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Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: What Now? ()
Date: July 21, 2014 08:46AM

Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?

Some political leaders oppose support for unattended children sent over the border with Mexico. What's the right response to this crisis?
http://chantilly.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/housing-illegal-children-if-not-here-then-where73428

The federal government is struggling to provide aid for children sent unattended over the Mexican border and officials are seeking aid from state governments and local nonprofits. But some politicians are staunchly against any support.

In Virginia this week, the chairman of the state House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety raised concern that gangs, drug lords and possibly even terrorists would take advantage of any effort to house the illegal children.

Rep. Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., sent a letter this week to the Center for Disease Control, worried about a health epidemic as these children enter the country without standard vaccines.


Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, a Democrat, was put on the spot this week regarding temporary housing for the children, after reports that he rejected a pitch from the White House to bring some of the children to an Army Reserve Center in a conservative part of the state.

Some politicians are learning these children have already been housed in their community for some time. In Prince William, Va., county leaders are seeking information about a local nonprofit program that temporarily houses unattended children who cross the border illegally. This kind of program can already be found in communities across the country.

Should state and local political leaders interfere with federal and nonprofit efforts to house illegal children? Where should they find temporary housing for these children?

The Department of Health and Human Services’ Administration for Children and Families is overseeing the care and housing for immigrant minors at a recruit housing and training facility on Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland, Texas. Air Force News Service
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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: 2/3 have gotten asylum. ()
Date: July 21, 2014 09:29AM

This company has been trying to keep track of where all the kids are going and it's pretty hush hush everywhere. The govt is telling people to keep their mouths shut.

Reports are saying 2/3 have already had their paperwork approved for asylum.

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/not-my-backyard-feds-efforts-relocate-illegal-aliens-border

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Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia
Posted by: More worries ()
Date: July 21, 2014 09:41AM

Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia

Del. Scott Lingamfelter hoping to prevent any state-supported humanitarian effort to house undocumented, unaccompanied children.
http://woodbridge-va.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/delegate-gangs-drugs-terror-elements-can-follow-illegal-kids-to-virginia51315

The debate over what, if anything, Virginia should do to address a humanitarian crises on the U.S. border with Mexico has reached a worst-case scenario with fears of terrorism.

Since late 2013, unaccompanied children have been flooding over the southern border, stressing the resources of the federal government and nonprofit partners. The issue now is at the center of a stalled debate over immigration reform in Washington, D.C., and has raised tensions in communities across the country.

Federal agencies handling the undocumented children have been reaching out to governors across the country regarding potential temporary housing.


In a letter to Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Del. Scott Lingamfelter, R-Woodbridge and chair of the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety, warned of drug cartels and "terror elements" taking advantage of any kindness offered to these children.

More: County Wants Answers on Refugee Children Sheltered in Region

"While we are both concerned about the safety of the children who have entered the United States illegally, we must also be concerned with the possibility that criminal gangs and the drug cartels will use the crisis to exploit and enlarge their unlawful activities throughout the nation," Lingamfelter wrote. "Moreover, terror elements could potentially use the confusion to enter U.S. territory."


The delegate asked the governor to make no effort to directly or indirectly allow these children to enter the state.

One Bristow nonprofit, Youth for Tomorrow, is already providing emergency shelter for undocumented minors. The program is operated through an agreement with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

An HHS spokesperson would not comment on the number of undocumented children in Northern Virginia, but told The Washington Post that, “HHS pays for and provides all services for the children through its network of grantees."

The spokesperson also noted that children spend less than 35 days on average at the shelters and do not integrate into the local community.

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Re: Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia
Posted by: KDuYH ()
Date: July 21, 2014 09:46AM

More worries Wrote:
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> Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can
> Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia
>
> Del. Scott Lingamfelter hoping to prevent any
> state-supported humanitarian effort to house
> undocumented, unaccompanied children.
> http://woodbridge-va.patch.com/groups/police-and-f
> ire/p/delegate-gangs-drugs-terror-elements-can-fol
> low-illegal-kids-to-virginia51315
>
> The debate over what, if anything, Virginia should
> do to address a humanitarian crises on the U.S.
> border with Mexico has reached a worst-case
> scenario with fears of terrorism.
>
> Since late 2013, unaccompanied children have been
> flooding over the southern border, stressing the
> resources of the federal government and nonprofit
> partners. The issue now is at the center of a
> stalled debate over immigration reform in
> Washington, D.C., and has raised tensions in
> communities across the country.
>
> Federal agencies handling the undocumented
> children have been reaching out to governors
> across the country regarding potential temporary
> housing.
>
>
> In a letter to Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Del. Scott
> Lingamfelter, R-Woodbridge and chair of the House
> Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety,
> warned of drug cartels and "terror elements"
> taking advantage of any kindness offered to these
> children.
>
> More: County Wants Answers on Refugee Children
> Sheltered in Region
>
> "While we are both concerned about the safety of
> the children who have entered the United States
> illegally, we must also be concerned with the
> possibility that criminal gangs and the drug
> cartels will use the crisis to exploit and enlarge
> their unlawful activities throughout the nation,"
> Lingamfelter wrote. "Moreover, terror elements
> could potentially use the confusion to enter U.S.
> territory."
>
>
> The delegate asked the governor to make no effort
> to directly or indirectly allow these children to
> enter the state.
>
> One Bristow nonprofit, Youth for Tomorrow, is
> already providing emergency shelter for
> undocumented minors. The program is operated
> through an agreement with the U.S. Department of
> Health and Human Services.
>
> An HHS spokesperson would not comment on the
> number of undocumented children in Northern
> Virginia, but told The Washington Post that,
> “HHS pays for and provides all services for the
> children through its network of grantees."
>
> The spokesperson also noted that children spend
> less than 35 days on average at the shelters and
> do not integrate into the local community.


