
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> Is "Accredited with Warning 2nd Year in a Row"
> anything like Double Secret Probation? If so,
> these schools had better watch out, because Dean
> Wormer isn't kiddin' around this time.

Students are tested in English, Math, Science and History. If the school fails to get the required percentage of students passing in a year in any one category, it is placed on "accredited with warning" status. If that happens four years in a row accreditation is denied. A school with "Accredited with warning 2nd Year" is half way to getting its accreditation pulled. More information can be found here: http://www.doe.virginia.gov/statistics_reports/accreditation_federal_reports/accreditation/index.shtml

Three More Wrote:
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> Nope. The data for 2013-14 is already online on
> the state web site and your information is wrong.
> Try harder next time.

You have to be careful about this. If you look at the Virginia DOE excel pages for school results throughout the state, it indicates the school's status listing for the 2013-14 school year was based on test results from the 2012-2013 school year. You have to actually go to the excel pages to see this and it is located in block A1: "Virginia Accreditation Status for 2013-2014 based on achievement results from 2012-2013." Another hint would have been that school performance in the excel sheet would not match the above list.

Ommmmmm. Just keep reciting the mantra:



Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Fairfax County does not have an illegal immigrant problem.

Sounds like we need to take in a whole shitload of UACs from the RGV.

Accreditation Status for 2013-2014 is based on results from 2012-2013

The status from the year before does show things getting worse with the coming update if the posts above are right. And SOLs are the bottom of the bucket on assessment.

These are the 2012-13 achievement results from the Virginia Dept. of Education.
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Who cares? These SOL benchmarks and warnings are just bureaucratic nonsense. Do they tell anyone anything about these schools? Wouldn't you know the schools not performing well were not performing well without these tests? And the same with the ones performing well also? In a city like Norfolk, every or almost every school is performing badly? Are they all going to be gutted?

The only impact of SOLs has been a negative one--more boring teaching to the test.

sizedoesntmatter Wrote:
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> Wow my kids are in AAP at one of the top
> performing Elementary schools and their class
> sizes are 30+ and 3 of those years were in small
> trailers. We would love it if their class sizes
> were 16. SOL's are turning out to be a strain on
> the schools not a benefit.


By the time your kids are in high school, they will be part of the huddled masses in overcrowded classrooms because the ESOL classes will be the number one priority. If you think SOLs are the problem, maybe you need to pop in to your local middle or high school to see what is really going on.

ESOL is already the number one priority, look at job listing, look at student/teacher ratios in the different schools.

Math and science are the same in any language, yet these seem to be the areas that schools have trouble with.

Human evolution did not design 14- to 18-year-old humans to sit all day in rooms with 30 other people and fill in small bubbles labeled A, B, C, and D. We are much more dynamic beings. So, of course, there is going to be boredom and stress and unhappiness, and all the other things challenging teenagers today.

Children who live in homes that don't support the use of English, have parents who don't want to assimilate into American society, and whose parents can't realistically afford to live here typically aren't going to do well in school. Hence, the low scores in these schools. It isn't necessarily the fault of the teaching staff. They are fighting a losing battle.

With the rising tide of immigrants from dumb ass parts of the world (obviously not Asia) FCPS are going to have the success rate of Los Angeles Public Schools!
The new motto for FCPS:

Abandon Hope all Ye Who Enter Here...

Here's a fifth grade science SOL, which every student who enrolls within the SOL testing window has to take, even if they don't speak a word of English! I don't agree that science is the same everywhere. Take a look. https://vastatic.testnav.com/vaqc/testnav-7.5.18.30/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=epatEOC162&testnavFormId=AEPCH

Math and science aren't the same in every language. If you've looked at elementary math lately, you may not even recognize the language! And EVERY student in FCPS above third grade during the SOL window, even if they enroll the day before the window closes and just came from another country, has to take the math SOL. If they're in fifth grade, they have had to take the fifth grade science SOL, which has science that many of us never had to learn. Try the test yourself! https://vastatic.testnav.com/vaqc/testnav-7.5.18.30/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=EP5S&testnavFormId=EP5S

Apparently, I'm much dumber than a fifth grader. I clicked on the wrong test! Here's the real fifth grade science SOL released test. https://vastatic.testnav.com/vaqc/testnav-7.5.18.30/epatLogin.jsp?testnavTestId=EP5S&testnavFormId=EP5S

Why are you people continuing to question the manifold benefits of increasing diversity?

