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Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Mark Warner's big box of fail
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Date: July 24, 2014 06:47PM
Premiums could rise by as much as 16.6 percent for some Virginians next year, well above the rate of inflation. Anthem HealthKeepers Inc., a subsidiary of WellPoint and one of the state’s largest insurers, is proposing an average increase of 8.5 percent on individual plans.
Virginia’s health insurers submitted their requests for 2015 premium increases on Wednesday at a meeting with the State Corporation Commission. The insurers cited older, sicker enrollees and regulations and benefits mandated by Obamacare as reasons for raising costs.
Virginia’s health insurers submitted their requests for 2015 premium increases on Wednesday at a meeting with the State Corporation Commission. The insurers cited older, sicker enrollees and regulations and benefits mandated by Obamacare as reasons for raising costs.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer???
()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:20PM
Or course, this is what Obamacare legislated? This is going to be happening all through the year as the employer mandate is implemented.
Shockingly, you can't get something for nothing, no matter how nice the politician's tailored suit looks.
Shockingly, you can't get something for nothing, no matter how nice the politician's tailored suit looks.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
johnny ringo
()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:31PM
No surprise here folks. Just part of the plan.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
639Vx
()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:33PM
Health Insurance costs increasing! Tell me it isnt so! This is all Obama's fault. The Washington Free Beacon couldnt be biased could it?
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Suckers
()
Date: July 24, 2014 07:36PM
“In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so
lulz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o65vMUk5so
lulz
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Who'd've thought
()
Date: July 24, 2014 08:57PM
Gerrymanderer, you have some splainin' to do.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Coservatardzzzzzzz
()
Date: July 24, 2014 09:58PM
You tea baggers are a bunch of liars! Health care is now free for all Americans thanks to Obama.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
charty
()
Date: July 24, 2014 10:48PM
Chart says it all. OP and the Free Beacon are morons. This has nothing to do with ACA it has everything to do with our unregulated health care consumer pricing disclosure. If people could price shop things would improve quickly. The system is set up to fleece us all...
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerry Obamahead
()
Date: July 25, 2014 08:10AM
Pay up all you working suckers! All those freebies for illegals aren't really free. Who do you think is going to pay for them?
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:59AM
This is the result of Republicans not expanding Medicaid.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
65-35
()
Date: July 25, 2014 12:00PM
CNN reports that 35% of Americans now support Obama's impeachment,raising the question, why don't 65% of Americans read the newspaper or watch television news.
According to the poll, support is stronger among independents and Democrats than one might suspect.
According to the poll, support is stronger among independents and Democrats than one might suspect.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
johnny ringo
()
Date: July 25, 2014 12:12PM
639Vx Wrote:
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> Health Insurance costs increasing! Tell me it
> isnt so! This is all Obama's fault. The
> Washington Free Beacon couldnt be biased could
> it?
>
>
The point is not that it's increasing per se, rather Obama promised that the typical American family would see it's annual healthcare costs go DOWN, but something like $2,500. Yet the data shows just he opposite.
He called it "bending the cost curve", but it's bending the wrong way.
-------------------------------------------------------
> Health Insurance costs increasing! Tell me it
> isnt so! This is all Obama's fault. The
> Washington Free Beacon couldnt be biased could
> it?
>
>
The point is not that it's increasing per se, rather Obama promised that the typical American family would see it's annual healthcare costs go DOWN, but something like $2,500. Yet the data shows just he opposite.
He called it "bending the cost curve", but it's bending the wrong way.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gruber
()
Date: July 25, 2014 12:43PM
From Fox News: "Voters got to know Jonathan Gruber in 2012 when the Obama campaign put the health care policy wonk forward to shut down ObamaCare attacks from Republican nominee Mitt Romney. . . . Gruber, an MIT professor who has become a Democratic health care talking head, also gets paid for talking to industry groups about ObamaCare. In one 2012 speech, Gruber talked about the provision in the law that has state governments administer enrollments, including subsidies. “I think what’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits,” said Gruber, a MIT professor, in a speech two years ago. Why is that problematic? Because it directly contradicts what the administration argued in court about a lawsuit that could be “devastating” to ObamaCare because it would end the subsidies paid to enrollees in the states that did not voluntarily comply."
(Obama-ites can respond by attacking Fox, but that does not detract from the dishonesty and illegality and the unconstitutional behavior that this reveals, and which should concern all Americans. By the way, I rely on liberal and conservative media so I can have an informed opinion.)
(Obama-ites can respond by attacking Fox, but that does not detract from the dishonesty and illegality and the unconstitutional behavior that this reveals, and which should concern all Americans. By the way, I rely on liberal and conservative media so I can have an informed opinion.)