I call bull****, Bill. If those countries are so terrible, why aren't the parents fleeing with their children rather than handing their daughters birth control pills in case they get raped on the way? Why aren't the parents giving their children up for adoption to American, Canadian, or European couples? This is not about being refugees. These kids are being used as anchors in order to facilitate the transfer of entire family groups who plan on resettling permanently in America

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: WHAT!?!?!?!??!?!?!? ()
Date: July 21, 2014 09:50AM

“HHS pays for and provides all services for the children through its network of grantees." Really? More than half of the children in my kids school speak a language other than English and two-thirds of the kids get free lunch and breakfast provided. HHS gets their money from tax payers, ergo we are all paying ALREADY. The best way to help is to reinforce the border, stop illegal immigration, change the laws to stop chain immigration and anchor babies by banning those caught here illegally from EVER obtaining citizenship. Then, we need to institute a comprehensive program to establish economic opportunities within the countries from which the people are fleeing. Across our country natural resources are being stretched to the limits. Some areas are running out of water. Every day hundreds of acres of farming are lost to development and landfills are quickly reaching capacity. How long will our environment be able to sustain a growing population that is outpacing the environments capacity to provide water, feed, shelter, and absorb their waste? Is it not better to export our knowledge to their home countries and work with them to solve the original challenges they are facing?

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: EtmbX ()
Date: July 21, 2014 10:02AM

Bill, 1) See how you feel when your kid's high school becomes infested with violent drug dealers and gang members - such as MS13. 2) Our country is $17,000,000,000,000 in debt! We can't stand to continue 'helping' everyone out. Our country is on a path to financial destruction. WE have to start fixing that problem now!! 3) If you feel so strongly, I suggest you open a room or two within your home and invite a few of the illegals to come live with you. That would show your commitment to helping them, and is a much better solution than you volunteering to spend my tax money.

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D.C., suburbs want to know extent of local influx of Central American children
Posted by: More Info ()
Date: July 21, 2014 10:05AM

D.C., suburbs want to know extent of local influx of Central American children
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pr-william-wants-answers-about-central-american-children-being-brought-to-county/2014/07/16/c86eb41c-0cf6-11e4-b8e5-d0de80767fc2_story.html?hpid=z3

Washington-area officials are bracing for the arrival — and potentially extended stay — of children who crossed the United States-Mexico border from Central America and are seeking asylum. And some are demanding to know just how many children are already here.

Although specific numbers are unavailable about the number of children who have been brought to the area as the crisis along the border has escalated in recent months, local groups say the surge is noticeable. Federal immigration authorities say there are 5,723 cases pending in local immigration courts that involve juveniles from Central American countries facing deportation.

The Obama administration says it is pushing to send those children home as quickly as possible but has allowed many of them to temporarily reunite with parents or legal guardians in the United States, while others without local family ties are being housed at military facilities and centers operated by nonprofit groups.

That has led to an influx of migrant children to the Washington area, where immigrants from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras are the second-largest Central American community in the country.

Roxana Olivas, director of Latino affairs in D.C. Mayor Vincent C. Gray’s administration, said a city school program geared toward Central American children has lately had 30 new students a month.

“We’ve been going at this for a while,” Olivas said. “We just don’t know the extent of it yet.”

With many of those children seeking asylum — which could take months if not years to be resolved — officials in the suburbs are wondering how their communities will be affected and whether additional services will be needed.
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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: where is the data? ()
Date: July 21, 2014 10:09AM

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/detention-reform/pdf/parental_interest_directive_signed.pdf

ICE does not turn back parents who have children with them. I suspect that most of the "unaccompanied minors" are teenage boys. However, I have seen no statistics on this. A lot of the pictures I have seen indicate that mothers are accompanying their children. Because of this ICE policy, the families get to stay and not be turned back--at least not until after court, etc. Do you really believe parents are sending their toddlers and babies unaccompanied?

It is time for the administration to do something--and start by telling the truth.

My suspicions: lots of families are coming in.
The unaccompanied minors are 13 and up--mostly boys. I also suspect that a lot of these "boys" are over 20.