"Math and science are the same in any language, yet these seem to be the areas that schools have trouble with."


Math should not be as much of a problem if the student has previous math education. I can see where language could be more of an issue with the science tests.

The problem is that the students have two barriers---English and the lack of previous education. Many did not go to school consistently or went to very substandard schools or both (usually both). Of the two barriers, the lack of previous education is a much, much higher hurdle. Lack of previous education affects everything including the ability to learn the new language. The inability to read or write in the first language then makes it necessary to teach the concept of reading and writing in the second language. This cannot be understated. It takes years to develop these skills (even with native English speakers) and it is much harder to teach them the older the kids are (especially if they are already teenagers). The teens want to develop in many other ways (socially mostly) and be teens. The critical period for learning these skills has passed unless they are willing to really work hard. Most are not. A majority of the families are struggling economically and they need the teen to get a job and contribute income ASAP. Many of these families will not rise educationally until the next generation. Even then, the parents will have limited ability to help their child with school. It takes major resources to get some of them to a literacy level (about 4th or 5th grade reading and 8th grade math). FCPS is probably doing a better job than most areas (like LA) because it has not been as overwhelmed as LA. FCPS has had the money to keep class sizes low. But, as a poster stated, there is nothing magical about FCPS and it could become overwhelmed.

There are two things destroying the quality of education in FCPS:

1) SOL testing régime, which leads to teaching-to-the-test and accomplishes nothing

2) Overwhelming numbers of immigrants

Both of these are political problems. The immigrant kids are not the problem. They just go to school as told. Their parents are not the problem. Like all of us, they want better lives for their families. It's the politicians, like Gerry Connolly, who do nothing to stop-and in fact encourage--this mass movement. The federal government needs to be held accountable here. And SOLs were a bipartisan abortion. Billions spent, with absolutely no result, actually negative results.

Problem number 3 is retaining highly qualified teachers (especially math and science who can more easily get other higher paying jobs) in an atmosphere of high stakes accountability (through the testing) and less prepared immigrant students.

Funny MoCo has more diversity than FFX yet they have mixed it all together to fool everyone. Blair and Richard Montgomery are magnetic schools for the super smart so they offset all the Hispanic kids with low test scores. Too bad FFX hasn't figured that out yet.

DMV Observer Wrote:
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> Funny MoCo has more diversity than FFX yet they
> have mixed it all together to fool everyone.
> Blair and Richard Montgomery are magnetic schools
> for the super smart so they offset all the
> Hispanic kids with low test scores. Too bad FFX
> hasn't figured that out yet.


You can mix the classes of people, play with the numbers and play the blame game for a few more years before you see articles about how one of the best school systems In the country went to the bottom of the barrel. Try teaching those who want and/or can actually learn something and cut your loses with the others. In a school I worked at, they gave those who didn't have, all the supplies they needed for free, yet within a week they came to school with nothing , walked into the classrooms , put their heads down and went to sleep. So what exactly are the teachers who are forced to have these gems in their classes supposed to do?

get rid of the bottom of the barrel ILLEGAL spics. Enforce the laws already on the books, vote out all liberal fucks who celebrate diversity and break the law. make those fuckers pay.

You people are all idiots...Anything that's "Public" is going to suck because anyone is allowed. FCPS suck now, you can send your kids to private school, home school 'em or even let them take classes online. If you can't or don't want to do that and you don't want them going public, then don't have kids.

GET A BRAIN IDIOTS!