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
YHuNU
()
Date: July 25, 2014 12:45PM
johnny ringo Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> 639Vx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Health Insurance costs increasing! Tell me it
> > isnt so! This is all Obama's fault. The
> > Washington Free Beacon couldnt be biased could
> > it?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> The point is not that it's increasing per se,
> rather Obama promised that the typical American
> family would see it's annual healthcare costs go
> DOWN, but something like $2,500. Yet the data
> shows just he opposite.
>
> He called it "bending the cost curve", but it's
> bending the wrong way.
The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing costs to rise. They have been doing that at break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the solution according to critics? Do they present any? To the decade long climbing HC costs? (crickets)
-------------------------------------------------------
> 639Vx Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Health Insurance costs increasing! Tell me it
> > isnt so! This is all Obama's fault. The
> > Washington Free Beacon couldnt be biased could
> > it?
> >
> >
>
>
>
> The point is not that it's increasing per se,
> rather Obama promised that the typical American
> family would see it's annual healthcare costs go
> DOWN, but something like $2,500. Yet the data
> shows just he opposite.
>
> He called it "bending the cost curve", but it's
> bending the wrong way.
The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing costs to rise. They have been doing that at break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the solution according to critics? Do they present any? To the decade long climbing HC costs? (crickets)
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
the claim
()
Date: July 25, 2014 12:46PM
The president claimed that ACA would save $2500/year. Wrong.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
BH Obama
()
Date: July 25, 2014 01:07PM
If you like your doctor, you can keep you doctor.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Premise of the Thread
()
Date: July 25, 2014 04:19PM
YHuNU (Who Knew?) wrote:
"The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing costs to rise. They have been doing that at break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the solution according to critics? Do they present any? To the decade long climbing HC costs? (crickets)"
Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some involving technology and medical advances. For example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I believe). We all would want everyone to have it, but that's expensive, especially when many who need it are IV drug users who are not contributing much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under any system, unless there's rationing.
The true premise of the thread, though, is that ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very obvious from the beginning that it was a house cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was passed with deceit under the direction of a charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug all the leaks, which are opening up all across the system. This is horrendous for our country . . . and perfectly predictable.
"The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing costs to rise. They have been doing that at break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the solution according to critics? Do they present any? To the decade long climbing HC costs? (crickets)"
Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some involving technology and medical advances. For example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I believe). We all would want everyone to have it, but that's expensive, especially when many who need it are IV drug users who are not contributing much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under any system, unless there's rationing.
The true premise of the thread, though, is that ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very obvious from the beginning that it was a house cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was passed with deceit under the direction of a charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug all the leaks, which are opening up all across the system. This is horrendous for our country . . . and perfectly predictable.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
CPvVY
()
Date: July 25, 2014 05:33PM
Premise of the Thread Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> YHuNU (Who Knew?) wrote:
>
> "The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing
> costs to rise. They have been doing that at
> break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the
> article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the
> solution according to critics? Do they present
> any? To the decade long climbing HC costs?
> (crickets)"
>
> Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some
> involving technology and medical advances. For
> example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I
> believe). We all would want everyone to have it,
> but that's expensive, especially when many who
> need it are IV drug users who are not contributing
> much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under
> any system, unless there's rationing.
>
> The true premise of the thread, though, is that
> ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very
> obvious from the beginning that it was a house
> cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was
> passed with deceit under the direction of a
> charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it
> is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug
> all the leaks, which are opening up all across the
> system. This is horrendous for our country . . .
> and perfectly predictable.
Wow great argument - no facts.
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> YHuNU (Who Knew?) wrote:
>
> "The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing
> costs to rise. They have been doing that at
> break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the
> article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the
> solution according to critics? Do they present
> any? To the decade long climbing HC costs?
> (crickets)"
>
> Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some
> involving technology and medical advances. For
> example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I
> believe). We all would want everyone to have it,
> but that's expensive, especially when many who
> need it are IV drug users who are not contributing
> much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under
> any system, unless there's rationing.
>
> The true premise of the thread, though, is that
> ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very
> obvious from the beginning that it was a house
> cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was
> passed with deceit under the direction of a
> charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it
> is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug
> all the leaks, which are opening up all across the
> system. This is horrendous for our country . . .
> and perfectly predictable.
Wow great argument - no facts.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Nothing new
()
Date: July 25, 2014 06:15PM
Premise of the Thread Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> YHuNU (Who Knew?) wrote:
>
> "The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing
> costs to rise. They have been doing that at
> break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the
> article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the
> solution according to critics? Do they present
> any? To the decade long climbing HC costs?