The government could start by rescinding this policy that was implemented last summer. Could this explain why there are so many more coming?

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: plane_for_rent ()
Date: July 21, 2014 10:10AM

I have a brilliant suggestion. House them back in their own country. They are ILLEGALLY here. It's cheaper to provide an airline ticket home.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: U9VDC ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:18PM

america cannot sustain being the "baby dumping ground" of a world fucking freely who don't pay child support

simple fact: can't

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: HKnMJ ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:24PM

there are many illegals with high pay gov jobs in the usa

illegals used to say, on low paying jobs, "i'm sending money home"

today they are in cush jobs even though illegal (or green bullova, same thing) and driving luxury cars

aka: they can afford it. they are calling you the devil while they are doing 3x worse than denizen americans had been doing because obama is letting them , because they hate whites

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: jydbt ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:50PM

where is the data? Wrote:
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>
> My suspicions: lots of families are coming in.
> The unaccompanied minors are 13 and up--mostly
> boys. I also suspect that a lot of these "boys"
> are over 20.
>
> The government could start by rescinding this
> policy that was implemented last summer. Could
> this explain why there are so many more coming?

They are. See the dump that was done, in typical fashion when they don't want much news attention, last Friday. That together with other data released to date says that most of the unaccompanied 'children' are 14-17 year old males and older. The bulk of the rest are moving as families or at least with adults. Also, they overwhelmingly cite a perceived policy of granting amnesty as the reason for coming.

The 'poor young children' angle is a sympathy play by advocates. The reality is that they are a small minority and most of them are joining family members already here.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: La Raza ()
Date: July 21, 2014 12:51PM

plane_for_rent Wrote:
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> I have a brilliant suggestion. House them back in
> their own country. They are ILLEGALLY here. It's
> cheaper to provide an airline ticket home.


We don't say "illegal" anymore. That's racist. We say "undocumented". That way they don't feel the sting of the blame. It was someone else's fault that they were undocumented, not their own.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Potential consquences ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:21PM

While $$$ is critical; that's NOT the sole effect of the Invasion.

USA-HIV knows no borders
http://www.alipac.us/f12/hiv-knows-no-borders-305983/

USA-BP confirms 2nd IA child w/ Swine-Flu
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/30/Border-Patrol-Confirm...

PA-IA deported a yr ago rapes doctor @Philadelphia
http://www.examiner.com/article/illegal-alien-deported-a-year-ago-rapes-...

USA- Doctor/Risk of diseases brought by IA’s not being taken seriously (video)
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/06/27/Doctor-Risk-of-Disea...

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: More places in VA - Alexandria ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:25PM

Other places in VA...

Northern Virginia Juvenile Detention (IMPLEMENTED)
200 S Whiting St
Alexandria, VA 22304

This location was confirmed by a source to NumbersUSA. Please email for additional information: moubre@numbersusa.com

LINK: https://www.alexandriava.gov/dchs/childrenfamily/default.aspx?id=50666

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Shenandoah Valley Juvenile Center (IMPLEMENTED)
This location was confirmed by a source to NumbersUSA. Please email for additional information: moubre@numbersusa.com

LINK: http://www.svjc.org/

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DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano Dodges Congress' Questions Regarding Executive Amnesty
Posted by: Failing Leadership ()
Date: July 21, 2014 01:39PM

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano Dodges Congress' Questions Regarding Executive Amnesty
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/news/dhs-secretary-janet-napolitano-dodges-congress-questions-regarding-executive-am


On July 19, 2012, the House Judiciary Committee asked DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano about the administration's DREAM Act executive amnesty. Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-Calif.), who chairs the Immigration Subcommittee, asked Sec. Napolitano how many illegal aliens would receive work permits while millions of Americans were out of work. He had to ask the questions four times before getting an answer. Judiciary Chairman Lamar Smith asked Sec. Napolitano if students who qualify would have to provide a certified school transcript. She said, they're "still working on the details."

Go here to watch the video:
https://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/news/dhs-secretary-janet-napolitano-dodges-congress-questions-regarding-executive-am

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Report: Gov. Perry to send National Guard Troops to Texas Border
Posted by: It's Getting Real Now ()
Date: July 22, 2014 07:33AM

Report: Gov. Perry to send National Guard Troops to Texas Border
https://www.numbersusa.com/news/report-gov-perry-send-national-guard-troops-texas-border

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R-Texas) is taking matters into his own hands and is ordering 1,000 National Guard troops to the Texas border to help stop the illegal-alien border surge. Gov. Perry is expected to make a formal announcement later today, but by making the move before the Obama Administration takes action, Gov. Perry will oversee the Guard's operation since he's the one who deployed the troops.

Several Members of Congress, including Gov. Perry, have been calling for the deployment of National Guard troops. A spokesman for the Border Patrol union told Fox News last week that 70% of Border Patrol agents are working administrative tasks related to the housing and relocation of illegal border crossers instead of securing the border. The National Guard should be able to provide assistance in the housing and caring of those apprehended, so the Border Patrol agents can focus their efforts on securing the border.