Do you have any concept of what would happen without those public schools? Easily 40% of the kids would be largely uneducated because their families would be unable or unwilling to spend enough to send the kids to adequate schools. Most of those home schooled would be almost as bad off, as many of the parents would lack the time or knowledge to educate their kids, or would be more inclined to train the kids based on their own beliefs. Not that many kids or even college students today have the discipline and foundation needed to learn through online classes. We have some excellent private schools in the area plus some mediocre ones. In an environment where cost is likely to play a larger role, which do you think is more likely to grow?

There is little wrong with public schools that couldn't be fixed by simply allowing them to perform their core function without all of the societal add-ons.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Do you have any concept of what would happen
> without those public schools? Easily 40% of the
> kids would be largely uneducated because their
> families would be unable or unwilling to spend
> enough to send the kids to adequate schools. Most
> of those home schooled would be almost as bad off,
> as many of the parents would lack the time or
> knowledge to educate their kids, or would be more
> inclined to train the kids based on their own
> beliefs. Not that many kids or even college
> students today have the discipline and foundation
> needed to learn through online classes. We have
> some excellent private schools in the area plus
> some mediocre ones. In an environment where cost
> is likely to play a larger role, which do you
> think is more likely to grow?
>
> There is little wrong with public schools that
> couldn't be fixed by simply allowing them to
> perform their core function without all of the
> societal add-ons.

Oh cry me a river.

Guess what? The majority of the people in the world are stupid and nothing will change that. They don't need education, they should of never been born in the first place, or they should just do manual labor...You can look at this thread for example, if these people had any intelligence, than they shouldn't be suprised that FCPS public schools suck, because "Public" means anyone can come, so if that's the case, than Illegal children are more than welcome because they are in the area.

If you want to control what your children learn, then you need to get off your lazy, greedy ass and teach them yourself! How in the hell do people have children and then justify sending them off in their formative years to be taught by strangers?! You all get what you deserve for being stupid!

This whole forum needs a Brain!

Vulture-The days of a strong back and a weak brain are mostly over. Just about any job is going to require a certain amount of education to perform. To progress beyond the lowest level will require more. Allowing parental inclination and parental resources to determine who progresses and who doesn't will result in a significant misallocation. There are plenty of lazy and stupid kids whose parents value education and have the resources to provide educational opportunities to their kids. There are also a number of hard working intelligent kids who are born to those indifferent to educating their children, or who lack the resources to provide educational opportunities. At least with a public education option, the latter have a chance of surpassing the former.

Perhaps that is what you are afraid of. Perhaps it is that your kids will go off to school, be exposed to information you don't want them to learn or opinions you don't want them to hear, and they will reject your views. I DON'T WANT TO CONTROL MY KIDS' EDUCATION. I WANT TO INFLUENCE IT. I have plenty of opportunities to teach my kids at night, on the weekends and during the summer. School is when they are exposed to information others possess and to views that I may not accept, so they can make their own informed opinions.

A few private schools in this area will choose kids based on how well the kids actually fit the school's academic program. Far more of them will select based on the parent's willingness or ability to pay. There are even a couple of well respected ones that are known to bring in intellectually weak kids to enhance their sports programs. So much for selectivity, and you are still talking about strangers teaching your kids.

Your turn Scarecrow.

Bill.N. Wrote:
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> Vulture-The days of a strong back and a weak brain
> are mostly over. Just about any job is going to
> require a certain amount of education to perform.
> To progress beyond the lowest level will require
> more. Allowing parental inclination and parental
> resources to determine who progresses and who
> doesn't will result in a significant
> misallocation. There are plenty of lazy and
> stupid kids whose parents value education and have
> the resources to provide educational opportunities
> to their kids. There are also a number of hard
> working intelligent kids who are born to those
> indifferent to educating their children, or who
> lack the resources to provide educational
> opportunities. At least with a public education
> option, the latter have a chance of surpassing the
> former.
>
> Perhaps that is what you are afraid of. Perhaps
> it is that your kids will go off to school, be
> exposed to information you don't want them to
> learn or opinions you don't want them to hear, and
> they will reject your views. I DON'T WANT TO
> CONTROL MY KIDS' EDUCATION. I WANT TO INFLUENCE
> IT. I have plenty of opportunities to teach my
> kids at night, on the weekends and during the
> summer. School is when they are exposed to
> information others possess and to views that I may
> not accept, so they can make their own informed
> opinions.
>
> A few private schools in this area will choose
> kids based on how well the kids actually fit the
> school's academic program. Far more of them will
> select based on the parent's willingness or
> ability to pay. There are even a couple of well
> respected ones that are known to bring in
> intellectually weak kids to enhance their sports
> programs. So much for selectivity, and you are
> still talking about strangers teaching your kids.
>
> Your turn Scarecrow.