> (crickets)"
>
> Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some
> involving technology and medical advances. For
> example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I
> believe). We all would want everyone to have it,
> but that's expensive, especially when many who
> need it are IV drug users who are not contributing
> much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under
> any system, unless there's rationing.
>
> The true premise of the thread, though, is that
> ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very
> obvious from the beginning that it was a house
> cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was
> passed with deceit under the direction of a
> charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it
> is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug
> all the leaks, which are opening up all across the
> system. This is horrendous for our country . . .
> and perfectly predictable.
Exactly. If you get insurance from work and have a good company, they've been taking the hits for you. From the management side, I've seen increases like this for a decade, just like the table showed. ACA did not start it.
Don't tell the morons though. The government does not own the health insurers, they can't make them lower rates. Everyone was so afraid of single-payer, so now we have this POS law that won't fix anything.
-------------------------------------------------------
> YHuNU (Who Knew?) wrote:
>
> "The premise of the thread is that ACA is causing
> costs to rise. They have been doing that at
> break-neck speed for a decade. The premise of the
> article and thread is bogus. BTW what is the
> solution according to critics? Do they present
> any? To the decade long climbing HC costs?
> (crickets)"
>
> Healthcare costs are rising for many reasons, some
> involving technology and medical advances. For
> example, a new Hep C treatment costs $84,000 (I
> believe). We all would want everyone to have it,
> but that's expensive, especially when many who
> need it are IV drug users who are not contributing
> much into the system. Costs will go up a lot under
> any system, unless there's rationing.
>
> The true premise of the thread, though, is that
> ACA is costing 100s of billions when it was very
> obvious from the beginning that it was a house
> cards built on a foundation of wet noodles. It was
> passed with deceit under the direction of a
> charlatan. Even that charlatan understands that it
> is a failure, and is desperately trying to plug
> all the leaks, which are opening up all across the
> system. This is horrendous for our country . . .
> and perfectly predictable.
Exactly. If you get insurance from work and have a good company, they've been taking the hits for you. From the management side, I've seen increases like this for a decade, just like the table showed. ACA did not start it.
Don't tell the morons though. The government does not own the health insurers, they can't make them lower rates. Everyone was so afraid of single-payer, so now we have this POS law that won't fix anything.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
back to reality
()
Date: July 25, 2014 06:59PM
"Exactly. If you get insurance from work and have a good company, they've been taking the hits for you. From the management side, I've seen increases like this for a decade, just like the table showed. ACA did not start it."
Then, please explain why individual policies purchased independently have gone up so much. Oh, I know......these policies are so much better. Now 50 year old men have birth control coverage! And, they also have pediatric vision coverage. Give me a break.
Then, please explain why individual policies purchased independently have gone up so much. Oh, I know......these policies are so much better. Now 50 year old men have birth control coverage! And, they also have pediatric vision coverage. Give me a break.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
KhNLK
()
Date: July 25, 2014 07:27PM
back to reality Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Exactly. If you get insurance from work and have
> a good company, they've been taking the hits for
> you. From the management side, I've seen increases
> like this for a decade, just like the table
> showed. ACA did not start it."
>
> Then, please explain why individual policies
> purchased independently have gone up so much. Oh,
> I know......these policies are so much better.
> Now 50 year old men have birth control coverage!
> And, they also have pediatric vision coverage.
> Give me a break.
Again, they are going up as they have been for a decade not from ACA. Its not the govt that is fleecing us folks...
-------------------------------------------------------
> "Exactly. If you get insurance from work and have
> a good company, they've been taking the hits for
> you. From the management side, I've seen increases
> like this for a decade, just like the table
> showed. ACA did not start it."
>
> Then, please explain why individual policies
> purchased independently have gone up so much. Oh,
> I know......these policies are so much better.
> Now 50 year old men have birth control coverage!
> And, they also have pediatric vision coverage.
> Give me a break.
Again, they are going up as they have been for a decade not from ACA. Its not the govt that is fleecing us folks...
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:35PM
Virginia Republicans played national politics against a president that cant run for re-election. Now our budget is worse off, our rural hospitals are broke, our poor lack basic health care and everyones premiums will go up as a result.
Republicans will harm anyone and anything for their politics blind dumb and stupid obstruction and destruction.
Republicans will harm anyone and anything for their politics blind dumb and stupid obstruction and destruction.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:38PM
I dont want to hear a single Republican bitch like the little bitches they are. This is the system you want. You have no solutions. You have no contributions.
So go die, nobody cares just like you dont care.
So go die, nobody cares just like you dont care.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Hey Kenneth....