Perry's announcement will come as Pres. Obama is expected to meet with the presidents from the three countries that most Unaccompanied Alien Children are coming from - Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala.
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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: ZAR ()
Date: July 22, 2014 04:28PM

There's only about 90K of them over the whole fiscal year. There are over 450K churches in the US, there are over 25000 high schools and over 92000 elementary schools. Do you really think we can't handle 90K kids? I guess we're not as exceptional as you like to think.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: 90K Today 90 million Tommorow ()
Date: July 22, 2014 04:47PM

Stupid Stupid fuck, whens its going to stop?? We are past the breaking point.
Were are the jobs, housing, education, for our OWN KIDS.

Enough of this SOB Story! Send them back home, Dont let the unfit parents come in here , If there here throw them out as child abusers which they are.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: birds of a feather ()
Date: July 22, 2014 04:55PM

ZAR Wrote:
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> There's only about 90K of them over the whole
> fiscal year. There are over 450K churches in the
> US, there are over 25000 high schools and over
> 92000 elementary schools. Do you really think we
> can't handle 90K kids? I guess we're not as
> exceptional as you like to think.


Except they won't be spread evenly over that entire universe. They'll tend to go where there already are problems dealing with the added costs of large numbers of them.

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Re: Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia
Posted by: daRanger ()
Date: July 22, 2014 05:03PM

KDuYH Wrote:
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> More worries Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Delegate: Gangs, Drugs, 'Terror Elements' Can
> > Follow Illegal Kids to Virginia
> >
> > Del. Scott Lingamfelter hoping to prevent any
> > state-supported humanitarian effort to house
> > undocumented, unaccompanied children.
> >
> http://woodbridge-va.patch.com/groups/police-and-f
>
> >
> ire/p/delegate-gangs-drugs-terror-elements-can-fol
>
> > low-illegal-kids-to-virginia51315
> >
> > The debate over what, if anything, Virginia
> should
> > do to address a humanitarian crises on the U.S.
> > border with Mexico has reached a worst-case
> > scenario with fears of terrorism.
> >
> > Since late 2013, unaccompanied children have
> been
> > flooding over the southern border, stressing
> the
> > resources of the federal government and
> nonprofit
> > partners. The issue now is at the center of a
> > stalled debate over immigration reform in
> > Washington, D.C., and has raised tensions in
> > communities across the country.
> >
> > Federal agencies handling the undocumented
> > children have been reaching out to governors
> > across the country regarding potential
> temporary
> > housing.
> >
> >
> > In a letter to Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Del. Scott
> > Lingamfelter, R-Woodbridge and chair of the
> House
> > Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety,
> > warned of drug cartels and "terror elements"
> > taking advantage of any kindness offered to
> these
> > children.
> >
> > More: County Wants Answers on Refugee Children
> > Sheltered in Region
> >
> > "While we are both concerned about the safety
> of
> > the children who have entered the United States
> > illegally, we must also be concerned with the
> > possibility that criminal gangs and the drug
> > cartels will use the crisis to exploit and
> enlarge
> > their unlawful activities throughout the
> nation,"
> > Lingamfelter wrote. "Moreover, terror elements
> > could potentially use the confusion to enter
> U.S.
> > territory."
> >
> >
> > The delegate asked the governor to make no
> effort
> > to directly or indirectly allow these children
> to
> > enter the state.
> >
> > One Bristow nonprofit, Youth for Tomorrow, is
> > already providing emergency shelter for
> > undocumented minors. The program is operated
> > through an agreement with the U.S. Department
> of
> > Health and Human Services.
> >
> > An HHS spokesperson would not comment on the
> > number of undocumented children in Northern
> > Virginia, but told The Washington Post that,
> > “HHS pays for and provides all services for
> the
> > children through its network of grantees."
> >
> > The spokesperson also noted that children spend
> > less than 35 days on average at the shelters
> and
> > do not integrate into the local community.
>
>
> I call bull****, Bill. If those countries are so
> terrible, why aren't the parents fleeing with
> their children rather than handing their daughters
> birth control pills in case they get raped on the
> way? Why aren't the parents giving their children
> up for adoption to American, Canadian, or European
> couples? This is not about being refugees. These
> kids are being used as anchors in order to
> facilitate the transfer of entire family groups
> who plan on resettling permanently in America


You sir, are brilliant.

+1000

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Housing Illegal children- solution
Posted by: celebrate diversity ()
Date: July 22, 2014 05:40PM

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: U.S. Taxpayer ()
Date: July 22, 2014 05:53PM

Those fuckers Sharon Bulova and Gerry Connolly, who're always inviting illegals here, should put up 20-30 kids at their own homes. Damn hypocritical libs won't lift a finger to help illegals themselves, but are more than happy to stick it to everyone else.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: fact ()
Date: July 22, 2014 06:38PM

Most of these "children" are teens. Teen boys. Few came totally without adults. Some of the younger ones may have come with teen siblings. The problem is the numbers of others who are also coming. They are not stopping family groups. So, the numbers are already much, much larger than the reported children.