Sigh...Here we go...

Your first paragraph: Why in the world do you have this idea that everyone can and should suceed? If it's meant for you to suceed, you will. If it's meant for you to lose, you will. Most people in the world are losers, dude. Do you think that "education" is pushed so hard to help people, when the people who are pushing it know that most people are losers? Education doesn't help anything, most people who look "sucessful" in life are just nigger-rich because they take out loans and have credit cards, they have no real wealth or intelligence.

Second paragraph: If I did have children, I would expose them to everything because that's how you become intelligent, but "school" teaches you mostly bullshit and you know it. Why would you allow your children to learn bullshit? I would show them the bullshit and then explain to them why it's bullshit so they won't have to go through the lesson to learn it on their own, which would free up their time to learn more important things.

Oh, but in order for my method to work, the parents and child actually have to be intelligent! Unlike 98% of people and children in the world. So whatever a dumb ass average adult teaches an average dumb ass average child either in or out of school, they will still be stupid, so why should they even be alive if they are stupid and manual labor isn't needed?

Third paragraph: Uhhhh, "Private" school is still better than "Public" school because they are still exclusive! I don't care what the criteria is, if you are going the lazy ass route to raise your kids, "Private" is a better option, I know strangers will still raise your kids, moron...

I used to want to think that there were more intelligent people in the world, but viewing this forum for the last month or so has really shown me otherwise...

IF YOU HAD CHILDREN SCARECROW?!? You don't have children, and yet you somehow KNOW you will be effective at teaching the little hypotheticals?

Admit it Scarecrow. You are simply another member of that right wing fringe who resents the idea of his tax money being used to educate others. While you argue that not everyone will succeed, your solution is to not let many even have the opportunity to succeed...or even have the opportunity to be less of a failure. You claim that you will teach your kids everything so that they can make their own informed decisions, but you dismiss what others could teach them as bullshit not worth learning. You show all the signs of being a part of that 98%, yet you'd have us believe you are part of the 2%. Maybe the world is better off that your kids are hypothetical.

Yeah, sounds like the problem is the no-speaks.

Throw some more money at them, they are all geniuses waiting to blossom.

What about the chil-dren!

What about the chil-dren!

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why do we care?

I'll bet these schools average scores on the Spanish and Ebonics exams are much higher than other schools in Northern Virginia.

do you have dara on that

advirtiendo a sus estudiantes son todos spics

Which Regions?
Lynbrook is in Region 3



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> Let's break this down:
>
> Mount Vernon High School pyramid:
> Mount Vernon High School
> Whitman Middle School
> Woodlawn
> Washington Mill
> Mount Vernon Woods
>
> Stuart High School pyramid:
> Stuart High School
> Bailey
>
> Edison High School pyramid:
> Cameron
> Rose Hill
>
> West Potomac High School pyramid:
> West Potomac High School
> Bucknell
>
> Lee High School pyramid:
> Lynbrooke
> Forestdale
>
> Herndon High School pyramid:
> Herndon Elementary
> Hutchinson Elementary
>
> Annandale High School pyramid:
> Annandale Elementary

virginia Dept of Education has swooped in to save the day.
Teach to the test.

No best practices.

Dumb, dumb, and dumber

Wow my kids are in a good school; their class sizes are huge 29 or more. We would love it if their class sizes were 16. SOL's are turning out to be a strain on the schools not a benefit.


SOLs need to be revamped to reach kids that live with non English speaking parents. These kids are not aware of many basic vocabulary words.