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:46PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Virginia Republicans played national politics
> against a president that cant run for re-election.
> Now our budget is worse off, our rural hospitals
> are broke, our poor lack basic health care and
> everyones premiums will go up as a result.
>
> Republicans will harm anyone and anything for
> their politics blind dumb and stupid obstruction
> and destruction.
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
-------------------------------------------------------
> Virginia Republicans played national politics
> against a president that cant run for re-election.
> Now our budget is worse off, our rural hospitals
> are broke, our poor lack basic health care and
> everyones premiums will go up as a result.
>
> Republicans will harm anyone and anything for
> their politics blind dumb and stupid obstruction
> and destruction.
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
oh Gerry
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:54PM
Gerry,
Why do you think we have a GOP House? could it be because they passed the ACA against the will of their constiuents?
Look at the mess on the border. Who caused this mess? Here's a hint--initials are BHO.
Who thought Russian threat was so "1980's"?
Who drew a red line in Syria and then ignored it?
Who lied about a video in Benghazi?
Who said there is not a "smidgen" of corruption at IRS--contrary to evidence and before investigations?
Who leaked the Pakistani doctor who helped CIA?
Who released 5 terrorists for a deserter?
Who called terrorism at Ft. HOod "workplace violence"?
Who lied about "keeping your plan"?
Which administration ran "fast and Furious"?
Who neglected to negotiate SOFA in Iraq which resulted in ISIS?
Who got rid of nuclear shield in Europe which encouraged Putin's actions?
etc.etc.etc.
Why do you think we have a GOP House? could it be because they passed the ACA against the will of their constiuents?
Look at the mess on the border. Who caused this mess? Here's a hint--initials are BHO.
Who thought Russian threat was so "1980's"?
Who drew a red line in Syria and then ignored it?
Who lied about a video in Benghazi?
Who said there is not a "smidgen" of corruption at IRS--contrary to evidence and before investigations?
Who leaked the Pakistani doctor who helped CIA?
Who released 5 terrorists for a deserter?
Who called terrorism at Ft. HOod "workplace violence"?
Who lied about "keeping your plan"?
Which administration ran "fast and Furious"?
Who neglected to negotiate SOFA in Iraq which resulted in ISIS?
Who got rid of nuclear shield in Europe which encouraged Putin's actions?
etc.etc.etc.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Tort Reform Huh?
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:57PM
No Way Jose sez Obama and the Dems. Sue every Dr for the slightest lil thing. Hit the JACKPOT BABY!.. Hey Its OK sez Obama It dont raise no bodys Ins Up..Hell No It dont baby..
John Hopkins pays out 190 million and the camera pussy spy Dr. responsible commited suicide but J.H gets the shaft and the bill. Bullshit.
John Hopkins pays out 190 million and the camera pussy spy Dr. responsible commited suicide but J.H gets the shaft and the bill. Bullshit.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:57PM
The Democrats won the house by 2 millions votes dipshit. You cant claim a mandate when you dont win a majority of the votes.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:58PM
You break it you own it. You Repukes broke Obama Care in Virginia.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 10:00PM
Whats your solutions? You have none, you just know how to break shit and say it wasnt you like misbehaved little children.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Hshdr
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:15PM
And your solution seems to be: whatever a democrat says is correct and we should blindly follow it.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:17PM
Democrats, no matter what they got, at least they got something. Thats a lot more than you can ever claim to have.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:20PM
Reminds me of that Sienfeld joke, a show about nothing. Although even that was actually something.
The Republican Party really is a party with nothing.
The Republican Party really is a party with nothing.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Drakee
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:27PM
The left needs to get back in touch with reality. Health care is not a right. It requires the talent, time and energy of individuals with highly developed skill sets.
Say you go to school well beyond the typical four years, almost certainly taking out tens of thousands of dollars or more in student loans - whether you're a doctor, nurse, chemist, researcher or pharmacist. Now, let's say that suddenly your serviceable skills are no longer viewed in our society as something that are deserving of considerable amounts of money. In other words, everybody is entitled to what you provide without any remuneration to you.
How does that make you feel?
Say you go to school well beyond the typical four years, almost certainly taking out tens of thousands of dollars or more in student loans - whether you're a doctor, nurse, chemist, researcher or pharmacist. Now, let's say that suddenly your serviceable skills are no longer viewed in our society as something that are deserving of considerable amounts of money. In other words, everybody is entitled to what you provide without any remuneration to you.
How does that make you feel?
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Obama-tastrophe
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:37PM
Gerrymanderer2 Wrote:
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> Reminds me of that Sienfeld joke, a show about
> nothing. Although even that was actually
> something.