Most of these kids(teens)don't want to come to your house--they want to join other family members who are also here without documentation. Make them citizens and then the daisy chain begins which will bring innumerable people.

The problem is that along with all these people are the smugglers and druggers who are coming across with them--or easily get in because the attention of Border Patrol is diverted. People need to wake up.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Randal Flag ()
Date: July 22, 2014 06:48PM

ZAR Wrote:
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> There's only about 90K of them over the whole
> fiscal year. There are over 450K churches in the
> US, there are over 25000 high schools and over
> 92000 elementary schools. Do you really think we
> can't handle 90K kids? I guess we're not as
> exceptional as you like to think.


Fuck em. send them back. and start taxing the 450k churches.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: I call bullshit to infinity ()
Date: July 22, 2014 09:10PM

Listen you liberal bed wetting cocksuckers who post here; this bullshit about children wandering across Mexico all alone in the diapers is complete and total bullshit. Baby Mommy and Baby Daddy already fucking live in Annandale you stupid asses. They are paying organized criminals in Mexico to bus them across Mexico and take them to a fucking border patrol station where they know fucking well that we will ship them to their parents. Those Piece of Shit parents left them years ago, but now the little bundle of joy is useful to get fucking Obama's amnesty.
And the other category of little lost innocents are teen aged boys who are not far from 18 who will end up a fucking crime problem.

Ohhh I so can't stand your fucking stupidity you lousy ass wipe liberals... but now everyone else will be stuck paying the bill. Along with getting fucking Obama's Dream Act, there is no fucking way that the surge is ever not going to be on welfare.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: organized it may be ()
Date: July 22, 2014 10:50PM

I do think we should be concerned about the coyotes who are getting them through Mexico and across the border. Are the gangs suffering from a lack of other business and/or planning to get a kickback from underground labor?

BTW, did they ever arrest anyone in the murder of the female store employee in PWC from a few months back?

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Right in 2008 ()
Date: July 22, 2014 11:19PM

When you elect a community organizer as president . . . well . . . you get a community organizer as president.

Of course his asinine policies are having a destructive impact on the nation. The U.S. is completely getting played, and the president can do nothing but ask taxpayers to throw money at his cluelessness. We are all paying the costs, in many different ways.

Question: If you had a business and someone's resume said they had been working as a community organizer, would you hire them?

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Well??? ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:08AM

Is anyone protesting Youth for Tomorrow yet? If not, they should be. I noticed police setting up camp at the entrance recently.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: HDdNn ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:29AM

Man o man are you guys fools. And noone stops to question the billions of dollars in aid u.s ships to Israel for bombings? Or the fraud banksters wars that go on continuously in the middle east? Wake up people, these kids are not the problem. The problem is the ignorant old people commenting on these posts and the uneducated brainwashed youth. stop fighting the private banks wars stop supporting tyranny and these oligarchical machines. Rise up and educate your selves

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: It gets worse ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:40AM

It gets worse. If you own a small landscaping company and want to do right by your employees (born in the USA or not) you are outta luck when bidding for landscaping contracts 'cause you are bidding against competitors who exploit the hell out of their illegal immigrant workers.

What's this all about? Going back to the bad old days, 15 years ago, when the subcontractors would get 8 or 9 hours of pick-and-shovel work out of an illegal immigrant who got picked up in front of a 7-11 and tossed him a $20 at the end of the day and billed the labor out at $50 per hour.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Bank Wars Like Storage Wars? ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:52AM

HDdNn Wrote:
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> Man o man are you guys fools. And noone stops to
> question the billions of dollars in aid u.s ships
> to Israel for bombings? Or the fraud banksters
> wars that go on continuously in the middle east?
> Wake up people, these kids are not the problem.
> The problem is the ignorant old people commenting
> on these posts and the uneducated brainwashed
> youth. stop fighting the private banks wars stop
> supporting tyranny and these oligarchical
> machines. Rise up and educate your selves


Okay, so the world is fight "fraud banksters wars" and "private bank wars." So it is "supporting tyranny and and these oligarchical machines." To me, this sounds like the nonsense the liberal academics teach.

So could you precisely describe how Ukraine/Russia, Palestine/Israel, Syrian civil war, or Nigerian civil war are examples of "fraud banksters wars." Otherwise, I'm going to have to conclude that they are much more complex events with political, social, cultural, historical, religious, and economic roots.