SOLs are a drain on the school.

fcpsfwivey@fcps.edu

Contact fwivey@fcps.edu and ask her why she didn't postpone this trip (boondoggle) and
keep her Administrators in the classroom the last three days of school!

Budget shortfall? I think not!

Dr. Frances W Ivey is taking a group of Administrators to a conference in Florida on the
last three days of school. FCPS, in a financial crisis, is paying round trip airfare to
Florida, salaries, and all accommodations for this Boon Doggle.

As a parent, I am sickened that the principal of my school will not be at school on the
23, 24, and 25th of June. My kids have to make up the snow days; they will spend two
to three hours locked in a hot stuffy gym, at High School. My fourth grade child has
helped the classroom teacher pack up this week. No learning is going on. Why did they
extend school for our kids, but the Administrators and higher ups get to go to Florida
and party?






data Wrote:
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> Woodlawn elementary Accredited with Warning
> 2nd year in a row
> Mount Vernon High School Accredited with Warning
> 2nd year in a row
> BaileyFOR ARTS AND SCIENCE Accredited with
> Warning/ IN SCIENCE **2nd year in a row
> cameron Accredited with Warning
> Bucknell Accredited with Warning
> Lynbrooke Accredited with Warning
> west Potomac Accredited with Warning 69% NEEDED
> 70 TO BE Accredited
> Rose Hill Accredited with Warning
> Stuart High Accredited with Warning
> Herndon Elementary Accredited with Warning
> Washington Mill Accredited with Warning
> Annandale Elementary Accredited with Warning
> Forstedale Accredited with Warning
> WHITMAN Accredited with Warning
> Mount Vernon Woods ES Accredited with Warning
> Hutchison Elementry ***** Accredited with
> Warning 2nd year in a row

Failing schools Wrote:
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> virginia Dept of Education has swooped in to save
> the day.
> Teach to the test.
>
> No best practices.
>
> Dumb, dumb, and dumber




you are correct

I just took my Algebra 2 SOL and I passed with a 482 and my parents were immigrants from Ghana who could barely speak english but they learned and made a living for themselves, stop with the excuses "oh it's too much diversity" or "immigration is at the highest" I used to be in ESOL but I got out because my English and grammar went well above the normal standards for me to be in ESOL. The ESOL teachers in my school are hard working but the ESOL students in my school are so lazy, they talk to teachers however they want, the girls are more focused on their hair than their books, while the guys clown around in class, most of them don't pass because they don't have the necessary english and grammatical skills to understand the questions since they don't try in class. Mount Vernon HS needs to get their but out of the sand and start working. We are about to reach our 3rd year with the warning and the state isn't playing around, "3rd time's the charm" if we don't get out which I doubt we will, idk what the state will do to the school...

Do you know if a lot of students are pasing the sol this year?


Lord Skriddy Wrote:
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> I just took my Algebra 2 SOL and I passed with a
> 482 and my parents were immigrants from Ghana who
> could barely speak english but they learned and
> made a living for themselves, stop with the
> excuses "oh it's too much diversity" or
> "immigration is at the highest" I used to be in
> ESOL but I got out because my English and grammar
> went well above the normal standards for me to be
> in ESOL. The ESOL teachers in my school are hard
> working but the ESOL students in my school are so
> lazy, they talk to teachers however they want, the
> girls are more focused on their hair than their
> books, while the guys clown around in class, most
> of them don't pass because they don't have the
> necessary english and grammatical skills to
> understand the questions since they don't try in
> class. Mount Vernon HS needs to get their but out
> of the sand and start working. We are about to
> reach our 3rd year with the warning and the state
> isn't playing around, "3rd time's the charm" if we
> don't get out which I doubt we will, idk what the
> state will do to the school...

MVHS' Nardos King hired "consultant" Flip Flippen. Flipped claims "if you have a kid's heart, you have his head" so he has a program on capturing kids' hearts.

For all the good it has done.

But there's more to Flippen (real first name "Menville") than meets the eye. He claims to be a "psychotherapist" with "privileges at psychiatric hospitals" but the truth is that he's a "licensed professional counselor" with an inactive license.