>
> The Republican Party really is a party with
> nothing.
Gerry, even Obama knows he's not up to the job. I mean he was a community organizer and adjunct professor, and voters put him in the White House. I'm guessing he would resign tomorrow if he could do it gracefully. He seems like he just wants to get on the golf course and talk to those who are wistful for what might have been.
Face the facts. Re-read your defense. There is no defense. Barack Obama is a catastrophe in the White House. Maybe his intentions were good, but his ideas have zero connection with commonsense or an understanding of how things work. Obamacare? Unmitigated failure. Immigration policy? Unmitigated failure. Foreign policy? He has stirred disorder everywhere. Transparent government? The opposite. Justice? No, a mockery of it.
Most importantly, all of us, including you and I, are much better off if he does not continue his attack on the rule of law and the Constitution. I don't want to live under a liberal president who feels like a precedent has been set for an imperial presidency and you don't want to live under a conservative president who feels the same (neither do I).
-------------------------------------------------------
> Reminds me of that Sienfeld joke, a show about
> nothing. Although even that was actually
> something.
>
> The Republican Party really is a party with
> nothing.
Gerry, even Obama knows he's not up to the job. I mean he was a community organizer and adjunct professor, and voters put him in the White House. I'm guessing he would resign tomorrow if he could do it gracefully. He seems like he just wants to get on the golf course and talk to those who are wistful for what might have been.
Face the facts. Re-read your defense. There is no defense. Barack Obama is a catastrophe in the White House. Maybe his intentions were good, but his ideas have zero connection with commonsense or an understanding of how things work. Obamacare? Unmitigated failure. Immigration policy? Unmitigated failure. Foreign policy? He has stirred disorder everywhere. Transparent government? The opposite. Justice? No, a mockery of it.
Most importantly, all of us, including you and I, are much better off if he does not continue his attack on the rule of law and the Constitution. I don't want to live under a liberal president who feels like a precedent has been set for an imperial presidency and you don't want to live under a conservative president who feels the same (neither do I).
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:42PM
You know I was watching the Netherlands the other day on TV when they were bringing their fellow citizens home. People standing on bridges crying and paying their respect. Cars on the other side of the road stopping to pay their respect. The most prestine countryside one can imagine in the background. It was so rich it was bright lime green in color.
I thought to myself, what a compassionate united country that is. You can feel the love amongst the people and national pride by simply watching them.
What happened to America I asked myself. I refuse to give up on this country. I believe a better future awaits us.
I thought to myself, what a compassionate united country that is. You can feel the love amongst the people and national pride by simply watching them.
What happened to America I asked myself. I refuse to give up on this country. I believe a better future awaits us.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Dead Man Walking
()
Date: July 25, 2014 11:46PM
Nah, it's over dude, we just don't know it yet.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
gee gerry
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Date: July 26, 2014 08:05AM
Gerry,
You must not have watched the funeral procession of Ronald Reagan. People standing on overpasses just to get a glimpse. It hasn't been that long.
Of course, you would not have noticed.......
The deaths of the Dutch in that crash were comparable in population to our deaths in 9/11. Remember how people rallied for that
And, while you are talking about the pristine Dutch countryside--and, I've been there, and it is lovely--there is also the Amsterdam red light district where women sit in windows advertising their bodies. IMHO, that is not so pristine. Go into one of the bookstores in that district and see the pictures of child porn on magazine covers. Sickening. Pristine? Don't think so.
You must not have watched the funeral procession of Ronald Reagan. People standing on overpasses just to get a glimpse. It hasn't been that long.
Of course, you would not have noticed.......
The deaths of the Dutch in that crash were comparable in population to our deaths in 9/11. Remember how people rallied for that
And, while you are talking about the pristine Dutch countryside--and, I've been there, and it is lovely--there is also the Amsterdam red light district where women sit in windows advertising their bodies. IMHO, that is not so pristine. Go into one of the bookstores in that district and see the pictures of child porn on magazine covers. Sickening. Pristine? Don't think so.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
Gerrymanderer2
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Date: July 26, 2014 09:11AM
At least they all have health care. And they see it as a basic responsibility of the government. They're not alone, all other western nations have the same vision including our northern neighbor.
When you have a nation that doesn't care whether their its poor live or die, that's a nation that lacks a moral compass.
When you have a nation that doesn't care whether their its poor live or die, that's a nation that lacks a moral compass.
Re: Major Virginia insurance provider proposes 8.5 percent increase on individual plans
Posted by:
"health care" =/= "insurance"
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Date: July 26, 2014 10:58AM
jewh8ter2, still stuck on stupid.