To be honest, banks don't really scare me. If they are bad actors, individuals and businesses can just withdraw their money. And they have no guns.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: sherlock no-mes ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:56AM

Move the Katrina trailers to open federal land and build a reservation until they can be deported. That way everyone knows where they are, they can be centrally cared for, and they are easy to find when it is time to send them back.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: hWELk ()
Date: July 23, 2014 07:57AM

Bank Wars Like Storage Wars? Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> HDdNn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Man o man are you guys fools. And noone stops
> to
> > question the billions of dollars in aid u.s
> ships
> > to Israel for bombings? Or the fraud banksters
> > wars that go on continuously in the middle
> east?
> > Wake up people, these kids are not the problem.
> > The problem is the ignorant old people
> commenting
> > on these posts and the uneducated brainwashed
> > youth. stop fighting the private banks wars
> stop
> > supporting tyranny and these oligarchical
> > machines. Rise up and educate your selves
>
>
> Okay, so the world is fight "fraud banksters wars"
> and "private bank wars." So it is "supporting
> tyranny and and these oligarchical machines." To
> me, this sounds like the nonsense the liberal
> academics teach.
>
> So could you precisely describe how
> Ukraine/Russia, Palestine/Israel, Syrian civil
> war, or Nigerian civil war are examples of "fraud
> banksters wars." Otherwise, I'm going to have to
> conclude that they are much more complex events
> with political, social, cultural, historical,
> religious, and economic roots.
>
> To be honest, banks don't really scare me. If they
> are bad actors, individuals and businesses can
> just withdraw their money. And they have no guns.

Although his initial post was mostly ranting and raving, I think what he means is that the banks (most notably the world bank) are influential in these conflicts. While many are over religious differences, resources, etc. there is no doubt that the banks have ALOT of influence over these institutions and the politics of it. Bottom line...Money talks and values walk when the shit hits the fan.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: AMERICA IS DONE ()
Date: July 23, 2014 08:00AM

Folks, AMERICA IS DONE!!!! our politicians have fucked this country for good!

I for one will not be here when I retire. I have picked out 3 countries that are worth retiring to.

This country is done, NOW!!!! Just imagine what it will look like in 15 years!

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Which ones? ()
Date: July 23, 2014 08:01AM

AMERICA IS DONE Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Folks, AMERICA IS DONE!!!! our politicians have
> fucked this country for good!
>
> I for one will not be here when I retire. I have
> picked out 3 countries that are worth retiring
> to.

Which ones are you looking at?

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: AMERICA IS DONE ()
Date: July 23, 2014 08:15AM

^^^ Sorry, I'm not saying because I don't want others to start coming there just for retirement. There are rules to becoming a citizen in these 3 countries and it's not just taking a test to know their history.

I will say that the majority of the population is White. No nig nogs, no wetbacks, no boopity boopity indians, no towel head pedos, etc etc.

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How will Virginians respond?
Posted by: How will Virginians respond? ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:58AM

How will Virginians respond?
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/article/20140722/OPINION/140729970/1065/how-will-virginians-respond&template=fairfaxTimes

How is Virginia preparing to receive immigrants who have crossed our national southern border illegally? This is the question I have asked officials at the Dranesville District, Fairfax County, State and Federal levels for the last two weeks. The answer? No one knows, or admits to knowing.

Since the federal government is coordinating resettlement efforts, I called first to the Department of Health and Human Resources’ Office of Refugee Resettlement (which handles refugees, asylees and other displaced persons). I asked what sites in Virginia the department had designated. The spokeswoman told me she would give me the list the next day. But the next day, she told me there was no such list.

FEMA could/would not tell me what Virginia locations they had designated.

Neither the Virginia state refugee coordinator (now the Office of Newcomer Services) nor the refugee health coordinator (now the Newcomer Health Program Coordinator) knew – or admitted to knowing – anything about what plans the federal government has to house illegal immigrants in Virginia. And they said they had not even spoken to legislators about the situation! Likewise, the office of the Secretary of Virginia’s Department of Health and Human Resources had no information.

Turning to Capitol Hill, the offices of Senators Warner and Kaine, and the office of Representative Wolf, had no knowledge of what federal agencies might be planning for Virginia, nor could the staff tell me what, specifically, the legislators were going to do about the pending arrival of untold numbers of illegal immigrants into our state.

Officials at our Dranesville District also did not know what the federal government plans to do, and had not asked Virginia state officials what they knew or were preparing for. Dranesville is waiting for a report from the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors before they can know what to do. And the Fairfax Board staff tells me to wait for the report, whenever it’s ready.

There is a pattern here. No one from the federal level on down to the local district level seems to know what’s going on, or admits to knowing.

In the meantime, we read press reports that citizens in Lawrenceville, Virginia (population 1400) turned away a federal attempt to place 500 illegal immigrants in their economically depressed town. And there is another report that a facility in Prince William County already is housing illegal youth at their location, but no one at that organization is talking with the press (nor to me when I contacted them).

The ramifications of illegal immigration in our area are numerous: local and state budgets must prepare to assume responsibility when federal money dries up, and school classrooms and local health clinics will be impacted. What about housing? Social services? Crime rates (known gangs are coming across the border)? By what authority does the federal government deposit – without warning -- unknown numbers of illegal immigrants into states, which ultimately will be responsible for the financial cost?