It is not clear that he's ever been an education, he's usually described as a motivational speaker. His recommendations consist of shaking hands with the students when they arrive, and having the students and teachers enter into "social contracts" to create an atmosphere of cooperation.

Good ideas, too bad they have not helped MVHS.

Who cares? Wrote:
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>
> The only impact of SOLs has been a negative
> one--more boring teaching to the test.

I never did get the "well, they are just teaching to the test" argument. If it's a good test, designed around good standards, why would teaching to that test be bad? And if we had no standards, wouldn't a teacher just teach to their own test? Seems like the argument is against teaching to any test but my own.

Billionshortfall Wrote:
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> SOLs need to be revamped to reach kids that live
> with non English speaking parents. These kids are
> not aware of many basic vocabulary words.
>
> SOLs are a drain on the school.

Oh, that's a good idea - a two track system. Like separate but equal?

DMV Observer Wrote:
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> Funny MoCo has more diversity than FFX yet they
> have mixed it all together to fool everyone.
> Blair and Richard Montgomery are magnetic schools
> for the super smart so they offset all the
> Hispanic kids with low test scores. Too bad FFX
> hasn't figured that out yet.


It's coming. What do you think the later HS start times are for? Get ready for the biggest redistricting ever seen in Fairfax. Coming soon after the election.

duhx2 Wrote:
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> Children who live in homes that don't support the
> use of English, have parents who don't want to
> assimilate into American society, and whose
> parents can't realistically afford to live here
> typically aren't going to do well in school.
> Hence, the low scores in these schools. It isn't
> necessarily the fault of the teaching staff. They
> are fighting a losing battle.


When Ted Kennedy co-authored No Child Left Behind, he was thinking of people like you, who want to write off entire classes of students because of ethnicity or socio-economic level. With his co-authors, Kennedy designed NCLB to prevent administrators from papering over sub-classes of students who might disappear in a larger population of data. You can't just let your poor or hispanic or disabled kids do poorly forever, cause it's all tracked that way. He had a brilliant idea with NCLB - shame it's being torn down.

Anyone know if they failed again?

Flip Flippen, Savior of MVHS Wrote:
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> MVHS' Nardos King hired "consultant" Flip Flippen.
> Flipped claims "if you have a kid's heart, you
> have his head" so he has a program on capturing
> kids' hearts.
>
> For all the good it has done.
>
> But there's more to Flippen (real first name
> "Menville") than meets the eye. He claims to be a
> "psychotherapist" with "privileges at psychiatric
> hospitals" but the truth is that he's a "licensed
> professional counselor" with an inactive license.
>
>
> It is not clear that he's ever been an education,
> he's usually described as a motivational speaker.
> His recommendations consist of shaking hands with
> the students when they arrive, and having the
> students and teachers enter into "social
> contracts" to create an atmosphere of
> cooperation.
>
> Good ideas, too bad they have not helped MVHS.

Vulture Wrote:
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> You people are all idiots...Anything that's
> "Public" is going to suck because anyone is
> allowed. FCPS suck now, you can send your kids to
> private school, home school 'em or even let them
> take classes online. If you can't or don't want to
> do that and you don't want them going public, then
> don't have kids.
>
> GET A BRAIN IDIOTS!




You are a very scary evil person..I hope things work out for you as you seem very angry and insane.

Schools need to learn that there are a lot of "consultants" out there hungry for Title 1 money.

Nardos King admitted to having hired one of them, Menville "Flip" Flippen of the Flippen Group. Even though he puts on quite a show, it is all sizzle and no steak.

Flippen was not invited back to MVHS, but the damage was done-he got paid.

This is why the schools have such a large deficit, consultants are hired with no system of checks and balances in place. Karen Garza refuses to cut spending, instead she demands that the Board of Supervisors cut County services or raise taxes.

Unless the electorate uses its vote to get rid of the incumbents, taxes WILL double as there is no other way to sustain the current level of spending.

The budget problems are not caused by the hiring of consultants. To be clear, I don't support the hiring of these consultants as I do not think they improve academic results. But they are not the cause of the budget pressures.

The cause of the budget pressures and the cause of the achievement gap are the same. Our immigration policies have permitted large numbers of cognitively limited (in some cases, very much so) to reside in Fairfax County who require an extreme level of services, both social and academic services.

Results are generally dismal because no matter how much money is spent it is very difficult to educate students with 80-90 IQ's to a level anywhere near competitive with middle class and upper middle class white and asian students, who have much better cognitive abilities, no matter the environment.

The cognitive ability problem is not taught at the nation's education schools, as they labor under the delusion that (even if they ever concede the cognitive ability problem) that social and academic programming can make a difference. By and large it cannot.

I don't think that means we give up on low cognitive ability people. But surely we should acknowledge the enormous costs our immigration policies place on our institutions, and at the same time acknowledge that for the mass numbers of cognitively limited people, the SOL teach to the same level as the kids with 125 IQ's will never work.

how much tax money is collected in these pyramids?
what percent of tax money is spent in these pyramids?
will the people living in other pyramid areas be taxed to pay for these pyramid areas?

why doesn't this renowned school system hire anyone who can run statistics?

tax Wrote:
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> how much tax money is collected in these pyramids?
>
> what percent of tax money is spent in these
> pyramids?
> will the people living in other pyramid areas be
> taxed to pay for these pyramid areas?
>
> why doesn't this renowned school system hire
> anyone who can run statistics?

you are so not going to school me on FCPS bro, i know what's going on with FCPS

this is absurd Wrote:
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> The budget problems are not caused by the hiring
> of consultants. To be clear, I don't support the
> hiring of these consultants as I do not think they
> improve academic results. But they are not the
> cause of the budget pressures.
>
> The cause of the budget pressures and the cause of
> the achievement gap are the same. Our immigration
> policies have permitted large numbers of
> cognitively limited (in some cases, very much so)
> to reside in Fairfax County who require an extreme
> level of services, both social and academic
> services.
>
> Results are generally dismal because no matter how
> much money is spent it is very difficult to
> educate students with 80-90 IQ's to a level
> anywhere near competitive with middle class and
> upper middle class white and asian students, who
> have much better cognitive abilities, no matter
> the environment.
>
> The cognitive ability problem is not taught at the
> nation's education schools, as they labor under
> the delusion that (even if they ever concede the
> cognitive ability problem) that social and
> academic programming can make a difference. By
> and large it cannot.
>
> I don't think that means we give up on low
> cognitive ability people. But surely we should
> acknowledge the enormous costs our immigration
> policies place on our institutions, and at the
> same time acknowledge that for the mass numbers of
> cognitively limited people, the SOL teach to the
> same level as the kids with 125 IQ's will never
> work.


So you're saying The Bell Curve was right?

He's nonresponsive, egotistical, incompetent, wasteful, and self-serving!
Attachments:

google

"some query" -"unrelated ny,ny book titles using popular phrases and trying to copyright them"

ny,ny: the city that thinks they can copyright "have a nice day"

this is absurd Wrote:
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> The budget problems are not caused by the hiring
> of consultants. To be clear, I don't support the
> hiring of these consultants as I do not think they
> improve academic results. But they are not the
> cause of the budget pressures.
>
> The cause of the budget pressures and the cause of
> the achievement gap are the same. Our immigration
> policies have permitted large numbers of
> cognitively limited (in some cases, very much so)
> to reside in Fairfax County who require an extreme
> level of services, both social and academic
> services.
>
> Results are generally dismal because no matter how
> much money is spent it is very difficult to
> educate students with 80-90 IQ's to a level
> anywhere near competitive with middle class and
> upper middle class white and asian students, who
> have much better cognitive abilities, no matter
> the environment.
>
> The cognitive ability problem is not taught at the
> nation's education schools, as they labor under
> the delusion that (even if they ever concede the
> cognitive ability problem) that social and
> academic programming can make a difference. By
> and large it cannot.
>
> I don't think that means we give up on low
> cognitive ability people. But surely we should
> acknowledge the enormous costs our immigration
> policies place on our institutions, and at the
> same time acknowledge that for the mass numbers of
> cognitively limited people, the SOL teach to the
> same level as the kids with 125 IQ's will never
> work.