Most importantly: We are supposed to be a Nation of Laws; when “illegal” trumps “legal”, civil society crumbles.

For a long time now, the American public has been told we need “immigration reform” so people can come out of the shadows. It seems to me that our government’s immigration policies need to come out of the shadows first.

Catharine Trauernicht, McLean

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: 6k3Kd ()
Date: July 23, 2014 11:17AM

Even more simple - Rt 1 restaurants and retail need more minimum wage unskilled labor. Upscale people need more poor people to clean their homes, mow their lawns, care for their brats.

Any one who does NOT think this was pre-planned should consider how much $$$ has been poured into the CIA, NSA, Pentagon, and State Department over the past decade.

Look who's been in charge - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State John Kerry.

Speaking of Hillary, she needs the Latino vote in 2016, right?

The media go right along. Like the wealthy guy who owns Inside Nova, lives in Middleburg, and hangs out with the rich and famous. How many servants does he have? Think he and his VIP amigos clean their own McMansions?

Could be worse in PW...the Latino Supervisor and Latina School Board Member in Arlington made a secret deal to bring thousands of kids from Central America to Arlington. The guy who is the Editor of Inside Nova in Arlington knows all about it, but of course HE is on the board of directors of the Chamber of Commerce and of course the one thing all the restaurants in Arlington need is more unskilled labor.

So the VIPs are telling the sheeple in Dale City, Lake Ridge, etc. to suck it up.

Just like during the last big wave of immigration from Central America, ten years ago.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: jGT3N ()
Date: July 23, 2014 11:37AM

This article is wrong. They are NOT immigrant children. They are ILLEGAL aliens and should be handled as such. But Obama has no record for our laws or our constitution. He should be impeached along with Holder.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Mexico Would be a Good Place ()
Date: July 23, 2014 09:45PM

Leave.. Now Pretty Please.

No wonder the white Flag of Surrender was flying over the Brooklyn Bridge.

Thanks for NOTHING OBAMA. You Should Be Impeached!

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Kimura ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:14PM

What are you on about? Plenty of people, myself included, think the US is crazy for supporting Israel and wish we'd cut ties. Same goes for bailing out the douchebags on Wall Street, financing the ridiculous wars, etc. We're also opposed to letting non-US citizens into the country indefinitely and footing the bill for their expenses. It's not an either/or thing.

HDdNn Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Man o man are you guys fools. And noone stops to
> question the billions of dollars in aid u.s ships
> to Israel for bombings? Or the fraud banksters
> wars that go on continuously in the middle east?
> Wake up people, these kids are not the problem.
> The problem is the ignorant old people commenting
> on these posts and the uneducated brainwashed
> youth. stop fighting the private banks wars stop
> supporting tyranny and these oligarchical
> machines. Rise up and educate your selves

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: newgatedenizen ()
Date: July 23, 2014 10:50PM

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/07/20/unaccompanied-alien-children-transfers-to-your-community-uac-research-where-are-the-illegal-aliens-and-unaccompanied-alien-minors-being-placed/

http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2014/07/20/our-local-government-on-illegal-aliens-complicit-or-stupid/

Every month now, the Office of Refugee Resettlement is penning yet another multi-million dollar contract to shove more illegal aliens into Brostow, Virginia. It costs $103,934 to detain one juvenile illegal alien per year? In 2013 it only cost on average $26,641 per year to incarcerate an adult in a state prison. Heck, it would be cheaper to send these juveniles to Harvard, where the annual tuition only amounts to $43,938.

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Our Local Government On Illegal Aliens: Complicit or Stupid?
Posted by: yKP4W ()
Date: July 25, 2014 07:25PM

Our Local Government On Illegal Aliens: Complicit or Stupid?
http://www.bvbl.net/index.php/2014/07/20/our-local-government-on-illegal-aliens-complicit-or-stupid/

Coles District Supervisor Marty Nohe is quite eager to assuage the concerns of county residents over the transformation of Youth For Tomorrow into a detention center for juvenile illegal aliens. Just days after the Board of Supervisors promised they’d get to the bottom of things, Nohe made sure to forward talking points from YFT’s executive Director and a spokesman for the federal government’s Office of Refugee Resettlement that were clearly intended to lull citizen outrage. There’s a little problem with acting like the public relations arm of the Obama administration, though: at best you end up with the credibility of Jay Carney.

YFT and the Office of Refugee Resettlement really want you to know that only 80 illegal aliens are housed at YFT now (out of their permitted residential capacity of 180) and they aren’t really a concern at all. They don’t pose a problem, and despite evidence to the contrary none of these illegal aliens are “escaping” (their words) the facility requiring a manhunt from the Prince William County Police Department to search them out among residential neighborhoods and return them to confinement. They don’t pose a threat to public health or safety (again, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding) nor are they imposing a burden on the county schools (and yet again, evidence to the contrary notwithstanding). Just go back to sleep and trust your government to do what’s in your best interests, folks.

Yeah, right. Just take a look at these four federal grants to Youth For Tomorrow and then tell me to go to back to sleep:

Award Number: 90ZU0113
DATA FY: 2014
Recipient: Youth For Tomorrow
Budget Year of Support: 1
Award Code: 01
Action Issue Date: 12-02-2013
OPDIV: ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES (ACF)
Program Office: OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT (ORR)
Amount This Action: $ 1,614,938

Award Number: 90ZU0113
DATA FY: 2014
Recipient: Youth For Tomorrow
Budget Year of Support: 1
Award Code: 02
Action Issue Date: 03-07-2014
OPDIV: ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES (ACF)
Program Office: OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT (ORR)
Amount This Action: $ 3,229,876

Award Number: 90ZU0113
DATA FY: 2014
Recipient: Youth For Tomorrow
Budget Year of Support: 1
Award Code: 03
Action Issue Date: 06-20-2014
OPDIV: ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES (ACF)
Program Office: OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT (ORR)
Amount This Action: $ 1,854,951

Award Number: 90ZU0113
DATA FY: 2014
Recipient: Youth For Tomorrow
Budget Year of Support: 1
Award Code: 04
Action Issue Date: 07-11-2014
OPDIV: ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES (ACF)
Program Office: OFFICE OF REFUGEE RESETTLEMENT (ORR)
Amount This Action: $ 1,614,937

TOTAL $ 8,314,702

Every month now, the Office of Refugee Resettlement is penning yet another multi-million dollar contract to shove more illegal aliens into Brostow, Virginia. It costs $103,934 to detain one juvenile illegal alien per year? In 2013 it only cost on average $26,641 per year to incarcerate an adult in a state prison. Heck, it would be cheaper to send these juveniles to Harvard, where the annual tuition only amounts to $43,938. I am fully aware of the shocking amount of waste, fraud and abuse that happens in the federal government, but this is beyond ridiculous.

No, despite the public affairs effort by Marty Nohe, it’s rather obvious to anyone that while we might only(?) have 80 illegal aliens detained at what used to be a local charity devoted to serving local at-risk youth now, there’s a huge expansion underway at the facility that Youth For Tomorrow and the federal government doesn’t want you to know about. For Marty Nohe to uncritically start peddling this ridiculous tripe that serves the interest of the big-money interests behind Youth For Tomorrow instead of his own constituents either suggests a stunning level of utter incompetence or a rather disturbing complicity within this scheme to defraud county taxpayers.

We already know that Supervisor Frank Principi personally profits from increasing the number of illegal aliens warehoused by the federal government in the county, but is it possible that Marty Nohe does as well?

UPDATE: During Fiscal 2013 Contracts from HHS/Office of Refugee Resettlement amounted to $1,227,611. The increase from 2013 to 2014 was 677%.

In 2012 Youth For Tomorrow reported an operating revenue of $6,985,845 on their Form 990, evidence that detaining juvenile illegal aliens comprises a majority of the operations that Youth For Tomorrow is involved in. Surely such a fundamental shift in the nature of the operation they’re running in Bristow that is utterly inconsistent with the nature of the operation that was given a Special Use Permit along with multiple rezonings and favorable Comprehensive Plan Amendments as late as 2011. Rezoning request #PLN2011-00208 and Special Use Permit #PLN2011-00209 were filed while YFT was applying for the federal grants in question and not disclosed in those applications, making the requests for those favorable actions fraudulent, perhaps in a criminal way.

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Re: Our Local Government On Illegal Aliens: Complicit or Stupid?
Posted by: Where are the Libs? ()
Date: July 25, 2014 07:40PM

All the liberals who want to bring in these aliens surely have volunteered to host the kids and their families within their own homes, yes? Otherwise they'd be nothing but a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: dNcYh ()
Date: July 25, 2014 08:56PM

This is getting good.

A lot of my devoted Democrat friends are hiding their faces in shame at the courthouse as they admit that Zero-Bama is just a feckless piece of horse shit.

And, Blacks aren't especially happy that a huge wave of illegal central-americans are coming in and literally cutting in line for the welfare check.

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Re: Housing Illegal Children: If Not Here, Where?
Posted by: Impeach Obama NOW ()
Date: July 25, 2014 09:24PM

dNcYh Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> This is getting good.
>
> A lot of my devoted Democrat friends are hiding
> their faces in shame at the courthouse as they
> admit that Zero-Bama is just a feckless piece of
> horse shit.
>
> And, Blacks aren't especially happy that a huge
> wave of illegal central-americans are coming in
> and literally cutting in line for the welfare
> check.


Yeah... that is a point. Democrat Machine politicians have a new love... Brown people. I wonder how that will sit with blacks. It will be good fun also when all the beaners start voting for their own instead of cock suckers like Obama, Reid, Pelosi Schumer... Hell in a short while they might have significant enough numbers to drive blacks out of leadership positions in the District of Corruption...

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