Allow me to summarize - you can't fix stupid.

"When Ted Kennedy co-authored No Child Left Behind, he was thinking of people like you, who want to write off entire classes of students because of ethnicity or socio-economic level. With his co-authors, Kennedy designed NCLB to prevent administrators from papering over sub-classes of students who might disappear in a larger population of data. You can't just let your poor or hispanic or disabled kids do poorly forever, cause it's all tracked that way. He had a brilliant idea with NCLB - shame it's being torn down."


NCLB was not "torn down". It imploded. It was not brilliant at all. If you think it's a shame that it's gone, you clearly have been living in a cave for the last 15 years. It did zero for those "sub-classes" you are talking about. Zero.

Vote Ryan McElveen OUT OF OFFICE Wrote:
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> He's nonresponsive, egotistical, incompetent,
> wasteful, and self-serving!

When they start using the word "staff" it's their way of washing their hands of any responsibility. "It's not me, it's 'Staff' ". Total lack of ownership or accountability.

State
School
Code
School Name Grade
Level
Title I 2016-17 Accreditation Status Year
Based on Data from July 13, 2015
Last Year Status Comment
1 620 Cameron Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math, Science
2 510 Mount Eagle Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Fully Accredited
3 1360 Annandale Terrace Elementary PK to 05 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science
4 2201 Bryant Alternative High 07 to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Grad Fully Accredited Alternative Acceditation Plan will be submitted
5 870 Crestwood Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Fully Accredited
6 190 Fairfax County Adult High 09 to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Grad Fully Accredited Alternative Acceditation Plan will be submitted
7 1450 Forestdale Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science
8 1250 Herndon Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math
9 1901 Key Center School PK to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Grad Fully Accredited Alternative Acceditation Plan will be submitted
10 1761 Kilmer Center PK to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science, Grad Fully Accredited Alternative Acceditation Plan will be submitted
11 890 Lynbrook Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science
12 420 Mount Vernon High 09 to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math
13 1640 Mount Vernon Woods Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in English
14 2211 Mountain View Alternative High 09 to 12 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in Grad Fully Accredited Alternative Acceditation Plan will be submitted
15 1130 Poe Middle 06 to 08 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in English Fully Accredited
16 1820 Riverside Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Fully Accredited
17 950 Rose Hill Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science
18 1300 Sandburg Middle 07 to 08 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in English Fully Accredited
19 2040 Saratoga Elementary PK to 06 Title I -SchWide Accredited with Warning: Warned in Science Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math
20 1070 Stuart High 09 to 12 Not Title1 Provisionally Accredited - Graduation Rate Accredited with Warning: Warned in Math
21 1550 Whitman Middle 07 to 08 Not Title1 Accredited with Warning: Warned in English Accredited wi

I fully expected to see Dogwood ES in Reston on this list as they are usually in the conversation with the schools mentioned above. I thought they may have lost their accreditation entirely but much to my surprise they were fully accredited for the 14/15 school year despite Title 1 status and a FRM rate of 76.7%. I guess it shows it can be done.

dogwood Wrote:
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> I fully expected to see Dogwood ES in Reston on
> this list as they are usually in the conversation
> with the schools mentioned above. I thought they
> may have lost their accreditation entirely but
> much to my surprise they were fully accredited for
> the 14/15 school year despite Title 1 status and a
> FRM rate of 76.7%. I guess it shows it can be
> done.


Well you're knda right....
The reasons for some schools Like Dogwood not being on the list is cause ESOL students might take the SOL test but they don't count unless they been in America schools for 10 semesters for 5 years.

i Noticed 3 waring for this schools what happens now

Lynbrook Elementary
Mount Vernon High
mOUNT Vernon Woods

Hybla Valley Elementary School FRM rate of 90.9! wow I would give pomps to the Administrators and Teachers

Interesting, they need to do some work yo!